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Does the Nokia Lumia 800 contain NFC? It’s complicated.

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A new video purporedly shows limited NFC functionality on the Lumia 800

A video has appeared today (which we have been unable to verify for legitimacy) that reportedly shows a Nokia Lumia 800 making brief near-field communication (NFC) contact with a Nokia Play 360 (which supports NFC pairing). The phenomenon happens when toggling WiFi on and off, suggesting the powering of the NFC is connected somehow to WiFi.

The question naturally presents itself: does the Nokia Lumia 800 in fact support NFC? And will it get an update to enable this if so? The answer is a bit messy but we’ll just be brief here and say “no” and “no”.

As to the first “no” it has to be qualified. We’ve heard that some early batches of the Lumia 800 do have NFC hardware on board but it is not something Nokia is planning to utilize. The chipset used on the Lumia 800 is the Qualcomm Snapdragon S2 (MSM8255T) which does not have NFC built in (though the MSM8930 does). Presumably Nokia could have added a secondary NXP chipset for NFC if that were the case for the video above. A physical teardown of the Lumia 800 by TechRepublic also did not reveal any NFC functionality nor did a later breakdown of the Lumia 900.

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That should answer the question if Nokia would deliver an update to enable this feature—no since barely any devices have it (our does not seem to have this configuration).

So why did Nokia not put in NFC? There are probably a few reasons, including pricing point, Microsoft did not have support yet for it and more importantly, NFC is still in its infancy for mass-adoption. 

And why do a very few evidently have NFC-something? Nokia may have been exploring it early on or they may have recycled some hardware from their other devices—after all, Nokia does make devices with NFC on board like the N9 which the Lumia 800 borrows heavily from in terms of design.

Clearly though some OEMs besides Nokia have been playing with NFC in Windows Phone 7.5—see our mini-review of LG’s unreleased ‘Fantasy’ phone with NFC support. And Nokia of course does have the Lumia 610 with NFC which is making the rounds too. But in the end, if you want proper NFC support you’re going to have to wait for Windows Phone 8 devices.

Source: PocketPC.Ch; Thanks, Yves, for the tip 

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Does the Nokia Lumia 800 contain NFC? It’s complicated.

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"So why did Nokia not put in NFC? There are probably a few reasons, including pricing point, Microsoft did not have support yet for it and more importantly, NFC is still in its infancy for mass-adoption. "

 

Plus they planned to make it obsolete soon after launch.

Bitter about what? I do have a lumia but it was a freebie so it's not like it cost me anything. 

Dont say it cgk1 or you will be booed by a dozen of excited teenagers saying theyre happy their new Lumia phones are going to become obsolete within weeks/months...

Well Nokia is genius so I support them and will use there genius phones till they fall of the map witch I hope the never do cuz it would sux seeing even more stupid iPhones and androids

Haha he's alright. I just imagine he's like that red-hair chick on American Pie "and this one time at band-camp this thing happened and then this other thing and then we got so wasted and then this other time some other stuff happened and then more stuff happened and then we all had sex with each other"

"We’ve heard that some early batches of the Lumia 800 do have NFC hardware on board but it is not something Nokia is planning to utilize." Do you have a credible source for that one? WMPoweruser is not a source. They take every anonymous hint and make it an official article. It makes no sense to include a hardware dependant feature in "some early batches".

It does when they are stealing the design from one of their other phones.  If they basically take the N9 and make it an 800, they can get it out to the market ASAP...then, since they are manufacturing something for the inital push, they can rework the design to put out batches two and three for cheaper.  Look at the OG Samsung Focus, there was a lot of changes between Rev1.3 to Rev1.4, I don't know specific examples but there were cases when a 1.4 phone couldn't do what a 1.3 could.

You can see in the teardowns that the internals are quite different. I think it has something to do with the Speaker waiting for a Bluetooth signal...

if Nokia is genius why do they phones sell so slowly? Is it a conspiracy? People not happy to buy practically non-upgreadable phones? BTW: I also love pizza =)

"People not happy to buy practically non-upgreadable phones" and that is true in my opinion the biggest mistake nokia is cooperative with Microsoft and using them system they should use android serwis gsm lot's of people don't like windows mobile because is non functionally