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Nokia Lumia 825 to boast a 5-inch display and quad-core support? It's plausible.

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Nokia has announced and launched the Lumia 625, a new Windows Phone that packs the largest display found on any Nokia Windows Phone. So following on from that mid-range device, rumours have begun circling around that the manufacturer will be looking at releasing a Lumia 825, which is said to be raising the bar by supporting quad-core and a 5.2-inch display. Now, before we begin, take this rumour with a pinch of salt, folks.

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GDR3 is on the horizon and will be with us after we get the current wave of updates pushed to consumers. Both quad-core and full HD support are believed to be included, but this device is not going to be 1080p. With a 720p 5.2-inch screen, this would be why the rumoured handset could be the Lumia 825, being mid-range and all. Also, as well as the 720p resolution, the quad-core is said to be the Snapdragon 400, possibly clocked at 1.2GHz. 

What the Lumia 825 could achieve is a premium device at an affordable price point. Emerging markets typically have to deal with low-end specifications to match the cheap price tags, but Nokia could be attempting to raise the bar, continuing efforts that have given us the Lumia 520. It would be exciting to see not only a large Lumia 625, but also a massive mid-range option too.

The beauty of this rumour is that a lot can change between now and when GDR3 is both announced and released. We could well be looking at a late 2013 / early 2014 launch if such a Windows Phone is to be produced by Nokia. Consumers are also looking forward to a "phablet" to be released, but a Lumia 825 (should one ever see the light of day) would indeed be warmly received.

Source: Unwired View, via: dospy; Thanks, SachinJagtap, for the tip!

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Nokia Lumia 825 to boast a 5-inch display and quad-core support? It's plausible.

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Mockup fail, look at the four circles on the bottom of the upper layer, Crapdroid style. 
Otherwise, nice specs, would love to see them become reality. 

That's a promo image from Qualcomm they photoshopped a WP start screen over. I don't think they expected anyone to think it was actually a mockup

Hopefully they wait until they can support 1080p. Even though the difference between 720 and 1080 is minimal to the eye, people seem to clamor to this like it's a deal breaker.

You're wrong. I have a nokia 928 and have no problem seeing the pixels on it. Its a 4.5" screen and 720p. The pixels are definately smaller than my old HTC Arrive, but I can still see them. That means that at 5" 1080p is a requirement or else the pixels will probably be just as big as the HTC Arrive.

well its not always about quality but quantity as well...larger resolution means more space to display stuff....like another row of icons and so on....people with good enough eye sight can make use of the extra info on the screen...many others might just go to settings and make everything bigger and for these people, yes, it shouldn't matter whether its 720p or 1080p.

Impossible? I'm blessed (or cursed) with the ability to see the jaggies on my 920, what makes you think I couldn't see the difference between 720p and 1080p on a larger screen?

I'm not going to say its impossible, but I'm mostly with you.  I'm sure plenty of people will say, or at least claim, they can tell the difference.  But for me, the difference from 480p to 720p is so much more perceptible than the difference from 720p to 1080p.  But as another commentor said, release the 825 as 720p to cut costs, but make a premium 940 or whatever with 1080p for the spec nerds.

Much of those claims can either be a) looking at the screen from a very small distance, b) seeing jackies in games (which are usually rendered at 480p at best), or c) they actually have a very good eye sight. The fact still stands that most people will not notice a difference between 720p and 1080p from about 30cm away from the eye.

It must also make me any coffee drink (hot or iced) I desire without even inputting said request or voicing it aloud. It shall also allow me the ability to fly at sub-sonic speeds. Otherwise, it's crap and I'm going to Android, cuz they make that kind of stuff 10 years ago already good happy yes. Or so I read from the phandroids. :)

Wouldn't a large screen plus the quad kill battery life? The opposite of what's good for emerging markets? I'd just as soon see them give it a built-in solar charger or something actually practical.

Dude, we do have energy, just like you. Cheaper phones are atractive in emerging markets because they are cheap! Here in brazil we have to pay so much tax, that the Lumia 820 would cost three times what you pay for your 920.

Sorry, didn't mean to offend. However, everytime I read about emerging markets, I read about how important battery life is. Granted, is Brazil considered "emerging?"

Regardless, i still think that solar charging would be useful, regardless of market. Extend the battery life by supplementing its stand-by life, and have something even when you don't have a charger handy... Not everyone has multiple chargers with them, or forget to bring one, like my mother.

This is what happens when you have big socialist governments. I paid like 420 bucks for my Lumia 925. The 1020 that came out isnt really any better except for the camera.
 
I think the phone companies should NOT allow exclusive deal on carriers. I think Nokia should make the phones work on all carriers or varients that do. This would force the carriers to compete on the actual service they offer.
I am with T-Mobile and for an unlimited 4G/LTE (no data caps) and unlimited talk/text coast to coast plan they are the best 70 bucks a month for everything. Then I add in my discount through my employer LOL...

One of the things driving larger devices is actually battery life. Bigger screen = more space for battery, and disproporationately so given that all the other internals stay the same size. Try fitting a big enough battery to power a Snapdragon 800 all day in a 3.5" phone.

Would love to see Nokia do a 5 in phone display, quad core with 1080p when the OS can support that resolution. I have an upgrade next February. Hopefully by then the next wave of Flagship phones are out.

I don't understand why they would make a mid-tier phablet? I understand the 1020 just came out, but if they are to compete they better make this have top specs.

You may not understand it, but from where I sit (emerging market), it's completely easy to understand.

It does make everything look "prettier", but it shouldn't be a factor in deciding which phone you get.

I compared the 920 to the S4 and couldn't see the difference. However, when I went to the same websites, my 920 had better image quality. I think that is because the higher res screen makes the low res images on website look even worse. The website pictures on the S4 look blurry while the 920 look fine.

I would love to see a Nokia with a 5 inch display, quad core with 1080p super amoled display, 64gb internal with no external memory card, 41mp camera, 8mm thick and 3500mh battery.

I don't like amoled. I have a nokia 928 and I see the checkerboard effect all the time and it drives me nuts. I prefer my pixels to be nice crisp squares. Hopefully 1080p @ 5" it won't be as important, but I think it will be. Also the occasional image ghosting is horrible. Fortunately its not permanent yet, but from what I've heard about OLED it will be. LCD is better.

There are AMOLED panels which aren't PenTile. My Galaxy Note 2 has a 720p RGB 5.5" screen. The Galaxy S3 and S4 have PenTile screens.
 
There is no reason for the 928 and 1020 to have PenTile screens. Nokia just cheaped out on the screen. They have 4.5" 720p RGB AMOLED screens available, you just have to pay a few bucks more for them. 

I hope it is not a quad core from the snapdragon 400 series. That would make it the slowest WP8 device to date. If true, it would represent a sell out to the ignorant tech geek crowd... trading actual performance for "better" specs on paper.

Surprise! It does have the Snapdragon 400. Guess what, the HTC 8XT and Samsung ATIV S Neo both use the Dual Core Snapdragon 400 (Krait 300 though instead of Cortex A7 like in the quad core versions of the S400)

If they could stop producting dinner trays...that'd be great.

That said, this is so fake, it hurts.

While a device like this could very well be in development, it wouldn't be called 825. The X25-series is just a small upgrade that completes the lineup of the X20-series. This sounds more like a 930 to me.

I pray that Nokia never makes an 8X0 phone with a screen that large.

I'm waiting for a Galaxy S4 sized Lumia 930 with a 5-5.2' screen, quad core, 12MP OIS PureView camera.

With WP getting ready with Quad core and 1080p. Would future plans and or updates effect users on 920/1020 owners? reason i ask is im looking to get the 1020 but currently using a used 920. But i dont wnat to use my upgrade on hardware that would not be "compatible", ie wp 7.8 vs wp8 type of things

I don't think they are looking to redo the whole mobile OS again. The WP8 kernel is based on the Windows 8/RT kernel. They are all about the unified systems going forward now.

Multiple screen resolutions isn't an issue. WP8 already supports 3 resolutions at three different scale factors. What's a 4th resolution and 4th scale factor? The new resolution (1080p) will be the same aspect ratio as an existing (720p) so unupdated apps will work just like they do on a 720p screen, though any bitmaps might get a little blurry until they get updated. 

Next month we should know the new positioning of the 820 and 920 replacements for the Holiday season. I expect the specs will match the US Galaxy 4.

I've long since lost track of what any of the numbers under the Lumia line are supposed to represent. I thought the 8-series was high-end but smaller than the 9-series phones. So now the 825 is going to be the bigger phone even though it's mid-range. Isn't the 720 the mid-range model? I thought the 620 was also mid-range, but I guess it can't be if it's got the same specs as the entry-level 520. But then the 625 got the biggest screen of the entire lineup and a faster CPU than the 720. But just to confuse you it's still running the same resolution as the 820.

On top of it all, unless the information is all wrong, the 825 comes with a CPU that offers lower performance than the 820. The Adreno 305 is a successor to the 205, not the 225. It's a chipset with battery life, not graphics performance, in mind and posted benchmarks reflect that. But apparently it's being paired to a larger screen? Will it run at the same resolution? It's going to be interesting to see people replace their 820 and encounter worse gaming performance. Nokia couldn't have decided that WP gaming is a lost cause, could they?

+825 I am just as stymied. The numbering scheme is more or less random at this point:-) so what would the 725s specs be?
And please Nokia please, make a phone under 4.5" that is feature rich. I refuse to hold dinner plates up to my ear in public!

If the specs for the next iteration of the 8xx as stated in the article come about, it probably means the next iteration of the 920/925/928 series will also come with bigger screens and an even higher specs than  those stated in the article for the 8xx. Which could also mean that when the next iteration of the 7xx comes,it will also come in bigger screen than the present 720, higher specs, but lower than those of 825 in the article.

If the 825 will be 5.2 inches, will the next 9xx be that size or bigger? I hope not.... 4.5 is a pretty good size for me.

4.5 is to miniscule for me. I'd like to use my 920 more but the screen is just too damn small. Hopefully they have high end options available at multiple sizes, but if they're only going to go for one make it 5"+

Each company should only make 3 phones and be the best at that......for Nokia it should be 520, 925,and 1020 the rest confuses the consumers....

There's a hole between the 925 and 520. It makes great sense for Nokia's strategy in emerging markets to hit different price points. I'm glad you're not Elop, or you'd have driven the company down to the ground already. The reason Samsung is so successful is because they hit all segments of the market, from high-end to the very low, crappy end of Droiddom.

I'd give the rum-o-meter an even lower rating. Not sure if you can read Chinese or not, but the source dospy had been making up fake stories about Nokia and Windows Phone numerous times. Further, in the source article (in Chinese) it actually says "according to overseas media, ...." without linking to what these source mediums are (and I've searched and there is none).

The story might be fake but the general idea of bigger phones with higher specs is just in the horizon for WP8 so those things are coming. After all, the WP8 OS is still evolving and getting better. Things may not happen exactly as in the rumor, but they are coming.

This Christmas might be taxing on my wallet. XBox One, Nokia Phablet & 2nd Gen Surface Tablet. Factor in XBox One Games and I'm looking at $1000 easy. Good Times.

I truly hope this is a rumor if this is not a flagship device. How are we to differentiate if 9XX was and the 1020 is. Nokia what's the deal?

Fake or not, I truly hope the rumor is true because it could mean only one thing: The flagship device would come with even better specs than those in the story for the 825! I'm stoked!

If this is true, it could be a good competitor for the iPhone 5C. I think Nokia should price it below $350 if this device will be released.

Yes, with GDR3 coming, I'm sure bigger phones with quad-cores and Full HD screens are just around the corner!

I expect 825 (and maybe 525) to be announced in September/October, why would a 5" inch Lumia be far away ? And we could argue that 625 is a solid mid range device with that price point, I think a small price drop would be nice for 625, 720 if they want to offer a tempting affordable alternative.

well you can't consider 82x as mid range phones :-/ 23,000 Rs is too much to be called as affordable

I hope this is not true. I don't really like phones over 5' inches. They just get to big and weird to hold in the hand. Hope the next flagship is 4.7 - 5'. Maybe 4.5 for the mid-range.

Yeah, I don't understand them exactly either. It's to big to keep it comfortably in your pocket and to call it a phone but at the same time it's to small to call it a tablet.

Weren't we told that there already was a lumia 825, which was simply boring and not available. It was supposedly the one used to make the wall of WPs at some event.

I find the rumor weird
 
Just odd that rumors about a midrange deviced came out...usually the first rumor about a next-gen smartphone is usually  about the flagship device.