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Nokia, Microsoft have been in talks with RIM

Ballmer!

Hot on the heels of that analyst calling for RIM to adopt Windows Phone OS comes this report from the Wall Street Journal which claims that Nokia and Microsoft considered making a joint bid for RIM in recent months. Nothing of course is actually in the works nor are there any impending announcements, but reportedly Microsoft and Nokia regularly meet with RIM to discuss industry and partnerships--which shouldn't be to much of a surprise. But now that reports are swirling that both companies are at least considering such a bid is certainly enticing.

The WSJ suggests that Co-Chief Executive Jim Balsillie is not seriously considering a bid until the company sees how their new OS, not expected till late 2012, performs on the market. Presumably if the OS does well, no sale. But if the company continues to sink in market share, running into the arms of a Microsoft/Nokia partnership could be an emergency 'Plan B'.

So for now, it looks like RIM will try their hand at Blackberry 10 but they appear to be lining up the life-boats in case it all goes south. Certainly having Microsoft-Nokia on the sidelines could only mean good things for Windows Phone. But for now, we wait. As an interesting side note, Amazon reportedly attempted to get talks started on a take-over of RIM but was rejected. Even more interesting of a side note? We found a story here on WPCentral from January 2009 which said if RIM's stock drops low enough, Microsoft will "snap them up". In other words, this may not be that new.

Source Wall Street Journal

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Nokia, Microsoft have been in talks with RIM

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interesting.  they could come up with DVP like phones. i  love dvp, and sadly more and more phones are shying away from physica keyboards.

Hmm... I have the feeling that if Microsoft and Nokia were to make a joint bid they'd probably split the company in two; hardware for Nokia and software for Microsoft. Interesting aspect. Oh and Windows Phone would definitely be a power house that would be unignorable. Well, theoretically that is obvious since there would only be three smartphone platforms left. When anybody goes into a store and asks for anything other than Android or iPhone then the only alternative would be for them to say Windows Phone. I'm pretty sure this hypothetical situation is a long-shot but it'd be interesting if that's the direction the mobile market really went.

This would make a mobile powerhouse. and more social access for mobile devices. With BBM messaging, skype hopefully comming soon and msn on there already this would be the platform to be on.

It could be a huge hit to WP if Samsung or HTC took over licensing or BB because they may back off what little they do for WP now and since those are our only choices in the US until Nokia hits that could be a problem.

This would be the dumbest idea. Smart thing for Blackberry to do is to move to Android and figure out a way to integrate the two together, mixing their business software with Android as the backdrop. As far as MSFT/Nokia, it would be buying s sinking ship. The only thing is to maybe buy up all their patents and use some of them in their own software. the rest if they want to, license the patents/technology out to other companies and make money that way. i can see how they can integrate BBM into their own client and maybe a few other features, more corporate back-end stuff for their services. Not sure if Blackberry OS will do well considering it maybe dead on arrival. everyone moved on to either iOS or Droid, or even WP. who wants to wait another year for the new version to come out? Playbook was a disaster, even their latest devices can not hold up to the other companies. MSFT did this very thing, delayed an OS that needed to be out of the market. Don't get me wrong, i like WP but they need to move much quicker; and its costing them. Blackberry has seen its days in the sun and i believe they will not be around within the next few yrs.

not too sure if BB10 has any chances of survival, but BlackBerry is too classy a brand/device to sport Android. WP7 all the way...!!

I don't see RIM using Android successfully on their BlackBerry Devices. The secretive security aspects of RIM don't align with Android's "openness".

I think the Blackberry model is much more in line with the MS/Nokia.

If RIM goes to Android then most corporate/executive users will suffer from a heart attack after they face the punk Android interfase while remaining hands tied without knowing how to tweak it to really make them theirs. I think a move to WP7 will be smoother and less traumatic for them. Office+skype out of the box is a big plus.

Not sure i'd want to see all consumer WP's bottlenecked at/by BIS servers. The actual device encryption options (keeping in mind BlackBerry makes the only FIPS, sec7, etc approved devices) combined with their legendary IT extensibility would certainly be beneficial things to add to the WP's arsenal. Just keep the battery pulls and 2" screens away thanks :)

The big stumbling block for a BB move to Windows Phone is that WP went very consumer happy and as a result a LOT of needed enterprise features are missing. This is a big reason that the platform is basically dead in corporate environments.
To make this work they would need to do some really base level re-engineering of the OS to get the security and remote management capabilities up to par. WP email is already better than BlackBerry and adding BBM is just adding a protocol to WPs communications stack.

I was wondering why Microsoft would hold Nokia's hand as they walked to the negotiating table. In addition to gaining some much-needed security and user-friendly management features for Windows Phone 7.5 like Desktop Manager (to which Zune doesn't hold a candle) the biggest gain for them would be in the tablet market. Nokia is the only mobile player yet to release a tablet. Considering their partnership with MS on the software front, they could combine the best features of QNX 2.0 and Windows 8 mobile to release a tablet that hits the ground running.

Because Microsoft is not in the hardware manufacturing business (except for Xbox) they could use all of BlackBerry's strengths in hardware and software to jump into 3rd place from a distant fourth.