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Rumor: Windows Phone Tango and Apollo to finally offer new screen resolutions

File this under rumor, but one that makes sense. Back in the day, we heard about three chassis requirements for Windows Phone. And while Chassis 1 (800x480 screen, 1GHz CPU, 256MB RAM etc.) has come to fruition, Chassis 2 and 3 have not been seen. When we asked Andy Lees back in February, it was clear that Chassis 1 was the focus:

"We haven't announced any details on when that form factor is coming out. We are seeing is more interest in larger screens as opposed to smaller screens...but that doesn't mean we're not going to do it but we haven't announced anything yet."

Now MS nerd, who often gets some good information, has leaked some supposed details. For one, adding Qualcomm's Scorpion CPU (Cortex A8), gyroscope and front facing camera constitutes Chassis 1.5. Chassis 2, long thought to be the front-qwerty/BlackBerry style device, will reportedly offer 480x320 resolution in the "Tango" release as well as LTE support, sometime in early 2012. Finally, Chassis 3 will add dual core CPUs as well as 1280x720 resolution, but not until Windows Phone 8 aka "Apollo" sometime in late 2012.

  • Chassis 1.5 ("Mango") - Scorpion CPU, front-facing camera, gyroscope
  • Chassis 2 ("Tango") - 480x320 BlackBerry style design, LTE support
  • Chassis 3 ("Apollo") - 1280x720 resolution, dual core CPUs

And Lees recently spoke about LTE and dual core support, so clearly they are on the roadmap--the only remaining question was when, which this rumor seems to answer. Finally, MS nerd writes "Tegra & OMAP are targeted for #Win9" which seems to imply that Windows Phone and Windows OS finally merge in Windows 9.

Take all of this with a grain of salt of course, but there's nothing there that is exactly too crazy to be unbelievable at this point.

Source: @MS_nerd 1, 2

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Rumor: Windows Phone Tango and Apollo to finally offer new screen resolutions

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No, Microsoft is waiting for stronger batteries before they had such a high screen resolution because with a higher resolution the processor is constantly working harder and draining the battery... one reason ive seen so many comments about "too short battery life" on the iphone 4 though im not sure about iphone 4s

I think that chassis 2 is a complete wast of time and will have very little if any market appeal. There is no need to wast money and time on such a silly form factor. It would basically be a BB. Even BB is trying to get into the bar form with larger screens. I just don't want to see what happened to HP happen to WP. HP went off making phones that people didn't want...Pre Plus, Pre2, Veer, and then finally the Pre3, which would have been GREAT, but it never got a chance to see daylight. Don't make the same mistake. Just hit a home-run on the first try. WP is still young and doesn't have the foundation to experiment. Its an unnecessary risk and I know it will flop. The chassis 2 will fall flat on its face...if produced...and sold in the US. Selling the chassis 2 over seas is a completely different story.

The entire Tango update is meant mainly for emerging markets, not the United States. The more variety the better. Microsoft needs to flood the market with everything from high end to low end phones if they want to compete globally.

Tons of teenagers in UK who snap all **** BB phones will disagree with you - there is a huge market for cheaper budget smartphones with smaller screen. I doubt that even in US everyone can afford mid-level or hi-end smartphones.

I beg to differ on your chassis 2 comment. I would dump my Quantum in a minute for something that is like my old Moto Q9h.. The HTC mock-up looks pretty darn good. How do you know what people want? Maybe a BB user might want something like his BB but with WP7 on it....And what is the matter with variety?

If anyone thinks that a BB is an efficient and top end OS then you clearly have not experimented. Everything about BB's are inferior. The only thing that they may be better in is with BBM. I am not trying to hate on BB its just from statistics and facts. There is a reason why RIM is losing market share. Several years ago they were top devices not anymore. I guess that trying to meet all customer demands is a goal but I would like to see more focus on the the upper/high-end devices. Would you rather have WP7 on a bunch of decent phones or a handfull of high-end (iPhone killers)? I would like to see the later of the two. But that's just me. I have no problem with variety. Variety is good but lets hope it doesn't turn out like Android were more then 60% of the Android handsets are junk. Consistency is key.Speaking from the US market point of view, the price shouldn't be a big player. The iphone 4S 16GB is now being sold on contract for $199 that's the same price that many BB's are going for. So those who were saying that chassis 2 is for a cheaper consumer base...it doesn't really apply...unless chassis 2 is going for a contract price of $99 or less. Which I don't think will be the case. Thats just the way I see it. IDK.

If this is true, then I think that Microsoft takes the wrong decisions. Instead of integrating Zune inside the explorer to make people to be able to drag and drop easier (without the obligatory use of Zune manager and stupid syncronizations), they loose their only benefitial limitations of having a proper, controlable product with specific standards.They should have made business only with 2 or 3 of the biggest manufacturers (Nokia, HTC) to be able to control their production with a more strictly way, but instead of this, Microsoft is turning WP7 into Windows Mobile again. Bugs, devices with not 100% the same software features, loosen specifications etc.Tell me, do you think that there would be any bugs, if there were only 2 major manufactururers available with WP7 and same specs? We don't get the updates at the same time with other wp7 phones, there are some bugs (a few of them are somewhat major), not all of the devices have exactly the same OS features (because MS have loosen their control by giving part of it at the manufacturers), there is no global support of menu display languages, but instead of correcting all these, MS loosens even more the control of its OS by maximizing the options. It started as a competitor for iPhone but now I doubt their methods will work. We already have so many Windows Phone devices with differences in their operation...I can't believe this (people have different problems inside a "unified" system...this is bad).At the end, WP7 will be on every device, with any shape and resolution without being controllable, without providing a unified quality experience, full of bugs and differences in speed and features...like Windows Mobile.

You are right. I was a little peeved with I heard that they would have lower resolution screens. They need to keep their standards high for many reasons, one of which is to prevent fragmentation. I think WP7 should be known as a high-end OS/device, the same way the iphone is known by everybody as a high end device. Honestly, why don't they just sell this years WP7's (focus, HD7, etc.) as low/mid-range devices? They are being sold for less than 50 bucks as it is, and they are good quality handsets with great specs.

Think a little harder. Apple definitely has fragmentation issues also, it's just they market it to make it appealing. 3Gs' are free at AT&T. There are ridiculously slow on iOS5 and they have hVGA screens but people still want it. Apple is still thought of as High End Phone makers.

MS does need to speed things up a bit. They can't wait until next year or Windows 9(?) to get to qHD/HD screens and dual core CPUs. This time next year Widows Phone needs to be able to match iPhone and Android spec to spec. That means HD screen resolutions and quad core cpus.

The funny part is by the time apollo comes out with dual cores, everyone will be complaining cause it's not a quad core like everything else at the time. lol

I'm wondering if Tango will be available on the current 800x480 devices when it becomes available.

I think they should wait before bringing in Chassis 2, they need more developer support (it's already good, let's keep it that way) and apps before they fragment the platform. Having to design for two different resolutions and form factors will be a pain for devs, and having some apps just not work with certain phones will be a pain for users.