Would you really leave Windows 10 for Pokémon Go?

Pokemon Go, no... However that there are more Nintendo games coming and this might make me reconsider...that and the fact that MS has been taking away features that drew me to WM in the first place.

They have seriously been taking away features. I took a look at IOS 10 beta and boy they have more features in their messaging than we do in our phone. It's crazy!!!

Hate Pokeman! Left WP for other reasons, not some stupid game.

Definitely not leaving over Pokemon Go. That'd be silly. I already have an iPhone and a drawer full of Android phones... and honestly, Pokemon Go isn't really captivating me. They keep playing games with my Messaging Everywhere though... that might draw me away from the platform.

I really like Pokémon and all, but the author of this article should tell us that Niantic Inc. is owned by Google and they're the ones making the game.
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With that, it's not Nintendo's fault but rather Google still not seeing Windows as a viable platform to have their apps on here. :(

Not really.
If Nintendo wants it on windows they'll put it on windows with or without Niantic (that if there isn't any crazy exclusive legal contract that gives Niantic control over the game and names and trademarks(

Niantic is NOT owned by Google, stop spreading misinformation.

It is an internal startup company within Google. And this information was also reported on onMSFT (WinBeta)

Niantic spun itself off from Google in 2015.

Niantic was spun off from Google as an independent entity in 2015. My guess is that iOS and Android was Nintendo's call. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niantic,_Inc.

"there are no good Instagram apps on ios" - Even we are having ios ported app for Windows 10 mobile.

Yes, and the official Instagram app SUCKS. It's worthless if you want to do anything other than look at pics and double tap to like. Want to regram? Sorry, can't. Want to do tag research? Sorry, can't. Want to pin a tile for each account so you can track multiple IG accounts? Sorry, can't do that either. Want to save an image? Sorry. Want to look up popular tags? Sorry. All things I can do in 6Tag on Windows Mobile.

Am I the only one here, who likes Nadella more than Ballmer? I don't know, but since he took over, MS seems to be more open, energetic and youthful.

Nadella has been good at rehabbing some elements of Microsoft's reputation, but a lot of that was already happening under Ballmer. He's been fine for Windows 10 overall, but he's been HORRIBLE for Windows Phone. When he took over, Windows Phone was growing year over year and was at the height of its popularity. Since he took over, it's fallen to the bottom of the barrel and is at its lowest point ever. Plus, he took what was a fast, stable, well designed OS in Windows mobile 8.1 and made it worse. In many respects, Windows 10 Mobile is a downgrade from WP 8.1.

Haven't we all been asking for new features for Windows Phone forever? Now we get them in W10M and you're upset we got them?

I am upset because we have lost MixRadio and HERE Maps like popular apps & services. I'm also upset because we have lost thousands of talented employees.

I honestly find your comment extremely funny. You are actually blaming Microsoft and Windows10Mobile for HERE (by which i need to say is a separate company) ending their support, and also the company line (again, another company) ending their support of the service (full stop. It's on no OS). So please, explain to me how these two "issues(?)" created by separate comapnies are now MS's fault because they developed Win10M? :)

We got a few new features, but we also got a broken UX redesign that's not as good as its predecessor, including a ridiculous obsession with copying the Android UX and its idiotic placement of key menus at the farthest possible point away from your thumb. Some of the tech underneath 10 Mobile is great, nobody's disputing that. But the user experience is inferior to what it once was, both in terms of ease of use and in terms of performance. Even on Microsoft's Lumia 950 and 950XL, both of which use standard processors found in many Android phones, Windows 10 Mobile's performance lags far behind Android. Long gone are the days of the "Windows Phone Challenge", where WP was so fast and easy to use that anything on iOS and Android was blown apart by WP. Then again, long gone are the days when Microsoft had enough balls and sense to actually put together a challenge like that.

It used to be the fastest, it used to be centralied. Its lost a lot of its speed and has become fragmented. Does anyone else feel like Photos still take a strange amount of time to load? I understand it's checking with the cloud... but what about my native photos? Messaging, after hitting send there's still a lag. I've been submitting feedback every single build about this issue, still unaddressed. Now, don't get me wrong -- I'm using the insider build because I know it's not as reliable -- but some of these things should match 8.1 or be better. Not worst (especially when my processor and ram is higher now.) My lumia 1020 was amazing on Windows 8.1. I know Nokia would have made it better if the phone had not been abandoned. The camera was a beast and though it took several seconds sometimes to record an image -- the quality was just something to marvel at. 950 XL takes great pictures too, better than most of my friends latest phones under dim conditions. But the crashing of camera, the restarts -- it's confusing how this is not something they have pinned down. Instead of firing the Nokia phone team... Microsoft could be leading the phone game if they let the Finish do what they did best -- make amazingly reliable phones. But some of these decisions come down to "shareholder pleasing" which I understand revenue is important...

I am running the latest insider build on my 950XL and my 830. This build is much better than 8.1 in my opinion, and faster on the 830  as well. I also have an 830 on 8.1 for comparison. Some features are missing, but the overall experience is getting better with every update.      

define me new features.  the things that all other oses have? but so much slower? with no apps? and apps that are vanishing from store? it takes 5 to 10 second to just load an app in a 250$ phone! and no apps are going to stay in memory when i switch between apps.  and when you think deeper, there is even no app to switch with app switcher :D even microsoft don't publish their apps for windows mobile. there are more than 20 25 apps from microsoft for ios and android that are not available in windows mobile. this thing is a sign from microsoft "leave this os, we don't care about you"

Well, you're wrong. Name MS apps, that aren't available on W10M, and its features aren't baked into the OS. I only know about one, Flow, and that's in preview stage right now if I'm right. And releasing 4-5 insider builds a week don't say, that MS doesn't care... :D

Nadella was never interested in mobile business and it is completely visible in his every Presentation.

"Nadella was never interested in mobile business and it is completely visible in his every Presentation." Yes. He uses iPhone Pro to showcase Microsoft apps.

You may not like it, but Nadella has been an Epic Fail on mobile. If you look at the numbers, its undeniable. The long term costs to Microsoft are only beginning to start adding up. The next generation sees tech as their mobile phone, and Nadella's Microsoft is a laughing stock. It will cost much more than the write offs.

Exactly. Nadella taking a dump on Mobile will be MS's biggest mistake ever and it will cost them dearly.  

"Exactly. Nadella taking a dump on Mobile will be MS's biggest mistake ever and it will cost them dearly." You are absolutely right. Mobile is the most important part of UWP - without it, it will fail.

I don't think so, because we all are mistaking Microsoft as a MOBILE company, which is completely unfair.

Microsoft's slogan: "Mobile first, cloud first." Who's making the mistake, exactly?

I don't understand what you are saying. Nadella has said this from his very first press conference (you can easily find this) and it has been repeated ad nauseum ever since from all parts of the organization.  

Yes, I completely agree that Nadella is a failure on mobile front but failing at something you never wanted to succeed at, is not a failure.

His first statement as CEO was "Mobile First, Cloud First". Since then, Microsoft mobile devices, OS, and apps have all failed. Many people have tried to change what he said, or add nuance to what he meant, but it's a complete, across the board failure on half of his stated first goal. Now Nadella apologists are saying Microsoft isn't a Mobile company. Well, they certainly aren't after two years of Nadella's "Mobile First" leadership, so you are right at this point.

Come on man, the 'mobile' in 'mobile first, cloud first' mantra means the mobility of MS services.. That's why they made the Windows 10 as a service.. So MS is all about serving its customer base with mobility of there services using the cloud as it's base..
That's the reason we see MS apps and services expanding to other platforms as well.. They even supports linux too..

I think Microsoft is not all about mobile. Nadella may be failure on mobile but he building Microsoft to where it's core lies i.e. Enterprises.

But there is limitation of Windows 8.1. Microsoft has to update the OS in order to step up the app support.

I think that anniversary update II is the one that's focused on windows 10 mobile. As of for now they're busy with windows 10 for pc especially

A lot of people say what you're saying here. On the surface this is true. Nadella did kill the windows phone.
But the fact is, wp8.1 couldn't do much. It's design language provided robust, but limited feature app. Just imagine putting features of current Word app in wp8.1 app. It's almost impossible. The hub design has been my favorite, but it had limitations.
Personally I think that by unifying platforms, MS has gone years ahead of Google and Apple, in terms of strategy. And accept it, wp8.1-even if 'growing'-could never have urged developers to make apps. With current strategy, even with almost no w10m share, big developers are making their apps, and in a feature rich way. The only think I still miss from wp8.1 is it's smoothness and fluidity, it's keyboard and bug-free-ness. With w10m, MS has yet to achieve that level.

Well said. I agree the future is a unified experience. Apple is headed in that direction as well, sort of. It will be a great selling point when MS has it completed. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android

Maybe I am the second one! (Kind of )Unifying multiple hardware (eg. phone, tablets, PC, Game console etc) on one OS is not easy. He has been providing amazing leadership in this process...that takes lots of churning... in the churning, some come close to center and other goes away from center.... Windows phone may not be close to center but never ignored and has improved significantly...future is bright!!! I think he and his team are doing excellent job!

A lot of people complain that Nadella is not put much efforts on mobile, they've tried and realized they can win the race, so they go after their largest sector which is PC, office and azure. It's like telling apple to focus more on their TV or smart watch at the expense of iPhone which is their cash cow

It has nothing to do with pushing mobile at the expense of PC. That's a BS argument. They have put close to ZERO effort in on mobile since Nutella took over. They botched Windows 10 Mobile, they went almost two years without a new hardware release and then when they did push something out, it was mediocre in the extreme. Sorry, but I'm not willing to let that idiot off the hook. He just blew 26 BILLION ******* dollars on a WEBSITE, and you're telling me they couldn't spare a few coins on Windows Mobile? Sorry, but no.

I agree... I think MS is doing much better. Much more modern.

Ballmer was a compromise as a deal with nokia.

Yeah...you are right..R*

The only complaint I have about Nadella is the 'forced' (though I'm not sure) Windows 10 upgrade on users. But I think its good, else most of the users will not upgrade as Windows users are some kind of orthodox.  -Posted from Windows Central on Windows 10

Again Windows 10 not being forced but rather recommended to everyone. I understand that computers everywhere are upgrading overnight and all, but what about the millions of apps that do the same behaviour every week or so? What about Apple and Android doing the same thing? No one is talking about these as being "forced updates"

Because PC users running Windows have always had the CHOICE on whether to upgrade to a newer version or not. Microsoft made deliberate changes to how the Windows 10 upgrade would be delivered so people who thought they were dismissing the upgrade prompt were actually agreeing to the upgrade and others who set their computers to accept Recommended updates (as is advised for security reasons) got an upgrade they werent expecting. Thats in stark contrast to mobile platforms where updates have been pretty much mandatory from the start. Not really a valid comparison which is clearly obvious to all but the most rabid fanboys.

Your post contradicts itself.  You state: "Again Windows 10 not being forced but rather recommended to everyone" and then: "I understand that computers everywhere are upgrading overnight and all" Is that not the definition of forced?  Automatically updating? "what about the millions of apps that do the same behaviour every week or so?" You're comparing an application that updates automatically to a whole Operating System?  give me a break dude.  Btw, you can disable automatic app updates.   Just face it, the Windows 10 launch was full of issue and pissed off consumers unknowingly having their computers crippled.  Not in every case, but enough.   When was the last Android or iOS operating system update rendered simple things like printing and sound broken?  That's right, there hasn't been one.  Until Microsoft can get their updates right, maybe they deserve their broken mobile platform.

No, it's been pretty well forced on some people through dishonest tactics, not least of which was changing the function of "X" button in the top right corner. There is no reason anyone should ever have come home to an OS upgrade they didn't expressly choose to install. This is NOT the same thing as updates to apps already installed on your device. Not AT ALL.

Xbox and Surface were losing Billions and MS kept them limping along and now they both make money. This is what MS should have done until they could turn it around. Nadella shutiing down of Mobile will be the costliest mistake in MS history.

You are absolutely right. And particularly the timing of Nutella's bad decision is suspect. Windows Phone was literally at the PEAK of its popularity when he took over. It had higher market share than ever, it was gaining apps thanks to the basic Universal Apps platform just starting to get underway (that's Ballmer's baby, not Nutella's), and we had plenty of hardware in the channel. You can literally chart the course of WP's decline starting from the month this idiot took over.

When was Xbox ever limping along? Despite PlayStation selling more at certain points during each year or outsold in others, those margins were not huge. Nintendo saw less gains than either MS or Sony. Where Xbox failed had to do with the Kinect, mostly. Once MS stopped bundling the 360 and One with the Kinect, the price reduced and sold more consoles. As for Surface tablets, it was new market for them and new PC design for the market. With each version of the Surface, popularity grew, because it was one of the few PCs that had touch screen and could be used as a tablet, when needed. It's easy to say everything is a failure from the outside looking in. Yes, Nadella decided to refocus on the Windows 10 OS to include mobile, but that doesn't mean that he isn't looking long-term. Windows 8-8.1 wasn't liked by many. However, taking the elements that people did like and reworking the OS, he made into so something that many more people like, to include enterprise. The average consumer market share, while high for Windows phone standards, was still way too low to be considered a viable contender for iOS and Android, as was. The OS needed to be more flexible and more inclusive of it's full fledge OS version. Were mistakes and poor decisions made? Sure there were. My point is, you can't keep the same course, if it will ultimately lead you to a dead end, even if you are seeing momentary gains. That would be like canoeing in calm waters, where you can make great strides with minimum effort and facing a dead end verses, the path that has rougher waterers, but gives you more options in direction and possibly reaching your goal. Are you likely to tip over? Yep, you sure are, but you do your best, because failure is not an option and you keep pushing. We may not like every decision and frankly, no business ever keeps the same course that will not have the potential to yield great returns over the long-term. A business that thinks only in short-term is doomed to fail. This was the direction, prior to Nadella. Yes, there were more hardware options, but the general issue has been about the lack of apps and many people I knew that tried out Windows Phone 8.1 didn't like the fact that certain apps are missing. Developers were less likely to create and app for Windows Phone 8.1, when they had to rewrite it from the ground up for a small population. Even for those devs that did, did not often update their apps. Windows 10 and mobile give much better tools and less issues developing for PC and mobile. Before anyone calls me a fan-boy for my two cents, I am, but I also look at things realistically and from a business perspective, not just as a consumer. It has been frustrating at times, but I think the direction, for better or worse, is a much better direction for MS. Enterprise is their pride and joy and their main income source. This is why Nadella focuses on other platforms and trying to get Windows 10/Mobile into a position that works best. Android and iOS have already infiltrated, but have yet to do what MS is seeking to accomplish and that's having an OS that works the same across the different form factors of PCs and mobile devices. Apple has iOS and OSX, Google has Android and Chrome. Neither works the same as the other and MS has forced them to reconsider this area. If MS doesn't continue to focus and capitalize on this opportunity then yes, things will likely not go well for them. This is the reason for the re-entrenchment and focus on the OS as a whole and not just mobile. Both will benefit greatly, if they can get everything working fluidly together.

Xbox limped along in its first generation, and got TRASHED by PS2, and barely tied with Gamecube. Also: 360 was never sold exclusively bundled with Kinect. EVER. It was out for nearly 5 YEARS before Kinect came along. Xbox One is selling well, that's true, but it's been trounced by PS4. The numbers aren't even close. Not as bad as Wii U, but pretty horrible nonetheless. Your comments on Windows Phone are COMPLETELY off base. The fact is that WP was growing year over year, its reviews got better and better as there were more devices and more features added to it. Abandoning ship for TWO STRAIGHT YEARS was not smart, it was STUPID. The answer there was never to simply let WP slip into decay as this incompetent boob did, it was to keep improving it and keep putting flagship devices out so that mindshare was maintained and grown until Windows 10 Mobile was mature enough to take over.  You aren't looking at this "realistically" or "from a business standpoint", you're looking at it from a rabid fanboy troll perspective.

You are entitled to your opinion, as I am. Realistically, it's business and Nadella made a decision, for better or worse. But, as I see it, and looking at the track that Windows 10/mobile is headed, I think it has a brighter future in the long-term. This by no means I am a "rabid fanboy troll." Lol I do find it interesting that you seem to only focus the progress albeit, short-term, Windows Phone made. I fail to see how I was of point, when I clearly stated that Windows Phone 8.1 did not fit the agenda of Windows 10, or have the ability to grow more than what it did. Mindshare is important, but if the software cannot take advantage of newer hardware, then what would be the point? Windows 10 mobile can take advantage of biometrics, increases the potential of expanding the memory up to 2TB, take advantage of universal apps that do not take much effort to make for PC and mobile, take advantage of Continuum, HP is making it possible to run legacy programs through some form of cloud-based virtualization that can run on the phone itself and a host of other features, WP 8.1 could never hope to do...ever. Yes, it was smooth and yes, it was nice during Its time. If you are going to use history as a gauge, then pay attention to how things have progressed and not just the bad things. Yes, MS has a lot of work to do and things to get right. If this makes me a "rabid fanboy troll," then so be it. But, I'm not going to resort to calling names. These forums are supposed to be about intelligent people giving their thoughts, opinions and ideas. If this upsets you...take a breath and relax. Maybe, go get some ice-cream or something. For every comment I've read of yours, you seem to be a bit uptight. Woooooooosaaaaaaaaa!

Windows Phone's gains were not "short term". They were made over a period of 4 years of concerted effort. And you clearly aren't looking at the track record of Windows 10 Mobile, because if you were you certainly wouldn't be claiming it has a brighter future ahead of it. It's DEAD, for all intents and purposes. Aside from a few fans, nobody's buying the 950 and 950XL. They're literally GIVING THEM AWAY in period sales, so poor has been its reception. Reviews of 10 Mobile at release were almost unilaterally negative, calling it out as a step backwards, which it is, from a usability standpoint. Windows Phone 8x "didn't fit the agenda of Windows 10", you say? Do tell us all, then, why it is that Windows 8x is the foundation of Windows 10? Why is it, pray tell, that they didn't simply scrap the entire OS and start fresh? Oh, you were under the impression that Windows 10 was entirely new? The features added to Windows 10 Mobile are simply built on the foundation of Windows 8x, which was built on 7, which was built on Vista, which was built on XP, which was built on 2000, which was built on NT. The issue of storage addressability is one of hardware, not software. Windows 8x was fully capable of addressing any size physical storage, given appropriate hardware. That's a BS statement. Biometrics? Kid, Windows has been able to handle biometrics for over almost TWO DECADES. I administered PC's running Windows 2000 and XP that had biometric fingerprint readers. That's a simple matter of hardware and drivers. Jesus. Do you know anything about computers?  HP is planning to STREAM apps from a server to the Windows Phone handset. That's something we were doing with Citrix and Windows CE over a decade ago. Welcome to the mid-2000's. Windows Phone 8.1 could EASILY do those things, and in point of fact, DID do those things, with Citrix Receiver. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/citrix-receiver/9wzdncrfj2kj . So once again, you're just plain wrong and have no idea what you're talking about. Yes, this forum should be for intelligent people to discuss issues, which is why you should leave. You are clearly a fanboy who has NO IDEA what he's talking about.

"Windows Phone's gains were not "short term". They were made over a period of 4 years of concerted effort." This is short-term by any means and even with that, the share was barely 2% U.S. market share. WP began to see some decline. Yes, the resurgence of low end WP helped, but not enough to make a REAL difference long-term, when android phones began infiltrating those same markets. "It's DEAD, for all intents and purposes. Aside from a few fans, nobody's buying the 950 and 950XL. They're literally GIVING THEM AWAY in period sales, so poor has been its reception. Reviews of 10 Mobile at release were almost unilaterally negative, calling it out as a step backwards, which it is, from a usability standpoint." In some regards it was. However, the recent updates have helped reduce many of those concerns from a usability standpoint. I'm running the current build on my 1520 and from the usability side of things, it works, it's fairly smooth and fits my needs. "Why is it, pray tell, that they didn't simply scrap the entire OS and start fresh? Oh, you were under the impression that Windows 10 was entirely new? The features added to Windows 10 Mobile are simply built on the foundation of Windows 8x, which was built on 7, which was built on Vista, which was built on XP, which was built on 2000, which was built on NT." No, I wasn't under any impression. I understand that the features added are features added from previous versions. However, they did, in a manner of speaking, start over using a different architecture than previously used. I understand that some elements may have been used, but for the most part, it's new. The old OS had everything built into it and it took longer to update everything , hence the once a year update. We would have had to wait for nearly a year for new features and built-in apps. Some of the kernels are the same, I get that. "The issue of storage addressability is one of hardware, not software. Windows 8x was fully capable of addressing any size physical storage, given appropriate hardware. That's a BS statement. Biometrics? Kid, Windows has been able to handle biometrics for over almost TWO DECADES. " Memory expansion was something that was not just a hardware issue. MS didn't make those same claims with WP 8.1. Why is that? They did however, state that Windows 10 mobile could potentially handle up to 2TB of expandable memory and up to 8 or 16 gigs of RAM. As for biometrics, I'm talking about mobile. I understand PCs have been able to use biometrics for quite some time. Again, hardware wasn't the only issue. MS need a mobile OS that was capable of handling newer hardware to It's fullest potential. You are correct, I'm not an administrator, but I know enough to know what I'm talking about. Most of which I read from various sites, as things began to unfold. I'm pulling most from what I remember, and some is opinion. So, please forgive me if I get something wrong or slightly off. I'm not here to be a know it all, but to bounce ideas and thoughts from others.

I'm also using the latest build on a 1520, and while it's better than the **** that shipped in November, it still suffers from NUMEROUS problems that 8x or even 7x did not. And no, they did not in ANY sense start over with a different architecture. Not in the least bit. The Windows 10 kernel is merely an evolution of the NT kernel present in nearly every major release version of Windows for the last 20 years. And when you're talking about "the old OS having everything baked into it", you're talking about WP 7x, not 8x. 8x had already begun the decoupling process and turned most major functions into apps that could be updated. 8.1 continued that. 10 is merely further evolution of that same process. Yes, memory support was a function of hardware capability, specifically the evolving SD/MicroSD standards. Each revision has upped the amount of addressable storage through the interface. The very same Windows kernel running in a PC based configuration has handled multiple TB of data for AGES. The entire issue on phone was the storage medium, which, due to physical size constraints, was always MicroSD. The larger size supporting standards, specifically SDXC, were ratified in 2009 but have only slowly trickled to market. To date, there are still no 2TB MicroSD cards you can buy. Most chipsets and firmware, therefore, don't bother supporting it, as the shelf life of mobile devices tends not to be more than 2 years anyway. As for biometrics on phones, Motorola was the first to do that with the Atrix. All a Windows Phone would need in order to support it is the hardware, the drivers, and appropriate API's. Yes, it's more complicated than a single sentence makes it sound, but it's also not something that required a new OS. 

If you look back in 2009, windows phones actually had some market share. Around ten percent. Then android took over. If ms had continued on that path and gotten more developers Windows Phones would be more popular. I personally love MS but I would have switched already if i hadn't just gotten a 950 for my graduation. I think MS has made some really bad decisions business-wise, but as long as Windows Phones get more popular and Windows remains the dominant OS for pcs, im happy.

Based on the number of Windows 10 mobile insider builds, it has not been shut down.

Insider builds of an OS in slow development does not constitute Microsoft making any effort toward improving its standing in the broader consumer market. They need to be out there with top tier devices, and they need to be bringing customer-facing, big deal improvements to the OS and to the hardware. They need to do things nobody else is doing. Things worth caring about. They're not.

I like Nadella and the vision. I find it hilarious and shortsighted when people complain about the current state of W10 on mobile because its like looking at a building in the middle of construction with only a foundation and frame and complaining about its lack of walls. The message has always been that the transistion to UWP, which is completely different then what either of the competitors are doing, would take several years. Personally, I find that lately more of the apps that I use everyday are transistioning to UWP and are showing up identical on my PC and phone, which is awesome. Once the anniversary update hits and  xbone is thrown in the mix I think that some who cant comprehend the vision will start to get a better idea. But personal experience varies and I can appreciate that some are not experiencing the benefits. While its been painful in the short term to leave the low end and the slow growth of 8.1, I think this will be better in the long run. But I could be wrong. Time will tell. Also, one more point: the platform is anything but stagnant. My phone has updated once a day for the last few days, every few days before that and once a week before that in fast ring. Stagnant would mean none of that is happening. So definitely not stagnant.  

What's short sighted is Nadella's stupidity at abandoning Windows Phone instead of continuing to build a strong foundation for the future. What's sort sighted is gargling MS's balls.

How has he abandoned it when there are more updates for the platform coming out now then there have ever been. Yes they've temporarily retreated from the consumer space and completely left certain segments of the market to others (low end, etc) but they are actively developing other segments and supporting other hardware makers that are filling in the gaps. However, to say that its abandoned would mean that developement has stopped. And it just hasnt. Its sped up. Youre looking at a half finished product and complaining that it lacks features. Thats ridiculous. And to the point of gargling MS's balls: is adulting really that difficult for you that whenever someone disagrees with your opinion the first thing you do is result to name calling and immature innuendo? 

Letting the platform go stagnant was a terrible idea. I mean, what happens now? Why are we staying? Is Microsoft ever going to make a big push to get developers and marketshare back? Is it worth it?

Have you forgotten this? http://www.windowscentral.com/surface-phone-slated-april-2017 Remember MS is always a day late and a dollar short but it does come eventually.

The so called "Surface Phone" or "Halo Phone" is the HP Elite x3 coming out in a month

No... The Elite X3 is made by HP. The Surface Phone would be made by Microsoft and branded as a Surface device in the same family as the Surface and Surface Pro, also made by Microsoft...

What makes you think Surface Phone won't get cancelled like Surface Mini and many other hardware and services?
 

The damage has already be done. WIndows Phone's repuation is through the mud and made worse by him dumping Mobile. You can't just wake up and get consumer mind share. They kept Surface and Xbox along even while both were losing Billions. Can someone please explain WHY he felt passing on Mobile was a good idea?

If it makes you feel better, I recall reading him considering selling off the Xbox part so...

That was only a rumor, there was never any truth to it.

Windows phone is dead. Windows Mobile is a different thing.

Windows Mobile is Windows Phone with a new name. It's still dead.

That's still rumor, it is not confirmed. And even if it WERE confirmed, there's no indication that it'd be anything other than another lackluster smartphone, which it *cannot* be.

Nadella's strategy communication skills can only be described as fuzzy and confusing. No one knows what he's really doing. People try to take his vague strategies like, "Mobile First" and explain away the mobile device, OS, and even app failures as part of the "Mobile First" strategy. But people are just excuses.

I guess you are new to microsoft. In his very first interview he pointed out that he was never in favour of mobile business and you can still notice it as he is focussing primarily on bots, cortana, skype, azure, mixes reality and that too mostly for enterprises.

And yet the company slogan is Mobile First, Cloud First. WHy even take the job then when you don't even like half of what the company stands for??

Half of the company, are you serious? I guess deal was $7.6 billion with and recently with linkedln, it is $26 billion.

How did you get a monetary value from "half of what the company stands for??"??? The company motto is Mobile First, Cloud First. So Nadella is ignoring HALF of the company motto/mantra. He literally put it on the shelf and pays no attention to it. We are lucky W10M shares a core with PC edition, otherwise i doubt he would put resources to Mobile.

I don't think mobile definitely speaks to phones alone. Other devices and services can be considered mobile. Mobile means able to move around right? Like portable. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android

Mobile is: phones, tablets, laptops. 

You are probably right, however give Nadella some credit. Under his leadership, the company halted it downward spiralling of saturating the market with cheap phones that had miniscule variations from one model to the next, and with little to no affect on market share. IMO, MicrosoftPhone has a future now. In the short run we are going loose out and loose apps that are popular on other platforms. In the long run the apps will come, especially now that MSFT has a strategy in place. Fruits are appealing, but will eventually rot, seeds require patience for they will grow and produce even more fruit.

You mean going from releasing lots of phones to releasing few to no phones (especially if you're on Verizon)

Sorry, but no. Prior to this moron taking office, Windows Phone market share was climbing year over year. He single handedly destroyed it, and he is the reason why app developers fled. 

Oops my bad, how silly of me, I should have recognised that at its best WP had a stellar market share of around 4%.

Actually, it's worldwide total high was closer to 6%, and in parts of Europe, Asia and South America, it often went over 10%. In a scant handful of countries, there were times where its market share surpassed iPhone for brief periods. But regardless of what its top percentage was, the goal is always to INCREASE, never to decrease, and on that measure, Nadella has failed spectacularly.

We can debate over a mere 2%, but that does not change anything from a business point of view.

Ballmer left too much to clean, I guess. It was his aspiration to move to mobile business, which never worked for Microsoft even in the past. Nadella was even against the Nokia deal too.

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Exactly, I left windows phone 3 weeks ago, after being faithful for 5 years , not because of apps but because of the OS itself... Posted via the Windows Central App for Android

He's right sadly

ill chose to leave and go to ****droid.. Why? Many reason mcrsft said win10 for mobile was built to produvtivity.. Why i stay in this platform when others got productivity etc. Powerpoint,exell,and word and i forget corntana.. Why u stick to win10m?

Microsoft is all about productivity. It was never for fun and will never be.

No. They tried to make it 'fun' and 'consumer' and failed terribly - now they're back to 'productivity' so you'll never really see titles such as this on thier mobile offerings

The Xbox One is not about fun? I guess I've been using it wrong then

The Xbox One is not about fun? I guess I've been using it wrong then

The Xbox One is not about fun? I guess I've been using it wrong then

The Xbox One is not about fun? I guess I've been using it wrong then

Ahhahahaha, productivity on mobile?

And too be honest. If surface phone flops. Nadella will not regret it as he is consolidating microsoft position as a service provider in a different ecosystem. Mobile business never had him.

Its not just about Pokémon. Its about lots and lots of apps that arent available for Windows Phone. Whenever I try to buy a "smart" device, its only compatible with iOS and Android. The Cons are overweighing the Pros. So, yes (and very reluctantly) I will buy an Android device.

Name one that isn't on Windows. I can say that most have either functional official apps and really good third-party apps for Windows 10.

Have u ever tried connecting Sony SBH 52 bluetooth headset to use the notifications ? Or tried using iota smart bulb ?? Or tried connecting it to Maruti Ciaz ???

a lot of apps aren't on windows phone/mobile , including:
-a  s h i t   ton of games, casual or not -youtube (on my mom's Lumia tubecast, which to me is the only good youtube app on windows phone/mobile, crashes for no reason, Furthermore there are no youtube apps on windows phone/mobile that support live videos)
-decent note taking app (Evernote doesn't sync notes,google keep isn't available and OneNote for some reason keeps requiring me to sign in, which I can't always do since I don't have mobile data)
-Nintendo DS or PSP emulators -decent PS1 emulator -decent facebook messenger app (old version can't send gifs and lacks features (WP8.1), new version takes a long time to load up your pics before you can send them,crashes randomly while browsing pics before sending, the new version is an iOS port btw)
-facebook messenger and telegram apps which support landscape, at least for looking at pics without downloading them  

Would I leave for Pokemon Go?  No.... Do I wish we had the game and get kinda sad seeing everyone else playing it? Yes...   However, things add up.  We *JUST* got facebook messenger to support GIFs.. and now android and iphone have like.. extra emojis and some basketball game thing.. is it something super important and life altering? No.. but it gets tiring always being behind too..  I LOVE my 950 XL... but i might give it to Redstone 2 and see how W10M is coming... i'll wait for like the Galaxy S8 or something.. Not going back to iphone.

We have the stupid basketball game too ^_^

If I ever hear someone say that stuff i'll ban that person from my life

iam here sitting in the corner with my 600USD worth LUMIA 950xl all my friends are in the city catching some stupid POKEMON and having FUN yet ME ALONE with my WP10 BETA sitting in the corner wanting back my money to buc a Samsung S7 EDGE

Why would you waste your money on a Lumia at this point? 

No its just a short while hype ! Ain't mad to give up my phone for a game !!! XD

Of course not. Silly question.

I don't think it's a silly question... I think it's a misleading question because it says "for just one game" which isn't reality.... People would likely leave because the fact is that there's a lot more apps missing as well, which is reality.

Hahahaha I feel this article was made for me! (I.e my comments on the original article)

Having said that, one of the thoughts that came to my mind when deciding to switch platforms or not was "But pokemon Go wont be released on Windows Phone" in the con list. (Yup I am a big pokemon fan too)

Yes, whether we admit it, or not,, people want thier apps.

Seeing as I wouldn't touch this game with a 10 foot pole (Datamining), no.

Lmao

All I can continually think of here is the TNG episode, "The Game."

Sad day when you're proud to be Wesley, lol

Resounding NO.

No, I wouldn't,, but it's not about me... Like I've always said, it's not literally about not having a specific app, rather the principal that this happens often... That's my biggest fear, because we will continue to see a lack of developer support, adoption by consumers, OEM support, carrier support, which will leave MS no choice but to focus less on mobile..... So, rather I, in particular, care about the app is irrelevant when so many other people do. And, this is the EXACT reason why Windows needs Snapchat, and other popular apps at the time they are most popular along with the other platforms... Can Windows survive without these apps? Sure, but not how we would like to see it survive.

Correct. I somewhat agree with you too. And I don't get it why many people here don't like you :D

Many people here don't like me because I do not lie... Lol.
And, I'm VERY ok with that. In life you have to stick by what you know to be true, and right. Never follow the crowd. Stand for something, or fall for nothing. You will not always be popular with the majority, but a strong person will be happy with themself.. That's the bottom line, son. Practice that. Be a leader, and not a follower. Thanks.

Bought a second phone

same, got my friends to help pitch in for a cheap phone to play with them, win10 will always be #1 for me

I hereby predict it won't be long before your "second phone" (and Android or iOS device) becomes your first phone.

I think this is accurate for a good number of people here. I decided to try out the other platforms just because I felt the need to 5 months ago, and I haven't returned. Hard to picture myself returning full-time unless things really pick up speed. My Lumia is used on Wifi only.

Same here.... Picked up a used LG G4 for chea, to live with Android for a while... after getting used to features like Tap to pay, options for smartwatches and other apps.... Going back to Windows Phone would be really hard... If we got more than just bug fixes from Microsoft, it might be different but, it's like they dont care any more about the platform.

I have two phones. Android and Lumia 1520. Lumia is still my main phone. Android is still a mess with all the apps. Root that, download this, edith this, apps that want to take over the device, etc.

Nope it's not that serious.

In all honesty, I'm presently using my Lumia 950 XL to share internet to some cheap ZTE $30 Android 5.1 phone I picked up at Best Buy. This is functioning well for a Pokemon Go solution. ..... this is also the first time I've legitimately "felt" the App Gap and couldn't rationalize it away - I'm 29 and Pokemon was THE thin when I and my friends were kids. Literally every one of my friends save perhaps 3-4 are playing, we have a FB group for my state... etc. ......... we need Pokemon Go on Windows 10! Tweeting them daily.

Niantic started as a Google property, and Google is still a major backer since they went independant in 2015. Simply put, I'd be surprised to see any of their games make the jump to Windows 10 Mobile.

No. In fact, this game has become annoying to those not playing it so fast that I find it offensive. Plus, why are people surprised a Nintendo title is not on a competitor's platform? iOS and Android do not run a major gaming console that competes with Nintendo; Windows does.

No way!!!!

I've been using my girlfriend's old iPhone 5c to play. Sim switching is annoying and it slows down my progress but I couldn't stand to use that thing as a daily driver.

No, no, no, simply, no. Im a huge Pokémon fan but ain't no way im leaving for it. If they want me as a customer,bring it to the os I choose to use and if that's too much to ask then oh well.

That's the nice thing about being on T-Mobile (or AT&T), you can pop out your SIM card easily and put it in a backup Android phone. I love to use Windows 10 Mobile as my daily phone, but yesterday got my cheap LG and hunted Pokemon with my nieces.

No I would not leave the O.S to play the next big thing which is for children if you ask me.

Uh-oh. U can't say that. Your going to get the man-children's panties in a bind.

All of your posts reveal that you're the child that lacks perspective.

Awwww

Windows Phone is for adults!!!! No children here!!! #PRODUCTIVITYLIKEABAWS guys!!! I only play in Excel!!!!! Can your phone run Excel on a second monitor??? I thought not!!!!!!

And I still can't open a .txt file... Productivity...

Burn

Not for Pokemon Go, but maybe for a Tamagotchi :P

Every day I get a new reason to leave Windows 10 Mobile. Pokemon Go is just another...

I'm so tired of this. This is just a little f*cking game, why does everyone lose their mind? F*ck Niantic, f*ck Nintendo, I'm so mad right now.
Walking on the street with my friends and they be like: "Have you played Pokémon Go yet?" " Omg that game is awesome!" bla bla bla. So what? I DON'T GIVE A F*CK!!!

Yes, it's embarrsing to even have an article like this one on-line.

LMAO. Yeppppp.

Your right, its just one app but, people dont leave the phone because of one app.... Add this app to banking, tap to pay and even Snapchat.... it's never about one app, it's normally about a bunch of apps..

Of course not for a single app,but if many popular apps like this don't arrive on windows...then it makes the argument valid

I'm hoping to go to a Windows phone to get away from the games. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android

**** no! i am not leaving because of an app.

Everyone vote the last option. #NotInterestedInPokemon

On the matter of angry birds it's already happened. Angry birds 2 hasn't come to windows phone.

Arent the god knows how many Angry Birds games enough that are available on Windows? :D

I've just been using my Lumia 950 XL as a hotspot for my old Nexus 6 and playing it that way. I could do the same with an Android Tablet if I wanted to.

Only if Microsoft discontinue windows phone i will go back to android.

If it ever happens (what I hope won't) I'll go with iOS. I already had enough of android before I switched to Windows.

I doubt MS will discontinue W10M in the near future. I also doubt they will release phones with the OS after the Surface Phone (if they'll ever release even that).

I wouldn't leave for this app, but I have dabbled out because of other apps. Voted not interested in Pokemon because I'm indifferent about it.

Not for pokemon, but the general app gap (strava, sky go, Timehop amongst others) and more importantly Microsofts seeming ambivalence to it I sadly pretty much resigned to my 950xl being my last windows phone

To be honest, I THOUGHT about it. When you got a group of friends doing it, actually doing group scavenger hunts, I feel left out. Mind you, we're all in our late 20s.

There's a reason why this question show up. It's not about Pokémon. It's about the availability of quality apps on this platform. As such. I won't leave this platform for such a game. But I will eventually leave if the apps developments on Windows 10 are slowing down. Hopefully not

If it's not about Pokicho , then they shouldn't have asked about it.

Seriously? Two articles in two days about this stupid game not on windows? Get a life people!

Yes,just ordered Moto g3.Its nit only because of Pokémon(main reason),its platform experience which has gotten worse and many abandoned apps(Xbox music)

I'm not a fan of Pokémon and I don't really care about this hype train. So, no for me.

I would think that most people now who are using a Windows Phone aren't using it for the apps. For myself, being a long-time Windows Phone user who has switched to an iPhone over a year ago, it's things like this that remind me why I left Windows Phone.

Ain't gonna give up a superior user experience for some bs that will simply serve to waste my time

I love Pokémon but I wouldn't play Pokémon Go even if I had the chance to do it on Windows. That would be no more than a huge waste of battery. So no, I would not leave Windows that easily.

I bought my phone for productivity. No to play games. So NO

Good for you, but please open a .txt file on your phone and show me how productive you are

I already left Windows 10 mobile, but it was more because of Snapchat (or the lack of it) & other poor quality apps I really need to use daily (like Slack). I miss the live tiles, but that's all. I'm quite surprised at how fast Android has become and its multitasking just Works perfectly. No resuming screens, no waiting. Guess I won't be coming back to Windows for a while

If you miss the Live Tiles, download SquareHome from the Play Store. It literally gives you the Windows Phone UI AND it allows you to expand on it. And although it doesn't reproduce Live Tiles functionality exactly, it allows you to turn widgets into tiles. OR, which I find a better solution, add a screen to the left of the main tile screen where you can put all your widgets.

Damn. MS needs to add more customization options, and let developers take advantage of a whole new catalog of customization options.

i tried it it is not anything like windows 10 live tiles matey, i lasted about 10 minuters on it when i saw the differences.

Voted that I'm not interested, but still definitely won't leave.

I'm was never interested in Pokémon.

I would leave my windowsphone, not because of,apps and games, but because there is no good midranger to buy! When theres no phone to buy(650 sucks) how can I stay?

950 is already upper mid-range price in Finland at least. I'm guessing you will be able to find it quite cheap by the end of the year. Same will be true for lots of phones ofc.

Well, this mentality isn't really new. People have been doing it for years, with gaming consoles. Although, this is a tad different, in respect to other uses people need or want on their phones. But, to switch phones because of a game would be a bit silly to me. However, some of these same people would buy different consoles' to play specific games. I guess, this would be no different. I can think of several things I can do with money used to buy even a cheap Android phone. But, no judgment here. If that's what people want, then go for it. I'm not one of those people. I'm happy with WP right now. It may not have all the apps and games, but it does what I need it to do. That's all that matters for me, right now.

MS executives have already switched. Why should we stay, to debug buggy builds as free workforce?

Lol.

People say this game is addictive. But is it? And for how long? I would think novelty will wear off pretty fast for most people.

I find it funny that the first article was 90% adults that haven't grown up crying about not being able to play their kiddie game (the other 10% was me laughing...hhahaha). Then in this article, it is obvious the massive majority couldn't give a crap about this dick and Jane game.

Keep thinking that you're the "grown up" here. Sounds like you need that for your self confidence.

Actually its for my amusement. Thanks for following me around like a lost puppy though. In all honesty, I am sorry to here that your not going to get to play your game. My apologies.

tell me as a older man why shouldnt i play pokimon go or all those games you consider kiddie?  Are you really that negative and age bias?  I,m guresiing your from either the 18th centry generation cause i havent heard a comment so backwards in years.

when I purchased my first smartphone in 2012 i.e Lumia 610 I know windows phone doesn't have much apps... I didn't care about apps but I did care about OS stability and I was so need of a phone with great battery backup and very min. bugs.... win 7.5, 8.1 didn't disappoint me at all.... but win10 did a lot.... I literally don't care about Pokémon Go even though I am huge fan of Pokémon in childhood. All I care about is no bugs, no app crashes, no battery drain issue.....

You're asking the wrong audience. Windows Central readers aren't going to leave, obviously. However, the average person would definitely leave WP for one app. Especially, if it's a kid whose friends are all playing the newest game, or using a certain communication platform--like Snapchat. They're missing out on experiences that their friends will remember for years, if not decades--all the fun they had on Snapchat and playing Pokemon Go.

Normally not for 1 app....but, once it adds up to a handfull, it's easy to see why people leave Windows Phone... And not for people here, that are more fanboys than normal phone users.

I have this on my nexus 6p and it hasn't run once. Will not get past first screen. You aren't missing much. Unless you like tapping a grey screen and watching nothing happen....

Will not leave platform! but I was about to get a second phone(to test the android apps we build) and at the same time this game is released.

LOL, no. I love Pokémon but I'm not switching for a free-to-play game. Especially not when I have access to the full games on my 3DS. I'm fine with waiting for the release of Sun and Moon later this year to get my Pokémon fix.

I'm just afraid that Sun and Moon might require iPhone or Android to complete certain tasks, or catch certain event Pokemon. If that's the case, I have to leave WP. I now hope NX has GPS so it's possible to play such games on NX.

no i will keep my windows mobile i also have an android phone i am enjoying both worlds, what I am missing from the windows mobile is the HERE apps.

No I have an android phone for the game and other things but I could never leave windows mobile.

There is always something someone wants enough to say enough is enough. It is nice to be on a platform where you don't miss any apps or games. There isn't an app or game that has made me want to leave windows phone but I am tempted to switch at times because if I want an app, I don't want to have to say oh is it on windows and it not being there. We are still missing important finance apps and apps that are there aren't too good. Instagram app for example can't upload video files (crashes). Have to use 6tag. So with Galaxy Note 7 around the corner and iphone 7 following. MS needs to let us know what they have planned for surface phone.

I don`t even understand this frenzy about pokemon ... PS: the game lead to a highway carnage because some dude stopped the car to catch pikachu or w/e

That was a proven fake.  Get your news from somewhere besides Facebook next time.

Enough with the Pokemon Go (and kale) fads already. Haha

If a fad results in raising the market cap of a company by $6.5 billion, then that is some fad.

Who cares? Where is the HP Elite x3???

It's on the way

>It's on the way Not if you use Verizon....

DOA.

Jack that!... Where is the Surface Phone Pro❓❓

"would you change your car if it didn't get you home?" I've seen one friend do it already, WP just doesn't do anything to them, to most people

Ok

Ummm... The correct analogy under your example would be, "does Windows Phone allow you to make phone calls". The answer is YES.

What exactly are they expecting for their phone to "do to them"???

Looking at picking up a cheap android phone and using my Lumia 950 XL as a hotspot now that its been mentioned.

Windows is dead.

No, the opposite.... Windows is huge! And, I have a phone that runs one of the largest, and most popular, operating systems in the world.

I lost friends because I dont have pokemons

Those friends weren't worth having then.

Age❓

Don't tempt me.

I have no interest in this game, but I did leave due to lack of other apps (banking, Starbucks, Amazon Prime, Here). Posted via my Moto X Pure Edition using the Windows Central App for Android

My primary phone week always be Windows, but my wife and I dedicated hours/days/weeks/months to Pokémon before and at the start of our relationship. This is like a bonding experience that I can't miss out of. My L520, was my second device, but an Android has officially taken it's place. Bear in mind I've always used an android tablet, and will never buy an iOS device (hmmm...the thought of Pokémon GO being an iOS only app...cringing...). Sigh...just imagine Pokémon GO on HoloLens...

I have an Android device from when I switched to T-Mobile, and I downloaded the game onto it. My main phone is a 950XL and I want the game on Windows Phone, but I've been playing it a little by tethering and I have to say, I'm willing to wait for the game. It's honestly not that good, and extremely buggy. Will it definitely come out for Windows Phone? No. But at least if it does it'll have had time to develop.

Not a great article, but it is an extremely relevant question. The writing here is extremely biased against the argument, which is whether the lack of support for any one app (no matter whether it's just a game) enough to convince longtime fans to jump ship now. If you're still with Windows 10 Mobile, then you've probably resigned yourself to being left out of the hip new trending app. Here's the problem. Apps are experiences, apps drive the social ecosystem, and apps give relevance to a platform. And let's be honest... it's not just one app - but rather the combined sum total of everything you're missing by sticking with Windows. Am I going to switch because this app isn't available for W10M? No, but I might consider picking up an Android or iOS device as a secondary device, so I can participate. And eventually, my Windows device will probably be relegated to secondary device status, because no one wants to juggle multiple devices. Moreover, my kids aren't even going to give Windows a passing consideration, because it doesn't have the apps they and their friends care about.

Thank you.

left windows phone because my university has app and it's only on android :| but i still use it as camera and to listen to music cuz it has best battery life when used in saver mode 

left windows phone cuz my university has a app for us and it's only on android but i still use my windows phone as music player and camera cuz it has best battery life in saver mode

Valid

Personally no. But I would not blame someone if they did, because the way I see it, the game is just the straw that breaks the camel's back. It just as easily could have been something else that caused someone to switch.

Already left Windows phone, and it wasn't even because of the app gap. It was because of how backwards the platform was moving in regards to usability, stability, and performance.

Wait you left ... say it isn't soooo... nooooooo! What is next cats living with dogs... pure chaos!! /s

Those in the US just get yourselves one of those BLU R1 android phones for $50. There are lots of options available in other countries for the same amount. Once you are done with Pokemon Go keep it in the closet only to whip it out when the next big thing comes along. No need to get rid of your Windows Phones.

Definitely not. There are much more legitimate reasons to leave. So I did ;-)

Excuse my French, but **** no! I prefer to not a phone at all than to leave my Windows phone! That's how much I love Windows

No I'd just use my Android tablet like I do for clash of clans.

Leaving the Platform for a Game does not make much sense....

It's not just about Pokemon Go. You've said it yourself. It's the general lack of applications. I really miss my live tiles, but, here's the thing: with a a little bit of tweaking I can get very close to them with Android too, on top of that, I have a working, polished FTP client, SSH client, AirDroid, Inbox, Google Drive, all the other Google apps (which are arguably better than Bing - at least in my part of the world), web apps, custom keyboard, up-to-date Facebook / Messenger and a bunch of other stuff.

I like Pokémon and I really love Nintendo, but no, I don't care about this game, augmented reality is too distractive, and annoying to me.

That's plain stupid. If you actually care, you should be more angry about being discriminated against rather than angry at Windows for not having it.

That's how I feel in general when a new app comes out for other platforms. If they aren't making it available to me, they aren't interested in my business. I'm not giving up a phone I genuinely enjoy for the sake of an app.

People are getting mugged and finding real dead bodies playing Pokemon Go. I think I'll pass and stick to Wordament.

I left in December when I found out it wasn't coming to Windows 10. That pushed me over the edge when Windows Mobile 10 was nowhere near as reliable as Windows Phone 8.1. I loved Pokémon growing up and being able to play it with my fiancée, friends, and brothers was well worth the trade. So far, jumping ship has given me a much better mobile experience. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android

Currently I'm on BlackBerry 10 but with its impending death I'm leaning Windows next - probably either when my Passport dies or the Surface Phone comes out, whichever is first. Two apps hold me back and keep the possibility of Android alive instead: Pebble: I already have the watch and I would reduce it to a fitness tracker if I went to Windows. Mint: We use it for a lot of financial management. Most is done from a computer, but having an app to log cash transactions is very helpful.

Wow!  Over 36% would either leave or buy a second phone to play this stupid game!

No. Not at all. This game seems to be fun, but if they don't release it on the OS I use and love, I just won't play it. And it's that simple.

This is stupid for those who consider to leave wm10 just for this game. They just put hype on this. Wait till someone gets accident or get an issue on this game then This will slowly down. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android

Pokémon Go is the most insecure cr*p that I've seen in a while, so no... I'm not gonna leave my preferred platform for it, just so I can pretend I'm 5 again. It has already been abused so many times already, people being lured to locations and robbed, location data not secured and already a hacked apk with malware for Android...as usual. I just don't get the appeal at all

Tried android and iOS and neither are a more desirable platform than windows in my opinion despite lack of certain apps.
Windows until the end!

I don't like that game..for this I don't want to live my windows phone...peoples are crazy for that game. ."_"R*

No. But I have left because of other apps. Whenever and if it ever gets fixed, than I would consider going back. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android

Soon Win10 users would be getting "Poke-a-mom" Go fetch 'em all!! :D

Leaving EVERYTHING that you love about Windows for a game is just about as much loyalty as leaving everything you love about your spouse for a side piece. Ridiculous.

That's a good analogy.

Your smartphone/spouse analogy is rediculous.  Get some perspective.

Yeah seriously. I would hope that you wouldn't put your spouse on the same level as a PHONE.

I don't play games on my phone. So nope

No games? Not even the Insider Ring builds?

I could care less about pokemon so this may skew my opinion, I feel like anyone who has a professional/skilled/9-5/ whatever kind of demanding or labor intensive job and a family, doesn't have the time nor want to play this game. those are the people that WM has a chance with anywho so.....whocares

"I could care less" So then you do care a little bit?

I didnt mind not having a huge amount of apps or third party hardware, but Seeing as how windows phone has been put on the backburner in priority when it wasn't already high on the list, and a combination of bad hardware bugs and software bugs, I'm goin to be moving on to android with my next phone.

I will never leave Windows!!!

It is a fad for this month and then next month it will start dwindling.  Just wait until it starts getting cold outside.  I am sure it will drop off fast then. :) I personally don't get the whole Pokemon thing but I am at least glad it is getting people out of the house.  What I don't enjoy is all of the people getting distracted and hurt because they are too busy messing with their phone than paying attention.  That was a problem before this game though.  It is just making it a little worse.  

I don't like that game..for this I don't want to live my windows phone...peoples are crazy for that game. .R*

Leave my phone just so I can play Pokemon Go?  HAHAHAHAHAHA No. Like every other mobile game in existence, the fad will fade.  However, I think this does highlight Microsoft's meager first party games.  Microsoft doesn't offer many unique game experiences on Windows Phone, instead (as they too often do) they look to third party developers to fill those gaps.  Where is the "Microsoft made must have Windows Phone game"?  Microsoft has plenty of experience in the gaming market.  They should be CRUSHING it when it comes to first party games, but much like the Xbox itself, first party games are lacking in comparison to other platforms. 

If i really wanted to play pokemon i would buy a 3ds and play a decent pokemon. From what i've seen, you just walk around, see a pokemon, look at him in the camera and throw pokeballs, rinse and repeat, the combat system consists, basically, in swiping to right or left. It's also super bugged and half baked. I can't honestly see myself being entertained with this game for more than 15 minutes. here's a video that seems to summarize really well the experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGt5iIi-EwI

There is a couple of dudes at my job playing that game at worker and they are in their early 20s... Its crazy.

Take video of them doing this and then replay it at their retirement parties if they make it that long.

"Microsoft is out there supplying all of the people, all of the time"
- MS, It's time to take REVENGE . Take MS office , Cortana and other MS family apps back from ANDROID & IOS.

Then Google Docs/Sheet will take the place Office, Google Now and Siri will take the place of Cortana.

Google Docs was pretty much killed by Office 365 in the non-fantasy world where Microsoft will never pull their apps from iOS/Andorid. Nothing on Android/iPhone will take the place of Cortana because even though it's available on these platforms no one uses Cortana instead of Siri/Google Now...

MS needs to sell Office 365 subscriptions as its the only Azure tenant making any money. Not much but still some. Cortana is not even a fad.

If they removed their apps from iOS and Android nobody would be using them. Do you really think they want to lose all of their customers?

MS is a Software company. They probably want to make sure their products are available on the most popular and most used platforms.

Hell no, anybody who plays this should be shot.

I bet you probably would shoot somebody.

**ck windows 10.... It's been always like this

I might be wrong when no data to support but I don't see adults playing games on their phones irrespective of any platform....with some exceptions like Sudoku and crosswords etc. There is certainly age factor plays a big difference. My GF's both kids use windows phone and plays a number of games. They were asking for Pokemon on their phones.

I've been on Windows Phone since my LG Quantum, so the app gap hasn't been too much of an issue for me. The thing that is looking like it's going to drive me away is the carrier gap, i.e. Verizon. I need to be on Verizon and if we don't get a Windows Mobile device, I'll be shopping for a shiny new android phone...

Well if you do go android make sure to check the features, Verizon's likes to remove or add without informing the customer The only phone that I noticed they don't mess with or run their bloatware on is the apple phones.

I'm not interrested in pokemon, but why have microsoft to screw always everything up?? Just port that freakin game, and do loyal customers happy, idiots

Im not hyped or even interested in PG, I have switched from android to ios to android back to ios back to android an and finally windows. There would have to be a multitude of issues or lack of support for the majority of its apps for me to leave windows phone platform.

No but I'll leave windows 10 mobile if Surface phone doesn't launch with Oculus Home support in 2017...

Another sorry article like this will force me to stop coming to this website. I come to this website to see some positive articles about new inventions in the Microsoft World. These days though, it's all been negative. I like to live positive and this negativity can't be good for anyone. THREE ARTICLES IN 48 HOURS ABOUT SOMETHING WE ALL KNOW IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IS ENOUGH. Sometimes focusing on what we have can lead to a better change.

Another one whining that this site isn't a hugbox.

No you are not getting the point. I can get this type of negativity by reading the Verge and Phone Arena.

This site is reporting on reality. Wanting them to ignore negatively and only report sunshine and rainbows is wanting a hugbox.

Can you leave the guy alone? He has a point. We don't three articles for Pokémon go. Life goes on man. Or is it that you want us to leave windows 10? Posted via the Windows Central App for Android

Even as a child I never was interested in Pokemon, so I'm staying with Windows. Thanks.

I wouldn't leave the platform for one game, but this is the first game that made me go out and buy a 60 dollar zte zmax 2 just to play with my friends.

No, I am too old to leave it for a game. But, the sad fact is that these game and soft developers do not even bother to make uwp apps and games for Windows 10 so that people could use or play them on PC. This will eventually lead to decline of Desktop Windows in the future.

Never! Android has Pokemon Go but is not the best platform. Windows 10 is.

To leave a platform for a mobile game is just dumb. The fad will die.

You know...I absolutely love Windows mobile -- I don't really like the app icons compared to tiles, but between the app-gap (Discord being one of the massive ones at this point that I need for work) and in all honesty things load a hell of a lot quicker with a good Droid.  I'm considering getting a second phone, but wouldn't it just be easier having 1 phone? >_>

I can't get a blue wiper on my car. I will immidiately switch cars...

Live read on Crackberry comments in which people are actually getting another device fir the game, literally. Windows 10 has really come together after the insider builds. I'm not letting go of my Lumia for ONE game. As much as its nostalgic, and perhaps it will make it ti the windows store like other titles have, I'm not really keen of it. Plus, Android devices are not as secure, and iOS is limited as a device and OS

I have a iPhone provided to me by my company. I just downloaded the app to see what the craze was about. It is kinda fun and a little addicting. Just seeing what kind of pokemon based on your location makes it interesting. Takes me back to the first time I played a Pokemon game. I find myself checking the app just to see. Now with that being said. It is extremely sad that it is not on my Lumia 950 because I do love WP. I won't jump for this game because I like WP as a whole. 

Totally agree :)

Everything has it's peak, even this will pass... I can't compromise productivity for a game

I use my phone for real thing and productivity , not for silly games. that is why i can't stand android any more.

Whether it's productivity, games or media that you are interested in you will be left behind this app coming out for Android and IPhone and not windows phone is just another set of proof that developers don't care about Windows phone to take the time to port over their apps anymore the incentives are too low the system is difficult. Windows phone is slowly slipping away due to lack of compatibility!

There are more productivity apps on iOS and Android than Windows phone. So if productivity is all that you care about, then... nevermind.

We don't play games we enjoy Sports. Let those Kids get their heads bumped and ass kicked till the lagdroids battery lasts and iNos stumbles and hits the rock.  No way leaving W10 Mobile.

No way I will leave MS for a 1 single game. MS is trying its best to bring the Apps we love into windows like minecraft, youtube( I know its just a link but at least they did something!). I am staying with MS because they are very responsive to our feedback and stuffs.

Only for Pokemon Go..no..but the combination of all the things may provoke me a little..

No, because its just a game, and there's worse stuff to care about in life.

That would be stupid tbh

Next we will have Track and Field Go. Attach your phone to a javelin and watch your points soar! Record numbers of broken phones reported, but its just so amazing and addictive! Street Fighter Go, pick a fight with random people but make sure you keep your phone clutched in your hand. Healthcare makes a bundle! I would never leave W10 Mobile just for a game, unless it was an exclusive Chrono Trigger sequel. But then again, id probably get a cheap Android for that and use it only for gaming.

Throwing obsolete phones peaked a couple of years ago. Best just throw windows mobiles into nearest thrash can (for electronic waste) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_throwing

I think everyone is focusing on the wrong question. It's not "would you leave W10 mobile just because of an app or Game"
There is something more going on here as I see it. I was in Michigan this weekend at Silver Beach with family and friends. As we walked around I can tell who was actually playing this game. My son and his girlfriend were actively searching and sharing an AR experience on a social media level! I would see people playing and say out loud Pokémon go!...and people I didn't even know would look up and smile! Sometimes a conversation would start and an immediate barrier was broken...there is something very dynamic and interesting going on here. People have been brought together using an AR game which fosters communication, breaks down barriers, and bring people together who would normally walk past individuals and not speak. Not only do they speak but they were actually helpful and would say "I found one over there, just go here and take a right". I see Great potential here! So back to the question at hand...people may switch platforms, not because of a game, but they may switch because they are not able to easily engage in an "experience" because the developer industry still have an IOS and Android focus and do not realize the potential of including the UWP to there developing process for whatever reason.
This is not just about an app or game...this is about a company who has been slow and not as agile when it comes to social and consumer demands. I myself would not switch, but what I see is MS not allegating resources to explore this phenomenon and a slow reaction to the over changing social industry and consumer demands. Missed opportunity and not enough agility. imho!

I was at a park yesterday with 7 pokestops. People were helping each other out with Lure Modules and we were running around, shouting out which pokemon we found. We were looking for a Squirtle and as soon as we found it, we alerted other guys about it too. It is a cool thing to see just how many people will come out and play, and hangout cause of one game.

I was JUST thinking the same thing! It's not just another game like flappy bird or candy crush. I'm amazed at the enthusiasm people put into this game. Where some people think, "just get a Gameboy emulator and play the old games", they're not thinking about this app's full potential. Here's what I think gives this app so much potential.
1) Popularity: Pokemon started when i was a kid and is still going today. We bought the cards and pretended we were actual trainers battling other people. This app brings back nostalgia and this is currently the closest thing you can get to "becoming" an actual trainer. It's still imaginary, but people are ACTUALLY getting off their a**es and walking around to find digital animals. And the Pokémon motto keeps users interested for awhile because we "gotta catch them all!"
2) Fitness: We've all heard of our childhood obesity epidemic. Kids eat a ton of junk food and are glued to their seats at home watching TV, stuck on their tablets, playing video games and twiddling their thumbs (like playing Pokémon on handheld console). I barely recognize the days when kids went out to play, like most of us did. If i were to choose for my kid to play this Pokémon Go app vs Pokémon on Gameboy, I'd choose Pokémon Go. So many friends are posting how good of a workout they had running around looking for Pokémon. Imagine to get the legendary Pokémon, you'd have to hike to the top of a mountain to catch it. You can actually get a normally lazy couch potato who plays games to hike up a mountain. And why? Because they gotta catch them all.
3) Bonding: As black ramm stated, friends and strangers run with and into each other to find Pokémon. Seriously, people can start relationships this way. "Hey, you're looking for Pikachu too? Let's help each other out!" Boom, ice breaker. Or with families trying to do something together that's virtually (pun ^_^) free! "Kids wanna go hiking?" "Nah, we'll pass" OR "Kids, wanna go up a mountain and catch Moltres?" I really can't believe i typed this much in a comments section but this is what i think about the app. Not just another mobile game.

This!

For many, it's the last straw. Your phone is supposed to keep you connected, but does W10M deliver on that when there's no Snapchat, Pokémon, Bumble, official Hangouts, etc? Or even local transit apps with train/bus GPS info?
Like it or not, we're excluded, and W10 won't help close the app gap because it's the mobile segment that really matters.

For some you mean. Man I would feel stupid when I did. People who do sure must have low priorities in life. NOFI.

I left Windows Phone because it didn`t had: Decent photo editing app like Snapseed, SKRWT and VSCO. Custom keyboard. I used to had Swift Keyboard before, and it was too good to be forgotten. I know, that Windows Phone offers swype, but not in my language, and also it can`t resize the keyboard. Few of apps I really use: my bank app, Waze is outdated, Portal (from Pushbullet), Pinterest, 9GAG, Cardboard and a lot of games (I like to play) Support for my Bluetooth controller I am sorry, but looks like Windows Phone doesn`t have a future. I believed it for a long time, but one can believe for so long. I know, that Windows 10 is trying to change that, but I will use OS because of the things it can do right now, not to inflate OS user base, so maybe someone will make something half-baked for it when that particular thing won`t be relevant on the other platform anymore. There are a lot of good things in WP that I miss, for example - MetroTube and Tubecast are, hands down - the best YouTube experience on any platform for background playback and just audio playback for one. Lumia Camera was the best Camera app there. But for too long I tried to justify things it couldn`t do with those small achievements it scored. I don`t hate WP, I just moved to much more capable platform. I am still following WP news and articles, hoping to see great changes, and yet nothing. Don`t hate the player (me), hate the game.    

One more thing - it`s awkward to rate and say, that one particular app would not change your mind in favor of the other platform. I can honestly say, that, for example, Snapseed has become such great part of my photographic experience, that that is one of the main reasons I wouldn`t change my phone.  

YES. even before the launch i've expressed myself last year that if pkmnGO has slim to no chance of geting into WP platform, i'm gonna switch for good. it IS the last straw. i've been a fan of WP since it's WP7 days, and i still hold on to it despite being too behind from other platforms. but WM is too sluggish to catch up. and i'm starting to believe that this isn't really one of msft's core priority. i even doubt that surface phone would dramatically improve WM's status. it no longer excites me.   and to those people who can never understand pkmn... shush, honey! just. shush. you know nothing. if pkmon IS a fad, it would've not lasted for more than 2 decades.   to each his own. do your thing, and we'll do ours.

I'm after the PGS myself, which I will use for Pokémon Go. I'll still be keeping my Lumia 950 but the PGS could become my main phone. I also get bullied constantly for preferring Windows phone and told it's impossible to prefer Windows phone.

Would I leave for only Pokemon? No, cause I don't play many mobile games. But I would leave due to other apps that are missing. But instead of leaving, I just use an old iPhone 5 for any apps that I don't have. Sure I have to carry 2 phones, but it's not too bad. I love Windows UI, and the native apps ie. Groove, Office, and the likes. The UI and better native MS apps are really the only reason I'm still staying on the platform.

I'm leaving Windows Phone as soon as I need a new phone. Not because of Pokemon Go. But It is the latest in a LONG line of games & apps we don't have, and I'm just plain fed up with it. That, combined with the fact that Verizon doesn't have a current Windows 10 Phone (just old, mid to low-end Windows 8 models with an upgrade) means I'm out. I'm not switching carriers just to have Windows 10. I've been with Windows Phone since it launched with the HTC Trophy WP7. I've since had a Lumia 822 and a 928. I believed in Windows Phone. I never thought it would beat iPhone or Android, but I thought it would at least live along side the other two. But instead it's dying. You have written articles saying it's not. But what about Verizon's increasingly dwindling support (I never even got WP8.1 update 2, let alone Windows 10, on my 928)? Or even Microsofts dwindling support. Where's all the Xbox games? Where's the advertising? This was meant to integrate with everything Microsoft including my Xbox. WP8.1 never got the current Xbox app. Xbox One Smartglass stopped notifying me a month or two ago. WP8.1 stopped backing-up to OneDrive over a year ago. The few games I used to play I've since stopped playing because they stopped getting updates from the developers and aren't even in step with the Facebook versions, let alone the iPhone & Android versions. iPhone & Android versions of Microsoft published apps get released and updated BEFORE the Windows Phone versions. Mark my words; Windows Phone will go the way of Blackberry and the older Windows Mobile and be a business phone; if it doesn't die like Palm first.

You've stayed this long... now you're at the last hurdle and you're leaving?!?!!

I would have left at least a year ago but my 928 still works, I don't want to leave; I want Windows Phone to get good like it was at launch, and I'm disabled without income so I can't just get a new phone whenever I want. I need my 928 to die or become unusable before I can justify any new phone since Verizon has done away with sudsidized 2-year contracts. Plus I'm saving $15 a month on my plan since I'm out-of-contract and was eligible for a new phone before they got rid of contracts.

I'm in a similar boat in re: Phone options - waiting for something to warrant a new phone, out of contact - so a lovely cheap monthly fee... And I'll never go back to getting a phone with contact (complete rip off)!!
Anyway, my comment is simply that you're on the cusp of getting what you want - just see how many apps have suddenly appeared in recent weeks/months.
The UWP's >340million users is too irresistible for any sane developer - and user numbers will only increase. The coming months will see mass desktop upgrades (free deal ends this month), XBOX one and a push for W10M upgrade... most users don't even know about it yet. Hopefully after anniversary update I hope Microsoft will do some cross platform promo of it's availability. If you like the platform stay, if you don't - leave, but having faith/support as long as you have I'm surprised you'd jump ship now.

Come on guys who really want this game?

Hell no!

WC is going drama queen. It's just a game. LOL.

First, I have a Lumia 950XL.  I would hope that people who spend money on expensive phones have better things to do, in their daily lives than to spend time with Pokeman or whatever; but I will have to check with Presidential Candidate Herman Caine, who was the first presidential candidate to QUOTE Pokemon on a national stage.  

If I wasn't already on Windows, I would probably switch TO it to get away from this kind of sh*te. This is the kind of #AppGap I couldn't care less about.

I personally wouldn't leave because I cant play Pokémon go on my windows mobile. However, for many this is the straw that breaks the camels back. It's not just about this app, every time a new and popular app is released windows mobile users are left feeling like they're missing out and i understand why they leave

If that is done by someone I would consider it as the dumbest thing I've seen Posted via the Windows Central App for Android

Don't you guys think it's remarkable how many of our users, although not abandoning W10M, but GO BACK to their old android phones or even BUY A SECOND android phone just to play THIS game? Imagine if Windows Phone had a single app that was sooo good that it would bring people to buy Windows as their second phone

I will not but I am happy what it is doing for the people of the US.  Alot of people don't exercise enought this really helps them get up and move.  Now what would be awesome to see is MS invest in this company for some API tie in with the band 2 (it has gps) and allow you to grab (or whatever you do) a pokemon via your wrist.  a intern talked to me about this for 15 mins and he said during his 8hrs here he wouldn't leave the building now he does daily mind you it is 90+ degrees here.  

I would never leave for this reason, but I might leave because a car I really want only supports android and ios for remote starting and other features.

I would never leave win10 over a game or app. I honestly don't care for this pokemon thing and never have, but I do see how people feel left out.

Yes, definitely.
Already compromise for so many games and apps. I am huge fan of Pokémon and this time never compromise. Just waiting for this game to launch in India. May be my next phn will be iPhone.

Richard, comparing Pokemon GO to Angry Birds really doesn't make sense. Also everyone who dismisses this game as a fad because of nostalgia have no clue why the Pokemon games are so popular. There's a reason why Nintendo keeps releasing new Pokemon games until this day. The mix of RPG elements of becoming stronger, the collection craze that brings out the OCD in all of us, and the social aspect (competition, trading, fighting) makes these games really addictive and last for a long time. For me personally Pokemon GO is not the sole reason to switch to Android. But it is part of the reason why I'm considering switching. It's this app, apps from franchises that I frequent, app from the airliner that I often use, and possibly Wallet if the Lumia 640 won't be supported in the near future that make me consider switching to Android. I'm holding off on that until after the Anniversary Update to see if Microsoft really (and succesfully) refocusses on mobile. And we might get an official word of Niantic in the mean while about their thoughts on W10M. If not, I'm getting at the very least a cheap Android phone as a secondary or my Lumia may become my secondary..

I know this is Pokemon but I seriously don't see 90% still playing this in a few weeks. Already seen a few people drop off already.

U kidding me ? Right?

I have a 3DS for my portable Nintendo fix...and quite frankly Hyrule Warriors Legends is keeping me too busy for any phone games. If it comes out I'll get it. If not, not the end of the world. Frankly, Nintendo and Microsoft tend to get along well, so I don't think it's completely out of the question.

Of course not. But I could consider leaving if it was something I really wanted and needed. Like a bank app or other payment solution.

what isn't available in WM might HAVE BEEN available in other platforms years ago. go look it up! why still hold on to WM?

Because the OS is beautiful and unique?

Yet another thing I cannot do that all my friends are doing... But that isn't why I'm about to leave. Edge on mobile/icon/verizon is awful. I can't vote on here... I can't even click view results... I had to refresh three times to allow typing to start. I'm tired of not being able to do basic functional browsing and messaging. Keyboard disappearing and having to close and reopen messenger. Bluetooth connection stopping and the only fix is a phone reboot. A Facebook app that gets updated but I still can't approve timeline or reply to replies let some different like options. I just want it to work. I like the OS and I'm practically a fanboy... But I'm tired of over a year of testing, playing with updates, and reinstalling, waking up to a failed update(my choice to be an insider). I have stayed because I wonder if it's the testing OS, the now old phone, and just maybe the next high end phone will be the answer. I'm just tired of waiting and wasted hope. And yet again, with this game, this phone and I are the butt of the jokes. I don't know if I can hold out to the still not even confirmed Surface Phone.

Will let Pokémon go.....

Here's my answer: Heeeeelllll nooooooo

I wouldn't bother with playing this game because there are reports of people getting there information stolen through this game and there being tracked too

No way , but if alot of Nintendo titles skip windows phone why should any Nintendo fan stay with WP ? Posted via the Windows Central App for Android

I would, if there was a better system.

If someone has a normal/low budget windows phone, buying new android phone while abandoning the first one is totally pointless. If a person can: keeping 2 phones, one as primary, is the best option in my opinion.

I'm considering getting a second phone to play it - a cheap Android that can just go off of my 950XL's hotspot so I don't have to buy a second data plan. If the game ends up having staying power (which it probably will, given Ingress's success and the fact that it's POKEMON) then that'll get really annoying long-term. I didn't sink this much into a phone to get rid of it over one game, but the annoyance of having to carry two devices would be something that I'd have to consider when my Lumia starts to die. Of course, that'll be in a couple of years and by then we'll likely either have a proper app or Windows on phones will really be dead, so.

TBH i don't care at this point. I've been with WP since before Amber and I loved the OS. But W10M has somehow managed to kill my interest. However given MSFT's track record of screwing things up every other major release I think I'll stick around for 10's successor. Hopefully that 'idiot' Nadella will be long gone by then.

Bye Pokemon.

Even as a gamer I don't understand the Pokemon crazy nor will I likley ever. So no, I wouldn't leave a platform for this game. But, it just so happens I'm leaving WP for all the other reasons. I've only owned Windows Phones since Windows Mobile 6.0. This Fall I will be moving to a Galaxy Note 7 most likely and I'm looking forward to having all the things (aside Pokemon) that I've never had on a WP.

No way.

No.
Nuff said.

How many Pokémon articles do we need ?

I already left windows phone due to the app gap. I needed banking apps and perfer using the apps instead of mobile apps. I also like that lots of the apps I can just use my finger print to access my banking information. Games are just games, but it is nice now that I don't have to worry about if it will come to the platform I am on. (both ios and android). I got fed up after windows phone 8.1 had no traction with apps. The universal apps are a great idea but unfortuately Windows Phone/MObile is only good for checking your email, text, phone, edge browser and a limited amount of apps. That doesn't work for me.

Not the reason I sold my 950xl though I find pokemon go to be pretty neat. I left because of lack of proper apps for my industry (real estate), unrealiable stability, and the fact that cortana works just as well for me on android. I picked up a blackberry priv off of ebay. Good and reliable preformance, apps (which i find i do use much to my own shegrin), a phisical keyboard (which is why the priv over say a moto or nexus) and while I do miss a good many things from windows phone the fact that things just work on the priv really is worth the trade off. I might be back but its not looking good. Even my mom tossed aside her 830 for a moto g and she is very happy as well.

I personally would not leave wp for pokemon go. And I am not really interested in pokemon go anyway, I think the old fusion way is much better and much more fun. And leaving an OS just because of a game is dumb anyway.

My wife and I did, kinda. We've been WP users since the days of the Samsung Focus and HTC Trophy, and currently have an 830 and 950. However, we just bought a pair of cheap Android phones to serve as backups and Go devices, with the intent of also piloting Android for a potential switch later this year. At this point, there's no reason for us to stick with WP

Well, if somebody wants to leave windows phone there are lots of other reasons for it over this game

It's not that serious at all Pokémon was big 13 years ago when I was in high school...i could care less about it now

That is perspective and if anyone leaves everything that's great about Windows 10 for a game, then they should have left long time ago. I guess that's why I'm married 16 years, I know how to sacrifice.

Rather, would I switch TO W10M, when it's lacking Pokemon Go? Nope.

I did Posted via the Windows Central App for Android

I wouldn't change my main phone, ever, for any app or game. I use Windows 10 Mobile because it's what suits me best right now.
This^

I wouldn't switch platforms for a game. Games come and go. The thing that has been bugging me is the lost of major features. Features that helped defined the mobile platform. To be honest besides continuum, windows phones are bare bones. And that's the truth. We have live tiles and continuum. That's it. That's all we have.

I was born a Microsoft fan like my dad, and I'm dying a Microsoft fan.
I had a conversation with one of Norway's biggest market, FINN.no. I requested an app so that I receive notifications instead of using the browser. The reply was so cold that makes you think the devices are terrible. Turns out many users just hate the word Windows or even find it so last year. It's not fashion you know. Ask imperia developers they changed their minds just using the store.

I don't care about Pokemon nor Nutella. I only care about my Windows Phone.

Microsoft has missed the boat. It sailed. Without having that base of teens and kids it will never be a prominent phone. It will stay 2nd class. I had a windows10 phone running fast ring on a lumia 928 from verizon. I liked it a lot. My wife and kids liked it. But with both of them heading off to college and the apps the universities have why would you want a windows phone. So with all this I decide to switch to AT&T to be able to get the 950xl at least for me and the wife. Kids where heading to android. But here we go again and you could only get the 950. You would gave to pay 600 bucks up front to Microsoft to get the xl. Thats 1200 bucks for 2 phones because you could not get them on a monthly plan. Hello android. So now we all have gallaxy s6 edge phones and all the apps. Microsoft strategy is totally screwed up. And you can bet all microsoft engineers and there kids have either iphones or androids. There not telling there kids they have to use a windows phone. Yes we adults can do without snapchat or Pokemon but the real market is kids and teens. Without that market windows phone falls on its face. It's not about adults or tech heads. It is marketing to the group that is using snapchat and all the other apps and games. I am a techie myself and i work for a university and i can tell you we are not writing apps for windows phone when you can't find but 2 on your network. Sorry. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android

No. I am on windows precisely for that reason...it works for me. Pokémon has absolutely no influence over said functionality. Windows still works for me... ~middle age guy

I didn't by a Motorola Nexus 6 last week for Pokémon GO but I did for several other reasons. I did share my experience on the Verge's Microsoft tribe: http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/10/12139108/from-lumia-to-nexus-my-story But a long story short it boils down to this: If Android 6.0.1 can run just as smooth (if not smoother) on 2 year old hardware (The Nexus 6 came out in 2014) as Windows 10 Mobile on a Lumia 950xl, then it means Android optimalization has come a very long way. The apps are better (even Microsofts own ones like OneDrive for example), and you get every great new app that's hitting the market, it's becoming a hard sell to advise Windows 10 Mobile to anyone. I love Windows 10 Mobile, absolutely. I would have loved to have my OS of choice to get all the apps other Mobile OS's get. But the fact is that I can't have it both ways. And stock Android really is great now a days. So I've switched to the Nexus 6 as my daily driver and though I still own a Lumia 950xl, I can't see me using it very often. Maybe I'll put insider build on it and tinker with it, but It won't be my daily driver untill Microsoft can get the developer support it so desperately needs.  

I know many people that put their phone higher priority but that's not the point.

Definitely, not! :)

Not only for Pokémon go but for CarPlay/AndroidAuto is one of the big reasons I would leave.

Just for one game definitely not. However there are a lot of apps, games and features on other platforms that could make me do the jump.

As others have stated, this was just the last straw... I really like Windows Mobile interface, but they have continually removed features (me tile, hubs), lost a lot of stability between 8 and 10, the lack of other apps that I would use (bank, rewards apps, etc...), no new phone on Verizon.
A big one was the loss of Here Drive. Maps is a nice replacement, but I used to just put Drive on with no need to input directions (on the android phone I used to try T-Mobile, tried out the maps and just have to hit "Start Driving" to get what I want).
I didn't think I would go back to Android, but when I noticed the Moto G in the Best Buy ad for $199 with $50 gift card (making it $150), I decided to jump over and will be picking it up tomorrow.

Already swtiched since the relase 950/XL.  Will return once MS get their **** together.  Been with MS since WIN7 premier.  Tired of waiting.

Yes would totally leave it.. Fed up of second hand treatment!!

No... No... No.. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android.. But waiting for the HP Elite so I can get rid of this junkie Galaxy S5...

Nope.

Not one game and one app but many games and many apps are missing. And unfortunately many hv left and are leaving. There is no clear roadmap and no assurance from either Nadella or top level authority. They need to take biggest steps not just one platform, windows10, blah blah blah....or just accept the defeat and declare the mobile platform dead.

Not for pokemon but don't know how much time i can hold that empty glass in my open arm started to pain.

This isn't the first craze we've been left out of and it won't be the last

That's the point, it's a straw thing. The last straw will be different for each person but eventually an app they really need or a game they really want to play will be out there. Maybe no one will drop their Lumia 950 because of a single game but maybe those on a two year old phone will get an Android or iPhone instead of waiting for a new flagship or going with the 950.  The message that the new hot app or game will not be on this platform has been repeated throughout WPs life. It's one of the big reasons the platform failed. It was Instagram, Snapchat, a few big games. Even if eventually these apps show up, it's long after the "craze" has died and no one cares. When your friends were all talking about it you didn't have it.  It's what killed WP so asking if anyone would really leave because of this one game? maybe not, but combined with other missing games and apps, this one game might be the last straw

"good guy Microsoft"? I like Windows Phone as much as anyone here but I would hardly call Microsoft good guys. Alot of their treatment from the rest of silicon valley is well deserved. Microsoft has simply screwed over too many people and too many companies and failed too many times to ever be invited to the party by anyone. It's also too old and too "establishment" to ever be one of the cool kids. As far as Pokemon goes, I'm just glad by the time it came out in the late 90's I was too old to fool around with cartoons and far more preoccupied with trying to lose my virginity.

This app will be replaced by bots soon anyway, right Windows Central?

Not in a million years, no. And if you DO leave you are perpetuating the problem.

Damm NO

Lol, no

See the bigger scenario, its not just about this game, many other popular titles are also missing one of favourite is real racing 3 nevertheless app situation is also not good, Snapchat is popular used by many, some may not like, but its a popular social platform among youngsters, moreover we aint even have Linkedln app and many others apps and the one which are available have less functionality although slowly coming at par thanks too porting like facebook apps but again perf., and feel is not so good, but I wont complaint again. Question is why developers support or market share, another fact is Microsoft's continous focus on investing into improvising of android and ios apps and we have none including skype, So having Windows Phone is a crime? We paid for it with value proposition decling day by day! If microsoft is interestd into other platforms making brand new apps like launchers why WP remains mystery. Im fan of WP my family owns 520, 640, 640xl and 550 my previous phone was 520.. All in these years I have heard next year will be bright and comming so all in all its a crime and pain being MS WP fan.

I'll leave if Pokemon Sun and Moon has any feature or task that require a iPhone or Android to complete. I hope NX has GPS and has its version of Go, and any future games on mobile.

To all of the whiners: Just go. No one is forcing you to stay. I'm beginning to think there are a bunch of masochists here and they just stay for the pain it causes them. Otherwise, what are you waiting for? Windows Mobile is what it is (and I like it as it is). It's not apt to change in the future, so there's no reason to keep hanging on to something thinking it's going to be something drastically different in the near future. It's like people marrying someone and thinking they will drastically change afterward. It doesn't happen. Life is too short to waste it agonizing over silly electronic devices and apps (none of which you will be using five years from now).

If Microsoft adopted the Xbox strategy for it's phone, that is to have exclusives, they would find people ditching android and iOS for win phones. So it doesn't surprise me when people ditch win phones for apps exclusive to other platforms. Unfortunately MS feels it's better to put it's mobile software (sometimes better) on others too. Making it easier to choose their phones over it's own.

This isn't a dumb question, my brother just did yesterday... Couldn't stop him, I had no argument! He is now iPhone, sorry guys :(

well, i do have 20+ working phones in my drawers. gonna flash the retired mi3 with cm13, and ride on the bandwagon and play PG until its boring. my 950 will always be in my pocket the entire time. the app gap does not only exist in one platform, it exists in all platforms (although really evident in windows) thats why i keep all the phones

I love pokemon but not enough to leave my 950. If I do wanna play I'd grab a iPhone 5/5s for snapchat and pokemon but again I'd get bored and sell it... so no use.

It makes no sense at all to leave my Windows 10 mobile phone for a game regardless of how popular it is on other platforms. I'm fully invested in the Microsoft ecosystem for a reason to stand out from the crowd. Didn't care about Pokémon twenty years ago as a freshman in high school and could care less today.

Microsoft should have kept the Android APK sideload

Not me.

What has that with enterprise in common, NOTHING ....LOL. #W10M will always be left alone..lol

No!

How is it possible that Pokemon is still a thing? they were huge in the 90's, but I didn't realize the millennials were into it as well. I don't know why you'd leave when you can just pick up a cheap Android Tablet and play.    

I really like this game. I'm planning on switching to windows when the surface phone comes out. It'll be tough to switch to windows 10 mobile if this game isn't on there by that time.

Hopefully the surface phone will make us forget what we are lacking...

There's a lot of ongoing reasons to leave the platform for most people, but one game isn't it.  Things Microsoft have been doing, or rather, not doing..is the main one.

As much of a fan of Pokémon that I am, I'm sticking with Windows! I have the main games on my Nintendo 3DS anyway. I did buy a cheapish Android tablet a while ago which I am playing Pokémon Go on anyway. So at least I have it. Not quite as enjoyable as having it on my phone.
I'm still disappointed though it's not on Windows 10, but I'm sticking with what I love. Screw Android and iPhone.

I think that most of windows mobile users are grown up and mature people, so leave the plataform just for a dumb game developed for kids would make us dumber.

Lol! That's ridiculous. No.

This game is pretty dumb. It's incredibly repetative. Plus I don't think it will be long before kids decide it's not worth walking aimlessly around the neighborhood just to catch a pokemon that they probably have already caught several time. They would need to add a whole lot more features to this game to keep the craze going.  Now snapchat has been adding a bunch of features and it looks like it will be a social media fixture for some time. Don't get why snapchat won't add a windows 10 app. I'm sure plenty of its users would like to use the app on a computer. You can't take pictures, but you can browse though your friends uploads.

I don't think people would leave Windows Phone only for Pokémon Go, however it is a major straw on the camels back. In our household is was the final factor. We had 7 1520s in our family. In November we replaced 1 phone with an Android. I also added an Android as a 2nd device. Main reasons were support for the readily available robotics tools including Lego Mindstorm. Lack of Amazon Prime, lack of restaurant apps for Starbucks, Taco Bell, etc. The games started to become a factor and people were on the fence. As of Friday when the rest of the family upgraded. I have the only Windows Phone which I use for work it not much else.

I didnt leave Windows Phone for SnapChat so i deffinitly wont leave it cause of some game for kids.

Thinking about it. But then again I don't want to get an app that can kill you if your not wary of your surroundings.

I'm staying on Windows Phone/Mobile until I absolutely have to switch. (Actually, I'm gonna switch when my 2-year contract is up in 2018.) Until then, I am considering buying a cheap Android mobile device to play it on. Does it work on WiFi? And until THAT, I'll just hope that Niantic brings it to WM10. :/

They'll release Pokemon go by the time the game sucks

I grew up on Nintendo. I was never into Pokemon, but if Nintendo continues making mobile games for iOS/Android, I may consider it. It just depends on what's next from them. I've been a fan of Windows Phone since day 1 though, so I know by now not to expect the latest app craze to make it to my phone.

This is what I did when Clash Of Clans are nowhere to find in Windows platform. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android

I like how Windows Phone (or Windows 10 Mobile) works. I'm used to it. I'm comfortable with it. It does what I want it to do. I miss a few apps but not enough to make a difference.

Nope. It's just a game at the end of the day and doesn't justify buying a new phone for. If you turn off the AR mode in Pokémon Go (which is a gimmick) the game is suddenly very boring and gets repetitive, fast.

No.

Ah, I pretty much left Windows Phone for other stuff...Like My banking app, Investment apps, Tap to pay and a few other minor apps that I have always wanted. Leaving for a game ?  Maybe it's me but, I am known to buy a $300 console for a single game, I did a few times in my gaming years. Now that I am on another platform 85% of the time, I guess I can check this game out. If you just want the OS for stuff, Windows Phone is awesome but, if you want to open apps, Windows Phone sucks.. Sigh.... Once you become dependant on Tap to pay and a hanfull of important apps, It's hard to go back to Windows Phone...

No, I like baseball more than Pokemon, and I didn't leave with MLB.TV. I'm not especially app driven, so I'll be fine. Sure, sharing experiences with peers is nice, but I'm not going to make 90% of my time on my phone worse for a superior 10%.

Nope won't do it.. I just don't care for other OS.

I thought all those on the insider program were pretty much catching bugs too?  Isn't that essentially the same? ;)

No. I don't care about apps much, especially Pokemon.  Never liked it as a kid and still don't like it now.

No chance I'd leave

It's just a game.

Off course

No but doesn't help

Coming soon the alternative game, Digimon Go by Rudy Huyn.

What am 12! For a game.

Would I ever drop Windows 10 for Pokemon Go? Absolutely not! That's too stupid of a reason to let go of a Windows 10 deivce. Seriously...

Now people can perhaps understand to some extent what it feels like to be a Windows user in the Netherlands. We have this sort of stuff all the time...

for pokemon!? HELL NO.

just for a game i am not going to change my phone, never liked pokemon before and seeing people getting crazy is not going to make me miss it.. it is just a game not a lifestyle its not like if i am not playing pokemon the society will not accept me now about snapchat, i saw people missing it badly crying out so lound on forums that my laptop speaker broke...so i thought i too should use this app.... i made my mind to check out what lifestyle feature i am missing from my life which makes non snapchat users miserable ... so i borrowed an Android and then an iPhone from my friend to have that amazing lifetime experience and turning into a unicorn by using snapchat... it turned out the app comes with UGLY UX and UGLY UI ... may be at 29 i am too old to understand 'MODERN app trends'..may be i am not so smart of using a chat client.. but kids you deserve better app experience...

I am 50/50 over leaving WM. I love the platform, it's great, does what I want it to do. I wouldn't leave over the lack or a game or an app but the platform isn't getting enough love from MS or developers. Islandwood et al has failed to bring over the developers and frankly I think this platform is failing badly. If nothing drastic happens within the next year then I'll probably jump on the droid boat - I could never join the fruit.

The problem is another, is the microsoft ecosystem that attract less developers
Pc+tablet+xbox+phones entirely And Nadella is doing his best to bash windows (see all ms new apps for ios, iphone pro etc, plus apple and google paying developers to have exclusives on their platforms eg. Beat music, songza, waze, vevo etc..) Nadella is moving ms to a cloud company only and mobile, yes, for mobile see apple and google)

Things like this keep adding up, it's a combination of problems, not just 1 game, and for many Pokemon GO will be the last issue they want to endure, it's pretty simple to understand but i know that you had to do this post, it's your work after all.

i wouldn't say it would be the sole reason but would put the nail in the coffin for some ppl.

Already left. I'm tired of being stopped in time. It has been good while it last!

I wouldn't switch JUST for this game. I've always been a MTG player and Pokemon is fun and all, but added up with EVERYTHING else. I can't get a new premium phone on the only carrier that works decently where I live, banking apps, games, communications. Everything I use day to day works and works fine on a 3 year old phone (Nokia L928). BUT (notice that but is big), anything outside of day to day stuff, any of the handy to have, or fun to have is non-existent. I see my wife struggle with her G7 with reception, and reboots, but then watch her phone deposit a check, and use discord, and facebook works, maps still work (don't get me started on what ever happened with here in the last 6-10 months.. it was AWESOME, now.. barely usable.. ). I LOVE the interface, the reliability, the ease of use, the build quality, recption, but it's just missing so much. I'm not sure how much longer I can hold out.

Windows phone is alteady dead with this app or without

I won't leave because of this game, but I will leave soon due to the system being ugly, lack of features, and of course lack of apps. **** windows phone for wasting my time and money.

No, but I already left anyway.

Never got windows 10 for my lumia1020 in the first place. So, why wouldn't I switch?

Next mobile phone that get my attention will be getting tlris of this Lumina 950xl,I feel that there is zero support base on customer review and my experience with Microsoft.

So long, Windows 10 Mobile!
...maybe if I keep saying that an android phone will appear

My first ever smartphone and it is a windows phone. I still regret the moment when I decided to have a this one instead of an android. Just trying to sell the phone and buy a new android, so that I can use every feature and app of the smartphone world.

Already started looking for new Android mobile ........bcoz i don't think windows can bring famous games on their platform

Not the only reason I left.  i owned a zune too.  Do people not remember last time Microsoft tried to take on the handheld world?  Same signs happening again.  Dwindling market shares, clunky unreliable OS that no app developer wants to look at through a telescope.  Im leaving this sinking ship.  Ive already fallen 2 yeqars behind trying to make it work.  Restarting the phone twice a day because Groove wont work right shouldnt be a thing on a "Final" build.  Also all the broken promises of more popular apps.  They got Candy Crush 2 years almost after I and A devices.  Not to mention all the knockoff apps that make Windows's numbers in the store look better.  What turns people away is when they look for the apps they like (almost any of them) and shocker...... none found in the store.  Rince, repeat, cash the check till abandoning the progect as a failure.  Heres looking at you Zune 2.0 I mean windows phone

Nope, i love Windows. 

I'm fascinated by Pokémon Go, but I'm not sure if I would play it very much if I had it. Other things are really starting to bother me though, like not being able to turn on my lights, adjust my thermostat, change the sprinkler schedule, edit my IFTTT recipes, see how much money is on my Starbucks card, or clip grocery coupons. I can't even look at websites without being barraged with ads, and Edge constantly reloads pages while I'm trying to read them.

I brought a windows phone because i had high hopes on PROJECT ASTORIA but since they cancelled it i dont want windows phone and i want the PERSON who killed project astoria DEAD.

"This isn't the first craze we've been left out of and it won't be the last, I'm sure."   Yup, exactly. It's not about leaving Windows for a single app, it's about leaving windows for yet another app. Time to move on.

Yes I would leave all this **** not for one game, for all the apps that I wish I can download it on my windows like IOS or Android

Absolutely yes bro

Here is more serious reasons why you should leave Windows Phone, then Pokemon GO

People here are gonna hate me for this, but if Pokémon GO doesn't come to Windows 10, I will switch to iOS. I'm not going back to Android. Been there, just doesn't seem as good as iOS or Windows in my opinion. But the main reason is that I am sick and tired of good/official apps being pulled from the Store, not being updated anymore and developers rejecting us. I've had enough. I will stick with Windows for my PC, but mobile? I will be switching to iOS when my contract is done. I've used iOS, and its quite nice. I really don't want to switch because I have loved Windows Phone for a while now, but I've started to like it less and less now since apps are not being put on the store, apps no longer being updated and apps being pulled from the store. That's only if Pokémon GO doesn't come to Windows. It may sound stupid, I know, but I'm the only in my family who doesn't have it. I've reached my limit here. And like I said many times already, if Pokémon GO doesn't come to Windows, my patience will snap. Sorry, but that is my choice.

Yes, I am preparing to leave. I just got a new phone too! I am going to be discussing with Verizon my options for switching out. This is one of the most popular apps of all time and Windows needs to recognize that not having it is a platform killer. 

yes. me and my wife actually did it yesterday. i'm an old windows phone user fan. since 920. but yesterday i said it's enough. there is no more excuse. we boxed our lumia 640 xls, put them in closet and left home to buy new phones. we both got honor 5x and it's an amazing phone. it was not just because of pokemon go. OS is slow as hell, full of bugs, it's been a year and it still can't switch properly between 2 apps, telegram messenger, the most popular messenger in iran is the worst app i've ever used and apps are not coming. are leaving. satya really killed Windows mobile and phone. we couldn't take it anymore. 2 years ago i made lot's of people switch to windows platform and they all blame me for this. enough is enough.  i've left after 4 years and i'm not going to get back again. they had the money to make every developer making apps for them. it would be profitable for them after some years. but they scrwed us. even their own apps on android are far better than what i've seen in windows mobile. yes. we have left. there are more people leaving everyday. all the people i knew are going for android and IOS. and that's because nobody cared about us in Microsoft. they just left us with an unfinished os, full of bugs, slow and with no apps. 

Yes,I'll leave because Microsoft is disable

Leaving the best platform i.e. Windows just for an game it's a bullshit..

tried ansewing this onm my windows phone, 1minute for the site to load and me to log in and then after filling in a comment it stops responding, windows central website has always been bad loadign on any of my devices for example 3-4 seconds on a desktop with a i7 and its been like that since ive come here:((.  it really needs to be looked at unless its becasue im useing internet explorer, but im not haveing those issues anywhere else. I dont think the wquestion is will people leave windows 10 because of pokimon, i think the question is how long will it be before you leave windows mobile.  Most of use left love this platform but there is no denying the eco system, the app store is in a terrible state, not only do have have important apps missing that alot of people use but now we also see apps leaving.  ofcourse pkimon go will effect windows 10 mobile , i hear the argument itas only a game or a fad, yeh a fad most iphone and android users har into and one we windows mobile users cant, its that simple.  But for me personall(yeh id play it) the biger issues are things like still not got gest=ures from mobile 8.1 on my windows 10 device, no paypal is definatly the bigest issue i have had win my mobile phone and to be fair all it would take now is 1 more major app like netflix or plex, to leave and id have no choice but to follow.  Its that close now because somehting big like paypal has left.  No i dont want to use the web site, no i dont want to create a shortcut to my live tiles, i want the app back.  As much as id like pokimon i tihnk microsoft need to get paypal back, that will cost them more people and also created a biger app gap than say pokimon would.  windows store for games is awful, 1 game missing from that isnt gona change that fact.

Not just for Pokemon Go, but everything that WP can't get. Most apps keep abandoning the platform anyways. The only perk was Xbox Live games & that's fell out anymore. Microsoft wants to lose it's customers apparently.....

Yup.I have my second device picked up and I'm giving it till the end of the year. It's the turning point really.If MS doesn't succeed in giving us this game as well, it is the end of the mobile platform. I'm not exagerating, we have none of the good apps or games the other platforms enjoy. Is it functional?Yes, but if I wanted just to call and send sms I'd stick to a non smartphone, I won't pay the price of a device that won't offer me everything I want when I can get a similar one with all the apps. It's not just snapchat and all the games, it's all the apps that will never come to MS because the company doesn't matter.We're too low a percentage for everyone else.

Remember this is just his opinion

Nianatic is owned by them but is certainly, as with consoles, being paid to slowly update or not support platforms. It's silly to assume otherwise

No

I already left Win10 Mo when the apps I use for work (MSFT apps no less), works better on iOS than on the Lumias! It's dead to me. 

No, I won't.

The thing is not only about the pokemon go game,but windows also lacks a lot of useful apps.Windows users are not up-to-date because of the lack of apps availability.Windows users should not be left to compromise.MS should improve the range of apps in WinStore and keep the old ones updated like other OSs.

Uselesswithoutpokemongo

 Microsoft staff play Hololens Pokémon Go? is that true or not?

nope but i have left for paypasl, myfitnespal and here maps.  ill come back if the app gap is sorted but its goten biger in 2016