HTC's first octa-core 64-bit smartphone is on the way

HTC's next smartphone might surprise us with some high-powered specs. In a post on Chinese microblogging site Weibo, HTC says that they will have the world's first octa-core 64-bit smartphone. The current HTC flagship, the One M8 (available in both Android and Windows Phone flavors) packs a Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 processor, a 32-bit chip with a measly four cores clocked at 2.3Ghz. An eight-core 64-bit chip? That would be new.

HTC's not saying which phone will see this new chip, or even which chip we'd be seeing in said phone. Qualcomm has started production on multiple 64-bit 8-core chips, including the mid-range Snapdragon 615. The higher-powered Snapdragon 808 and 810 aren't expected until later this year. All use the ARM big.LITTLE format (four high-power cores for the heavy lifting and four low-power cores for mundane work).

For what it's worth, the corner render of the phone in HTC's teaser also seems like it might be mid-tier as well. It's clearly HTC design, but there might be something plasticky to it. We'll see soon enough, we suppose. What do you think?

Source: HTC (Weibo)

Derek Kessler is Special Projects Manager for Mobile Nations. He's been writing about tech since 2009, has far more phones than is considered humane, still carries a torch for Palm, and got a Tesla because it was the biggest gadget he could find. You can follow him on Twitter at @derekakessler.

237 Comments
  • If it comes it'll be almost like a revolution in mobile industry.....
  • Why exactly?
  • Sure maybe for android...highly doubt this would come to WP.
  • Sure it will.
  • It's Android Absolutely. Windows Phone even don't support SD805. You want big.Little and 64 bit ?
  • WP8.1 GDR2 will add support to SD805.
  • Well WP8.1 has multiple updates coming out before end of 2014 so it's totally possible that a future update will support 64 bit and octa-core setups.  WP8 was designed to be scalable to up to 64 cores, but of course updates would have to be applied to the OS as that hardware becomes available.  I like this idea of splitting the cores since phone apps don't have much need for octa-core access, except for maybe a camera or video editing app like Nokia's Pro Camera on the 1020 which is a heavy app that has a massive camera to draw power, which a dual-core SD CPU isn't really equipped to handle in quick-response situations. I wouldn't be surprised if HTC goes after the mid-range market to compete with the 600 and 700 series phones.  They could make a killing as those off-contract phones that are under $300 seem to be popular on the WP platform right now.  Introducing the HTC One M8 may change the tides though since that phone has good reviews already and has a footprint in the smartphone world already.
  • Android first for sure. Only on Windows if M8 does well.
  • Doubt it , they were definetly not revolutionary in any sense in the main stream PC world  , an even lesser chance they would be for phones.
  • Sure, and the battery will last 1 hour!!     Better battery technology is what manufacturers should be focusing on. If an app takes 0.1 sec. less to open doesn't really matter...    
  • Right, because battery life in the 64-bit iPhone 5s is so miserable.
  • And here I was thinking the iPhone 5S had a 64-bit dual-core processor. Wow didn't realize it has a 64-bit octa-core processor! It's revolutionary then that the iPhone 5S can run half-a-day of full use before charging!
  • Like Apple's 64-bit processor? That was more like a gimmick. Isn't the main purpose of going from 32bit to 64bit to accomodate for more than 3GB of RAM?
  • Exactly.  As software gets more bloated, you'll need the hardware to run it.  Personally, though, I find it ridiculous for a phone.
  • I'd argue that software has been getting LESS bloated for most of the past decade.  Windows Vista was kind of a turning point.  Not only have I seen every new release of Windows use less resources, but I feel I've seen that trend across most major software brands.
  • I've been developing software since the '70s.  Development tools today are designed primarily for fast development cycles, not necessarily efficient code.
  • No, there's more benefits to 64bit than just addressing more than 4GB of RAM. That's why the CPU in the iPhone 5S is one of the fastest (if not the fastest) for a phone. 
  • On it's own, a wider data path != more speed.
  • It's impressively fast for a dual core, but I don't know if you can really trust benchmarks. It can easily be cheated by manufacturers, and results vary based on what benchmark you're running. Both iPhone and Windows phones I believe don't have as many benchmark tests as Android.
  • No
  • Ram isn't the only thing you get from going 64bit. You also get more pipelines to use, etc....
  • I would say having a pc/laptop, tablet, and phone all running 64 bit operating systems would be quite revolutionary for Windows.
  • Will it be ok Windows at launch or just Android? They the question!
  • It wont revolutionize anything in my opinion. The S4 already had an octa core like this. The iPhone has the 64 bit processor. This phone will only put those two together.
  • Still, Android will lag and freeze... And have viruses malwares and other shit
  • Last time I used Android was on a Nexus 4 last year. It never froze or lagged. To be honest my Lumia 925 lags (resuming issue) and also freezes occasionally. I think the Android lag comment needs to be put to rest.
  • i have a lumia 925 and its super smooth never lags and never gives me the resuming issue. so yeah...
  • +925
  • I get the resuming issue a lot on my Lumia Icon. Posted via Windows Phone Central App
  • Agreed . Lets be honest . Android really doesn't freeze and lag much . My brother has a Oppo Android phone , 512Mb and dual core . Just like Lumia 620 , but it's smooth and the multitasking is good . No resuming and apps crashed problem that exist in Lumia 620 . Freeze ? Yes , the Android phone does freeze , but sometimes . Especially when you're using a launcher . Plus , Microsoft still has the 99 count tile limit . Which sometimes is quite annoying .
  • But why is it necessary to even have that much on your start screen?
  • I'm pretty sure I saw 100 on my nextgen reader tile..
  • Android lags because it keeps tasks in the memory that is why the multitasking is faster but the browsing of apps is slow because windows doesn't store them in the memory and that's why it resumes. So both os have their advantages and disadvantages.
  • I don't know about low end Android phones, but I haven't seen any Windows Phone come close to the speed of something like the Nexus 5 (especially when running ART). I've owned a Lumia 925, 1020 and 930 - my other half has a 1520. I'm a fan of WP, but none of them perform as well as a Nexus 5 and probably not even a Nexus 4 in terms of both speed and smoothness under thumb. I can only speak for myself, but as far as stock Android high end is concerned, it's been a few years now since I've felt WP to be a smoother and speedier OS.
  • Agreed, but Lawd could there ever be a more boring phone UI. Thank God there are launchers, but most of these aren't optimize for performance. So even with the Nexus you can get a glitchy experience if you want to jazz up the UI a little.
  • If you are using pure Android it will work better, the shined ones like touchWiz lag, the lighter the customization on it, the better the performance. That's why Windows phone works smooth, OEMs can't add their shit skins in top of it in order to make it lag.
  • Nexus phones don't lag.
  • My old Verizon Nexus was nothing but lag amongst about five other problems including a crap antenna.
  • Nexus phones do lag my friend My Nexus 7(2013) does IMO Motorola is the new nexus coz my mom has a Moto E being having low specs it didn't lag even my friend's Moto X doesn't lag.Nexus 5 does lag.
  • I've had nexus 4, and 7 2012 I used the Moto x for a couple of months and I never had a problem with lag.
  • Erm... yes they do. If there's one thing android excels at, it's lag. Even the Nexus 5 lags quite a lot.
  • All the Nexus 5s at my work lag.
  • Of course Nexus 4 is not laggy because it is stock android...made for google...duhhh...
  • What's ur point? This way all WP phones...made for MS?
  • my GS4  lags and freezes very often whereas my 925 never did this. So dont even think about putting those lag comments to rest.
  • True. I have a Moto G as a second phone. It's cheap as shit and has no lags. Apps like Waze are smoother than on my L920, multitasking is faster and battery runs for 30h. Tho I still prefer WP in terms of user experience, Androids of today have none of the past problems. 
  • LOL Moto G with quad-core vs the 920 with dual core!
  • Well the discussion was about the misconception that cheap android phones are crap. I gave a counter example. Moto G is very cheap and still provides better performance than the Lumia 925/1020 which are considered high ends and they are still actively selling today. On my carrier the Lumia 1020 is almost 5x more expensive than the Moto G 4g. 
  • Leads to the question which is the larger client, Android or Windows?
  • Resuming issue?  Are you using the lock screen app?
  • Xbox music always resumes without having lock screen beta. Microsoft had put wp os to Shame.
  • No they don't. On my high end new Galaxy S5 on TMobile for work, I get too much typing lag for this new of a device.
  • Every Android lags, Android does a poor job of multitasking. The more apps you have on it, the more it lags. That's reason number one why I switched to windows. I can't stand the fact I can't even dial out or answer a call. All my damn androids would freeze.
  • That's the reason I left Android too. It would freeze even when writing a SMS.
  • +920. Android Lag arguments are greatly exaggerated.
  • The resuming thing is a bug not a lag. Also when people say they use Android ad a secondary device they tend to not abuse it with apps and programs like they would a primary phone. Load up a recent Android with all the apps your heart desires and watch the lag commence. Just swiping home screens takes longer than stock/barely used Droid does. Yes the lag isn't as blatant as it was back in the day but its definitely present. You get used to it after a while but once you try a new bare Droid you'll realize that it is present.
  • Actually I'm using the Android as my primary phone. I installed pretty much everything i have on the Windows phone (almost 90 apps installed). I've been using it for a month now. Although I am now considering switching the sim card back to the Lumia the reason is definetely not lag or poor performance. Maybe it's OEMs fault that some Androids starts to fail after a while. The number of bloatware they install is imense but as far as stock Androids are concerned I never heard any of my friends complaining.
  • Exactly. Calling Android "lagdroid" is kind of ignorant, unless you're using Android 2.2 Froyo or some old version. When WP fans see one high end Android phone lag, they call it "lag Droid." When I complain about my 925 lagging, they say it's just a bug or I need a hard reset.
  • Actually there is a technical reason for it. Until very recent and even not on all versions, Android does not implement TRIM so over time it gets slower and slower and the lag is more present.
  • Unfortunately I agree that "the laggy Droid" excuse not really accurate any more. I was testing out an old T-mobile my touch 4g (came out around HD7 days) running Droid and it ran pretty smooth I was switching between apps and it ran fine.and I'm sure they have only gotten better due to hardware and o.s updates.
  • My Sons Lumia 920 has led lag than many Galaxy S3s and 4's I see every day. The Nexus models trend to be better, but the Androids I see around me are still a laggy mess.
  • That's like talking about issues with Windows Vista. That was then, this is now.
  • Android lagged on Samsung galaxy s3 when I tried, but that's not to say that WP doesn't lag even on higher end phones. Resuming lag is really annoying sometimes, yes, but that is more app dependent than OS.
  • Dude Samsung is the shittest & cheapest Oem sorry to say that but Samsung's Galaxies spoil Androids name.Use a Moto E,G or X no lags whatsoever.
  • Samsung is what I used on Android and it was a piece of shit from build quality to performance, it ran ok for one day until I got a few apps installed that it started to lag even when I was writing an SMS. Also the support is crap, you get one updated, two at most and that's all. I had on one 1 Windows phone now updates than on 3 Android phones.
  • Idiot.
  • Considering your ability to see the future with such absolute certainty..... Could you please give me this week Lottery numbers?....
  • Yea if I were to go Droid it would be nexus, my old lady has a 5 and 1st and 2nd Gen 7, they run smooth for the most part but my windows phones runs circles around it still, but customizing and the options available are enticing
  • It's mostly Samsung and LG that lags because of their software. Those with little modification over the stock android don't lag. And although HTC sense is quite different from stock is not full of sh*t like touch wiz.
  • Really, that's the jab you still pull of to justify being a fan boy Jfk.
  • Does wp 8.1 support 64bit yet?
  • No
  • Uh... Why not? The kernel in wp8 has had support for 64 cores and 64-bit CPUs for many years now.
  • ⬆his
  • Why would you listen to a "cholo from hell"? They are the worst type of cholos when it come's to information.
  • Well you can run emulator on a 64 bit machine, so I don't see a reason it wouldn't run..
  • Now that would be revolutionary, your Windows Phone running Hyper-V, allowing the true use of separate operating systems for kids zone, work, and play!
  • Dude Wp OS ain't properly optimized for 2 gigs of ram & snapdragon 801 processor I'm sayin it because Lumia 1520 being a beast has the resuming issue of Xbox music having such raw power of Snapdragon 800 & 2gigs of ram.
  • That's and Xbox issues especially if ur using the lock screen beta app, Nokia music doesn't have that problem
  • That problem is due to the app.
  • It supported it the day Microsoft switched from the CE Kernel to the NT Kernel
  • Do I see a budding partnership between Microsoft and HTC?  If this comes here....
  • It kind of looks like HTC and Microsoft are getting cozy, but it would seem strange for that to happen after Microsoft bought Nokia's phone division. 
  • HTC and Microsoft have been cozy for a decade. HTC was the main OEM during the WM days.
  • Microsoft bought the devices side to help bolster and super their platform. The second the OEMs get their act together, they will stop producing hardware.
  • HTC is helping windows phone still its like a nice third party for them I allows HTC to do all the r&d while they focus on software more , devices under 7 in get free software, and HTC isn't a best seller with Droid, they might even try firefox before its all said and done,
  • You're seeing the rebudding. HTC is the reason WM was around for so long.
  • Had an HTC pure in 2009 :) good ol' stylus
  • Ready for it, bring it on.
  • If 64bit is coming. Well, ms could drop 32bit
  • Microsoft & the guys over there are dumbasses the Xbox music even lags(resuming) on L1520 being having so much power.Microsoft is always late in the race until wp9 doesn't come there will be no 64bit support or hardware for us.
  • So we will have octa core processors on phones before Intel decides to make one for PCs. Lol
  • One Intel core eats 10 ARM SOCs for breakfast.
  • No, you're kidding. Ofcourse it has to beat it. It's Intel dammit.
  • 8 core Intel Xeon already exists on PCs, but its more needed on a phone so that the phone can use the low four when off or browsing and high four when you play games or use a 41 MP camera and what not.
    Edit: And yeah, big difference between the two types of processors.
  • There are already octa core processors on phones from media tek (mtk). And a version of the S4 already has an octa core from exynos. 4 low clocked cores and 4 high clocked cores. I think the mtk ones have the 8 cores clocked at the same speed, but not sure.
  • Well, Huawei stops with Windows Phone. So, one down.
  • I phone 5s already has a 64 bit processor.
  • Nobody said anything to the contrary.
  • There are several phones with octa core around too.
    It's just the first time they'll come together on a phone.
  • Waiting for the day when phones are more powerful than PCs.
  • They already are in some cases. Depends on what you compare
  • Only if you compare today's phone with a 15 year old laptop.
  • Duh i have an Laptop with Intel i3 processor running at 2.0Ghz the Snapdragon 800 kicks my i3 variant Ass apart even the Galaxy note 4 launching on IFA has 4gb ram which my laptop has. Edit: My laptop is just 2yrs old.
  • And why does it kicks your laptop's ass ? Just because it's clocked higher and has more cores ?
    That doesn't matter at all. You just can't compare.
  • I think that you're having some kind issues with your PC if a Snapdragon can beat your Core i3.
  • That's one crappy laptop you got there!
  • Yeah my dad uses it i use it.Ma bad will maybe build a gaming pc next year.
  • Your laptop has faster RAM, a better processor, and likely faster storage.
  • Yeah, phones are nowhere near as powerful as a desktop/laptop. You'd have to be comparing a phone to some mighty old hardware to believe they are even in the same league.