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Ford is ditching Microsoft for Blackberry's QNX in future Sync in-vehicle systems

Ford is reportedly ditching Microsoft for Blackberry’s QNX platform in their integrated in-vehicle communications and entertainment system. According to Bloomberg, using QNX will be less expensive than licensing Microsoft technology and will improve the flexibility and speed of the next Sync system.

The decision hasn’t been made public yet, but sources close to the situation have told us the report is accurate.

Ford has more than 7 million vehicles on the road with Sync using Microsoft voice-activated software. According to Crackberry, Ford has had various issues with their MyFord and Sync systems over the last few years, bringing down their quality ratings and causing them to seek other options for their vehicle infotainment systems.

The QNX platform is already available in a wide variety of vehicles including Acura, Audi, BMW and Land Rover. They were at CES 2014 showing off their latest technology. You can watch it over here.

What are your thoughts on Ford switching to QNX? Let us know in the comments!

Via Bloomberg

Mark Guim is Video Editor at Windows Central. He switched to Windows because the MacBook Pro isn't Pro enough. You can follow him on Twitter at @markguim.

369 Comments
  • Woah...
  • It sounds like Microsoft blew it.  I mean, seriously... losing to BlackBerry.  That's got to be embarrassing.
  • It's not. QNX is really good.
  • QNX is no joke. This is not embarrassing.
  • Stop being a fanboy. QNX is better.
  • Wow, is it really necessary to start throwing out the fanboy accusations?
  • If you know the definition of what fanboys are, then you wouldn't have made that reply :|
  • Here maps if anything beside they never did anything cool with that Microsoft navigation
  • So Apple, Nokia, Google, And BB are going to have their technology in future vehicles.... What is MS doing❔❔... The future is in Mobile, and the auto industry is MOBILE❕❕.... So yes, they definitely blew it,,,, again.....
    .........................
    I'm beginning to not miss Balmer more, and more, everyday....
  • holy all you need are three periods to form an ellipses commas don't work the same way
  • I don't abide by your rules, son.. That brake looks as exactly I intended it too, boy!
  • Well, I will give you this, that's the only possible valid response to his post. And valid it most certainly is!
  • I agree completely. Posted via the WPC App for Android!
  • Lol they will be late in the game again.
  • You didn't read the article above? It said "Acura, Audi, BMW, and Land Rover." Doesn't sound like QNX is late to anything.
  • QNX is not a MS product. Think you miss read something. He meant that MS will be late to the game as always..
  • My mistake. Apologies.
  • Developers, developers, developers, DEVELOPERS!!!!
  • I'll miss that guy. At least he is still in the board.
  • Think its Ballmers doing.
  • Microsoft still has other partners and the auto division doesn't just make dashboard software. They'll be fine.
  • No... They didn't blow it.  This article leaves out quite a lot.  Apparently there are more than a few car companies using systems created by MS.  Kia/Hyundai are among them from what I can remember.  Fact of the matter is the system was slow, buggy, and had a steep learning curve.  Ford did the ill recommended by removing all buttons and knobs from a center console.  In hindsight... very bad idea. 
  • Sounds like a bunch of excuses you're making up for MS's outdated systems.....
  • Because Ford totally had no input.  /sarcasm   Not even sure how they "blew it again" considering this was their first go at infotainment in a car.  
  • Rofl kia.. Who wants to drive in that crap? So MS does all the crappy cars.. Great
  • Fiat as well. Microsoft's auto devision isn't going anywhere though, this isn't all they make. As to why Ford is ditching them, read the quote from the former sync engineer. http://microsoft-news.com/report-ford-planning-to-replace-windows-from-i...
  • Also, blackberry is desperate, and willing to undercut anyone.
  • There is more to this story. I just know it.
  • Microsoft is going to buy Blackberry anyways;)
  • Lol.. What?❔❓
  • You may be onto something here..  
  • Plain and simple, BB patent portfolio.
  • I think MS missed their opportunity to buy BB back when BB was looking to sell. But MS bought Nokia's hardware division instead. Don't get me wrong, Nokia was a good buy, but MS really needed to buy BB as well to be a large player in the mobile space.
  • Alas, But MSFT isn't Facebook... See a slight competition.. buy it out... :P :P
    But it could happen.. BB has almost empty pockets.. MSFT deep pockets..
  • Would make a whole heap of sense for MSFT to buy BB, they would have a much stronger footing in enterprise markets than anybody else.
  • This is pretty shocking news to me. I met and spoke in-depth with an engineer on the SYNC team and they had recently rolled out a new generation of SYNC which was much improved and they were deep into its successor for Ford vehicles within the last six months. Maybe this is true, but it seems a bit out of nowhere.
  • I had the same thought. Maybe they keep using Microsoft for cars currently under development and then all new designs are switching. It definitely seems like it came out of nowhere though, Ford has put a lot of work into Sync and it's going to be a task starting over.
  • Good point, thanks. 
  • This was meant for cybersaurusrux? When I hit reply to him,it comes up here?? Anyway, What's embarrassing is your ignorance. Along with the new BlackBerry devices, QNX BlackBerry is involved with many companies. Here are just a few: Nasa, Acura, Audi, Bentley, BMW, Cadillac, Chery, Chevrolet, Chrysler, Citroen, Daewoo, Ferrari, Fisker, Ford, Holden, Honda, Hyundai, Jaguar, Jeep, Lamborghini, Land Rover, Lexus, Lotus, Maserati, Mazda, Mercedes, Mini, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Opel, Peugeot, Porsche, Saab, SsangYong, Subaru, Tata, Toyota, Vauxhall and VW, etc.etc.etc......
  • Says the guy who doesn't know how the reply button works...
  • Oh, I forgot one other big BlackBerry QNX client. Nasa. 
  • Lol, three times I hit reply in someone's post and it showed up under a completely different person. Strange but true? 
  • Not strange. This is a not-so-rare bug when using the app. Could be the app or backend.
  • QNX was designed for this type of scenario. It's not as heavyweight as Windows; not to mention Windows was probably overkill for what they needed. Early in QNX's life (1998ish) there was a demo that booted and ran from a 3 1/4 inch floppy, and that was a GUI environment.
  • Windows embedded is pretty small and used in lots of similar applications such as gas pumps and ATMs. I think the real issue is that instead of just making a UI layer that sat on top of it like most do, Ford ran off and did their own thing. http://microsoft-news.com/report-ford-planning-to-replace-windows-from-i...
  • Good luck getting support 1-2 years from now when BB is bankrupt and will have to file a chapter 7. Hopefully then, Microsoft can just buy QNX and be back in action.
  • Jas0055, you make me laugh. Were not going anyhwhere :) I can guarantee you that dude.
  • Listen dude, no offense to BB, but they're in a hole too big to dig out of. The Z3 is far too late to make an impact and BB10 is a failure seeing how their old handsets outnumber the new ones by 3-to-1 and even with all of that, have less than a half of a percent market share. They don't have the ecosystem and they MAY be able to get by as an enterprise service company with BES and M2M solutions and stuff like that, but the days of BlackBerry are pretty much over. The day that they couldn't even get enough money to take them private confirmed it.
  • I don't want them to come up like Apple, Android, and Windows. I just want them to get better and rule the enterprise market. We have many things coming along the way and were not going anywhwere. It takes time and it takes patience. We will come up and when we do, I hope you crap your pants. :)
  • They're not going to rule enterprise unless you mean stuff like BES 10. The biggest story from their handsets was that the Pentagon supposedly bought 80,000 new phones, oh but wait... They weren't new phones. They were phones that they had in stock that weren't being used.
    Also, no offense to you, but I don't think you understand the tech industry. When it comes to tech, there is no "patience". You either innovate or you die. Thinking you could just tell people to "be patient" is what has caused BB to be in the hole that they're in.
  • I don't see Windows in the Gov't now do I...
  • What few government contracts that BB have gotten can't sustain them. I forget which carrier it was, but one of the largest Canadian carriers doesn't support the Z30, the Canadian government is using iPhones, the US army is using Samsung. Government agencies are dropping BB, enterprise are dumping BB, and consumers/carriers are dropping BB. Why do BlackBerry people tend to be so oblivious to the problems that their favorite company faces? This "oh everything will work, just see" is why BB is in the single digit stock numbers.
  • I realize this, and when gov't get hacked and secret info is spilled all over the floor, I'm going to laugh at the morons who made the decision. I assume you use a Nokia, isn't Nokia in the single digit stocks to... Smh
  • If you want to consider semantics, yes, Nokia's stock price is single digits, but their D&S division is being sold to Microsoft so Microsoft can have control over the ecosystem and Microsoft is definitely not in the single digits. Either way, I was talking about market cap, which BB is worth ~5B while Nokia is with almost 30B
  • Yes, Nokia is way higher, and haven't they also been making really cheap affordable devices before BlackBerry... So they have had a lot more time to make money.
  • Actually, Nokia's first Symbian phones didn't come out until 2004, 5 years after BB's phones first came out. Unless you mean the modern OSes like WP8 and BB10, which would only give Nokia a 4 month head start.
  • The first Nokia Symbian smartphone was the Nokia 7650 and it came out in 2002.
  • Nope. The Nokia 9000 released in 1996 was a smartphone by Nokia. It was a PDA and a phone in one.
  • The Nokia 9000 communicator that came out in 1996, was not a Symbian device. And the communicators in general were not consider as smartphones back then, the line switched to Symbian later on, at early 2000s with the Symbian Series 90, a powerful OS platform that never actually catch up. Nokia's Symbian efforts and powerhouse was always all about the Series 60 platform.
  • They don't have to be Symbian to be considered a smartphone. The 9000 is known as one of the early smartphones.
  • Nokia had Microsoft backing them. Who is backing BB? They just don't have the resources to keep fighting for much longer. Their main hope is to survive as a services company.
  • I'm just curious why a BB fanatic is on this site?
  • Because qnx triggered an email alert probably
  • Lol.
  • Only problem for BB is cash flow. They don't have deep enough pockets to survive much longer. I could be wrong but didn't even the Canadian carries pass on giving the Z30 shelf space?
  • You know I don't want to start anything big here but you are being "fanboy" to the extreme. Only a fanboy would say the things you said after their platform had finally gained some ground (not much) in the market. Shall we go back in time 3 years ago when these exact things were being said about WP7? This is almost as bad as some of the people on here that were diss'n BB10 for a lack of apps when it first launched. I currently am using a Q10, however I've been a WP fan since the beginning, flashing it on my HD2. BB10 is a great OS that needs some polishing up. There are maany frustrations that need to be worked out but at least it released with "copy/paste" something MS can't say.
  • I agree BB as a devices company is on life support. They may survive as a company going forward but not one the majority of Crackberry readers will want to read about IMO. For all we know MS and Ford may still be negotiating on pricing for the next gen product, and this leak is just a negotiating ploy by Ford.
  • Bb sucks everybody knows that! Youre gonna be bankrupt in 5 years. The company is so miserable that they developed their only winning point in mobile (BBM) on other OSes! You make me laugh lol
  • How do they suck? They are leading in the enterprise market. We just started from the bottom and we are slowly coming back up. You hear all the negative sides about BlackBerry. Know one ever heares the positive sides on BlackBerry.  
  • Blackberry tried to sell themselves and no one wanted to buy them, even for pennies on the dollar. BB fans are the new Linux fans, always popping in with their bizarre "20xx is the year of BlackBerry" comments even though nobody gives a rat's ass about their demonstrably worthless OS. It's been going on since the days of OS/2...
  • "Blackberry tried to sell themselves and no one wanted to buy them, even for pennies on the dollar."   Actually,  this is incorrect. Lenovo was all set and ready to purchase Blackberry. But, much to the ire of investors, the Canadian government stepped in and prevented the sale. 
  • Doesn't change the fact that until now BB has no takers for the easy reason that it's not a good buy. Z3 is the last chance for BB. If that does not sell very well, it's game over. Let me hazard a guess - it will only be a moderate success at most but I have a feeling it will be even less than that. I'm basing my guess on the great probability it's not going to cost lower than the Lumia 520 or lower than the multitude of cheap Androids out there. For the sake of the employees and the loyal fans of BB, I hope it succeeds but I'm afraid we're seeing the last days of BB.
  • That's the cost of capitalism. Posted via the WPC App for Android!
  • You'd have to be a fool to call Linux a "worthless" OS.
  • Especially with the wording in your last sentence.
  • Started from the bottom, now we here
  • Um... yeah lower than when they started LOL
  • @Armin Mhd And so did Microsoft?
  • Well i dont think u can see office on ipads or androids can you? Haha
  • https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.office.offic... https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/office-mobile-for-office-365/id541164041...   What did you say?
  • U know u cant access it without a office 365 subscription so dont bullshit with me bro its not the experience:)
  • Maybe but it's there, just like Skype, SkyDrive, etc and most of the time, they work better on other platforms than on WP.
  • Well those are all cross platform applications, theyve been that way since microsoft started working on em. Otherwise microsoft wouldnt be called a software company bro
  • And BB isn't?    And I ain't your bro you douchebag.
  • C'mon, now. Was that really called for?
  • Yes.
  • Sorry for my first it was a little bit harsh maybe BB isnt that bad but in my opinion it cant survive in this tech generation. Its just expressing opinions:)
  • well they dont really work better on other platforms than on WP, most aps on other platforms perform worse than the WP equivilent.
  • Actually they dont! Skype on iOS is better than ours. I dont know about android. Onedrive is now on the same level it has options no other cloud service could offer.
  • Where does this fairytale come from? Most apps in WP are worse! To name a few.. Skype, whatsapp, Facebook, so on..
  • Actually, I find even Office works better on every platform other than WP. Editing in Excel is useless if you can't copy and paste formulas (i.e. just making a sequence of numbers/years). WP can't do this, but Docs2Go owned by Blackberry does this fine and is available on BB, Android, and iOS. My kids teachers send Word doc newsletters, but WP just says it's a corrupted file (probably because it's an older format, 2003), but I can see the attachments just fine on iPhone, BB, or Android. It's pitiful.
  • The debate wasn't whether you needed a subscription or not.  You said "The company is so miserable that they developed their only winning point in mobile (BBM) on other OSes!" If it's bad business sense for Blackberry to place their "only winning point in mobile on other OSes," then it has to be bad business sense for Microsoft to do the same. Considering the fact that Skype, OneDrive, Office, etc are applications that are important parts of Microsoft's ecosystem, then Microsoft is just as guilty of being "miserable."
  • Well microsoft has done a pretty good job spreading their cross platform services to different kinds of people. The point about skydrive and skype was to get the service to anybody who needs it with any device, but bbm was the only point consumers bought blackberry devices, because it was a blackberry exclusive. You know what i mean it was like imessage on iOS, ONLY ON BB PHONES. Just like Office's full experience only on windows phone. This was the approach for BBM not spreading it for everyone. This shows how much bb10 lacks from android, iOS and even wp. Cuz when u dont have something special people r gonna look for the simple stuff that bb10 simply doesnt have!
  • @Armin Mhd I know what you mean. I was just arguing semantics, lol. Posted via the WPC App for Android!
  • These WPC fanboys are worse than the iMore ones..sheesh. Kudos to you for trying Merc. Posted via the WPC App for Android!
  • So if BB sucks so bad, why is Ford going with them? That's what I thought!
  • I wish David Attenborough was here to narrate this rare glimpse at the endangered Blackberry fanboy.
  • I like Windows to thank you. When Windows first started in phones, everyone laughed saying they weren't going to make it. They have and their continuing to grow. BlackBerry is the same way, 10 has completely changed, and now were slowly coming up.
  • Except Windows Phone's market share and sales to end users have never gone down quarter over quarter, unlike BB10, so they're not even close to the same thing. When BB gets at least 1% market share, then call me because the IDC disagrees with your "we will come back" notion.
  • Believe what you want buddy. Watch us come back. I will even buy a box of tissues for you when you cry that BlackBerry has come back.
  • What do you mean "believe"? These are hard facts from BB and Nokia themselves. I guess real facts don't make it past the BB distortion field.
  • There's nothing to "believe." His reply is based on facts. The IDC has hard numbers that show Blackberry's market share going down, over the past few quarters. Meanwhile, Windows Phone's marketshare has climbed considerably, due in large part to Nokia's push in to developing markets with low-cost handsets.  You can be a fan of Blackberry, but don't dismiss hard facts. This is the reality of the situation. You simply can't turn a blind eye to the competition.
  • BB's last hope hinges on the Z3. If it sells millions like the Lumia 520, then it will grow from there. But the only way for it to succeed is to match the price point of the 520 and the innumerable cheap Androids, and better still to undercut these phones in price. But I'm afraid that's not gonna happen. So I see the Z3 get only moderate success at best, but probably it'll only get a low success rate. As I said, I hope for the employees' sake and the BB fans it will prosper but I think we're seeing the death rattle of BB.
  • Fact Check: I agree with your point of view in this debate.  However, there was a sequential decline in Windows Phone Q3 2013 to Q4 2013.  On your other points, I agree.  
  • No, activations of WP went up QoQ. Sales from Nokia to carriers went down, but sales from carriers to consumers went up.
  • Ok.  Good clarification and great news!
  • Other than the Pentagon real, what other deals makes you say they are coming back up? They need several consistent big orders like the pentagon to stay alive. Are they coming up every month?
  • In some countries, they are coming up. Just not in the United States or South America areas.
  • And, you may be right. But, globally, Blackberry's marketshare has gone down. 
  • The thing that people are forgetting is that QNX has been around before Blackberry took over the OS in 2010. With that said, let Blackberry have their nitch. If Microsoft's sync system was causing issues, then they should switch to something that is proven and works. What Microsoft need to do is focus on the four eco systems, PC, tablet, Xbox, and phone.   I realize they are trying to saturate the market by being in many different areas, but maybe the trick for them is to stick to making their OS more fluid and usable over multiple hardware platforms. Complete that one vision and make it work well, and they will see extraordinary growth and popularity. Then they can expand to other areas, if they would like. Too much too soon can and will be their issue.
  • Lmao, I love this message board!
  • And just how could you guarantee that?
  • BB is for losers, they already are bankrupt.
  • LOL, bankrupt means no money. They still have money and are debt free. I think your the loser for not knowing what bankrupt means.
  • BB took $1B from Fairfax and other investors and talks to Canada of another $1B which it gonna return as specially high taxes. They really are out of money. Besides, bankrupt doesn't mean being out of money, it means being unable to pay back your loan when you have to. You better go find out what a word means before trying to catch an teach someone. He just meant BB is almost a bankrupt.
  • Atop trolling the comments.I am a Android fanboy and even I admit that Windows Phone is in a much better position than BB.Microsoft cash reserves are huge not to mention all the talented designers they are gonna get from Nokia.Have you looked at the 8.1 change log?If it turns out to be true then MS just caught up with 80% of the features Android has.BB has nothing in comparison.I look forward to buying a Lumia after 8.1 is released and I won't give a rats was about the z3 and I know there are many with me Posted via the WPC App for Android!
  • That's actually not true. They owe almost a billion and their cash on hand is just over two billion. They have a bit more if you include short and long term investments, but the way they are bleeding money, they don't have long to right the ship.
  • My company is completely ditching all BB devices. We're not the only ones.
  • Our company is purchasing BB10 phones. We are not the only ones. 
  • I'm no bb fan and yeah maybe in a few years it might be called nokmicroberry but QNX ain't bad and they still have the government behind them.
  • That could be awesome
  • Is that black berry guy gone yet? I can't help but cringe whenever he posts
  • Before BB dies, QNX will be sold off. They've lasted at least 16 year that I know of, and they were around some time before I heard of them.
  •  That's funny. You must be reading BGR too much? BlackBerry is here to stay. BB10 is just getting started. 
  • Still a ford
  • What's that supposed to mean?
  • "Fixed or repaired daily", or "found on the road dead" I'm guessing :-P
  • Lol, he's right. Ford sucks, with or without MSoft.
  • So you haven't driven one is what you are saying?
  • The only Americans I ever see argue about American car brands are rednecks. But they aren't educated so it's expected.
  • Or Driver Returns On Foot   That said--i do hope MSFT buys QNX.  When RIM stops making phones, this will be a good option and gets them a nice backend messaging service through BBM.  Google and AAPL have been making aggressive buys, and think MSFT could do well to acquire them as well.  Lenovo is out now that they bought Motorola... As a Canadian, I kind of have to love RIM...but there just is no future there as a handset maker. 
  • Good cause Sync was bad in the cars it was implemented in. Look at the reviews.
  • Works just fine in my 2013 Ford Fusion Hybrid. I like the Fusion A LOT! I think they had problems early on, but I have no major complaints. (only thing I can think of is the audio doesn't remember to stay in surround sound.)
  • I have a 2013 Fusion as well and I have no complaints.
  • It works great in my wife's 2011 Mustang. Her's isn't the hugh end touch sync model but the base one.
  • Exactly! The base Sync worked great. It's the high end models where Ford added a bunch of crap that got the bad reviews. Kind of like the PC. Base Windows is good until the PC makers start gunking it up with crapware.
  • Don't like this. I have a 2010 Mustang and Sync works great with my Windows Phone.
  • Can we switch lives for a day, please?
  • Fords are shit cars anyways
  • What car do you have that is so amazing?
  • I got a 2014 Chrysler 300c and its awesome! Totally worth the 49k
  • Hahahaha. 50k for a Chrysler - you are off your rocker for paying that much.
  • I had it custom built on Chrysler website. (its no base model)
  • Its still a Chrysler. And those 300's look silly..
  • those things look like gangsta cars or like the cars from original robocop   i say go for whatever car you like and who cares what others think, especially davegx lol   i dont know if 49k is good value, if i convert to sterling it sounds reasonable but personally i never buy new cars only nearly new because i was taught that way. so even if i have the money i cant deal with it losing so much value as soon as i drive it off the forecourt. it physically hurts my soul. i deal with it with phones because they are somwhat more affordable but even if i was a billionaire i dont think i could do it for a car. unless it was a million pound one off customised personal chariot with a new sexy chauffeur chick each day for 5 years thrown in, maybe i'd think about it i also like doing deals with the dealer, i like to get the dealer manager's own car or the demo models because they usually kit them out and are way cheaper and still have most of the original warranty anyway. also you can do a good part exchange at the same time if you swap cars every time bmw come out with a new model at least that's what i do
  • He has the tumbler. Surprised you haven't heard of it.
  • Or at the very least you'd think they'd have seen the videos of it driving across rooftops.
  • my car is so stealthy you can never see it on the rooftops or underground, or even on the roads. once i even drove through your house while you were playing with your phone but you never noticed. it's the latest secret tech. you have a nice house though
  • Since when and who are you repeating?
  • Does it make you feel good to be a parrot? "Foreign cars ar ALWAYS better than any domestic car". Ford has caught up, go drive one.
  • Caught up? No. Have they rebounded? Yes but non US domestic cars are still leading the pack.
  • The Ford Fusion is the number 1 car on the road, right now. Just an FYI.
  • I live in LA, a foreign dominated car market. Now that the new Fiesta, Focus, and Fusion models have been out a few years now I see them everywhere. More and more each day. People apparently love them. I have a Mazdaspeed 3, but had I not I'd be all over a Focus ST.
  • I love mine.
  • I'm not fighting with you on this one but, driving one does very little for me. I care about reliability 2-5 years from now. How are Fords doing in this category.
  • Remarkably well. They have stepped their game up big time in the last 5-7 years. Ford-manufactured cars frequently place amongst the top-10 best built cars on the road in JD Power type surveys. 10 years ago they weren't even coming close. Its actually a bit surprising.
  • My '06 mustang gt never had a single issue. Other than regular maintenance it never saw a repair shop/the dealership. too bad my cousin totaled it in October or I would've said it's still running great.
  • I have 3 fords a 96 150 a 97 mustang and a 03 e250 aka the shag wagon they all run beautifully most major thing I've done to them is rebuild the engine on the f150 because I was racing and the piston blew up, I also have a 96 Chevy blazer have to replace the fuel pump again and the 4wd sometimes struggles to engage but with any vehicle they need maintenance but I just hate dodges though the trucks are kinda ugly to me
  • What a stupid comment.
  • 2005 LS2 GTO baby... Love the 300c but really hate Mustangs.
    kjordan, you don't like muscle cars?
  • im a european car person but i always loved the mustangs even the modern ones. so many times have i thought about buying a right hand conversion or doing it myself but never did. now fordy ford are releasing one for the uk but can i give up the bmw or possibly the new jag? im thinking its a hard decision
  • The Ford Fusion is the number 1 car on the road, right now... FYI.
  • Screw it. I don't buy cars for their operating systems lol anyone with me?
  • Yep.
  • ^this
  • Not really, but I'll do my best to avoid one with Android or iOS in it as much as possible.
  • Amen.
  • If you can connect via Bluetooth to the car, who cares what OS is in there.
  • I'm with you. I even asked to not have navigation, sat, etc in my current car. Rather use my phone and BT.
  • There you go!
  • people dont like idrive but i love it, its so easy and the sat nav is great, im sure others are ok too, i like the merc system but havent really checked out what fords, hondas etc have been up to recently in that area
  • BMW makes a great car, but their infotainment system is somthing I can not live without, have never used anything better. 
  • Don't really care, as Sync never really worked with WPs anyways...
  • That has not been true for me. I drive a 2009 Ford Focus that has Sync and both of my WP's, the 521 and now 925 work fine with it. Both devices connected up in a snap. I use it everyday for calling and more importantly to listen to my music library. I'm even able to get my text messages read to me. I've had no problems with it.
  • YOur text message thing is the WP8 function, and not SYNC. When I'm using my 8X with my BT earpiece, the phone will read the text messages to me and ask me if I want to make a reply. It's the phone and not the car.
  • Same here. I have a 925, my wife has a 521 and we have a 2013 Fusion and no issues.
  • Like Cherokee said, that doesn't use Sync technology, it uses Bluetooth, like any other car that has Bluetooth. So what you are describing isn't the "sync" technology. That's just Bluetooth.
  • Nokia 928 works great with Sync
  • Hey...lets ditch the billion dollar company that will still be around in 50 years for the nickel and dime company that can count its time left in months. What idiot made this call?
  • While BB is still in trouble, their QNX division is not. QNX will not disappear. Their software is used in a lot of places, including nuclear plants.
  • Um, Blackberry is a billion dollar company.
  • 4 Billion :). The onlt thing that jumped Microsoft up is the Xbox. If it wasn't for that, they would be way lower. And nobody would care about Microsoft.
  • Ever heard of the enterprise? Xbox and WP pales in comparison to Enterprise licensing.
  • The stupid, I can't even.
  • Okay buddy, I know your a BB fan and all but think about how stupid the comment you just made is.
  • Bull$#it! The enterprise division is freaking huge. Compare that division to RIM and you'll see. What about Office alone? AZURE? Patents? All these bring billions for Microsoft.
  • It's not called RIM Anymore. You must live in the olden ages. Read about everything before you make a comment.
  • Lol, seriously that's you're only comeback? Sorry man, Blackberry. Happy? :) I'm sorry Blackberry won't win the Enterprise fight just like they couldn't cut it in the consumer market.
  • You're telling people to read about stuff when you just said: "The onlt thing that jumped Microsoft up is the Xbox. If it wasn't for that, they would be way lower." I think you're actually brain damaged. You are TOO stupid.
  • Seriously, Xbox isn't even a blip on Microsoft's financial statements. They make their money from Office and Windows sales and have very profitable enterprise , servers, and cloud services businesses.
  • I'm sorry. But, this comment is so out of touch with reality, lol.
  • Are you an idiot? Microsoft makes more profit in a quarter than BB is worth. They have divisions that do more revenue in a quarter than BB will all year.
  • I don't know who made this call, but they seem to have the same level of business acumen found at Audi, BMW, and Land Rover.
  • I doubt this..
  • I myself am suprised by this honsestly. But it makes sense because lots of other forein cars are using BlackBerry's QNX system. Ford wants to follow also I guess. Let's see how this turns out.
  • It will help make BB a more attractive buy. Maybe someone will scoop them up now.
  • Honestly, I think Microsoft is waiting for the price to drop. For a billion or less there would be some nice tie ins to Microsoft's current businesses...not to mention the patents.
  • Its old tech, the new tech is right around the corner, cortana! #dumbmove
  • Doesn't mean it will come to Sync.
  • Meh, it's a ford.
  • Ford is one of the best selling car manufacturers in North America, if not the best. At a time when Apple and Google are looking to get into the car game it is hard to say that losing this partnership is just 'meh'. It could prove to be a huge competitive loss in a few years.
  • One of the first companies in the world and still didn't learn how to make reliable cars, you must be blind to say opposite
  • I'm not saying the opposite. I said that they are one of the best selling manufacturers in North America; not best made, most reliable, or anything else. Numbers speak for themselves. If you can't see that you must be blind.
  • The reliability ratings have been up. Toyota on the other hands has had major issues with many recalls in the last few years.
  • One of the first companies in the world? I assume you mean first car companies because they aren't even close to oldest company in the world.
  • Last I checked, unless you include the Toyota and Volkswagen plants as American, there are three car manufacturers in the US plus a handful of boutique companies. Of course, if you factor in the reality that Chrysler is owned by Fiat, there are then two major US manufacturers left. As such, it would be difficult for them to not be one of the best sellng manufacturers.
  • Forgive me, I didn't realize that I would have to be so pedantic. You have misunderstood what I said. Ford is obviously amongst the best selling American manufacturers, but that is irrelevant to what I said. The argument in my initial comment has nothing to do with Ford being a best-selling American-based manufacturer. The argument says that Ford is one of the best selling manufacturers in North America, regardless of country of origin - i.e. they outsell the vast majority of Japanese, German, Korean, American etc. manufacturers in North America. This has the potential to be a major loss for Microsoft because of the market share that one of the best selling brands in North America represents; and which Micorsoft just lost. This loss becomes more acute when one considers that they just lost this market share in the car market at a time when their two largest competitors, Apple and Google, are looking to get into the same market.
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  • Sounds like you have some insecurities about your vehicle that you have to bash fords on a noncar related forum. Grow up.
  • Lol...ford owners....
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  • Screw Ford anyway, I like Cars from Nissan or the Chrysler group. I also laugh when blackberry goes bankrupt.
  • I'll laugh when BlackBerry doesn't go bankrupt.
  • They experience net loss year after year, and there app ecosystem is horrible. I know I'm using a windows phone and there isn't a lot of apps but blackberry been around for years and was beet by a relatively new OS
  • That's where you sideload Snap and get Android apps. Please, before saying shit, know your stuff. I say this as a WP fan and L920 user.
  • Side loading apps is hard for the average consumer and its also stealing the devs property without Pryor consent.
  • It isnt. There's videos on YouTube explaining how to do it step by step.  
  • Then don't bother side loading and install amazon app store through the browser.
    Blackberry runs android apps just like an android phone and you can install an apk directly through the phone without using a pc.
  • But but but... it's hard :(
  • True, but the average consumer doesn't know this. And, more likely than not, the average consumer isn't going to want to do this.  It makes absolutely no sense, for someone to buy a Blackberry device because of the ability to run Android apps. That person is better off just buying an Android device, as the apps were meant for that platform.  Now, somebody that already has a BB10 device, is who this functionality would be good for. Or, someone that wants to develop or port Android apps over to the Blackberry 10 platform.
  • You couldn't be more right about running Android apps. However, I run both a Z10 and an 8X. In a straight up comparison, I really like both phones; but, the keyboard on the Z10 is clearly a cut above anything else, and I;ve had extensive use of iOS6, WP8, BBOS 7 and BB10. The podcatcher function of the Music app on WP8 is the best, as is the Bluetooth function in handling text messages. When I'm writing an email on my desktop at work, my Z10 will show me that i'm in the process of composing an email. The Z10 is the fastest phone I've used. I'll have emails show up on my phone before they show up in my desktop Outlook email. Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn are part of the operating system, and are not third party applications, and I have all of the apps I could want without Android. And it's not stealing when you can get what few other apps you think you need from the Amazon Application Store.
  • It would be foolish to think that if BB goes under that QNX will simply disappear into thin air. Either the entire company would be sold-off to another who would likely continue to operate QNX or it will be sold piecemeal at which point QNX could be sold on its own. There would assuredly be plenty of companies out there willing to buy the rights to the OS that runs in the vehicles of several major manufacturers.
  • The New BB10 operating system has been around for only one year. BlackBerry World has plenty of apps for a new operating system. They broke the record in this regard. Plus, with the latest 10.2.1 update, you can now download Android Apps. (not side load, download)  I have 112 BlackBerry World Apps and two android Apps. 
  • Chrysler? Chrysler isn't what they used to be in the days of the original 300.
    I have a 2000 Chrysler.  I personally rebuilt the engine at 110,000km because one of the pistons decided to begin collapsing.  The engine is the same engine as in the Dodge SRT and PT Cruiser.  Solid engine, but random problems like that crop up more often than they should.  However, I know that Mitsubishi actually makes that engine - so not necessarily Chrysler's fault.  But that doesn't change the fact that every Chrysler I've owned or my friends have owned have had serious suspension issues.  Ball joints wearing out LONG before they should, linkage arms breaking yearly etc. My first car was a GM (pontiac) and it lasted ages with none of the same issues I experience with my Chrysler.  Won't be buying a Chrysler again.
  • I also like Nissan but the Chrysler group also makes fiat's, doge, ram jeep and Buick.
  • I know.  There's a good reason why you still see old GM and Ford trucks on the road and very few old Dodge vehicles.
  • Umm Buick is owned by General Motors not Chrysler
  • Oh sorry
  • News flash - Chrysler does not build Fiats. Chrysler is a wholly owned subsidiary of Fiat. Oh, Buick is also a GM product. Even if you slept through 2008-2010 with the economic collapse and merger, it is a bit hard to miss Buick's century long association with GM.
  • Chrysler motors make the fiats in America( I know fiat own Chrysler group) and I made a mistake.
  • Ok there fanboy.
  • Even if they go bankrupt, someone will buy QNX and it won't stop the software from continuing to run.
  • Windows Embedded Automotive was not being updated regularly and Microsoft does not seem to care. Ford should have done this sooner! Idiots... They gave MS money for ugly UI and uselss partnership. 
  • Well, this really isn't news since Nokia's HERE is behind this with QNX. And it was announced already a while ago...   http://www.qnx.com/news/pr_5769_1.html   "LAS VEGAS, 2014 International CES (North Hall, Booth 536), January 7, 2014 — QNX Software Systems Limited, a global leader in software platforms for in-car electronics, and HERE, a Nokia business, today announced a new technology partnership with the goal of enabling personalized, cloud-based location services for the connected car. "    
  • Wow! I hadn't that. That will be a fabulous combination. A combination of the best of two worlds.
  • I'm disappointed at this, since I thought MS and Ford had a closer relationship. I was hoping that vision of the "Ford Evos" tech demo would come true. I love Ford and hope they rethink this rash decision.
  • ... Maybe they should have hired Mullaly.
  • I have a 2013 Ford F150 fully loaded with the Full Sync experience. I can say from experience Sync has given me so many problems! Im very disappointed that Microsoft didn't pursue it better. Microsoft needs the automotive market
  • From what I've read, it's only the OS that's powered by MS. The shell and its functionality is developed by Ford.
  • Good, maybe Microsoft will start to realize what the word EcoSystem actually means. Pathetic how Sync doesn't take full advantage of all Windows Phones. And BTW, Blackberry will make huge dollars of QNX. And before you troll on me, I am using a Lumia 920 and drive a Ford F150.
  • Maybe you might want to look up the definition of ecosystem yourself....
  • I have a new Ford with MS Sync in it and I have to say that I have been left underwhelmed. It has a lot of bugs and lacks functionality that I would have expected (i.e. I can't choose songs on my WP8 device using voice - have to do it manually which is obviously problematic safety wise). Further, I feel like MS has left a lot of potential on the table. For example, there is no Sync app on WP for controlling on-board audio, climate, etc. I feel like there would have been some opportunity there. In a way, I feel like they deserve this fate as it could certainly be a lot better, but I do hope that they can get back in the game with a better offering soon.
  • I have been looking into making a Windows Phone app to control Sync, but unfortunatley, Ford's Sync developer program does not have a Wndows Phone sdk available for developers to take advantage of. They offer it for iOS and Android, but not Windows Phone (which is a shame). If a sdk was available, I would take full advantage of it.
  • Wow, that's pretty surprising - and a shame, like you say. It would have been great if you could have done that. At the same time, it's also a bit bewildering that MS would not have made any kind of app themselves. They wrote the Sync OS and they write WP8, but at no point did the two divisions of the same company create an app to harness potential cross-functionalities. The blame can't really be placed on Ford for not expending their resources on our beloved, low market-share OS; but it certainly can be placed on Microsoft in my opinion. They were the ones with an opportunity to lose here, and they lost it.
  • Wasn't Ballmer saying that MS was building an OS that would "have a common experience across all of your devices"? Must have forgot about the automotive segment.
  • Lol, ya seriously. I feel like they have these divisions - like Sync and their healthcare software - that they treat as side projects. If they brought them into their core Windows fold I feel like there is a lot they could do... And don't look now, but Apple is patenting health-related products/features. This could be somewhere that MS can start out ahead, rather than clueing-in 3 years later and losing what competitive advantage they might have had - i.e. what is happening in automotive right now.
  • My experience with the Sync system in a rental car was so poor that I'm not surprised they decided to change. Sync was so complex I couldn't figure out how to do basic things, like play music off my phone. It was sad.
  • Completely agree.
  • I have a 2013 ford explorer sport fully loaded with sync....a Microsoft fail...total disappointment for me and my WP.
  • So much for another ford
  • Oh well.. Another MS fail.
  • I'm all in for tech in your car, but if I had the choice, option of bb qnx or not, I would go with no !
  • Just a little heads up. QNX had been around before BB. Its a real time OS. Super Stable.
  • Purchasing QNX is probably the biggest reason they are still in business. From everything QNX already has to Blackberry's new QNX based OS.
  • Guess I am not getting that Ford Taurus SHO now. Too bad.
  • Lol your name is Dusteater and you were gonna buy a Ford Taurus SHO.
  • BlackBerry can also survive just off of QNX. QNX powers almost everything so don't be saying bad crap on us. We will come back whatever you say. We made phones way before Windows did, before Android, and before Apple. BlackBerry made a huge jump from 7 to 10 and its getting way better. We have a Chinese dude as ou CEO, and Chinese peole are smart. He chose us so he see's something in us that's good.
  • ^ There's a river in Egypt...
  • Hahaha.
  • River Nile? What about it :p?
  • Before Windows, by less than 11 months...
  • First, Blackberry and QNX are not the same. Yes they own it but decide to segrgate. Why they took so long to use QNX in all connected devices is beyond me. QNX is a great microkernel OS based on UNIX but they removed the open source option. Give the damn thing back to the open source community similar to Android and it will surpass IOS and WP.
  • This guy must live in Colorado and spends his day smoking
  • Amusing. I'm glad I've never liked Ford.
  • I believe the MS solution was based on win CE - so it's old hat anyway! Either way, QNX is well established - and remember; QNX IS NOT BB10! It is NOT blackberry, merely what BB10 is built on, like Linux and android. Blackberry could go broke but QNC would be spun off before then - and, in the grand scheme of things, it isn't making that much for blackberry anyway - either way it is a well proven platform and is probably the right way to go. MS hasn't offered anything compelling, as an alternative. Shame for them.
  • You guys need to stop comparing this to the consumer levels of these companies. I don't see QNX disappearing as fast as BB handsets
  • Thank-you.  This is the problem with stories on Mobile sites- there is this HUGE disconnect between the consumer market (which mobile dominates) and the enterprise market.  BB has a very good chance to make a comeback, but we need to learn to seperate their handset production from this type of service.  It seems as though QNX is opening doors for them.   I would rather see this then a great company like BlackBerry get shuttered.  Microsoft can regroup from this and redouble their OS efforts.  BB is in need of cash infusion now.
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  • Big props!
  • And quit the offensive BS about Chinese people being smart and "choosing" blackberry - i don't know of you're being ironic or what but that just is poor. Chen has a proven track record - in enterprise. If there is something to be made, of blackberry, then it will be made. And i say this having bought the q10, z10 & 30. Anyway - this is a wake up call to MS. End of.
  • Like! Like! ^5
  • I've had 2 fords with sync. The Bluetooth worked and that's it. Music and phone over it was fine. What is bs is the fact on f150 I need to always pick Bluetooth media to use it instead of it remembering.
  • Well can't say I didn't see this coming. Sync has way to many issues and MS clearly doesn't give a shit.
  • You can all poo-poo this move...and I don't like the move either...but this is another example of MS's outdated price structure. Drop the license fee for WP, Win8 and sync to prosper!
  • No. The only way to do that and still be profitable is to introduce ads, and pretty much become Google.
  • Agreed. Google effectively needs to own you to turn a profit - MS asks for the money up front and doesn't sell everything about you to the highest bidder. I hope to God they can remain competitive using that model.
  • Damn you Ford and Microsoft!
  • Sync and my Ford touch are different. MS didn't make My Ford touch, Ford built it on MS platform.
  • Yeah smart move....NOT!!! Which imbecilic moron made this decision considering Cortana is just around the corner!
  • Sync is a completely different operating system. The fact that Cortana is coming to WP8 says nothing about the future of the Sync OS.
  • Remember: mobile “fanboys” aren't exactly tech savvies.
  • lol
  • Are they crazy! Blackberry will be going out of business soon. Bad move Ford.
  • Doesn't mean QNX wouldn't be sold-off to another company. In all likelihood it would be. When companies go bankrupt they don't disappear, they sell off the company, the individual assets, or they rebuild (a-la General Motors). QNX is a very stable, pre-Blackberry OS that BB bought later - it has a ton of value and would be quickly snapped-up by any company already-in, or looking to get into the car-OS market. There is no risk for Ford in switching to QNX.
  • Microsoft should buy BB and then act like the whole damn thing never happened.
  • As long as it works with WP8 I'm ambivalent
  • Epic dumb move Ford.
  • Maybe it'll actually work with WP....
  • I use Sync every day in my work truck (F250). It truly is a piece of crap. Surprisingly, it doesn't even support my Zune. I feel like Microsoft lost the account now than QNX won it
  • It was the base Sync that works great and people love on cheaper cars. Ironically it was the higher end models that Ford gunked up by adding crapware that got bad reviews.
  • Of it's true, IF..... THIS might be a reason for Microsoft to bite the bullet and buy blackberry
  • Ford is a crappy company, owned several vehicles new and all were a,nightmare. Never used sync once. Switched to Volvo after ford got rid of the company and never looked back. Volvo for life fuck ford
  • Fiat uses tom tom navigation with Microsoft blue n me technology and it roocks.... All depends on BB's future to see how far it goes with their mobile flagship
  • The TomTom bit is okay, but the rest of Blue&Me is awful. You cant even play music over Bluetooth, having to connect either by an aux cable or with a USB stick. It doesn't even recognise Windows Phone as an external source when connecting via USB.
  • U r spot on with that..it definitely fails to read wp via usb cable n moreover it also fails to read messeges as well...may a update should b ok
  • Couldn't care less. First, because the last thing I care about when I buy a car, is the OS. I buy a car to drive. Not a computer. Second, because...Ford? lol yeah, no, thanks. I rather buy German cars.   (Oh, by the way, two words: Alan Mulally. =P)
  • Mulally is mad because he wasn't chosen as the new CEO. :p
  • Yes!!!!!!
  • I have a Windows 8.1 laptop, a surface and a lumia. Honestly I don't get all the hate for BB and that some people wish that it will bankrupt or if they don't wish that they will just get happy once hearing this. We sound like those (apple, android) fanboys when they make fun of windows phone users about the market share. I believe a strong BB around is better for the competitions in order for other companies to provide better and better phones and services. I don't know anything about QNX but they must have done something good in order for ford to consider it as a better option. So instead of defending Microsoft and accusing other people for liking another company I guess we should better be more skeptical.
  • +520 +525 +620 +625 +720 +820 +920 +925 +1020 +1320 +1520 (PS I don't have all of them but I so agree with you)
  • You are so right! I too have a Surface that I really like, I use an 8.1 laptop, have an 8X, and really like my Z10. Sometimes I find myself putting my sim in my 8X just to get me some of that WP8 goodness. My wife is a tecnophobe and just loves her Nokia 710 running WP7.5. She wouldn't have anything else. There is so much goodness in our technology going around right now, just soak it all in.
  • Never could understand why Ford never went with QNX in the first place. It's simply the best.
  • Good ford sucks anyway
  • MS needs to lower their fees....
  • That's is a low blow Mark. But thank they didn't go with Apple.
  • My Alfa has Microsoft's Blue&Me technology. If Sync is anything like this appalling system then I don't blame Ford for jumping ship.
  • QNX is the OS behind Chrysler's Uconnect 8.4 system and it is excellent and considered the best by some. I have it in my Dart and Journey-its fast and always works. As far as Chrysler goes, it is a different company now with Fiat, they have really improved things.
  • Really? I I've been looking for someone's opinion about what the change is making of Chrysler. That Dart is based on Alfa 156 (did I get that right?) which is an excellent car.
  • thats perfectly normal when you fall asleep a little bit everyone will jump ahead of you what happens doesnt matter the most important thing is what are they going to do about it
  • Many people do not realize  that Blackberry's QNX system is already in a large portion of the automotive industry's cars. They also don't realize that the new BlackBerry 10 operating system is QNX based. This will go along way in regards to promoting the power of new BlackBerry devices. BlackBerry 10 deserves way more respect than what the press wants you to believe. This is a Great Day for for a great comoany. All the best BlackBerry.  
  • I guess Microsoft should develop a good enough system to be competitive! Microsoft has the cash flow and know how to built good products so they should put their talent and money into development and they will not lose market share in any segment. Now stop having a go at BlackBerry, they are only doing their job. Direct ur hate at elgoog... they like to play dirty!
  • I'm torn on this one. I've owned a 2010 Fusion Hybrid and now have a 2013 Fusion Energi (PHEV). If you haven't owned a car with the full touch screen with the navigation and entertainment packages then you can't really speak 100% to the experience. My experiences with the 2010 one was it was always a little less than intuitive and didn't really age well over the four years I had it. But it was fairly accurate for voice interactions once you learned the syntax and bug free. Moving on the 2013... Way bigger enhancements to the overall systems capabilities and an improvement in some.of the intuitive interface pieces. However, interaction between the right panel in the HUD and the main touchscreen can be laggy or bug out, it can be slow when first coming in to handle commands to the different parts if the system simultaneously. Example, if I'm using the D pad on the steering wheel to tell it to book the nav route home, while voice commanding to to make a call, it can take way to long to come up with traffic report info and estimated arrival times. Laggy and more buggy counterbalanced with a big explosion in function though. Now to the energi part. Ford doesn't have windows mobile applications for controlling charge settings and remote starting, locating, unlocking and so forth. Its a big pain in the ass to try it with just the website which has no responsive UI or mobile version. Bottom line: Maybe their in car tech partner change will help, maybe not. But it certainly will not fix the issue that Ford is a great car company, but not a great software company yet.
  • Honestly I'm glad, I have a new focus with sync and although nice and works great with my fiance iPhone I can't use the USB for music, I have to stream through Bluetooth and that's just not prefered although does work. Plus I have ended up with windows errors on screen more than a few times. Love all things MS but unless they put a bunch more money to make sync alot better including with WP switching is probably a good move on fords part.
  • Welp, time to boycott Ford.
  • lol stop being stupid
  • Fix Or Repair Daily.   Skip the Ford.
  • As an owner of three Ford Vehicles all with my Ford Touch I can't say that I blame them. The system is working fairly well now after several updates but it has been so Buggy that People really hate it (I'm not one of them, I like it). It has made a huge negative impact on Fords quality ratings, People are constantly having to bring their cars in for Service just because they can't figure out how to work it, or it doesn't work as it should. Even though Ford has updated it several times for free, most people are probably still running the original version of it because they don't want to bother with the updates or even more likely they are not capable of doing it (download from Ford onto a USB and then about 45 minutes to update the system with the car running in the driveway). The original version seemed to crash at the most inopportune moment, for me always when the Navigation was running. If I were in an unfamiliar area I would literally have to pull over and wait for it to recover. I do have to say that it has never crashed again with the latest update on but maybe too little too late??
  • I have not used either MS Sync or QNX... I only hope that whichever system is used in my next vehicle, my Windows Phone will be able to pair using Bluetooth.
  • Bummer.
  • OK, after reading a bunch of comments regarding Ford I feel I must add my 2 cents worth, 2011 Mustang GT rag top, 2012 Titanium Focus and 2013 Titanium Escape. All three excellent cars that I would happily pit against anything coming from Japan or Europe any day. Alan Mulally is a CEO Rockstar. He kept Ford out of Bankruptcy and did not end up costing the US Taxpayer millions in bailout $$ like the other two. Speaking of the other two when will they stop calling Chrysler one of the American big three? It's not American any more, their all "American" commercials are a crock.
  • It's hilarious reading some of these comments from people who clearly know nothing about cars.
  • Ditto-your ignorance of the car industry shows in your comments-don't think for a minute Ford did not take any tax money to stay afloat. Ford also testified in favor of the bailouts and then ran commercials ripping them for doing so- I will never buy a Ford for that reason.
  • What does this have to do with anything I said? And Ford got an asset-backed loan...that's not a secret.
  • People always say that but never offer proof. You can't find anything that links Ford to the bailout Ford and Chrysler actually took. Testifying in favor of it and actually taking it are much different GM and Chrysler are both making money now, why not just pay the loss back. Hate to burst any bubbles but I've done my research on this subject.
  • What Microsoft needs to do is team up with Alpine or such and build a double CarPC. Add Here Drive to Windows 8, GPS Bluetooth and such and it will sell. Want vehicle info, just connect to a Bluetooth OBD scanner. I built my own running 8.1 but would pay for a Microsoft and Alpine combo one. I know it doesn't cover everything but car audio is a lucrative business and it would work.
  • Lol. BlackBerry.
  • Good, Sync is a complete mess. I have a 2013 e-350 with sync, and it is terrible
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  • I will say it again, if any have used Chrysler's 8.4 Uconnect system they would know why Ford went with QNX.
  • Why
  • I sell Ford vehicles. The funny thing is that SYNC is great, MYFORD TOUCH is not. It wasn't MS fault, it was Fords. While the system is good, it is not great by any means. Not MS fault from what my insiders have told me, it was Fords fault.
  • Yah, I've heard the same thing too! But I'll miss havin the Microsoft SYNC option in the new Ford's if this is true! Ford and Microsoft should have cooperated together to make it better, or redesign it. But we'll see how the QNX works out
  • I'm a blackberry user and it's really annoying to me that some users are bashing and arguing about each other's oses. In my perspective both phones have ups and downs, both companies has them goods and bads, and obviously ford did this for a reason, a reason that Microsoft should learn from and find a way to perfectly overcome it. But for those who were and still making fun of blackberry, I recommend trying one of their new phones, trust me you'll like it just like how I enjoyed WP after trying it out a several times. Watching you all having a smartphone war doesn't actually help your OS grow or gain users but probably making people hate it more through its community. Btw QNX is awesome I've been watching videos about it and it's pretty much epic! No wonder why ford ditched sync, probably Microsoft will work on something great like QNX. QNX is changing the concept of a vehicle and a smart car like ford needs a super smart, secure, modern, and visual interface like QNX
  • I never owned a BB, i had IPhone, android, WM6.x and decided that WP suites me more. "obviously ford did this for a reason, a reason that Microsoft should learn from and find a way to perfectly overcome it" I tottaly aggree with your point of view. There is no need for arguments and bad comments, every one choses what suits him best.
  • Don't buy a Ford until they release this new system, because your car will be obsolete... That's a shame they will miss CORTANA.
  • Mulally's Revenge!
  • I own a 2012 edge sport. Spent 40k easily and paying what I did for the car I expect the sync features to work everytime. I bought a 920 and the Bluetooth worked for about a few songs that I have saved on the phone. Then car would boot the music connection from the phone. The phone would lockup then require a reboot for the phone. Now I have purchased a 1520. Same deal as the 920. I'll get the boot. The killer is I use my nano ipod to listen to music thru my car and never had a problem and the nano ipod is 4 some years old. Also I can't even plug the phones strait into the jacks that r supplied to listen to the phone. And to b fair the two android phones I owned before windows phones never worked properly either. So I can easily see why ford would switch. Still love my car though and my 1520.
  • Gah, this is disappointing. Microsoft should have taken advantage of this, not fumbled it, though, let's be clear, Ford definitely deserves blame here, as well. They needed to properly power their infotainment systems. I have a Focus with MyFord Touch, and input delay and compatibility issues (my system doesn't work with my Lumia 920 when plugged into USB at all) are my two biggest issues.
  • There's the solution, MS should just buy QNX. It's only money.
  • Well, on my Mustang I still can't dictate text messages through SYNC with my Lumia 920. I understand it's specific to Nokia phones, but still. You'd think Microsoft products should work well together. That said, replying to a received text and making calls is the best system I've used in a car so far. Much better than my BMW I had before. They should've let Nokia handle it as they know navigation and apps.
  • Honestly I just had huge problems setting up Bluetooth with my moms car. The experience was so robotic and frustrating compared to the experience in my Kia. Maybe Ford should look to stop making their system so proprietary .
  • QNX is not a BB handset.. this is a different company and it happens to be a more powerfull than Apple&Msft. BB is on the come back and they are willing to do anything to get this account.
  • I'm a ford guy. I'd be a little more upset if I used the SYNC for anything really. Bluetooth voice and music from windows phone takes priority over SYNC in my vehicle as is.
  • Well, the automotive business cycles are a lot slower when it comes to internal tech than the rest of the world. They could change things, hell there could be other deals in the works. I think it would be silly for anyone to think MS would cede any ground in auto especially since telcos are partnering to provide services (other than services like onstar). It is a little surprising though, for me. I like the responsiveness I've observed in my friends Fords. My 2013 Cadillac CUE is dreadfully slow and only occasionally accurate. I read plenty of reviews and knew this going in : all auto UI and media management systems seem to be on equal footing if you read user forum and blogs (not industry reviews). The interesting thing to see is what Apple, etc bring to the table.
  • Just embed a 1520 into the dashboard. Bam.
  • Sync was loved when it was sync. Now it's a bloated touch screen POS. I love my QNX based iDrive but only because BMW didn't fall into the touch screen love fest. These issues fall directly onto Ford.
  • Most of the time you don't need touch. You can use voice commands.
  • I'm not surprised. Also as a windows phone user ms sync was not compatible with windows phone and really grated me the lack of support ms and ford offered. So meh really MS deserves this one if its true
  • Unbelieveable, they need to change their name from BlackBerry to something else if they are going to get into software other than phones. I was seriously looking forward to getting a new Explorer with Sync and all of the features, but knowing that its backend is going to be connected with BlackBerry, a Canadian dying company with no hope for a successful future in what it was originally for, I'm less excited. So they are trying a hand at licensing their software out for other things besides mobile, good for them, they need to do something. But if they are going to do that, they need to get rid of their BlackBerry name. Even the top of the line BlackBerry can't compete with bottom of the line windows phones, iphones (5s), or androids. This really sucks, I was really looking forward to Microsoft building on the current system and integrating more Microsoft services, cortana, etc. But, the bright light is that Microsoft will probably end up buying them.
  • Hey Mark... quick thing to point out. The Ford MyTouch issues aren't just according to crackberry.  These are widely reported issues ranging from owners to professional reviewers, up to consumer reports themselves.  Ford screwed up badly with the interface, and MS likely didn't help with the less than stellar software.  From what I remember Sync was a very solid and reliable technology.  It wasn't until MyTouch came around where it all kicked the can.  According to C&D, MS is still working on Kia/Hyundai's infotainment system, and apparently their stuff will show up in Fiat/Chrysler products in the future.  
  • Guys Sync has problems. Microsoft is spread too thin and should focus. Instead of putting out bad car software they should be fixing WP, XB1 and windows 8
  • Software (syncing) in cars is a terrible idea....it will be useless in used cars, like 8-track players. So what if it's cool today, what about tomorrow?
  • Not surprised. I have a Ford and use WP8 and Microsofts own phone OS is the least compatiple/supported with SYNC. sad but true and shows they need to tighten up
  • I think SYNC will be replaced by a variant of Windows RT optimized for a center car console.
  • Its just hilarious to see tech AND automobile fanboys go at it. :P
  • Hold on a second, ISN'T GM implementing the new MSFT tech into their cars?????, Who gives a shit about Ford, GM is enough
  • Wow I had no idea my Audi MMS system was powered by underlying BlackBerry s/w... or rather a company that BlackBerry acquired a few years ago. Its very good, stable and synchs perfectly with my Lumia 920.
  • QNX is an awesome OS and anything that allows the continued development of operating systems can only be a good thing. It stops people being complacent. Embedded OS space is a totally different kettle of fish to mobile or desktop.
  • Welp, it looks like we wont be buying another ford. Sync works great in my 2013 Flex and my wife's 2014 expedition.
  • I've never considered myself THAT much of a fanboy, but this kind of pisses me off. Of all the tings to blow. Had they're foot in the door of a completely different industry and let it slip through their hands. Microsoft has had their product in Fords for how many years now and nobody really knows about it? And those that do know it's not a good product. This could have been a product that would have pulled Microsoft into focus for a completely different group of consumers. ... my opinion anyway
  • Wow this is kind of a shame. I have been really impressed with how easy it was to use my phone in conjunction with the Sync system in my truck. Pairs fast and everything works just as it should. Wasn't the case though with the Android set I tried out for a while-- sure it would pair but I kept having to fiddle with it to get music working (like every time, not sure why) and I never could get it to read me my SMS messages. The functionality difference was night and day (WP vs. Android pairing to Sync, not a huge surprise I guess).
  • Ford and blackberry make a good combo they both really suck bad bad bad hahaha do two negatives really make a positive
  • Half ya'll niggas need to get some pussy to calm the fuck down!
  • Meh, ford can go to QNX or what ever base software they want. At the end of the day, it is what the consumer experience on the top level that counts (how the system is designed and implemented). If that is crap and poorly maintained then that is what people will experience. Essentially Ford is looking for a scape goat for its own failings. Furthermore MS doesn't manage sync - Ford does it is based off a forked version of windows ce. The voice reg they use is not based on Tellme either. So it is really not Microsoft's loss.
  • One more reason not to buy a Ford.
  • By the way, I was just wondering: What happened to Mike Rowesoft?