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Some guy on the web scribbled mean things about WP7 (before it has been released)

We won't call this a "review" since last we checked the Windows Phone 7 OS has yet to be finished, nor are there any consumer phones out there to evaluate.

Despite all of that, someone at InfoWorld managed to cobble enough words together to almost form a coherent rant about the direction Microsoft has taken with Windows Phone 7.

Look, we get it--some people really like the 'Metro' UI and some don't. That's cool. But basing your whole critique on your personal aesthetics and then going ahead and predicting failure months before release is a bit, ahem, shortsighted and naive.

Considering no functionality or cloud services like Xbox, Zune store, Sharepoint, Office, Skydrive, Live Phone, Outlook, Bing was even mentioned, let a lone discussed, we have to say that this "piece" fairs only slightly higher than "angry message forum rant" and pretty much fits the notion of internet trolling. That and only that is where "Windows Phone 7: Don't bother with this disaster" accomplishes its goal and to you, Mr. Gruman, a golf-clap.

So if you're excited about a craptacular read, click away. Otherwise, lets all move on...

[Thanks? Anonymous Tipper]

Daniel Rubino
Daniel Rubino

Daniel Rubino is the Executive Editor of Windows Central, head reviewer, podcast co-host, and analyst. He has been covering Microsoft here since 2007, back when this site was called WMExperts (and later Windows Phone Central). His interests include Windows, Microsoft Surface, laptops, next-gen computing, and arguing with people on the internet.

26 Comments
  • Sorry Mal, As a developer of WM6.x software, I agree with most of what that writer said. I will probably rewrite one of my smaller apps for WP7 and test the waters, but I have decided to go droid with my personal phone and re-evaluate next year. It just seems that Microsoft is doing their typical one step forward - two steps back, using the words like "can't" and "NO" too often with WP7 developers.
  • Infoworld obsessively hates MS. It is one of the few reviewers that berated Windows 7, when practically everyone else gushed over it. Infoworld is just being its usual self.
  • I think the inforworld article is right on the money. All the demos I've seen so far of WP7 has been very control. The multi-touch gestures seems flacky at best. Who cares about all the nonsence about office hubs, xbox, sharepoint, avatars, ect. Apple iPhones has all the users, and guess what, no a single one of them care about xbox, office, sharepoint on the iphones. Microsoft needs to be demoing more consumer friendly features. Matter of fact, all lot of those demos show empty hubs, nobody has seen a full demo, just this business oriented nonsense
  • How isn't xbox gaming on a phone a consumer friendly feature? I think it's the biggest one besides how it aggregates all your information into hubs. There's been demos of a populated games, office, people, pictures, and zune hubs.
  • Who cares about Xbox, Office, and Sharepoint being on the phone... Not a single person and that's the feature microsoft choses to talk about. A Windows phone demo is more like a demo of Bing or Sharepoint. Bings map takes forever to load and is very slow to draw completely... they should concern themselves with that. Most folks used their phone socially (Email, MMS, Photos, and the third party apps), who cares about accessing sharepoint that Micorsoft would based their entire demo of their phone trying to sell this? Are you kidding me... the world largest software company, with all the smart engineers, and they can't figure out 'cut and paste'... this is shameful. The transition from the Hub even hurts my eyes, with stuff flying off the screen... this thing is DOA... Microsoft should concern themselves with developing a fast and responsive UI,with fluid navigation.
  • Man, can you be more off the mark or what? Who cares about Xbox? All the Xbox gamers. Who cares about Office? Those who use it for work. Sharepoint? Ditto with the office people. WP7 does email, MMS, photos and all the rest you bring up very well also, so honestly, I don't see what the heck you're smoking.
  • I have to agree with Malatesta. There are some flaws in WP7 as it stands right now, but hell for a version 1 attempt it's a damn good one. WebOS has multi tasking but terrible terrible battery life. IPhone/IOS 4 are having growing pains as well. What will make the difference is if MS will offer continual upgrades to the existing phones. If I can get a phone that is somewhat future proof for two years as far as updates and new features then they may have something.
  • Wow, what an article....if I didn't have to register, I would have some choice words for him...
  • I guess today is "I hate WP7 day", did I miss the announcement? :) What a bunch of BS in that article, smacks of one guy's personal issues with Microsoft. I think the article was designed to generate extra traffic to that site and it worked, got me to go there :) All the issues he mentioned seem to be just rants, multitasking for instance works similarly to the iphone yet he didnt write an article on how that will be a disaster. C&P has been confirmed as coming in an update, so no need to lose your hair because its not there at launch. Android too had things missing at launch, rapid updates have helped there. Email looks like DOS? Guess he needs an email program to have fancy icons before its acceptable. As for the demos, people were complaining previously that WP7 is so focused on consumers they would be giving the enterprise to RIM, well with the demos highlighting the enterprise integration that question is put to rest while more consumer features have been announced (windows phone live). As for who wants Xbox, Office, Sharepoint on their phone? Not everyone will want ALL those features but some will want at least one so having them all appeals to a greater audience. Its obvious this "writer" doesnt like WP7, and not everyone will but there are those who like it as well, just as with other platforms. Personally I think it will be a hit, slow start but will pick up steam fast and by this time next year a lot of people will be singing a different tune as to it being a "disaster".
  • The only real problem I have with your theory of a few misses at the beginning is that Microsoft has the advantage of history to see what they need to do. They have 3 years of iPhone, and 2 years of Android to see what they are doing and write the OS with features that people want, and they are missing the boat bigtime with: No Multi-tasking
    No Side-Loading
    No Flash
    No Silverlight in browser
    Silverlight 3 (instead of 4)
    No cross-app access
    etc. I don't think it will be the unqualified disaster that the writer of the article thinks it will be, but I also don't think it will be anything you would call a success either. They need to take a cue from Apple, and get it right the first time, but we all know they won't do that.
  • The iphone was released into a market where multitasking, copy & paste, sideloading existed but it still did well. Several things not available at launch will be available after release - adobe has said they plan to release flash within Q1 2011, MS has said SL will be in the browser in the future. The issue of sideloading is minor, the target consumer for WP7 wont be going out scouring Xda or other sites for programs, the marketplace will be more than enough. Its only hackers and so-called power users who need this, the average consumer wont care. No Multitasking is also not an issue because 3rd party applications will be saved in the last state they were if you switch away from them and there when you return. Only question for me is GPS applications, but we have yet to hear definitely on such scenarios. Anything else is irrelevant as long as the OS works and works well. And I think the main factor in its success or failure is not the lack of features rather successful marketing of features it does have and getting the message across on how this is the only platform where you can get Xbox, Zune, bing, access to Skydrive and 25GB of storage and other WP7 exclusive features. Considering the iphone was successful on the strength of its marketing when it lacked features compared to the competition I see no reason why WP7 wont be successful as well.
  • The iPhone was released 3 years ago. It has multi-tasking and copy/paste today. WP7 is not being released 3 years ago, its being released this year. Adobe has clarified their stance and is taking a wait-and-see attitude regarding development for WP7. They have done nothing more than "endorse" WP7 in an attempt to pressure Apple to allow Flash on iPhone. Sideloading is a BIG issue. Maybe not in consumer circles, but it is big for apps I write for customers. They don't want EVERYONE having access to an app they have to access their private data. Microsoft is making a big mistake not supporting business with WP7. You sound like a Microsoft Evangelest with the statement, "Anything else is irrelevant...". Don't get me wrong, I am a developer that develops exclusively for MS products but this product is really just short-sighted in my opinion.
  • WP7 and the iphone implementation of multitasking is very similar so that argument is a wash, neither of them has true multitasking like WM or android. Copy and paste is not there at launch but at least MS implemented something else, Smartsensing unlike apple which had nothing at all. As for adobe, this is the last thing I heard, maybe you have more recent info but AFAIK Flash will be coming - http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/adobe-flash-for-windows-phone-7-confirmed Again I say Sideloading is not a big issue for CONSUMERS, as you are a developer you obviously have a different opinion which is valid, but MS did say they will have a solution for that for enterprise so we will have to see what happens there. And I think the general view is that MS is targeting consumers with the first release and more robust enterprise features (like sideloading) will be introduced later. As for sounding like an evangelist, maybe I am (but I'm not getting paid:) ) but in my view a lot of the things that are missing at launch are irrelevant for consumers, they generally want good social network features, email, music & video features and games. If MS gets that right and gets some good marketshare with the initial launch they can build on that and add more features later on. Which they can do as they aren't being held back from providing updates by companies like HTC or carriers.
  • The point was that iPhone was released 3 years ago and they just now caught up with some of the features WM has had for years and even Android and webOS had before them. 3 years and 4 iterations isn't "getting it right the first time" and neither is having a weird bug that happens when you hold the phone. Also, since when does the iPhone allow sideloading? Additionally, as a developer, why would it be awesome to you that Apple gets to decide whether or not people can get to your apps or not even when many of them want to (as in the case of Flash)? Yeah, WP7 is going to have the same basic thing, but sideloading has been said to be allowed for certain cases, like enterprise/IT use, and I'm fairly certain they won't be as elitist bitchtastic as Apple is during their app review process. Lastly, as was pointed out, they aren't going to release WP7 to the market and just leave it there for a year and a half. Unlike the iPhone, WP7 is going to have many different models coming out in different times, so they're more than likely going to keep pumping out updates when they're ready. They didn't plan on coming out with an explosion and then forgetting it (i.e., actual short-sightedness); they planned to get out there and run to work for their goal even if they have to run while putting their shoes on. People here keep reminding others: this is a marathon, not a sprint. That's why some of us are okay with WP7 not being feature perfect out the gate.
  • The iPhone has bing too and instead of Zune it has the infinitely more successful iPod. Personally, I see WP7 being about as successful as WebOS.
  • Why isn't Bing maps smooth like Google maps... Why isn't the touch gesture smoooth like the iPhone.. Why doesn't WP7 have a beautiful enertia/page scrolling like the iPhone. Why does clicking or touching on a 'tile' makes the other tiles slowly fades away one by one instead of having a different navigation metaphor...this is such a bad navigation design and is even bad for the eyes over time... MS should take care of the core fundamentals.... a very fast, snappy and responsive UI with efficient scrolling. In all the demos, the tile or icon doesn't respond to touch in a consistent manner and have to be touch 'multiple' times before it works... If you can't demostrate the you perform the core well, why should anyone care? You can call anyone an MS Hater all you want, but at the end of the day, the writer has a point and those flaws are very obvious, and all you know that. At the end of the day, what makes Apple iPhone a hit has to do more with a pleasing and beautiful UI (icons, ects)... than xbox, sharepoint,.. those square Hubs are so ugly... and MS idea about theming is giving the hubs different colors?
  • I'm sure that bing maps will be plenty smooth when it launches. Emulators are always a bit slower and although it's out of alpha, the emulator, the sdk, and even the OS aren't even done yet. I felt the page scrolling worked real well in the emulator. Using a mouse instead of touch will make it feel a bit differeent. MS is taking care of the fundamentals, the emulator is a lot better than it was previously and I fully expect it to be a step or two faster on a real device. I find the xbox integration to be better than static icons on a grid. Right now for the themes you can choose a white base or a black base and you have about a dozen accent colors. All the hubs have dedicated backgrounds that will change regularly. The whole UI is fluid and alive. I feel that this is a plus instead of a group of icons.
  • It's funny how every one is touting multi-tasking in IOS 4, even in the article the aurthor talks about how the iphone has multi-tasking and that wp7 does not have this suddenly "must have" feature. Yet he doesn't seem to be aware that iphones multi-tasking is limited to selective apps and core porgrams like music and mail. How is this any better than the multi-tasking microsoft is impleting? Author made no mention of microsoft's push notifcations, and the ability to save the sate of the apps. He's totally clueless. Microsoft is not copying the iphone in any way, its an entirely differen't ui, with a totally different metaphore of what mobile computing is like. This is what makes this platform promising. And any professional tech reviewer would be knowledgable enough to realize its a bit silly complain about things such as "smootheness" on what is essintally beta software on prototype devices.
  • That author is an idiot who doesn't like the UI. That alone doesn't make one an idiot, but nothing in the article screams MS failure at all. I think there is a large market for WP7 and time will tell as such. I know people who only live in the now will not agree with this next thought: How long do you think people will continue to buy a new yearly iteration of the same iPhone? I am only 32 but I remember when Palm was literally untouchable with the Treo series. Then Blackberry was king of the hill. Nothing lasts forever and no phone, not even the iPhone can keep consumer interest forever. Something new always steals old thunder. Not saying that WP7 is the next big thing, but hey, iPhone took over with far less capabilities than its competition, so nitpicking about features Joe Blow doesn't understand anyway is completely missing the point.
  • I think the UI is beautiful - FAR more than the boring iOS UI. The scrolling doesn't bother me, either. Like a rational consumer I do research on whatever product I am purchasing, so I have known about scrolling to the side for half a year now. Cut and Paste is a function I want, but it will be implemented soon. Multitasking - if WP7 does the save state thing I see no problem in the world with it. Sideloading - who cares? If you're worried about others having access to an app, there are workarounds in WP7 - MS has already commented on it before and it would behoove you to look up the available information on that. Other than that, an App Store is adequate. The browser doesn't support HTML5 which is a big deal, but the browser can and will be updated - MS has stated as much. And so little content is using HTML5 that they have time to implement it before it becomes a real issue. Flash will be released on it shortly. Lots of people care about Office and XBox on their phone. Those are two HUGE draws. XBox is a great gaming brand, and games are a big thing on phones nowadays. Please understand that. And I use Office constantly - I am extatic about its inclusion. Long and short, it looks to be an excellent platform set to pick up the very few missing features shortly, and until then I'll still be satisfied. My wife has an iPhone 4 and it is extremely unappealing to me, though of course functional. I'll be on board from day one, and downloading any apps that developers are kind enough to release. I'm sure there will be many others who do, as well.
  • I came across this from a tweet, then I came across this post on TechMeme:
    http://phone7.wordpress.com/2010/07/15/wp7-dont-bother-with-this-disaster-hmm/ The guy dismantles it....
  • Author Galen Gruman, Executive Editor, Macworld, November 1994
  • Funny, in my humble opinion this ENTIRE THREAD misses the most important factors that lead to the phenomenal iPhone success: 1) SOLID AND CONSISTENT ADVERTISING SHOWING BUYERS WHAT COOL THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH THE IPHONE - BRANDING AND BENEFITS!! 2) A DIRECT TO CONSUMER SOFTWARE UPGRADE MODEL CONTROLLED BY APPLE - iTUNES. 3) SLICK, GOOD LOOKING HARDWARE DESIGN AND ONE-BUTTON-SIMPLE APPLICATION LAUNCHING AND THE SPRINGBOARD INTERFACE. 4) PIGGIE-BACKING COOL/CACHE FROM IPODS TO IPHONES. Sorry for the caps, but the emphasis is really important. Apple's iPhone success was never based on being more "powerful." It was about making something your 5, 15, 25 and 50 year old could understand and use. Go to an ATT store and ask the folks working there the average age iPhone, Android and Windows Mobile phone buyers. Here's what you'll learn - the WinMo phone buyer is male, and age 35+. (It's like Windows Mobile is the Prog Rock of OS's - espoused by ernest men of a certain age with a preponderance toward facial hair to compensate for what they're losing up top - good stuff if you appreciate the talent involved, but still maligned in the press. I guess Android is the Indie/Hipster OS, while iOS is all HipHop/Punk Rock/Pop Star OS) Had MSFT provided solid and consistent advertising of its Windows Mobile phones, showing the cool things users could do, then MSFT could have defined for everyone what features and capabilities should be important. But they didn't. They were totally blindsided by Apple, and organizationally MSFT had no vision for how important mobile phones would become. Had MSFT designed an software upgrade process that bypassed phone carriers.... Had MSFT migrated from stylii to finger based interfaces... So, NOW MSFT has an opportunity to address these problems. Most important will be their market education campaign. They need to show what is cool and possible to do (from a customer's point of view). I remember seing iPhone ads maybe 4 or 5 times a night on network TV.. Apple really defined what users should expect from a modern phone. Similarly, Motorola/Verizon has created "Droid" awareness. Notice thAt HTC ads never name an OS? Apple doesn't advertise about the OS. DUH! Each know it's not about BANDING the OS for their success. It's about BRANDING the phone and The Benefits for users and what it enables! NOW, MSFT needs to learn these lessons... And their job now is much harder than it would have been five years ago...
  • Oh the truth hurts so bad.
  • For what it is worth it might have been honest of Galen (the writer mentioned - that wasn't a review - InfoWorld actually does have strict rules for those) to acknowledge that he was an editor at MacWorld for many years and is a well known and passionate advocate for many Apple products. That doesn't mean he doesn't know about and cover many other things but context is helpful.
  • I pretty much agree with the article: WP7 is iphone2007-lite.