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A Windows phone diehard FINALLY embraced Android — here's how it's going so far

I've been using Windows phones exclusively since 2006. My first smartphone (second cell phone) was the Cingular 2125 running Windows Mobile 5.0, and I loved it. I've enjoyed all of my Windows phones. From Windows Mobile 5.0 to Windows Phone 7.5, to Windows Phone 8 and 8.1 to Windows 10 Mobile, devices powered by Microsoft's mobile platform have been my portal to the smartphone experience.

I web surfed, played music, watched movies, ran apps, took pictures, accessed Office documents and more with my Cingular 2125 which introduced me to mobile computing before Apple's iPhone "mainstreamed" consumer smartphones in 2007. The productivity power and versatility of "Windows in my pocket" has long appealed to me, though Microsoft has yet to perfect the pocket computer vision I embraced.

So even through the waves of disappointments familiar to enthusiasts who've endured the promises and failures of Windows-on-phone, I held on to what I liked through the years. I liked Windows phone. I like Windows phone. But neither sentiment, preference, nor hope was sufficient to keep me tethered to a platform that could no longer meet my current and evolving needs. So, this Christmas I gifted my wife (who has been increasingly adamant about switching) and I with LG Stylo 4 (opens in new tab)'s running Android.

Long story short, this diehard Windows phone fan loves Android (so far). What follows is not a review of Android, nor a review of the midrange phones I've chosen. This is my visceral reaction to the Android smartphone experience through the eyes of a true-blue Windows phone fan.

Windows phone refugees may not find asylum on iPhone

The multi-dimensional Windows phone fan

Before proceeding, here's something you should know. Beyond being a Windows phone fan, I am a tech fan. And that tech does not have to have a Microsoft label on it. Though I've preferred Microsoft's ecosystem, my exclusive use of Windows phones, rather than multiple platforms/devices, is attributable more to financial limitations rather than super fandom.

This may shock those who have followed my ongoing analysis of Microsoft's mobile strategy, but if I were able, I would have multiple devices from multiple ecosystems. Since, however, I am limited in what I can afford I have stuck with my preference – Windows phones. That said, I love Android on my LG Stylo 4.

Ironically, one of the things I'm enjoying most about Android is something I loved about the Windows Mobile of old – the openness of the platform. Windows Mobile 5.0 and 6, were a "tinkerers playground" of sorts. Though the initial absence of an app store and later introduction of a modest app marketplace left us early adopters exposed to the dangers of the web as we downloaded apps, shells, and more from the "wild west" of the internet, we were able to make our phones' UI or experience what wanted. I viewed the out of the box Windows phone experience as "vanilla" or "incomplete," until modified to a user's liking after visiting sites like XDA developers or loading ones preferred set of goodies and modifications.

Choose your own Android adventure

My initial experiences with android are reminiscent of the Windows Mobile experience I enjoyed. Though less "wild west," the ability to control minute details related to changing themes, icons, backgrounds, launchers, text and much more to give different UI experiences is reminiscent of some of what was lost when Microsoft moved from the more open Windows Mobile to the more restricted Windows Phone to combat the iPhone's consumer- and touch-friendly experience.

I had planned to write an article, at the time, slamming Microsoft's choice to "dumb down" its mobile platform to cater to the iPhone-seduced masses lured in by the simplicity of the "app launcher" iOS user interface. I called live tiles "eye-candy" and saw Windows Phone 7 as a shadow of its predecessor. With the Windows Phone 7.5 Mango update, I changed my tune. I was won over to the HTC Titan, which I chose over a Samsung Galaxy I was eyeing.

Still, I am reminded of the sentiments of some former Windows Mobile users who embraced Android early on because they enjoyed the Windows Mobile-like degree of control it offered. I've long understood why they eschewed Windows Phone and the iPhone's restricted platform, and what I was sacrificing by not doing the same. Now, though a little late to the party I am enjoying those benefits first-hand.

Part of your world

Ariel from The Little Mermaid sang a song, "Part of Your World" as she expressed her yearning not only to see the lives of those on land but to be a part of that life. To do so, however, she needed legs. A Windows phone user yearns to be a part of mainstream mobile computing, but we need apps. Ariel had to give up her voice. I had to give up my Lumia. In the end, Ariel was happy. So am I.

I am not a heavy app user and got along ok with Windows phone by eking along using websites, poor third- and first-party apps, and the few quality apps (i.e., MyTube) the platform supported. The absence of SnapChat and some other popular apps had little impact on me. I admittedly have been frustrated for years when venues encouraged or advertised the use of their app, their Android or iPhone app, with no acknowledgment that Windows phones even existed.

A growing frustration has been missing apps that are useful for me and my wife's growing small business. As a new Android convert the experience of knowing the apps I want or need are there evokes a feeling of assurance to which I, as a Windows phone user, am not accustomed. The default assumption has always been that an app I may want would not be available on Windows phones. Anecdotally, my Roku remote broke some time ago, and I assumed there was no Roku app on Windows Mobile. It turned out there was. But expectations for the Windows phone app experience are just that bad. Like the elephant chained to a stake in its youth is conditioned not to pull against a mere rope when it is older, Windows phone users are conditioned not to expect much in the way of apps. My expectations are much higher now that I'm on Android.

The look and feel

I loved the Windows Phone 7.5 aesthetic. It was smooth, and the minimalistic presentation and carousel UI appealed to me. Windows 10 Mobile, lost some of that appeal. Still, I prefer Windows phones sleek, minimalistic, flat, UI and system-wide dark theme. I prefer Live Tiles and the information they present over the "badges" atop icons in Android. I miss both the dedicated camera button and the search button on my Window phone as well. Still, there are things I love about Android.

Transition effects are small touches that go a long way in contributing to a great UI experience. When pulling down the notification center, pulling up the app drawer or interacting with the UI In any number of ways, I greatly enjoy the transition affects Android offers.

I also love the ability to do split screen to operate two apps simultaneously, or the way Android allows a video, Google Maps, the phone app and more to run on top of another app. So cool.

I find it ironic that Microsoft, the makers of Windows never brought these capabilities to Windows phones. I also like that Google Maps is more comprehensive, shows a photo of the destination location upon arrival and that the speech is more natural than what is found on Windows phone. And small touches like automatically offering to save the location of where I parked my car are great for someone like me who chronically forgets such things.

The displaying of album art on the lock screen when playing music is a nice return to an abandoned Windows phone media experience. Ironically, I believe Android pilfered this pleasantry from Windows phone.

I use both Google Assistant and Cortana and will delve further into that experience as time goes on.

Final thoughts

Overall, I am enjoying my move to Android as is my wife. She cried when she opened the box on Christmas and saw two LG Stylo 4 boxes with heart-shaped cut-outs affixed to each, one labeled "his" and the other labeled "hers." As a techie, I usually seek the latest and greatest, and as I've expressed in the past, the Samsung Galaxy Note is my ideal Android device. But my wife and I are together taking this leap into mainstream smartphone computing via Android using the midrange LG Stylo 4.

Over the years, I've convinced a lot of people to switch to Windows phones. All of them, save my father-in-law who plans to give it up this year, have since ditched it. My sister-in-law, who switched from Windows phone to Android told me that I would love Android. So far she's right.

Full disclosure: I have "Microsoftified" my phone with Microsoft Launcher. I use Microsoft's Office suite for productivity, Outlook mail, OneDrive for cloud storage and OneNote, along with other Microsoft apps. I've experimented with Live Tile shells Launcher 10 and Square Home. I also still carry my Lumia 1020 as a second line and my 950XL is rarely far away. And if Microsoft finally launches the rumored Surface "Andromeda," I'll be front and center. As the saying goes, "Old habits are hard to break."

Jason L Ward is a columnist at Windows Central. He provides unique big picture analysis of the complex world of Microsoft. Jason takes the small clues and gives you an insightful big picture perspective through storytelling that you won't find *anywhere* else. Seriously, this dude thinks outside the box. Follow him on Twitter at @JLTechWord. He's doing the "write" thing!

  • Since switching back to Android after my 1520 haven't missed WP since. I wanted to love it and did, but honestly realized how much I missed Android rich features when I got the Note 5 now on 8. Windows had the hardest uphill fight ever and couldn't get it over the peak.
  • I have to say I just did this last week after having every single version of Microsoft phones starting with the flip phone from Motorola that Windows on it. Although I chose to go to OnePlus 6T for the lack of bloatware from the phone manufacturers. I still miss my Lumia 950 as it was a cleaner interface and showed information about my messages, etc. in a much cleaner way. I am using Microsoft Launcher and haven't yet played with the tiles interfaces. Did not know if they would interfere with Microsoft Launcher. One major issue I have with Android is how every app wants access to everything on your phone and not information is given as to why an app would need access to your camera/microphone/call logs, etc. etc.
  • Love my OnePlus 6T as well, but I definitely miss my Lumia 640 XL. It's the phone that got me to stick with international dual-SIM phones. Amazing device.
  • That's exactly why I went to iOS. Every app doesn't need access to my camera, contacts, messages, location, etc. If I pay $$$ for a device I should be able to delete any app I want! I use an android at work and it is a data mining OS. I know all tech uses data but not to this extent!!
  • Whew! At least you didn't go iPhone. hehehe
  • I went to iPhone after I trashed my Lumia 950 XL. A new XR is arriving this week in fact. I was curious though about Android with Microsoft Launcher. I use Microsoft services for e-mail, cloud storage, etc. My father just bought a Pixel 3 XL, which I tried to setup to be as Microsoft as I could. After spending a couple weeks playing with it, I have come to the conclusion I don't like Android. It was quite confusing to setup, and just doesn't feel good with the UI. Sure, there are a few things I really don't like about the iPhone as well. No USB-C, can't set default apps, etc. But I still think it's a superior experience to Android with what I have seen. There is one area that everyone in my family misses, and that's how Windows Phone worked in the car with Bluetooth. Neither Android or iOS will announce new SMS messages or read them back. This doesn't bother my wife or I since our vehicles have CarPlay. If you are straight Bluetooth though, you are out of luck.
  • the same thing happened to me. I switched from a windows phone to an iPhone 7 . I liked the experience but it wasn't complete so I switched it to a galaxy S8 which is a great device. you can set Microsoft apps as defaults and use Microsoft launcher, but something about the android experience didn't feel well so I2 weeks ago I switched back to iPhone . I miss some settings on it(like usb type c and default apps) but I feel the overall experience much better.
    I miss the Bluetooth settings in a windows phone but what I more miss is the ability to use cortana on older cars. my phone automatically added cortana as a contact in my car agenda so I could add it as a favorite number and use the voice command.
  • Don't new iPhone use Type C?
  • MS launcher isn't bad. It's kinda like WP, in a way, then again, all this stuff is really similar. After using Android I realize how much it's like WP, and vice-versa. Some things are just standard because they just work. I will say this, though... Android is good, but the apps are really what make is bareable. If you leveled the playing field, and gave WP the apps, and features, of Android,, WP would be by far the best option. WP just is more cohesive, polished, and less cartoonish than Android. And, the start screen is gold next to the hit or miss nature of these corny functioning widgets. But, Android works, and it has a ton of options. Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying my Note 9, but for such awesome hardware the OS is corn balls. I guess I'm just used to WP more "executive" feel. Android is honestly just a confused ball mess, and nothing relates to anything next to it. From an overall UX/UI experience WP (especially 8.1) is just more pleasurable to use, period, point blank. But, WP doesn't have apps, features, devices, or support, so that's that. As far as MS's launcher for Android is concerned, it's nice, but it would be Awesome if they added an option to go totally "Metro/Modern" if you like. There is square home, but it's kinda corny, WP simulation, and no. I'm loving these apps, but right now I can't admit to having any OS that I love to use... And, for Jason W,, the luster of Android wears fast. You'll see exactly what I'm talking about. Not that you're not going to enjoy your device, rather it just doesn't have the poise that WP "had".
  • Check out 'Launcher 10'. It has live tiles and looks pretty damn bang on to W10M and you can customize it alot
  • OK, I don't know if I've ever used that one, but I will definitely check it out. Thanks!!
  • Hey Rodney, trust me, as a techy I'm enjoying Android just because it's tech, as well as for some of the things I identified and didn't identify in the piece. And I know this is my "honeymoon" period, that's why right fron the beginning of the piece I said I'm enjoying Android *(so far) *. 😉 I know as I become more accustomed to it and as the things I identified later in the piece that I prefer about Windows Phone become "less looked over", the luster may begin to wear off a bit. I'm already anticipating that possibility. Like you and many others, I prefer many things about WP. Sleeker, smoother, miminalustic, Live Tiles, keyboard, search button, back button, bottom position of address bar, dedicated camera button on most WPs, system-wide dark theme and more. Even things that we lost, ME Tile, Hubs, social network integration, family room and more. Still, the reality is there are some things I need in order to get things done and both platforms have pros and cons. But for where I am personally and where me and my wife's business is going, we living with the cons of Android (even once the luster wears off) is more beneficial than living with the cons of WP. Also, as I say in the end, I have a foot in both words. 😉 I'm still carrying my 1020 as a second line and still use the 950XL on WiFi😊 That does two things. It constantly reinforces for me the differences between the platforms. It highlights some of the things I prefer about Android. And reminds me about many things I prefer about WP. 😏 I wish Ms could just get it right with the app situation and a nice modern device. If they did we wouldn't even be having this conversation. 😀
  • Lol.. I love your last sentence, Jason. You are spot on about everything you said. I agree with you 1000%... This is one reason why I say that Andromeda would be perfect if it ran Windows with Android apps,,, ANNNDDD a killer camera! Nevertheless, life goes on, and being able to deposit checks from my credit unions app is something I can do now. Guess we can't have our cake, and eat it too🙄🙄🙄🙄
  • "miminalustic". Is that a typo in minimalistic? Or did you really mean "l-u-s-t-i-n-g after minimal"? Either way, I like that word. 😀 Wow, hard to believe that l......g gets censored. I had to put - between each letter. Really?
  • in windows phone it will track multiple instances of previous apps open. if you were looking at texts from a few different people it will show multiple text app instances you can quickly go back to. same for mailbox folder viewing and other things. in iOS and Android I've only ever seen it show one instance for the last view of the app rather than keeping track of everything you had open. this is why android and iOS suck compared to the way windows phone works
  • Having been a "Windows in the pocket" user since 2003, I'm still very rarely ever inconvenienced by apps. I remember when apps weren't even a thing outside of a calculator more or less lol. Apple essentially had a hand in the downfall of Windows on the go by turning the web into local/native apps, rather than embracing it. Google could have ended this years ago, but seems to be stuck in the this weird dichotomy of using both native apps and the web. The perfect middle ground is pwa's. Speaking of which, where are they? Wasn't this supposed to be the promise that helped keep Microsoft in the app game? Regardless, I still have a similar story as Jason. Finances partially made some of my tech decisions. I was carrying a Dell Axim, a crappy prepaid flip phone, an ipod shuffle (the hp branded thumbdrive model) and a psp gen 1. Then the Treo 700w came out and that's when all of the other stuff went away and I early adopted the 1 device dream. I merely carried a charger, a spare battery and bluetooth headphones along with the device everywhere I went. Although there were times that I could have used a dedicated device or 2, I was restricted financially. Around that time I was also aligning myself with 1 ecosystem and that ended up being all Microsoft. The other issue for me is just the platform in general, I'm not into bolting ecosystems onto other platforms. Nor am I into linux style platforms, though I can appreciate them. Maybe this is all silly and does't make any sense, but for me it starts from the ground up. Windows OS at the core and then everything else on top. As a matter of fact, Windows 10 on arm was recently ported to all Windows mobiles/phones, so with a little work both my 950xl and my Elite x3 will be running real Windows. For the last 3 years I've been exclusively using Skype for all incoming and outgoing calls and Outlook for all sms. The biggest app inconvenience for me is the flaky Facebook Messenger app on Mobile not always being able to make phone calls. Other than that, it's business as usual.
  • I had this so often. Wait, Android can't do that? Oh, for this i need an app running in background?
  • i mean its ok to use two phones. i still have my Lumia and an android.
  • EXACTLY! And, the truth is that the camera on my 950 is way better than sorry ass 12mp camera on my $1000 Note 9... It's sad, but it's the truth. I still take my shoots with my 950 because they just have more detail, and they can be edited on my Note 9.
  • The 950 camera is like Note 6 level quality. It isn't in the same league as the Note 9. You mistake megapixels/resolution for quality. It is always in last place against other phones of its time in blind tests:
  • Sad to see another one go.
    When my time comes, I'll work with the SailfishOS community.
  • My family, employees and I all were forced to switch to Android recently too. My biggest concern is that none of us have found a way to receive and reply to SMS texts over Bluetooth, as we had all done seamlessly with our Windows phones for years (so critical that I assumed that every platform had this functionality). I have heard that it should be possible, using the Microsoft Launcher and Cortana, but no success yet (even with the beta versions). We are running Android 9.0 (Pie) on Nokia 6.1/7.1 phones. Are we missing something?
  • That is the biggest thing as I mentioned in my comment above. Neither Android or iOS can do this. They expect you to use Android Auto or CarPlay. I have CarPlay in my van that I use with my iPhone. But even with that, it doesn't announce new text messages like Windows Phone did. And for my family members who only have Bluetooth in their car, it's a terrible experience on Android or iPhone.
  • I thought all cars did this with the phone connected by Bluetooth. Man, one more reason to hold on to my Windows phone. I would miss that function and feature terribly.
  • You would think, given the emphasis on distracted driving. I have no doubt Apple and Google could do this, and it just baffles me that they don't. Maybe someone just needs to get Pichai and Cook into a car with a Windows Phone user so they can experience it. I'm sure the reaction would be 'why the hell don't we do that???' I actually haven't tried it, but you can run Android Auto on a phone independent of some special radio. It is supposed to replicate what you can do with a connected system. I primarily use an iPhone and don't have CarPlay in my car.
  • I use CarPlay and it reads the text messages out loud and lets me respond verbally. Maybe I’m missing something here.
  • The difference is you have to ask Siri to read them. She doesn't announce the message and ask if you want her to read it. Everything requires manual intervention.
  • It should require manual intervention to listen to a message when appropriate as nothing should distract you from driving. Apple is doing it right.
  • Hey guys, have you tried downloading Read Text Messages 2me? It's in the Google Play Store and does simulate a lot of this functionality. As a Windows Phone to Android convert myself, I have used it on my OnePlus 6T and previous devices to simulate some of the experience (though it isn't as perfect). Try it and see if it's something you can use:
  • I have the MS Launcher being doing voice to text for sending text and vice versa to send a text.
  • pbilk, how were you able to configure MS Launcher to automatically announce text message receipt and offer read/reply options?
  • JoshNay, thanks for the tip! The Read Text. Messages 2me does what I need, 100% hands free and configuable to user preferences (automatically announce messages, auto replys, Bluetooth only, etc).
  • Neither my Genesis nor my wife's Mercedes has Android Auto nor CarPlay. What is needed is a solution that works with any Bluetooth connection, just as Windows phones have done out of the box for years.
  • Same here. I'll keep holding on to this one.
  • Thats rubbish and stop sprouting lies. You can use bluetooth and google assistant to read out and respond to text messages. On my S8 in the car I hold down the voice key on my BMW, this launches google assistant. Here is a run down of what it can do:
    - navigate to XYZ and google maps is launched
    - whatsapp XYS and it sends the message
    - open app XYZ and it does If you actually spend some time and learn rather then being a apple fan boy (you hate the surface go as well and prefer your IPAD) you might be able to inform people correctly
  • It's almost as bad as idiotic reviewers on who buy a product and complain that it doesn't work because they are too dumb to figure out how to use it lol.
  • It sounds like I will still have to perform some input to initiate the process each time (push a button, on vehicles that have such, ask Google Assistant to do a function), while the Windows approach was 100% hands free. While connected to any Bluetooth sound system, receipt of a text message automatically generates a voice prompt, stating receipt of a message from X, and asking if you would like to read it or ignore. If you voice resspond to read, it would read the message, then ask if you would like to reply, and then it would transcribe your voice into a text reply, giving you the opportunity to review and revise before sending. 100% voice operated, no touch needed, eyes never leave the road. It was all so simple for years, and I assumed that it was the industry standard.
  • So annoying. The Moto X had this option, and it was a pain, especially if you had other people in the car. Android and iOS do not do have this function built in because people aren't looking for it. There are ways to get it if you want.
  • You mean get them read over Bt by Cortana? They can't do that? Wow, that's essential to my day to day use.
  • Nope. I have to use an external app (see comment above). I'm hoping to see this launch in Microsoft Launcher in the future.
  • Ok great article but the one thing you will do and sorry to say this but you will leave the MS apps behind in a few weeks... Like me I went from 100% Microsoft too nothing but my work laptop on MS got a Chromebook and all other Google stuff same with the apps there just better. Microsoft raised me but they need one hell of a move to win me over again.
  • Most people won't go the Chromebook route, which negates your assertion about leaving "MS behind in a few weeks".
  • If we are going the most people route let me change it up a bit most people, sister, mother, aunt, grandma etc. will leave MS behind and go mobile phone only a device MS can't deliver.
  • Why would he want to move everything from his current cloud service? Especially if he's an office 365 subscriber. Outlook is one of the best email apps out there. Again, why would he switch over to Gmail (which can be used with Outlook)? Same goes for OneNote. Does Google even have a OneNote competitor?
  • Google task and Keep. If trying to diss first Google your ammo.
  • I switched for convenience. I still have Office 365 and OneDrive, but use it far less when one Google account ties everything together for me. Now being on Android, I have to manage a lot less when I use my Google account for everything on my phone, for the Chrome browser on my computer, as a login for third party websites, etc. It can even automatically store CC info and manage logins if you want it to, which while I usually avoid, serves as kind of the ultimate convenience for someone who spends a lot of time using websites and web services. Even if you like Microsoft's offerings better, once you switch platforms, you will probably end up continuing to dive further and further into the services provided by your current platform.
  • I liked outlook but it is about only one out there that doesn't show unread message count on icon. That is deal breaker for me.
  • Mine did until I turned it off. I use the Microsoft Launcher and it will show your new messages as a number count on the icon.
  • Outlook is terrible next to Gmail. I hate it everytime I have to open it for work emails. The only decent Micrsoft service is Office, and it is overkill for most tasks and is quickly becoming antiquated. I don't see any other Microsoft service worth using beyond Windows proper.
  • I don't know about that. I do have a Pixel 3 as a backup to my iPhone, and I use a lot of MS services on it, even using Outlook as the primary e-mail client. But..I use Chrome, Google Maps, Google Photos, Assistant, etc. They integrate well with the rest of the platform. I have Edge, HERE, Cortana, etc loaded, but they aren't compelling. I use the Office Mobile docs because I live in Office, at home, at work, on the iPhone, everywhere, and the apps are familiar. I use OneDrive and OneNote.
    When I got the Pixel 3 I loaded the MS launcher on the old Pixel to see what that was all about. I didn't really find anything compelling over what Google already provided. (but then, I have a Google device devoid of OEM 'features').
    My primary phone is an iPhone X and it is similar. I use Outlook for mail, Safari for web, and Siri for voice interaction. Still Office and Onedrive. My photos got to iCloud (and OneDrive).
    You just aren't that stuck in one ecosystem as you used to be. Across iOS and Android the apps are essentially the same, you can use their native services or MS, or both on either. You can even cross a lot of services, Google Play Music is on the iPhone and Apple Music is on Android.
    Unfortunately there just isn't that much to differentiate the OSs beyond the ability to customize the interface on Android. That's great, but it can become a hobby on something that really is a tool. Once past the UI, and into the apps, it's six of one, half dozen of the other.
  • A must have is Google's AI Snapseed photography editor. That's something I use daily when taking photos.
  • I think that is an exception and not the facts. I refused to drop my Windows phone until it was lost in Vancouver. Since then I have been using Android and I have "Microsoftified" my phone to the max with the MS launcher, apps and services.
    Plus I avoid Google services and apps the best I can. The only hardware from Google that I could ever see myself buying is the Google Pixel phone. Mainly, for the camera.
  • Inevitable move, this is probably the last year when most will switch. Ashamedly clinging on for a bit longer..
  • There isn't anything to be ashamed of. Use the phone and OS that suits your needs. I still use my Symbian phones in rotation, a Nokia N8 from 2010 and a Nokia 808 PureView from 2013. Despite their tiny virtual keyboard, they meet the need when they meet the need and I'm always happy to use them. My Windows phones aren't going anywhere either. My sim stays in my Galaxy Note 9 most of the time but my other phones get their share of use as well. My iPhone X even gets some use. Your device needs to be all things for you and not all things for someone else so enjoy what you have as long as you can and then move on to enjoy your next device, never being ashamed of your device or OS choice.
  • Most people use one device, not 5. If you're going to use one device, then Android and iOS are the only viable options at this point.
  • Viable is dependent in the individuals needs.
  • Most should have security update needs and Windows Phone isn't getting those anymore.
  • Yes it is. Even if it doesn't need it.
  • Jason, I will strip the title from you and officially become the new Windows Phone diehard for 2019. I have 5 HP Elite X3's, 3 950XLs, 2 Idol 4S (Unlocked), and a Lumia 930 to hold me over for a very long time. I have purchased a OnePlus 6T this year and gave Android a full time shot for about 2 weeks, but came to the realization that I really don't want to complicate my life with apps. Smartphones are just too addicting to be honest Windows Phone is the only offering that forces you to not use your phone as much. When you only have a limited selection of apps on the phone your "tech field of vision" is limited to just the basics. You do only the bare essentials. Its a wonderful feeling when you aren't glued to your screen 75% of the day. Windows Phone is the best detox tool for tech. I simply just do not need 95% of the apps on Android. I do miss some of the utility on Android such as having the McDonalds app, my banking app, and a few other perks, but my argument is that I can just easily carry around a Android in my car WHEN I need the utility. If they only came out with a dual boot Android/W10M phone. That would be a dream phone, but we all know Google won't let that happen. To have any social relevance you have to switch to Android. Apps are best on Android. I do not debate this, nor would I ever recommend Windows Phones to anyone, its a personal preference to me. I just love the simplicity of the platform. What sucks is there is no more hardware support so as long as the apps continue to work for me and the hardware I have continues to function I can see myself on Windows Phones for the next decade. That is unless Microsoft releases a game changing product, but if I was a betting man, I'd say Microsoft is better off building a mobile device around Android with Windows features, than their native OS. Even then that's a risk considering how saturated the Android market is for Samsung.
  • I got a Samsung for my dad recently. With the Microsoft launcher, I was able to just install a handful of apps that he will actually use, pin the family members he contacts to home, and then I hid everything else from the launcher. Its makes for a very simple experience. It just takes some work, which is my main complaint about Android. There's a lot of possibility if you're willing to work for it.
  • Not having the self control to not use your smartphone all the time is a ridiculous excuse to stay with Windows Phone.
  • I will back your claim to the title and add that I am very impressed with your lineup! Indeed I feel the same way about tech detox in that I am developing more and more of a philosophy that tech ought to only be used for a purpose that is clear. Going with iOS and Android, and the millions of developer dollars behind them, means you are succumbing to Silicon Valley's attempt to claw your attention away from reality at every turn (Go and read something from Tristan Harris or Jaron Lainer if you don't know what I am talking about, Google is pretty scary really and I for one don't really want to support their monopoly). As a teacher I see daily what impact the attention-sucking philosophy of mobile apps has on young people and, despite being an edtech expert, admit it's not nice to see. I now, also, don't recommend Windows mobile but love the UX for me personally, and it helps me to stay focussed amidst a sea of apps that have not really proven themselves to make my life better yet. With the basics on WM10 I am happy, though to agree with everything you mention here about relevance etc. Its personal preference at the end of the day right.
  • "I simply just do not need 95% of the apps on Android" No one needs 95% of the apps. Its all about the 5% that you DO need. But that 5% is different for everyone. Which explains the app gap and the death of WP.
  • 5 HP Elite X3s, 3 950XLs, 2 Idol 4Ss and a Lumia 930? Plus an Android phone for using a banking app in your car? You're suggesting that you have a Windows phone to stop you getting addicted to using them and yet you openly admit to having 11 of them plus an Android phone. Can I suggest that you would simplify your life immensely by flogging off the all windows phones and sticking the Android phone in your pocket and not loading the apps which you think may get you addicted. Try using some self control :D Mind you, you clearly have none, as your Windows phone habit appears to testify.
  • I still miss useful live tiles, the ability to pin a specific part of an app to home, and the dedicated camera button. I miss the hubs concept too, but I understand why that was never going to be a long-term possibility without 3rd party support.
  • I loved hubs. And family room!
  • Ah, family room. Good times. I had my entire family hooked up and they were amazed with it.
  • I had to have this moment inside a T-Mobile store, as my then Lumia 1020 completely failed, my visit to the MS Store and seeing my preordered Lumia 950XL in person ,left me empty inside and the impending reality that Windows Phone was done had set in. It was a ROUGH 4 weeks and I returned countless Android devices within the 14-day period while figuring out what I wanted. I'm sure the store hated me, but I couldn't decide. All the while I was avoiding iPhone, only to eventually end up with an iPhone 6S and currently an XS Max. I don't get caught into the world of which phone is better, at this point its an even playing field for 99% of everyone. The main reason I stick to iOS is simple, music creating apps. That's it. I produce music on the side and the amount of apps available to truly create music on iOS are so far above Android, that unless they change something drastic, I'm on iOS until the foreseeable future. While I plan to get a new iPad, that may allow me to jump into something like a Pixel 3. However, for me being able to create ideas to full tracks on my iPhone is such a joy I can't imagine not having that ability.
  • I just replaced my Lumia 950. Before that phone I used a Lumia 830, a Lumia 920(fave) and an LG slider Windows Phone 7 device. I received my LG Stylo 4 on Jan 4th and I feel like I've never used anything else. I also had no idea J Ward was going with the same LG phone. The phone, slim case, three screen protectors, and a 400gb Samsung micro SD cost me $297 with tax on Amazon. I popped my AT&T sim from my 950 into the LG Android and never looked back. It's way easier to use and so customizable. It's not flagship but it doesn't perform cheaply either. P. S. The Stylo part of this phone has been a non-event for me so far... Oh well.
  • Let's see how much you love Android in a year when LG stops updating your Stylo 4. Honestly, you probably couldn't have chosen a worse vendor for your switch to Android.
  • What inexpensive Android phone should we have purchased? My Stylo looked like the best deal pricewise when I researched. Under $200 for a 6+ inch screen. I love the performance and the screen quality. What phone did I miss????
  • I like the Essential Phone for the price. Great hardware, updated the same day as the Pixels when I had it (so I was running on Android Pie from Day 1). And stock Android, which was important.
  • That is pretty much ANY android phone, security updates end in 2 years at best and 3 with a couple of new ones. Yet those of us on Win 10 mobile will still get security updates into 2020. That is when most users will switch, when security updates stop.
  • Security updates that do not matter in the slightest bit since no one is going to target Windows phone. Microsoft is doing that minimal amount of work while you will never get a new API or even browser update, and haven't for years now. Your phone will never properly support PWA. Even several year old Android phones will receive PWA support! Microsoft has the worst support in the phone industry. Laughably bad.
  • Get a descent Snapdragon Android device > Lineage OS > forever daily updates
  • Perhaps, but as for now I am really enjoying the phone, wanted something with a large screen a stylus and AFFORDABLE! I was not about to invest over a grand on one phone or even two. I got both phones for $179 (normal price $299) on Amazon just before Christmas. I'm happy. Wife's happy. And if things change, they change, I'm a Windows Phone enthusiast. I've been hardened for survival! :-)
  • Congratulations on getting two phones for a great price that you and your wife are happy with. Being happy with your purchase is what matters.
  • Absolutely. Have to do what works for the "wallet"👍
  • Yeah, thanks for the reccomedation! 😎 If you click my name you should see my contact info.
  • "Wife's happy." That is the most important thing right there! Source: married (to the same wife) for 16 years and counting...
  • Tgp... That right. I don't have quite as much time under my belt as you do, but as a man in my mid 40s and coming up on 7 years (also first and ONLY wife til death do us part 😁- I got married late) of marriage, I recognize the priority, and blessing of a happy wife. 😊
  • I'm getting married in September of this year (been engaged since August) and I've already learned that making her happy is top priority. Especially when it comes to her tech.
  • Totally agree. $1K (or more) phones just seem sort of ridiculous to me. Bought an Honor 7x for under $200 and it is perfectly fine. Would rather save my money for an upgraded 2 in 1.... put it toward a vacay somewhere warm... a down payment on a new car... the kids’ college fund. $1K for a 6 inch screen just seems over the top. And I think Apple’s and Samsung’s recent stock guidance show a lot of ppl agree.
  • Just don't come after this and complain how bad Android is because lags and this and that...a 200$ android phone is by no means a midrange...
  • It doesn't matter if LG never updates the phone. Google will send API updates, security updates (when possible), and features through Play Services. Your phone's software will continue to be supported for several years even if you never get a new version of Android. Microsoft doesn't touch this level of support.
  • I don't know, I picked up a used Huawei to replace my 640 before realizing that they've stopped unlocking their phones, even the ones out of warranty. It's a couple of years old but I couldn't justify the cost of a newer phone that had a ton of functions that I wouldn't use regularly. The problem is the 95% of preloaded apps that I don't need as someone earlier mentioned. All of that junk taking up resources or even all of the other (non MS) apps that feel that the MUST run whenever the phone is on. I can go and on about the things I had taken for granted on Windows Mobile. Stuff just worked (when it worked). Now I spend so much time squeezing out resources on a phone that has twice the power of my old 640. I understand that people enjoy tweaking their android phones in every perceivable way but coming from WM, this feels like WAY too much work to get to some form of sustained functionality.
  • Welcome to the club! I agree with so much of what you said... I lasted a very long time. I also started way back when in the PocketPC days (before they were phones!), but my days ended with the Lumia 950XL. For me, it was the app gap. I loved the WP interface, live tiles were awesome on a phone. The cameras were top quality. But when everywhere I looked the very best applications simply weren't made for WP, it just gradually wore me down. The final straw for me was Continuum. I SO badly wanted to like it. It was such a great idea. But then limited to UWP apps which already were deficient. I bought initially a Moto from Costco, then upgraded to a OnePlus 5T and I just haven't looked back. The sad thing is Windows Phone is just a successive series of mishaps on Microsoft's part. I firmly believe the app gap didn't have to happen. Microsoft got spanked when the iPhone came out. If they had produced WP7 a couple years earlier I think they would have had a contender. It was just too little too late. I'm still intrigued by Andromeda. If they truly produce a foldable phone that can deliver on the promise of Continuum - truly an ultramobile PC that replaces your phone - I could be tempted. But Microsoft would have a lot of history to overcome. I certainly wouldn't be an early adopter... I hope for the best. Microsoft as a company has improved over the years (bias up front I'm a former employee). The Surface line seems to be well engineered. I think there's room for new products out there...
  • I'm curious what you think is the promise of Continuum? I have had windows (XP-W10) on things as small as 7" over the years. The things I would want Windows for just don't lend themselves to screens that small; real word processing, Adobe style photo apps, Visio and the like. It was cool that you could have a full size screen, keyboard, mouse and use your Win10Phone as the processor, via a dock or wireless, but still needed those big peripherals to get any use out of the applications. At that point you're carrying laptop equivalent parts if you want assured access.
    I imagine the idea of having a personal computing platform that you take with you and use as a phone or the guts of a workstation, is interesting as a way to always have your data available, but the 'cloud' has pretty much made that possible in a different way. Doesn't matter that I started that document or took that picture on my phone. When I get to my workstation, they are available, without having to dock the phone. Yea, that requires connectivity, but it doesn't require my portable gadget to have the power of a workstation, so there are tradeoffs. Seems like Continuum was a solution looking for a problem that was actually solved by the 'cloud'.
  • I agree. Continuum was an answer to a 2005 question. The cloud better answered that question several years ago.
  • My employees and I were able to travel without laptops a majority of the time. Connecting to screens at our destinations (conference hotels, client offices, etc) with our 950s and 950XLs over a wireless HDMI connection. The combination of phone, and mobile keyboard / mouse would all fit in our pockets / purses, and we could use our Office applications (including PowerPoint presentations), e-mail and browsing which made up the majority of our traveling needs. True, we were not able to run our environmental simulation models, but that was a smaller percentage of the time. And the fact that no Internet connectivity was required with Continuum (as with remote servers) was a real life saver on multiple occasions, when connectivity was poor or unavailable altogether.
  • A Surface Pro or Go does all that better and is no bigger than an external keyboard and mouse. Not to mention, if Continuum works for you, then a Chromebook would too. Your needs are very basic.
  • So I guess we will need to switch to Android Central to read your articles ...?
  • Nope! LOL. Of course not!
  • This forum doesn't have much about Windows phones anymore anyway. It is about other Microsoft products and services, which are still going full steam.
  • I'd switch back to Windows Phone in a heart beat if there was continued support from Microsoft, alas it's not to be. My biggest issue with Android has been the amount of notification spam, and shovel ware apps. Sure there is a huge amount of apps on the play store but it's a lot of digging to find anything remotely useful, and I've found even the paid content is pretty bad.
    What I loved with a windows phone was the live tiles, nice information that *I* wanted was pinned with a live title for updates at a glance. Instead, everything and anything tries to spam me with useless notifications where ever possible, and Google can go F' off do one as well with it's recommended 'hidden gems' from google maps and bus time tables at 4am, like seriously what the actual AI.
  • My Lumia 650 finally got annoyingly flakey and I ended up with a Galaxy S9+. It's very nice but I can't help but think how well Windows 10 Mobile would have run on modern hardware. Now, if Microsoft would bring Maps and a music player to the party... I've downloaded about a dozen music players and they all seem to be built on exactly the same model and all seem cluttered after Groove, oh well
  • "I've downloaded about a dozen music players and they all seem to be built on exactly the same model" This. When I dumped WP, I of course tried Android first. Because all WP users are supposed to hate Apple. On Android, I was on a never-ending quest for a decent music player. I too downloaded dozens of players. They were all exactly the same, basically just different skins on the same non-functional app. The worst part was that when you pulled up an album, the tracks were sorted by name! There was no way to play them in the correct track order. Just reason number #17 that I abandoned Android and moved on to Apple. Android and Windows Phones are both just a bad memory now.
  • It is 2018. Music players are dead. Just suscribe to a music service and be done with it.
  • Maybe it is 2018 where you live. Where I live it is 2019 and music players are alive and well. I am not going to pay/stream music that I already own/have. If I want music with commercials every 10 minutes, we already have radio for that.
  • Spotify does, unless you are paying. Again, I am not going to pay to stream music that I already own.
  • I've still been holding on to my Lumia 950. Before my Windows Phone I was an Android user (up to version 4 or 5 I think). Last year I got the lastest Galaxy phone and hated it so much I sold it within a week. My wife is an iPhone user and even though I enjoy owning a Macbook Pro, I cannot stand the limitations of iOS. Windows 10 Mobile will get security updates until 2020, so I have been carefully looking at my options for an upgrade before the year ends. For me it will be a Nokia phone. Quite possibly the Nokia 9 when it is released. I'm really surprised Jason went with an LG. One of the things I (and many others) love about the Lumia is the Zeiss camera. I have taken some of the most amazing photos of my life with it. I'm not a big app user or gamer and since Nokia and Zeiss are still partnering together it seem like the easiest way for me to transition back to Android. Their camera app is almost identical. Nokia's also been an adopter of Android One, a stock version of Android without all the bloatware. I have played around with it a little on a Nokia 6.1, and so far it's been a nice experience. So for those of you looking for something after the Lumia, try a Nokia with Android One.
  • "Last year I got the lastest Galaxy phone.." Lol, there's your problem. (JK) ;) The fact is that Android is so flexible; if you wanted, you could actually make the interface very close to WM10. Me: I have a Pixel 2 and used to be owner of Lumias 822, 830, and 950. I've got it so that my Home Screen is filled with Calendar and Notes widgets, and I bring up all of my apps through a swipe from the right side to get a side app panel. I'm also using gesture navigation: swipe up left, center, and right for back, home, and recents, respectively. I really like it.
  • The limitations of Windows phone are greater than iPhone. Windows phone is barely more functional than a feature phone. That argument makes no sense.
  • Some of its limitations which bother me are not having a 3.5 mm headphone jack. No external memory or MicroSD slot. No FM Radio and having a non-removable battery. And I've just never been impressed with the camera. Compared to the top contenders out there, Apple puts a subpar camera on a very expensive device.
  • Another thing I just remembered was when I decided to compare Siri to Google Assistant and Cortana. I asked all three the same questions and it dumbfounded me that Apple somehow hasn't caught up to its rivals in this area. Even Amazon's Alexa is up there with Google Assistant. I can ask Alexa, Cortana, Assistant anything, even to get them to sing me a song or tell me a joke and the AI sounds smart and very human-like. To the point I could see myself having a conversation with it. Siri feels like a robot with an attitude. I really should do a video comparison about this.
  • All those things are going away. Windows phones wouldn't have them either if you could by a modern one.
  • I used windows phone for about 5 years. 6 months ago I switched over to Moto G6 for 2 reasons. 1)Mobile bank apps not available for windows 10 2) Kindle. I am in Canada and the Kindle app defaults and I need I gave my 950 xl to my wife and the 2 apps she uses are available for windows 10 1) Whats App 2)Fitbit. She had a 640xl before that. It is collecting dust.
  • Yep. Mobile banking apps are great. Plus, all of the services I use have an app and it's so convenient. The big app for me is Spotify. I was tired of the Windows 10 version not working. I went from "glad it's still on my platform" to "this sucks" in the last few months. Finally I can get full use out of my music service of choice. Plus, I can check out so many other apps. It's the Google part I can't stand. But they actually let me opt out of way more than I was expecting. Microsoft apps +SwiftKey make it a great experience so far for this Windows user.
  • Just be careful of the apps in the play store. Apps with malware always seem to sneak through google's vaunted "vetting" system, meaning they don't really seem to vet them at all. So many apps aren't built into the OS like they were with WP, you have to search and hope the one you grab isn't full of malvertising.
  • Yes, idiots beware.
  • I made the switch last year and I still think win 10 mobile with apps is/would be far superior... Android is not as ergonomic than win10... As soon as Ms does a new phone I'm switching back... The only real app I don't have on win 10 is clash royale... I can do without that...
  • I'm a techy - I first used a computer - on a terminal, in a hospital, about 1973, and for many years was a programmer with a special emphasis on both efficiency and GUI's. I like Android, plus my S8+, but somehow have still never figured out how to split screen. Something I'd really like to use. But other than that, I find Android comfortable. And I use Google, and a bit of Alexa, and a bit of Cortana.
  • You hold the multitasking button or hit it once and drag a window to the top or bottom.
  • i am working with Razor 2. Camera is not as good as my 950.
  • Hey Jason welcome to the other side. One thing you might start to notice in yourself from now on, at least I have, is you might start developing the feeling that any attempt by MS in mobile small form factor is hopeless. As you begin to use banking apps... stock broker apps... credit card apps... airline apps... personal finance apps... grocery store apps... coupon apps... messaging apps other than Skype... Starbucks... yada this app... yada that app... you may begin to doubt that MS could possibly ever catch up... even if... PWA takes flight. It’s super hard not to get cynical about it. Hope MS can somehow miraculously pull foldables off, truly do, but once you have access to billions of apps it’s hard to see any future for MS in small form factor. Oh well... at least the gamers still have their power machines and their Steam. And Windows, at least for today, still rules the Enterprise. Maybe those two things alone can save Windows from itself. At least if some day (in our kids’ or grandkids’ day) should there be no Windows OS, we’ll still have our blessed Azure and Office 365. That is unless our kids decide to switch to another cloud too!
  • Well as much as I understand I cannot help but feel a little disappointed, as Im left feeling like the only one on earth still arguing for WM10. I have empathised with your journey the whole way, also convincing most of my family who have since jumped ship (possibly wondering how expert my advice really is) as I watch the mobile world descend into a duopoly. When you mention you "admittedly have been frustrated for years when venues encouraged or advertised the use of their app, their Android or iPhone app, with no acknowledgment that Windows phones even existed." I was right there with a virtual fist bump - the number of times I have seen such ads and wanted to scream at the bus they are plastered on 'you can get it on WM10 as well!' makes me cringe; no wonder the platform died/is dying, nobody cares to educate or be educated. I will stick to my Lumia until death parts us; the app gap is very much a non-issue for me as evident by the fact that I hardly touch my android testing phone and tablet (as an edtech I need to be part of the game), and given the proliferation of mobile sites it's not likely to matter much in the future. I have less clicks with my bank site pinned to start than with their android app!
  • My whole hearted advice to you is to go ahead, and enjoy a Android device now. It's not about switching. You can still use your WP device. But, don't hold yourself back from progress because of tradition.. AND THAT'S COMING FROM THE BIGGEST WP FAN IN THE HISTORY OF MICROSOFT💕💕💕💕💕
  • I never see any comments about Android's performance. I don't know any Android user who doesn't have problems with their phone after a while (except die hard fans who don't want to see the problem). That's the main problem for me. The biggest real plus is the store. We actually have apps on Android 😂 But, as someone else already mentioned above, I would change back to windows phone (preferably 8.1) if there were apps and support from Microsoft. But since Microsoft is on a self destruct path lately, I wouldn't hold my breath.
  • "But since Microsoft is on a self destruct path lately" Yeah man. Being the most valuable company in the world sure is a bad thing. Even if it only lasted for a few weeks. How - exactly - is Microsoft self destructing?
  • Windows 10 is an unstable mess. I'm afraid to update my pc. And there's no easy way to stop updates. Windows 10 mobile was even worse. Cortana is nowhere near other digital assistants' level (although I don't really care about this one). As a consumer I really don't care if they are making money. What matters to me is that their products are not what they used to be.
  • Microsoft has NEVER been a consumer company. They have always been Enterprise focused. Windows 10 is perfectly stable for Enterprise users, because they don't go thru twice yearly updates. Consumers in the past were forced to use Windows, simply because there was nothing else available. Today, consumers have moved on to phones. Windows in the home is no longer the necessity that it was 10 years ago. Microsoft simply does not care about consumers now, because consumers no longer care about Windows or Microsoft. There are plenty of alternatives. Meanwhile, MS is making buckets of money focusing on business users. They know where their money comes from.
  • Last time I checked 70 something % of computer users were using windows. Over 500millions of them are using windows 10. Are all these numbers from enterprises? I know many people using windows for their work, for gaming, for browsing or just watching movies. There is no excuse. So what? Next move is to kill Xbox? Unless it is used in enterprises as well. I am a dj and I use a windows laptop for my job. It's almost scary. There are many incidents in my job. Many djs are facing problems. And for many reasons we have or want to stick with windows. And by the way, I've been reading about this "enterprise" thing for some time now. If this is the case, they should stop selling their software unless the buyer is an enterprise, since it seems that it is magically working great for them but not for us.
  • Again, businesses are NOT on the twice yearly upgrade treadmill. Where I work we are still using Win 10 Version 1607 (OS Build 14393.2670). There is no reason to "upgrade", because everything works fine right now. The company has a business to run. There is no time to fiddle with Windows PCs. The Enterprise version of Windows 10 is managed buy the local IT department. They have total control over what updates get applied AND when they get applied. Enterprises are NOT at the mercy of Microsoft. Yes, 76% of desktop and laptop computer users are using Windows. But that is less than 20% of ALL computer users these days. Yes, phones and tablets are computers. 1.5 billion phones were sold in 2017. 240 million Windows PCs were sold. Some large percentage of that 240 million is business users, probably 30% - 50%. People are no longer lining up to buy the latest version of Windows. Yes, 15 years ago that would happen. Now they are lining up to buy a new phone. Like I said, consumers have moved on.
  • Constant reorgs, junk quality in windows 10 etc.
  • I've been using it for a few months now.. High end device. It's more stable than
    WM10... Just get task manager, and kill unnecessary apps. With 10 apps multitasking any OS will lag. WP didn't have this problem because MS over thought the situation, and gave WP fake multitasking.
  • I bought my HP Elite outright so I still don't have a compelling reason to switch. It keeps me from having to respond to work stuff off hours unless they call me at this point.
  • Talk about a WP die hard. I just got a NEW Lumia 525 Yesterday to replace the 521 that finally died. Brand new factory phone from China. Only $35. Total. I couldn't resist at that price. I intend to hack it to use Windows 10. Not that hard. Consider it "entertainment". I like a small phone so this works great. It does everything I want a smartphone to do. You just can't beat the way you can set the phone up. Only if you really learn to use folders and live tiles. I will probably buy one more as a backup. I'll have Denim 8.1 on one and Win 10 on the other. I think people are suckers to pay so much for a phone they over rely upon and under utilize. Anyway, really happy with my NEW Lumia 525. Does everything. Small. Looks great. Fits on my belt. $35. Nice!
  • You overpaid.
  • That $30 price is a year old. It is $50 now. The phone is locked to Cricket Wireless. No one likes it. The reviews are bad. It isn't a Windows Phone. A cheap Android phone barely works at all. Especially compared to the original Nokia Lumias. So why is that a better deal? What part of still liking the Windows OS did you miss?
  • I don't notice it was locked, but it is an example of what you can find today. The L525 is 6 years old! I cannot imagine how bad that experience is.
  • You would be amazed! The L525 fixed the problems the L520 & L521 had. More ram. Nothing crashes. Explorer works. Even Facebook. All the messengers work except Line (unless you put W10 on it). Everything without lag. Sound is better than most of the newer phones. Pictures were always good on the old Nokia's. No microphone problems like the later models. Windows 8.1 works so well, I will get another phone if I want to use W10. The extra special part is that in Thailand, censorship isn't looking at this. Can look at everything without using a VPN. Nice! Good security using a device no one is interested in. It plays any video I put on it. I miss the UC Brower "speed mode", but I used that mostly to prevent crashes that don't happen now. I have 7 folders on the start screen. No need to swipe anywhere to use Apps. "Sound", "Motion", "Utility", etc. All on the start screen. So the only thing I miss in the last 6 years of Windows Phone is Line and UC Browser. Nothing else. I just put a new WhatsApp update on. 8.1 Denim is virtually flawless on the L525. Newer phones had newer problems. the L525 sorted out the issues of the number 1 selling WP. The L520 (& 521). No other newer model did that for any other model. The newer greater better features don't often work the way they should. So, you'd be amazed at how well the L525 six year old phone still works with W8.1. I am and I laugh at how nice it is for such little money. In any event, I am surprised at how few used WP's are on eBay given the "end" of WP. That says a lot about how much everyone likes their WP. Use the L525 as a fun backup phone. Removable battery. 3.5 headphone port. 64GB sd card slot and a virtually flawless OS that you can upgrade to W10 with a cable upgrade trick. I was the IT guy for a law firm. There is nothing "bad" in my experience with the L525. That I can keep going with a brand new phone is the fun part! There is nothing that compelling in either Android or iPhone, at least for me, especially given what you have to pay to get it to work reasonably well. Just my opinion. Love my NEW Windows Phone! Old is "new" with simple appreciation and you avoid the hype. Buy what makes you happy and entertains you, but there is nothing wrong with a six year old phone that works flawlessly doing what you want it to do. Wish I would have bought this phone sooner, but happy I did so now!
  • I thought you said ms was “positioning its self ahead of the curve” and “windows phones are not dead” blah blah blah.
  • That was all just fanboy/fansite talk. Reality exists, regardless of whether some people refuse to see it.
  • I thought you said ms was “positioning its self ahead of the curve” and “windows phones are not dead” I did. Glad you remember. I still believe Microsoft's Windows-on-mobile strategy (that incorporates and transitions beyond Windows-on-phone) is positioning for a device that is more PC than phone but will have telephony. I've stressed that for years even before more concrete information emerged about the project, Project Andromeda, which is the manifestation of my analysis. So yes, I believe Microsoft is still pursuing that, thus my closing statement in the article referencing if Microsoft finally launches Andromeda I'll be front and center. As for now, however, as I articulate in the piece, current needs, business and personal, gave compelling reasons to move to a different phone platform. That personal choice has no impact on my analysis on what I believe Microsoft is doing. In fact, if I never used a Windows Phone in my life and was historically strictly an iPhone or Android phone user, I could have written the same analysis of what I believe Microsoft is doing and planning to do in mobile. What I choose to use doesn't change my ability to present analysis on a company's strategy. In fact as a Windows phone user, I provided analysis in much of my work regarding Apple's, Google's, Amazon's, Qualcomm's and other company's strategies. Why Microsoft's mobile story is so profoundly confusing
  • I so much can relate to your thoughts on budget regarding choice of phone /platform. That was one of the reasons I stuck with windows mobile even in its death throes. I'm interested to see how you guys like your Stylo 4's. I got a refurbished LG V20 for my first android phone last summer, and I am liking it so far. However, I got my wife the Stylo 3 and she is a little irritated with a few aspects of the device, specifically a laggy camera that sometimes doesn't save photos and issues with storage management with an SD card. Trying to decide if I should try to get her the Stylo 4 or try to upgrade her to a Pixel 1/2 or Galaxy S8 or something like that.
  • You can pick up an LG V35 or G7 for cheaper than an S8 and I can promise you it is totally worth it! Even the V40 may be the same price. It seems LG prices depreciate weekly
  • If Andromeda launches and PWAs really take off on Microsoft's ecosystem, I will switch back to Windows on Mobile. But I do have the LG V40 and love it and I used Launcher 10 with Cortana as my default assistant. It does a good job of replicating certain aspects that I enjoyed with Windows Phones.
  • I'm glad you finally ended your suffering. Windows Phone was dead the moment Microsoft screwed over Windows Phone 7.8 users.
  • Or was it when they screwed over all of those who bought into Windows RT ? Hard to tell, because they both happened within weeks of each other. Who would develop for a company that in the next 3 months might completely abandon their own platform ? I actually felt bad for Ward and Rubino when they had to come tell us that news. I'm guessing straws were drawn.
  • I haven't 'switched' per se, but I did get myself a Umidigi Z2 Special Edition! Very good for the cost, but still Android. However I still use four phones, two Microsoft and one HP, but all Windows. Windows is just a better, cleaner, It's unfortunate they couldn't finish the job. Sad. I'll hold on as long as I can until they kick me off!! Or my phones die!
  • Good article. It's not moving on anyway, it's moving sideways.
  • Good article. If you need a better camera, try the Pixel.
  • Hopefully the camera on the Pixel is better than the POS camera on the Note 9. I'm seriously disappointed after using the terrific camera on the Lumia 950.
  • The 950 is like Galaxy Note 6 quality. It isn't in the same league as the Note 9. You mistake megapixels for picture quality.
  • You have no clue, so keep your annoying, broken record, trolling mouth shut...
    I have taken picture, after picture, with my Note 9, and my Lumia 950. No matter what setting I use with the N9 the 950 is always way more sharp, with more detail, WORLDS BETTER ZOOM, and less grain. I believe the N9 might be able to produce a better color representation than the 950, but that's about it. The biggest advantages the N9 has over the 950 are speed, options, and stability. But, as far as imaging capabilities, and pure quality, the 950 wins... Trust me, I paid $1000 for my N9, and I want to be wrong, but I'm not, so your word means ****. And, how would you know? You never used either device, so please. If there is one thing I've learned over the years about annoying Android trolls, such as yourself, it's that they always have the lowest end hardware. It's really quite funny how silly yall are. You're Android fans, but the inadequate feelings your low end devices lend you leads to you trolling on "lesser" little lowly WP fans.. Lol. It's similar to a 5th grade looser who is cast out by his peers, so he picks on 2nd graders to make himself feel better. Smdh that's you, man. So, just get a life.
    AAAAANNNNDDD, If I'm wrong then tell me why you're here (ON A WINDOWS SITE WHEN YOU HATE EVERYTHING WINDOWS) in the first GD place????????? Lol I bet I hear crickets 🦗 🦗 🦗 And, for anyone out there hoping to get a Note9, I don't mean to discouraged you. It's a terrific device. I mean, it's pretty awesome, reminds me of my 1520, and it's really one of the best devices for a WP fan tk start with. I just hope a future update fixes the inadequate picture quality, because I don't think it's a hardware issue. Nevertheless, I could understand why Android fans think it's acceptable; because they haven't been using Lumia devices for almost a decade.🙄 That's seriously my unbiased opinion, so take it, and do what you please with it. I'm enjoying Android so far more than late WP overall. That's really all that matters.
  • Everything you said confirms you are only looking at megapixels. The Note 9 takes way better pictures, but you can zoom in more to the 950 because they are higher resolution. The photos are still inferior. You are doing the same thing that All About Windows phone does. You aren't taking the photos at face value, you are going down to the pixel and claiming the 950 is better because it is higher resolution. As you can see in the blind tests, that isn't what makes a good photo.
  • Do you have a Note9?
    DO you have a Lumia 950?
    Do you have a Galaxy S7?
  • I didn't think so
  • 950 is like Galaxy Note 7 quality. There's the correct statement. Note 6 quality is below 950, and even on low-light Galaxy Note 7 still trails 950.
  • "She cried when she opened the box on Christmas and saw two LG Stylo 4 boxes with heart-shaped cut-outs affixed to each, one labeled "his" and the other labeled "hers." That's because she realized she was finally coming out of the 19th century log cabin in the woods (Windows Phones), and moving into a 21st century condo.
  • Dumbest statement I've seen.
  • It was meant as tongue-in-cheek. Not literally. Because I have been there. When I finally got out of the WP wilderness, I wondered what took me so long. Its nice to be back in civilization.
  • But, man was WP 8.1, on high end Lumia hardware, greatness... Those were the days.
  • I still have a 920 on WP 8.1. My Icon and 1520 are on 10. All are now basically used as MP3 players.
  • I still use the camera on the 950
  • Like you Jason, i have stuck with my lumia and windows laptop but over christmas I was given an android tablet and am enjoying the experience of picking up whatever app i want and have it work without having to find some web site. I just got my office 365 subscription so am locked in for another year but the google apps seem to do whatever I need so, when my lumia inevitably dies i will move the whole deal over to android. Have you considered a similar move. I am a simple user but suspect there are more folks like me than the tech savvy types who need more. So, the question is .... if a guru like Jason and a simpleton like me have started to migrate away from ms, what does this mean for the future of ms.
  • LOL!!! Its about time you got off that app-less trash!!!! One thing to remember with Android is its about personal experience, via customization. As soon as you buy a new phone/tablet you should immediately get off whatever basic dinky launcher that comes with it, and actually grab something useful from the store (like Nova or Microsoft Launcher.) Apple's IOS is more about simplicity and efficiency, for their customers (which they usually love!) However, that can come off as boring for Android users, as everyone is stuck with the same design. Also, don't forget a good SD card, for your storage.
  • And THAT is among my biggest complaints. To make ANY Android device useful you have to tweak the crap out of it. Every time I pick up my test Android device to do something I just want to throw it against the wall. The entire experience, and what I have to do to IMPROVE the experience, just makes me sick. If that works for you, great. It doesn't for me.
  • You would love Apple. All their computers and phones just work out of the box. It is only a matter of time before you have to switch, might as well do it now and go all in.
  • I switched from a 950XL last spring to an S9. While Android isn't terrible, it feels rather generic, and a few steps behind. It took me days to configure my S9 to look nice, whereas it would have taken me a few taps on WM. I still have a camera button, but it's not dual phase and the flash and zoom on the camera are noticably worse. The screen is better, and I like 18.5:9 over 16:9, but I still felt largely disappointed with Android. So many people made it out to be epic. I was expecting something great, and it's honestly frustrating to "slide backwards" so to speak with customization (dark theme is inconsistent, as are colors), app design (apps are all over the place, you must use F-Droid and XDA to replace MyTube and Readit), and updates (updates are not controlled, like Microsoft, but you are again at the whim of the carriers, just like the dark ages of the 810 and 920. Even if your phone is Unlocked. I also can't root due to SoC) Sometimes I feel like the grass isn't always greener. Android has improved in some areas, but not enough in most areas. Ironically, the extra apps I've downloaded are just to replace the functionality that was built-in to WM from the beginning.
  • HP Elite X3 FTW!
  • No, no, no, no.. The 1520 running WP 8.1 was the best device ever. Still, nothing beats it.
  • I love my 1520!!! 😎
  • 930 on 10! That screen....Powering it up right now to remind myself!
  • I agree. While quite big, it was great and WP8.1 ran without any flaws on it. Good battery, microsd support, good display and camera. The yellow one was of my liking back then
  • My wife and I switched from 950's to S9+'s at Christmas and once I put Launcher 10 on we are happier. The inconsistent navigation drives us nuts and stupid bixby button as well.
    The reality is that we only have 3 extra apps than before so for us the app gap was not there for us, we moved because the hardware went faulty.
  • My wife and I switched from 950's to S9+'s at Christmas and once I put Launcher 10 on we are happier. The inconsistent navigation drives us nuts and stupid bixby button as well.
    The reality is that we only have 3 extra apps than before so for us the app gap was not there for us, we moved because the hardware went faulty.
  • I totally get what you're saying.
  • I will admit it too. I like my essential phone. But I really miss the windows launcher and live tiles. I wish Microsoft would make the launcher and live tiles for Android and bring wordflow to Android. Swiftkey is awful at word prediction and the arrow launch is ok at best. I use squarehome 2 but it isn't the same.
  • My wife uses SwiftKey Wordflow and it works great for her. But I never got into Wordflow although I do use SwiftKey. I like the layout and word prediction.
  • It's sooo sad to see Windows Central promoting Android 😪 I'm using a Microsoft Lumia 640 and planning on using it another year. If Microsoft releases a Surface mobile device til then, I'll get that; if not I'm switching to Apple.
  • I still have my Cricket 640 and love it although I never enabled it. So I still can't unlock it. But it works fine on wifi.
  • I'm now on my third android phone since my 950 went crazy in 2017. It would constantly boot loop, no matter what battery I used. This month I got my 950 out and turned it on. It actually received an update and started working again. I used it all day tethered to my Android's wifi. It was fun setting it up again and re-installing apps. But when I tried to put a different battery in, the bootloop started all over again. I wasn't planning on going back to it full time anyway because of the relatively poor battery life of the 808 chip. But it was nice for a day. :)
  • I use a Samsung S7 and still have a Windows 640 and I go back and forth. I still like the quickness and battery life on my 640. My Galaxy S7 will freeze up and sometimes the battery drains like crazy and gets really hot. I still like that I can speak my texts and it will automatically put a question mark on questions. That is still something that doesn't happen on Android or iPhone.
  • My LG devices using Google keyboard always detect my punctuation. My husband's iPhone on the other hand, does not. I always feel the need to be a d*ck when I hear him speak a text like, "what time is the movie question mark" lol
  • Got a S7 for 2,5 years now never had any overheating problems, freezes or battery drains maybe you got a faulty device or and abnormal use case.
  • "My Galaxy S7 will freeze up and sometimes the battery drains like crazy and gets really hot." When I had an S7 Edge, it would sometimes get VERY hot and drain the battery, just while in my pocket. It was rare and random. Just another reason why I dumped it.
  • No shame Jason. I totally understand you. It's taken me almost 18 months to let go of my 950XL. I've moved on to an S8+. I keep going back to my windows phone every now and then; I really like the actual handset, the screen aspect/ratio, but every time I find more things (ie apps) are broken, don't open anymore, don't work (Spotify) etc. It's quite sad actually. Such fond memories of my first windows phone - my SAMSUNG ATIV S. It was so awesome! Then the ATIV SE - a powerhouse back then. Memories.....
  • Last month, I finally switched to LG V35 from Lumia 950. I tried MS Launcher, I liked it for a while, but finally stuck with Square Home. It gives me the closest feeling to W10m. Sad to say, even though there are things (like live tiles and notifications) that WP did a lot better, I'm not missing it.
  • Lyke omg phone twins!
  • I tried that Square Home on my test Android device. It felt like a cardboard cutout of the Windows Start screen, so I went back to MS Launcher since it at least has a better Cortana implementation.
  • And then we were... I'm not throwing in the towel yet...
  • Me, neither. And not because I have any silly notion it will be revived. It's all about the features that I depend upon with my Windows phones that simply cannot be acquired on Android OR iPhone. And it's not for lack of trying. Cortana is my A-Number-One feature, and while I acknowledge MS is TRYING to make it more useful via their Launcher (which is still just crap, like ALL other launchers) you are AGAIN stuck with it ONLY being useable if you have the Launcher as the active app. On Windows phones and PCs and tablets, Cortana is accessible no matter what you're doing. You never have to TOUCH the device.
  • What happens when Microsoft inevitably moves away from Cortana later this year?
  • Cortana is also on Android so... Just saying.
  • And they will kill it there too. Only a matter of time. No way it has any traction, they are already decoupling it from Windows.
  • It is still on my Windows 10. Windows 10 mobile and in the Android Microsoft Launcher... Not seen any trace Cortana being killed so far.
  • And it's the same useless junk as on windows...nothing even close to GA
  • Got tired of waiting for Andromeda, I take it? Welcome to the club :)
  • Moved to Android last October giving a chance to the new Nokia smartphones since just they brought me to WP in the past. It was unplanned and somehow shocking to me because I have lost my Lumia 950 somewhere in Istanbul and had to act quickly. In the beginnig had thoughts to microsoftize my new Nokia 7 plus ds to a large extent, but lately having a second thought decided not do it and start from a scratch with the android and thus breaking off with everithing about Windows Mobile for good.
    So my advice is forget the remainings of the dead WM and look into the future with what Google is doing.
  • When I made the switch almost 2 years ago I went with a used LG G5 I scored for $250. I instantly fell in love! More recently picked up a LG V35 (ONLY $300 USED) and it has become the love of my life. I really think LG makes some of the best phones that often get ignored. They also seem to be the only company that really embraces double tap to wake which is a feature I have to have! Pair that with a beautiful OLED panel, excellent dual camera set up, generous battery life, top shelf internals, and a headphone jack with a Quad DAC and you get a phone that is truly magical. On a side note I bought my mom a Stylo 4 for Christmas to replace her Lumia 520 and she has absolutely loved it! I thought it would be a disaster for her because she not a "techie" in anyway what so ever but it's been the complete opposite.
  • Welcome to 2015, Jason.
  • Also switched to Samsung/Android a few years ago when it became obvious the Windows phone was dead. Two observations. I came to realize the apps I enjoyed on the Windows phone really were also dead. Maybe they got an update on occasion to give the impression of being up to date. On Android the apps seem to get updates monthly if not more often. Also enjoy Microsfting the phone. Except Microsoft still doesn't take care of the obvious issues that would make it great. The music player can't access the micro drive. What's up with that? Pretty idiotic since it did work this way on the windows phone. I don't use it. Contacts can only be updated on the browser in order to reach the PC, phone and other devices. Why can't I update contacts directly on the phone? Pure stupidity.
  • I call my Moto G6 my Microdroid Phone. Miss my Windows phone but like you am enjoying my Android. My Moto G6 is almost the perfect phone for me. now that I am retired.
  • First, that "openness" you spoke of is EXACTLY why I ditched PocketPC-come-Windows Mobile. It became annoying having to tweak, skin, whatever the OS just to make it useful. I don't want nor need that much customization--it's just wasteful. Second, I have never, EVER desired to be part of the "mainstream mobile computing" because I'm not a follower, not a lemming. I have never cared what others are doing, buying, watching or listening to. I don't. Their interests are not even close to my interests and their world is nothing like mine. Third, I, like you, have not needed a bunch of apps. I've been testing out an Android device for about 9 months, following every guide I can find to make this piece of crud OS get me SOMEWHERE CLOSE to the experience I get on Windows phones. I can tell you without exception there is STILL no desire for tons of apps Android gives access to. If I can't get a meaningful, useful experience out of the device, nothing else matters. I have no use for stuff like a Roku, Alexa or whatever. Fourth, I'm not a fan of the superfluous chase after annoying "transitions" and other fluff. This is why I'm so angry at the ridiculous emphasis Microsoft is placing on the idiotic Fluent garbage. I disable as much of that as possible from Windows 10 and I reduce as much as possible on the Android device I'm testing. Fifth, split screen is just a stupid feature on a smartphone. It's fine for a tablet or PC where switching between multiple things on the screen make sense. It does not on a smartphone, particularly how I use it. Sixth, while I admit lamenting the loss of the album art on the Windows phone lockscreen at the time, I quickly realized IT DIDN'T MATTER SINCE I'M NOT STARING AT THE DEVICE WHILE IT'S PLAYING MUSIC. Finally, as hard as I've tried, it is IMPOSSIBLE to get as good an experience with Android as I have with Windows phones. Cortana is the number one reason. I have Cortana set to be always-on with all my devices. This is the ONLY platform where I can use ONE entity 100% hands free for everything I need to use it to do. There is no Launcher, no skin or icon pack that gets me that awesome look an functionality of Live Tiles. Period. The integration of the Microsoft ecosystem on Windows phones is far and away better than what they are doing on Android. Again, if someone has found something I missed about getting a Windows-like experience from the device, I'm open to suggestions. But I have used guides here, on Thurrott's site and MSPowerUser, too. The experience of just picking up the device and unlocking it makes me feel dirty.
  • I like most people on this site, including those who have switched completely or still carry a Windows phone (or two) like myself, prefer Windows phone. But we all have our preferences, needs and desires. And sometimes those shift. All said, we all use what fit our needs and when we do that, we can be content regardless of what anyone else, with different needs, preferences or desires does. I know there are people who are completely content with a flip "dumb" phone. I wouldn't be, but whatever floats their boat. :-) Thanks for your comments. Keep doing what works for you! :-) I'm still hoping Microsoft gets mobile right. I love so much about Windows phone.
  • You really are an apple fan in denial! It is time to give in, the grass is greener if you can afford it.
  • I am Switching to Android by next week.
    I have been a Windows phone user for last 6 years!
    I am finding it very hard to let go of my Lumia 640XL :(
  • I almost thought I would need to switch phones... Microsoft Teams was not supported in the Mobile Edge browser for like a week or two as they killed off their app... But as I posted in the feedback app, fix now... Days later, we are back up and running in the Edge browser. Tried android, hated it. Looking at your pictures, hate them. You'll have to pry my phone from my cold dead fingers. Found a new screen replacement for my HP Elite X3 for $100 while using my back up Alcatel Idol 4S. My HP has the wireless charging and the larger battery and is the only reason I am not whole hog for my Alcatel Idol 4S. Apple and Alphabet can suck it. Windows is the only platform for me!
  • The best thing about moving to Android for me was I dislike using my phone so much I'm down to less than 20 minutes a day on average using it. I still carry my Alcatel Idol 4S with me, since the third party apps on that that I use actually and hoenstly work better than the first party apps Android has. I've got a OnePlus 5T, and it's sole purpose at this point is acting as a hotspot for my surface. I've had Android for a year, and I tried Android years ago as well. I've done what I can to make the phone work for me, but it's an inconsistent, ugly mess most of the time. I've been waiting and hoping for an Andromeda device of some sort, but since that's not coming, I'm switching to Win10ARM when the 8CX chip is out. As for you, Jason, I'm glad you're able to enjoy your experience on it! Everyone should have, and be able to have the tech that makes them happy.
  • I will be honest, I just dont have the energy to deal with the frustration of switching right now in my life. Life has been complicated enough with taking care of a wife with a terminal illness. Life's little irritations are amplified into seemingly giant conundrums.
    Bottom line is I do not trust Apple and probably never will, I have watched their outright blatantly arrogant approach to nerfing control away from users from the very beginning. And google has taken a similar approach, in fact google may have taken it to the next level. We now live in a information world, we are fleeced for marketing data among other things. Sadly it is becoming more apparent that even Microsoft is following suit. I guess I just wanted to imagine that my phone was like my desktop, with my desktop there are safety features I can put in place I am familiar enough with the x86 environment I can know what's going on in my system. I guess the sad truth is that they days of the User having control over their system in gone. Computers and Phones are actually becoming more reminiscent of using a stereo or a home entertainment system in that all our choices are preselected and wrapped up in neat nerfed little package. I guess I will just try to enjoy my desktop computer for as long as I can until that is ruined too. Modding our systems is being phased out along side of what privacy we have left, if that is even a real thing. I just get tired of being railroaded and having big faceless companies try to convince me that I want something I really don't want or like. I guess I will just have to do some research and try to pick the lesser of the disliked phones. I used to think about swapping back to a dumb phone, but I take too many road trips and use GPS too much in my car's ram mount. Jason you are one of the few reviewers that actually thinks similarly to my take on things. I understand perfectly your take on all of this.
  • I also switched to Android, but ditched Microsoft as well... they treated their own customers like second class citizens so I give them the same treatment.
  • Good article, Jason. I'm still using my Lumia 950, solely because I cannot afford, at this point, to switch. But this year I will switch, probably to Android. But like you, I'll "Microsoftify" my Android phone.
  • Mildly intrigued that you finally came over to the dark side but to be honest there isn't anything on Android or iOS that is remotely close to what Windows Phone 8.1 offered. The only reason I am on Android is because you can customize it and Windows offers a better experience on Android than it does on iOS. But there isn't anything like WP 8.1. You can Microsoftify your phone but it pales in comparison with the way that Microsoft's apps and services were baked into WP 8.1, and again on W 10 M. Only reason I use OneDrive, Word, and OneNote, is because of the tight integration on Windows 10, not for Android. It just makes sense to run those apps so my information is already on my PC when I finally do turn it on. I did the same with Amazon Photos once I picked up a Fire tablet. Best thing I ever did. Sad thing is that Amazon Photos works better than OneDrive for photos on Android. Neither are baked in, but Amazon Photos is just a simpler app. Microsoft does a better job of supporting Amazon Fire Tablet than Google.
  • Jason, you should check out Samsung's new One UI for their high end Galaxy smartphones. I just installed it on my Galaxy S9 and the new system-wide dark theme brings back memories of the love I had for the Windows Phone UI. It has a slightly similar feel to it which brings it one step closer more than any other smartphone device out there.
  • Meh, I made the change over a year ago to a Galaxy S8 and never looked back. Certain places I frequent have offers if I used their Apps. Using Apps not available on WP, I saved over $2,000 in the past year that paid for my phone 2X over. Lack of Apps killed WP. However, I still think WP is the best OS.
  • Download SwiftKey if you miss WP keyboard, it's my default keyboard app...
  • Yeah, that was one of the first things I installed😉
  • I'm happy for you. Glad to hear you jumping on another ship is currently working for you. I will be one of the last people to leave Windows Phone. Still rocking my Lumia 830 and I love it. I love tech too, I just don't think I'll ever own an Android device. But enjoy your new device. Unless if Windows Phones stop working completely on Tmobile that's what I'll continue to use for ever. Well, unless Microsoft surprises every one with a new device.
  • I still have a Lumia 950. Jason, could you do a follow up article about using Microsoft services on Android? I chose the Windows mobile platform so workflows across devices is seamless. So for example, if you take a picture with your phone, does the picture show up in OneDrive Pictures folder so you can just open the Windows 10 Photo Store app and then see it on a Windows 10 device?
  • It does indeed shows up in OneDrive but sometimes it is a bit slow and if you have many pictures OneDrive will often crash. I am using Oreo Android on a Samsung Galaxy S8. My main phone is therefore still a Lumia 950 XL. However, I did give the Samsung Galaxy S8 6 months. I might also dislike the small screen a bit. Perhaps I should have got the Note 8/9 something... Then again I want at least a 20mp cam so.... Yeah Lumia 950 XL is still my trusted solution for now.
  • Went all in with the Samsung Galaxy s8, but either that screen is too small or then I still prefer W10M because I am now back on the Lumia 950 XL again.
  • Dude both the S8 and S8+ have bigger screens than the Lumia 950 XL with a 5,7" screen vs 5,8" and 6,2" You just prefer W10M
  • "Dude" that is not really true... hehe : O ) The Samsung Galaxy S8 has a 18.5:9 design and the Lumia 950 XL has a 16:9 aspect ratio. The Samsung S8 does have a nice screen but it fells much smaller when netflixing due to the design. I do prefer W10M but I also prefer the world of Android with all its apps and perhaps even more the sense of security since it holds 90 percent of the market. I am very divided in that sense. I like both phones but I also know that my Lumia 950 XL will see less and less love from developers and MS.... Eventually I will just keep my Lumia phone around to behold a piece of history. However, I should have gone for the S8+ instead since that feels a lot more like a phablet.
  • clinging to my Lumia.
    will miss tiles, pinning to home, camera button, separate mailboxes, multitasking
  • Windows Phone 4ever! Glad to see those of you who are happy with their move to Android or iOS. I'll be rocking my Windows Phones until TMobile decides they can't support them. But hopefully Microsoft will join the fray once again with some new device. It might be a while, but I'll wait.
  • Am gonna replace my 950xl screen tomorrow. Am not ready for that leap yet.
  • Jason, as your next experiment I think it'd be interesting for you to try using a Chromebook as your primary work device for 3 months. And then write about it.
  • Jason, as your next experiment, why not try using a Chromebook as your primary work device for 3 months, and write about your experience. In all seriousness I wonder if it can be done by most people?
  • Not like Microsoft has given us any choice.
  • That is indeed the problem. MS recommends us to move to Android or IOS when we reach December 2019. MS has also invested heavily in their Microsoft Launcher for Android. While using a W10M phone after December 2019 certainly is possible then it will not be beneficial in the long run since MS does not develop on the W10M anymore and the app developers are fleeing W10M ad well now.
  • Great Warditorial, Jason. I actually just switched today to a Blackberry Key2. I went from a Galaxy S3 to the ATIV SE, then to a Lumia 950 and finally to the Blackberry. I love having the keyboard back (my last non-smartphone was a Samsung Alias) but I am really missing the WP UI which was perfectly suited to AMOLED displays, among many other things... I would really love for my next device run a full version of Windows, but we will see what Microsoft comes up with next.
  • Thanks for the competition, Jason. I'm still going on strong with my 950. 10 December 2019, here we go!
  • Microsoft is Rumored to this year to introduce the Centaurus folding 2 screen or single screen
    Mini Tablet that will Probably run ether a modified version of the "OS" that was going to be
    on the smaller pocket able "Andromeda" device or Run the New Windows 10 thin OS. Since
    Centaurus devices use Intel CPU's it will run some x86/Win32 PC programs. That may or may
    not just come from the Windows 10 Microsoft store. What I want is for Microsoft to install
    a basic 4G Cell phone in a Centaurus folding screen Mini Tablet so a person can send & receive
    voice calls with Centaurus Tablet. It does not have to have a lot of Apps because this would be
    a "Business" phone not a smart phone which has to have an Apps eco system. besides the
    Windows 10 Microsoft store has Apps & some Win32 PC programs for Folks to use and will
    get more as UWP apps are added to the Microsoft store this is the kind of Phone
    I want some thing with PC capabilities & a bigger screen to work with.