Report: Nokia EOS 41MP PureView Windows Phone in early trials at AT&T

Nokia still has big plans for their expanding Lumia line of Windows Phones this year with the next big reveal expected later this summer. That subsequent device is expected to be the ‘EOS’, an internal testing name that seems to refer to the Greek goddess of dawn (and not Canon’s brand of cameras).

The EOS is anticipated as the first 41MP camera Windows Phone, based off of the PureView 808 Symbian device, which was released in early 2012.  Ever since that Symbian phone was revealed, a device literally in the making for years, people have wondered when it will transfer over to Nokia’s new darling, Windows Phone.

Starting this past February, reports of a “summer release” began to make the rounds and that now seems to be the case.

What makes EOS so important is that it stands to be the first truly groundbreaking Windows Phone hardware that is miles beyond what other OEMs are doing. Currently the Lumia 92x is garnering high praises from both reviewers and consumers with its high end, unique OIS camera, which is itself revolutionary. But the promise of an oversampled 41MP camera phone with the Lumia hardware and Windows Phone OS is drool worthy.

'Elvis' has entered the AT&T building

Pureview Yellow

We’ve been able to confirm a few tidbits about this upcoming Windows Phone, which we will reveal here for the first time. We’re still going to file this under ‘rumor’ only because this isn’t our first-hand account of the device, but rather comes by way of numerous trusted sources whom we know and who have seen the device.

For one, the phone at AT&T reportedly has the codename ‘Elvis’. No, we have no idea why it is called that, but this is what we are hearing. (Note that is not a public name, but rather used internally for testing reference and to mask the device’s model number.)

Next up, we’ll just give you some bullet point specifications:

  • 41 MP camera with Xenon flash
  • Nokia Pro Camera
  • 32 GB internal
  • OLED Screen 768X1280
  • WP8 V 8.0.10322.71
  • FM radio
  • Flip to silence
  • Polycarbonate body
  • Takes a 35 MP picture and a 5 MP picture at the same time one to save one to share
  • Comes in yellow
  • No SD card
  • About 1 mm thinner than Lumia 920 with a big camera hump
  • No visible OS changes

Discussion

808 PureView

Nokia 808 PureView Symbian device from 2012

Notions of a ‘Nokia Pro Camera’ have been circulating around for a few weeks now, and while we don’t claim ownership of that revelation, we can say that it is on board this device. Nokia Pro Camera is expected to be an advanced mode for the PureView, which will allow users a more fine-grain control over the camera’s operations.

The OS version and additional features like FM Radio and flip-to-silence confirm what we already know about the Windows Phone GDR2 OS release and Nokia’s ‘Amber’ firmware, which will bring those features to all current Lumia Windows Phone 8 devices.

The device being thinner of course is very interesting as we understand it has tapered edges to help conceal the camera bulge, which while prominent is not as large as what is on the current 808. Likewise that it comes in yellow, which contradicts some earlier rumors saying there will be no colored devices.

We can also confirm that it looks nothing like the reported phone that was shown last year. Instead, it is an iteration of the Lumia 920 design template.

Seeing as the device is entering early testing at AT&T should tell us a number of things, including its potential reveal/release date. A July time-frame is certainly not out of the question and Nokia themselves during the Lumia 925 event mentioned another "continuation of the Lumia story" later this summer.

We’ll of course keep you posted on any more information that comes forth, but for now, we’d say for those of you on AT&T you should start putting some money aside. For those in the rest of the world, no this won’t be only on AT&T, though details of any carrier exclusivity periods cannot be discerned at this time.

Daniel Rubino
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Daniel Rubino is the Editor-in-chief of Windows Central, head reviewer, podcast co-host, and analyst. He has been here covering Microsoft since 2007 when this site was called WMExperts (and later Windows Phone Central). His interests include Windows, Microsoft Surface, laptops, next-gen computing, and for some reason, watches. Before all this tech stuff, he worked on a Ph.D. in linguistics and ran the projectors at movie theaters, which has done absolutely nothing for his career.

374 Comments
  • Oh god One more phone to make me jealous! Can't wait to see it in action
  • And Verizon will get it a year later?
  • And T-Mobile will get after Verizon? And Sprint never gets it?
  • And Nokia still doesn't learn from it's 920 exclusive mistake?
  • And you haven't learned it wasn't a mistake? 1) what price did Nokia get from AT&T per 920? 2) who would have promoted the 920 even to the extent AT&T did 3) would all carriers have taken it even if offered? 4) would all carriers have committed to taking on new models later on? 5) how was Nokia supposed to deliver more to more carriers when its well reported that 920 has been in short supply in MANY markets?
    You know, just a few points to start thinking.
  • Well said, V!
  • up to I saw the receipt 4 $4655, I did not believe that my brothers friend woz really erning money parttime on-line.. there aunts neighbour has been doing this less than 18 months and by now paid the dept on there apartment and got Mazda MX-5. this is where I went, QUE99.COMONLY  
  • 1) IDK. What price did they get from ATT?
    2) MS and Nokia and VZ and T-Mo.
    3) Yes.
    4) Not sure what you are asking here.
    5) Beef up production.
  • Let me just ignore your answers to 1 to 4. So, regarding 5 - in your counterfactual scnerio they would have beefed up production when they coud not beef production in the scenario that actually happened?
  • Try calming down a bit.
    My original comment was partially sarcastic and you blew it way out of proportion.
    My counter offer was purely sarcastic and you still rode the wave from your first over the top reply.
    You're right. Does that make you feel better?
    Drop it. I already have.
  • You are right, sorry about that. It's just that have seen that same "920 AT&T exclusivity was a mistake!" comment without any real analysis to back it up a few too many times and reacted too strongly.
  • I'm with Viipottaja... people love to zoom in, drop their little negative comments that make crystal clear their total lack of understanding of the market, and then pretend they were kidding, and not just unaware of how things work.  It's very tiring, and very hurtful to the moral and Microsoft's reputation in the long run.  When enough silly little comments are made, people get the idea that nobody is happy and MS and Nokia are not doing good.
     
    There are plenty of things to criticise (mainly MS's complete lack of urgency of making all the little imprrovements that would make people really happy).  We don't need to invent management mistakes and blame the "good guys" (Nokia).
  • I love Nokia. I own a 710 currently and will move to the 925 when it's released on T-Mo. The comment was partially in jest and partially serious. I wouldn't call my lack of understanding total. Maybe partial but not total. I'll admit that but the fact still remains that I believe Nokia could've made more people happy and sold more phones in the long run by releasing the 920 on all carriers, or at least more than one, upon release.
    And since we are on the topic of "Total lack of understanding the market",..
    You must not understand the development side of things when you state, "MS's complete lack of urgency of making all the little imprrovements that would make people really happy." Talk about blaming the "good guys".
  • Completely disagree.  Viipottaja's response above completely explains why the AT&T deal was liekly the best option for nokia.
     
    As for MS, I'm talking about the features that as a developer I could do in a day or two each tops, that fans have been begging for and have been ignored for three years.  Things like ringer profiles, global orientation lock, custom notification sounds.  These are things that would be VERY quick for them to do and get off the list, while making a LOT of WP users very happy.  These are things that nearly every ex-ios or android user complains loudly about because they are simply expected in a modern phone os.  They have little to no impact on anything else in the OS... volume profiles is the most complicated, but the other two are literally nothing.  There is no reason that light changes like these should be put on the back burner for years.
     
    Let's be very generous and say that it would take a single developer two months to knock out those three things.  How can anyone make the case that they shouldn't just do it?  It's just baffling.
  • You are stupid! And I literally only bought an HTC 8x because T-Mobile did not have the 920 I can't express the amount of days I spent trying to get around it. And don't let your dumbass bring up changing carriers. I don't regret buying it per se because my old phone was dead but if 920 had been on other carriers, looking at its popularity now, I'm pretty sure Nokia would have had greater success.
  • Agreed. I purchased three 810 on tmobile because couldn't get 920. And to others, no, I don't want to switch carrier. I've been with tmo for 5-6 yrs and am still happy with the services.
  • You should have purchased the 'Build' Lumia 920. Works great on T-Mobile LTE. :)
  • I am not suggesting you should change carriers. That does not necessarily mean that the 920 AT&T exclusivity was a mistake. The exclusivity _may_ have been the best option for Nokia at the time, and given that 920 was in short supply at AT&T for a while and was (is?) in short supply globally would have meant that had it been on all carriers it would have been in equally short or worse supply on all of them. I.e. the total sales number may not have been that much higher, or even lower given that the marketing support overall may have been even lower. And, Nokia may have received less revenue given that they may have had to sell it at a slightly lower unit price had they been able to get all carriers to take it on. Obviously, for you personally it would have been better to have 920 on T Mo as well. But hey, at least you will have the 925 on T Mo soon and it seems like a pretty darn nice device! :)
  • I understand what you are saying but perhaps Nokia felt that with their exclusive device the traction and popularity would catch on later so they were not eager to supply what they thought would be overload. If they provided it to more carriers, I cannot possibly fathom that they would not have created more. They are a large company, they may still be a remenat of what they were but if they are releasing to multiple cellular companies I'm sure they would have had the foresight to create early. They definitely would still have had shortages and probably more so because there would have been a larger pool but I would not say it is because of a manufacture constraint but because of a lack of foresight.
    However Nokia can now afford to make an exclusive becasue of the 928, and the 925. There is now a high end market dispersed on different celluar carriers with high enough caliber that even without the best of the best you still get a quality phone. Before when the brought only the 920 to AT&T Tmobile only had the 710 and AT&T already had several upgrades like the 800 and 900 serries. And given that they didn't even deem the 710 wothy of an upgrade to Windows 7.8. It shows that the Windows Phones that were on other carriers were shoddy at best. At the end of they day arguing about the 920 no longer matters because you can buy it and have it unlocked since its exculsivity has ended.
  • I don't know what the situation was in the states, but in the UK a lot of people who were excited about the 920 couldn't buy it due to carrier exclusivity, and by the time they finally did make it more widely available, the buzz had completely gone. Most retailers now either don't stock it or have it as an online only option. One sales guy that I asked about this said that by the time they could get it, focus and user attention had completely moved on to the upcoming HTC One and GS4 launches, and they couldn't justify the shelf space for what was now seen as an older phone.
    I think arguing about the strategy that they used for the 920 does matter, if only because if they don't get it into their thick heads that they need to supply the phones to the people that want to buy them in the way that they want to buy, then they're going to repeat the strategy over and over again.
    I've seen people not buy other Lumia models because a colour that they found particularly attractive was made a "colour exclusive" to another network. They've definitely not wanted to change network, so they've just gone for a different (non Windows) phone instead. Nokia are leaving a lot of money on the table by making it hard for people to switch.
    I understand that this is about guaranteed purchase quantities from exclusive networks/retailers, but that's a really short sighted approach. They need to have the confidence in the product to let it sell itself.
  • Not sure about what they got, but in most cases it is the price Nokia asks for a unlocked phone. Second, Microsoft proved that they won't really help support the device at that time, but they are changing that now. Also, if all carriers had the device, there is no incentive to market it more than any other smartphone, so exclusivity makes a carrier push the device that much harder and most likely, there is a marketing push clause to the agreement. And Nokia doesn't have all the capital to push every new smartphone in their lineup. Third, I'm sure most carriers would love the variety. Fourth, it means maybe they wouldn't take the Lumia 720 or other non-high end models, but the 928 and 925 are only there for exclusive carrier features. And fifth, beef up production and make a big stock ahead of time. But Nokia may have been trying to increase demand of the product by having a limited supply, but that does would ridiculous.
  • Well put. Verizon hasn't even mentioned the 928 my aunt went into the verizon store asking for a windows phone and they told her to get an iphone. Bad business...
    AT&T is the right choice.
  • Great ! you got it the stratagy i figured it out late because i got fustrated not seeing any lumia 9?? phones in my market (Trinidad & Tobago (Carribean)). I understand the plan.
     I'm waiting for the lumia 925 and still haven't seen the lumia before that on any top carriers here.
     
  • We've to remember that Nokia as a smartphone brand is not as well known in the US as in Europe ,  so they probably had to go through tough negotiations with the carriers to get proper marketing and subsidies. Nokia's  relationship with AT&T has traditionally been better than with Verizon, which is the reason why they get all the good stuff first.  This is of course unfortunate as Verizon customers seems to be more open to non iPhones 
  • Agreed. My original comment was more for the enduser wanting a flagship WP from Nokia. I think we all (non-ATT users) would agree that when we heard the 920 was an exclusive, we were a little upset knowing we would either need to switch or wait. For a lot of us it was wait...which sucked.
  • Nokia was my first phone, they are known in the US. They are slowly gaining traction again in the US.
  • I don't know what part of the US you live in, but where I live, Nokia is known for it's old phones that would never break. I had a L900 last year for a week before switching to a One X (WP7 wasn't for me. Maybe when the EOS comes out I'll give it another go from my One?) and every time I carried it around somewhere a friend would think of it as a low-end phone that could make a hole in a brick wall. "It's a Nokia! Don't worry!" they'd say. iFunny has TARNISHED Nokia in among teens...
  • Well I'm from the UK so I'm not really bothered about the carriers as long as it makes it to the uk
  • Only concerned about yourself, eh? You sound American to me! :)
     
  • Well I'm concerned about it making to the uk that's all
  • I can't imagine this one not coming to Europe. I hope it won't come to UK, Germany, France only though (and only a half year later elsewhere). But if it does, well, I'll make a trip :-) This will be the phone.
  • sprint didnt get it because they said they didnt want a windows phone
  • One of the reasons I bought my 928 on DPP for 12 mo. Might pay it off sooner if EOS arrives earlier than expected. Verizon will definitely be late to jump on board...as usual.
  • NO MICRO SD CARD SLOT >:(
  • Right? WTF!
  • Don't complain too much. Using SD storage on a Windows Phone is not a terrific experience. I'm using a 620 for a bit while I wait for the EOS, and thought i'd be sorted with a fast 32GB SD card, but the music app starts to get really slow when you have a lot of music on an SD card (like hitting an artist name and waiting several seconds, wondering if it detected your input or not) before it does anything. You can argue about the phone (purportedly) only having 32GB internal rather than 64GB, but not giving you the micro SD slot is just saving you from a distinctly non-high-end experience :)
  • What is the cause of this? Does this happen on Android phones too?
  • The unavoidable root cause is that accessing the SD card is just a lot slower than accessing internal storage, but i'd hoped/assumed that Microsoft would do something intelligent like maintain a small index of the contents of the card in internal storage (so it would be super fast to browse, and the only time it would have to go out to the card would be to actually play something), but this appears not to be the case. It seems that, for example, when you tap an artist name in the music app, it actually goes out and effectively does a directory listing on the SD card to find out what files are there.
     
    It's easily fixed if Microsoft wanted to do it, but as with all the little irritations with Windows Phone, it goes into the massive bucket of things that they never get around to because they have (supposedly) limited resources.
     
    Android has similar issues with content on SD cards, especially with apps.
  • 1mm thinner than 920?!! Oh snap!!!
  • But still a camera bulge, so tradeoffs...
  • well if its 1mm thinner - this should be the bulge already - so the phone in total should be even thinner besides that bulge 
  • ^Giggidy
  • That's a good point. Hadn't thought of that. Though IMO it would look better if they just made the device a bit thicker so that there was no bulge (and so maybe wireless charging could be built in?). It would still be thinner than the 920. But the camera b