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Building a gaming PC for the price of an Xbox One S

Insomnia PC
Insomnia PC

The Xbox One S might seem like an expensive console, or perhaps a waste of money compared to a more powerful PC. But with a starting price of $300 it can be difficult to cobble together a gaming PC that can match Microsoft's console at that same price point. But we like a challenge, so we decided to take a look at just how affordable and capable of a gaming machine you can put together.

Under $400



It's possible to collect various components into a shopping basket for just over $300 that should run games at decent quality settings, especially if you're able to grab a processor or graphics card from wholesale. However, looking at just the online retail giant, Amazon, we were able to put together a capable machine for just shy of $400, which isn't such a leap from the price of an Xbox One S.

Grand total of $359.92. Unfortunately, we don't have support for 1440p gaming, let alone 4K and HDR. Also, one has to take into account Windows 10 license and peripheral costs. That said, you have room for improvements to be added, be it a new CPU or GPU which would boost performance considerably. And you get to use it as a desktop PC too.

Under $450

GTX 1050

We're keeping most of the components from the above listing, but are switching out the R7 250 GPU for a new NVIDIA GTX 1050 Ti from EVGA.

That upgrade alone brings us up to $429.92, a slight increase in investment, but the returns are huge. The GTX 1050 is part of NVIDIA's latest line-up of GPUs and is a substantial upgrade over the R7 250. Gaming at 1080p should be far more fluid and responsive.

Under $500

RX 480

Most of this rig remains the same as before — it's plenty capable already, but a GPU upgrade is again in order, this time to an RX 480 by AMD. This brings us up to VR-capable territory. It's worth nothing that at this stage you'll absolutely need to be overclocking the Pentium 4 processor to get the most out of any powerful GPU like this one.

This build hits $489.02, just under our $500 limit. Gaming should be vastly improved at this point. The next component to upgrade would be a boost to 16GB of RAM. If you have some $50 more to spend, I would actually recommend stripping out the Intel CPU with an AMD FX- CPU (along with compatible RAM and motherboard) with the extra 8GB of RAM that should provide yet more improvements to experiences in-game.

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Have you put together your own build at similar price points? Think we need to switch some components out? Have a glance at our roundup of the best graphics cards and sound off in the comments!

Rich Edmonds
Rich Edmonds

Rich Edmonds is Senior Editor of PC hardware at Windows Central, covering everything related to PC components and NAS. He's been involved in technology for more than a decade and knows a thing or two about the magic inside a PC chassis. You can follow him over on Twitter at @RichEdmonds.

  • You don't need a cooler in these builds because the cpu comes with its own fan. I have the same cpu (G3258) overclocked to 4GHz running under the stock fan. I'll be getting the 1050 Ti soon.
  • that's too much for that fan. you're going to burn out your system. If you're oc'ing you really should get a better fan.
  • What are the acceptable cpu temperatures in idle and under load? When I go home I'll check, but I'm sure my cpu temperature is just about 60* C (140* F) under load.
  • You'd want to be under 65 c under load. Was thinking about it, and that's a pretty small chip. You'll probably have the fan going loudly constantly, but there isn't likely too much silicon under there to heat up.
  • I installed a bigger fan in my case, and used the stock case fan to pull air in from the side. Yeah I agree need to be below 65 and I think I'm. No plans to overclock any higher than 4Ghz.
  • Tech report has a solid review of overclocking that chip
  • Someone mentioned on a site that the chip starts throttling at 100C.  Obviously you don't want to run it near that temp., but it does show where Intel thinks damage will be done.  60C is plenty low. Even 80C shouldn't be a problem.
  • Stock fans are pretty decent nowadays. I mean, they probably won't be quiet under load but they are "enough" in most cases even with moderate OCing
  • Fully disagree. I've built literally dozens of pcs over generations. Chips are cooler, and fans are smaller. The gains are in CPU efficiency more than anything. I wouldn't oc basically anything on the intel or amd side with a stock fan. I HAVE, especially when younger and poor, but wouldn't now.
  • It's only too much if the temps are too high.
  • Exactly
  • ARCTIC Freezer 7 Pro Rev. 2 is a low priced cooler that would be a better option than a stock cooler. I use them on every build.
  • Can you also create the AMD-based builds as alternatives?
  • for people who like to buy terrible products? have you seen the last time their chipset was updated?! friends don't let friends buy amd cpus/mobos
  • What's this? Fanboyism with processors and such isn't productive. I also prefer Intel, however AMD offer many alternatives that are classically more power per dollar.
  • Power? For sure. You're right. They're absolutely more power hungry, and perform far poorer. Fanboyism it is not. They're a fundamentally bad purchase. This isn't a pc site, so don't feel bad. There literally isn't an amd CPU worth buying, even without their chipset woes. Nothing fanboy about cold hard metrics.
  • This isn't a console site either? Thought we were a friendly community that wasn't limiting itself. If AMD was a fundamentally bad purchase every time, they wouldn't be in business. Furthermore, the Xbox One has an AMD CPU and GPU. Those are my cold-hard metrics.
  • You joking?!?! AMD HAS BEEN BLEEDING BILLIONS FOR YEARS. THEY ARE A FUNDAMENTALLYBAD PURCHASE FROM A CPU/CHIPSET PERSPECTIVE. Might change with zen, but zen looks like a haswell competitor, and haswell launched 2014. Priced right could be decent as haswell is fast enough for most things. I never said amd gpus suck. I have a 290, and a 1060. But let's be clear, even their gpus are hotter and more power hungry than NVidias despite being on a smaller node. The cpu in the Xbox one is an amd jaguar based 8 core. Jaguar is amds intel Atom competitor. Atom vastly outperforms jaguar at a far lower power consumption. Intel killed it because it sucked. Exactly how many other devices run jaguar besides ps4 and xbone? Almost none. The reason is because amd made a ton of them but no other oem wanted them because they were poorly performing given the heat/perf ratio. It was killed for other markets. Sony and Microsoft got it CHEAP. It's a poorly performing cpu, which is largely holding back the two systems. Your position isn't an argument for anything. They weren't chosen because they were the pinnacle of pc performance. They were chosen because superior intel/nvidia parts would have cost more money.
  • While AMD does offer an alternative and competition to Intel, it's true that AMD has been on the decline lately. You need only to look at their stock price over the past decade to see how far they've fallen. There's also the fact that AMD chips are well documented to run a lot hotter than Intel chips. Anybody that uses Intel CPU's would tell you that the stock fan is more than enough to keep the system cool, but AMD users will tell you they need additional coolers like liquid cooling, etc. This is partially because Intel has managed to always stay ahead of AMD with their fab processes which is about to enter the 10 nm size next year where AMD will finally just reach 14 nm. This size difference is what allows Intel chips to not only run cooler, but use a lot less energy too.
  • It's part of why they run cooler, but not all of it. They're currently vastly better engineered. WAY higher IPC allows them to drop clocks and reduce voltage for the same perf. Better designed chips with superior power gating and fewer leaks means better perf/w
  • And yet... you're the one claiming stock cooler isn't enough when the talk was about intel CPUs.. Admittedly OCd ones
  • I wouldn't run an ocd chip on a stock cooler. Again, I HAVE, but it wasn't ideal. I took a pentium d to 4.3ghz and ran it that way for a long time. It did end up dying. Stock speeds? Go to town on a stock cooler. Over clocking? Get a better cooler. Plus, stock coolers are loud.
  • Running a CPU on a stock cooler while overclocked isn't inherently bad.  It is strictly dependent on temperature. If you killed your CPU by OCing on a stock cooler, it's because you weren't paying attention to temps.
  • Of course that's the case. What's your point?
  • You are basically telling people not to do any OCing on a stock cooler.  That is wrong.  OC your heart out as long as temps are okay.
  • I'm telling people that stock coolers are generally not made for overclocking (they aren't) and that anyone doing so on a stock cooler is doing something that the cooler wasn't engineered for (it wasn't) and is increasing risk. If they're on a budget or new at it (which is likely, since if either of those things wasn't true they'd likely just pay the small amount more for a decent cooler) then they're likely ill prepared for any issues that arise. And i'm right.
  • Then tell people not to OC at all unless you read into the process. I would not suggest anyone listen to someone who admittedly killed their own CPU by not managing temps.   Just because someone is on a budget, doesn't mean they don't know about OCing. OCing on a stock cooler is perfectly fine if you're managing it.
  • You're arguing a foolish position over a technicality. Yes, it's possible you could have a small overclock which isn't greatly impacting your performance or heat on a stock cooler. It's also basically a waste of time. WOW I got 100mhz! yay! who cares.
    ​Anyone doing any real overclocking (on amd that's a lot of people, and some of amd's coolers are built better since amd's cpu's are terribly hot and inefficient) isn't going to use a stock cooler. It's generally a bad idea. end of story.
  • You are so worried about being right, you present a tone that says "I'm better than everyone, don't bother replying." Simply reacting with more civility helps the conversation. I agree that typically people don't use a stock cooler when OCing is the plan.  That said, when every dollar matters, there are places to cut corners.
  • Right, and the place to cut isn't the safety of your parts. Let's be clear: Based on the conversations on this subject on this page so far ​I am more knowledgable on the subject. ​That's just the reality.
    ​I generally agree that genial discussions are the way to go. I don't think i've been uncouth.  
  • Again, if you pay attention to temps, your CPU is in zero chance of danger. So how are you cutting corners on safety?
  • AMD won the low bid for the consoles. The CPUs are pitiful. It basically exists because Intel would be attacked for being a monopoly without them, same for Nvidia. It's like decades ago, when MS had to partially bail Apple out to avoid monopoly status.
  • Why this guy reply to every comment? He thinks he is an PC expert, but only shows that he not have a clue about PC's...
  • Classically, but not any longer. Sure, they are more bang for the buck if you are using onboard graphics, but the minute you buy a GPU then the performance per dollar is clearly in Intel's court these days. That said... AMD supposedly is re-entering the performance market again. This might help them retake the !/W crown again. It has been too long!
  • It's a waste of time. AMD just doesn't put out good CPUs, and its processors are very power-hungry. MAYBE you can do something with an APU, but IDK how good the latest ones are.
  • Why comparing with $299 model? All the builds here have 1TB storage. Xbox One S 1TB is $349. Also your choice of GPU isn't good.
  • Pentium 4? Long live Netburst! As usual, the comparison falls short since you still need an OS license and a way to provide input to the PC. Buy an Xbox, get a controller and probably even a handful of games to get started. I think your best chance is to get an AMD A10-7890K setup. Microcenter offers bundled discounts, so you might be able to swing buying an OS and mouse and keyboard for the money. 
  • It isn't a pentium 4, that's a typo. it's just a pentium, dual core, no hyper threading haswell based. There is literally NO reason to go with an amd build at this time. recommending amd for gaming is a terrible decision. Perhaps when zen launches, but amd cpu's haven't changed since literally 2012, when they were already far behind intel. the amd 1090t is still basically their fastest consumer cpu and it launched in 2010.
  • That's more my point--you must really start compromising to get to the price point. These comparisons always leave out the $100 OS, but it must be included since in theory you are starting with a blank slate. The console covers all costs in one package, the homebuilt PC does not. 
  • Yeah, I agree with you. It's a disingenuous article, but a common one.
  • Who buys brand new Os every build? You literally take it with you from motherboard to motherboard, some mother boards have it built in the bios for free.
  • You have no idea what you are talking about. You are an idiot. I have an fx8120 16 gig ram, 1070 video card. All new games run maxed out at1920 resolution at over 60 fps.. Cpu usage clocks at 35/ 45 percent. Amd is totally capable. Previous video card was 770 and was also excellent. So there is no reason not to given how cheap chips are.
  • Not sure what to tell you. You're massively under using your 1070. Thats a terrible setup. Your usage being at 25% means you're playing older games. I have a vastly faster 4790k over clocked to 4.5ghz and newer games push that puppy high on at least a couple threads.
    There was a reason amd pushed mantle to lower cpu use, and it wasn't because it would have helped intel. They're hot, slow, and their chipset is literally half a decade behind intels. Because you put a 1070 in there doesn't make you right. It makes your planning poor. There is PLENTY of objective evidence to backup my position that amd is hotter, slower, and generally a poorer purchase than intel in every price bracket currently.
  • I have no problem with intel. They are a better cpu, but too pricy for me. With the right mobo, ram, cooling. I have cool master 120 rad water cooler with push, pull config. Amd perform just fine. Been gaming since dx2 66 days. 1st gaming card voodoo geforce 1 so i have been gaming on pc for a long time. I upgraded for quantum break, runs 60fps flawlessly. I have fallout 4, witcher 3, doom, tomb raider, the devision etc All maxed out on highest setting on highest resolution. All games over 60 frames no slow down. So yes with right cooling amd do not run hot. It's a 3 year old cpu that with the right support does run all current games with no issues. What more can I ask for. For me to upgrade further you are talking 500 plus and I will not see any performance increase. Intel is not the be all, and end all, cpu is not as important as long as its a higher end 6/8 core. With the right video card, even my 770 most games run fine. The only reason I upgraded was for quantum break and it's day and night. So again a 3 year old amd will play any game on the market on max settings. I also use 3d monitor and software to emulate as it gives better results. I am expecting to upgrade in the next 2 years, but to have cpu last 5 years given the price, you can not ask for more. Amd is a capable cpu for gaming. I do it every day and have for the last 3 years. I don't care about specs on paper. I give a damn about real world gaming and one upgrade to my video card has given me at least two years of life to a 3 year old cpu. I don't need more than 60 fps maxed out settings at 1920 res. So I don't need intel at the moment. Amd performs just fine
  • You're right that it'll play games. You're wrong that it's a better buy in terms of perf/$. Sure, you built your system 3 years ago. 3 years ago amd was selling LITERALLY THE SAME CPUS THEY'RE SELLING NOW. We aren't talking about buying amd three years ago. Your past purchase isn't relevant
    As for your 60fps, sure. That's fine, and sufficient, but you should be getting BETTER THAN THAT WITH A 1070. that's a 1440p-4k card. You're claiming that it is enough, and it is for your setup. But you've clearly made poor choices maxing a cpu which would be burdened by a 1060 with a 1070. Will it run quantum break? Yes. Are you silly for suggesting that it's a sane choice today? Yes.
  • You are an intel fanbox and an idiot. The average person at lower lvls would be totally happy with amd. We are talking console comparisons', see article. Yes if money is no object then I agree intel is far superior. The low end duel core Pentium's are garbage. FX is so much better for price building a low end system. FX with amd480 and 16 gig of ram will out perform current console. If you have 600+ for intel parts etc, go ahead. But for a low end system amd fx 8 core still petform better than intel duel core junk.period. And again how is my system a poor choice. Can't see more than 60fos. Did not have to spend 600 on new mobo, ram and CPU as there is nothing currently on the market that I can not play. FX is still a good chip for lower end gaming. You do not use one, own one. Again you are a fanboy
  • Lower end, where we aren't concerned with heat and noise, and for some reason comparable i3s (which vastly out perform amd) aren't available, sure. It will work. That's low end. Pairing an amd CPU with a 1070 is a poor choice. Upgrade that CPU in a year or two and enjoy your new video card which will finally run at the speed it was meant to.
    Call me a fanboy. Cool. Doesn't make me wrong. and of course you can see more than 60fps. That's a falsehood spread to justify poor quality. THERE IS A REASON AMD HIRED THE HEAD OF TECHREPORT.COM TO TAKE OVER THEIR GPU FRAME TIME TEAM. IT WASNT BECAUSE 60FPS WAS PERFECTION.
  • Unless you are on a 120hz monitor all the fps in the world won't help you above 60. As well, until you hit 200, amd still has a performance per dollar value. I don't think about wattage when I plug in a pc, servers etc, sure...but 125w vs 85w? Nah.
  • Of course you're wrong. Frame times aren't a far better metric than fps. enough that EVERY single GPU company now uses it as the metric. lower frame times = smoother gameplay always.
  • To me it seems you literally don't know what "literally" means..
  • I find it funny how you're complaining that AMD processors haven't changed since 2012.  For most users, this wouldn't matter.  For non-gamers, you can do everything on older hardware and not even notice.  For gamers, as long as you have decent graphics, it's sufficient.  Even the PS4 and XBone are using these older processors, and they can handle the graphics and gaming requirements.
  • My position isn't that they incapable. it's that they're out of date and ​a poor purchase today based on what else is available at their price points. ​They'll work. You'd just be silly to buy one given the chipset, power, speed, cost vs the competition.
  • I agree; it's obvious you make a sacrifice when you look for the lowest price possible.  You're either buying a bad Intel CPU or a semi-decent AMD CPU for the same price.  But I think the argument that it's out of date is lacking.  Even Intel, when introducing their recent CPUs, had to compare them to 5-6 generations ago to justify the performance differences.  There have been very few improvements worth the upgrades.
  • Yeah, since Haswell, Intel has largely been targeting the mobile segment, especially ULV. Not to say that desktop hasn't seen any benefit, but the IPC gains have been rather small from Intel lately. Some of that may be from lack of competition in this space, but the days of the 65-95W desktop CPU in every home are long gone. It's 7-25W laptops now--if people even turn to those machines instead of their phones. It's another place where the console offers a benefit, as the HTPC never really panned out, maybe because consoles did a good enough job instead. Plugging in your gaming machine into your HDTV has its limits as well, so now we're talking about buying a decent monitor for gaming. 
  • True; intel struggles to compete on the mobile field, especially with ARM, so that's where they focus development.  But as you say, with the lack of competition, there's not much improvement. Personally, I'd love a HTPC like that cancelled $100 XBox device that was supposed to appear this year.  I guess I should look elsewhere for my needs, as there are plenty of options outside of the Windows environment.
  • You're comparing intel to amd and that's a problem. Intel has been posting 15% gains per year for roughly the last 4-5 years, at least since sandy bridge. AMD has posted no gains, and the chips specifically targeted in this article, the FX-8120 (launched in 2011, 125w), by another poster, has literally 60% of the single core performance of a $20 cheaper (according to i3-6100 (35w). Now, there is something to be said for multicore gains, but the i3 has 2 physical cores and hyperthreading​. It's also clocked quite a bit higher. There is no question it will stomp on the FX and do so at literally 1/4 the power usage.
    ​intel has been making slower gains than years and years ago. it's still vastly​ faster than amd, or anyone else in the business, including arm.
  • I'm not sure if you are trolling or really believe what you're saying.  Comparing Intel to AMD is the only comparison possible; what other x86 CPU maker is out there to compare an Intel chip to? I agree that AMD desktop processors use more power than similar Intel ones.  Although your numbers are off (the i3-6100 uses 51w, not 35w), they also provide more overall performance than similarly priced Intel chips.  That's why PassMark's benchmark lists have AMD processors higher than any new Intel processor, in the charts of price/performance.  Only old (first and second gen) Core chips and old Xeon chips compete on that level. Face it: Intel is vastly overpriced for what they offer.  Yes, their CPUs are great, but their prices don't justify that performance.  AMD should be an option when building a console-priced gaming PC.  That's why Sony and Microsoft both did that.
  • Yeah, i accidently grabbed the 6100t w. sorry about that. My point was that amd and intel are in different leagues. AMD hasn't updated in almost half a decade. they're not competitive. full stop.
    They don't provide more permance. If you factor in the multicore benchmarks than amd becomes somewhat competitive. If you look at single core, which is still the most important metric for games, they get slaughtered.
    ​I'd like cheaper cpus too. However, intels prices do seem to justify performance, and the best way to confirm that is by checking market share and profitability: it isn't in amd's favor.  
  • I'm sure Intel has deals with OEMs to vastly undercut their resale prices on their CPUs, which probably fit a better price level.  I'm just not one to go solely with market share and profitability, especially having that discussion on a site that reviews Windows phones. ;)
  • intel did have contra revenue on atom, that stopped being the case a while ago. It hasn't been the case on higher end chips since the athlon days, and intel was fined and paid AMD 1.25 billion USD for it. That's not the case anymore. And, you're right. This is a wp site. You suggesting wp is a better OS than android or iOS? Cause it ain't. i ​love it, but ms has treated it badly since 7 launched. ​People are right that the others offer more.
  • Tom's Hardware says to go AMD on a sub $100 processor.  Just a thought
  • Last boxing day I built my first PC for under $200 just to learn how to do it. I used the exact same motherboard and cpu in your article but I borrowed a used 256GB SSD and an old GTX 630.
  • The Intel CPU is a bad choice for entry level gaming. An 860K would be cheaper and faster, especially in today's heavily multithreaded games.
  • Here's the reality: you can't build a decent gaming pc for as little as they're trying to spend. you can build a crappy, annoying, frustrating, disappointing pc for the amount they're trying to spend though.
  • Yup, it's a decent look to see just how little PC you can build, and how much you need to sacrifice, to match a gaming console.
  • Console typically comes in cheaper, at least initially, for 'equivalent' performance. As others have noted, we still need to consider the OS license (Windows most likely) as well as input devices such as mouse+keyboard. Then there's the bundled games which the console typically comes with that can easily add another 60-100 USD. And the most important 'benefit' of console is arguably the optimization from the developers because they know the exact specs of the target machine, and for the users, it's just plug and play - no drivers, settings to fiddle with etc.
    That said though, PC can be upgraded over time, is 'infinitely' backwards compatible, games are often cheaper compared to consoles (with lots of deals too).
    For me, the ideal scenario is to have both console and PC :-)
  • So how do you plan on actually using these PCs without a mouse and keyboard in those build prices?  You're also missing the OS license (unless you are willing to use SteamOS and severly limit your available library).
  • It is very ironic that an OS called Steam OS can barely play any Steam games.
  • good article to show the upfront costs.
    this does prove how cost effective (for the consumer) the consoles are with comparing the prices and hardware, there's no doubt about that. they also have that ease of use factor that does not compare to pc, not every gamer wants to be a tech guy. i have an xbox one s and i've always had a custom pc. the benefit of having a pc is this cost that has been calculated is a one time cost upfront. software has not really caught up to hardware over the past 6-7 years so you can run these rigs for at least 5 years and if you really wanted to you would only have to upgrade the video card if you wanted to keep up with a medium-high level of gaming (i usually use the same vid card for about 3 years). the only reason i have an xbox one s besides the media bonus of having it plugged into your cable and tv is generally sports games only since EA does not offer them on the PC (i think only FIFA is left). most all other titles can be played and for cheaper on PC. i'm mainly an FPS gamer so as always there's no beating mouse/keyboard setup.
    it would be nice to only have one device and maybe be able to stream that device to whatever input you wanted whether it be TV or monitor and keyboard/mouse/controller. i really love having a PC and mouse and keyboard and a station to play at but i also love being able to lay on my couch and play with a controller, i just don't like the fact that i have to have 2 different devices to do it.
  • I'll just comment on Pentium CPU. I had it for a few months and wanted to share my experience: You will have no problem with games like CS: GO or StarCraft 2 with highest settings 1080p. I had Pentium G4400 (Skylake) with GTX 960 and I got over 100 FPS on CS: GO and over 70 FPS on StarCraft 2. So CPU was more than enough for e-sports games. I also played Doom 2016. The CPU was surprisingly doing a decent job and it was barely bottlenecking my GTX 960. So when I switched to i5 I didn't see much visible difference but the CPU usage dropped a lot. Also for some reason, Vulkan was not working while I was using Pentium, after I switched to i5, Vulkan started working. So Pentium is obviously a budget CPU but it might do the job surprisingly well if you know its limits. Also you can buy LGA 1151 Pentium now and then upgrade to a Kaby Lake CPU later since Kaby Lake will have the same socket. Having said that, some recent games are CPU intensive and won't work very well with this CPU. Witcher 3 is an example. Also if you are doing video rendering or game streaming, this CPU, again, is not a good choice. It will be visibly slow for those kind of tasks. I would recommend i3 for a budget PC for those tasks and if you can afford, i5 with its 4 physical cores.
  • If you want any solid level of gaming that doesn't need to be upgraded fairly soon at this price, go used. $400 can go a long way if you are willing to put in a bit of time in sifting through the used market.
  • That would be my suggestion as well. I built most of my gaming rig from Craigslist. For $250 I was able to get an i7 2600K, Z67 motherboard and R9 290X. Bought the rest of the components new.
  • +Windows 10 Licence
    +xbox one s bluetooth controller
    +CD-Drive(wait, 4k UHD Bluray...?)
    Then you maybe have the same that xbox one s offers. But nowhere near in price anymore.
  • Remove the unnecessary cooler, change to an AMD-based build, add your parts and it's enough when comparing to the 1TB model. There are subreddits dedicated to this. It can clearly be done, just differently than this article.
  • And the peasants downvoted...
  • Heh, yeah. Sadly pretty common on this blog
  • nailed it
  • Where is 4k Blu-ray player?
  • You're going to build a 400$ low end pc and buy a 4k display?! Why?
  • 4k Blue ray player alone cost more than 300$
  • Maybe where you're from. But I can get a blue ray drive for around $100 on new egg.
  • Then it probably isn't a 4K UHD Bluray player and more likely a standard Bluray drive. I'm not even sure if you can buy a 4K Bluray drive for PC's yet.
  • >Then it probably isn't a 4K UHD Bluray player and more likely a standard Bluray drive. I'm not even sure if you can buy a 4K Bluray drive for PC's yet. You CAN get drives that CAN read a 4K blu-ray disc(I have one made by LG, and it costs $85)... but, there is NO software for a PC to play 4k blu-ray back yet.  There is another side, No PC drive that I KNOW of (as there is no software to test) supports the new security path for 4K blu-ray so there is a lot of unknown at this point. So this discussion is Null right now as it's just not available. I have done a LOT of homework on this one...PC side, not yet but, in about 6 months to a year it should be avaiable (powedvd etc)
  • Xbox one s is still cheaper. 299 or 259 this black Friday and its more convenient.
  • Xbox aren't also general use devices.  So with price, we also need to talk about value​.  Xbox have also never seen hardware upgrades beyond hard drives.  I'm buying an upgrade of a Core i7 and an Nvidia GPU that does 4k gaming for the same price as a One S, and I don't need to buy all new games to get improved graphics in my older​ games.  This is something Xbox does not do. PC games are constantly being patched for graphics improvements. If you're poor, you're poor.  You can either be poor and impatient and spend less initially but more in the long run, or you can be poor and smart and save a little longer for the up-front cost of a PC and not have to replace the whole thing every 3-4 years.
  • Thanks for this article. Sick of people pushing the myth that PC gaming is "so much more expensive" than console gaming. I love my Xbox and will be one fo the first in line for what ever Scorpio is called when it comes out, but I hate stupid myths.
  • It certainly has a larger upfront cost. I play games on my high end pc, but it is vastly more expensive than console.
  • Yes a Highend PC has a high upfront cost, but you don't NEED a high end PC, especially if you're happy with the same specs of an Xbox.
  • The same specs of an Xbox on a pc won't give you Xbox performance. In fact, if you could buy a desktop jaguar cpu (you can't) you wouldn't be able to play much newer than battlefield 2, and likely not even that with windows 10 using all that terrible ipc
  • I never said they were equal. I said if you're willing to deal with the lower quality performance of an Xbox, you don't need a super high end gaming PC, sorry if I wasnt clear on that.
  • It IS so much more expensive though. It might not be thousands, but for a good gaming PC you're looking at double or triple the console price. These PC specs in the article are kind of low-end products, and already close to double the console price. My experience with PC is that the chances of hardware failure increase substantially with low end hardware. Cheap RAM is killer for a PC.
  • It depends on your definition of Good. Yes, I spend around $2000-$3000 when I build a PC, but I'm looking for an experience that I can't get from a console. If I was looking to get a console equivalent experience, it is not even close to double or triple. There are multiple ways to do it, don't use your anecdotal evidence as proof that you have to pay a lot more.
  • Cheap RAM is just fine, especially when you are talking about speeds at or above 1333. 
  • Play Asia sells Windows 10 Pro licenses for under $30.  They quite often have sales on them and you can get one for $15-$25 regularly.
  • So in answer to the subtitle "is it possible" - no!
  • Best way to get a gaming pc for those prices is to shop the used market. I see plenty of systems that are almost there... Just a used gpu upgrade and boom you're in business. I myself am selling a system for US$375 right now. i7 930, 18Gb RAM, 128gb ssd, 1TB HD, premium case, Antec 750W PSU, Radeon R7 360, DVD drive, and Windows 10 Home license with physical DVD. I play Rainbow 6 siege, Forza, and Doom on it. Add an RX470 and it'll really move.
  • My 1 year old rig beats all these setups considerably. And yet what the article doesn't tell you is the complete hassle of gaming on PC. To get my rig running The Witcher 3 to match my Xbox One S upscaled to 4K is near impossible. With constant crashes, glitches and frame drops that just aren't on the Xbox One Version. To surpass consoles you actually need to go quite a bit higher in hardware over the console equivelant. There's a reason 70% of PC gamers on Steam barely have hardware matching Xbox One. With the advent of Scorpio I'm ditching gaming rigs altogether. With 6tflops of you performance and 320gb/sec memory bandwidth at a likely price of £399-£449 and the likely ability to play all pc games on the console its a no brainer the Scorpio will comfortably outperform the majority of PCs gamers use on Steam.
  • Gaming on PC is like skiing; costly, but much, much more fun than sledding. I liked BF1 when I played it on XboxOne, but the controls felt like they were mapped on a fixed axis. With PC, everything looks better, is more fluid, and I use my Xbox controller alongside my keyboard for flying aircraft. If you don't have the money to spend, consoles certainly make sense. But if you do have the money, PCs are great devices. Especially with a 5.1 setup. ;)
  • It's kind of funny, a lot of the PC master race crowds out there keep saying PC gaming is infinitely more powerful than consoles. And while that may be true, most PC gamers actually don't game on the latest high end most expensive GTX GPU's like the 1080. In fact, according to Steam, most people game on midrange GPU's from the 700 series for Nvidia, followed by Intel HD Graphics (not even the latest). So really, most PC gamers are gaming with hardware close to, about the same or weaker than that of current consoles.
  • I would definitely recommend at least an i5 with the RX-480. Otherwise you are going to get CPU bottlenecks in modern titles
  • Well, When it comes to gaming on a PC, you get what you pay for.  If you want to play top end games as MAX level (higher quality than the Xbox one S would offer) at least 1080p, plan on doubling if not trippling the costs. Normally the CPU and GPU are the most expensive pieces.  Keep in mind, if you go this way and build a $400 gaming machine that plays games at mid level graphics, in a year, most games you will not be able to play and you will need MAJOR upgrades (CPU, Motherboard and RAM) Your best bet is to get a better base (CPU, Motherboard and Memory) and upgrade the video card every year or 2, to keep you playing modern games but, the life span of a gaming PC, is about 3-5 years depending on what level you go in (the more you spend, the more you get). As for Windows for it, If you upgraded to 10 from a RETAIL/MSDN copy of 7 or 8, you can move your licence from machine to machine(as long as you remove from the old one). If your computer "CAME" with WIndows, you have a OEM version and this version can not be moved (tied to the hardware that it came with) of course this is the legal path. I know this is a nice entry to PC gaming but, if you really want impressive graphics BETTER than the Xbox one, it's going to cost you.
  • G3258 or i3 4330? i have these two options,how of these will perform better with a 1060? i see some guy overcloak a G3258 to 4ghz or more and i3 is only 3.5ghz and not overcloak 
  • I see articles and youtube videos like this all the time and it just pisses me off that they never factor in the cost of the OS. You CANNOT build a PC gaming system for $299, end of discussion.  Do they all assume you just pirate Windows 10, or should you just accept Linux or Steam OS that limits the games you could play compared to a Xbox or PS4? PC gaming is superior to console, but cost wise it is a larger investment.  I'm tired of people writing crappy articles trying to rationalize you can game on a PC for the cost of a Xbox- you can't. 
  • I see articles and youtube videos like this all the time and it just pisses me off that they never factor in the cost of the OS. You CANNOT build a PC gaming system for $299, end of discussion.  Do they all assume you just pirate Windows 10, or should you just accept Linux or Steam OS that limits the games you could play compared to a Xbox or PS4? PC gaming is superior to console, but cost wise it is a larger investment.  I'm tired of people writing crappy articles trying to rationalize you can game on a PC for the cost of a Xbox- you can't. 
  • Get out of here with that pentium processor. Gotta be an i5 or AMD equivalent, why would you do that to yourself!!! These are such budget build, might as well just get a PS4 pro....
  • You can use i3 6100(6th Generation)
    for 100$.
  • I think it is very irresponsible to not include the cost of the OS or any peripherals like controllers needed to make the experience 1 to 1 with an Xbox One. Your cheap builds increase in price significantly and you just make yourselves look foolish. You mention the additional cost of an OS and other parts but those directly factor into a build like this, so why exclude them?
  • I agree. I was looking for the OS listing as part of the cost. Didn't see it anywhere. I'll just build this nice $359.92 PC box. And put it above my fireplace to look at. Guess I can go dumpster diving at Staples and Father Joe's Village for the rest of the stuff. :D    
  • I would replace that 1150 Haswell CPU/MB for a 1151 Skylake based system. For one thing, Skylake isn't really that much more expensive that a Haswell, especially if you buy a box processor with an included heatsink & fan. Plus, 1150 is a dead platform with no new CPUs for it, and CPUs for it are going to dry up evenually as new processors are released on LGA1151.
    With the <$400 build, I would you a G4400 with an Asus H110M-E/M.2 & a single 8GB DIMM [I selected Vengeance LPX 2666 but dealer's choice] and an XFX R7 250X and using the same case, PSU & HDD as the article. The system cost ~$340 including $30 in rebates.
    For the <$450 build, I would upgrade the g4400 to a i3-6100 and the GPU to the EVGA from the article. All other componnts are the same and it costs ~$450.
    In the <$500 system, The only upgrade from the $450 build is from the TI to the PowerColor Radeon RX 470 4GB Red Devil. The 470, imo, is a better matched card for the 2 cores, four threads of the i3. Cost including rebates was ~$485 One other thing I might add is a value 240GB SSD, from Adata, Kingston or Curcial for example, that can be had for under $80, for your OS and would have enough space left for storing frequently played games. I just couldn't fit it in this budget without compromising somewhere else, like killing the 1TB HDD.