Canceled Nokia Lumia prototype surfaces with impressively slim bezels

I'm still mad at HP for that one.

Look it's likely Windows will still be on phones, even if W10M itself goes. Everybody should chill out about it

I am not sure, but it's definitely Nokia that made this a thing and brought it to the mainstream! Afterwards everyone followed!
 

Ummm.... Nokia was done regardless or who took over. They sold to MS because they were failing.

No. They were not failing, they still had the greatest mobile phone market in the world and were coming up with new software. What happened to Nokia was classic hostile takeover by MS because MS wanted a brand name to be a flagship of their mobile OS which is the one that failed.

Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

Yours ignorance I guess. Nokia was and still is safe and strong, only their mobile department had its issues. With Lumias and MS they were making history and it was all growing again well since Nutella shut it off with untaxed MS money in Europe and his reasons to show off in front of board of members.

Nokia had a really good name in my country. Even the younger generation who have not even touched a nokia phone knows 3310. After being business partners with microsoft, nokia was ready to produce good phones. It even had a 41mp phone. Nokia was even readying for 3d touch. But nokia was heavily limited by the operating system. Can windows phone 8.1 run 3d touch? Hell no.

When microsoft killed nokia branding for phones, people here did not even realized it was just replaced by microsoft branding. They thought it's really the end.

I think you need to do some research, their market share was tumbling, most of their market were dumb phones which were dropping due to smart phones.     If you tihnk MS killed Nokia, i can't help you there.  

It is normal for the market share to get lower when new devices come out. Especially out of curiosity. But Nokia with symbian and adding Meego would have not fallen to the point of no return, never. their plan before Trojan horse came, would have come out pretty good, maybe with not that much market share, but for sure not dead. Windows phone 7 and eflop bullshit were the beginning of the end of Nokia smartphones. Ms, never helped Nokia, never pushed updates and pretty much used them as slaves for their crappy system. Actually forcing them, with their crappy contract. Only now, after almost 7 years, is windows worthy if a nokia device. And this ms idiots have no ideea how to make this work. Eldop and ms killed Nokia. Punkt. You do some research before being a fanboy;).

Please do some research if you are telling him to do it also. Nokia was pushing WP really great specially here in Europe thanks to Nokia sales channels and many connections with telecom companies. WP was bigger than iOS at 30+ markets, mostly here. Germany, Poland and few other countries with market share way above 20%.

Microsoft didn't bring a good phone to the market either..

Look at windows phone sales bro, it didn't even "competed" against android.stop blaming nadella, nokia was going to die sooner or later.using windows for past 4 years and blame Ms team who didn't gave best software for phones like 1020 which was the best phone.

Yes, they celarly were great: http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/.a/6a00e0097e337c8833017ee7da0bed9...

They bought it in a hurry to prevent them from going all out android

That doesn't mean they weren't failing. Nor does it mean Android would have saved them.

Looking forward to buy the Nokia 9 as my primary phone and the Nokia 6 as my spare phone. Cheers!

Same here, Nokia will become great again with android. It's already happening, all MS did was slow them down.

Im sure it would save nokia. We don't even know samsung back then. We only know nokia. Everyone owns a nokia. We didnt even know how to unlock a non-nokia phone. If a person owns a bb, he's pretty rich. But iphone amd Android phones came and nokia os can't​ catch up. That's why people switched brands. If nokia went with android immediately, people here won't even touch a samsung phone.

^^
True!!

They bought them because they were the biggest Maker of Windows Phone and primed to dictate design (which would have been a good thing). They held like 80% of all Windows Phones made. Microsoft couldn't innovate quickly enough to keep up with what Nokia wanted to do.

Design cool phone to run Android. Convert to Windows Phone, cancel phone. ...... Write cool app to run in Android. Convert to Windows Phone, cancel app. Story of our lives.

wincentral xD

This could happen... I'll wait until last model will be updated. Until then i'll not leave Windows.

Me, too.

and it was for the Nokia X OMG LOL

Wasn't Nokia X supposed to be inexpensive?

actually the lack of front facing camera makes it inexpensive

I would've purchased this in a heartbeat if it had the specs to back it up... Looks so much more interesting than this 950Xl

Seriously that green outline looks so bad to me. I prefer how the lumia 950xl hides the case behind the glass. That makes it look awesome in full black. And I still think it looks great, it just that it feels cheap. Put it beside the iPhone 7 plus in matte black and it looks very similar just one feels amazing the other like plastic.

My green 1520 disagrees with you as do I.

I honestly don't know what makes it so interesting or better than the 950. Looks just like most phones do.

Agreed. I wish this was the 950/XL that launched. Would have been amazing.

???What??? It looks almost identical to the 950 I have sitting on my desk except for the top portion of the phone. 

The near bezeless display looks identical to the 950/XL when it is only just now becoming a thing? (G6, S8) 🤔

Interesting. The boy has a ballistic missile on hands and dreams about a butter knife. 950XL has an excellent display/screen relation, above 85%, has Gorilla 4 protecting it, fixing the great defect in L1520, its extremely fragile screen. Light weighted, has a solid construction, solved the heat bug of Snapdragon 810 with water refreshment, amazing 4K display, stereo sound, usbC, sd slot, two sim card slots, intelligent auto-hiding menu buttons bar that leaves all display area available, FM radio, an frequently updated OS, annoying haters that are always prophetizing its death, one of the best camera and photo suit available on the market, with Carl-Zeiss lens and triple flash. Maybe it hasn't the appealing top design of Lumia N9, 920 or 930/Icon, high visual standards, I agree, or S8, a really beautiful device, but, in its purpose of discretion and slim appearance, it's a very interesting device, and, people, policarbonate ISN'T plastic and is as expensive as metal. Enjoy your smartphone, which, with 1520, is the best phone in Nokia/M$ existence.

What makes it an Edge to Edge display? I see a small bezel. But, I feel like I am confused on what an Infinity display is too. I see many called Infinity, but have a bezel. So.... I am confused. Edit: Don't down vote me, help me understand. I asked a question...

It's more a marketing term than anything else. I figure the easiest way to categorize it is any display with greater than 80% screen-to-body ratio.

I was afraid of that. Marketing terms are so misleading. Thanks, Zachary.

No problem.

Damn!! Would have been a nice device.
. So HOLD ON... This means NOKIA knew how to make slim bezel phones back in the day and it is the leadership of Satya and Terry that ruined everything... 😐☹☹

===> *** *** *** on MS

Microsoft seriously needs to step up to the plate and make a good phone I mean they could of been first to release an edge to edge display but its cancelled. As soon as they cancel something good someone comes out with the same thing and someone else takes the credit.

End days watching cancelled Lumia's and feeling sad.

I am confused as to why we keep getting articles about what could have been. What's the point?! Can we just move forward. I am sure there are more interesting and informative subjects that can be explored and conversed about, instead of these constant "Microsoft blew mobile again and this is what we could have had!" Really, who cares? I'm a fan of the mobile platform but feel cheated when I read articles like this, and yes I know I don't have to read them, but on the other side I feel that they shouldn't be written in the first place. Most of the Windows Central articles are fun and informative and I like reading them, but can we please move forward. MS has been very inconsistent with mobile and has terrible communication with their mobile strategy towards their fans and enthusiast, I get that. Do I wish it were different? Of course...but lets move on folks! Imho

Never. We want 5x more articles about whether W10M is dead before the month is out

I knew it! Microsoft had many devices which would have saved Windows 10 Mobile but instead just gave up!

As if hardware was the issue.

Hardware was the problem! Check out phones like 650, 950s and Elite x3, they are very good, thats because they have good firmware. Everything about the software can be fixed! 950 was superb but most sales are in mid range market, 650 failed in that because it was the most expensive phone with snapdragon 210!! It had lowest end specs with mid range price! Lumia 650 couldn't even go against the phone it replaced, 640xl! It was Hardware where Microsoft failed!

No. Every device that ran Windows Phone flopped and flopped hard. Hardware was definitely an issue, especially since Microsoft only approved outdated hardware, but there were quite a few other issues with their software and strategy. Lack of customizability by manufacturers was probably the biggest issue. Thinking they could do the locked down Apple thing and still sell it to Samsung or Motorola or LG was a huge mistake. Android was an easy sell to them because it gave them all the power. Motorola couldn't make the Droid or Samsung couldn't have created a phone as marketable as the Galaxy S3 using Windows Phone. Android gave them the power to make that device and the motivation to heavily market it. That is where Microsoft went wrong. If Microsoft wanted to go locked down, they needed to bring top notch, first party hardware and software and they needed to take care of all marketing. They did do quite a bit of marketing for WP7 and WP8, but they didn't have the marketing chops of Google combined with Samsung and Verizon/Motorola. Balmer even admits they needed to bring first party hardware earlier. Not giving carriers and manufacturers the motivation to push Windows Phones was the issue. They couldn't tackle the iPhone or Android juggernauts on their own.

These devices were Nokia's, not Microsoft's. And the problem was never the hardware.

Well they had 10% market share when they were trying...

If by 10% you mean 3%. They never came close to 10%.

Think in certain markets they broke the 10% barrier but probably hit about 3-5% worldwide at one point

They had above 30% in some markets!

What markets, when? They hit 10-15% in a couple small markets, but a small percentage of a small market is not many device sold.

So India and China are small markets?

I was surprised too, but yes, India is a fairly small market, especially back in 2013-2014. They have been growing since, but Windows phones didn't keep up there. They are also very price conscious, so not much is to be gained from sales in India. They never did well in China at all. Not sure why you would even bring them up. Did they ever break 1% in China?

Just 'small' markets like Germany for example :> In many European countries WP was big thanks to Nokia. 

Yeah, when the total worldwide market is 300-400 million devices, these European countries are respectively small. 10-15% of those sales certainly aren't enough to keep a huge company like Microsoft or Nokia happy. Worldwide, Windows phones never broke 4%. That is the number that matters. A small percentage of a small market doesn't move that needle.

I was joking about that "small" markets - just Germany is over 80 mln people. Whole EU is twice bigger than US!

The best quarter Microsoft had was late 2014 when they sold 10.5 million units total. That quarter, the total smartphone market was nearly 380 million devices and Android sold 300 of them! Sales then dropped significantly in 2015. Percentages in Europe didn't change those numbers. If those sales were all L920, 1020, 1520 930, etc. then Microsoft may have been ok with it. They were not. The vast majority were the lowest end devices, 520s, 530, 630s, etc. They sold very few flagships. Very few. It wasn't sustainable. It is quite obvious why Microsoft was frustrated and didn't continue pushing Windows phones. People like to rewrite history though.

In European markets it reached two digits. But only because they were Nokia phones. The moment Nokia left, so did the users.

Users left even before Nokia. The Nokia name was enough to bring users to the platform, but Windows phone wasn't good enough to keep them. Nokia was leaving after they were unable to sustain sales of Windows phones.

I find this to be the most accurate. Still though, I am very sure buying Nokia was a very big mistake, Microsoft killed Nokia twice. First by forcing them to use only windows in times of windows being quite ****. Windows 7 and 8. Second, by buying them, the ultimate kick hit to it's customers. Windows 10 mobile early experience made the leftovers run. let's face it, one year was a DISASTER.

Various European markets had WP above iOS. In particular Germany and Italy, two of the largest countries. 

So? A small percentage of a small market does not make a difference. They should have been outselling iOS everywhere. In the US you could literally buy 10 L520s for less than the price of the cheapest iPhone.

http://www.palminfocenter.com/images/uploads/us-mobile-market-ahare-oct2...  Albiet this was Windows Mobile.

Yeah, Windows Mobile doesn't really count. It was dropping fast.

Someone at Microsoft needs to be seriously slapped

Why good things get cancelled?

Never liked those lazy toyish design language of the Lumias. Their hardware design never looked premium IMO, not even the one from micosoft, and plasfic isn't the problem. The Galaxy S3/S4/Note 3 were plastic too, but their design still looked decent like something that effort was actually put into. These Lumias, just unapologetically a slab of plastic.

Actually, this is your problem, not everyone's. I find Lumia line design way better and premium then any samesung device. Especially the 800 and the 920 they wer the first with nice curved screen, they looked more premium then any crapple

"Actually, this is your problem, not everyone's" No sh*t sherlock, what do you think "IMO" means? "I find Lumia line design way better and premium then any samesung device. Especially the 800 and the 920 they wer the first with nice curved screen, they looked more premium then any crapple" Good for you kid...

First of all, watch your language KID. I am more older then you and your mom together. Second, IMO means= I'M Oligophrenia, so I only wanted to help;).

You put a 920 on a shelf next to an iPhone 5 or whatever, and almost no one would agree with you. The Lumia may be more durable, but the iPhone is like a jewel. The Lumia looks like garbage in comparison.

The early Lumias looked quite good, given their prices, and specially in comparison to the Galaxy line. Against the iPhone is another story, mainly because people (people's choice is just that, it doesn't make the choosen a better thing just because) thought then, and still does now, that aluminium is premium and makes things look like jewels. On top of that, the Lumia 800, 920 and the 925 had design concepts that were later adopted by the competition. I can even remember, at that time, that the look of the iPhone, design-wise and by people that do understand industrial design, was perceived as boring, while the Galaxy line was perceived as cheap. You can see now that some things change, but others not so much.  

What? If they look like that why was apple copying them? Color wise and so on? Second, the time 920 was out their was iPhone 4, is that a jewel to you? cause to me, that looks worse then a beaten poker-card. You call that jewel? I put the 925 against that and slaps the hack out of it, in two seconds. Lumia 830, 930, Hack, I put N8 in front of it, those look like a jewel, not cheap aluminum scratched out of the box. copycats tried to make anodized aluminum out of their garbage. Well, I still own N8, and it's color never went out, after 7 years, go figure. jewels my ass!

Are you talking about the iPhone 5C? The cheap, crappy iPhone that was a sales flop? Compared to the thick, heavy, plasticky L920 the iPhone 4 was much nicer feeling when you picked it up in store. One of the negatives for the L920 was its weight and thickness! How it might look in 2 years isn't as important as what it looks like on the shelf when it is time for an average consumer to choose a phone. Jewels are made out of glass and metal. Toys are made out of plastic. That is how normal people think. I am not saying it is right, but to argue that the average consumer is going to prefer the L920 is kinda crazy. hindsight is 20/20 and the L920 was a huge flop.

I will never buy another iPhone.

Quitters: Zune, Surface RT, MSFT band and now mobile. why would a consumer have any confidence that they will stick with anything consumer related.

Kinect too. They really screwed over Kinect consumers and developers.

It is Nokia, the true legend. Microsoft just destroyed everything great. My next phone is Nokia 8 or 9.

Sorry forgot about kinect, just too many products left by the wayside to keep track of 😒

So behind look at iso and android, they've been doing innovative things that would have blown the competition. Nokia was on a roll with qi wireless charging and a awesome 41mp camera, could of made a waterproof phone or 3d touch, the possibilities could of been endless and could of been here today.

Couldn't have said it better, Nokia was trying on so many levels to get Windows phone out to the world.

Should we leave out any and all thoughts about mobile? It's not like Microsoft gives a hoot about it anyways... I've been a Windows Mobile dedicated user since the Samsung Blackjack 1 was first released and now truly considering the IPhone 8 when it's released. My 950 is almost useless... No PayPal or Ebay apps supported. Disappointment on all levels.

What is the purpose of these “might have been” articles?

x 100 thumbs up.

To see what might have been.

Just for reminding us to jumpship

To cover costs until they have something to publish 'what will be' articles (exclude the fan concept articles of Jason Ward)

#FireNadella

Can you just stop reporting this! - Its over and done and dusted, no point spreading more bad feeling than we feel already.  Same goes for mock ups.  MS will release a device capable of running full fat desktop apps when the tech allows it to, thats the only chance as no matter what they release it is already doomed due to no friggin apps!  Showing articles lke this just rubs salt in the wound...makes me think that Microsoft are purposefully releasing this information in order to kill off the platform 'organically'.  

Kind of nice. A smudge nightmare

Snapdragon 200 and 720p, no thanks we already had the Lumia 520.

Looks like mi mix

Thanks Nutella!

"720p display and Snapdragon 200 processor"  why does anyone think this would have been a "saviour" of anything? oooh big deal it had super thin bezels. it had the same basic specs that everyone(rightly) called out as horrible for that other recent leaked unreleased phone.

Yeah this article seems to be just click bait junk.
They probably found some old info on a phone that was tested years ago.

OMG...I don't care. Yes, it's interesting, but let's all move on for god's sake. There are some great phones still out there including the HP Elite X3, the Alcatel Idol 4s, the 950/xl, the Acer Jade Primo, the 640/xl, 650...Let's give MS the benefit of the doubt and just shut the **** up.

The problem now is that NONE of those phones will work on Verizon. And that sucks.
The best I could probably do is go back to a Lumia Icon (929) and ditch my 950XL.
The ICON was a really solid phone. It had the same specs as my 1520 which was one awesome looking phone. 
But the ICON is smaller. It's hard to go smaller once you are used to larger screens. So for now I'm stuck on T-Mobile top use my 950XL

If MS had kept pushing Nokia when they had a decent share outside the US they would have started getting apps and THAT would have given them the next wave of momentum.

I guess next year Microsoft released a Android ROM

What. Wayyy ahead of it's time. I would have bought this on day 1. Sigh.

When was this slated to come out? Before or after McLaren? Could have helped when they gave away every single contract renewal coustomer on Verizon/ATT looking to replace their 925/928/1520/1020

You KNOW the discussion is about Windows Phones when the headline is about a cancelled phone.

at the end of the day, what is the point have  to have Windows Phone OS on a newer design anyway?
i wonder if the former owners of Nokia are kicking themselves they went for the microsft take over?
the boast about the ditched new phone is it's thinner "bezel" (the frame, in effect, that the screen is mounted onto, which these days dictates how thin and light weight any device is), when any other company tends to be aiming at no bezel at all.
when it comes to windows phones, we have one in the family. ONLy one, and will never get another one.
we got it as a temporary replacement for one of the grown up phones, intending to give it to one of the kids after we intended to get a new one for ourselves, but the kids just laughed in our faces that we'd even think they'd wish one thrust upon them.
so even kids are well aware how awful they are. i get the impression that the ONLY people who speak well of them have never actually spent much time on up-to-date and efficient   systems like Androids, I-OS, or Ubuntu phones all of which are cutting further into the cutting-edge as is possible.
but windows phone? good god, even BBC have stopped making an app, and say that it is ok, you can still use it on your browser, when most folk will most certainly not be able to do that as BBC won't work on WP 8.1 browsers, and i genuinely do not know one single person who has or intends to move onto a WP 10. In fact, watching most video streaming on WP is generally a joke if you want to get to the end without your phone crashing, and likewise with almost every app made for it.
in fact, can anyone think of any serious browser makers? or serious app makers? or serious game makers who bothered to make apps for WP?
no, i wouldnt think so. and for good reason. it's crap.
can anyone genuinely see themselves using windows or windows phone for serious work of any kind? no way! too risky. i nearly split my sides when i read reviews by microsft "experts" sticking up for WP, and came to the conculsion that windows phone is an OS for folk who don't really know much about running a good miniature/mobile or maybe even desktop OS perhaps?
i am just being honest, that's how it seems. it reminds me of people who yet stick up for bent political parties as that's how generations have always voted, despite the evidence in front of their face.

at the end of the day, what is the point in having Windows Phone OS on a newer physical design anyway? it can't handle much.
i wonder if the former owners of Nokia are kicking themselves for the take-over by Microsoft?
an the boast was that it had a thin "bezel"? a bezel is the frame that computers are traditionally held in, though nowadays tends to refer to the frame that holds a screen in place good greif! how old hat is that when nowadays any other designer is aiming at no bezel at all! when it comes to windows phones, we have one in the family. ONLY one, and will never get another one.
we got it as a temporary replacement for one of the grown up phones, intending to give it to one of the kids after we intended to get a new one for ourselves, but the kids just laughed in our faces that we'd even think they'd wish one thrust upon them.
so even kids are well aware how awful they are. i get the impression that the ONLY people who speak well of them have never actually spent much time on any up-to-date Androids, I-OS, or Ubuntu phones all of which are cutting further into the cutting-edge as is possible.
but windows phone? good god, even BBC have stopped making i-player for it, and say that it is ok, you can still use it on your browser?
when most folk will most certainly not be able to do that as it won't work on WP 8.1 browsers, and i genuinely do not know one single person who has or intends to move onto a WP 10.
in fact, can anyone seriously think of any serious browser makers? or serious app makers? or serious game makers who bothered to make apps for WP?
no, i wouldnt think so. and for good reason. it's crap.
and as for windows in general? i no longer know any folk who need computers for serious work who would trust using windows with their hard work. too likely to be unstable and lose your work. and the folk who might still use it for work? it may simply be because they only know the work-station they are used to on Windows, or they're fave work program is onyl made for windows (in which case i guess it is a very old desktop work station app?) i nearly split my sides when i read reviews by microsoft "experts" sticking up for WP, and i have come to the conculsion which i have, that windows phone is an OS for folk who don't really know much about running a good miniature/mobile or maybe even desktop OS (which seems to be most windows users in general actually now i come to mention it!
reminds me of those families who have voted for the same political party or bought the same newspaper generation to generation despite the evidence of how out of touch or bigoted that party or newspaper has become. or folk who still think fossil fuels are the way to go. or Trump voters. i jest, but.... then again... am i?
 

Microsoft is not serious in developing good quality of  mobiles material and apps how ever win apps are the best if they change material ans develop all apps will be still the best one. That's what I keep a hope. Please do not diappoint Microsoft fans

Ding ding ding, android troll here...who cant't spell, punctuate or speak English properly LOL. Reminds me of an old man in a basement somewhere...with candy. Beware kiddies!

Actually, I have Windows Phones, Androids AND iOS in my household.
Aside from there being more apps available, the WIndows 10 OS in itself does more than Android or iOS.
If you have a Samsung, for example, you're not even experiencing barebones "Android".
You're experiencing the eye candy and extra features of an app that runs on top of Android. Windows Phone does have potential but isn't well supported with apps these days. Well, kiddie apps liek snapchat.
You obviously haven't used Window's Phone since Windows Phone 8.
It's pretty nice that many of the apps I use on my phone work and look just like the ones on a Windows 10 PC.
There are nice features like Skype integration in modern Windows 10 Phone which now also handles the SMS/MMS texting on the phone and in turn syncs it to Skype in modern Windows 10 PC builds.
No matter what Windows 10 PC, Laptop or tablet I am logged into, my text messages imideatly display to that device.
You can even copy and paste photos and files right into skype and they are sent via the SMS/MMS. All while your phone sits untouched. Also, while Onedrive is a paid SECURE feature, if you use gmail, google drive etc, you give up your privacy to whatever conversations or data or images you send via those services. And that's a fact.
So, some of us don't want 3rd party businesses getting copies of our email conversations or images of our children. Hopefully Microsoft makes a huge recovery when they release always connected ARM based full PC devices later this year.  Again. I've got and used all the popular devices. And when I used "Windows Mobile" over a decade ago, Andoid and iOS wasn't even a wet dream and WIndows Mobile was the way to go. The next viral thing can just as easily make Android or iOS be forgotten.

Unfortunate.  I love my Nokia Lumia.