New photos of Microsoft's next mid-range phone, codenamed Superman, reveal a bright green Lumia 720 successor is being developed, along with new firmware.
Two new Lumia phones, thought to be the 'Lumia 730' and 'Lumia 830' are reported by the Verge as arriving in the next few months. Recent images leaked of the Lumia 830, which is thought to have the codename 'Tesla.' Now, the first photos of what is understood to be the Lumia 730, codenamed 'Superman' have been obtained by Windows Phone Central.
The Lumia 730 looks to be the successor to the Lumia 720, one of the more popular mid-range phones by Nokia announced in early 2013. The Lumia 730 is aimed at the growing 'selfie' market as it allegedly features a 5 MP front-facing camera and a 4.7-inch display. Additionally, the Lumia 730 looks to carry on the bright green color scheme found with the Lumia 63x, Lumia 930 and Lumia 1520 series and features on-screen keys.
Not much else is known about the phone at this time, although we are attempting to gather more information on specifications.
There is also evidently new firmware being developed for this phone that likely coincides with Windows Phone 8.1 Update 1 or even Update 2, which is thought to arrive in November. The name of this firmware is 'Debian Red,' which is the actual name of a color, though more often associated with the Linux Distro. However, Debian Red' is very likely the internal codename, similar to how Lumia Black was originally called 'Bittersweet Shimmer' and Lumia Cyan was 'Cherry Blossom Pink.' The firmware names go in alphabetical order, starting with A for Amber, Black, Cyan and now D for Debian Red.
Any features of Debian Red, including improvements or optimizations are currently unknown, although we are working to find out more.
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These are the first photos of the Lumia 730 and new 'Debian Red' firmware
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I would be excited, but i'm on TMO USA and this isn't low-end enough for them to get.
Good front and rear camera, but without a camera key..!? DON'T care the front camera is 5mp or above for midrange ....No camera button & capacitive buttons.....Just another predecessor on the way
Is that the iconic fabula design from the 920?! OH GOD YESSSSSSS
i cant find a camera button and wireless charging either removed or inbuilt... but cant b the superselfie phone without a dedicated camera button!!
yup
Other rumor sites say that the Lumia 730 will be Verizon and AT&T exclusives. Crappo! What about T-Mobile or an unlocked version sold everywhere? I am sick of Verizon and it black and white color only choices! T-Mobile is no better at their focus on "White" Only! Where is the color here? Only AT&T for now has colors. Microsoft/Nokia has screwed up the selling process in the U.S. big time! Everything is restricted one way or another on Noka Lumia smartphones. It either dummed down the hardware specs or features; and/or restricted the color choice or both. I don't even look at the international version of Lumia phones because I can get so worked up! LOL!
It's a Bird.... It's a Plane.... It's Lumia 730 ....
Amber, Black, Cyan, now D = Denim or Dandelion .... [ +720 ]
What's the point in marketing the phone at selfie-lovers and only including a mere 5 MP front-facer?
It miles better then the 1.2MP front face cameras of all the rest of the Lumia if there is one. Icon only has a 1.2MP camera. All the rest of the high ends have that or a 2.1 MP. This will be the top of the line front facing camera unless iPhone 6 has a better one that is!
We just need 1 gb ram and quad processor.
I use a Lumia 720 and would obviously appreciate a successor. I could do with a proper upgrade,though. That would mean an upgrade in RAM, chipset and HD capacity. I can do without the lack of camera buttons and on-screen keys,though. An upgrade should be positive and not otherwise.
Debian Red (hat)? Is MS going all out for Linux?
Nope.. as stated in the article it's an actual colour, and in no way related to that Linux distro. Except maybe the fact the logo is red also.
Lumia 800 coming to mind
http://images.fonearena.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Nokia-Lumia-800-White-Magenta-Cyan-04.jpg
So next must be emerald
Lumia Denim.
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Are those 5 dots near the flash a microphone?
debian red seems faster already ... Lol... If it has 1gb ram , its definitely my next phone :)
The version numbers for the "extras" are the same as those of the Black firmware on my 920. Wonder what's being improved.
Whahah that's a debian phone! XD beated Ubuntu phone to it xD
Found my Lumia 720 successor only if it has 1 GB of RAM else 925 looks nice...
So with these new phones being green, does that mean any hope of a new phone from Nokia having a cyan casing are gone?
Computer blue! Rasberry Beret Grafetti Bridge , Purple Rain lol
Why the on screen Keys Microsoft ... WHHHHHHHHHYYY ???.... You are an exlusive OEM... its not that you have to make common hardware to run various mobiles OSes and so you can save cost.... On screen buttons are for small OEM's and even they are having dedicated capacitive ones for the Windows Phones they make...... you gave them an example with a demo device which you also descided to retail.. the Lumia 630... Point noted... Now please stop.... If a phone with the screen of lying on the table needs to still advertise it needs to have those buttons actually printed on the glass.. got it??? oh i forgot you have the crappiest marketing department in the world....
So far it seems that the only upgrade that 720 owners could do is a... 925. (That is maintaining style and somehow size)
Wonder when we'll start hearing about the new round of high end phones. Don't really care about the mid range, though I understand that and the low end are where most of the sales will probably happen.
Why is it still saying 'Nokia' on it? As much as I love my Nokia devices, I'm really interested in seeing what new and interesting features Microsoft is going to bring to the table as far as smartphone design (please, no Kin jokes), especially now that the 3-D gestures have put on hold indefinitely.
Should have called this the Green Lantern. :D
I hope we receive this new firmware before the apocalypse , why can't Microsoft bypass carriers as they do with OS updates ?
i think ms have to wait , not launch new new phones so faster
Right now, I'm very happy with my 820. It will take quite a bit for me to upgrade.
Can t stand on.screen buttons and no camera button .
Still looks the same. Like exactly the same. Where did the innovation go.
I like the everything about the design and looks of the phone, except for those on-screen buttons.
Name it batman and you have my money
They can't. Copyrights.
If Microsoft has any marketing sense; they make the announcement around September 10th or 11th; just after Apple's iPhone 6 is announced. Then have it available to buy the next day after the announcement - maybe with a $20 discount if purchased on that day or two!
4.7" is just the right size for me after using the Moto X for a couple of days. Superman looks interesting! Superman has to have Snapdragon 801,1GB RAM, 802.11AC, LTE 6 and Micro SD slot. If Tesla is 5" and has a Snapdragon 805 in it; I will buy it if it is unlocked and sold on Microsoft's webstore or is a T-Mobile phone. Otherwise; I going with Superman; unless it is not T-Mobile phone and it is with another U.S. Carrier. If I cannot buy it like I cannot buy the Icon; I going with an new iPhone 6! It cost me about $400 more but I can use it anywhere on any carrier I want to go and the resale will be tops. $849 or abouts for 64GB version. Plus, the iPhone has status and looks, it will be flat out the best then any phone out there.
I am frugal; so I like Windows Phone but it is a very constraint matter! Microsoft/Nokia market is placing a big "pressure" for me to leave since each high end model is pretty much exclusive to an U.S. carrier. And the U.S. models are limited in some way from the international version of that model by the particular U.S. carrier. Just at the breaking point now!
I'd they have marketing sense they WON'T do that. Otherwise people will just say "look at Microsoft's pathetic phones next to the iPhone 6".
The farther from Apple they present the phones, the better.
So you like the one high end model exclusive only to one U.S. carrier. You are for that particular phone to be locked and each Lumia have only the radio frequencies for that one carrier only. You are for no choice. Good for you! You must be an Verizon executive to be so anti consumer friendly!
Uninspiring
This could be a winner, with updated processor and if it has a 720p screen. 4.7 screen would be a nice bump up from the 4" L525 I have now...
The camera lens seems to not be level/flat so it should have a higher end camera
Whatever......I want to know when I can get a 1525.
Looks like Microsoft is not going to leave the Nokia branding on the back of the phone.. I would really love to see just a small windows icon on the back or just make the back clean.
Things I hate about Microsoft, too many updates and revisions, that sucks !
And picture of 730 and 830, whats the point ?
THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME, ITS A BLACK BRICK
Btw,
How about new Nokia with dual sim card GSM and CDMA ?
"It's a black brick"
HAH.
OMG YES! this gonna be a dual sim again!!! I hope the 730 will carry 1Gb RAM. A rear camera w/ flash, camera button and a complete sensors!!
Nokia Lumia Desire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shades_of_red#Desire
just a guess :)
Bad guess.
What is DebRed's RGB?
Firmware is alphabetical and so is the OS. 8.0- Apollo, 8.1- Blue, 8.2- C_____?
Chameleon? Camel? Candy? Cheetah? Chuchu? Lol!
"Coming soon..."
I hope this is the successors of both 620 and 720.
I mean 720-like features on a 620-like price.
I was waiting for this and the 830 to come out and decide whether I'll get whichever or a 925 instead. The onscreen buttons are a turn-off for me, and if there are really no side buttons, that's worse. I hope the 830 leaks are true or else I'm buying a 925 instead.
Cant they increase the size of the display atleast to 5"s
It does also appear the phone has double sim. On the connection bar out shows a little '1'
Nice!
Last year we got amber and black update so I guess this update is coming this year, cyan is getting worldwide and this update (Debian) will be released at the end of the year and a while after that update being released WP 9 will release for Developers.
So ironic that it has a new firmware yet the majority of Lumia users still haven't even got Cyan...
Speaking of selfies I just position the camera correctly on my 1020. 38 megapixels of selfie goodness.lol
Im sure this phone wont be as perfect as it could be. It will have low resolution 960x540 or it will be too expencive over some useless features like the 5 mp face camera or wireless charge...
Just NICE!!!!waiting eagerly for it......
Based on price points and specifications, the 520 successor was actually the 630. As such, the 620 successor will likely be called 730 and the 720 successor will be called 830.
Ignore the numbering scheme and pay attention to the details.
I guess the 830 will be both the 720's and the 820's successor. One successor for midrange since one can't be the 930.
Pass
Code name Superman, color Kryptonite green.... Interesting... Very interesting. I love the green though in all seriousness looks like it glows :) much like Kryptonite.
Have you noticed this small camera bump on the back? It could be the pureview technology:) and BTW, this color is sweet
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How is a bump "preview technology"? I though bumps were just raised surfaces?
Both L1520 and 925 have a small bump on the rear (and they are relatively thin phones) that is why I'm saying it could be the pureview Technology. Mind you, I'm just speculating - I am far from saying it is there for sure.
so does the 630/635
Well, given that I'm still running on amber (Lumia 810, but with 8.1 update 1 thanks to dev preview), I they can call the color whatever they want. Sure wouldn't mind a firmware update, though.
Looks like another variation of the bland 630 soapdish design. Not impressed with the apparent lack of a camera button or the on screen navigation buttons. What a visual downgrade compared to the classy and elegant looking 720. That was a beautifully minimal device
IMO the green color on every new Lumia is getting stale and old. It looked the best when it was on 620 with the cool glossy dual color shell but on the 530, 630, and 1520 it's flat and cheap looking. What happend to cyan, yellow, and red? Those are awesome colors.
The green on the 630 is dual shot with two greens and it looks fantastic. Very eye catching.
I wonder if Microsoft will make 620 dual shots again. They're the best coloured phones I saw. The 630's colours are bland compared to the 620's.
I am not sure if I am correct, there wont be no high-end phone with a 5 inch screen size. Woww, Microsoft. I know that Nokia released the 1520 on ATT, I am not even sure when we will be getting a new high-end handsets for the US since the 930 is not availabe here. Handset mainly for ATT and T-mobile. Verizon users already have the Nokia Icon.
Verizon sign to get the HTC One M8 for Window! So Verizon will have two high end WP to choice from.
Non-halo phones bore me. If they boost WinPhone market share - that's cool. But I want a new halo phone to replace my 1020.
Whichever device that is in the pic, looks pretty nice. Though I noticed that all version details in that extras + info are same as in my Icon (running Black).
At least it still has the Nokia branding
I'm really hoping that Microsoft will stop naming their phones with numbers. I remember reading that they wanted to steer away from these type of names, but I really hope they follow through. The numbers get confusing at times and I can't even imagine how confusing it is for non windowsphone users. The "Icon" is refreshing in comparison to the sea of number names in the Lumia line up. The numbers, I believe, don't really leave a lasting impression considering my friends just call my L1520 "the big phone" or I tell everyone that ask what my phone is that it's a "Nokia". In short more iconic names rather than forgettable numbers.
Waiting for 730 but i wish it has 5"+ screen
Throw in 1GB of ram for $200 or less and we have a winner here. (SD card support is an assumption)
Very nice design, looks like the georgeous looking 1520 (which simply is too big for me). But with virtual on-screen menu buttons it is a no go for me, they just scream cheap. At the moment there is no new Lumia phone that I would like to buy right now: 1520 too big, 930 thick and rather ugly. 530, 630 cheap looking. Was hoping for this to be the one, but no... :( Could it be that the old Nokia sabotaged the product line before the Microsoft merger and preplanned less than stellar devices...
A bit more angular design. Realignment of the speaker. 5 pinholes for rear mic near the LED light. Gone are the good ol' camera button and the physical capacitive buttons. Another downgrade is about to come again with the Lumia 720 successor after 630 and 530. Better to wait for Lumia 830 methinks.
Do you have x-ray vision to look throught the hand holding the phone? Otherwise it's impossible to know if it has or not a camera button.
I'm really excited about the 730. I bought a 720 from Hong Kong for use on T-Mobile because it was such a well rounded device. I would like to see a few things out of this iteration: 1) keep the f/1.9 camera and refine if possible, though it looks like this has a hump so maybe it's even better 2) keep that loud speaker 3) up the RAM 4) double down on that design, which it looks like they've done 5) keep the screen a reasonable size and up the resolution, I think 4.3-4.5 is a good size for the 700 series. I think that would be a reasonable step forward if they can offer it at the same or slightly lower price than the 720.
WE WANT THE D!
HAH.
AMOLED Screen. This thing has one. I am 100 % sure about that.
Imagine if it would have had a front flash. Dammmmmm!!
This is total BS
Over 70% of Lumia owners are still on Black!!!!
And they are already talking about Debian Red and GDR1 + 2
WHAT THE ABSOLUTE F***!
Really bro? You are lucky you don't have android. 95% of android phones aren't even going to get the stupid ass "material design" android L. Stop being selfish.
Be angry and unreasonable. It will take you far
Well sorry for growing ever so impatient with the secrecy and lack of information from people.
It's been over a month now wth is taking them so long. e.e
Think about what it takes to do this for every nokia WP8 device, and each dvice could have region and possibly even carrier specific fiirmware. All 3 things, firmware, hardware, and the os update has to work together. then the carriers get involved and add weeks or months to this wait. and these products don't constitute a huge slice of their business, so they get shuffled to the bottom of the pile.
very good
Ugh, another Lumia that looks exactly the same as the others with a toy like color. Not a good looking phone. Still pretty amazing that all of those version numbers still match the Lumia Black numbers.
It's interesting that their firmware update and codenames are both in alphabetical order.
Slight camera hump, that might suggest no built-in wireless charging. Though there doesn't appear to be contacts for a wireless charging shell either.
Looking good really good my next phone is dis one
Why is Nokia still making thick phones in 2014?
How do you know? Ik has a small camera bump so my guess is it will be quit thin.
Because the 720 was comfortable to hold and durable to boot? I dunno just a guess. But let's first address that you have not seen a side view of this device.
they are so bulky!!!
i dont get it
Man i am going to buy this
OMG! The design! -_- completely opposite to the sophisticated 720! seems like this will also come as a dual SIM option & on-screen buttons? why? & the guy holding this phone is so clever- hiding the camera button (if it is :D ).
& there's ZEISS camera with flash! O:)
this is gonna be good but I'm getting a 630 cus I can't wait to get a WP8.1 device!
I feel like they're just making all of their phones look the same, with basically the same specs. Nothing special really.
If you want to name it after a Linux distro, please, not Debian. It's just horribly outdated. Oracle Linux or Open SuSE are two good choices.
I like a lot the Dusk color option, btw.
I call BS - What part of Debian is outdated?
Agreed! 1000% And how fruity is it to refer to an operating system as "horribly outdated?"
Here we go. Another pretentious Linux user. Noone cares.
Sometimes you use Linux because you have real reasons to do that, not for being pretentious. My real reasons to use it are called: computer 1, some hardware whose support was dropped with Windows 2000 that works perfectly and I won't dump; computer 2, a driver bug depriving me of screen dimming with my laptop and any form of proprietary AMD display driver. On both cases Linux saved the day, and works a lot better than you think with WP 8.1 ;)
I'm sure 'Debian' must be a registered trademark so I doubt that will be the name when it's released.
Irony: "Superman" phone comes in the color Kryptonite.
Can we please get back to regular colors that aren't fruity?
Red, blk and white, PLEASE!
Glossy lipstick red isn't fruity? And BTW, all of these phones offered in green and orange are also available in black or dark gray and white.
Shhhhhh. YOU are fruity.
I happen to like the new colors! If you like bland colors; get an Icon from Verizon. The have the same taste as you; black or white or white and black - your choice! Ugh!
Looking the size of the phone comparison to the hand, its like 4.7-5inch screen sized.
Hey Daniel, firmware update will be surely for update 1 since the very next update should only start with 'D'. What do you think?
Debian Red... Maybe this firmware will run Android apps
This is what's coming with Windows Phone 8.1 Update 2, ETA November of 2014
Sweet mother of god...This is what I was I waiting for I now realize.... :O
Looks like this is also a dual sim phone. You can check the carrier network on the left top. Although onscreen keys does look very bad which most people are going to hate only.
Lumia Cyan update for Lumia 1020 Australia CV Available!
Now that's interesting
Nice to see new phones + next update is coming windows OS is awesome.
What happens if they get to the letter Z do they restart at A?
I doubt Windows Phone will be around by then if market share doesn't improve significantly. As they stand, things aren't great and aren't getting better very fast...
Blame the model based carrier exclusivity on the U.S. Extremely hard to upgrade one's WP without changing carriers. Lumia phones in the U.S. have limited radio frequency for that particular carrier only. Not consumer friendly!
What can be the expected price in India??
Are you crazy? It's just a leak. They are not even for real, for now. But it will cost probably around 18-20k as L720 was also priced around that mark.
I'm going to very sad if the lack of hints of a 1020 update coming continues.
This phone looks gorgeous
Still waiting for 830 specs to leak.
the next one may be "EGYPTION BROWN" i guess, in the alphabetical order :P
Debian Red sounds terrifying...
@evleaks wasn't a criminal, he was paid by companies, leaks are hype.... Not he's gone, well leaks are BY WPCENTRAL XD
On screen buttons NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please!!!! ¬¬ well... I hope it has compass and sensors at least or I will buy the 720...
This is not the sucessor of 720, is the sucessor of 620...
Am awaiting for this one only
Hope this has more than 512mb ram - otherwise I'm intrigued...
Now derbian red? Hmmm Microsoft . We are still waiting for the lumia cyan
Lumia Denim will be its name...
Wtf ?? How did you know ?
He doesn't know; he's being mildly humorous...
I hope the 830 has snapdragon 600 with 1.6 quad core with 1.5 ram + 4.5 inch or 4.7 inch with 1.3 ffc or higher with 720p resolution , because I liked it's design !!!
Leaked 830 photos hint that it will share 930's design.
Did you guys notice "Glance pinboard apps agent"? Can you pin apps to glance screen???? or may be notifications board on the glance screen..... speculations are fun
What is that ?
It's part of the framework that enables glance (on supported devices) it's part of the firmware
The agent was added after glance updated to display custom text or detailed notification in the glance screen. It should be there on your phone as well.
Hopefully we'll get a Lumia 820 successor that's not botched up and ripped apart like the 620's successor that 630/635 is really missing some features
Im still waiting on cyan..
IKR!
Please have a good camera and come to T-Mobile priced >=$200.
299$ I guess , and the 830 350$ I hope so
I hope your wrong. I'm not saying those prices aren't reasonable, but they certainly wouldn't help MS complete against budget and midrange Android phones. I love windows phone, but I see the only way MS can win is to undercut prices, even if they are offering better hardware.
Yeah you're right
T-mobile should offer more then White for the 730 if they agree to pick it up. T-Mobile this time around better not limit this phone like the 925 with only 16GB storage.
Ugly design , soapdish like. Even worst no-name chinese phone looks better.
I disagree wholeheartedly but each to their own, of course.
I agree +920.
So no daffodils then lol
And does that mean it'll come after update 2 ? Or after preview for it ? I don't know , I'm gonna wait for 830
On screen keys. NOOOOOO!
Why?
I quite like them...
I know... awful... for cheap phones
Hate those on-screen buttons... Hope Microsoft give it 1GB ram instead of mines 720 wich only has 512mb :c
Yup, 1 gig at least, 720p res, under 4,7" screen size. Not much to ask? Actually bigger battery will be appreciated.
Yes, 1 GB RAM. Model separate should base on SoC and screen resolution, not RAM.
But 720 looks sooo good than this...
Yes 720 is so sexg than this
If this phone has 1gigs of ram with exp memory with at least 12mp of ziss lense, i will be the first one to pre book it!
Don't forget an HD screen!
Book 830
Plot twist:Both are ridiculous priced compared to the hardware you get No proximity sensor,No glance screen,On screen keys.
Looks like another phone without a physical camera button and onscreen keys. Hopefully both features are retained on higher end devices, not a fan of these budget cuts.
Yes, those will be high end only features
I think it's come with pure view camera
I don't believe so. It's only written 'zeiss' on the back, like the current 720.
Pureview is Software enhancements for having superior Low light shot performance than Non-Pureview wp's.L 730 & L830 both have Carl zeiss lens & Pureview technology. :)
Stop this firmware updates!! These are useless for old Lumias and only serves to make the OSes updates take longer to be released. :/
How do you mean useless? Do you know what firmware is?
One of those situations where you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. Some people just don't get it.
Waiting...................
Yes finally L730 leak pics... I m expecting it at the eve of festive season in India to get launched..
Yay, another non flagship...
This green is really starting to grow on me.
I didn't think I would like it as much as Cyan, but the green is pretty amazing inc you have it in hand. It like glows.
At some point the older phones may no longer get these newer Firmwares, just the OS updates. All depends how it's managed internally of course, but once the firmware is stable proving OS only updates (like DP) on them is the cheaper way forward. Newer hardware will get newer firmware until that stabilizes.
To date Nokia have still been enabling things like Bluetooth 4 LE which will require firmware (Cyan), but once that's all stable I can see them leaving 2 year old phones alone at the lowest level.
I still don't understand why MSFT cant update phone firmware via preview for developers. Previously the O/S and Firmware were delivered by two different companies. Now they should update the firmware via preview for developers. I though that was what Joe was saying...
Onscreen buttons? No thanks. Looks like I'll be upgrading from a 720 to an 830, then.
On screen buttons are rather nice.
They're not that bad - my mother has them on her Lumia 630 - but they're no substitute for the real thing plus a camera button.
If this device gets at least 1GB of RAM and a price to compete with the Moto G then it would actually be a great!
Price near Moto G? If it goes with the pricing of 720, it will surely be some 50-60$ costlier than Moto G.
It doesn't have to be cheaper, but a price near it would be competitive. I mean the Moto G with LTE goes for $219 so a similarly spec'd device shouldn't have a price too far off. But then again it's Nokia branded so it'll probably go for $300+.
But isn't the moto g sold at a loss?
Really? It has a secondary camera better than moto g's primary one.
Lol
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