Microsoft confirms plan to rebuild Edge browser using Chromium on Windows 10

Microsoft today confirmed plans to rebuild its Edge browser using Chromium, in a move designed to improve web performance and app availability across platforms. Windows Central reported earlier about the shift in strategy and now it is official.

Rebuilding a web browser from the ground up is no small feat, but Microsoft says it is committed to providing the best web browsing experience on Windows. A developer preview of this new version of Edge should be ready in the coming months, which will provide us with our first look at Microsoft's new browser. Those who are interested in the Edge preview version can sign up here to be notified.

Microsoft is not just slipping the Blink rendering engine of Chromium into the existing app on Windows 10; it is building the entire browser again using Chromium. It's doing this for two reasons, the first of which is that it allows the company to bring the app to older versions of Windows such as Windows 7, Windows 8, and even Mac. Second, it will enable the app to be updated independently from the OS, which is something Insiders have been calling for since Edge's inception in 2015.

Microsoft Edge and Chromium: Your questions, answered

This also means that many of Edge's existing features will have to be rebuilt for the new version, which Microsoft says it is committed to doing. However, not all features may make the cut, as the company is looking into which features make sense for its new web browser. However, we believe that everything that makes Edge unique, such as its focus on inking, providing an excellent reading and PDF experience, will still be there in the new Edge.

It will still be called Edge

Microsoft Edge logo in Windows search

Microsoft Edge logo in Windows search (Image credit: Windows Central)

Microsoft is sticking with the Edge branding with its new browser, and most users will notice very little change when this new version of Edge is ready to replace the existing version as the default browser on Windows 10. It's likely we'll see the UI change a bit, some old features get removed, and some new features show up, but the number one benefit for moving to Chromium is that web pages will render better using Chromium's Blink rendering engine.

Microsoft is going to start partaking much more in the development of Chromium, as Chromium is an open-source project. Up until now, Google has been the only major player contributing code to the Chromium project, but now Microsoft is in the game and is ready to commit code to improve Chromium. For example, Microsoft knows that Chrome isn't as good as the current Edge at touch scrolling, so it's going to work on improving that experience in Chromium so that the new Edge doesn't miss out on that smooth scrolling experience.

Microsoft's Corporate Vice President of Windows, Joe Belfiore, said the following:

Ultimately, we want to make the web-experience better for many different audiences. People using Microsoft Edge (and potentially other browsers) will experience improved compatibility with all websites, while getting the best possible battery life and hardware integration on all kinds of Windows devices.Web developers will have a less-fragmented web-platform to test their sites against, ensuring that there are fewer problems and increased satisfaction for users of their sites; and because we'll continue to provide the Microsoft Edge service-driven understanding of legacy IE-only sites, Corporate IT will have improved compatibility for both old and new web apps in the browser that comes with Windows.

It's no longer a UWP app

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Cloudwallpaper Dark (Image credit: Windows Central)

To fans, the biggest news might come from the fact that the new Chromium version of Edge won't be a Universal Windows Platform (UWP) app. Microsoft tells us it's a standard Win32 desktop app, and we're hoping that will tap into Fluent Design APIs for things like Acrylic and Reveal effects throughout its UI. There's a reason Microsoft didn't opt to go with UWP, and it's because Microsoft is prioritizing bringing Edge to other platforms over making it exclusive to Windows 10.

Building Edge as a Win32 program allows Microsoft to also bring it to Windows 7 and Windows 8, which opens up a vast new market for potential Edge users. Right now, on desktops Edge is limited to Windows 10, which is on around half of all Windows PCs. Bringing it to Windows 7 essentially puts it on the other 50 percent, making it available to about 500 million more users.

Microsoft wants Edge to be taken seriously, and bringing it to new platforms in addition to rebuilding it using a technology most people love, should help shift its reputation. Of course, the new Edge will still tie into your Microsoft account and sync your passwords, bookmarks, and other data across devices.

A massive shift for Edge

While Google started Chromium, Microsoft is free to take Chromium and "make it their own." Google forks its own version of Chromium and adds all the Google-ly services and functions into it. Microsoft is essentially going to do the same using its own services and functions.

This is a massive shift for Edge and Windows 10, and one that's going to divide fans and developers for months to come. However, once the new version of Edge is ready, I think most people will be happy with this change. It means web pages will render better, Edge will be updated with new features and changes much faster, and Microsoft can bring Edge to the other half of Windows users.

There's still lots that Microsoft needs to work out with the new version of Edge, and I'm sure we'll be hearing about those plans in the near future. What are your thoughts on the news? Let us know in the comments.

Zac Bowden
Senior Editor

Zac Bowden is a Senior Editor at Windows Central. Bringing you exclusive coverage into the world of Windows on PCs, tablets, phones, and more. Also an avid collector of rare Microsoft prototype devices! Keep in touch on Twitter: @zacbowden.

  • Given their constant bashing of Win32, I can't wait to hear Zac and Dan pontificate on this decision and basically do a 180.
  • Win32 is old and fat, and I wish the new Edge was going to be UWP. But it's not. Not much I can do about that. I'm not going to stop using Edge though, because Edge is great for me, and switching to Chromium will only make it better.
  • It may be quite old but I don't know about fat, then again I'm an old fat guy that did Win32 stuff for years. :-) Zac, do you know why they chose Chromium over WebKit? WebKit is open, runs on a lot of different platforms and is the basis of Chromium (Blink.) Have you heard a technical reason for the choice?
  • Maybe Edge will be better for it. But the message sent to their developer community is not exactly sunshine and roses...
  • How do you think this will make Edge better? This just makes it more resource-hungry, benefits Google, and rips its soul out of Edge. And yeah, UWP is dead now too... F*ck Microsoft...
  • @Random DS: To be fair to Microsoft, Edge in its current position wasn't doing anything significant to change the situation. Its presence was scarcely felt. Hence the redirection...
  • It has 5% on desktop/laptop, which is for example more than Safari or Opera. And you don't see Apple rewriting Safari from scratch, using an older app model, and the chromium engine...
  • I wouldn't be so quick to judge, although there's definitely risk. Remember Microsoft is likely going to make some heavy changes to Chromium, like almost certainly getting rid of V8 and other bloat. Also, Edge will still be on the Microsoft Store, even though it's not UWP.
  • Lol, Random... I've already got myself a bad ass Android device. Move on. You want be happier.
  • It's not that at all. \I have an iPhone X now, because I had to jump ship from W10M finally. But I still have all my PCs, and my Xbox One X, and UWP apps do still matter for me because of that. Win32 is fat, old, slow and ugly, compared to UWP, and it can't run on Xbox. Or do you know any "bad ass android device" that can replace my desktop, convertible laptop, and Xbox, and is at least as good as what I have now? 😁
  • Although I agree I think Uwp can't use cromium and that is the issue. I bet Uwp and sets has to be reworked for that.
  • I think they will keep 2 versions of edge. One that can be downloaded in form of .exe and another from the store like some desktop apps(blender, affinity suite, photoshop elements, etc.) for smoother update performance on windows 10. If they don't post a edge in store then they are essentially discouraging dev from posting their desktop ports to store.
  • I just want a good browser and never really lamented any browser being Win32. I see having an ARM64 version of Chromium much more interesting and worthy of discussion, tbh.
  • Well, can this Chromium version be made into a ARM version? Where does that sit? And, how does Edge on Android work? What engine does it run on?
  • Edge uses Blink on Android.
  • Of course. Microsoft just committed code to it like last week. Chromium is what's behind Edge on Android and that's ARM too. Getting ARM64 for Windows support into Chromium is one of their first contributions to the Chromium Project. From there, Brave, Chrome, etc. could also use if it they wish.
  • I have a feeling that is the motivation behind the switch to Blink from EdgeHTML, ARM64 support.
  • So how would this be distributed to Windows users? Through the store as an app? Could it work on Windows 10 Mobile?
  • That's a great question. Surely MS will make it available via the Store. And if it's a Win32 app, does this mean the Store is going to support Win32 apps? If MS is able to distribute Win32 apps via the store but not other developers, there's going to be an uproar. Does anyone else have info on this?
  • Windows Store already supports Win32 apps via Project Centennial. Kodi, iTunes, Amazon Music, Alexa are classic examples.
  • It is a win for the long game a believe. The game where Microsoft is doing away with Windows, running everything on Azure and streaming it to light weight browser based OS:es on devices most probably build on an ARM platform. Those devices will probably have some kind of Chromium only on them. No money in manufacturing the devices, all in hosting the processing capacity in the cloud and handling the streaming. Maybe not tomorrow or in five years but most probably within ten years.
  • Maybe not the browser specifically but you frequently have a derisive tone, specifically on the podcast, about Win32. And now MS is for all intents and purposes doubling down on it by rewriting probably the most used PC app. Just curious to hear how you guys wade through the irony...
  • I don't see irony. I see pragmatic and it's still clear that Microsoft is moving away from "classic" Windows. WCOS, Windows Lite (which may be connected to Chromium OS), UWP, Centennial, ARM64 are all technology meant to get us away from legacy desktop to something newer and more mobile. Just because they're using Chromium doesn't mean they can't make a pure ARM version later - after all, Chrome on Android exits. Edge on Android exists. Both use Blink. Neither are Win32. Microsoft is going to make a version for macOS too - also not Win32. This is about a rendering engine, not Win32. They're not using UWP here so they can go to Windows 7 and Windows 8 for their enterprise customers. Again, that's pragmatic. UWP doesn't work on Windows 7, what? Plans change. Once Microsoft moved away from an internally coherent ecosystem (phone, PC, xbox) to one across systems (macOS, iOS, Android, Windows) UWP suddenly becomes less of a focus. That seems obvious.
  • A cogent retort. But are enterprises who use Windows 7 & 8 clamoring for Edge? Is there a large percentage telling MS they want/need Edge but can't/won't go to Windows 10? Why? Seems like most would stay with whatever they currently use unless MS has something ultra-compelling up their sleeve. If not, then the Win32 part looks like another MS solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
  • Uwp must be a focus for wcos
  • I think the switch to Win32 is far more telling about the state of UWP than you want to admit. Win32 is still a proprietary API, and I don't see how that helps porting to other platforms like the Mac vs using tools like Xamarin for UWP apps. As for supporting older versions of Windows, Windows 7 is by far the bulk of the ~50% of the PC market not running Windows 10. Windows 7 extended support ends in January 2020, just over a year from now. Given how software development tends to go when rewriting from scratch (not just for Microsoft, but across the industry in general), Windows 7 may already be out of support by the time a fully-functional release of Win32 Edge.
  • Nobody will suddenly start using Edge because it's chromium-based now... So this doesn't make sense at all. People are using Chrome because it's Chrome, and because it's google, and not because of the engine. So what should we do with this magical ARM64 version of chromium? Who cares about that? And does basically killing UWP as a whole worth it? I don't think so...
  • You are right, this will not start up a big user influx but...
    1) Microsoft will safe some developer resources by it that they can use on other projects
    2) Creating an ARM64 version of chromium will make it simpler for other browsers using chromium to create versions for WoA and that is win for Microsoft even if not Chrome follows and if Chrome follows that is a large win.
    To bad that they had to offer UWP. No office and no browser from Microsoft as UWP makes the platform kind of meaningless. At least there is Solitaire ;-)
  • Wrong. Hundreds of thousands of IT shops have standardized on Chrome only because most of the custom web-based software they run is written and tested for a Chromium based browser. Now that the browser that comes with the OS will consistently render these web pages in exactly the same way... and perhaps even faster... and without all the Google bloat to contend with... there is every reason in the world for IT shops to stick with it rather than Chrome. Same thing with ppl who purchase a new laptop with Windows pre-installed. As long as the default browser renders web pages consistently and cleanly that is good enough for many users.
  • "and without all the Google bloat to contend with." Yeah, only to have Microsoft insert its own bloat. People use Chrome because the UX is better. I'm ready to concede that Chrome and Edge are similar enough under the hood to allow most websites to function at a level that casual users wouldn't notice a difference. To me that makes not one iota of difference. The Chrome and Chromium UX is so much superior to the Edge experience. If all they do is recreate the current Edge UX but with Blink as the rendering engine Edge will remain irrelevant. Edge continues to bleed users because of the UX, not the rendering engine. The ONLY way Edge can succeed is if Microsoft outmaneuvers Google. Being 'as good as' Chrome is not enough. The one place they can one up Google is privacy but that's a big ask for a company that has as little credibility in that arena as Google. They would have to commit to cut their privacy intrusions AND they would have to be fully transparent. They are far away from both. They make it tough to opt out and their privacy disclosures are as clear as mud. They'd also have to stop the incessant advertising in Windows which directly implicates privacy violations. If they were to embrace Apple CEO Tim Cook's argument that privacy is a basic human right they'd gain a lot of good will, free publicity, and, perhaps most importantly, credibility in the privacy community. Of course, that would affect how they monetize Windows as a SaaS. Would the increased trust offset the lost advertising and other privacy violating income?
  • It would not be a necessary comment if it was Uwp as that tech is processor agnostic. Chromium might be 100% chosen for the extensive extensions available.
  • Chromium supports android apps right? Also with edge out of the store....where does that leave Andromeda?
  • I think this is a fantastic move. Hoping my bookmark / reading list sync issues are resolved finally!
  • Things I want to remain : PDF reader , syncing between devices , timeline
    things I want gone : tab preview and set aside tabs
    I don't care about inking
  • set aside tabs rock! so useful.
  • And just like that UWP is dead.
  • I can't honestly admit when it was ever alive🤔
  • UWP was great in concept. Terrible in execution. I wanted to like it, but after trying to create an app in it, I lost hope. Way too difficult to get anything done.
  • UWP is not dead. But they can't install this new browser on Windows 7, 8, 8.1, if it's only available in UWP. And yes there's still hold outs on those versions. For the life of me can't figure out why, but hey... God is great... beer is good... and ppl are crazy... right?
  • But Windows 7 goes out of extended support in just over a year (Jan 2020), joining the ranks of Windows XP and Vista. Why go to effort to support a version of Windows that will be "dead" in a year? Heck, it may not even be ready until Windows 7 is out of support. Windows 8.1 is supported until Jan 2023, so that makes a little more sense, but not by much since Win 8.1 is a small slice of the PC market.
  • I think getting making this available to as many folks as possible is a good thing. They’ll still ship it on Windows 10 and... Windows 10 S. So no loss there. Greater availability is a good thing though. Trying to force a UWP only methodology... and
    just telling folks to upgrade... wasn’t working. Being more open is working for Microsoft.
  • I'm not personally against what they're saying they're planning to do, but I think the stated reasons for using Win32 are different from the actual, internal reasons. Unless MS is planning to give Windows 7 a reprieve and extend its support date, in a year and a month, Windows 7 isn't going to be a relevant market anymore; Microsoft would be crazy to support Edge on a version of Windows that they're not providing security updates for. Those existing Windows 7 PCs are not going to be moving to Windows 8.1 at this point. Inevitably, they'll mostly be moving on to Windows 10 over the next year; otherwise they'll be like anyone stuck on Windows XP. But I think you hit the nail on the head regarding forcing everyone to a UWP only methodology. It seems obvious to me that Microsoft sees Win32 as a better way to achieve their goals for edge on Windows 10 vs UWP for whatever reason (API limitations, dev tool issues, interface compatibility, whatever), and that's the real reason for the change. The problem here is that if that's the case, it doesn't bode well for UWP as a platform in general.
  • "otherwise they'll be like anyone stuck on Windows XP." I beg to differ. The difference between Windows 7 and XP is huge. The difference between Windows 10 and 7 is minimal. There was a compelling argument to upgrade to Windows 7 when XP was discontinued. Many software packages had abandoned XP. The hardware running early installs of XP was really, really slow. Its security model was weak. By comparison, much of the hardware running Windows 7 is still functional for casual or light weight professional use. The security model is a lot stronger. And, because of the mistakes of UWP and of Windows 8 before it, Windows 7 still has a compelling interface. Microsoft is going to have a harder time shutting down Windows 7 than it did XP because Windows 7 still has very real advantages over Windows 10 (the constant changes aren't a good thing for many users).
  • Denial ain't just a river in Egypt....
  • I don't care whether it is UWP or Win32. I just want a great browser.
  • Yet one more thing making people lose confidence in Microsoft.
  • Ok, I'm going to say it. Nadella is Google's B,I,T,C,H he's only trying people to loose interest in Microsoft stuff. Either he closes the projects or make them less attractive. I still can't believe he said that there was no need for a third mobile platform... their own. Now they say it's better to build a new browser based upon the competition instead of building something that works and does things the people want. They just keep saying it's not easy, but hey they have control over the OS so why the excuses... I really think Nadella and some of the high staff are in Google's payroll.
  • Do you believe men landed on the moon? How about Barack's birth certificate... fake right? Global warming... a hoax? The CIA created aids? If Nadella is a Google plant he has a funny way of showing it for the last several decades of loyal service to Microsoft... and as CEO... by let's see... returning the company to fundamentals instead of chasing ridiculous pipe dreams... giving a good old fashioned spanking to Amazon (and Google) in the cloud wars... throwing his company's full weight and purse strings behind xBox, Game pass, and cloud game streaming... convincing millions of IT shops around the planet to purchase O365 subscriptions... unleashing Panos and company to woop Apple's hiney with quality Surface products that even Apple fanboy critics are forced to praise... selling massive contract loads of Holo Lens devices... and let's see... massively driving up their stock price the whole time... Need I go on?
  • So. What's the plan for Windows S now? Sticking with a dead and no longer developed browser? MS is hilarious.
  • Good point... Too many damn factors of Windows anyways. MS has lost it.
  • This has nothing to do with Windows S. They can still ship a native browser (Edge/Blink) with Windows 10 S. Windows 10 S has native Win32 binaries and libraries, always had.
  • So provided they put it in the app store s can run it. Fair enough. On reflection my initial comment was silly. Of course s runs win32, otherwise it wouldn't run most of the os or any of office.
  • Windows 10 S is dead. You just won't admit it now. Just wait for a year or so. All my predictions have been correct so far.
  • No one knows who you are or what your predictions have been.
  • I can predict the earth will probably be dead/destroyed at some point in the future and I'd be right because nothing lasts forever.
  • AS LONG AS THEY DON'T REBRAND IT AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN... I don't see any problem with this... Yeah, it definitely highlights yet another failure of infinites for Microsoft, but the bigger picture here is that Edge will just appear to work better, and be more widely available, for the average consumer.... It still boggles my mind that a company as huge as Ms doesn't have any market pull to make anything consumer friendly stick...... Could be because they didn't have the balls, passion, persistence, drive, or marketing skills to make their only hope (WP) work... Smdh. This seems like 1 technical step forward, and 2 perception steps back, for Ms. Without a viable mobile device that runs full Windows, and has Android apps, Ms is dead to the consumer market, and will very soon have ZERO fans. And, what ever happened to all this PWA hype? Where is Ms? 🤔 🙄 Talk, failures, and constant reboots, are cheap, Ms.
  • When was the last time you saw a commercial for MS that was for anything other than the Xbox? The only other things they advertise are feel good nonsense. Nothing for any feature of Windows, whether it be Cortana (Dead), Edge (Dead), Your Phone (Is that still happening), Skype, whatever. Consumers haven't heard of what they are doing, and their consumer plays die on the vine.
  • "the bigger picture here is that Edge will just appear to work better, " That's not what holds Edge back anymore. Sure, Edge's really bad early years took a toll (#1) but now there are two more factors working against it:
    1. The stench of failure;
    2. Chrome simply provides a better UX; and,
    3. Microsoft has a longer bad track record of privacy violations than even Facebook (recently not as bad but MS has been around a lot longer and did fork over a lot of money in law suits in the early 2000's and many of us have not forgotten or forgiven that behavior... That happened under Bill Gates' watch). Internet Explorer got decent by the end of its life but it was tainted by a dismal track record and an abysmal interface. I suspect the same two things apply to Edge. If you want people to switch from Chrome you can't just be a Chrome clone. You need to provide a compelling story. In Microsoft's case I see one story that would give it a leg up over Google, and, if properly executed, even Apple. Privacy. Google and Microsoft both have poor track records and reputations for privacy invasions. What if Microsoft were to adopt Apple CEO Tim Cook's argument that privacy should be a human right? And, act on it by transparently allowing users to disable ALL non essential privacy violations in Windows without compromising the ability of Windows to function (e.g. Cortana forces you to hand over data if you want to use it)? And not violate the user's trust by enabling them by stealth. Then they build Edge Blink so that it never phones home to Microsoft. And, allow users to choose their default search engine. And, ensure that Edge NEVER phones home (I said that twice, didn't I ;). Now, that would change the conversation and might be enough to dislodge that infernal advertising company from its perch at the top of the search engine heap.
  • What's troubling to me is that Microsoft seems to really be abandoning UWP. I get that it's great to have the new Edge run on older platforms, but they are older platforms after all, and you can't sacrifice the future to support the past.
    If you want to support them, build for both. Now, I know it might be a huge undertaking and everything, but Microsoft is the biggest company in the world, so it doesn't get a pass anymore. At some point they need to have backbone and support their own technologies, or nobody else will.
    How many people are there on Windows 7, and 8 that haven't yet made a choice about their favorite browser and are willing to try this? Is it worth catering to them instead of the new users with new PCs? And most importantly, how does this decision move technology forward? Win32 apps aren't even great in tablet mode, for example.
  • Win32 apps can be as great in tablet mode as the developer wants them to be, there is just much more work to do for that than with UWP.
  • I would hope they keep both around, at least then both end users and developers have a choice. It would also be of benefit to Microsoft when they release their Chrome OS competitor.
  • As a developer that has tried to embrace UWP, good riddance if it goes away. All of the compromises they've made to make it 'universal' have left us with something that is difficult to work with.
  • Out of curiosity, what made it so difficult for you? I didn't find it to be too bad.
  • Hope they keep the Tabs aside feature since its awesome :D
  • Yeah, I use that all the time. It's like being lazy (keeping dozens of tabs open) in an ironically organized way. Love it/hate my worst habits lol...
  • Acknowledging that it will be a Win32 app, combined with the abandonment of Office UWP apps makes me feel like Microsoft is giving up on it's long term goal of getting everything to shift to UWP. This seems to run contrary to their goal of moving towards Windows Core OS. Maybe they'll release it in the store as a UWP containerized version of the Win32 app?
  • I'd definitely assume it will be in the Store, but even so it will still be a Win32 app.
  • I get u need win32 for old versions of Windows but Uwp needs edgehtml and being involved in coding chromium means they can work towards edge html functioning like it in Uwp while using chromium elseware maybe? I feel like we are missing a crutial part of the info. Like "hey its on win10 already so this is for everywhere else." Or something like that. An example would be win7 does not need pen support or touch but win 8 would benefit from touch.
  • This is an odd move. My issues with Edge have had essentially nothing to do with page rendering -- it's been all about user interface -- weird usability stuff. I don't think switching out the rendering engine will do anything to gain marketshare. Seems like a lot of work to update/develop a browser that ultimately probably won't make any noticeable difference.
  • This exactly what i feel. The only reason for common people abandoning edge is it default search engine and no support from Google(YouTube don't work well in edge). And for advanced user its little customizability, poor UI and most important lack of extensions is the reason. Almost nothing which is hated is going to change with change of engine if it does not improve more important things.
  • This change may improve page rendering, but Microsoft will have to work really hard on its UI. Only it's UI will attract users.
  • Apparently the future really is Web Apps. Wow. How can any developer justify writing a native UWP App now after Microsoft themselves have clearly abandoned it (Skype, MS Teams, Office Mobile)? End of an era I guess. I had better get my TypeScript skills back up to snuff.
  • it changed when Microsoft went away form UWP for itself and started looking at how to put its apps/services everywhere on every system it could. That's a different world one where Electron and JS are way more important. Luckily Microsoft bought GitHub, who runs Electron. Electron runs on Chromium. That's an interesting combo if you're into software development and work with Microsoft dev tools.
  • Electron is almost exactly the opposite of what I hoped for the future. Fast and fluid user interfaces are what Microsoft promised with WP8 and Windows 8. I completely agree that Electron applications are functional, and wonderfully cross-platform. But as a daily user of a few of them, they are anything but inspiring just like many of the older versions of Microsoft products. They're just returning to their roots.
  • If this is such a fantastic decision by Microsoft, why the h*ll didn't they go this way with Edge from the beginning?!?!?
  • There's real benefit from doing a browser yourself and not having to check-in code in an open source project. There's also a benefit building a browser optimized for your OS without relying on others. It didn't work out. Change course.
  • Well, given UWP is still crap, no wonder.
  • Agree... utter garbage. Now they need to do exactly the same thing with UWP game filth and stop tying potentially awesome games (like Gears of War 4) to the sucky UWP trash bucket.
  • "However, not all features may make the cut, as the company is looking into which features make sense for its new web browser."
    ==> I know, in good tradition every feature that peope actually use will be cut and replaced by half-baked features that nobody asked for. I've seen this move too many times now.
  • Yup, spot on. I'm guessing a right-click "back" context menu option that every other major browser has, and has had for years, won't make the cut. But they'll find a way to include the Add Notes toolbar that while cool, is probably used by very few people.
  • Then what is going to happen to edge on Windows 10 S and it's future of uwp and core is built entirely on uwp apps
  • I don't see Office 2019 released as UWP. Microsoft has given up on UWP.
  • You realize Office Win32 runs on Windows 10 S, right? Windows 10 S is Win32 still. This has little to do with UWP/Windows 10 S. UWP is any app that can go to the Store and has a layer for OS interaction e.g. Centennial apps are UWP too.
  • Well, that's just great. Another one bites the dust. The online world is moving one step closer to a monoculture in which most of the internet's population will view the web through the lens of a single browser engine (KHTML) and its derivatives. In biological systems, monocultural crops are more vulnerable to disease and total failure. Likewise, the internet according to a single browser engine is not a great move for an open network that is supposed to be about a diversity and competition of ideas.
  • Mozilla is struggling for that diversity. But even it will have to suffer because it will be easier to ignore it.
  • If it will be win 32, then what will happen to edge on Windows 10 S? And it's future of UWP apps and core os which will use only UWP apps?
    If Microsoft itself starts using win32, how will it encourage UWP( which is dying itself)?
  • Edge on Windows 10S is win32/UWP? Windows 10 S runs tons of Win32 apps. Not sure what you are going on about. Every Centennial app in the Store is by definition Win32.
  • It does feel like a questionable decision. Why begin new development for OSes that will be a distant memory in a few years? Seems like a panicky move.
  • Tremendooo smart move! Has the potential in closing the app gap fast.
  • It does seem a bit like yet another surrender. That said, YouTube works better in Edge on Android than the native YouTube app itself, so that may bode well for the future. After 15 years using Opera I switched to Edge and, apart from Google sites, was fine with it. But I'm a very light user, not using extensions etc so I have low expectations 🤗
  • I rather use firefox not edge.
  • Let's all hope it turns out well 🤞
  • I'm disappointed that Edge is now another Chromium browser. I just hope that Mozilla won't abandon Gecko and make Firefox another Chromium browser.
  • Mozilla left Gecko for Quantum in 2017. Latest versions have been fast and run smooth. I'll take Firefox any day over Chrome.
  • Hi Dan Do you know if the new browser will continue to support 1080p streaming, the same as Edge did?
  • Feels like a step backwards for the browser. Oh well, maybe they can use this as an opportunity to rename Edge to the much cooler name it was known as during early development: Spartan.
  • "Second, it will enable the app to be updated independently from the OS" Something they should have done since day one. So short-sighted.
  • Maybe Micro$lop is actually going to do their first thing right since Windoze OS X was vomited onto the public in July of 2015. I'll take a wait and see approach and remain skeptical, but maybe they are finally getting a clue that we hate their worthless UWP feces. Edge absolutely sucks as is, but I am an avid Chrome fan. Maybe it will suck less and at least be tolerable.
  • Microsoft needs to ditch their third world execs across the board. They are killing the company and handing it over to google bit by bit. Who kills off their mobile OS in this day and age??? Suicidal! Now their browser??? Having a business model based on rental software to run on someone else's OS while that same OS developer is developing 'free' products aimed at being an alternative to your rental software... Completely insane. Why haven't these morons been driven out of their jobs with pitchforks and torches??? I do not use google data mining products.
  • That's a very interesting set of questions. Why indeed, they aren't dumb, something more is going on. Did Google actually buy them out and is slowly killing of the company or something?
  • Why would I want to switch to a browser that doesn't protect me from being assaulted with ads at every turn?
  • So, thinking about this a bit - what happens to Edge on Xbox? Xbox One doesn't currently run Win32 apps, so are they going to create a special UWP version of Edge just for Xbox? Or make Xbox run (a potentially limited subset of) Win32 apps?
  • The only time I switch from edge to other browsers on pc is when edge stops working... virus etc..
  • They are just over counting chrome market share on pc.... by confusing mobile phone web data from android with pc web browsers... personally I dislike chrome because they removed the title bar drag bar... making it hard to resize and read multiple windows on screen at the same time... it s too annoying to Dance around the tabs in the wrong location...
  • If I was to condense all my thoughts and emotions about this it would be expressed with one motion.
    Funny I was at a lunch yesterday, listening to a table of people ' not in IT or tech based employment' all complaining about Chrome and why they'd uninstalled it altogether because of critical bugs they were experiencing. I was one of them. My favourite browser these days IS Edge ( with firefox as a backup). If MS can make new Edge work better than Chrome , which is an overhyped pile of doodoo, then, fine. I do wish MS could make a decision they can stick with though.... FacePalm
  • Why bother making it Win32 to support Windows 7 when Windows 7 dies in only 12 months. Everyone is going to need to upgrade by 2020 anyways. Obviously there will be stragglers like XP had, but most folks, especially business users, will be long upgraded to 10 and support UWP. I like the idea of separating it from the OS update cycle but can't it still be a UWP and do that?
  • The only issue I have with this switch is that it's no longer a UWP app which is something I really care about. I really believe that UWP is the future of Windows, and if Microsoft doesn't embrace it early in the game, I don't know when they will.
  • UWP (and eventually Microsoft itself) actually died the day the third-world execs killed the Mobile OS.