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Windows Phone 8.1 Update 2 confirmed for select existing smartphones

In order to be able to enjoy Windows Phone 8.1 Update 2 you need to be rocking either the Lumia 640 or the Lumia 640 XL as these are the only Windows Phones with access to that particular release. Microsoft today shared details on Update 2 during a Q&A session at the UK launch of these two smartphones, stating that the update will come to select devices in certain markets.

The company did note that both the Lumia 735 and Lumia 830 would receive Update 2. It's not known when or where the update will be rolling out, not to mention which handsets will receive that version of Windows Phone 8.1. All we know is the update is planned for some Lumia 735 and Lumia 830 handsets.

The remote kill-switch laws were highlighted in the response during the session, which signifies the possibility that Windows Phones in the US will receive Update 2. Though again, it's not known as to which networks would roll out the update or if any Windows Phones aside from the Lumia 735, 830 and 640 would receive Update 2.

We'll hopefully have more details in the near future.

Rich Edmonds is a word conjurer at Windows Central, covering everything related to Windows, gaming, and hardware. He's been involved in technology for more than a decade and knows a thing or two about the magic inside a device chassis. You can follow him over on Twitter at @RichEdmonds.

293 Comments
  • And of course not the 930...
  • Because 930 gets the full Windows 10 experience. It's not that hard to see the pattern, is it?
  • huh? that makes no sense... the 735 and 830 (and all other phones on 8.1) will also get Windows 10...
  • Also I wouldn't be too worried about 81-update 2 since Joe Belfiore also said the Lumia 520 will get Windows 10 (Mobile) so that means all phones with 512MB of RAM or better will get Windows 10. Of course low end phones won't get all the features Windows 10 (Mobile) will give users with a high end device like the 930 I'm just hoping carriers will be aware that their customers are expecting to get Windows 10 on their devices as soon as it is launched, just like in the iPhone and iOS ecosystem.
  • Someone's dreaming.
  • No offense mate but do you know when Windows10 will come to 930? I am telling you that is for sure not this year. And no I dont want to use Insider program to have a buggy OS. So I think Update 2 would have been a better choice.
  • Windows 10 is coming late summer/early fall to all wp8.1 phones.. the lates possibility is early winter I'd say
  • citation needed there... Windows 10 will be released late summer... but there is no indication when updates will actually be released for EXISTING devices
  • This!!!!
  • can't you download it through the developer program once it is release? you have to wait for carrier approval for firmware, but the you can get around the carrier for the OS.
  • Or that Windows 10 for phones will be ready at the same time. MS has already confirmed Win10 for phones will be a different SKU.
  • At WinHEC Microsoft outlined Project Milkeyway, which is intended to speed up the release process so that all supported devices recieve Windows 10 within 4 - 6 weeks of being launched.
  • Microsoft said that all Windows Phone 8.1 devices will get Windows 10 in a maximum of six weeks after it is released. Sorry, I don't remember where I read it, probably in this site.
  • Oh c'mon are u that blind for God's sake? Have you forgotten how long it took for Icon to receive Denim? And now are you telling me with such confidence this bullshit story? I am pretty sure that the existent flagships like Icon/930/M8 will see Windows10 in 2016.
  • Did you miss the entire part of WinHEC called "Project Milkyway" where Microsoft will from now on do all of the OS testing (since the carriers are taking too long) and all the carriers have to do is make sure their apps work. The days of taking 6 months to update an OS are gone.
  • I would've gone with memory loss instead of blindness since you followed up with "have you forgotten...".
    I think we all agree that the official/unofficial way to get around carrier delays is Windows Insider/developer preview. If you choose to wait that's your call but I say 2015
  • And you believe in this? Some devices doesn't have Denim yet, almost 4 months after the realese...
  • I know it takes a while. But be grateful that you'll get it eventually. And not get stuck 4 versions behind like some lagdroids.
  • That's because project milkeyway is for windows 10! Not windows phone 8.1, and PM hasn't even been implemented yet
  • Nope. W10 is going to be launched in summer and the roll out will commence after that. So launch in September. Roll out starts in December and by the time all the existing phones get it - we are looking at next June. Yes, June 2016. No way are we going to see W10 on all phones before that. Especially on Lumia 930 and Icon.
  • Sorry mate. I think project milky way will mean release in September and rollout in October
  • That would be amazing to say the least, but you're clearly dead wrong unless you prove otherwise.
  • Cannot be completely wrong. Microsoft treats us as new wine needing vintaging. So we will be older for sure.
  • Of year 2016
  • 930? You mean the unloved, stepchild flagship i bought?
  • Tell me about it. My 925 isn't getting much love either, in fact, none of the flagships are. Microsoft better hurry up on that new flagship after windows 10 or else i have to jump to android. 
  • Yeah, like you'll get updates on Android /s
  • Better definition ever!
  • How on earth would you know this for certain?
  • just like every other windows phone 8.1 devices
  • The 930 is in a league of its own because of the processing power it has
  • ..its kinda sharing the seat with the 1520..
  • Or the 1520... :/
  • 1520 for gdr2
  • can u update the lumia 1520 to windows phone 8.1 update 2 ??
  • I wish Microsoft could Love 930 as the users but they didn't
  • Will anyone here talk about L830 as well, please ?
  • who needs that with win10 just around the corner? ;)
  • Hahahaha "just around the corner"
    Hahahaha
    Man, Windows 10 mobile will take almost 1 year from know to be deployed to everyone...
  • through carriers, yes. you can get it faster through the developer program. 
  • W10 is a new OS, not just a minor paintjob like 8.1. Firmware will be very important here to provide updated drivers, which is not provided with the Preview for Developers. Without new firmware, one can expect subpar camera, battery and possibly BT/Wifi performance. It is still very important that MS get this through the carriers as quickly as possible.
  • If your current phone has either Cyan or Denim firmware already installed, it will NOT require a firmware update to run Windows 10.  This is why Microsoft is providing the W10 Tech Preview, to test the phones to ensure this is the case.  So far, no phones seem to require a firmware update to run W10.  Lumia 930 and Icon are not getting the latest version of W10 Tech Preview because of a bug with device scaling, but not firmware problem.  Microsoft says they are working on this for the next W10 Tech Preview release. Another thing to remember is that W10 is NOT W8.1.  It is a whole new operating system designed to work on a multitude of devices.  It "adapts" itself to whatever device it is being installed on.  Therefore, it will download whatever drivers/software/etc. needed to operate correctly on that device during the installation process.  Carriers will have NO sayso in this update availability as it will be distributed directly from Microsoft.  The only thing the carriers need to worry about is getting their own apps to work on the phones and Microsoft is offering assistance to any carrier that requests it.
  • This "new OS" talk is rubbish. They clearly forked Windows Phone 8.1, not any of the W10 builds.
  • We can only hope for Win10 to reach us by the end of summer ... I especially had luck with devices that got update the last.
  • But dude for security reason we need to have that update ...a particular very important security update is that
  • the resale on WPs isn't very high. i don't think you have to worry about anyone trying to steal it. this security feature isn't that important.
  • Not everyone wants an android clone OS to replace the WP we actually chose from the start.
  • LOL. Shut up man
  • BOOM! You are correct!! I am certainly in the camp of not really looking forward to W10 from what I've seen so far.
  • Correct, I think it will be only some small firmware updates, due features are brought through win10
  • Seriously I was thinking the same.
    Just before the release of the TP I used to get excited for every WP update whether small or big. Since the installation of win 10 tp I'm just like ok...hmmm...another 8.1 update.. :p
  • Yes, particularly the kill switch feature. It might be in Windows 10 too, I believe blog italia mentioned. Despite this, select mobile companies provide their clients with such support I'm afraid, independently of phone OS capabilities.
  • That corner is 'coming soon' :P
  • Thanks a lot Microsoft!!!! After seeing all those ugly W10 Screenshots, I consider not to update. But Update 2 would be really great!
  • I dont agree with you about w10 is ugly
  • A lot of the UI elements are nice, but another lot of those are beyond ugly.
  • Same here. I don't want Windows 10, I want 8.1 Update 2.
  • Me too, low-end phone would be slow with a lot of enhancements that I don't really need.
  • No they wont. Windows 10, just like windows phone is designed to run on low end devices first, then it is put on high and devices. Just like we don't really have too much fuss running wp8.1 on a Lumia 520, we shouldn't have any fuss with windows 10 on a Lumia 520 either
  • I remember the time when WP8 is run smoothly and flawlessly on Lumia 620, now WP8.1 bring the action center etc, now we have a lot of "resuming..." screen, sometimes it show even when unlocking the screen.
    I doubt that with multi row shortcut, actionable notification, real time syncing and many new feature, that will run smoothly on low end device. Except they give us option to turn it on or off.
  • I agree with you about the piunts you mentioned. But perhaps they wont bring all those features to low end devices, because they said that lower end phones wont get all the features of the high end phones on Windows 10 because of hardware limitations (slower cpu, 512mb ram etc) so you're right, they might be slower id they had all the features, but MS said that they will have limited features, so not to destroy the awesome user experience
  • You should turn on kids' corner to end the resuming screens.
  • You guys are quite weird not wanting 10 with all its improvement. Smh
  • I don't know.. It kinda... uglyy
  • All what improvements? Improvements or changes? I want to see everything before I decide to install on my 1520.
  • Yeah I don't get that either.
  • The UI of current tp version might be inconsistent and ugly (seriously...?!) but the os is definitely promising...after installing the tp version I was actually cursing myself but later I couldn't switch back to 8.1...despite of instability (somewhat) the os is just amazing... U would get bored with your phone if you try win 10 and switch back to 8.1
  • THIS. There will be inconsistencies as MS tries to add features and all. UI polishing will be at the end, but expect them to update UI one step at a time. Duh
  • Agree with you
  • F you
  • Agree! Add the cursor-pointer tool to the keyboard of 8.1 GDR2, release it to Dev preview and I would likely be happy to forego W10 until getting a new phone with it pre-installed. As is, I'm just hoping W10 isn't as bad as the previews and leaked shots we've been seeing.
  • W10 is not ugly, its much better than wp8.1
  • I'm starting to question alot of the negative feedback about W10, I often wonder how much is android or IOS users just spreading fud.
  • I disagree. And so do many others. It IS ugly.
  • Opinions are like armpits, everybody has one. And mine is that from what I've seen of W10 for phones, it fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down
  • Yeah! W10 looks fugly but update 2 would be very welcome, particularly if they include NFC payments and Cortana improvements...
  • And 730?
  • 730 too dude...dont worry...when they mean the 735 its actually the 730 for the rest of the markets...glad that Microsoft just did away with this 5 at the end naming strategy for the lte versions
  • Thank god. I actually got nervous ;P
  • Same Question
  • If you are very excited and want something new to try then make sure you install win 10 tp tomorrow ( if you're ok with few freezes) ;)
  • Sure, my 830 that still doesn't have the full Denim.
  • Same for my 635.  Funny thing is I can put the Win 10 preview on it.
  • Strange huh? Microsoft my 635 is still waiting.
  • That's not microsofts problem. Its your stupid carriers problem
  • You're right that's my bad how could I forget about that.
  • Just so my previous comment isn't misread, I didn't mean to call you stupid, I meant to call your carrier stupid for not testing the update quickly enough
  • It's coo bro
  • This has been the biggest diasappointment with the 830 since it launched.
  • Yes, I want my Lumia Camera 5.0!
  • Hi. I already have lumia camera 5 on my L830. I just installed the latest firmware using the firmware of Malaysia L830. Just look for how to install new firmware online. It works.
  • *This... I bug ATT everyday on fb and twitter.. Even called them a couple times... My next step is walking into the store and demanding a refund for the fraudulent misleading sale of this phone.. Microsoft's hands aren't completely clean in all of this!
  • Are we gonna see a finger print scanner on the next windows phone flagship or are we gonna wait two years more for such innovation? I'm just getting bored with windows phone. Hello from Russia.:))
  • Finger print scanner...realsense 3d camera...as well maybe...they are showing off all those biometric features...so they got to put it somewhere
  • Fingerprint scanner? ....pass! not needed
  • It is really helpful when you don't want people around you to know your unlock password
  • This. It can be useful. Plus it will be an option, you won't be forced to use it.
  • 535??
  • Does it work with fake Denim or needs proper Denim?  #ATT #FAIL
  • Um no Lumia 1520 I guess? :/
  • 1520 should receive it, at least. Damn it. I think they should use the settings app from grd2 and put it w10. Same UI but at least the grd2 settings are reminiscent of the current ui
  • Ditto 1520 for gdr2
  • No, settings app is universal. What you see for PCs will be for Phones. This is the main focus of 10 - streamlined experience.
  • L630? :)
  • My Lumia 925 is starting to feel old and lonely.
  • Ok, don't worry, this feeling is going to last just 24hs! ; )
  • Your 925 is right ...dual core in the age of quads
  • You just insulted my 920... ;)
  • I knew I picked a good model 830 is great for updates and win phone 10 preview.
  • Not if you're in the U S..... Still waiting on ATT to release the damn Denim update that the phone was advertised with... Feel ripped off for buying this phone, shame on Microsoft & ATT!
  • The USA Telecom carrier problems would stop being a problem once the customers stop being slaves to the telecom carriers and start buying unlocked, full priced phones like the rest of the World.
  • That wont happen
  • Those who followed this advice in the US still got the shaft with the 830.  The US unlocked 830 direct from Microsoft also still does not have Denim.
  • Tweet @ATTSupport and tell them you want denim.
  • Shame on att only. Microsoft has done its nit, just att not lulling its weight
  • Yeah! 830 is the first preference for Microsoft these days for supported handsets. At least..for now..
    I had this slight confusion to buy 930 or 830...I chose em right this time.
  • Eh em, preview for developers? Microsoft seems to not support programs like this long term.... It's a shame really. They build momentum but can never carry it. (See windows phone market share and flagship releases.)
  • windows 10 isn't finished yet, pfd is for finished os versions
  • Isn't pfd itself practically finished? Serious question.
  • That's what we thought about WP8.1 updates too... There hasn't been anything said about PfD being done.
  • Ok, but latest Denim is coming outside pfd. I know you prob. know it, just mentioning.
  • Not sure what you mean, but firmware updates have never been provided in PfD.
  • Yep, you're right! But the WP 8.10.14219 version provided by the PfD program was Denim. The 14226 however, one can only access as of today if outside PfD. Well, I believe we better wait to see how it goes.
  • So? This has nothing to do with W10. I too was wondering about the Preview for Developers program when I read this article. Hopefully Update 2 will be released there, there's nothing that says it won't. But yeah, Microsoft has a history of abandoning projects like that....
  • Another swerve by MS. Left hand says one thing and right hand says something else
  • Nice move...makes sense since these devices have very much in common
  • I think i made a mistake buying Lumia 930.
  • Same here, apparently flagship buyers do not deserve the same customer service
  • No. You just have to fuckin chill and wait idiot.
  • Did you buy a 930 big boy?
  • Yes, I got it 2 months back. It is a beast but I am missing win 10 and gdr 2
  • Have some patience man!!
  • Yup... The reason I am disappointed because, I bought 930 so that I will get updates early as it is a flagship phone. I can wait... :(.
  • This is a tech preview, not the official update. Impatience leads to destruction. Do you really want to try out am unstable OS on your phone?
  • Lumia 830 is really a lucky phone...and am too really lucky
  • Lumia 925?
  • We get Windows 10
  • Ok then.
  • I m just bored of these rumours. By the end of summer I will probably switch back to android.. Cant afford Iphone.
  • Yeah, like you will get updates on Android /s 70% Android devices don't get updated, even once.
  • Why not other devices?
  • But what about Lumia 825?
  • What about the 635? Anyone know? I can always go back to my 830, but I love this little phone!
  • You like the 635 better than 830? Are you crazy?
  • Doesn't really matter much, getting the lumia640 xl the next month......:D
  • Awesome! Good for you! :)
  • I don't know why microsoft is making gdr2 when they're working on windows 10.!
    They should've released 10 till July.
    There's no point of gdr2.
  • Because part of it is the kill switch required by the U.S. Microsoft has to offer it to phones currently being sold there for starters.
  • I hope it's also to fix the problem with the navigation buttons not being as responsive after the Denim update.
  • What abt Lumia 730?
  • Update 2 is dead to me, it's all about windows 10 now
  • Only Microsoft branded phones shall get it
  • don't know about the 735, but the 830 was still Nokia branded
  • Windows 10 will be out before the update is even pushed out is my guess especially if it has to go through carrier approval.
  • There will be a GDR2 update for nearly all handset, this is not everyone who will or want to install WP10 anyway nobody will have a real and stable version of WP10 this year !!!
  • Lumia 730 ??
  • I don't think anyone cares about this update with windows 10 on the horizon
  • I have a feeling, Lumia 930 will be the flagship that Lumia 900 was. Ignored like a plagued bitch.
  • That's what happens when there are virtually no sales in the US. The US is not WP's biggest market, but it probably is for flagships.
  • Will include 730? :)
  • I haven't received any sort of update in a while now ... I don't know if my phone even exists in the market .... Would someone help me out ..... L620
  • The last update was when I got the mobile data in notification area all my frnds without using the dev preview have higher firmware then mine although I am on dev programme
  • You received the last update for the preview users ( I believe it's 8.10.14219 ), they didn't release update 2 to preview... and some phones that received the "official" update (with Denim) have a higher version... check the Microsoft site if you carrier released the oficial update for you phone: http://www.microsoft.com/en/mobile/support/software-update/wp8-software-update/ If the version in this site is higher than yours try to remove the flag in preview app
  • My OS version is: 8.10.14219.341 Firmware revision number: 3058.50000.1425.0001. I recieved the last update in december after which i have had no luck. i have tried removing the flag stuff but still no luck. The status of L620 in my country is: Lumia 620
    Country variant
    Denim
    8.10.14219.341
    3058.50000.1425.0001 but still software release remains as CYAN
  • There is a bug that sometimes causes it to say cyan when you have denim. The best way to know is see if you have the denim only features. In the case of the 620 I don't think there are any so you wouldn't be able to tell anyway. You probably already have denim. The version number is more important than the name anyway. Go to the forums if you have more questions.
  • thanks just wanted to know a friend of mine uses l730. that phone recently got an update but the mobile data doesnt appear in notification centre as yet.
  • 620 :'(
  • I wonder if this is why US 830s haven't received full Denim yet? Maybe they're just jumping straight to Update 2.
  • I was thinking the same thing when I read this article, makes sense since it seems like multiple models of the 830 did not get official denim yet.
  • I also wonder if the new US kill switch laws have anything to do with it.  The 1520 won't be sold anymore, but perhaps they're planning on keeping the 830 around long enough that it'll have to be compatible with the law.  That seems a reasonable reason why US varients (esp. the US CV unlocked RM-985) don't have it yet.
  • Guess the means ill have to wait 2 years for the AT&t 830 to get windows 10 cuz update 2 wont come till next year
  • How about 535?
  • Wish Lumia 520 was der too.....
  • Somewhat surprised, but til now I still don't have the full Denim update for my NL 830. Mine's Philippines CV tho.
  • Just focused on tomorrow's release of beta 10 to a whole new batch of phones!!!!!
  • Shouldn't this be a trickle down effect and not a trickle up or sideways ? 1520 then 1020 and so on...
  • It is a trickle down effect. Newest to oldest.
  • I was just at the at&t store yesterday. Happen to run into the Microsoft mobile rep. He told me, 4 phones are coming out in June. A 1520 upgrade, a 1020 upgrade and 2 mid phones. All running windows 10. Had a PowerPoint to show it off but wouldn't let me take a picture of it.
  • WTF!!!
  • Photo or it didn't happen.
  • Wow, great news. Paul Therrot mentioned in the podcasts a while ago that there'd be a 1020 successor so I believe this. That's the one I'm waiting on
  • Yeah, because Microsoft mobile reps hang out at your local AT&T store, on a non-launch occasion. Take up creative writing, maybe?
  • If it's gonna to be for 735&830 it includes a firmware update
  • Yessss 830!! Microsoft is too good for me :)
  • Why I bought this Lumia 930 ?! I thought that it was the flagship and everything will come first on this device ..... Microsoft is dreams seller
  • +1 :(
  • That was exactly my thinking :-(
  • Wowie
    I own a 730, waiting for the update :D
  • I was hoping it'd come to the 1020 since mine was rendered pretty much unusable since the last update. Now it's collecting dust while waiting for W10. 
  • Just release the thing so we get to get productive with keyboards and Microsoft can focus on W10 already.
  • I think its interesting that when we don't know about a feature, most people are satisfied with what they have. When we hear about a new feature, we want it. Then, when they announce when it will be available, we all of a sudden need it really badly. I can see now why features are leaked slowly to the public.
  • True. Though for members here, it's often not even about the feature itself, they just demand to have the latest version number on their phone whether they will use anything in that version or not.
  • Exactly. People scream for denim and don't use any of its features.
  • Lol, kk, thx MS for dont caring about ur falgship 930...
  • I'll possibly be on windows 10 by Friday. No worry's.
  • When in India?
  • Dude, you're not even Indian!
  • . Lumia 640 XL is out of stock on flipkart in india except black variant.
  • 730 or 830 is better buy rather than 640 XL............ 
  • What about 535 its one of the recent devices n popular in india
  • In the image under help contacts title the link is still
    link.nokia.com/support !!!
  • :(
    I guess no updates for 520, 620
  • Lumia 730
  • Why through carriers for God's sake? Why can't MS let us have updates direct from MS like the apple updates? Our life on Windows will end on a wait. Poof
  • What is in this update 2? Is it applicable for devices out of the US?
  • This is just another update to the OS (GDR 2).  Preview for developers should be able to get this update. I don't understand Microsoft. 
  • What makes you think it won't come out through PfD?
  • because it hasn't. it comes through PFD before public release not after. 
  • Too bad they couldn't release an update to 8.1 that fixes all the dumb changes (games in apps list, resuming screens, etc). 8.1 update 2 seems very half assed.
  • I'm rocking the 830! Woo hoo! Lucky me!
  • Wish it were available as dev preview?
  • Better don't release the news if most of the things are remain unknown.
  • So. Only the 830 and 735 will get it? Why? And it isn't available yet?
  • Some more handsets will get it, don't know which. MSFT only confirmed the update on 830 and 730/735.
  • But... What about nl630?
  • The more phones Microsoft launch the more time it takes to update all the models. Why don't concentrate on 5 or 6 solid models? For example they could have released Lumia 532 only as a budget device.
  • I love Windows Central, but articles like this make me upset.  I love the WP platform but these articles make you want to hate it.  If MS comes out with an update, again, for the life of me I can not understand why there can not be a GLOBAL ROLLOUT!  Every article I read like this pushes me over to iOS.
  • If anything it's the childish comments from so many people that ruin things on a forum like this. Before you jump ship to ios, research the many technical issues that happen during an apple ios update...
  • I hope and assume that this will be released through Preview for Developers program, unless news comes out saying otherwise. No reason to believe it won't.
  • :(
  • Looking forward to this. Will finally be able to use a Bluetooth keyboard on my 735. :)
  • Why nothing to Microsoft Lumia 535
  • I haven't seen or heard of any awesome new features...
  • Everything will be timed to try and take media attention from the launch of iPhone 6s and iOS9
  • By Microsoft and its all thumbs marketing department? Yeah, no.
     
  • Lumia 730
  • Probably 2016!!! Lol
  • Lumia 735 then that means lumia730 as well?? Yay yipeeeee
  • Wow, so much negativity in here. Seriously, it's an update for some phone software. It's not earth shatteringly important nor is it going to mean your current phone is going to stop working and spontaneously combust.
    Get a grip of yourselves and think before lashing out at the person asking ' When in India?' or because Microsoft haven't announced a flagship device or because the man in the coffee shop looked at you funny or because your 930 isn't getting Denim or W10 and you haven't ever been laid.
    This is supposed to be somewhere to discuss the posted article, not rant about how YOU think Microsoft should handle WP and how only YOU can save the OS singlehandedly if only a multi billion dollar business would let you.
    TL,DR: Stop being ranty, shouty dicks.
  • I suppose you are new..hence the patience
  • I'm surprised that nobody asked the basic follow-up question to the reveal of WP8.1 GDR2 on "selected handsets in certain markets," whether this would filter through to users enrolled on the PfD program?  It seems logical but a quick confirmation either way would have been helpful to know.
  • Yes, I'm hoping WCentral can find out and report on that. I assume it will come through the Preview program though, no reason to believe it won't, really.
  • So if the Windows Insider app is for getting the Windows 10, why can't MS use the Dev Preview app for Update 2?
  • Who says they won't?
  • Hi guys new to these forums.Just got myself a 930 and starting to think I bought a lemon already
  • Don't listen to the many mindless comments, I've just had to downgrade from 1520 to 930 after my 1520 was plagued with issues. I'm delighted with my 930 and am not in the slightest bit concerned about the stupid comments here by people that are bad mouthing it. 930 is a decent phone and a high spec- don't let anyone fool you otherwise. Enjoy your 930. Hope this helps!
  • oh my God, all this moaninggggggg
  • Waiting the successor to 1020 with these security features, with Windows 10
  • Icon user here, and forgive the question as I am not very technically or legally savvy... But is there a link or quick breakdown of what the whole "remote kill switch laws" implies? Is this some federal regulation that means US phone carriers need to have something installed that is part of the new build or later? If so, does that mean an accelerated roll out to ALL phones... or is this the opposite and something that is entirely at the carriers' discretion? I ask because Verizon is never in a hurry for Windows Phones, bit I assume they would be if it was literally a mandatory legal/compliance requirement.
  • Microsoft completely forgot its previous phones...AFTER NOKIA 730
  • Since every WP8 Lumias are getting WP10 update, they will also get the WP8.1 gdr2 ryt?
  • Same question I have. Can't find the answer anywhere.
  • Well that's how it should be if you think about it.
  • This scattergun approach of MS has got to stop. Be consistent with all your users.
  • Just waiting for windows 10
  • I don't even have denim yet
  • Whats your phone?
  • Is it available for 535 by any chance?
  • I Lumia Icon and 930 are dead? I just bought an Icon
  • Whats new in this update? I just updated my 730 now
  • The headline changes include:- - Reset protection feature - a way to stop the phone from being useful when stolen even if reset to factory defaults
    - Bluetooth keyboard support
    - New Settings Menu - re-organised by section and merges the current System + Application pivots into a single view
    - You can pin individual settings to the Start Screen and search for a setting
    - Application permissions - allows you to tweak what access an app has to your phone's features like contacts or camera
    - Support for more languages including Bangla (Bangladesh), Khmer, Kiswahili, Lao
    - Support for Wi-Fi calling - built-in to the phone rather than through third-party apps as currently implemented
    - Video over LTE – Customize specific settings and behaviour for Video over LTE to meet mobile operator requirements including Showing or hiding the LTE video calling switch, Enabling video conferencing, etc.
  • For Lumia 636?
  • Wasn't the 930 the last phone to be designed and made solely by Nokia hence why Microsoft doesn't really care about it.
  • No. The last phone made by Nokia Corporation is Lumia 630
  • 630?
  • Word I wish would disappear from the WC lexicon: Rocking.
  • Os it end of support for previous generation devices?
  • Presuming it will be carrier deendent so will never get it...
  • You not post me wp?
  • Still waiting for for denim on at&t 830 with 128gb Samsung sdxc card.
  • Nothing for 520 since 3months
  • Gonna check this out! For sure,
  • An update is available it said, I downloaded it like it asked, it installed it did, unable to open it says......what the fuck I said.....1320 user, why offer it to me I say....MS say nothing........
  • So the ICON owners get screwed AGAIN.  This ICON phone and Microsoft's "wonderful" exclusive relationship with Verizon has got me thinking long and hard about another Windows Phone device.  Overpriced.  Dropped by Verizon after just a few months (so that Verizon could focus on the HTC M8).  No Cyan update.  Long delayed Denim update.  Act of congress to get warranty replacement (after paying for added warranty). How bad does Microsoft need to get burned to stop this exclusive phone BS?  What will it take for them to learn from Apple, HTC and Samsung to simply develop a few devices - and sell them at all carriers?  When is Microsoft going to take control of their own OS updates?  And when is Microsoft going to get out of the "denial mode" regarding their major APP problem.  Unless things change by late summer and unless Lumia comes out with showstopper device, I would say that I have seen just about enough.
  • Fragmentation & Microscrouogle come to mind Resuming + loading.....
  • Yes MadDogFL62....I feel like I'm coming to the end as far as windowsphone is concerned after starting out with 6 all the way through the year's to the emerging W10, seeing Android and Apple soar so far ahead and devs not even considering windows and some even pulling the plug on their apps and not updating etc, where's it going to end ? Ultimately I'll probably wait for W10, see how or if its improved then make a decision...if not sooner......its been a great ride MS.....
  • Verizon customers can expect the update on their Lumia 928 and Icon devices in September, 2019 ;-).
  • Wow! Microsoft giving Update 2 quickly. How about denim update for lumia 925 in Philippines? Hehe damn
  • 2016 for windows 10 i certain about that!!!!
  • Updating now. Lumia 535 UK. I have no clue what update it is
  • then what about Lumia 730.. it didn't get Lumia camera 5.0   what about Win 8.1 update 2
  • These postings are beginning to remind me of the old 8 Ball game where you would shake the ball and an answer would float into view. Answers like "maybe so" "not likely" "try again" fill pages when no one really has the definitive answer, leaving only conjecture to clog the web.
  • What's new in this update ?
  • "Confirming" an update and getting it from your Carrier are 2 different things.  Microsoft needs to take control of this situation and send these update out OTA directly from them.  They negotiate these "exclusive phone deals" with these Carriers and all the Carriers do are treat Windows Phone customers like crap.  (see: Verizon and Lumia ICON)
  • As long as they include the kill switch in Windows 10 it's a non-issue for me. I can wait. 
  • the question now is WHEN!!!!????
  • Always selected device. Why???
  • My 1520 just updated to 8.1 update 2!
  • For some reason I got installed the Update 2 in My lumia 1320. I dont know should I be happy or sad. Coz i was trying to install the windows 10 and the phone got updated to Update 2 which wasn't meant for 1320 till now. anybody else facing this issue please reply
  • Got it on my unlocked 530 in Australia today.
  • I got update 2 and go down to cyan from denim
  • I've got windows 10 technical preview from windows 8.1 update 2....then removed windows 10 because of so many bugs..but now windows 8.1 update 2 isn't appearing....how can I update???
  • Just do the same thing with trying to update to Windows 10. But skip the second update (Windows10) by uninstalling the Windows Insider app after you updated to 8.1 GDR2.
  • when can we get the update in India ???
  • I updated to 8.1 Update 2 and now apps cannot access Photos... I can't post pics to 6tag or edit pics coz they don't appear when trying to access the Photos app. :( hope a patch comes soon.
  • Hi there, For this update what I did installed windows insider and then enrolled into............ after this checked updates....... the first update is basically UPDATE 2......  After that the update re checks and asks for windows 10 TP update available........ i just ignored the same for now as i tried the same on 1020 and its a little  bit buggy for now And......... Update 2 is available on my 1020 and 830 both............... :)  i just reverted back to 8.1 on 1020 coz of buggy wp10 tp   regards...............
  • I'm waiting for the update to my Lumia 535 Dual. 
  • The XOLO Win Q1000 has received the GDR2 update much before many other Lumias. I am happy to see even Indian OEMs releasing the updates for their WP handsets unlike Samsung, which neglects its WP devices.
  • Finally, my 830 got gdr2 this morning.
  • using 535, is there new updates
  • when it will release for 520 in india................  
  • is it available for lumia 640 LTE dual sim? i got a call softwear call bug in it and so fed up abt it 
  • When does the GDR 2 Update come to 730 in India?? I feel MSFT is neglecting such a good phone. And its way better than 640 XL...