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Microsoft rolls out Windows 10 build 16176 and 15204 for PC and Mobile Insiders

Microsoft is today rolling out two new Windows 10 Insider Preview builds for PC and Mobile for Insiders in the Fast ring today. The builds in question are 16176 for PC, and peculiarly 15204 for Mobile. Microsoft says Windows 10 Mobile builds will be issues from a different branch than that of the PC Insider Program from here on out.

Also, these new builds are available for the following handsets only:

  • HP Elite x3
  • Microsoft Lumia 550
  • Microsoft Lumia 640/640XL
  • Microsoft Lumia 650
  • Microsoft Lumia 950/950 XL
  • Alcatel IDOL 4S
  • Alcatel OneTouch Fierce XL
  • SoftBank 503LV
  • VAIO Phone Biz
  • MouseComputer MADOSMA Q601
  • Trinity NuAns NEO

What's new for PC?

  • Windows Subsystem for Linux Gains Serial Device Support: Windows COM ports can now be accessed directly from a WSL process!
  • You can now hold down the power button on your device for 7 seconds to trigger a bugcheck. This will only work on newer devices that don't uses legacy ACPI power buttons.
  • Narrator will work again on this build.
  • We fixed the issue causing some apps and games to crash due to a misconfiguration of advertising ID that happened in a prior build.
  • We fixed an issue resulting in the Start menu and Action Center having a noticeable framerate drop in their animations on certain devices if transparency was enabled and there were open UWP apps.
  • We fixed an issue from the previous build where the Action Center could get into a state where dismissing one notification unexpectedly dismissed multiple.
  • We fixed an issue where the Clock and Calendar flyout was unexpectedly missing the agenda integration for some Insiders.
  • We fixed an issue from the previous build (Build 16170) resulting in Surface Books unexpectedly doing a disk check after waking from sleep due to it bugchecking during sleep.
  • We fixed an issue from the previous build resulting in Win32 app text sometimes not rendering, for example in File Explorer, until logging out and back in.
  • We fixed an issue where the Extensions Process was suspended inappropriately during Connected Standby, resulting in Microsoft Edge becoming unresponsive on wake if any extensions had been installed.

What's new for Mobile?

  • We have added a new privacy page to the Windows 10 Mobile OOBE experience that allows you to quickly and effectively make common privacy changes while setting up the device. You can read more about our Windows 10 privacy journey here.
  • We fixed the issue where the keyboard would sometimes not appear when a text input field is selected in Microsoft Edge. Known issues for Mobile

Zac Bowden is a Senior Editor at Windows Central. Bringing you exclusive coverage into the world of Windows 10 on PCs, tablets, phones, and more. Also an avid collector of rare Microsoft prototype devices! Keep in touch on Twitter: @zacbowden.

248 Comments
  • Downloading!
  • spybot anti beacon
  • Goodbye older phones..
  • This feels like "**** you for believing in us muahaha..." I am done with this ****. 
  • I feel ya, thats how I'm looking at this all right now.
  • Besides being sad, I can still read your ****, lol.
  • Goodbye
  • MS should unlock system for older phone... that we can install other ROM such as android. T_T
  • Irony, Idol 4S supported.....
  • Alcatel Idol 4S was just released last year so it must be supported until 2018.
  • What ever happened to the Acer Jade Primo? It launched and then disappeared. It even launched as a W10M device. 
  • Acer dropped support almost immediately. It never got the anniversary update. It was DOA.
  • "Microsoft says Windows 10 Mobile builds will be issued from a different branch than that of the PC Insider Program from here on out." What do they mean by that? they no longer care?....and seriously when are they going to implement the fix to the broken "Connect app" that came with Creators update. They claim they have a fix in the feedback hub so why won't they implement it now?...Gosh! I need that app to work in the forest!
  • Probably now in maintenance mode only.
  • likely that Windows on ARM will replace what is W10 Mobile now. Makes sense, and would literally be their last chance 
  • Agree. It looks like they are targeting not just WM but Android as well with their own edition because it would then have the apps many say they can't do without. I am wondering if they are working on a duel OS device.
  • This is a pretty sure sign that Windows 10 Mobile is over; it's probably just going to be patches from here on out. I think we've all seen this coming for a while; hopefully they'll officially announce end of development at Build to give us some closure. I think the most likely plan now is to start building a refined version of Windows 10 on ARM to be used on handsets.
  • Its because mobile doesn't release until April 25th
  • Hhmm....that makes perfect sense......if only true
  • Why wouldn't it be true
  • Basically Microsoft doesn't talk to us anymore and we the fans do it for them based on the current circumstances.
  • Dude relax
  • 😂 don't mind me, I need an option to Android and iOS.
  • I switched to an S7 Edge, I'd recomend you do the same, im done with win10M and wil wait till the Win10 on ARM arrives. i dont think there will be a Surface "phone" . i still wish if they could keep the mobile interface for mobile mode in Win10 ARM and full experience in Continuum mode. WILL MISS THE WINDOWS10 Mobile. spent a decade with the OS. :'(
  • Folks are just trying to prepare for bad news they expect. In all fairness, MS has not said anything one way or the other. Folks are trying to read the tea leaves.
  • Glad to know I am not the only one with this problem. It's so annoying.
  • I ended up doing a hard reset to fix that issue, once it was apparent that it wasn't a priority. Its actually a good idea to do it every so often.
  • From here on in.
  • Out
  • In and out
  • Twist and shout?
  • ...that's what a hamburger (menu) is all about. 
  • Why not for Lumia 540
  • too old
  • It is same as lumia 640
  • 640 runs the creator's update better than the 540 according to Microsoft feedback from users like you
  • Latest FR build runs better than 14393.xx on my 540
  • All their reasons are utter bullshit! Its just that they can't optimise their software, thats all. Wonder how apple does it!  Even i own 540, its sad that we wont get even the creators update, though it had nothing much to offer.
  • Its easy for them to drop support rather than fixing bugs. They will never succeed in smartphone business.
  • Newer releases of iOS run like **** on older devices, and they still only support one device, while Windows supports many.
  • Sorry, this is false. My wife has a 5S updated to the latest and she doesn't complain at all. And she's a 20 tabs kinda user with some social media mixed in. 
  • This is false. My sisters ip6 battery doesn't hold charge after latest updates. My brother in laws ip5 lost BT altogether after updates. Designed obsolescence.
  • Killing off all things Nokia, including my 930
  • Twitter will be awash today with back lash from people with older devices. Although clear reasons were given. My bad. Edited.
  • What apology?
  • I must have missed the apology. And the reasons as well.
  • THIS made me laugh  - MouseComputer MADOSMA Q601 the hell is this and where is it available? :D
  • only in Asia. I believe it is available in India, Bangladesh, Malaysia, China, etc.
  • In India?? Never seen anyone using one..
  • Believe it or not, MADOSMA Q601 is the best win10 mobile phone in Japan, with s617... And it has been released for a year. When I was in U.S., I thought the reality of WP is poor enough, until I came to Japan...
  • Guys, is this a RS2 build ? Or RS3 ?
  • These builds are likely for Redstone 3
  • RS3
  • well pc is RS3 we know it but since mobile hasnt released yet i believe its RS2 and the fixes mobile got do prove to fix problems mobile still had.
  • Yes, now that you mentioned I hope that's still RS2. BECAUSE it's still on 152...... Rather than 160.... 160...... Is for RS3
  • Just because it's 15xxx doesn't mean it's still RS2. The final version of RS2 was 15063, and this is 15204, which is greater than 15063. Anything greater than 15063 (other than point releases like 15063.11 or something) is RS3, even if it's still 15xxx.
  • Given that the release date for mobile is the 25th, this is a Redstone 2 build for mobile. If it was Redstone 3 it would have similar build numbers. This also happened with the first official release of windows 10 for mobile. PCs got 10240 but mobile kept receiving larger and larger build numbers until it was finally stable.
  • ^^^ True story, especially said MS stated that mobile will be bracnhing off now for some reason from the PC build. These are both RS3 builds, just different branches. The article should do a better job of explaining this.
  • I'm pretty sure it's RS3. The final major build number of RS2 was 15063. This is 15204, which is greater than 15063, so it's RS3.
  • No its not RS3 for mobile
  • For PCs, RS3, for mobile, RS2
  • So does this mean it's safe to stay on the Insiders for Mobile given it's apparent there won't be a RS3 for it any time soon?
  • build 15024 is the build to prep your phone for RS3. To stay on RS2 / Creators Update, switch to Release Preview so that your device will be at build 15063.XXX
  • I am using Lumia 640 as u said i switched to release preview ring ,i instilled the latest r2 build 138 ,so i don't want rs 3 builds so i will get official update of creators update na??
  • Your comment is wrong. This build is the next build for RS2 for mobile, seeing as mobile still hasn't officially released yet. Watch this build come to release preview in a week
  • So its safe
  • Depends on whether you can stand to deal with the known issues they posted
  • Rest in peace, my dear Lumia 930 as W10M went to pieces :P
  • Are you on RS2 at least? :P
  • It's not the end of the world. You can still use your phone and have access to the growing library in the Windows Store (for Windows 10 Mobile). It's just that you won't receive any new updates
  • I heard that RS3 builds are out already
  • No RS3 for phones. This means they just put a fork in mobile
  • 15204 is part of RS3, AFAIK.
  • No its not
  • yaaaaaaaaaaaay thank God I rock L640 xl
  • So I can't get this on my Winsider 830? That makes me sad :(
  • It makes no sense that the 640 gets the update and the 830 doesn't. They have the same specs
  • Yes however the Lumia 640 / 640XL were released 6 months after the Lumia 830.
  • Doesn't change the fact that they're basically the same phone with different shells (same with 730/735). If the 640 can run it, the 830 will run it too (not even talking about 930 or 1520)
  • So, I can hope 2days until it rolls out for slow ring
  • Hmmmm (Feature2) that's an odd name on the update too !!
  • Last one was April 2017 update for arm, now not.
  • Mobile: "No Internet"..................................................................................................................................................... And it looks like Creators Update for mobile is actually going to ship with that. Why?
  • Rocked the hell out !!?!! Just about to missed. I got L640 DS
  • How's the build guys ? Same as it is?
  • nothing changed yet.
  • My beloved Lumia 640 is still supported :) I was thinking about buying a new phone but this extremely cheap device with just 1gb of memory works surprisingly well with a modern OS like W10M
  • Amazingly awesome than I expect any phone with 1GB ram !!!
  • Guys, this mobile build is of RS3.. Anybody installed it ? Or Its still RS2 ?
  • It's still RS2
  • Well mobile should still be on the RS2 branch since the update is not official there!!!
  • feature 2 ???
  • Who knows?
  • Oh, I just read its of RS3. Thanks buddy, and a last one, did you guys get groove music neon taste(blurred) on mobile ? Where is it ?
  • They are killing windows mobile like a slow poison
  • The official beginning of the end. Incidentally my 930 runs the creators update far better than my 950.
  • Have you hard reset your 950?
  • Yes😐
  • I regret buying BLU Win HD LTE now, thought it would be one of the supported handsets, can't blame the OEM though.
  • Blu discontinued that phone months ago
  • The OEM (BLU) is exactly who is to blame lol. They discontinued support.
  • I got my blu win HD LTE, as a black Friday Amazon special. It runs w10m as smooth as silk and cost just £49 . Only problem, is within warranty the earpiece speaker went screwy an the pen ignored all warranty requests.. The phone was/is great, but I would never buy anything from blu and u would strongly advise others to do the same. I now use the blu as a mini tablet round the house. It has a good battery, ok screen. The camera sucks hairy goat chestnuts as does the oem!!
  • Why only few selected devices :(
  • It depends of processor version of snapdragon.. And latest version will work. They are currently focused on building mobile right, fixing the OS issue.. Lets hope good.. Older device may have to stop somehow. Nokia WP must die. But OEM will survive.
  • Ok, I held out for long enough. This is the beginning of the end. This means PC is on an RS3 path and mobile is on an RS2.x path. There will be no RS3 for mobile...
  • Yup, no RS3 until April 24th. Where RS2 will be pushed generally. Then the insider of RS2 can stop their way home and guys who want to go for RS3 will be on the train and continue their journey.
  • "Microsoft says Windows 10 Mobile builds will be issues from a different branch than that of the PC Insider Program from here on out." Emphasis on "here on out". If they don't bring the branch back to the main code line then it will never be RS3.
  • 15204 is part of RS3, AFAIK. RS3 may or may not have new features for mobile, but it is still a thing. (Probably.)
  • No this build is not RS3. See my above explanation
  • Sorry Chris, but you are wrong. 15204 is RS3 (source: Buildfeed.net: https://buildfeed.net/build/d2ba2817-3d12-427e-b47b-2eda09251e25/). RS2, the Creator's Update, is Build Number 15063, with revisions numbered as .XXX. The current publicly available release of the Creators Update is 15063.138. This is the version released to everyone for PCs and only to Insiders for Mobile. The latest private internal build of RS2 is 15063.151 according to Buildfeed.net. If I had to guess, that will probably be the Creators Update version that will get released to everyone on April 25th for mobile. Who knows, they might even release that version out-of-band to PCs at the same time. We'll see...  
  • I wish Microsoft a slow and painful death.
  • Well it's a good thing you're someone of no significance then.
  • Hey i using Lumia 640 i dont want Redstone 3 i m in slow ring i want creators update after official release i want to stop insider program pls help
  • 279kk..just stick on till April 24..know the general release build and when those build number matches your current build.. Then hit stop insider program and step out of RS3 train.
  • If the number doesn't match or if i am stuck on 138 build in slow ring then i will get official update???
  • Leave insider program and wait for production build
  • Now i am running 150 63 138 build should i stuck here?
  • If you don't want Redstone 3, I would recommend leaving the Insider Program now. :)
  • Leaving now wont solve the problem bro, whatever we do, itll be automatically carried to next major general release. After April 24th. We can leave the program.
  • Yeah me too. Stick with same build. Dude, just hit stop button on 24th April..dont panic.. No one will be stuck on preview build..the device automatically jumps to next major general release if we exit on middle of nowhere builds.. Just chill
  • Hey suraj help pls
  • And if that number doesn't match then what should i do???
  • Im on same build, same device. L640. Just hang on..100% the build will match. MS will give option to exit. Just hit stop insider build when the general release is out
  • But a guy here tell to mive to release preview ring to get only rs2 update nd i moved so its oky suraj??
  • Yarr but when to stop after general release? Or after before installing general official build??
  • So if general release is out then hit stop insider program and then check for updates???
  • Build 152...mobile issues.
    For Insiders who have upgraded from a prior 150xx build to this build, the “Add Bluetooth or other devices” Settings page and the Connect UX page may fail to open
  • it's a shame they're not able to fix this, same issue in nearly every new build....
  • A edge bug and lots of continuum bugs..
  • I want to see new Cumulative for Creators Update with next improvements:
    -We fixed an issue resulting in the Start menu and Action Center having a noticeable framerate drop in their animations on certain devices if transparency was enabled and there were open UWP apps.
  • We are still on the way to RS2..there is no chance to get off the train, the doors are locked.. Only door will be opened is general release build.
  • Yarr i am on release preview ring now ,a guy said here ,
  • Dude. Just chill. If you are very scared, hit stop build, itll ask 3option.. Choose, continue till general build. And exit the fast/ slow ring.
  • AFAIK, 15063.x is the general release build. I think 15204 is RS3.
  • 830 owner: Goodbye MSFT...
  • There is no update for me I have the idol and there's nothing
  • Have patience. Double check your insider settings...then soft reset...then check your settings again then check for updates
  • Microsoft is a ***** thevedya
  • F%*#! Lumia icon and just replaced battery yesterday! Not wanting to buy another device before my next WIN device!
  • Then just change the registry to a 950 XL and keep getting updates.
  • How bro?
  • How? Pls tell us
  • Use interop tools.Now getting update on my L1520
  • Not good for mobile. Indicates the start of end of life for mobile builds, with a maintenance branch being created. We likely have to wait until newer ARM PCs arrive to get mainstream branch builds again.
  • Not a maintenance branch.
  • And.....adding Bluetooth devices is still broken.
  • No, it's fixed. Do a reset. Something else is wrong on your phone.
  • Hard reset fixes that. It's something else screwy on your phone causing it.
  • I have a Lumia 640 XL in the Fast ring, and I'm not seeing build 15204. Anyone else? JTD
  • Dang...this drops me from three to just one supported phone... (not even mentioning the three WP8 devices...oh w8, I just did 😂)
    Anyway, I'm not gonna do Insider builds on the daily driver. So no more Insider for me here... ☹
  • Glad they fixed the text input issue!
  • So, let's address the elephant in the room. "Different branch". My interpretation is that they are signalling this really is the beginning of the end for W10M.  This whole "one core" thing was a sham from the beginning and their mobile strategy is now shifting into higher gear....supporting iOS and Android.
  • I think the new phones will support straight up regular Windows 10 which is why Mobile is on a different branch.
  • My daily driver is a L950XL, but from experience I can say that my 930 runs way better than my 640 and 650 on the latest builds.
  • wow you got a lot of phones there!
  • Unable to install 16176. Any workarounds? I tried the one that got me 16170 installed. But it doesn't work this time. Also SEP flags dwwin.exe as a Trojan.
  • Update: I didn't realize it was for the Fast ring. I am in the Slow ring and I do not see this update yet on my 950.
  • So Good bye Microsoft, thanks for not listening My 1520
  • Well, it's been fun. A real shame that Microsoft couldn't make Windows phone successful and is so terrible at communicating its long-term plan with it's few remaining fans. Saving up for a new iPhone now...
  • They could have done it, if they would have released windows 10 mobile without bugs, or the least bugs a system can have. But minding the fact that after one years the system on mobile is still buggy, well... Yeah, they are pathetic.
  • Separate branch for mobile? Seems like it's coming to an end.
  • Business already have a different branche. It means the update will be there later. Considering CU is later anyway, it actually makes sense.
  • Yes but that is so business gets special attention. This is probably to put mobile in low maintenance hood with only small changes and fixes. Obviously pure speculation but the signs aren't positive.
  • I doubt that.
  • Why?
  • I believe this branch is for enterprise builds of mobile
  • That's a fair point. However again, I feel it will be maintenance and security fixes. The big enterprise push will be WOA with continuum and C Shell to run enterprise software.
  • I don't even want to think about going to a android and iPhone is totally out of the question. I'm on Verizon because none of the other big 3 have any signal to speak of. Guess I'll ride my 735 into the ground.
  • Honestly have never seen so many cry-babies ever and worse cheap skate cry-babies. Every android and apple product becomes next to useless after one year. Stop crying and start updating your phone, I changed my 1520 for a 950xl for now and later I will get the Surface micro. Boohoo get over yourselves and start spending.
  • There's not a single windows phone in India? How to upgrade?
  • Anyone else get a configuration update on the Release Preview? Just came in on my 950.
  • "Some update files aren't signed correctly. Error code: (0x800b0109)" 950XL fails to update.
  • Same here
  • Common we and you specially all know a phone lasts 2 years. Lumia 925 at least has 3. Good to have update at this time even if it is the last. 3 years. Tell me a android that gets that. And that got better with the updates it received. And all this investment in 0.3% market share. Tell me if there's something like that on any other brand. How can you complaint about WM when even if almost dead they still fixed bugs for devices 3 yr old... Please tell me you acknowledge this. Or else you are just going with the news trend and not the real thing going on.
  • Still have a fully functional 925. Works great on W10M actually! Stopped getting builds quite some time ago but still works well.
  • I have a lumia 950xl with 1.5 years. Will live another 1.5 till its 3. After I will look to the market and hope there will be windows phones out there or whatever they wanna call what's gonna fit in my pocket. Natural course. Don't look at dumb systems for dumb audience. We are here because we are not like that we are different and we choose to be. That's why I had an N9 instead of a SG2 at the time and I'm glad I did!
  • We share the same opinion :)
  • Except for the Start Screen, what else is unique to the Windows Mobile UI? All apps having hamburger icons just look like android.
  • I'm glad to be authentic and I wish to continue aa long as basic functions work around here. I'm simple and I have good taste. Don't want to chase pokemons.. If u know what I mean 😉
  • My 1520 runs better than 950o on the last build why stop the support now
  • Updated SOC info.  Any phone below the Snapdragon 801 can't update to Nougat because of Vulcan API.  We are not the only ones that have to deal with it.  Apple, with 10.3, if phasing out 32 bit processing from their OS. Tons of warning that apps will no longer be available in future updates. IOS 11 will  probably be 64 bit completely and only processors capable of 64 bit architecture will be able to use IOS 11. Doesn't the Lumia 1520 have the Snapdragon 800? Yeah it does. Man that is old. Amazing Device there. But won't support 64 bit.         
  • So if I am on the latest rs2 release with that Microsoft edge bug I would never get a fix then?
  • Stay on Release Preview and it will... you'll still get cumulative updates
  • But Android and iOS both have newer devices coming often so that anyone using older hardware can upgrade to newer ones. Can't say the same for Windows 10 Mobile users. Also, the newer updates are not adding major new features. They are all minor improvements. So I don't see a reason why older hardware cannot run it properly.
  • you can intall it on any x20 (with 1Gb ram) and above, you just don't get any support from ms
  • Wait so my Lumia 1520 running the latest rs2 with that Microsoft edge bug will never be updated?
  • Stay on Release Preview and it will... you'll still get cumulative updates
  • May or may not. I can't see any company actively supporting such an old chipset at this point. 
  • So much f'n crying going on right now.  Here's hoping these cry babies move on and we get some damn peace here at WindowsCentral.
  • I was on my way here to say the exact same thing. And I thought the Safe Spacers were a whiney bunch, then again, maybe they are one in the same.
    They need to their safe spacer closet, coloring books and a puppy, maybe Katy Perry can help sooth their trauma.
  • I find it strange how many people have 1520's and have not done the simple things to enable Continuum and yet again a simple registry tweak and I'm rocking this build. After all isn't this what makes Windows great. Almost anything you want to do is achievable and easier then other OS's. Windows life without walls after all.
  • How did you enable continuum on your 1520? I wouldn't have likely upgraded to the 950xl if my 1520 could do it. I miss the big screen.
  • Some update files not signed correctly. Error.
  • My headphones doesn't work on this mobile build (L950XL)
  • I think this does it for me, MS has left me stranded again with a phone that can run the newest OS update. At least with android there is a developer community which provides custom ROMs offering me a path to upgrade. Lets hope they dont screw everyone over like they have done in the past with Windows mobile...
  • So mobile build will always be behind in terms of number.!😗😒
  • For some reason the version of Store is older than the one on 15063 release preview insider and no newer version is available when I check for updates (PC desktop)
  • My idol4s dint get the update but my 950 did
  • R.I.P my Lumia 830
  • Still no update for my idol I have the last update before this one and yet no update that was released yesterday???
  • Got it here on my 950xl. Not having any of the issues listed on the blog. How do you like your idol? Was thinking of getting one as a secondary device.
  • New build, same problems :(
  • No probs here
  • Only problem with edge is solved. My problem on L950 with switch light from quick action is still.
  • What problems?
  • When i switch light from locked phone, from quick action, light shut off when display off. In unlocked phone all is good. In official build all works good. Last few insider build same problem, light switch off when display off.
  • Just received update, playing around with it, feels like a big improvement. Very snappy and responsive.
  • mobile or pc
  • For me, both mobile and PC :D
  • Although Banking apps still think my phone is jailbroken so won't launch, which is probably the most frustrating thing for me as I heavily rely on those apps.
  • Won't install on my PC. Windows update just tells me "failed to install". Useless
  • Thank goodness they fixed the choppy start menu and action center bug. It's been there for about 6 builds and it's made navigating Windows a slog.
  • why are people on 3-4 year old phones ******** and moaning about not getting updates?
  • Because this is not about hardware. For example, my 6-7 year old notebook go well on win10 and have creators update... Why not lumia 930 etc on w10 creators update. Hardware is good.
  • There are no phones to upgrade to. May be there are one or two in the US and few other regions. But there's not a single Windows Mobile available in India. So what should windows phone users in India do? And I'm sure there are many other countries as well where there are no phones to ugrade to.
  • Heyyy - random restarts are back, baby! Twice in 24 hours. On 950.
  • None for me, 950xl
  • Do a hard reset :)
  • How well works the registry hack to "change" the 930 to a 640?
    Well my next phone will be a GPixel or an iPhone with M$ apps that are better supported than native. If W10M' s gonna be abandonware then at least give us the code for the drivers or ability to transform the phone into an Android . I wish W10M all the worst (cause M$ is destroyed such a beautiful phone environment), but I'll stick to it until it dies (cause money). Farewell Windows 10 on what ever mobile. Bye
  • And I thought Windows 10 was universal Operating System!
  • It is the Core OS is the same. It does not mean they have to run the same build number or branch. The release version of Windows 10 for PC and the insiders version are different branches and it has been like this for the last 2.5 years.
  • any issues from the previous build anyone?
  • Let's not forget that MS needs sales more than anything. So closing support for older ones gives people a reason to fork some more money. Which in turn helps Windows Phone grow. This is a business guys. A falling one... Open your eyes. Buy a new phone or stfu. Non-supporting needy b!itch3s
    Quote: "you can't get something, for nothing..." Applies here.
  • Wich sales they need?
    Samsung S8 MS Edition?
  • Updating for Lumia 830, thanks XDA forums used interop tools had registry trick to think my phone as Nokia 950 XL
  • You didn't need to do that. Just enter insider on fast ring and upgrade it to 15203. Registry tricks is for lumias that didn't get support for Anniversary update. Every x30 +1520 and above can be upgrade it through insiders until the program ends for RS2 (CU)
  • Has anyone here cared to read what Dona is talking about? Goodness me, so much panic.
    Get yourselves a cheap android or a second hand iPhone, and don't panic. It's not dead until they come out and say its dead. Below is the reason she gave for different build numbers. "The biggest difference being that the build number and branch won’t match the builds we will be releasing for PC. This is a result of more work we’re doing to converge code into OneCore – the heart of Windows across PC, tablet, phone, IoT, HoloLens, Xbox and more as we continue to develop new improvements for Windows 10 Mobile and our enterprise customers."
  • My Lumia 950 used to get hot and poor battery life until now with new build 15204. Also checked with bench mark it scored at 78304, that's never been that high with my Lumia 950. My Lumia 830 has last build 15063.138 running perfectly fine with no issue.
  • People with 3 or 4 year old phones need to upgrade to a newer phone. Same thing with the PC my HP dc7900 Core 2 Quad supported Hyper-V in Windows 8.1 and it does not in Windows 10. I wanted to use Hyper-V so I had to purchase a Core i7 PC to carry on using my VM's. Tech changes and what Windows 10 supports changes going forward. Anyone still using a 3 or 4 year old phone has had a good run with it and it's time to change it. My wife has a Galaxy Note 3 and it's stuck on Android 5.1. The branching off of Windows 10 Mobile is not a big deal they are still using the same core OS. When the move to Windows 10 on ARM happens I can see the dropping of support for everything other than new devices and maybe the 950's.
  • Still not seeing this update on my 640 XL. Any ideas?
  • My trusty L640 legitimately does "seem faster" on these last two updates. 👍
  • Hey guys if u dont want Redstone 3 on ur lumia then select release preview ring its safe and u will only get cumulative build s of creators update,that's it!and after official release,u can stop insider program,or continue to Redstone 3 ,depends on you! Thanks
  • Pda potta
  • wow reading the comments felt like when dumbledore died in hald blood prince
  • Thevdeya
  • It's a shame that mobile does not have anything new but they still wants to convince me that older phones wouldn't support it...
  • I am not getting these updates on my phone and pc.....Yeah
    Oh, I forgot....I opted out of Insider Program!
  • Well, it seems with this build there is no longer a Release Preview ring...
  • 2 day no update for my idol 4..
  • Oh well. I will keep my beloved 950 going for a while and see what turns up. Right now my 950 does everything I need it to do, so no point opening my wallet. I would be cautious jumping on board with MS again, if they do release a mobile device with full Windows. WM10 is dead now I am sure, I think the start of it's demise was actually the release of the 950 and 950xl, they should have been premium looking handsets, but were visually quite bland..and the OS just wasn't ready. Needed to hit the ground running, but stumbled and fell over. That said my 950 is my favourite phone ever. I will miss it when the day comes.
  • Can someone tell me what this is please. Click on people , then bottom right ... , select setting and then Get Social Apps. And please explain what " Internal use only " is ?
  • Tried installing 16176 on Dell Inspiron 15 . Aborts upgrade with "Restoring Previous Version." Have tried various recommended workarounds. So far, no luck.
  • Sad...
  • Zac, isn't it because they are converging the code into OneCore, the build numbers are different? Dona did mention that in the blog, that is what I understood at least or perhaps misunderstood. Lack of open communication from MS will hurt them, something they keep on doing time and time again. If they are going to stop Mobile development, they need to be open. If they develop, say nothing and then drop their fans like hot potatoes, there will be backlash, guaranteed. I don't think MS will be able to heal the resentment and animosity. I do feel for the people who have relied heavily on MS for a great mobile phone. I even, invested money on 950/950XL and 2 X3. I should have waited. Future looks extremely bleak for Mobile, looks like it will be buried in a deep trench.
  • Still waiting for it to show up on my Idol.
  • Unbelievable 930/icon still in contract so less than two years old, years of testing bugs, bricked phones, and unusable OS at times and now told unsupported, all very well people saying upgrade but to what??? Clearly time to move to the dark side
  • Alcatel 4S won't accept 15204 update. Anyone else?
  • Mys 640XL won't update to this build, why not?