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Microsoft to retire Zune services on November 15, convert subscribers to Groove Music Pass

Microsoft has started alerting users of the impending retirement of the Zune Music Pass. Alongside the alert, a support document details the transition to the Groove Music Pass and the death of the beloved free 10 tracks per month download. From the Zune retirement FAQ:

As of November 15, 2015, Zune services will be retired. You will no longer be able to stream or download content to your device from the Zune music service. However, Zune devices will still function as music players and any MP3 content that you own on the Zune device will remain there. You'll also be able to transfer music to and from your Zune player.

So, when November 15 rolls around, Zune Music Pass subscribers will be automatically converted over to Groove Music Pass. Microsoft notes that this will occur for monthly subscribers on their next renewal date at a rate of $9.99 per month, while 3-month and annual subscribers will be converted sometime between October and November. It's important to note, however, that Microsoft says 3-month subscribers will be moved to the monthly subscription.

Finally, if users wish to cancel their 3-month or annual subscriptions before their subscription runs out, they may be eligible for a partial refund.

Thanks to Anthony and Franklin for the tips!

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274 Comments
  • ZUNE IS ALIVE?
  • Yeah. Actually was.....it's dead now anyway
  • Wow!!! Thought it was gone a long time ago... Go, damn, figure.
  • I still use it
  • Yes, my wife and I have been using our Zune 80s almost daily since 2007.
  • Really, is it an app, site or the actual device you have?
  • Yes, no, and yes. Zune application, and Zune device. Still the best music player I have ever seen/used. (And will continue to use until it no longer works at all.)
  • Man I miss Zune. It's amazing how far we've fallen since that app. Used to love downloading songs on my PC and syncing to WP while I sleep
  • YAS. Those were the days.
  • Groove is better than Zune, but XBM was pretty bad
  • Dude stop eating paint chips, groove is garbage.
  • Why is it garbage? Is it aesthetics? Honest question. It does all the things a music player is supposed to do: plays, pauses, skips, makes playlists, it has a marketplace, and it syncs pretty darn well with music in my Onedrive.
  • No it isn't and never will be...I had a Zune music pass... And now have annual Xbox music pass that I can't (and haven't been able to) use for three months since Groove Music went live... There is no longer a download button so the subscription is useless... And I paid for this for nothing! Zune was the best
  • I'm not sure I follow your comment completely, but if you are saying there is no way to download tracks on Groove Music, I just wanted to inform you that there is.  Just right click on the album or track and you should see a download button.
  • Groove music pass on Windows 10 mobile is broken. But on the desktop you need to use the app and the Explore function. Click the 'more' button when viewing songs or albums and the option to download will appear.
  • Seriously??? Groove is indeed bit better than XBM but Zune????? There is too many things Groove doesn't have, even WMP is lightyears better. If you're needs is only relying on Groove Service and OneDrive streaming then that's fine, but anything beyond that Groove can't be considered a serious alternative.
  • No Genres, no ability to select phone or streaming on phone version (mobile is running Insider version, so acceptable for now), no ratings (thumbs up minimum). Settings needs more options and to be more intuitive. No genres is absurd as choose your favorite four letter word.
  • No real difference to Xbox music today, I download songs on my phone and it syncs to my PC. It's actually better because I don't have to connect the devices since its done through the cloud setup.
  • You do have a smartphone right, cause I think even the ipods see stupid...and they sold alot of them.
  • I rarely listened to any songs on my phone... 930 has a small battery, and storage are taken mostly by photos.
  • Yes to this. Still the best one, though there are plenty of things they removed that put a damper on it. Referring to the desktop app. I liked the actual player as well.
  • There is a Zune music player app for Windows and, there is a competing device that was retired years ago
  • Search the registry in win10 for Zune and you will see that Groove was set to launch as Zune in Windows10.
  • Haha I was about to comment that I'm surprised they knew it existed to be cancelling it.
  • SPOTIFY? Deezer? Welcome to 2015 :D
  • Still have and use my Zune HD 64GB player and will continue to use it till it dies. I even still have all the APPS on it, so I can still play the original Lucky Lanes Bowling. I love the original the best.
  • Why?
  • Really...
  • Yes. Really.
  • I think maybe MS's fundamental failure to brand and market the product properly meant that many people didn't realise how good it was. I think that also weirdly applies to the current people in charge of the music experience. They just don't understand what the product was and hence don't realise what they have (moronically) systematically destroyed.
  • Yeah. I think most of their people up there mind about money more than the passion to deliver a very good software. And people down the ladder who are very eager and enthusiastic for developing softwares are mandated to follow their big boss' orders. But hey, I might be wrong.
  • About time.
  • :|
  • RIP ZUNE good times.
  • I surprised that still working... In a few months the news will be Microsoft is shutting down the windowsphone project what a shame I really like this OS is superiors of the other but for some reason can't gain followers :/
  • Windows phone is shut down stupid. It's windows 10 mobile now.... Lol ;)
  • Wherever
  • That's quite a leap.
  • It was expected
  • In my opinion zune was never a good music player,instead I always preferred apple's ipod and have been using the 1st gen iPod touch since 2007.
  • In my opinion you never even used a Zune.
  • Definitely. If there was one thing Zune was good at... It was of course playing music. The visuals and the way it managed music was outstanding. No other mp3 player has come close.
  • Hey slim, there's a saying: Opinions are buttholes - everyone's got one, they all stink, and no one cares about yours.
  • There goes my 10 free a month.
  • Indeed my friend. I guess they finally did it...they finally took away my reason for subscribing. Obviously now I have to call and ask for a refund. Hopefully, it won't be a hassle. I still had 8 months left with the 10 songs.
  • Me too buddy :(
    Just recently renewed on July... But, the Zune Pass shall rise into the Sunset; many memories were had.
  • Seeing as I can't actually STREAM MUSIC on Windows Mobile 10 I'll just cancel my subscription too. 
  • So you're using beta software that is by definition not ready for prime time, and then complaining that things don't work? I'd recommend doing a hard reset of your phone. I've done that with both the past two builds and not had any of the random bugs people here keep going on about (most of these say they just upgraded rather than clean installed, too). Groove works incredibly well on my Lumia 735 with W10, and it's the first time since my Lumia 900 I've felt like I have a good music experience on my phone. Might be worth checking your options before you ditch the music collection you've built up with Zune/XBM/Groove.
  • 10 free songs per month? Wow. That's an amazing deal. But you must've known that couldn't last forever.
  • Well it lasted what 8-10 yrs
  • Exactly...
  • It's been 10 years, and it wasn't free, it was $15/month... Guess free with streaming is the way to go now. Anyone know when Groove will get it's groove with better stations and djs and predictions ala Pandora or Spotify?
  • Yep Zune had Channels and you could auto update them for offline listening folks forget data is still not everywhere
  • And it wasn't just 10 free songs per month (when you remembered), it was also 6 devices and not 4. 3 phones and 3 PC's.
  • Well, not exactly free. That plan was $15 per month. Essentially paying $5 for streaming alone (since 10 songs a month could be kept).
  • A lot of songs are $1.29. So $2 for streaming... Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Groove gives 40,000,000 songs a month for $9.99 Just a notch more than 10.
  • Until you stop paying or the label decides they don't want that song streamed anymore, or it can only be had as part of an album or... I've been using my 10 free a month in addition to the streaming free songs.   That's 10 free songs to keep forever and ever. 
  • Yeah, my friend is going to be so pissed. He's been a subscriber since the start and was just bragging last week about how he still gets 10 free songs a month.
  • Haha, I just have mine up a couple months back. I went through on my Pi day subscriptions. I didn't want to give up the 10 keepers but I forgot to use all ten songs every month and needed to save money. For the price of 4 months I have 2 years remaining.
  • Was paying $150 a year for Zune Pass. Best deal ever! 120 mp3 songs for $50 a year.  I still like to own my music, not a fan of subscription only, but $1.30 per song is way too much. I feel this will force me to torrent songs now especially those which don't have streaming rights or require album purchases. I do have Amazon Prime music subscription but I don't think they have an app for Windows phone or Xbox which makes my subscription worthless.
  • NOOOOOOOOOO WHY THE AGONY
  • Zune HD was my go-to MP3 player for a long while. As a former subscriber, writing this brought a little tear to my eye :(
  • Seriously man... So many good memories.
  • Yeah man...i still use it for long drives tho. But I saw the email had to send the tip in. Misery loves company, after all...lol
  • What we all have to miss the most is the fantastic piece of software the Zune player was. With its play counts, social features, auto-playlists and great UI, all gone forever. I doubt we will see any of that barring the UI in Groove.
  • Totally on point. Can't echo this sentiment enough!
  • The ZUNE desktop PC software still is a free download and still works and syncs with (Xbox) music and video.
  • This. I have no idea why they won't implement this into Groove. It's just a music player now. Zune is/(was...*sob*) so much more.
  • I'm sorry, but Xbox music is still a mess, haven't tried Groove yet. I still use, as my daily music driver, my Zune hd32. I work outside, the thing has been punished, and keeps ticking. The accompanying software is still super smooth and great to use. I still can't get Xbox to actual delete a playlist....when I delete it, much less turn off cloud syncing. Shame.
  • Don't expect much out of Groove in it's current state :P, that's not saying it won't improve. But when will it improve? Is THE question in my opinion.
  • I'm not 100% about W10,on PC it just feels like strange can't put my finger on it.
  • Indeed, Groove is still a long way to even reach Zune and WMP awesomeness. Maybe in 2017?  
  • after the next 'Big reset' of Microsoft
  • The whole idea isn't to improve and we think about things improving.  I believe that MS won't be satisfied with any entertainment offerings until you have to Hex-edit in your choice of entertainment.  I truely believe that they think that an interface like the 1990's VI interface is the optimum interface for things like media. I might be joking but if you do some kind of regression on how MS's entertainment UI/UX is trending, it seems to be going exponentially towards the VI Hex-editing route instead of something that flows and makes sense. Maybe they believe that Apple will ditch their iTunes backend in favor of the "superior services" provided by the Groove backend.  Who know?!?! MS has some of the most talented minds at the developer/execution level of things.  There management has no clue how to market, sell or make things usable by direct customers.  Great on the backend but pretty sad on the front end.  Maybe they are still smarting about Microsoft Bob but for having some amazing products like WHS, WMC, and Zune (all of which have gone the way of the Dodo bird) they just don't understand how to reach consumers.  The Xbox line's success was probably an accident but given how they have removed some of the functionality in the XBONE, that could be headed towards Dodo land too.  With extender functionality, I've purchased multiple Xbox 360s for my house and I don't game much at all!!  From a sales and marketing (which MS does not have) standpoint, how isn't that a great thing?!?!  I have no need for more than one XBONE in my house and since I don't game enough, I'm not upgrading. Anyway, MS doesn't get the consumer and given their current approach to things, it doesn't look like they have learned anything.  They come up with some of the best stuff at the technical level but once their management gets ahold of it, it gets ruined. Sorry!  Went a little long on there but I hope folks are installing VI editors so that they can use their Groove Music Pass when Groove 2.0 comes out.  Of course they will probably rename it to OneTunes at that point.
  • I kept thinking your VI standed for 'Virtual Intelligence', like the Mass Effect holographic interaction things. then i figured you ment the text editor... well, we're moving there already. Visual Studio Code settings are a huge JSON file you manually edit with - you guess it - VSCode itself. the transition JSON file => hex binary isn't too far then. I'd better harden my hex conversion skills
  • groove is the exact same garbage just rebranded with a different color scheme. inferior as fuck compared to Zune
  • I actually listen to the Zune HD at work...such a good device and nice battery. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE the auto playlist function. 
  • So they had all this time to figure out what made Zune superior to XBM????there goes the only WinPhone App from the early days the Droid and I-crowd couldn't even touch. The day it was replaced by XBN there must have been lots happy people @ google and Apple.
  • Does Groove have gapless playback yet like Zune?
  • It's one of the highest requested feature on uservoice.
  • Pretty certain it's been that way since Day 1 of Windows Phone in 2010 It's been five years and still nothing
  • SMDH...
  • I thought Microsoft is listening? If so, we have said it a thousand times... WE DON'T WANT ****ING GROOVE GOOD GOD DAMN IT.... WE WANT ZUNE. Do you idiots hear it that time?
  • Zune is fundamentally inferior to Groove because Zune assumes that the PC is the center of your music as opposed to the cloud. Groove is much better IMHO. The problem is that the Groove Music app sucks, not that the service sucks.
  • This^
    Ever since I started using Groove, changing devices stopped being a hassle. All tracks are in one drive.
  • Well, as long as you use a device with groove music on it. Not too long ago I tried to copy music to an USB stick to listen to music in my friends car, but guess what ... of course it did not work because this highly complex procedure is too much for groove ... smh
  • you tried putting subscription songs on a flash drive and got surprised it didnt work on generic car stereo #134141???
  • No. I'm not all that into these subscription things. But I did upload my local library to onedrive so I can enjoy it on all my devices. However it seems like I am not able to copy it onto a USB stick using Groove Music. And thanks to Microsofts removal of smart files in Windows 10 I would have had to navigate to the onedrive website to download my very own songs ... I mean that is quite counter-intuitive if you ask me ... why can't I just sync devices in oldschool Windows Media Player style? Is it really that hard?!
  • Inferior? It would take a week for them to implement cloud support into Zune, yet in six years they haven't been able to implement the 10,000 missing features into this Microsoft Music, Xbox music, Groo....whatever the hell we are calling it now - project.
  • @Jas00555, a person's PC is and will still be their music hub going forward as after all unlimited mobile data is being taken away by pretty much all carriers. Simply because it's profitable to offer data in allotments and not to mention faster the speed the faster your going to eat up your allowance.
    Plus not everyone has unlimited data currently and that number will slowly decrease over time. Furthermore some also have monthly data caps on their broadband connection.
    The cloud maybe a superior platform but in reality it's a more expensive platform.
  • Not really. Good wifi makes whatever device is in your hand your music hub. And when you don't have wifi? That's what offline listening is for. No different than when we used to burn cds to take in the car, really.
  • And that's a problem, Groove Music is basically a music service that meant for cloud only not a music player. So basically when offline or you just don't use Groove service its totally inferior if not totally useless. Like it or not, we are still not in the utopian present where internet connectivity is literally everywhere, let alone being affordable and usable. But yeah indeed Zune client alone circles around Groove app, only WMP is comparable to Zune really. Service? Well that's because Groove is recent so of course the services is aligned to latest trends and needs, but in relative to its time Zune was ahead of its time, even iTunes. This is a problem with Groove Music, it fails to be a proper music player app, yes it works but its too basic. No wonder why WMP is still exist in Windows 10. If there is no Groove Music, there is nothing left special about it and its even inferior, not average.  
  • not to mention it doesn't even let you see DLNA servers on your home network and stream from them. Which WMP does. and quite well
  • Obviously we can't hear text dummy. Shouting in Caps as a comment wont help u at all. Zune is over, just move on.
  • Dummy? You're the one that can't fight out a age old symbolism understood as screaming.
  • the service is great, but means nothing if the execution of the service, which is both the phone app, and desktop app is inferior to its predecessor. Xbox music was a step back when they seperated the app from the OS. Once again, great ideas, terrible execution of ideas. I'd rather have great minimal functionality versus a bunch of nice features that dont work well.
  • Don't worry guys, soon we will get biweekly updates for Groove Music app which will lead to nothing.
  • Before ending Zune, they need to put an option in Groove Music to alter/fetch Metadata easily. I love Zune as a program, and that was a great feature.
  • I totally agree with this. I have been using mp3tag since I stopped using Zune
  • This. Even Xbox music could do that to an extent in windows 8 version.
  • Yeah, its funny that the first Xbox Music in Windows 8 is actually quite better than Groove Music in Windows 10, only if it was snappy. Design-wise it was scaled-down Zune app with horizontal UI (well because thats what Windows 8 is). Now Playing was better looking and refreshing.
  • seriously idk what the hell happened with 8.1 that they just threw away everything out the door
  • Things Microsoft will never do: Get me into Groove Music Pass. The software's awful, the tagging is awful, the UI is poor. Unless they re-integrate Zune's social features (including the forums, badges, listening history, and the rest), then SERIOUSLY overhaul how the software both runs and tags, I'll be sticking with MusicBee. Groove Music is mediocre on W10M. On W10 itself, it's plain bad.
  • Too true
  • I loved badges! I also cheated, and let my Zune play all night long just to pump up my listening numbers
  • Didn't Zune already die? Like twice already?
  • I'm gonna miss my 10 free tracks...but ill be saving $5 a month too, so....silver linings.
  • Have they confirmed that we will no longer be grandfathered on this after the transition?
  • Why not place emphasis on windows phone and music and photography. If ppl won't buy the phone for the "phone" then let them buy it for their cheaper and stylish "ipod" or cheaper and more full featured "camera" just saying
  • iPods are still a thing?
  • Just released a new one in fact it's nice to have your entire collection offline and with a battery that last days
  • For some reason Apple realeased a new one.
  • Yeah, Apple released a 128gb iPod Touch 5th gen recently.
    Apple is smart: they can get pre teens too young to own a smartphone into the iOS ecosystem and apps early. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • It's 6 th generation... Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • There will always be the cheap Windows Phones being sold unlocked on our side. Just use it without a SIM card and it's just like the iPod touch.
  • I've got a uservoice exploring exactly that. Music was top notch, then the Camera and they've let the competition lap them on both already.
  • Microsoft always has a knee jerk reaction to pretty much everything. WP7 was that it focused on music, games and photography. But had nothing of enterprise features that made WM6.x so great. Then WP8 came, music, games and photography slowly moved to background and they started to bring enterprise to the forefront. W10M still continues in that trend. I'm hoping they continue the UI theme in the current photos app and not proceed to plaster the hamburger menu everywhere.
  • I'll still use the software for tagging and editing tracks, and I still use my Zune HD for long drives. So there's still that. The syncing and library functions will still be there. Just not the streaming or purchasing.
  • NOOOOOO!!!!! I have had the 10 free tracks for years and now it's going away :-( I kinda expected it, but wished it not. My wife still uses my Zune music player and sadly the death of the best music service ever is dieing...
  • It is a sad day indeed. Adios Zune Pass, we was great together. But all GOOD THINGS have to come to an end sometime ;(
  • MS YOU STOOPID IDIOTS, YOU BROKE SOMETHING THAT WAS ALLREADY FIXED, THE ZUNE SOFTWARE. AS A WP FAN I HOPE WINDOWS PHONES DIE BECAUSE OF YOUR STUPIDITY AROUND THE ZUNE SOFTWARE. MS GO FUCK YOURSELF, YOU DESERVE TO LOSE MOBILE BECAUSE YOUR JUST TOO STUPID AND IGNORANT AND DONT LISTEN TO YOUR FANS. JUST USE WP AS AN ANDROID SKIN AND GIVE UP ALLREADY. YOUR IDIOTIC BEHAVIOR SCREWED UP THE MUSIC APP AND GAVE WP FANS NO REASON TO STAY WITH YOUR PHONE OS. WHY WOULD WE STAY WITH MOBILE? ON THE HOPES AND DREAMS THAT THE FEATURES OF ZUNE WOULD BECOME THE MUSIC APP? FUCK IT, ILL STAY WITH WINDOWS 10 BUT THIS IS MY LAST GO AROUND WITH YOUR PHONES, AS GOOD AS THEY ARE. I HAVE 2 LINES, ONE WILL BE WP AND ONE WILL BE ANDROID, IF THE MUSIC APP, STAYS THE SAME AS IT IS NOW ILL BE SWITCHING TO ANDROID FOR MOBILE THAT WAY I CAN STILL HAVE GROOVE IF I WANT AND HAVE ANY MUSIC SERVICE, WILL MOVE TO AMAZON, AND JUST BUY A NICE CAMERA FROM SONY. THANKS FOR NOTHING MORONS.
  • Way to not commit to not committing...lol...sorry... Had to...lol
  • Tell us how you really feel. Let it flow...
  • Again, using caps as a comment is tardish, why not speak direct in a normal way to who is in charge of this, share your mind then. U look like a dummy now.
  • Using caps is my way of being just as STOOPID AS MS IS IN TNIS AREA, THEY DONT CARE PLAIN AND SIMPLE....UNLESS YOUR ON IOS OR ANDROID. AND CALLING ME ADUMMY WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING ME SHOWS IGNORANCE, YOU ARE PROBABLY A BLIND FANBOY.
  • But how do you really feel?
  • Ya using profanity and calling people names in all caps usually works really well.
  • I understand...
  • Anyone here think that instead of changing Xbox Music to Groove we could've had Zune back as the name? I feel that's easier than renaming their music service. This is sad to hear nonetheless, I used to love my Zune HD until Windows Phone came along. RIP Zune
  • I don't give a damn what they call it as long as it was the same software as zune
  • Re: Kwajr,
    There are so many comments on User Voice asking for the features of ZUNE. The comments have been there growing for years. Microsoft does not listen. I wonder if the team at Microsoft actually does not care?
  • Well it seems not. Its been requested for years even before Windows 10 name even decided. Not to mention the funny thing is that Xbox Music gradually loose its functionality, which it used to be just a scaled-down Zune. Now its nowhere near in functionality even the Windows XP Media Player is better.
  • Zune was a bad name from the start, and as usual Microsoft's Brand genius ensured it became a joke. It needed to go. Groove unit makes sense to people over 40, not really the target audience they need. I give them no r than 18 months till they change the name yet again. Probably to 'GrooveLive' just to confuse people more.
  • Twerk Music will gain an audience.
  • How does it even a bad name?? Zune was fine, it was just associated as a failure because it didn't gain the proper marketshare and they just decided to kill it, not to mention the media sensationalizing at that time loves bashing it for whatever reason they come-up.
  • Groove is a much better name.
  • Anyone know for real why the Zune software was scrapped for the crappy Xbox music and uber crappy Groove? I still have Zune on my W10 desktop, though no Zune. Man, what a beautiful software. I get the device wasn't profitable, but why scrap then rebuild the program. Why not just rebrand? The only truly baffling (to me) thing MS has done... I know they have tried and failed with other things, bit this one is crazy to me! kernel compatibility?
  • It had to be rebuilt for technical reasons. But the changed IU was a mistake.
  • What technical reason Ms has enough engineers' to figure out how to make it work
  • They have enough engineers to build a planet. C'mon already. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel.
  • yes! this is a question I wish they would tackle here,like straight up ask them why the music app is not as good as Zune, and why don't they make it they way, seems to me thats not a user voice issue, and more of a what they believe is best issue
  • NO ONE KNOWS PROBABLY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THE IPHONE WAS A STUPID IDEA AND LAFFED IT OFF. THE ONLY REASON I GOT A WP WAS FOR ZUNE, AND NOW LIKE THE DUDE WOULD SAY, "THEY FINALLY KILLED IT"
  • This makes me a sad panda
  • Zune desktop is still a great great great music player, with the artists' pics and facts going on as slideshow while playing. Groove is a half baked crippled music player.
  • Agreed.
  • This^
    Compared to Zune, Groove seems rushed. Hopefully it'll mature with time. I'm actually using the Zune desktop right now :-)
  • WE HAVE BEEN HOPING FOR THIS FOR THE LAST 5 YEARS......
  • Dude go away.
  • But ironically, I actually love Groove on W10M :-)
  • It's not bad but give us the features Zune had like auto playlist based on play counts ratings etc and if I dislike a track don't play it I shuffle
  • Agreed. I use the amazing ZUNE software on my SurfacePro2.
  • Well this is interesting, because Microsoft is telling me that my annual Zune contract with 10 diagnose per month will cost $148 US/year.
    If Amazon ever released an app for Windows Phone they would gut Groove Music like a fish.
  • Bye bye music pass. 10 free was only thing keeping me with you.
  • Microsoft is really good at shutting down spectacular software and services in favor of malfunctioning and crappy ones. Zune was one of the best things they made!
  • Were they still making Zunes?? Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • The Zune device production stopped after the introduction of WP7. The software has obivously lived long past the branded devices.
  • The PC software still survives. It's the ZUNE services that have been renamed and changed to something much much less.
  • Zune was their best piece of sftware the last 20 years.R.I.P. XBM ad Groove can't hold a candle to it.
  • I still use the Zune softwatre to play local tracks, Blows iTunes away.
  • I earned my title of ms fanboy for saying it was better than iTunes but seriously, it was. They really hit a homerun with the UI.
  • Ditto. And will continue to use it as long as possible
  • Why can't I rip cds to groove? I still buy cds. Or am I missing something?
  • Yes the fact that most don't buy cds hell a lots of laptops don't even have a drive
  • If you have a Groove Music Pass, then you can upload your songs to a folder called Music in your OneDrive. ;D It'll automatically sync into your Groove collection.
  • I do have a music pass but I'm not sure on keeping it. Just odd that there's no way to rip cds. ITunes still has that functionality. Not a big deal, I just thought I wasn't looking in the right place. I'll just stick to iTunes.
  • Re: DougJspan,
    You can upload your songs to a folder called Music in your OneDrive account and it will sync to your Windows Phone music player, even without a ZUNE "Groove" Music Pass. I did it for my wife.
    Re: Pootbuttlafunk88,
    The ZUNE PC desktop software still works.
  • HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO FIND AN ALBUM IN ONEDRIVE? TRY DOING IT WITH 3000 SONGS....IT MUST LISTS BY FILE NO FOLDER SORTING WHATSOEVER.
  • You are high. All my music is in folders (genre>artist>album) on OneDrive.
  • OneDrive doesn't like uploading folders
  • You can use Windows Media Player, still built into Windows 10, to rip CDs.
  • You would use Windows Media Player for that, but seriously it's a feature they should bake into groove if for no other reason than we wouldn't have to use two different applications.
  • Zune hasn't been updated in years and yet it's still so much better than Groove Music. Microsoft seriously needs to bring back the ability to sync WP with Zune.
  • Zune was a bad name from the start, and as usual Microsoft's Brand genius ensured it became a joke. It needed to go.
    Groove music makes sense to people over 40, not really the target audience they need. I give them no r than 18 months till they change the name yet again. Probably to 'GrooveLive' just to confuse people more.
  • Heard a lot positive about Zune . Maybe MS lack of marketing or commitment killed it, just like Groove will probably end up the same way.
  • That's the thing, Microsoft marketing at that time is pretty weak and Zune availability is also limited, no surprise few people know about it. This is Microsoft is always misinterpreted about some of their great products and services when it didn't gain much users, they thought its overall a bad idea but its just they themselves fails to market it very well. They don't believe their own product and funny when they do, its inferior.
  • Ok but why did you write it twice?
  • My Zune HD is still a good dedicated music player.  My car even recognizes it as a Zune.
     
  • Ford
  • Same here, love it with Ford Sync
  • Me too. I have a Kia with UVO, and it's awesome!
  • Zune is awsome in comparison to god awful Xbox music and groove.
  • and iTunes.
  • Zune was the only MS platform that could play protected content over USB. It worked great with Ford Sync, all my WP/W10M devices say " cannot play protected content over USB" which means I have to rely on BT which has far less control.
  • I download the music I want FREE using MP3 converter apps. Crazy anyone want to subscribe! It only works on WM though. Sad iPhone or android doesn't have. That's what I miss my 1520 the most. iPhone is shit when trying download MP3 songs from your skydrive to the phone over wifi or data.
  • You mean a MP3 downloader app? iOS & Android had those apps for years. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Groove is still not good enough.
  • My Zune halo edition works great but I also used it daily. For about 5 years
  • I wonder if the Zune software will still be functional? I still use my Zune 80 & HD everyday. Long live Zune!   
  • Zune would live among the other legends like winamp. Those are my two greatest players if all time. Speaking of winamp, does anyone remember the MMD3 skin of winamp? The greatest skin of all time!!
  • Yes...library and syncing functions will work. The online services will not.
  • I hope they release the source code to the community so we can still enjoy it. Zune MKP is still the best media player on Windows.
  • They said they lost the source code.
  • ARE YOU SERIOUS? IF TRUE PUT ANOTHER NAIL IN WINDOWS MOBILE COFFIN.
  • lol are you fuckin kidding me
  • 1020% agreed!
  • Where are your priorities Microsoft?  you're going to shut down a functional music service to a music service with less features. the only reason i even use Groove music player, is because it allowed me to still use zune music pass. now with the service being shut down, i might as well jump ship. Since Groove has much much Much LESS features compared to Spotify and Apple music. 
  • I just canceled my subscription. They have pure idiots working in the music devision.
    2006 - 2015 :(​
  • So what happens to all my music I have downloaded to my pc?
  • If its drm copyrighted they won't work anymore (.wma files). If you purchased them (.mp3) then those will always work.
  • I liked the Zune brand, it was more interesting than xbox music or groove. Also Zune app player was one of a kind. If they had maintained its development it could be the best one nowadays and definitely the prettiest!
  • Yeah, agreed. I wonder where the developers went ... they cannot be the same that are developing that embarrassment called groove ...
  • I still love the Zune Music Player for Windows over new Music apps!
  • Zune is still a thing?
  • Will we still be able to stream music from a computer to the Xbox via the Zune software?
  • Now the big question is, when will Windows 10 Mobile get even the limited features on the desktop - Radio, Add to..., explore? Have been a subscriber for a long time and actually love the service, but it is terribly schizophrenic right now.
  • I guess in a weird sorta way, this is good for me. I should now be able to upload my music collection to OneDrive and play it on the XBone without having duplicate issues and whatnot as I'll no longer be a subscriber.
  • How big is your music collection?  Mine is 336GB, with 81,000 music files approximately. How much space do you have in OneDrive?
  • WOW! That's a lot. Mine is only 3500, 20GB. As far as I know you can upload up to 50,00 songs. But I have an Office subscription, so I get one tb of OneDrive included.
  • People still use this???
  • Yes...tons of people still use this. Its not a surprise...its not shocking...and if it is to you, well.......
  • One thing they cannot take away is the radio on my Zune! Muhahahahaha!!!!
  • Sudden software update.... Lol
  • Microsoft keeps kicking me in the dick. Why!? Why do they keep kicking me in the dick!?
      Sigh. If Zune pass subscribers go away, they probably figure some of their harsher critics will go away too. I guess the number of Windows Phone users are so small worries about a mass exodus are practically nil. Now that the Zune pass is essentially the same price as any other offering, it is time to take a good hard look at my options. I have been holding on to my Lumia 925 since it was released. Mainly since it was the only way I could use my Zune Pass (the Zune software is far too slow on my desktop, and ironically it gave me error messages when I attempted to sign in earlier today).  I am on T-Mobile, so it is highly unlikely that I will ever see Cityman and chances are good Talkman will be available thru online puchase only. The soonest I can see the Talkman will be November while the 6S Plus will be here before the end of the month. In another ironic twist, the new iPhone will be cheaper to get on a JUMP upgrade. With the demise of Zune Music Pass, loyalty to the brand is the only reason I have left to stick with Windows. Not only do I have to jump thru hoops to get one, they haven't spelled out exactly why I still want one yet as my existing reasons have killed or are under fire. Sigh. I thought big companies believed that it cost more money to gain a new customer than to keep existing ones happy?
  • "If Zune pass subscribers go away, they probably figure some of their harsher critics will go away too." This is exactly what I was thinking as well. We were a very vocal minority I suppose.
  • Uh oh! No more 10 free MP3s per month? D-:
  • RIP Zune. I give Microsoft a year before Groove Mmsic is shut down and redone and rebranded yet again, due to embarrassingly low consumer take up. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • I still use my Zune HD almost daily and love the software, especially when the album is properly linked to the back-end catalog.    So my questions are: Will the Zune software still display album art, links to the artist BIO, etc (thoes things in the music catalog) and will the Zune Social Tagger (great tool) still work and be able to link to the catalog?  
  • Probably not. Not definite...but it seems all "on line" aspects will be dead.
  • This sucks!!! I'm going to miss my 10 free songs. I guess I'll use that $15 on Hulu. Showtime and commercial free :) Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • If I download a song on Groove. Can I play it using another Music Player? That's why I still download on Zune, cuz I can then use winamp.or JRiver media player to listen to it.
  • No, you cannot. I have tried doing that with Xbox music downloaded songs and those didn't work. I'm 99.9% sure they wouldn't add this to Groove.
  • I can't even play them with Windows Media Player. That's as ridiculous as it gets.
  • You have to find the place it got saved to. Afaik it is in a subfolder of Music called something like Groove Music Cache. These MP3s then have quite cryptic names, but you can identify them because of their metadata.
  • I'm sure everyone is aware that the Groove app is incomplete in Windows 10 Mobile. The explore feature is missing and it is how Music Pass music is added to your account. The streaming radio station feature is also not working.
  • I have a ZuneHD and I use it everyday.  I have a docking station at home and at work.  I also own two older model Zunes.  The Zune software is fantastic.  Sad to see the service go away.  Long live Zune!
  • So you can't download with Groove on PC?
  • You can download Groove pass songs to your PC from the Groove app.  This is limited to a maximum of four registered and compatible devices.  these songs are playable, as long as you keep your Groove Music Pass If you want to purchase songs to keep, then you buy and download them from the App Store
  • I have a Zune HD and a windows 7 phone that I use just for music
  • Still using the original Brownie on a daily basis, attached to an Onkyo A/V system, side note; I have no idea where any of our iPods ended up at ;)
  • And I literally just downloaded my 10 "free" sounds before seeing this article. I like being able to use the credits to clear the DRM off tracks so I can use the music in video editing. Once I loose my "10 free" option, will there still be a way to purchase music from Groove so I can have DRM-free tracks in addition to the stuff I just download with my new 9.99 subscription?
  • will there still be a way to purchase music from Groove so I can have DRM-free tracks in addition to the stuff I just download with my new 9.99 subscription?
      Yes, In Windows 10, the Music Store has been moved to the App Store.  This is where you purchase tracks.  Inside the Groove app is an "Explore" menu item, when you go in there, this is where you find music you can download or stream as a part of your Groove Music Pass.  So just repeating, music that is purchased from the Store is completely DRM free (MP3 format), music downloaded or streamed from inside the Groove Music app, using a Groove Music Pass is DRMed (WMA format)
  • Yes. The only difference is you will be paying for the song out of pocket instead of with a credit.
  • I've never tried Zune, but i can only be better than Groove.
  • I've never tried Zune, but i can only be better than Groove.
    The major advantage of Groove Music is its ability to stream your own music content from the Music folder in OneDrive.  This means that you can play your music on any Windows or Mac computer anywhere in the world that you trust enough to sign into with your Microsoft account.  It also means that you can use any recent Android or iOS device to run the dedicated Groove app.  Groove is built into Windows 10 Mobile devices, including phones. Also a lot of the features that made Zune software great, like the social features, were stripped out years ago.
  • Well, I've tried to use Groove many times now but I give up because it forgets my music. It needs to compile my music every single time, and thats just not something I want to wait for. Its the same problem with the Film and Videos app.
  • There is something definitely wrong with your settings if it is doing that.  You do need to wait up to 30 seconds for the app to log into your Microsoft Account each time you launch it.  I user Groove across 10 windows 10 devices, and 1 Android device, and 1 XBox One, and none of those has that problem you are having.
  • WTS M$! Ive been a loyal zune subscriber since 2008 and brick my device and want me to use an inferior app? Oh and screw me out of my grandfathered 10 songs too? GFY.
  • They were the absolute LAST entity to do so...it isn't easy and times change man, but blame them all you like...as if it was really doing them any good at all supporting the fewer of us than there were Spartans. =[
  • WTS Microsoft! Ive been a loyal zune subscriber since 2008 and brick my device and want me to use an inferior app? Oh and screw me out of my grandfathered 10 songs too? GFY.
  • Why did they not build on Zune but rather made XBM / Groove from scratch? It could've been soo good, but no ... Groove lacks so many simple things, it is not even funny ...
  • Goodbye Zune! We will miss you! Sadly Microsoft kicked you out while this new guy Groove still figuring out what to.  
  • crying rn
  • Still use my Zune 80gb daily to download podcasts and music. Is there a way to transfer files without the Zune software? I'm pretty sure my PC doesn't see the Zune when I connect it without opening up the Zune service app.
  • You'll still be able to sync using the software. Just wont be able to access o line services.
  • Sad day
  • The 10 drm-free monthly songs were the only thing keeping me around. I'll probably drop my Lumia 1520 and get and iPhone 6S and Spotify now. Bad call Microsoft bean counters.
  • I don't think Groove is particulalry bad, particulalry with the latest version.  My major complaint against the Groove app and associated web service is its artificial limitations: At peak Zune usage, I had 169 separate playlists covering a huge variety of musical genres and moods.  Groove is limited to having just 100 playlists maximum.  If you try and create the 101st playlist, Groove throws up an error. With Zune, I also liked to have a "faves" playlist, where I just dumped every song I liked into one mammoth playlist, containing over 4,000 songs.  Groove playlists are limited to a maximum of 1,000 songs.  Try and add the 1,001st song, and Groove throws up an error. In Windows 10 for PC, you can pin the Groove app to the taskbar, just like you can with the Zune app, however the right click player controls directly onto the pinned taskbar item always worked with Zune, and are extremely flaky with Groove The Groove app does not featue a nice mini player app mode.  I used to keep the mini player view of Zune running on my desktop.  Downloading Groove Music Pass songs, and your own content from OneDrive to your local PC is horrible in Groove.  There is no transparaency, and if there is an error for wahtever reason, the error cannot be cleared.  Unlike with Zune where you could see the progress of each individual song download and clear out/fix any that are causing problems.  All you get on Groove is a useless "Download error" notification that can't be cleared.
  • You're right about the limit's, but I think maybe they're still testing out the limits of the API so it doesn't kill the performance even more across the board...although I think they kind of mimic the phone app if you manually shrink the window to its limits, it's sort of like a mini player. Its not the same, but interesting. I have been able to mitigate that error issue by clicking the notification and just going back. Of course if it pops up again, it bears repeating =\
  • I hope they won't retire the software. Actually I always used it since my first Lumia 610, and still is my replacement for Groove.
     
  • Sad day.  I've had Zune since the very first day it came out.  Went from the 4GB each step all the way to a beautiful blue 120GB (with the silver HALO logo on the back) until the HD came out.  I was one of the few practically IMMUNE to the iPod infection and went STRAIGHT to the Zune section in Fry's (which was my playground....I'd work 48 hour shifts at the ambulance station.  Before making the long 1.5 hour drive home for 96 hours off, I'd walk into the Fry's as a zombie, find the nice, big massage chairs and spend a good half hour in them and then...rejuvenated, browse the store for an hour or so and come out with something I really didn't need but absolutely HAD to have.   Damn those chairs.   I just LOVED the Zune players though I was always disappointed with the lack of accessories for them (more on that later). To this day I CONSTANTLY use my Zune HD 32GB player, jammed with music (have thought for a long time to get the 64GB but that was just a bit too expensive and it's more so now as a collector's item) just about every day and have done so for years.  The HD is an elegant form factor and just the right size.  The sound quality was - for as long as I remember comparing to iPods- always superior and the device was really nice.  It does one thing and it does it well:  play your freakin' music    awesomely.  No apps (really, the whole app attempt was lame at best and I'm guilty of having tried it to much dismay), no camera, no gimmicks.  Just....music.  And, to some extent, videos and photos.   I'll say it again...the device was and still is pretty damn nice.  I've had a LOT of MP3 players-including iPods (except the more recent models since 2nd gen Touch) and nothing has come close to me like my Zune.  Well, except my girlfriend.  I have to say that.  She'll get jealous.  You know how it works. One of the things that makes the Zune player shine is the Zune software and the Zune Music Pass.  Ever since it came out, I have been subscribing the $14.99 plan and keeping 10 tracks forever and ever each month is a tremendous value when you realize that you get to download and even stream all you want from Zune.   TEN tracks.  All you can eat.  You know what THAT'S like?  For the price of admission, you can go into King's Table, have forty plates of whatever the hell you want and then go to the kitchen counter and get ten boxes of different pies in special collector's pie tins to take home.   The service in its heyday was fabulous for discovering new music and new talent.  You can still do that to some degree, but not as before.  I really loved the Zune Social.  It was a nice way to interact with other listeners and share music tastes and concepts.   I'll NEVER forget that anonymous friend in Illinois who went by the name of LITTERboxGRINDER and his eclectic taste in instrumental muzak and Menudo. He loved Zune.  He loved Social.  I hated his music.  But I loved the interaction and seeing what he was really into even if it made me shake my head or giggle like someone just walked into the room naked and didn't even know it. As for the tracks...I really love being able to keep 10 tracks every month.  I'm sad to see this go.  I hate subscription plans where you lose all your music if you miss a payment.  Sure, a bunch of my music ont he Zune will disappear if I don't keep paying up but a lot of it STAYS PUT and they can have it when they pry it from my dead, cold fingers. Indeed, it's my (only) go-to player when I'm on my long drives and ....I live over an hour out of town.  You know it...I'm a geek/nerd/technophile stuck out in the country like a boat moored in the desert.  Wait....I have a boat moored in my dry pond in the yard.  Never mind. Let's talk about the Zune SOFTWARE.  What a gorgeous, relatively straightforward interface.  I have iTunes.  Barf.  Now I'm not hating on Apple. I love the iOS ecosystem, my iPhone 4S, my iPad 3 and my iPad Mini 2.  Good integrated devices.  They sound good, for sure, though not as well as the Zune, but good.  However...iTunes is a pain in the ass and it just looks like snail snot (yes, this is a thing.  Don't ask) when put up side-by-side with Zune Software.  And the latter has always been a great instrument to find new stuff, podcasts and videos.    But what makes it work for me is its ability to manage music  and allow me to save music in formats I like.  I loved being  able to find artists that not only inspired but were inspired by the artist you're listening to.  This is software you can actually put up on a big screen somewhere and ENJOY the display while music is playing.  Speaking of that....I remembered in my early Zune vs. iPod wars with a buddy.  One time I dropped my Zune HD into its dock and let music play out through my home theater system...okay ANYTHING can do that....and then...a little bit later into the song, he gawked at my 50" Panasonic Vieira on the wall, asking loudly "A screen save?  A FREAKIN' CONTEXTUAL SCREEN SAVER ON YOUR ZUNE???"   Yeah, that's how I roll, G. Look, I am a LOYAL Zune customer.  I am very unhappy about this.  When MS decided to kill of the Zune brand and did some other stuff, I lost a ton of MS credits.  Yeah, that was one of the few STUPID-ASS things I didn't like about Zune anything: the inane MS "credits" system....what an obfuscated confusing pile of dung that was.  NOBODY creates "points" systems to make things easier for you, the consumers or save you money or make you happy.  Unless you're a female dung beetle.  It's a mind game to squeeze what few cents more you can out of your customer.  And it always hurt.  I'd just throw my hands up in the air and say "Screw it.  This is too confusing.  I'll just buy the track somewhere else where the prices actually have a dollar sign or a cents symbol associated with them....you know....for easy calculation."    Anyway, then they cut back on a lot of features and eventually made finding any of the older albums hard to download and keep tracks from.  Then there was the transition to Xbox Music Pass ,or whatever that was.  I don't have an Xbox.  I have a PS3 and I'm very happy with it.  My friends laugh at me. I hated the implementation of Xbox music.  This meant that you had to have a Windows 8 phone or computer to enjoy music to get the latest and greatest with the new music service.  Again, at the time, I had neither device and I didn't want either, seeing how much they suffered mixed reviews and brought about a lot of disappointment.   I've been happy with Windows 7 and my iOS devices.  Hell, I'm starting to like Windows 10.  I think. Getting to accessories.  I found one speaker dock.  Just one.  And I didn't buy  it.  Ugly.  Next.  Aside from that, the only thing that really mattered was the Zune HD Dock kit.  I still use it to this day. Then there was the confusing customer service and lack of communications.  The former, don't EVEN get me started on.  The latter, well...that, too...suffice it to say that I was being frequently "suddenly notified" of some significant change they were making to Zune....YESTERDAY.    You know what that's been like?  I'll tell you:  when I was a kid waking with my mom and I'd trip over something, crash and burn, in the end looking like Beetle Baily had a run-in with Sarge, Ma would THEN say "Don't trip and fall!"  Yeah, thanks Ma and Microsoft.for that bit of clairvoyance. Saved me a lot of heartache. But one of the BIGGEST heartaches- for reals- was the piss-poor implementation of Zune as a brand and its marketing.   Can anyone say Microsoft KIN?  Fer cryin' out loud....the HEAD of Microsoft was a guy whose roots are in MARKETING.   Remember that really COOL Zune ad on TV with that hot chick and the gorgeous  imagery with rich color or that nice, big ad that took a WHOLE page in the Sunday newspaper?  Yeah, I don't either.   Like the Kin, the Zune suffered TERRIBLE exposure and equally terrible marketing, let alone crappy implementation.   Steve Ballmer had better be wearing some a magical metal jock strap because you know damn good and well where my foot is gonna accidentally slip up and land if we happen to pass by each other on the sidewalk of Chick Hearn Court between Microsoft Theater and Staples Center. Paul Thurrott of the Supersite for Windows some time ago wrote a wonderfully, appropriately-named story called "Zune: The Long, Slow Goodbye".  I love Paul but man, that's one-very informed-depressing read. On the money, though. And it helped us diehard Zune owners get through the first waves of the transition. That was the writing on the wall that Microsoft forgot to break out its box of burnt sienna crayons to do.  Nope.  All Microsoft said to me was "You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here."  Dejected, I turned, resigned to the fact that my precous Zune was on borrowed time.  The parting shot from 1 Redmond Way was "Oh, if it makes you feel better, you can slam the door on your way out." Microsoft, for all its trappings and robust familiarity, is a sad cacophony of "woulda, coulda, shoulda" and missed opportunities.  The Zune was a contender. In every way possible.  Now it's a paperweight.  A nice-looking, good-sounding one.   Though I'd prefer to say "Thanks, Trump", I'd be remiss to not give Microsoft the credit for my music sadness and misery and pain.  Way to represent. Now there's this GROOVE thing.  Remember the Lipstick On a Pig analogy?   I'll leave it at that.  'nuff said. We're just sad statistics, my Zune friends.  But we're PROUD Zune owners.   Ahh...good times and great music.  I'll never forget it.      
  • You should totally get a blog...then link it on comment pages. That's a lot to swallow =[
  • Still use my Zune HD and the Zune software on windows 10. Best thing Microsoft ever made.
  • Despite having moved from the Zune device to the Lumia 930, I still use Zune software today.  Here's how i use it.  1. It's my Music Download tool as Zune is superior to XBM/Groove in searching and downloading music.  2. I use it to create playlists of those downloaded tracks as the playlist feature is superior to XBM/Groove..  3. Once the playlist is created, I use the 8.1 Windows Phone app to copy my playlist to my Lumia 930.  4. I open the playlist on my Lumia 930 and listen to my music without having to worry about streaming it (because the actual music files are on my Lumia).  The music plays faster and i don't incur data charges. 
  • I'm continued to be flabergasted by Microsoft's ability to create the best technology out there, fail to market it correctly, give up on it too soon, and then replace it with substandard options. See XBOX 360, Windows Media Center and Zune for examples.  All three of those have been retired/replaced with options that can't hold a candle to the original. Why!!!!
  • With this announcement, can i still use the Zune software to download tracks?  Even though i now have a Groove Music Pass, i still use the Zune software to search for and download music.
  • So I can't download any content to my Zune hd?
  • Well, Zune is dead for sure, let's see how long will this "Groove Music" last.......Probably it's going to be another Zune.
  • It's sad. After all these years they still can't replicate the awesomeness that was Zune. Everytime I use my Zune HD all I can think is why TF can't they replicate this now. Zune started the whole Metro thing, yes every iteration of Music since has been pretty bad and very much substandard compared to Zune.
  • Well this is infuriating.   Even though i'm on Windows 10, i use the Zune desktop software way more than the Groove app.  I still use my Zune HD at the gym as my daily driver. So does this mean that all the subscription music won't work on my computer or Zune HD anymore?  I guess just the mp3's i've purchased over the last 7 years through Zune as well as my own ripped CD collection are the only songs that will work with my Zune HD i suppose. I guess it's time to delete all the subscription music off my Hard drive.  (or can will Groove Music App play it)?
  • The Zune app was fantastic. what the hell happened.
  • So there is no new music player from MS and the one they have they are dumping... Awesome!
  • This is about the service...
  • They disco'ed the mp3 players in 2011 bud
  • I use my Zune HD 32 to listen to the HD Radio signals in Indy. Love my Zune.
  • Noooo, I love my Zune. I want to keep my Zune services
  • I can only hope this means we'll see some major new features coming to the Groove W10 app in the next couple of months. Particularly in playing/ripping/burning CDs. While I'm all in on digital subscriptions, a lot of people I know aren't, or they at least buy and then burn their digital music to disc for their car journeys etc. Channels/stations could be fun. Curated playlists is a must, with all their competition doing that now. Smart playlists were never a Zune feature but it would be nice to have. WiFi sync of phone and desktop really needs to come back. I shouldn't have to download the same 2GB+ of songs on more than one device, and I shouldn't have to go through file explorer to do anything. Ratings are desperately needed too. How can they recommend music to us if they don't know what our favourite songs/albums/artists are? Cortana needs to know, lol! The UI and UX of the W10 app also needs cleaning up. It's very lacking at the moment. But. For me at least. It works. It does the basics of downloading, playing, and organising music. And so I'm happy enough to stick with it. It would be great to find out who runs it though. Who is in charge of the Groove team? Could Windows Central try and do an interview with them? Seems strange that we have no public facing presence for such a major part of the Microsoft ecosystem. They don't even have a Twitter!
  • Love my Zune 80, i even bought a Zune dock recently.... Still my goto player... It's so much better than ipod in audio quality...sad thing that MS has bad habit of killing excellent products....
  • I'm a MS fanboy but... MS can suck it. :P I love my Zunes. Always have. Well, they better make groove the best goshdarn service AND app in the world because the zune was what kept me tethered. Can't believe I might be looking at other services. I feel... weird. :-o Ah, times change and so must we.
  • *Sigh* someone stole my 32GB Zune HD a 10 months after I got it. Oh, well...so long 10 $2 songs! =[
  • What will happen to my 10 song credits a month I still get and can use on Xbox music on my phone?
  • I love zune actually. I use my Zune daily as my mp3 player for my aux in my car and it is amazing. I wish Microsoft would have kept the Zune name. It sounds better than xbox music and groove music. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Ok, random.  I have a 4 GB Walkman (yep.  I said WALKMAN) that I use to run (it's just the earbuds connected together, so no armband or stuff in my pocket).  Does anyone know if Groove would recognize that as an "acceptable device" as one of the 5 I could "download to"??  I have been paying $9.99 for monthly subscription to music since I got my first Zune in 09, but lately with all the changes I have been using Google Music.  Problem is, even though I pay to rent the music from Google, I can't put it on the walkman, so I have to actually buy everything I want on there.  The way the old Zune software worked, if I rented the music from Zune, I could put them on any device and just sync them once a month, as the software would remove the DLC as long as my payment went through.  I hope that makes sense, and I hope someone knows an answer :)
  • Has Microsoft done ANYTHING smart in the last decade? They are really pissing everyone off with the windows 10 malware,they f'd up by not supporting the windows phones,and now they are killing zune in favor of some BS nobody wants,Mr gates needs to come back and run his company again and fire these asshats,because they are obviously a bunch of yes-men and shoe lickers,no leaders present apparently.Can they at least find out what real music fans want their players to look and function like before presenting us with some new TURD? no thanks,ever since they disabled the visualizer in Zune's software it's been a downward spiral,guess I'm' going to have to go back to hooking up everyone I know with Linux and getting window's new malware off their P.C.s and laptops altogether.