Meet the Nokia "Sirius"; a Windows RT tablet that looks like a giant Lumia

Or license it for free to Nokia. They're the #1 Windows Phone manufacturer and Elop is more or less an MS guy anyway...

doesnt make sense to anyone. MS has to make money from it so they have to charge for it. They can't give Nokia one price and everyone else the normal price. Add to it all RT is garbage. "No compromise" my butt
 

Rubbish.  Nokia's own apps are far, far, far better than anything on iOS. 
 
BTW: Don't mention the maps.

+920 on both. + Here Suite.

I was skeptical about the RT tabs, but am convinced they are not "garbage" but definitely a nich market. My tech-challenged mother who's been clinging to her XP desktop for a decade bought a SurfaceRT with just the touch cover on the last price drop, despite my concerns she may regret RT's limitations, or the touch-typing. And for about a month now she has loved it, and managed to adapt to Win8 without my being around to teach. She's an elementary teacher and her needs were really just "light computing" that an android/iOS tab doesn't handle well, and a 8 Pro device would have been 3x cost or 3x weight that she didn't need. I don't think they need to undercut ipads, but rather continue advertising that it's a lot more than just a content-comsumption device. I'm highly considering one for myself now, pending the results of some testing with RemoteFX vGPU performance under RemoteDesktop (hoping that would satisfy the occasional need for more computing power)

I would be ok with the lack of apps if RT just had a WPCentral app and a Weave app- both working in conjunction with their phone counterparts. Read an article on one device and continue later on the other.

I agree, if they are going to compete with iPad then their tablet story is over.  They need to target android tablets, price little lower than those brand name tablets like Samsung galaxy and higher than unbranded tablets.  Nokia's tablet pricing has to be in-line with Surface RT (last year) to make a successful launch.  A better strategy would be not to focus on secondary camera and operator specific versions.  If they absolutely need to get AT&T and Verizon on board then they should offer both LTE version as well as Wi-Fi only tablet.  They should know who they want to sell these tablets to i.e., consumers or businesses.  I personally don't care for LTE version if it costs $100 less and have to be slave to an operator for 2 years.  Typical consumers doesn't like clicking pictures from tablets except few weirdo.  That's my 2 cents.

It does look extremely slim doesn't it❔

And shady

I don't get it

One person said it looks slim and another replied "and shady". Slim shady.

Maybe slim, but without a full size USB 3 GTFO.
 

Daaamn that design... Imagine an exact matching colour to your Lumia! 

+928

Too bad my Lumia 928 is only white.

+white928
That's where I'm stuck, if I want it to match my 928, or be more colorful...

Pertamax! :)

Asdfasdfassf solar gan:)

Premium!!

Just take my money. 

I already emailed them all of my account numbers last four of my social and mothers maiden name

I just shipped my first born to a random PO Box in hopes they provide me a Sirus ASAP!

Me too!! I even slapped my grandma :)

I'll slap her too, if it'll get me one of those bad boys (sorry, no disrespect meant)

Done and done!

WinRT=meh. Put some Win8 Pro in there and I'll pay attention.

I was thinking the same, nokia or not.. the consumers haven't been to happy with RT so far. [Although thats not entirely MS fault, but they made it to confusing selling RT and PRO side to side]

You seem to forget Windows Phone was hardly moving until Nokia got their hands on it.. With the well known Nokia apps moving to winRT thinks may change quickly.. 
 

Good point. I have a feeling Nokia will put some interesting features in to separate it from other tablets.

Put Pro in there and you will have to at least double the thickness and the price because the intel Haswell chip will require more cooling and will cost more.

+1
I like RT in a tablet better than W8. I'd hate a fan running in my tablet. If I need to work in CAD, I use my laptop

+1

They can always use an Atom chip.

And suck almost as much as Tegra 3.

But is 2 gigs of ram enough to run more serious games like minecraft or the like?

TAKE MY MONEH!!!!!

Agree

Nokia, give us a Win8 pro device!

Agreed.  I'd be all over this if it was running full Windows 8.

Yes, go pro nokia

No one was shouting for MacOSX on the iPad. Microsoft was simply too early in launching RT; they needed more Win8 apps for credibility, which are slowly coming to life.
We have both a Pro and RT Surfaces; the only time I grab my Pro is for Outlook, a problem that will be resolved within weeks.
 

And I never bought an iPad. I'll wait for what will suit my needs, as I've reached the point of being tired of multiple gadgets. I want one computer and one tablet, but the tablet needs to do most of what the computer will do, because to me it will be just a more mobile extension of what the laptop is. Multiple product availability is what it takes to please everyone, because with one single product you will never please all. Choice.

Get the xps 12 from dell; the new one with haswell lasts about 9 hrs plus its a convertible: tablet or ultrabook running win8pro. I love my older one.

Thanks for the suggestion, but having been burned by Dell before, I don't want another one. I've actually been holding out to see what Nokia brings. Not directed at just you, but why is it that someone who knows what he wants and asks for it always gets told what else there is or why what he wants isn't a good choice?

Agreed, I fell for the RT trap once already

It wouldn't be so bad if it had apps right?

^This! Nokia's first foray from phones is RT? They can't be...wait...Serius!

I've been pretty down on RT as well.  But much of that is because I don't like the performance of my Surface.  Honestly, if the Snapdraggon 800 in this thing is powerful enough, my opinion on the entire matter might be different.  And if Nokia is entering the RT market, you can be sure the App situation will improve greatly.

I don't have anything against rt devices for those who want them, but being a developer I find myself rarely in metro, and if I'm going to buy a new device, I want one that will do what I need. If rt fits the need, great. For me it doesn't, and I recognize that no one device will ever fit everyone's need.

Actually that is another good point.  As a fellow developer it confounds me that MS didn't provide a way to deploy applications to RT devices for debugging.  What I would like is for them to port a version of VS Express to RT to let you develop and debug Store Apps.  At the very least, they should provide a way to build and deploy projects to RT devices over USB (or some other method) like they do with WP7/8.

You know you can remote debug, right? The app runs on your RT, and you can debug it via your dev computer just like if it were running locally.

No I did not know this.  How do you do this?  How do you even deploy the app to your RT tablet?

You'll love this then :)
On your RT device, do a web search for Visual Studio 2012 Remote Debugger (or 2013 if you're working on 8.1). You'll find a page full of Visual Studio tools, and near the bottom will be the Remote Debugger for ARM. Download and install that, and then run it.
Then in VS, click the arrow beside the run button and choose 'Remote Device'. You can enter the tablet's IP or let it search the LAN. Then enter your username and password for the tablet and it will start deploying. You'll need to let it install your dev certificate the first time.
From then on debugging works just as if it were local; breakpoints, exceptions, etc. And you can still run the app without the debugger until the certificate runs out, at which time you just deploy it again and the cert is renewed.

true that

I Agree... But this is the 21 century. I need an RT tablet for my living room/den for media consumption, interaction with my TV/Xbox, then a Pro tablet for work/fun, then my desktop for Office/Cad/Graphics. Its all Good and getting better ;-)... inmho

And see? The beauty of choice. ;-) Myself, I only want one device, so it needs to do all I want to do.

I would pick it if I didn't already have a surface.

Same here!! And I only got mine beginning of this month! >.<

So elegant

Can't W8.1 for this and the phablet!

Nice

Time to get a tablet. I've never had a need for one, but I'm sure my wife will love using this as her social media go to device.

Damn, man...if I didn't already have a tablet, I'd be all over this thing in a heartbeat!

Nokia launching with an RT tablet is a bit like them sending out a rescue team for Titanic survivors.

People thought the same about the Lumia 800.

The price is the only issue I see in this device. It should be cheaper than the iPad.

+1. There gonna make the same mistake that Microsoft did with surface rt.

Yep

why does everything have to be cheaper than the iphone or ipad do you not know that most iphone user dont really care about the price, they'd pay and extra 300 to get the first 100, Or spend the night in line when 4hr later you can just walkin and get one. It aint about price ipad was a quality product and now this qualcomm snapdragon one is as well, as some of you guys say shut up and take my money.

Looks great but my concern is the name. "Sirius" I'm not sure if SiriusXM radio will let that fly without a fight

Could be an internal project name for now...I hope so simply because I KNOW SiriusXM WILL fight the name

It's a codename. Every Nokia has a condename and hardware verson RM-xxx or RX-xxx) and the market name.
Sirius among the codenames leakd by Evleaks.

Holy crap! That is some awesome news. This almost makes me regret my purchase of the Surface RT two weeks ago! It would fit perfectly next to my Lumia 920.. Let's see what this tablet will do in the current market. Windows RT isn't exactly a succesful OS at the moment, but I'm sure Nokia is capable of beefing up the popularity of Windows RT with these Tablet beauty's! :)

Get the touch cover that matches your phone. That's what I did.

Yeah, but the touchcover isn't in yellow :(

I'm a little amazed to hear of people still buying the Surface RT. Even if you are fine with RT, I have to think that the 2nd gen of RT tablets is almost upon us.

I'll wait for one with an x86 processor and proper W8 thanks Nokia

Me too, Bay Trail Atom...

We have the same thinking here. If it's on baytrail instead of S800, that would be more interesting.

This. Simple fact: RT is pointless. It's Windows or bust.

Sounds cool, but I'm still holding out for a Surface Pro 2... or whatever it'll be called.

Microsoft should have done a better job of making Windows phone and windows RT share apps, but this tablet will be nice for work with full office and LTE service.

Micro-USB is a bit of a downer - what I love about the Surface is being able to plug in all sorts of USB equipment without having to carry round a dongle thing as well.

May its the charger that uses micro USB??

Lack of unity between the WP, W8, and Surface is something that I am continuously baffled by.

Yeah...Nokia's exclusive app now on tablets.

That's what it needs!

The Surface RT's downfall was that it was too expensive. If it isn't as full featured as Windows 8 and has less app that iPad, you need to compete on price. Let's see if Nokia learned that.

Doesn't sound like it m

I agree. They need to find someway to undercut first. Don't fall into the same trap Microsoft did with Surface RT. If the price is the same as an iPad before adding a keyboard, I don't know how well this will do.

Its looking like the keyboard + tablet will be $500. IMO that isn't bad

True, that's not too bad. I guess that would mean the device itself would be cheaper than an iPad.

Any details on a Win8 Pro device? I don't like what the Win8 RT offers.

I hope it has a kickstand/something to hold it up and some form of attachable keyboard. Liked that about my surface, but the surface was just too thick.

It says shipping with keyboard so no kickstand wouldn't make sense. Surface Pro is to think or RT?

I don't see the point in getting RT when I already have wp, I just want the full w 8 experience, am I missing something about RT??

RT is thinner then the Pro and a lot longer battery life. When using like a tablet in hand the pro feels heavy after a bit the RT doesn't

Does rt do anything wp can't?

RT does have features that WP does not currently have.   In theory, as the platforms merger later on, these differences should disappear.
Even if you just consider the printing/usb support or the desktop Office applications, the larger screen presents itself to more detailed and traditional uses.
 

VPN, network drives, printing. WP may be able to print so not sure on that one. Stream video over network from NAS. Probably more but that's what I do with my RT that my phone can't.

Office and productivity. Remote Desktop, etc.

Hmm none of these features really interest me so I guess I will wait gor a w8 sirius

It's the same reason people get the ipad when they already have an iphone. It's just more pleasant surfing the web, watching video, playing games, etc on a 10" device. For many people, the only real x86 app they use often is Office, which is included with RT. Otherwise, they mostly just browse the web on their laptops. If you intend to use it for more advanced things, then win 8 pro is the way to go.

I am all for this but if they want to make a splash, they must undercut iPad

Ough. RT. LOL

I sold my under powered rt because of the frustration it caused. Snapdragon sounds very interesting. But at that iPad price, not sure if it's worth it. Hopefully they meant iPad mini price

Yes, I sold mine too. When your phone loads WebPages faster than your tablet then you have a problem.

I'll wait to see what's announced, especially price wise.

I am SO ready for this!! Windows 8.1, Nokia RT tablet, Lumia 925 already in my pocket. My money is ready for the taking. If this is paired with what I would imagine to be the standard sensors (GPS, accelerometer, etc.) plus Nokia's apps... This will be an amazing addition to my collection. Already owning a Surface Pro (which some may wonder why I would want/need an RT tablet) I have use for a simple tablet (my Pro is for music creation/work on the go). So, this would be awesome. Being a Nokia fan/buyer I'd be very interested in this.

Waste of money. It should have been a pro

if this is a waste of money then ipad and android tablets are a waste of money look at them they are selling well it doesn't have to be full windows 8 Pro
im in for  RT tablet

So in Europe the price would be around 700€. An iPad with 32Gigs and Cellular costs 729€.
That's way too much for RT even if im concidering giving it a try...

Ooh, I want exactly that but with the new Intel Atom Bay Trail inside and Windows 8.1 instead of RT :D

OMG I'm so gonna get this!

What dont they understand about price? Price is everything! They won't succeed if they sell it matching iPad, unless there is a free keyboard with it. That could possibly work. I really want rt to take off.

IMO apps are everything, unless the price is $150 off the cost of an ipad...

this is just bad. at least nokia dropped in the snapdragon 800 (the tegra 3 and snapdragon s4 just couldn't cut it), but in my opinion they should have just waited, stuck a baytrail in there and made a sweet as w8 tablet. I'm typing this from my surface and until the RT and WP8 get joined together, I don't see RT as a viable platform. Not enough apps. Like Pandora?! Come on, I like to be able to switch out of desktop mode and still have my music playing...

Now the main question: Nokia Sirius tablet or the repriced Surface RT? I can't answer for myself...

NIST is going to looove this❕

You rang?

This stupid idiot on that XB1 in Seattle article pissed me off.. Dumb ass fucker❕❕

Admitedly the pricing is a rumour but how many times have iPad competitors come out with a perfectly decent product but then completely screwed themselves by proudly annoucing pricing inline with Apple's product.
However good the Nokia maybe they are launching on a platform RT that has been generally ignored by the majority of tablet purchasers and against an established heavily used iOS. Not sure how Nokia expect to compete against what will be a new iPad lauched at the same time with massive fanfare and huge promotional budet.

I don't understand why they would enter the tablet market with the woefully unpopular WindowsRT. It's like when MS entered with RT, then lost all of their hype by the time the Pro came out. Seems kind of silly. Will gladly by a Nokia Pro tablet.

This

My guess is their big brother put them up to it. Either way, Nokia has a knack thus far for invigorating "failed" platforms.

RT is a completely different system with 8.1 on it. You should try it.

Priced similar to the iPad? These retards at Nokia and Microsoft just don't get it do they? Nokia is apparently oblivious to the $900 million write off Microsoft made because of Surface RT? A new iPad is most likely coming next month. Good luck selling this Nokia, good luck!

Are you Sirius (blush)

;)

Make it in matte white to match my 1020, please. Oh, and I would like Juniper VPN in RT as promised in the 8.1 presentations. K, thx.

"covered in the new" is some new phrase meaning "it has the smell of newness?"

"As with any Lumia product, one would expect a degree of personalisation regarding colours?" Are you asking or telling?

"covered in the news*"

It's a shame it's RT. 

+pancakes

Nokia, Y DO U H8 ME?
Why don't you give me a Lumia 925 with 32 GB, or with 16 GB + Micro SD? Why don't you give me a Win8 Pro Tablet? I want to give you my money!

If this really true, I'm pretty sure this will be my First tablet ever! I mean, Nokia + Win RT tablet, what could be better? well.. I'll buy it if it's around $400 - $650

RT is the future. Pro is legacy.

Are you Sirius?

No, but I am serious.  Of course RT will eventually replace the Pro when all apps migrate to the Metro interface.  Full Windows will never work right in tablet form.  iOS is based on MacOS, just like RT is based on full Windows.  Eventually there will be one OS and it will be based on RT.

I can agree from the perspective of a consumption device, but its hard to fathom full Windows being all "Metro".. at least I hope not, I very much dislike this trend towards apps (especially on the desktop).

With the classic Windows desktop being further buried in Windows 8.1 it's just a matter of time before all applications move to the Metro interface and the Windows Store.  When this happens classic Windows will be redundant and RT will take over as the defacto Windows.  RT was designed as the eventual replacement to classic Windows. Mark my words.

For me, that will be a sad day.. LONG LIVE THE DESKTOP! lol

I'm of two minds on this.  The Metro interface is better for touch interface tablets and the Classic desktop is *much* better for desktop/mouse setups.  I don't know how MS will reconcile the two issues.
Apple runs MacOS on desktops and iOS on tablets....

It's so buried that they added an option to boot to the desktop.

Metro will never replace the desktop as long as its less productive

I feel that Metro is indeed more productive for touch interface.

Local Staples is selling the Acer W3 for $269.00 in store. If that screen gets upgraded to 1080 IPS and and the cameras get the 5mp and 2mp treatment and it sells for under $300 then its war. A $499 RT product is a smaller niche.

Its a yes from me on one condition. It has to be either cheaper or the same price as the standard surface RT ie £279. Then I'll buy one instead of the surface as a sort of "big brother" to my Lumia 920. If its more expensive I'll just buy the surface RT. Simple really.

Yep! I want that. I have the Surface now, but I think this will be my next tablet

Like I said it could be treated as a "big brother" to your Lumia if the price is right.

Does the rt do anything wp can't?

Ugh. I guess chalk this up as Microsoft's fault if you really don't know.

Not that I'm defending WinRT (cause I think it is useless when you have WinPro), but it still is a superior offering to WP if you compare the two OSes barebones.

Yes, Office in particular. How about remote desktop? I use these two items all the time on my Surface RT. It's pretty cool I can remote into my Azure virtual servers from Starbucks with just a little Surface RT and work on Word/Excel documents.

Tech press will condemn the pricing; Condemn it for attempting to mimic the iPad pricing without a comparable ecosystem.  I wish their first tablets were lower end to boost adoption, but I'm hoping this tablet will be released with a lower-end brethren for that purpose.

Nokia getting on board the Windows RT train will be the best thing to happen to the OS. Ever. Just like they've done with Windows Phone they'll create beautiful hardware unlike anything else out there (I mean just look at it, it's a massive Lumia! If it comes in cyan I don't think I'll be able to stop myself buying one!) and they'll also craft an amazing software and features selection that will differentiate them to any other RT devices.
 
I mean, they've put the sunlight readibility tech on a tablet screen? Amazing! I have that on my 620 and I'm blown away how easy it is to use my phone even in direct blazing sunlight, on a tablet that'll be a great thing. I'm sure the camera's will be pretty great too. I'd expect we'll see other improvements brought over from the Lumia phones too.
 
Software and services wise I'm sure we'll see the HERE suite of apps ported over just like they already did with Nokia Music (and that's a great app, it's better than the Xbox Music app!) and they've got all the deals in place for their exclusive WP apps that give them a foot in the door to getting those apps ported to RT perhaps.
 
I think Microsoft's Surface RTs (I'm assuming they'll release another 10.6" and then an 8.1" too at the 8.1 launch on October 18th) and Nokia's tablets will complement each other very well because they both have very different design philosophies.
 
The only thing that concerns me is the pricing. Nokia and Microsoft must be crazy if they try and compete directly with the iPad AGAIN! Windows RT is still just a tablet, and while the ecosystem and OS are maturing all the time, they need to be building up to competing with the iPad.
 
Right now their bottom up strategy witrh Windows Phone is working amazingly well with the 520 and 620 getting a lot of market share, and that will pay off brilliantly in the future (so long as the Blue update doesn't make any blunders too egrigious) when all these 520/620 users come to upgrade.
 
Just like Windows Phone failed when it tried to take on the iPhone and Galaxy S when it first launched, Windows RT failed to take on the iPad. Even now the high-end Lumia's still don't take on either flagship from the competitors, they are simply there because they need to have high-end offerings and because they can differentiate on features such as the camera.
 
Windows RT is great, with 8.1 and new hardware it'll be a wonderful tablet OS but it's not iOS yet. It's competition is the slew of Android tablets out there from Acer, ASUS, HP, and to a lesser extent, Samsung. Give it a year and I think RT stands a great chance of being able to release an incredibly high-end tablet priced to compete with iPad, but right now they need to be getting RT tablets into consumers' hands and you don't do that by pricing it high-end.
 
They've learned that with Windows Phone so I hope they don't make the same mistake with RT.

I love my 920, but RT just doesn't work for me, the app ecosystem is just not there (try playing MKV files with any reliability) and there is still confusion over tablet vs desktop mode.
I think that W8 on a tablet is superb, but Im waiting for the updated atom CPU's or a ULV haswell as I want x86 compatibility

Eh... RT can play mkv very fine, even with subtitle (at least with all of my mkv), just get the HD mobile player.

299€ and perfect

I siriusly want this device in my Christmas stocking!

Finally, first Win RT device with a 1080p screen! At least Nokia gets that part. One of the things that handicapped RT was the screen, no pen support - even when priced not so low. This should address some of those issues. Good luck Nokia!

I already have a Surface RT that I am perfectly happy with. That said, this is very interesting.

Amazing! While my Surface RT is good, its such a sluggish performer. I'm guessing the Snapdragon 800 chipset blows the Tegra 3 out of the water?

This looks nice but I'm waiting for an 8" FHD tablet :) I hope Nokia does for the RT ecosystem what they've done for Windows Phone, although the ecosystem is doing pretty well for how young it is. 

RT is nice for most, I wish all the success for Sirius! 
Being a power user, I really want the same form factor (or 8inch) with atom processor- for full Windows 8!
Heck if we are talking end game dream machine- skip the rest of the convergence steps- Full Windows 8, 1080p, 5 inch phone! Optional- with mini SD and possibly even an embedded GPU, brushed aluminum body for the high end consumer.
I have 4- 920's and 1- 1020- Love them! Please take my money!

Microsoft should just merge both RT and WP8 that way we can get the same apps accross both platforms and the hardware capabilites of RT on smartphones.

I'll be curious to see the keyboard...hopefully they'll have two types like the Surface.
I have to say I'm not head over heels about the design...but maybe it's because the one in the picture is red and I hate red.
I love the design of the Surface but I'm definitely going to check this one out...but I hope they go lower on the price tag than the iPad. 350€ and I'll buy one even though I don't need another tablet.

As much as I love my Surface, the Surface 2 better step its game up otherwise my next tablet will be this one. Between this, the 6" phablet and the xbox one I will be spending a lot of money this fall.

Its frustrating that its 10.1", I know a lot of people waiting for a 7 or 8" Windows 8 RT or Pro tablet, including me. There are already tons of 10.1" Win8 tablets, make a 7 or 8" one with LTE!!!!!

I would hit this if I didn't already have a Surface RT. Congrats Nokia for being awesome again :)

I hope the name isn't official Sirius as this will definitely pend lawsuit from Sirius XM. And I learn a long time ago I only care for a 7-8 inch tablet and netbooks if it's 10+

By that logic J.K. Rowling could also sue them. And she would have a better chance of success given the popularity of HP.

RT or full win 8?

RT. It says in the article. It's a tablet, not a laptop.

So the Asus Vivo Tab Smart, Acer W510, Dell Latitude 10, Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2 are laptops?

No, they are just a joke.

Just curious... Have you ever tried those gadgets with their "so called" full OS experience? Cause they're suck to me. The only thing I missed so far from them is TELEX typing which RT is lacking now.
Rather than that? I really don't understand why people keep blaming RT... Really, I wonder if I'm using the same surface as they're

What would you call a black version of this tablet???  Sirius Black.... tehehe... Sorry, I had to say it ;) :P

I luled!!  Fantastic Monday Morning Joke!! :p

I won't be surprised if the price is accurate. I believe Moody's just downgraded Nokia's stock again due to cash flow worries. That being the case, they need to keep board members and stockholders happy. Undercutting won't do that. However, undercutting is the only way any Window's tablet is going to sell. Sad but true.
This thing needs to be 300 bucks. That's it. You can't make money until you expand the market and you can't expand the market without selling. They need to bite the bullet, undercut big time and ride the momentum the Lumia line currently has. Momentum only lasts so long.
I know we all have mixed feelings on MS buying Nokia but this is another instance where MS's cash could really help. Got to find a way to really reduce the price of these tablets. It' 1 thing if MS wants to try to price the Surface as a premium product, not smart mind you. But Nokia can't get away with it and Windows tablets can't afford it.

I pretty much need this in my life!

Im torn on this. I really want a Nokia tablet but would prefer full W8. Also for as stated many times already it needs to be cheaper than the iPad.

Anyone knows the tablet used in the series "under the dome", they also use Nokia Windows Phone?

If it was W8 pro i would be excited.
 
But RT!? blech.
 

Will be my first tablet! Oww yeah!!

Gaand faad tablet boss..

$399, I'll put it on my Christmas list. Already preordered 499$ xbone. Can't afford anymore toys. Though phablet is on my list.

I don't know whether to take this sirius?

If it's very fast, like it looks to be, it will be Surface RT out and Nokia tablet in. No need for x86 on a tablet.

So would I be able to connect this on 2G/3G networks and use it as a phone too?

Even though I'm probably gonna buy it, I would've hoped more than a giant Lumia...

I expect Nokia to have a bunch of exclusive apps that will make it more attractive than a Surface. It needs more internal storage space though, since you can't install an app to an SD card.

Guys, the "there aren't enough apps" excuse is getting really lame...

Less apps, more quality would be better IMHO..

No. It's not.
Not when even VLC is not available for RT.
Or WinPhone. Blind fanboy-ism is what's really lame.

Just hope it is not an exlusive carrier thing.

Please make a 8 inch version of it for like, $299.
I don't like 10 inch tablets. Never have, but my Playbook is getting old.

I believe you mean $199. If it's a 7-8" screen then it needs to compete with the Nexus 7.

tense, I want

Out of curiosity, would you people who would take Pro over RT do it mainly because of the desktop view or do you need more computing power in a tablet or do you need full features Windows has to offer?

I wouldn't want to be without Photoshop if I'm going to be carrying a 10" tablet with me. A 7-8" RT tablet would work for me I think.
 
But still, if Lenovo is still going to launch their Miix8 tablet running the new Atom and including a digitiser in October, there's no contest: just as thin and light, same battery life, and the option to install desktop apps is there if you need it.
 
RT's differentiating feature should be price. If they can't compete with the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 on price they've got a struggle ahead...

Nokia needs to price this slightly lower than the comparable iPad. Consumers know the iPad better than they know Win8 tabs. Price it $50 cheaper and that will be enough of a difference for a good number of consumers.

With enough power and software/apps RT would be just perfect. I can't wait to try one.

I really want a win 8 tablet, but not Surface RT :-( Im qualify for the educational offer so can get a surface RT for £133 and still won't as there are just too many compromises to make. Im waiting for the HW refresh and then I will by a new ULV haswell Win 8 Pro tablet as that will be more useful.
I can't understand Nokia's policy to bring an RT tablet out when everyone knows no-one is buying them? It doesn't make sense?

Rt- fail

I don't think they had a choice in this. My guess is that this is part of their contract with Microsoft that they have to release and and help push the RT market. And honestly, if you are Microsoft, I would imagine Nokia is the 1 you want trying to help you with this segment of the market.

i know ppl will complain about the price but this tab will come with a Keyboard and it should be cheaper then the ipad regardless of the apps. this will have more functionality plus a keyboard, the current ipad 32gb is $600 Wifi only, if nokia can make this $100 cheaper its a winner

Microsoft keeps pushing RT , when they are going to understand that they could give it free and people don't want it

No underpowered SoC this time please... Surfail RT is a joke.
 
If it comes with Office I'll get one for sure.

I think RT is a mistake.

Am I the only one here that doesn't feel like this tablet is going to be a fail because it has Windows RT? Seriously people.

I think if anyone can pump life into an OS it would be Nokia :)

$900 million write down, folks. No one made that figure up, that is the actual, real life money amount that Microsoft will lose on RT which should scare any sane CEO away from it.

Not so sure that's a 10" tablet, looks more like 8" to me; If they are targeting the iPad Mini, then $349 would be the target price (or $299 to match the Acer).
What's shown in the pic though is a Verizon-branded tablet with 4G-LTE, so presumably there might be a subsidy to bring that down even lower, maybe $199 pr even (gasp!) $99 on contract?!? Verizon and AT&T could sell a crapload at that pricepoint.
 
Bring in Windows 8.1 tablets a couple hundred bucks higher, also with LTE, and you can sell me several.

"Bring in Windows 8.1 tablets a couple hundred bucks higher, also with LTE, and you can sell me several."
Total agreeement with your statement.  I just hope they introduce a couple of different sizes.   10" is just to huge for today's way of using tablets.

So cool. I'm cool with RT and it's apps. :-)

It looks amazing!

Errr. I think it needs to be a lot less than the iPad to be successful (if it was Windows 8 this would be good pricing Imo).
 
However, everything else about the tablet seems super awesome! It's going to be fast, the display is gonna look awesome, and it looks thin and great in color. I prefer Windows 8 but I can probably live with RT.
 
If only they would slap on a digitizer and stylus then I would definitely buy it! Actually I might end up buying it regardless but that would be an instant buy.

Needs a standard USB port or its no deal for me

Crossing my fingers that Microsoft will somehow outdo this.  (RT digitizer/stylus with 1080p screen and lighter than current iPad 4thGen.)  Also hoping that RT.1 will run a whole lot faster and lighter.

I don't understand this, MS & Nokia are partners so why would Nokia make a tablet when MS already has one for sale? If I'm MS I'm gonna be pissed about it.

Simple: next year, it'll be Nokia left with 700 million in unsold RT tablets instead of Microsoft.
Makes sense, in a Ballmer kinda way.
You can't make this stuff up.

Dude, MS is a software company whereas Nokia is a harware company. Nokia knows how to combine pricing, demand and specs to come up with the right numbers to produce. Also, nowadays prodction is very sophisticated and Just In Time, so they don't run huge inventories. Microsoft (and Google ) is a rookie in this business.

Well, dude, i don't see Google writing down hundreds of millions in unsold garbage...
Or wasting money on three different OSs instead of just going with W8 and WP and integrating them appropriately.
Guess Google was a first-round pick and MS is an undrafted rookie from the bush leagues...
 
Dude.

I'll stick it out till Surface Pro 2 comes out.  As much as I find these ARM tablets to be amusing... they are toys at best.  I'd like to combine my play and business time.  For that I'd like an x86 in my package thank you. 

I like my Surf Rt a lot.  Too bad Nokia doesn't go beyond the fullHD resolution.

8" inch version would be idea.  Not many people buy the full size 10" tablets anymore.  It mostly 7-9" now.   I guess Nokia was force by Microsoft to make a full size version. 
I hope they introduce two or three sizes. 

Coming from a Surface RT owner, MS MUST allow the necessary APIs for the ability of alternate browsers to be developed and published in the store. On some websites, IE on RT is terrible.

Wow...
 
Microsoft writes-off 700 million in unsold Surface RT tablets.
Ergo, let's force Nokia to build a tablet with the useless and stillborn RT, instead of an Atom one with full Win 8.
Bye-bye, Nokia.

They might have other tricks up their sleeve. I for one would rather buy a Nokia hardware than Microsoft hardware. Who knows the different varients they'll make. This is just 1 leak. 

The tegra 3 was a very slow processor for Windows, even a stripped down RT. The Snapdragon 800 clocked at that speed has the floating point and interger performance close to an entry level icore i3 laptop CPU. This thing will be very fast.
 
There are recent surveys that a majority of tablet users prefer keyboards with their tablets., especially buisness/enterprise users.
 
The price is not a problem..... The Surface was heavily marketed with the keyboard. That was a $600 purchase compared to $500 for the ipad 4. Nokia's tablet will likely be priced with the entry level 10" ipad BUT COME WITH A KEYBOARD!!!
 
The reason MS took that huge loss is because they wildly over produced a 10" tablet when 80% of the sales in the tablet space moved to 7-8" tablets. The Google nexus 10 is moving less than 200K a quarter. They also had limited retail and no enterprise channel distribution because they wanted to protect their partners and increase their margins by selling through their limited number of stores.
 
If Nokia comes into this with more realistic expectations of 200-300K per quarter with an initial order of 500K units they will be fine.
 

The first Android tablets were not a runaway success either. I am sure Nokia is getting a sweet software licensing deal. Eventually MS will quit RT market leaving it to Nokia and probably focus on Surface Pro. If there is any company that can drive the cost of manufacturing a tablet down, it is Nokia.

Amazed Nokia bothered with RT. None of the other RT devices are selling well and MS just took a $900m bath on their Surface stock. RT is dying a slow death only being propped up by Balmer and Reller. Its so full of compromises its a joke. Just make a good Windows 8 tablet and move on. The ThinkPad Tablet 2 is beautiful and ticks almost all the boxes (camera is weak and USB limitations). Nokia could do well with this tablet but not with RT.

Uber excited, this could be the RT tablet we've been waiting for! If the keyboard is any good, then Microsoft should admit defeat with the Surface RT, and still to the Pro. Pehraps release a Surface Atom, powered by an Intel Atom processor?

I don't really know RT, but I think what should be the goal, is to unite WP and WinRT. The possibility iPhone/iPad has, where you can install an app on your phone and it appears automatically on your tablet is brilliant.
Also being eble to run the WP apps on RT would solve the problem of lacking apps on RT.
or Pro. That'll work too, then I would have the same programs in the tablet and PC. But three is too many systems.
And do install an GPS on it!!!

RT? Priced in line with the iPad? Dead on arrival.

Just take my $$$$ (As long as there is a Cyan varient like my 920 =)
 

The only way RT will succeed if they are significantly cheaper than "pro" versions.
There is no reason why anyone should settle for a RT tablet, when "pro" version of tablets are available at the same price point. 
I hope Nokia will launch full Win8 Tablets. 
RT suffers from a perception problem as it will always be compared to the full version. Its hard to fight perception.