WhatsApp competitor Telegram Messenger is now available for Windows Phone

It was only last week when we learned that Ngram, an unofficial Telegram Messenger app, would become the official one, receiving approval from the Telegram team. Fast forward a few days and the changeover has now occurred in the Store, as the links to Ngram show the re-branded app as Telegram Messenger Beta v

The whole story started a few months ago when the Telegram team decided to open source their app development in a pseudo-contest, letting numerous Telegram clone apps onto the Store (see app our roundup). Presumably the one that they liked the most becomes re-branded as the official app for Windows Phone. It’s a cool use of the talented Windows Phone developer pool, and we wish more companies would take such opportunities.


Telegram (telegram.org) is a decentralized, cloud-based and encrypted messaging service that promises to be the fastest and most secure out there (it supports RSA 2048 encryption and Diffie–Hellman secure key exchange). It’s supposed to compete with WhatsApp and users of that service will find that Telegram feels very similar. Except it has more features, which is a damning statement about the status of WhatsApp development these days.

If Telegram Beta sounds like something you’ll want to try, just grab the link below. All Windows Phones supported.

Thanks, Zapella T., and others for the tips!

QR: Telegram

Daniel Rubino

Daniel Rubino is the Editor-in-chief of Windows Central, head reviewer, podcast co-host, and analyst. He has been covering Microsoft since 2007 when this site was called WMExperts (and later Windows Phone Central). His interests include Windows, laptops, next-gen computing, and for some reason, watches. Before all this tech stuff, he worked on a Ph.D. in linguistics, watched people sleep (for medical purposes!), and ran the projectors at movie theaters because it was fun.

  • And I thought WhatsApp is back
  • It's possibly time to give up on WhatsApp.
  • I agree... But hundreds of my friends and familiy will have to also agree with that... :/
  • That is certainly a concern. Luckily, if you try this app, it feels a lot like WhatsApp, so transitioning people over, in theory, should be easier (no learning curve).
  • Easier said than done, Dan. Nobody's gonna shift. If they don't upload it again then it's time I'll have to shift to Android :(
  • In general, I agree, but where did all of those WhatsApp users come from ;)
  • And they are will be with Whatsapp for good on other platforms as they are receiving good supports, unlike us on Windows Phone. Are you ready to give up on Windows Phone if none of your friends going to use Telegram? ;)
  • yes, i will give up on windows phone if whatsapp doesnt come to the store again because am the only using telegram and none of my friends and families are using whatsapp.  
  • I tried to market Hike messenger with my friends who use what's app. because notifications were on time and better with hike than that shitty WA... They used hike when chatting with me for few days. Now they are back to WA. That's what happened to telegram few months back in India.
    . They marketed as spam msg on what's app abt telegrams ability to send 1 gb data thru msg. Ppl used it for few days... Now every one is back to WA. But I really like Hike Messenger... Its features are WA and BBM mix...
  • There's that "first in field" phenomena - if you're first to put out a IM app like WhatsApp, then you're gonna have all the users. It's much harder to get new users for a new player or even woo users of the older service.
  • If WhatsApp does not return to WP then the platform is dead, simple as that, I own two Lumias and try every time to convert people to Windows Phone and away from Android, but no matter how much of a fanboy or supporter of Microsoft or WP you might be (or in the case of WPCentral being your job to cover and support it), losign WhatsApp is basically losing every little gain MS has had, it will be a hundred times worse than the Instagram situation. Let's not kid ourselves with Telegram, BBM, Line or any other option, WhatsApp is number one, like it or not, period.
  • Lol, nice bullshit
  • +1 Besides, Telegram has much better security unlike the ever-changing terms of F'book and Co.
  • zzynko: You're bullshit
  • What's BS is not knowing that WhatsApp is weakly encrypted and prone to eavasdropping. http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/02/crypto-weaknesses-in-whatsapp-the-kind-of-stuff-the-nsa-would-love/ I for one have a certain desire for privacy and security even when texting something trivial. That's what Telegram does best, don't want Fbook to slurp my phone book FWIW.
  • They came from this phrase: "it's BBM, but works on any phone". That's a huge word-of-mouth advantage compared to, "It's WhatsApp, but decentralized and encrypted."   I really feel that RIM allowing WhatsApp on the Blackberry was a huge, huge mistake. All those loyal BBM users could gradually transition 1) onto WA, where more of their friends could participate, and then 2) off Blackberry.
  • shift to Android over whatsapp? i thot being that the servers are down mean it aint working across platforms
  • Is not about servers anymore. Have you not been following the news? Whatsapp is withdrawn from Windows Phone store without giving a time line of when it will be back. Craps like this only happens on Windows Phone.
  • If everyone complaining about WhatsApp use it so much surely you had already downloaded it?
  • I agree. I'll get an Lumia 930 in the next 2 weeks. In Germany, we have a law the allows it to return the device within 2 weeks without any reason.  So.. they have 4 weeks to bring back WhatsApp. Otherwise I have to (some jobwise contacts are using WhatsApp, so ... no choice...) return it and buy an Nexus 5... sad, but true. :< I don't like WhatsApp, I would prefer unlimited MMS / SMS plans for everyone. But that is not the reality here in Europe... 
  • Yes, it is
  • Hey, good utilization of the concept Learning curve.. Thanks I have this in my CA syllabus. It will add to my concept. But as telegram goes, it lacks users. Many of my contacts had install Telegram and all most them has last seen of Jan-Feb. Lonely and death! :'(
  • For us, maybe. But for them, why should they switch if they don't have any problem? :3
  • I don't think you know what ur saying there. No WhatsApp is the end for Windows Phone. I am serious. You see it trough the eye of an american. But the US Market is small compared to the european market. And we in europe are using WhatsApp as an standard text app. No WhatsApp is equal to no SMS here. People will sell there phones. WP will loose marketshare in europe & around the world. Yeah, i'm not overplaying. You have no idea how important it is outside from the USA. 
  • *lose It's not that dramatic. Most people who use WhatsApp already have it installed. Microsoft had already said that they are assisting WhatsApp fix the problem.
  • Thank you for the correction. I was absolutley not sure about the "loose/lose thing... ;D   Maybe you are right. But they have to fix it in approx. 2 weeks if they don't want to lose marketshare here in europe. Here is why: People will start to upgrade to 8.1 when the update gets public. Part of the migration is an "redownload/installation" of most of the apps - including WhatsApp. Of course... if the app is not available, the installation will fail.  So ... when MS releases 8.1 for public, sh*t is getting serious ... 
  • And besides, there are people resetting their devices, buying new phones or just uninstalling/reinstalling the app. It's a disaster.
  • This.
  • I live in Europe (Sweden) and I manage perfectly fine without WhatsApp, I use standard SMS and so does my friends. Probably it's because I'm old but I don't see the problem.
  • Maybe. And maybe it's not that popular in Sweden as it is in other european countries. I don't know. Here is an source from the most popular statistics source  for students in germany: http://de.statista.com/infografik/1800/sms-versus-whatsapp/  The graph also shows "normal phones", so the amout of WhatsApp messages is even bigger for "smartphones-only". I hope you see the problem now ... 
  • Most people dont have unlimited sms in europe, especialy if you`re texting someone on a diferent country or from a diferent mobile operator. Whatsapp is so important in many european countries that even some mobile operators are letting us use for free (it wont spend any mobile data from our data plan). Also, i think you`re right about the age thing since the vast majority of whatsapp users are under 40.
  • Yes, it's because you are old. I only use SMS when I text my mother. And I am not that young.
  • I use SMS when I text my son and he's not that old.
  • If you`re worried about windows phone loosing users in europe over whatsaap just wait until the lumia line loses the nokia branding...  
  • Disagree
  • They literally have to click a link and install an app. Not that hard. A lot more work for you to switch phones, that's for sure.
  • Same case happened, when people were migrated to Facebook from Orkut and myspace, but it eventually happened at the end. :D
  • Give up on WhatsApp? What does that mean? Isn't MS working on a fix right now?
  • Of course. And we'll keep waiting, and waiting and...
  • Mines still works and never had a problem.. Im never uninstalling.
  • My Lumia 920 screen developed yellow tint and I was planning to buy a wp again. What's app not showing any sings is making me look into buying droid again. I really love wp, but no what's app is a big deal for me.
  • Bye bye..RIP
  • WhatsApp was developing quickly and steadily. Doesn't make sense for them to exit the Windows Phone scene and give up on it - weird, they'd just stop updating but leave it up if they didn't care.
  • Its  time to Hate wats app not Windows Phone....  
  • Daniel 8.1 is not even officially out as an update, I'm quite confident that by the time it is WhatsApp will be up and running. In the meantime most people who want it already have it installed anyway, and its running perfectly ( at least in my case)
  • We`re windows phone users. We do nothing but wait and wait and wait and in the end get disapointed. Heck, that´s why we´re the "comming soon" OS!
  • There's so many messaging apps better than WhatsApp. I guess telegram is the fastest one. WhatsApp is just an old habit. TIME TO SWITCH! :)
  • Telegram is just a rebranded Whatsapp. Just saying.
  • I guess I'm old, me and everyone I communicate with use actual sms
  • You're not old it just happens that free SMS is a standard in your country unlike everywhere else in the planet
  • me too, I was thinking of asking what the point of whatsapp was, but I see from osamaadam98 that it's all about those countries where you pay for sms...
  • Actually, I'd say they're inspired by WhatsApp, for sure, but the core of encrypted communication is not something at the center of WhatsApp. So security is kind of a big deal for some.
  • Are you going to talk sensitive stuffs over Whatsapp? Even phone lines can be tapped. Who cares really???
  • Daniel pull some strings we all know you'll some how get news on whatsapp for Windows phone
  • Sure but the point is its more secure
  • Hmm, I use the same telegram account for my lap,my tab and my phone. Cant say the same for WA.
  • It's Switching Time!
  • I wont mind dumping WhatsApp for something else .... But how would I convince my Droid loving friends to switch.... Literally my friends laugh at me for sticking to Windows
  • +1520!
  • I have convinced friends to switch to Windows Phone... and I laugh at those who haven't.
  • My point here is switching from WhatsApp and not Android...i actually have made a friend dump android for windows he was skeptic at first but he just loves windows now
  • I tried to convince two friends into dumping their droids and come to WP, and then they saw who much of a crap whatsapp facebook instagram (nevermind the nonexistent top games) were on WP and put me in a fools asylum.
  • I bet those are having the laugh now as we WP users missing a very popular app on the market.... I wouldn't laugh @ the other platform users if I were you when our own platform apps are like crap.
  • Is NEVER about new or old. Is about how many of your friends are using whichever more popular messaging app out there. And not everyone is ready to switch app. My friends tried Line, but they are back to Whatsapp eventually as Whatsapp is still the bigger user base. I would say is time to SWITCH PLATFORM rather.
  • Is it available on Blackberry? Is it available for Asha? Is it even available for S60 based phones? WhatsApp does. And lot's of my contacts still use these kind of phones. Tell them to switch? That's like tell them to buy a new phone, which already done long time ago IF they can afford it. Sadly, they can't. :(
  • The sad truth is, as much as I'm with you, is that more people give up on WP, than WP users give up on whatsapp. Pretty sure it's safe to say, MSFT is more concerned with whatsapp working on WP, than whatsapp is concerned with working on WP
  • Indeed. Furthermore, even if other platforms get Telegrams, those versions of Telegrams will be much well polished than WP versions for sure. Just look at the current Whatsapp and Facebook apps on Windows Phone, designs are so bad. Whatsapp on Android uses different color bubble colors for different receipents, while Whatsapp on WP uses same colors for all people in a group chat. Even Facebook messager is so slow as compared to on Android. Not to mention that apps on Android are receiving updates much more frequent than WP versions, while our Instagram is still in BETA and Flipboard is still nowhere to be found.... Sometimes, I really had enough with Windows Phone.
  • Exactly! from those 500 millions whatsapp users (give or take some) how many are using a WP?! Zuckerberg isn`t losing any sleep over that, that´s for sure.
  • How to give it up when most of my friends who are on Android / iOS are still having strong support from Whatsapp, while only Windows Phone users are suffering? I think is time to give up Windows Phone rather if Whatsapp is not coming back for good.... Same goes for the crappy Facebook app.
  • Totally true and I came from Android, imagine how I feel...
  • Give up WP because of an app or two? Really? There's so many messaging apps and ways to message, its nothing to die for.
  • Except that whatsapp is the one everyone uses. Without whatsapp I dont have access to my friends group conversation, sport club chat, etc. Without whatsapp, WP is gone for (in a matter of years).
  • Everyone uses google apps, the sports bar, strip club, doctors etc, wp is a goner, ( in years). Posted via the WPC App for Android!
  • WP is doomed then. I guess I'll have to consider the Apple iPhone in the near future.
  • On a serious note, if Whatsapp doesnt return then I would seriously consider Apple. I prefer WP but it would no longer be a viable option for me.
  • The key different between those apps and Whatsapp is that Whatsapp is a social platform. The apps you describe are for personal use. You can decide on your own to use alternatives. Besides there are unofficial versions of those apps on WP. Unlike Whatsapp. There are no alternative versions and you cant decide on your own to stop using it if your sport club, friends, project group, etc continues to use it.
  • Why can't you understand that people on other platforms mostly use WhatsApp and very few of them adopt these new messaging apps?
  • No need to explain these ignorant fan boys..We also love WP but without apps a smartphone is nothing..Facebook,whatsapp,skype,instagram all sucks on WP. Even on asha they are better.So what's the use of using a WP? Even many popular games are also not available,but still they will give an excuse its only 3 years...
  • Then leave. Boom...problem solved.
  • A lot of people I know already have.
  • Don't play devil's advocate with people who actually clearly enjoy the platform... You'll just wind up the only one here. Windows Phone NEEDS Whatsapp - simple. Without it, this platform dies.
  • This is the typical reply of a fan boy..... But not everyone can leave as easily as you claim. We are all on contracts. Getting a new phone / paltform will be costly. Said is easier than done dude.
  • Totally!!! I'm not a fan of any platform. I just wanna use the platform I'm comfortable with. But if WP cannot give me that level of comfort, sorry then. I will move to another one which offers the better options than WP.
  • Apps make or break the experience on smartphones for most people. So yeah..
  • WP is practically useless, at least to me, if it is not coming back or receiving anymore updates as compared to other platforms. Is not just about an app or two, is about how I can utilize a platform. If this is were to happen on Android / iOS, I bet those users will have similar reactions too. Other messaging? But none of my other friends use alternative apps because Whatsapp is working like a breeze on their platforms! I will rather give up on a platform in order to stay connected with friends. I'm not a shareholder of MS after all.
  • Yea about time to give up. Fundamental apps will suck forever on windows phone, and even wp8.1 is a buggy mess.
  • Now I think it's time for Microsoft to make Skype working the same way like Whatsapp, and this way quit all these problems.
  • Yeah...good luck with that...  
  • are you using it much more than WhatsApp? i'm trying to get more ppl to transition to it myself
  • Have to admit this is driving me to give up on WP after 2.5 years, lost my phone this weekend so now whatsappless, all my friends use it, plus new people I meet often do, I cant persuade most of Europe to move ;)
  • +620.
    Time to try something new.
  • Is telegram better?
  • Try it and find out. It's only an app.
  • You likely won't be able to find out because you'll have next to no people on the service to chat to. I have 1 contact - whereas Whatsapp has >100.
  • Rudy Huyn should make a WhatsApp app
  • ^^this^^ or as soon as BBM gets released in June (I think) they might have a chance of taking over WhatsApp I have always preferred BBM anyway.
  • WhatsApp doesn't allow 3rd party developers to develop their app.
  • Me too
  • it not back and no one knows when it coming back 
  • I still have never had one person ask me for my What App user name (of course, i don't have one). Not even sure why i would need the service.
  • That's because that's not how it works. It simply looks up your phone number. You don't need to add anyone or vice versa, it just happens. If you have a contact that is on WhatsApp suddenly, you'll see them in WhatsApp. As to why, because you can do much more with this app than just messages. It's also more secure, if you're concerned with the whole NSA thing (you probably should, watch Frontline).
  • ^ Exactly!! We want WhatsApp back!
  • Oh ok, cool. Thanks for the tip. I had no idea, thought it was just a thing the teens were doing.   The first time i heard of it, this Russian lady was wanting me to make a website for her. She wanted to base it on the WhatsApp name because everybody was using it. I had no clue and in her heavy Russian accent she kept saying 'what app' and I just thought she was asking about an app. I'm like "what app?" she says "yes WhatsApp" I say, "what app are you talking about?". Needless to say it was very confusing for a few minutes.  anyway, I'm not an Iranian arms dealer, so the NSA can spy on me all they want :), I just won't be happy about it. And it is concerning that we have no sense of privacy, but I'm skeptical that WhatsApp can actually stop them. 
  • I've got nothing to hide...they will be reading mostly reading messages of "ok", "thanks", and "coming!" from me.
  • WhatsApp does not require a username; it finds contacts based on their phone number. If a contact in your address book uses WhatsApp, they will appear in WhatsApp list. EDIT: Too slow in the draw, Daniel beat me to it lol :)
  • You need friends, for starters. Then those friends with WhatsApp.
  • Well, here in India at least, everyone is in WhatsApp
  • And in most Latin American countries too.
  • Yep. India has a love affair of sorts with WhatsApp. There isn't a single Indian who isn't on it.
  • what's that first part?   FRIENDS?   ah, now I see the reason why I don't give a sh*t about WhatsApp.   I'm first to old for that, and second don't even SMS now that my relationship with my girlfriend went "tits up". got it....
  • How old are you? I'm 35 and have a social life so use it a lot to organise with groups of friends
  • I wonder why... You seem to be such a social easy going guy.
  • To some extent I'm joking, but it also has an aspect of truth.   I'm fifty three and have moved several times in the last few years.   On most things I am really easy going, but I've had enough philosophy classes to be able to note how people rationalize to themselves and so even though I am pretty left politically, I'm not a party line thinker and do no hesitate to call bullshit on the Democrats when I find that appropriate, and some people find that disturbing....   ah, such is life... Once I get a job and find myself an appropriate girlfriend, I'll be good as gold. Speaking of which I am really interested in what Goldfinger is going to be like.   Daniel is pretty impressed by what he's heard.  It sounds like that might be my next phone???
  • Nobody will ask your username for WhatsApp bro.. If they have your cell numbers, they will know if you are using WhatsApp or not..
  • For some reason WhatsApp is stuck syncing new contacts since day before on my l520....its totally useless now...
  • Haha - silly comment :). You don't need a username....that's the whole point ;). A simple, effective SMS replacement.
  • still cant add photos from the camara roll you have to add tem from inside the app,
  • It's a Beta. Take it easy on developers. They're working hard to make your Windows Phone better, not worse.
  • Like WhatsApp did? ;)
  • Haha!
  • Well, I have been plenty patient for WhatsApp, often rooting for them and always covering their updates. But yeah, it gets harder as time goes on.
  • Same here. I've been actively recommending people to Whatsapp in expectation of the much vaunted update being released. It would seem they have just gone full circle on us and pulled the app entirely.
    Given your position as a 1,000lb Gorilla in the world of Windows Phone journalism, do you have direct access to anyone high up in Microsoft? They must be able to give us some insight into what's up (or is that what'sapp?)... If they just gave us any kind of confirmation that Whatsapp would return, it would douse these flames of dissent amongt the WP faithful. We all want the platform to succeed after all....but this Whatsapp situation is making that difficult.
  • Cool! Looking forward to try it! Hopefully alot of my friends will be there toi!
  • 13 friends only .. Compared to 75 friends on whatsapp! I guess I'm good with whatsapp *ohgodwhy* *wpSometimesSucks*
  • My friend list is empty on Telegram, Be happy.
  • Mine too...
  • Mine three... Nada
  • Mine four... Out of 1500 contacts... :(
  • I have more than 1000 contacts all around the world. Only two are on Telegram. Uninstalling.
  • Haha...total contacts 650+... Friends on hike messenger 40+.... Friends on what's app 380+... Cant even think of quitting even though I want to...
  • Do you actually communicate with that many people?
  • They changed everything and forgot to modify the very first line which reads out "Telegram Messenger is an unofficial Telegram" :P
  • The unofficial statement on review app give me some doubts...
  • Good to have Telegram pushing in Windows Phone Store, but Whatsapp is widely used over any cellphone, so Whatsapp and MSFT need to teamup to fix this mess, otherwise we will be out of radar soon in matter of popular apps with this behavior.
  • They already have been working to restore service for WhatsApp on WP. ;) Don't you worry yourself now and breathe!
  • please if they are working on it when it is coming back to the store? i am addicted to whatsapp and i have been missing messages from my friends and families.
  • I wonder if telegram is going to use Files to access the files and send them
  • I got everyone at work, hangouts and iMessage converts, to use Telegram and they love it.
  • It's a great app. The only impediment to adoption is the mere existence of WhatsApp. If it weren't for that, people would be much more excited about this software.
  • I just hope they add voice messages soon so I don't have to run to my laptop to play them.  
  • If you tap "support" ... Telegram opens a new conversation online with "Telegram" haha nice !!!
  • I fucking hate WhatsApp. I hope they rot in hell along with their android and ios apps. This is coming from a sensible and a patient guy. I've had enough.
  • I can't log in here but no problem on migram beta. Still better Whatsapp
  • Yeah migram is way better in features but ngram is faster , i was hoping it would be migram
  • migram have notifications problems in my lumia 920, ngram/telegram have no notif issues.
  • Oh man , well both work fine on my 620 , only one that had notification problems was chatz
  • Heh. I have the same problem while with Migram I can login easily. Still, even though I'm in, there are only 2 of my frieds using Telegram *grin*.
  • I already use Telegram apps since you published an article about. I was using Migram. In that time I tried to convince my friends to also try and only four of them tested. Only one day. Never came back "online"...
  • I got 2 friends only but we always use it
  • Trying to convince friends and family to switch over from WhatsApp but no luck. I like Telegram way better since I can use I on PC as well.
  • Realy, there's a Telegram app on Windows?
  • its an unofficial app but works great. u can send any kind file through it.
  • I like telegram! No issue switching just get it to to speed
  • What's the impact on battery life? WhatsApp is a battery hog.
  • Seems faster
  • Can you pin-protect the app on launch like Mint or CloudSix?
  • Ngram rebranded as "Telegram Beta"? Well, that means it WILL never get registered from #Kuwait. Just downloaded and tried to, when Migram BETA registration was instantaneous and more features ladded!  
  • No video transfer
  • No one in my contact list happens to use telegram. WA and viber still rule.
  • Can't get over the my phone number screen , doesn't accept my number. Damn.
  • This is a stupid question but you did change the country, didn't you?
  • What are the benefits of this/whatsapp over regular SMS other than the encryption?
  • In theory, you can send/do more, like voice messages, media, group chats, etc.
  • I'm more curious what the benefit over FB Messenger is. Wouldn't that be a more universally used system? I've never used WhatsApp so I don't know.
  • I think on every what's app article there is this one guy who cant understand the logic of what's app... Then 4-5 people comment on the advantages... Is it that difficult to understand? what's app is so feature rich that across the globe, telecom companies lost approx $14 billion in sms revenue last year according to a report.
  • Right. But you can do that with FB Messenger as well, and I'd imagine most WhatsApp users have FB. Or do they not?
  • Facebook messenger requires you to be facebook friends. WhatsApp only needs there number. There some people I chat with that I don't want to be facebook friends with
  • Well, I don't know a single person that uses FB chat, and all people I know use Whatsapp. So no, FB chat isn't globally used at all.
  • Yes it is
  • I cant login with this app
  • So, they still didn't update the app description?! I mean in whatever language it is written in (Spanish I think) it's saying non ufficiale (not official) WTH.... Devs got to update the smallest of things.. (at least write the description in English...)
  • Dont work
  • Migram way better don't know how ngram won this contest.
  • Is this only I, but when I go to store the description of the app is written in Italian I guess.
  • Nice one, in the italian store it is in english
  • Works on PC, Mac, Linux, too!
    No fees! No ads! NOT owned by SGroogle or Fakebook!
  • For some reason I'm not able to register my phone number with this telegram app
  • Same here.
  • Can't register any one found a solution
  • Make sure you selected the correct country you live in. I'm going to assume the United States of America. Then be sure to input your full phone number including the area code with no spaces.
  • Very sad, since Migram is simply better.
  • 60 mb such a big app!!!
  • Is WhatsApp not avaible further???
  • Any news about when bbm is coming
  • Its time to shift to android if WhatsApp is not been added to the store.
  • Sad but true.
  • Best idea ever, have fun with your lags
  • When the WhatsApp will return to store???
  • downloaded now hopefully the rest of my family will at least try it
  • reaction was worse than when i suggested we all try WhatsApp
  • WhatsApp fantastic are from India. We are totally dependent on it. We have to keep an alternative. Telegram is best alternative.
  • Try hike... You will forget WA
  • Yes , I use. In Hike, notification for msg and loading of msgs are separate. First we receive notification than after we open hike we get msgs loaded. If on later part if we don't have internet we won't get msg till we connect to internet and open hike again. Don't know y they have such two step system.
  • Let's wait some more, for BBM. I have high hopes for that messaging platform!
  • Don't worry, its coming soon... It's probably coming from Australia on a canoe, along with flipboard.
  • I have already ordered Surface for my Flipboard needs :-)
  • Rather have what's app tbh
  • Smart of them to let the unofficial devs create the app, then brand it as official. Simple and logical solution for smaller companies, and its a win-win.
    goodbye whatsapp!
  • Bye bye whatsapp?! Lol.
  • Yes, and see you never again, whatsapp
  • Lol. Buena suerte me too app. Yes competition is good but this segment is a dead end. Discuss.
  • No matter how feature rich the other messenger apps are what's app is the most popular and most used app. Its really frustrating not having what's app in the store. No wonder WP sales will be down and out because of unavailability of what's app at least in India.
  • Yup, u'r 101% ryt, evn I'm becoming mre frustrated bcz of W'APP..
    they r least bothered abt WP users
    (it includes MS too, they thnk if people of US r nt usng mch of W'APP than the whole world acts in the same way).. What's the matter in keeping BETA version strng whr nly quantum of people uses in cmpre 2 general version..
  • Get a dictionary already.
  • AOL used to be the most popular thing ever. GM was, by far, the biggest automaker. Nokia was, by far, the biggest phone maker. Things change and shift. WhatsApp is on top today, doesn't mean that it won't fall.
  • It seems Chatogram or Migram are better apps and Ngram gets to be the official. That's bs.
  • Yup agreed. Migram is so far ahead in features compared to ngram
  • Yes, but it was slower to load your messages and had notification issues... Ngram has a couple of missing features and photos took a while to load, but it is faster... Even faster than my Android version...
  • But the main thing that doesn't work on "TELEGRAM BETA" (NGRAM) is secret chat. If you create a secret chat with someone and then leave that chat, you cannot go back and see previous conversation or if you'll recieve notification from secret chat and open it, then you can't see any message anymore". It works in Migram, thats why even now i'm using it instead of  so called oficial "TELEGRAM BETA".
  • What's to stop you from using the one you like?
  • Nope. I don't use FB much. Infact since WhatsApp has become more popular my FB usage has declined drastically... I check my fb once a week. + the simplicity of what's app is you don't have to register and have your friends register to use the service. Install the app and you are connected... Personally I love hike messenger as it shows sent delivered and read notifications, it has some indian smilies and stickers, really better polished app for WP and perfect notifications on time. Hike is much better. WA is just tooooo popular to even think dumping it. Its a huge business tool. Not all my customers use fb chat. Not everyone feels comfortable adding me as a fb friend just to chat with me and vice versa. That's the loophole with fb chat.
  • WA right now is too popular too ignore. Just mind boggling that it is taking them this long. Just release the beta version and keep updating as you receive feedback. No need to just pull it out of the store completely.
  • What is Whats up? Happily switched to Telegram.
  • What's up is a slang for how are you or what are you doing right now. WhatsApp is an app for chatting with friends on your phone...
  • Captain obvious has arrived
  • WP just doesn't have large enough user base for developers to invest their time and money. Business wise it does makes sense. There was no way WhatsApp would have pulled this app for this long on android or ios. Imagine the backlash plus google and apple would not let that happen
  • + iPhone 6 and M8
  • And that new LG G3 is also very appealing. Removable battery, micro SD slot... It sure as hell looks way better than that soap box that's supposed to be Nokias high end phone aka Lumia 930.
  • Yeah, too bad it's only cheap plastic infected from spyware
  • They are still actively supporting Symbian! So don't tell us some business imperative as to why they don't support Windows Phone.
    WhatsApp developers are just lazy
  • People seems to use what's popular.
  • Yes, I've noticed that too. I wonder why...
  • y do thy use samsung pic on wpc page ? thy shud have used lumia instead.or is it lumia ? let know plz .
  • FYI it's a Samsung ATIV SE but who gives a shit, it's just there to show a phone with the app installed!!!!
  • Could it be because it's a windows phone, on a windows phone dedicated app?
  • Cool but any news on watsapp??
  • oh yeeeaaahh one million calendar apps other million of photo editing apps and this guys can't hold standard messaging app I used to have in my old no smartphone NOKIA, I'm an 920 owner and heavily thinking in buying a 1520 and I really enjoy how WP gets better bit by bit, the main reason to have a phone is to communicate with people and the people I need to reach is reachable through whatsapp I'm not suppose to start a campaign to convince people to use other apps, when you're in a SOOOOOO far third place in market share you can't let this things happen.
  • Still don't know why no developers have produced a third party WhatsApp. They would have given us a much better feature rich experience
  • Who owns WhatsApp? Google?
  • Nope. Facebook bought them recently...
  • Ah, now I remember. Guess that's why, that zucks...
  • I rather go with telegram which offer more privacy and is not part of facebook
  • Whatsup is from Facebook now
  • I never thought of buying an Android phone cuz I really do the things i need to do on my WP and for me WINDOWS means being productive when you have to however this Wapp situation it might hurt my interests.
    i rarely use it but in my environment is crucial to survive even though I'm a WP fan I should be investigating about an android phone just in case.
  • I can't think of a productive thing one can do on a WP that can't be done on an android or iOS, but then again I don't use my phone for anything remotely productive. Care to enlighten me?
  • First of all the lag, alternatively you can spend you sweet 700€ for a piece of jobs grave
  • Things were working great with WhatsApp on WP until fcukbook bought them. I remember getting updates for WhatsApp almost once a month back then
  • Yea I wonder.. Some complot to kill windows phone..
  • WhatsApp was NEVER good on WP. It's ok but try the android version and see for yourself how much better it is there.
  • I don't care about official apps i couldn't care less, I'm so happy with MyTube, MetroTube etc if there's was a way to come up with a server for whatsapp with a nice UI that'd be NICE.
  • I still don't get it why this app needs the right to access appointments... Can anyone explain?
  • Coz its Russian and they want to know what you doing next weekend... Haha
  • Did you send pictures with Whatsapp? Yes? Cool. WhatsApp can take them and can use them... for whatever. Without asking you for permission!
  • Do you ever sit on the bench in a park picking your nose? Yes? Cool. I can take a picture of you and use it for whatever I want. Paranoid.
  • @Crise is absolutely right, plus where did you come up with this information, seems alot like your picking it out of your ass. Besides WhatsApp wouldn't be interested in pictures of you, they can't "sell" that.
  • Yes they can, they can even sell the one of your ass
  • Good. We have the official app now.
  • You realize that it's the same ago that was "unofficial" yesterday. Literally, the SAME app. Why do you care so much that they slapped the word "official" on it?
  • Because it will receive more attention now. It is the official telegram app on Windows Phone and it was really a great way of doing it, rather than announcing it and introducing it months later or never.
  • Yeah, like all those official updates we get every week for the official Instagram, the Bing CRapps, the official Digitally imported app, the official, vine, LinkedIn, twitter, Skype, etc, etc, etc.
  • Actually, not even that! It still says it's unofficial :-)
  • I just downloaded this Tele$hit and my country is not even listed, competitor My ASS!!!
  • noob telegram cannot send documents
  • -_-
  • File manager is coming soon we can then attach documents
  • Im still trying to understand the purpose of whatsapp when I have texting on my phone. Please explain this to me,ty.
  • Bing it
  • TY, just as i thought app is unnecessary. No loss.
  • I'm sure you have read the reasoning a hundred times on this site. But I'll humour you;
    -Conversational texting, where you can see what the other person is writing & when they've received their messages etc.
    -Unlimited video, picture, audio and location map messages
    -Free worldwide messaging (try sending a conventional text message from your phone to an international contact. It will not be free).
  • Ok, well I don't text internationally and everyone I know has unlimited texting. Being able to see someone replying is the only cool thing.
  • I take it you don't travel at all? You only need WiFi for Whatsapp and similar apps to work...
    Clearly you see no benefit in sending videos and pictures to contact groups....for free?
    Once you use an app like Whatsapp, standard SMS just seems very dated
  • I do travel, but where I usually go there's no wifi and in California,we have great cell service. I have WhatsApp installed but never use it, all my contacts use SMS. I see the appeal but I would rather have candy crush saga than WhatsApp.
  • Fair play. I think the USA situation is quite unique. Your countrymen don't do much in the way of international travelling, and your country is big enough to allow you to travel endlessly without ever leaving your home cell network.
    For the rest of us, it makes sense to use Whatsapp as it eliminates geographical boundaries and overcomes roaming charges etc.
    Incidentally, I went to Barcelona recently. I struggled to get mobile reception in the hotel I stayed in - but did get permanent high speed wireless via the hotels network. There were loads of free hotspots elsewhere too :)
  • To you, maybe
  • I don't really know what your comments mean? Give us some more information so we can see what you're on about...
    Assuming you are European, I am guessing you are unusual in that you don't do much travelling? Roaming costs in the EU - though dropping - are not free. So if/when you travel outside of ?Spain?, you'll unnecessarily pay for texting.
    Whatsapp and others solve that issue. You will probably benefit from it if you are a heavy texter, so give the service a try when it becomes available once more (though given your blunt replies, I dare say you probably don't send many texts at all ;) ...)
  • In Europe SMS is seen as a prehistoric method of texting.
  • Lmao, not at all
  • real friends dont stop contacting each other because something like an app doesnt work and what speaks against installing another messenger additionally?
  • Real people don't stick to phones where they can't contact there friends in the easiest way possible without telling them "hey download this app".
  • Yes, they do
  • From: jan@whatsapp.com
    Sent: ‎27/‎05/‎2014 08:13
    To: Laurence
    Subject: Re: Windows Phone app availability?
    Laurence - Sorry to hear your whole family is running Windows Phone. Have you considered other platforms? thanks
    On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Laurence < > wrote:
    Hi Jan,
    I picked up your email address from the official Whatsapp Twitter account. I am just wondering when you will be releasing an app to the Windows Phone store? It has been TEN days now since you removed the last one (which was functional, if a little buggy). I simply can’t understand why your company hasn’t updated us on the situation?
    My family is almost wholly running Windows Phone devices. We had tried out Viber before - after this debacle (and your absolute lack of communication) - I am of a mind to get my whole family to switch away from Whatsapp…
    I look forward to hearing any information you may have about when Whatsapp will return to the Windows Phone Store
    Thank you,
  • Whatsapp don't give a damn about us. Their app on all platforms is unreliable and buggy.
    I regret getting my family to use Whatsapp - just hope they aren't too entrenched to switch!
    Seriously though, wtf is with these arrogant developers. I think they think the world will be a better place with just two smartphone platforms.
  • I dont know about other continents but most of Asian users(and i've heard most of South American users too) are heavily active on Whatsapp.If the developers at Whatsapp arent too serious about updating their app on Windows Phone Store, Microsoft can and will see a humongous drop in the sales of their Lumia devices here in the coming quarter.
  • Lets rephrase simply to:
    No WhatsApp is the worldwide death of Windows phone.
    Great timing now, because right now it takes all momentum away that wp8.1 could generate.
  • Sad, but likely true.
    Hmmm...now tell me again, which Android phone has a camera that competes with the 1020? It may be time to start having a look :(
  • Hahhahaha nice one
  • If they don't get Whatsapp back to the store, then they may as well pull down the shutters and shut up their Windows Phone shop.
    Growth on the platform is too fragile....and the position too vulnerable. If Whatsapp disappears, so will the user base IMO.
    Sad times
  • What an arrogant response from the devs, I'd send an arrogant one back asking why I should switch platforms just to use their shitty app!!!
  • Haha, I probably should have taken your approach. This was my reply;
    From: Laurence Smith
    Sent: ‎27/‎05/‎2014 10:21
    To: Jan Koum
    Subject: RE: Windows Phone app availability?
    Hi Jan,
    I wouldn't be sorry....we've the best camera, offline navigation and music experience of any smartphone. It's just a shame that Whatsapp is such a poor excuse for an app.
    I am pretty amazed by your reply - though it does explain why your company hasn't released a half decent Whatsapp client.
    I have sent your reply and my original email to WPCentral as a 'news tip'. Hopefully they'll pick it up and run with it. Companies like yours that try and stifle competition deserve to have their wings clipped. I for one will be taking this as reason enough to get my family to use Viber (which, may I add, works better than Whatsapp, has voice calls AND can be used on multiple platforms at the same time)...
    Cheers for the illuminating reply,
    Sent from my Windows Phone
  • Nah, this is a better response than I would have come up with. I love the default signature at the end of the email though, Sent from my Windows Phone.
  • I often think about changing that signature. I figure I'll do so when Windows Phone is ahead of iOS in Europe :).
    Going back to Whatsapp, I still cannot believe that an app that purports to be a cross platform messaging service is essentially acting as king maker in the smartphone battle. It doesn't make sense to me. Software monopolies tend to abuse their market position; so if Google become THE smartphone platform, you can bet that they will make moves to milk the potential cash cow that is their app store. Whatsapp should be promoting competition and diversity in the smartphone space. They have buckets full of cash. I can only assume their recent behaviour is because of some anti-Microsoft bias. Either way, it's annoying!
  • Well, I was a little more angry, so here is my letter and the answer (sic!):   2014-05-28 16:54 GMT+04:00 Jan Koum: Relax - you'll be feeling better. (Translated from Russian) On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:18 AM:
    >> From: Jan Coum [wpcentral link] >> Sent: ‎27/‎05/‎2014 08:13
    >> To: Laurence
    >> Subject: Re: Windows Phone app availability?
    >> Laurence - Sorry to hear your whole family is running Windows Phone. Have you considered other platforms? thanks So you think it's normal to suggest people to change the platform (in fact, buy a new phone and change all the ecosystem) just because of your lazy asses and just one app among a number of similar? Does Microsoft know what you are suggesting while they are working with you to fix your lazyness, you traitors?
  • I would have given you the exact same answer.
  • Best message app available, converted nearly all the contacts I use to telegram, security is paramount and this app is perfect, it is quick and effective, must have app for any platform
  • It's now what...12 days already? 13? Lost track of count. Whatsapp should get a big fine for this. It's unacceptable. I was wondering. Let's say iOS had this exact "major" bug with Whatsapp... And Whatsapp is not available in the Apple Store. For 2 weeks. I really wonder what would happen then. I'm seriously curious.
  • I think it's time for Microsoft to make Skype working the same way like Whatsapp, and this way quit all these problems.
  • Been yelling this for months, but no, MS is stupid as ever. Nobody will use Skype in 2 years anymore.
  • you can try fortune telling, nah you would fail
  • So I just went to download the Telegram app via the store using search. There are dozens of Telegram things - none of which are the official app.
    When I finally find the app, the description is in Spanish!
    Not a good first impression (WP Store UK)
  • It actually Italian
  • Whoops....read the first few words and figures it was Spanish.
  • I just installed Telegram...
    I have ONE contact! Haha! & he was last online in February!
    My Whatsapp has 107 contacts....
    Talk about an uphill battle!
  • Not having Whatsapp will be a deal breaker for many thinking of purchasing a WP for the first time, or those thinking of upgrading their existing WP.
    To suggest that all your contracts transfer to a different messaging system is asinine! This is a very damaging state of affairs, they should release the App warts an all and just push through updates on a regular basis. After all the Xbox music app is one of the worst music apps to ever have the misfortune to grace any smart phone platform in the last four years and that has not been pulled. Ditto for the croc of crap that is the Facebook app
  • Is not Microsoft's app to release. You need to take your complain to WhatsApp.
  • Microsoft should have bought WhatsApp but MS is fucking stupid and always late in the game. They don't realize, no WhatsApp is certain death of windows phone. They could have merged WhatsApp and Skype and rule the worldwide messaging and VoIP activity.
  • I know I'm old but seriously, what's wrong with calling and texting people? Please don't tell that you can't afford it because it's hard to believe after you spent hundreds of dollars on brand new, state of art piece of technology which any of nokia smartphone is...
  • You've jumped to the wrong conclusions here....
    Most of us use Whatsapp because we want interactive texting experiences (Whatsapp displays when the other person is online/when they are typing). I personally also have lots of friends that live in different parts of the world. No SMS plan gives free or even cheap messaging to such people. Whatsapp is unlimited and free...
    Then factor in the ability to create group conversations, and send videos, pictures and location maps....
    I think you're getting the idea here ;). Most of us have a WiFi connection even when we have no mobile signal. Whatsapp is more versatile.
    Having said that, at least SMS just works. Using Whatsapp means we have to rely on that poor excuse for an app development team. I mean seriously - they have just been swamped with billions of Facebook dollars.....why don't they invest it and cement their position as THE SMS alternative.
  • Come live outside the US and you'll know. SMS is considered a prehistoric messaging platform here.
  • Again? No it's not
  • Not all people spend hundreds of dollars on a phone. Oh nevermind...
  • By the headline of this article it seems writer wants us to switch to Telegram
  • A few months later when Telegram will start to suck he'll ask you to switch to another competing service. Because forcing the 50-100 people on WhatsApp to an app no one uses is just so feasable/possible.
  • Telegram secure? Lol
    I'll wait for BBM on WP Posted via Windows Phone Central App
  • If they'll ever release BBM. It's 3 months and nothing is happening.
  • Pull out a chair, better yet, pull out a couch.
  • You really think bbm is more secure than telegram? Or whatsapp? Or line for that matter? Lmao users these days
  • ZERO peoples numbers in my phone are associated with this app. Ouch!
  • Haha....I have one :). My Whatsapl has 107!
    Damn those Whatsapp developers - for creating THE instant messaging platform....and then deserting us.
    Hopefully it'll all just turn out to be a bad dream because otherwise, Windows Phone is DOA.
    (Sounds ridiculous - but I just don't see people switching to a platform that leaves them less connected)
  • Bcz of bl**dy W'APP NOKIA's Goodwill has & is being suffered..
    In India people do trust NOKIA frm many years..
    We hv grown up using & seeing NOKIA all over in the environment..
    Bt bcz of Negligence of MS & W'APP, NOKIA is sufferng hatred as W'APP is widely used here..
    nw MS being holder of NOKIA, will hv 2 pay fr it, if this issue continues in future..
  • I wouldn't call Nokia negligent. They've been working with WhatsApp since the Symbian era, and they were working with them last year as I remember. WhatsApp is the only one to blame for this, and I think there are some kind of "political" reasons behind this because this whole situation is just unbelievable.
  • Lel, Daniel also tired on WhatsApp! :| they're kidding us!
  • Aha got official telegram...but no friends....so exciting ahhh...still confused whether to hate Windows phone or WhatsApp....
  • Am I the only one having notification issues on this. Whatsapp worked fine for me while I was india but crapped out when i reached back to the UAE. Tried telegram. Think its way better than whatsapp but the notifications suck big time.
  • *itches be trippin over WhatsApp again. Drama queens act like its the end of the world. No Mather how many time someone says "Be patient" u guys still run and flip flopping the arms around like grunts from halo when they are scared. WHATSAPP FIX IS COMING DAMMIT!
  • Lmao
  • Assholes be trippin over bitches trippin over whatsapp...
  • I'm not sure if this is a known issue, but pictures from my contacts in a different country doesn't load and vice versa. While contacts in the same country are fine. Is a a fix for this?
  • I wrote an email to whatsapp customer care about plan to publish it in windows phone, they replied back that it will take minimum couple of weeks to fix the issues so wait till 2nd week of June
  • Interesting to see how quick an app can be developed and on the store if they only want! Or does anybody think this happened just accidentially shortly after WhatsApp was pulled of the store.... ;-) So there are other reasons why some apps still missing from the Windows phone store.
  • This app was on the store for months, just got made official recently ;) it was originally made by a 3rd party dev. Believe me app development takes a while
  • Can any one clarify this: Isn't Telegram owned by the guys that created VK (VKontakt) - the guys that allegedly had to sell their shares to Mail.RU because they were getting kicked about by the Russian govt into giving personal details about Ukrainian rebels - the ones now part of a legally elected government?
    I understand Telegram is incorporated in Berlin (Germany) now so... Is that better?
    Is this service even safe? I know there can be end to end encryption but most normal traffic will go through company servers and who knows if there are backdoors there?
    Any ideas? Daniel?
  • Lolwut?
  • It seems faster than before (really)
  • Been sending my friends in whatsapp to use telegram, if they are your real friend they will install it.
  • If they are real friends they'll tell you to go drown on a puddle.
  • I can't quite work out whether you are trying to contribute something meaningful in the various comments you are writing, or whether you are just trolling? Do you actually own a Windows Phone? Do you use Whatsapp?
  • They would do that if they were ignorant assholes like you
  • I hope i can control the font size like how WeChat allowed us to... Owh btw, switch to this over Whatsapp??? Maybe no, because hundreds of my friends are using Whatsapp. I can count how many smses i sent out in within a month, thanks to Whatsapp... Btw, alternatives are always welcome...
  • Impressive, can't even register through the app, and the description is in Italian or Spanish.. And this is now an official app? Ahh now I remember why WP are struggling in the market..
  • No wide tile :(
  • Decided to try it, it doesn't have my country listed which means this app sucks.
  • Good thing that I don't use WhatsApp and I have no plans of using it even it comes back to WP. Me and my friends are already good with WeChat and Viber (but Viber sucks in WP)
  • I hope they implement wide tile support soon. For me this App already switch the place on my start screen where I used to have WhatsApp pinned. ;)
  • I've been using Line recently. Lovely app and much faster than whatsapp and facebook messenger. Accurate notifications as well and no audio bug when in chat.
  • It should be instant. It's quite slow.
  • I've installed Telegram and have messaged my WhatsApp friends telling them I've moved over. If they install the app then they're real friends. If they don't it's an opportunity to cull. I'm happy with that. After all, it's doesn't cost them anything.
  • Congratulations!! You are now officially nominated to the dumbest comment of 2014 award.
    I think you have a chance of grabbing that much coveted prize.
  • Ah - I should have read this comment before replying to your other one. Turns out you are just trolling. Not sure why though....it doesn't really benefit anyone!
  • I don't understand. If a friend started using another app which was free I'd install it if I cared about them. Have done that in the past with Viber, SnapChat, Skype etc.. We do tend to collect a lot of contacts - on Facebook I sometimes go through and see who hasn't interacted with me in a long while, even by 'liking' something I've posted, then I unfriend them - and I'd expect them to do the same with me. How is that dumb?
  • That's yours dude and it will forever be
  • So if you tell your friends to carve your name into them and they don't they are not your friends anymore?
  • Terrible analogy...
    Like, seriously bad! #tryharder
  • Really..How sad
  • What are you...12?
  • Me and about 10 good friends use it. I Hope they keep up with the Updates :)
  • Like Whatsapp "except it has more features"... Like what? From what I see it's exactly like Whatsapp.
  • I have a what's app beta Url but I can't install is saw you can buy this app why plz tel.me
  • No whatsapp is not the end of the world. Just install any darn app and see who uses it. The message we sent is more important than the app we use....
  • Sorry but the app is more important. People have their own preferences. Windows phone is junk and no sight trying to keep up with other OS.
  • If you here only to troll, not buying it! Go sell your crap thoughts somewhere else!
  • Not if the people you want to send the message to are not on the app!
  • Is Anyone having troubles logging in? When I put my number to set-up, it keeps waiting (dot progress bat at top of the screen) for ever. Any help?
  • Yet again another app that is close to useless on windows phone, used telegram on my iPhone and now compare the same app on both windows phone and iPhone, it works, feels, looks better on iPhone. Been so long since they removed WhatsApp from the store until now no update on it coming back,just shows developers are having hard time to get their apps to work on windows phone. I really think Microsoft will never ever in our life time come close to iPhone or android.
  • Telegram is gone! Viber still working and whatsapp, but the OS freezes too often, maybe the 512 MB ram? Waiting for the Nokia x2, given up on WP.
  • No its just Windows phone, its wack to the last, just get rid of WP and get anything with android or iphone
  • LOL @ WhatsApp competitor. WhatsApp has no competitor, just like Facebook or Twitter have no competitors. If there's no WhatsApp on WP, you kiss this OS goodbye in India/Europe.
  • Well said!
  • +1520!!
  • According to Telegram, Dominican Republic is not a country, and it's not included in the country list. WTF?!?!?
  • My friend is time for us to ditch WP once and for all.
  • Why does WhatsApp stay so unsocial and bot respond. WhatsApp has done a revolution up here in India. Even the most introverts stay quite active. I think WhatsApp employees are the only ones who don't use their app. Just not giving any information on re-release
    Guys I am ready to pay you your 1$ but get it back.
  • Can you send full videos using this app, unlike WhatsApp where you can only upload 16 MB?
  • Whyy... Just whyy.. Other companies don't act as Telegram did. Hold a competition to build their app. And, choose the best one.
  • Having just installed this and the windows pc version, all I can say is WOW. Runs faultless on my 925 and my pc and automatically and instantly updates the other device. Goodbye whatsapp
  • I guess WP is a goner without WhatsApp.
  • See, I use other services like Voxer, Skype, Line, KiK and ooVoo. I have WhatsApp, but none of my friends are on there. And Skype is perfect for me. The app I love personally exactly how it is. Still can make calls, SMS, IM, and video calling just fine. Telegram...meh I have what I need. :)
  • Yep... Another texting and fake social app. Still wonder why did this kind of app become more and more crowed. I rather just pick up my phone, call them for an appointment and meet them there.
  • I was reading all of the comments and gradually I started thinking, "well now is probably the time to switch to another platform".. So I started looking at the LG G3 and other phones available for Android (because Apple is out of the question for me, I just do not like how Apple work, they force you into a path and you can't configure of customize stuff the way you like).. Then I remembered why I left the Android platform. All the problems I experienced 2 years ago are probably not even there anymore or are different. There were many versions of Android out that would work just on a given phone, it was slow, it would "eat" through my batteries fast, the cameras were bad, the phones would require regular restarts.... I mean, Windows Phone is not without it's problems that is for sure. There are still issues with 8.1 that will be fixed. But what really makes me like this platform is that it is different, it is fast, I like the tiles, I like how easy it is to make a backup and Restore everything on another device. I like the camera, I like the Nokia Here Drive+.. I like how Microsoft is doing better business now, much more open and they play along with everyone unlike Google and some other companies. Microsoft is not without its faults and Microsoft have done stuff I didn't like in the past.. Microsoft is a bit slow to react but I also understand they have a lot going on, and it is not as easy I guess to react like a smaller company does or a company that does not have all these different softwares and hardwares to maintain. Although many of you raise important points and issues regarding why Whatsapp might affect the growth of the Windows Phone, and it might even affect me if every I need to reinstall and Whatsapp is not yet available in the store........ Am I really willing to give it up just now? Change one problem for another? From what I have seen, sure Whatsapp and all those other "premium" apps for iOS and Android have more features but they also have a lot of bugs from what I have been told.. I can't confirm that since I do not use Android anymore.. But really, there are alternatives. Sure, not all your contacts will switch.. But for those who even claim to do business on whatsapp, of course that is your choice, but I would never talk sensitive stuff on whatsapp, you do not know what Facebook is doing with your data. This is true with all other medias like gmail and outlook.com sure. But if you do business, you can still do it through email. If your business partners are in another country, surely they will understand you cannot use Whatsapp and there are alternatives that can be used. Business is not going to stop because of Whatsapp. Some of your react like this because you are caught by surprise and it's frustrating. But really, to give up so easily and let Whatsapp and some other people tell you what you like? You are just showing them that they should stick to Android or iOS instead of making them see what makes ours great.. Anyways, I'm not giving up Windows Phone, there is just too much I like about it. And yes it takes patiences and Microsoft has done A LOT an continues to do so. You just can't change everything all at once. And I do think Nadella is doing a lot of good, this is my impression. Anyways, my advice is, seek alternatives, don't give up just yet..
  • I will not give up my WP because of a stupid Whatsapp app, I use Viber, Skype and my mailsystem - Office for WP - sending messages and share photos, no problems to communicate with everyone. I just hope MS will change Skype in direction Whatsapp, and after this we will forget about Whatsapp, let them play with Android-shit and all rotten Appels.
  • I most definetly agree with you. There is something to be done with Skype. It is used on PCs to communicate by almost everyone world wide, used in interviews. It would make sense to expand it to support other functions, fast, like Whatsapp does or BBM. Talking about BBM, it is another professional level software that may make it to the Windows Phone...
  • VIBER is a better WhatsApp alternative. At least VIBER has far more users than Telegram seems to have. Its not perfect, but the number one critical feature for a messaging app is that it has USERS.
  • Tried it with a friend... Faster than whatsapp, definitely !
  • I used to download the installation files for apps online when i had my N8 back in the day, i was even tempted to keep doing the routine also with certain apps on windows app store and keep and just plug in USB cable and install apps later on without need for using wifi and keep them backed up on ext. hard drive, i might start back doing same, Does anyone have a downloaded app of whatsapp, if so they can just share and we all back on until they fix their stuff for people who hard reset or puchased new phone recently
  • I will test it, hope its better than Whatsfail
  •   Whatever happens to Kik? Has anyone compared this to Migram? Enough talk, lets just support the competition and install Telegram and wait for it to pickup. Be patient.        
  • please does anyone have any idea when whatsapp is coming back to WP? otherwise i have to sell my WP and get Android phone.
  • I am sure you got your reasons why you would do something like that but, personally, I think it would be a mistake to give up your WP. It would be like acknowledging what Whatsapp or other companies are doing, like google, trying to counter Microsoft who is having a good product. Android really is not the best platform... Sure, it's a pain and frustrating to not be able to communicate with your contacts on whatsapp. Whats ia happening right now will most likely have Microsoft probably do something right with Skype. And do not forget, BBM has been announced for the WP and this is a great professional alternative. Will it really come out in June? We are all hoping it will.. Anyways, what is happening right now is very sad. Some companies are making things very unpleasant for Microsoft, including Google. Anyways, I'm not trying to tell you what you should do, just saying that if you will give up everytime forces your hand, you won't be done doing to the same thing for other things down the road.. At least stand for what you like..
  • Please do store in WhatsApp again ,,,, i m missing it i had more than 10 groups,,,, all are using WhatsApp but i am missing it because of windows!!!!, dear windows plz restore it soon! Thank u
  • It's not because of Windows.. It's because of Whatsapp / Facebook (facebook being the owner of Whatsapp now basically). Whatsapp decided to pull their application out without giving a reason. And if you have read the comments, someone even emails whatsapp and was given a bogus response...
  • I think,Windows have a rights to ask WhatsApp na
  • WhatsApp is back check it out
  • Thank u windows!!!!!,