Treo Pro Coming to Sprint After All

I'm just curious how this will affect AT&T. Will they drop Palm all together and focus on the HTC and Samsung releases?

I will buy this to replace my 700wx. Hopefully it comes out before Thanksgiving!

800w owners must be really peeved. The Treo Pro is a MUCH better phone in almost every possible way. Incredible news!

I have no desire to change my 800w for a Treo Pro.
I really like the look, size and style--yes, style--of the 800w. And, the Pro just isn't professional-looking enough for my taste. (I'm an attorney.)
Just my personal opinion.

My Pro has been mistaken for a Blackberry. Is that "professional"?

it doesn't bother me one bit. i guess i'm in the minority but i hate the look of the treo pro. i hate its centro looking keys. i like the treo 800w look much better. plus it doesn't have palm's threaded sms and customizations.
outside of a flush screen and better battery, how is this phone "WAY" better than the 800w?

It's Smaller, lighter, has much better screen and has a rockin' GPS!
-D

eh. to each his own. i like the 800w just fine. the pro doesn't have much improvements for me to make a switch.
plus it lacks palm's customizations. bit no-no.

It's Smaller, lighter, has much better screen and has a rockin' GPS!
-D
add a larger battery to the list

I don't have a Pro or an 800w, so I'm not comin' at it from that angle. I am on Sprint, though, and I like having more options (in case I ever decide to make the WinMo leap).
I like the option of having a device with a GPS receiver built-in, so maybe I won't have these (occasional) pairing headaches - but from what I've read in these forums, that's no guarantee.
So, I'm pleased to hear this news but I'm holding onto my 755p as long as I can. I'm really hoping Palm "goes Nova" very soon... and that it lives up to the anticipatory hype.

My Pro has been mistaken for a Blackberry. Is that "professional"?
Depends on the Blackberry. :D

I can comment that the Treo Pro is coming to Sprint. I currently have a Treo Pro CDMA running on Sprint that was sent to me from my Palm Regional Manager. I signed an NDA so really cannot comment on much other than its battery life runs circles around the 800w in half the size form factor.

And, the Pro just isn't professional-looking enough for my taste. (I'm an attorney.)
Oh how I struggled to be nice with this one.

A Treo, a BlackBerry and an iPhone walk into a bar ...

I can comment that the Treo Pro is coming to Sprint. I currently have a Treo Pro CDMA running on Sprint that was sent to me from my Palm Regional Manager. I signed an NDA so really cannot comment on much other than its battery life runs circles around the 800w in half the size form factor.
The effective battery life would be close to 50% longer if it has the same battery as the GSM Pro.

I say FAKE. Its so easy to change that data. I've convinced DSL reports that my Opera Mobile 9.5 is actually IE7 on Vista.

I say FAKE. Its so easy to change that data. I've convinced DSL reports that my Opera Mobile 9.5 is actually IE7 on Vista.
Surely you jest! :p http://www.broadbandreports.com/mspeed?results=1
Yup, this info can be faked VERY easily. Any requests btw?

Can you produce make a Treo Super Nova Pro EVDOA

While I do know VZW is slow on the uptake when it comes to new WM devices, it would be nice to know what they plan to replace the 700WX with. Treo Pro? 800W? Touch Pro? Campbell's soup cans and wire?

In any case, all the FCC test documents I saw of the GSM Pro included tests of the CDMA version done at the same time. All those 850 GSM and 850 CDMA filings are concurrent.

Can you produce make a Treo Super Nova Pro EVDOA
lol
Wait, wait! OMG!
And it's 600x480 running FireFox Mobile (early beta version, obviously)!!! lmao

I can comment that the Treo Pro is coming to Sprint. I currently have a Treo Pro CDMA running on Sprint that was sent to me from my Palm Regional Manager. I signed an NDA so really cannot comment on much other than its battery life runs circles around the 800w in half the size form factor.
i think you violated the NDA with that post (doubts).

Oh how I struggled to be nice with this one.
You showed admirable restraint. ;)
I am not one who get's offended by a good lawyer joke, FWIW.

Surely you jest! :p http://www.broadbandreports.com/mspeed?results=1
Yup, this info can be faked VERY easily. Any requests btw?
Yes, actually -- can you get the device information to appear at the **END** of the line, as it appears on DSL Reports with the Treo850e?

If battery life were an issue with me, or I really needed standalone GPS, I'd consider switching. For me, the keyboard is incredibly important, as is the ability to work with the Redfly.
As it stands now, the 800w is a better choice for me.

My Pro has been mistaken for a Blackberry. Is that "professional"?
Yeah, that sounds really prof..... :)

GOD DAMN IT!!! WTF!
I'm getting SICK OF THIS CRAP!
VERIZON, GET OFF YOUR LAZY *** AND GET A NEW WM TREO IN!!!
!@#$!@#!@#!@$%&&*&&!!
+100

I have no desire to change my 800w for a Treo Pro.
I really like the look, size and style--yes, style--of the 800w. And, the Pro just isn't professional-looking enough for my taste. (I'm an attorney.)
Just my personal opinion.
The key board and face buttons are better on the W.

File transfers are not a big deal to me. I attempt to touch the screen as little as possible, hence the 2 keys are important to me. The other differences are not enough to make me switch.

I can comment that the Treo Pro is coming to Sprint. I currently have a Treo Pro CDMA running on Sprint that was sent to me from my Palm Regional Manager. I signed an NDA so really cannot comment on much other than its battery life runs circles around the 800w in half the size form factor.
You are my hero. I'm sure that the battery life just crushes the 800w. As for Palm's customizations, they can keep 'em. The 800w is too buggy because of Palm's hacks. So many 800w owners turn off Palm's threaded SMS because WM6.1's threaded SMS works better.
I do like the keyboard of the 800w better. Palm really nailed that one. The much better battery life, flush screen, smaller size, working GPS, 3.5mm headset jack, better reception, better earpiece clarity and better speakerphone clarity really make the Treo Pro a much better phone for me.

Yes, actually -- can you get the device information to appear at the **END** of the line, as it appears on DSL Reports with the Treo850e?
Sure.
That info at the end is for the new version of Mobile IE coming out at the end of the year (the IEMobile 8.12 is the giveaway).
Of course that means the folks at XDA are already using it and putting it into their roms :p
So all someone would have to do is have one of the many devices with custom ROMs on board and then change the device info in the registry like I did to spoof the system.
Having said that, I don't really think this is fake. OTOH, if someone wanted to, it would not be a lot of work at all--so until there is some more solid info, people could be skeptical a bit, lol.

In any case, all the FCC test documents I saw of the GSM Pro included tests of the CDMA version done at the same time. All those 850 GSM and 850 CDMA filings are concurrent.
Once filed, those docs are accessible to the public, where would you have seen concurrent filings?

I was all set to get the Touch Pro, but the Treo Pro is the phone I really want because of its' size and front-facing keyboard. I guess I'll continue to wait until this is confirmed.

I hope we see it before Christmas...I will probably switch from palmos to WM if it does. I am up for a new phone anyway as far as my Sprint contract is concerned.

Someone in the Engadget comments section said this phone is already listed in the SKU system for Sprint: PTR850HK
Hard to verify, obviously. But I have no problems falsely getting people's hopes up :p
ps if anyone can dig up more info/screen shots of Sprint computers, it'd be swellOnce filed, those docs are accessible to the public, where would you have seen concurrent filings?
There are no public concurrent filings AFAIK--have no idea what he is referring to. There is mention of WCDMA in the documents, but of course that has nothing to do with Sprint/Verizon.Here are the FCC docs for the GSM Treo Pro in case someone is bored.

I like the paint job on the 800w. Rubberized paint is a big deal for me. I don't want to have to add the bulk of a rubberized case.

Someone in the Engadget comments section said this phone is already listed in the SKU system for Sprint: PTR850HK
I contacted Sprint CS based on this post and received this reply...
Thank you for contacting Sprint regarding the phone PTR850HK.
The exact date as to when the phone PTR850HK will be available with
Sprint cannot be determined.
However as and when this phone will be available with Sprint, you will
be notified by a high profile promotion.
I appreciate your patience in this regard.
Please let us know if you have any further questions. Thank you.
Sincerely,
Reeve K
Customer Service Specialist
Sprint

I contacted Sprint CS based on this post and received this reply...That's an autoresponder, not a reply. Hence the use of the SKU instead of the model name. Do a search of other posts where someone copies and pastes an email response they got from Sprint on an unannounced model, and you'll see the same wording.

subscribing..

I don't have a Pro or an 800w, so I'm not comin' at it from that angle. I am on Sprint, though, and I like having more options (in case I ever decide to make the WinMo leap).
I like the option of having a device with a GPS receiver built-in, so maybe I won't have these (occasional) pairing headaches - but from what I've read in these forums, that's no guarantee.
So, I'm pleased to hear this news but I'm holding onto my 755p as long as I can. I'm really hoping Palm "goes Nova" very soon... and that it lives up to the anticipatory hype.
I am holding unto my 755p as long as I can as well. I'm a Sprint user and anyone with Sprint that has WM knows that you cannot use the Content Manager with a Sprint phone if you have WM as your mobile OS. I was told by a Sprint tech person that they think it's something written in the program that prohibits this from happening and that they have not figured it out and of course not fixed it yet. That means for people who like to personalize their phones no ringtones (you can find third party ringtones to use although not all sites work) and no call tones can be used. And anything esle you would use your content manager for.
This is why I will wait until there is a Treo without WM.
Does anyone know if there will be any more Palm based Treo's or are they all done?

I am holding unto my 755p as long as I can as well. I'm a Sprint user and anyone with Sprint that has WM knows that you cannot use the Content Manager with a Sprint phone if you have WM as your mobile OS. I was told by a Sprint tech person that they think it's something written in the program that prohibits this from happening and that they have not figured it out and of course not fixed it yet. That means for people who like to personalize their phones no ringtones (you can find third party ringtones to use although not all sites work) and no call tones can be used. And anything esle you would use your content manager for.
This is why I will wait until there is a Treo without WM.
Does anyone know if there will be any more Palm based Treo's or are they all done?
Besides the Centro, the buzz is that the Palm OS won't see any new hardware. We anticipate a new operating system from Palm to replace it, though. It's being referred to as "Nova," if you'd like to it up in- or outside of these forums.

Nova? Hmmm will have to look it up and on here and see how different it is. It's funny how Palm is makeing their phones look like the Cento whose design I don't like. The Treo Pro which should be offered by Sprint is a phone I am interested in. However after reading a few things on here (great info) I am now interested in the Blackberry Storm. I want to compare that to the Treo Pro or as Sprint will call it the 850e. I have never been interested in a BB before however this one looks good. Good enoug for me to consider retiring my use of treo's.
From what I see now the Treo Pro would most likely be the last treo I would be buying. Unless of course Palm steps up and delivers something to blow me away. I really like my 755p so who knows?

I was about ready to jump aboard the Touch Pro bandwagon, but then I shot ecare an email about the Treo850 and here's the response I received:
Dear [me],
Thank you for contacting Sprint regarding the new phone and information
about [irrelevant].
Currently, we are working to launch the Palm Treo 850(PTR850HK).
Although, no official release date has been declared for the upgrade.
However, as soon as the upgrade is launched, we will inform our
customers through media.
I understand that there are lots of customers waiting for the release
and I can assure you that our technical department is working hard to
make it available soon. I appreciate your patience and understanding in
this regard.

I was about ready to jump aboard the Touch Pro bandwagon, but then I shot ecare an email about the Treo850 and here's the response I received:
Dear [me],
Thank you for contacting Sprint regarding the new phone and information
about [irrelevant].
Currently, we are working to launch the Palm Treo 850(PTR850HK).
Although, no official release date has been declared for the upgrade.
However, as soon as the upgrade is launched, we will inform our
customers through media.
I understand that there are lots of customers waiting for the release
and I can assure you that our technical department is working hard to
make it available soon. I appreciate your patience and understanding in
this regard.
There's a couple threads about this already. That was an automated response. It doesn't signify anything.

There's a couple threads about this already. That was an automated response. It doesn't signify anything.
It may not be everything, but it's more than nothing.

Click here for information regarding the Palm Nova

Click here for some additional info regarding Nova. Probably have been read by most. Sorry if its duplicate info.

Click here for information regarding the Palm Nova
I don't see a date on that write-up, but it doesn't reveal anything new.

Click here for some additional info regarding Nova. Probably have been read by most. Sorry if its duplicate info.
Yeah, that's from May. Thanks, though.

For those of you who don't look at WM experts check this out.http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/sprint_treo_pro_yeah_its_proba.html
More hope for you Sprint people. More dispair for us VZ people.

wow I'd love the Treo Pro to come to Sprint. I have the 800w right now and because of some issues I've had with Sprint I was told that I could wait it and and switch to the Touch Pro when it became available (basically now).
But if the Treo Pro is going to come out sometime relatively soon, maybe I can hold out a bit longer for it and they will still let me switch to it.
We will see. Definitely interesting.
~J

For what it's worth. One of my employees was talking to Sprint today for over an hour and getting bounced from problem solver to problem solver. She is having problems with her new 800w.
She was told Sprint is releasing the Treo Pro on this Sunday Nov. 2 and was told she could exchange her 800w for the Treo Pro. They went so far as to give her some type of authorization code.
I have no reason to doubt her and she say she kept pressing Sprint to make sure they were not talking about the Touch Pro. The agent said she checked with the supervisor and Nov 2 is the release date.
She plans on phoning early Sunday to order it and has promised to verify the order to me. I will post the results then.

[quote=redbird;1517505]For what it's worth. One of my employees was talking to Sprint today for over an hour and getting bounced from problem solver to problem solver. She is having problems with her new 800w.
She was told Sprint is releasing the Treo Pro on this Sunday Nov. 2 and was told she could exchange her 800w for the Treo Pro. They went so far as to give her some type of authorization code.
I have no reason to doubt her and she say she kept pressing Sprint to make sure they were not talking about the Touch Pro. The agent said she checked with the supervisor and Nov 2 is the release date.
She plans on phoning early Sunday to order it and has promised to verify the order to me. I will post the results then.
A colleague of mine stopped by my office this afternoon and asked me to set up his Touch Pro with our Exchange server. The store told him they were not supposed to sell them until Sunday, but went ahead and did so since he was switching from another carrier and they had them in the back of the store. He did have to ask if they had any HTC Touch Pro's before they offered.
This makes me wonder if Sprint told her wrong.

For those of you who don't look at WM experts check this out.http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/sprint_treo_pro_yeah_its_proba.html
More hope for you Sprint people. More dispair for us VZ people.
I sure wish that was true, but I just went there and as you can see, the Treo Pro is not there. I think it's a good job of photoshop. :rolleyes:

For those of you who don't look at WM experts check this out.http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/sprint_treo_pro_yeah_its_proba.html
More hope for you Sprint people. More dispair for us VZ people.
I sure hope that's true. Here's another:http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=14536

For what it's worth. One of my employees was talking to Sprint today for over an hour and getting bounced from problem solver to problem solver. She is having problems with her new 800w.
She was told Sprint is releasing the Treo Pro on this Sunday Nov. 2 and was told she could exchange her 800w for the Treo Pro. They went so far as to give her some type of authorization code.
I have no reason to doubt her and she say she kept pressing Sprint to make sure they were not talking about the Touch Pro. The agent said she checked with the supervisor and Nov 2 is the release date.
She plans on phoning early Sunday to order it and has promised to verify the order to me. I will post the results then.
OK How is this for an update!!! She called in and was told that it is not yet advertised but they are sending her one and it will be to her on Tuesday. Yes, a SPRINT Treo Pro. She asked numerous times to make sure exactly what was being sent.
I will follow up with confirmation when I see the phone in person...This is very excting!!!!:D

I just received another email saying that Sprint would be having it on their website within a week.;)
This is the email I received from my employee.
They said that it would be available to the general public in about a couple of weeks. I said that I did not see it on any of the web sites and she said that it is not available through the web sites as of yet. It is offered for people that have had problems, especially with the 800W.

I just received another email saying that Sprint would be having it on their website within a week.;)
This is the email I received from my employee.
They said that it would be available to the general public in about a couple of weeks. I said that I did not see it on any of the web sites and she said that it is not available through the web sites as of yet. It is offered for people that have had problems, especially with the 800W.
Bummer, I just spent an hour w/ the exchange dept and they said they couldn't find anything to suggest what you were saying redbird. There was no upgrade or trade in program for the 800W to a Treo Pro/850E.... Bummer...........

She asked repeatedly to make sure it was a Treo Pro and not the Touch Pro. Big difference. I will post an update on Tuesday when the package arrives. Hopefully it will be as promised and not a mess up.:confused:

who did she speak w/? What department?
I did confirm that the treo pro was being released today, but the folks I spoke with were not aware of any trade-in program.

I will ask her if she knows. She was in the 30 day trial period of the 800w and experienced problems with email not working.
She just said it was the order dept.

So, here is an update. She received a confirmation email showing the phone being delivered in coded form. She googled the model number and learned they shipped a TouchPro to her and not the promised Treo Pro.
She called back this morning and was told the TP is not available.
In spite of going into great detail with the CS agent on what was wanted she was mislead.:thumbsdn:
We are back to square one.

So, here is an update. She received a confirmation email showing the phone being delivered in coded form. She googled the model number and learned they shipped a TouchPro to her and not the promised Treo Pro.
She called back this morning and was told the TP is not available.
In spite of going into great detail with the CS agent on what was wanted she was mislead.:thumbsdn:
We are back to square one.
And, at this point, I'm guessing they aren't interested in how their representative caused this confusion, despite your employee's detailed questions.
It's not just their mistake (which happens) that bugs me or how annoying it is that it was made despite all efforts to avoid it (which sucks) but the complete lack of accountability on their part.

Everyone knew it was the Touch Pro and not the Treo Pro. Nothing new here.

Everyone knew it was the Touch Pro and not the Treo Pro. Nothing new here.
Not everyone.

Everyone knew it was the Touch Pro and not the Treo Pro. Nothing new here.
No. Not everyone. Some people believe what they are told expecially when they ask over and over to make sure the CS rep knows what is expected.

don't mind nsxprime... he's grumpy...

don't mind nsxprime... he's grumpy...
lol
I guess it's still coming to Sprint, but it'll take a lil longer.

don't mind nsxprime... he's grumpy...
No, just smarter than most.

No, just smarter than most.
...and humble....:rolleyes:

No, just smarter than most.
Inaccurately stating what "everyone" knew either contradicts the "smarter" or confirms the "grumpy."
I don't doubt your intelligence in the least, so I'm leaning toward the latter.

Hey guys.
First, thanks to ALL OF YOU for the great hacks, reg edits, etc, especially Malatesta
Second, I am the business manager of a company who uses only Treo's, so all of us are using the Treo 800w's right now. I called Sprint this morning at 10:15 am eastern and was on the phone with Sprint Premier Care for business and they first offered to upgrade our Treo's to the Treo Pro IMMEDIATLY. My response was, "Let's do this". The rep then said "Hold on". After a minute she came back on and told me the Treo Pro hasn't been released yet but WILL be this month and that as soon as it is, they will call back to sell us the Treo Pro. I asked her to confirm for me that indeed the Treo pro will be released by Sprint and will be coming out this month. She responded, "yes, I can confirm that is the case" and asked me to hold once more to get an exact date for me this month. I waited another minute and she came back on and told me that her supervisor didn't know the exact date but it is definetly set for release this month)
They are so nice to us because we have 130 lines of service with them with Treo 800w's and this does not include the wireless cards we have from them for our laptops, which is an additional 130 lines of service.
So, I would say all the hints we have been receiving that Sprint is about to release the Treo Pro are definetly confirmed in my book and is going to be released this month.

Suggestion to anyone told by Sprint that the Treo Pro is imminent: ask for the model number.

Suggestion to anyone told by Sprint that the Treo Pro is imminent: ask for the model number.
The model number is already known and in Sprint's system. Has been for a while now.

@nsxprime: I realize that. The point of asking for the model number is to bypass the Sprint rep's know-it-all mindset when confirming that they're talking about the Treo Pro vs. the Touch Pro. If they give you the model number, you can look it up and show them that they're not talking about the Treo Pro (unless they are).

What if the Treo 850e were....
With the news about re-engergizing the Sprint Nextel iDen network, could this be a Windows Mobile device with Direct Connect? It might have pretty poor WWAN data, but with WiFi these speeds could be correct.
The Blackberry Curve 8350i doesn't have EVDO, but it does have WiFi. And there is no Windows Mobile device with Direct Connect PTT (ok, there is the Motorola i920, but that is WinMo 5.0 Stanard). Sprint always has had pretty good Windows Mobile support. So could this be the first Nextel Treo device?
This is just speculation on my part. But it probably wouldn't upset current 800w owners too much if the "Treo Pro" traded EVDO for Direct Connect. And I know plenty of Direct Connect users that would love a Treo, but need Push-to-Talk. These folks are already considering the 8350i.
I have no inside information on this topic.

Hey guys.
First, thanks to ALL OF YOU for the great hacks, reg edits, etc, especially Malatesta
Second, I am the business manager of a company who uses only Treo's, so all of us are using the Treo 800w's right now. I called Sprint this morning at 10:15 am eastern and was on the phone with Sprint Premier Care for business and they first offered to upgrade our Treo's to the Treo Pro IMMEDIATLY. My response was, "Let's do this". The rep then said "Hold on". After a minute she came back on and told me the Treo Pro hasn't been released yet but WILL be this month and that as soon as it is, they will call back to sell us the Treo Pro. I asked her to confirm for me that indeed the Treo pro will be released by Sprint and will be coming out this month. She responded, "yes, I can confirm that is the case" and asked me to hold once more to get an exact date for me this month. I waited another minute and she came back on and told me that her supervisor didn't know the exact date but it is definetly set for release this month)
They are so nice to us because we have 130 lines of service with them with Treo 800w's and this does not include the wireless cards we have from them for our laptops, which is an additional 130 lines of service.
So, I would say all the hints we have been receiving that Sprint is about to release the Treo Pro are definetly confirmed in my book and is going to be released this month.
I had a similar experience with Verizon. They called me the day my contract expired in August trying to get me to renew. When my objection was that I wanted a new treo, she told me the 800w was set to be released in September(she gave me a specific date) and also said that it would be released along with the Blackberry Thunder(which I believe is now the storm) and a new LG Dare(not the one currently out). I started asking questions about the specs and she quickly started going over them with me. All of this clearly did not come true. On the phone their objective is to make you feel warm and fuzzy inside so you don't change carriers. It sounds like Sprint is doing the same thing Verizon did to me. I doubt a Sprint rep would know if a CDMA version of the phone is being manufactured before notice shows up in this forum from more reliable sources.

I had a similar experience with Verizon. They called me the day my contract expired in August trying to get me to renew. When my objection was that I wanted a new treo, she told me the 800w was set to be released in September(she gave me a specific date) and also said that it would be released along with the Blackberry Thunder(which I believe is now the storm) and a new LG Dare(not the one currently out). I started asking questions about the specs and she quickly started going over them with me. All of this clearly did not come true. On the phone their objective is to make you feel warm and fuzzy inside so you don't change carriers. It sounds like Sprint is doing the same thing Verizon did to me. I doubt a Sprint rep would know if a CDMA version of the phone is being manufactured before notice shows up in this forum from more reliable sources.
well, Sprint reps' comments or not, I think it's pretty certain Sprint is getting this phone soon. When their own website has it in a drop down list (http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/sprint_treo_pro_yeah_its_proba.html), I gotta assume it is real.

well, Sprint reps' comments or not, I think it's pretty certain Sprint is getting this phone soon. When their own website has it in a drop down list (http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/sprint_treo_pro_yeah_its_proba.html), I gotta assume it is real.
Unfortunately we've seen similar things before, and then not had the device show up, so it's not definitive.
It is a good indication, however.

11/10/08. Just got off a chat with Sprint a few minutes ago and was told they have no info as to when the Treo Pro will be released to Sprint customers.
Anyone have any definitive dates?