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VAIO's first Windows 10 Mobile phone is here, and it looks stunning

Windows 10 Mobile is getting a lot of interest from Japanese manufacturers. NuAns launched the highly-customizable Neo late last year, and now VAIO has unveiled its first offering: the Phone Biz.

Aimed at business users, the VAIO Phone Biz is made out of aluminium, and features a 5.5-inch Full HD display, Snapdragon 617 SoC, 3GB of RAM, 16GB internal storage, microSD slot (up to 64GB), 13MP camera, LTE connectivity (bands 1,3,8,19,21), Wi-Fi ac, Bluetooth 4.0, and a 2800mAh battery. Although the phone doesn't feature Qualcomm's latest hardware, it supports Continuum.

The Phone Biz will be available for purchase from April for ¥50,000 ($424) for the SIM-free version, and VAIO is partnering with NTT Docomo to offer carrier variants. What do you guys make of VAIO's offering?

Source: VAIO; Via: The Verge

531 Comments
  • Sick
  • Looks wise, Surface phone has some good competition already!
  • I don't see where this would be any competition... And, to add to that the Surface Phone has, or has already, had competition for years.. Major competition that it will barely have a chance going up against because 1; people are biased towards iDroid (for good reason) 2; we still have a super critical app problem, and 3; MS will not do NOTHING towards marketing the damn devices, even if it's the absolute best phone money can buy... And, the later will most likely be the nail in the coffin..... I hope MS proves me wrong,,,, this time.
  • wait! How is this device offering Continuum with a microUSB port (see photo #3)?
  • Good question. Also, why only 64gb SD? That is a big negative for anyone who has 128gb cards. Even the Lumia 640 that I picked up for $29 accepts 128gb cards.
  • Exactly. I was just thinking that my cheap Lumia 640's 128 gb SD card wouldn't work in this. Strange choice.
  • You should also think the most expensive phone in the whole world (iPhone) does not have micro sd slot. You can atleast add 64GB on top of the 16 GB internal storage on this WM.
  • Well instead you could use micro usb based flash drive
  • Maybe a 128 gig card will work in this smart phone if the Windows 10 OS recognizes it. Some devices have the ability to do things the manufacturere does not recomend it to do.
  • I'm sure it will take more. I read somewhere that even Lumia 640 will take more than the supposed max of 128GB. I think these are just arbitrary limits companies put on  paper.
  • im sure it will take it!   I remember the days of the 3210. it had a SD slot for up to 500MB but my 1GB card worked just fine. it was just a little slower!
  • I had a 6230i with an 1gb card.. and it worked fine
  • i think that what i meant! all those old models were so long ago!!!
  • @grazy1982. Which 3210? Lol.
  • That's what I meant above. It was the 6230i!
  • I had 3210....but it didn't have an SD card slot.
  • did you meant Nokia 3210 ??? are you sure??? this is my first mobile phone in 14 years back, and it was no SDCard Slot,
  • 128GB cards would work with this most probably. I've seen many companies mention upto 64GB support but 128GB cards work fine with them
  • Be happy it isn't MemoryStick ;) now seriously, it really is a bit odd to offer such a small capacity today.
  • I apologize for being off topic, but what do you think of the 640? I have the 1520 and love it but may have to get a new phone soon.  
  • The 640 is a great phone for the price. All my kids love it. But it is a budget phone. It has glance screen and the screen looks good, but viewing it at an angle s washes things out a bit. Ear speaker is loud, which is good for me. My 1020 is too low sometimes. Photos are decent, but nothing like my 1020, of course.
  • I've only tested 640XL and it is awesome, I sold it, now my question is: When are you going to buy your phone? Soon or Soon™? LOL
  • Because cloud!
  • @Paul Kinslow Seems to be a trend that some OEMs state (up to) when it is the floor rather than the ceiling. Maybe the way they translate to English? Let's look closer. 32GB is the upper limit for SDHC, so 64GB means that the reader must be SDXC. That's the floor. You could put a larger capacity card in and get class 10 speed, but not UHS-I or UHS-II speeds. There are plenty of 128GB SDXC cards in the class 10 speed. I'm confident they would work. Also UHS-I and UHS-II cards will read/write, but only at class 10 speed... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Compatibility
  • it'll prpbably be the usual story - 128GB cards weren't released when they tested and wrote the manual. the manual for the 640 probably suffers from the same not-able-to-confirm-future-tech-is-compaible issue
  • You don't need cables for continuum, in fact I prefer to use it over Miracast if I am not home. See my video at https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=40cffde85f1ab56a&id=40CFFDE85F1AB56A%2121...
  • Nice video...so simple.  
  • Very nice and well narrated. Thanks.
  • Great piece of work on the video. Thnx
  • Continuum works wirelessly as well, so maybe this phone only supports it in that mode.  30 fps only in that case though, so no watching vodeo from the phone on a TV.
  • Most videos are 30fps for the time being
  • How many movies have you seen that exceed 30fps? The issue isn't with watching videos -- it's with things that require interaction and quick response times, such as gaming. When you type a document on Continuum through miracast, there is a noticable lag between key press and the character appearing on screen. For things that don't require interaction, like movies, 30fps plenty of speed to deceive the human eye. Heck, most people didn't know that their phone screens ran at 30fps until the Lumia 920 came around with a 60fps screen (and then samsung, among others started too)
  • maybe wirelessly?
  • Wireless
  • This phone only supports Continuum wirelessly. (Miracast)
  • A phone does not need USB Type-C to support Continuum, it just needs video out. Although microUSB 2.0 does not support video out as far as I know.
  • Mhl Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Continuum can be used wirelessly, but they may offer a dock.
  • Continuum is wireless, no docking station.
  • I believe continuum is supported over wireless only for this phone.
  • Ever heard of wireless display adapter?
  • It works wirelessly, though not all that great.
  • via wifi
  • Miracast maybe?
  • You can do Continuum wirelessly too. Continuum doesn't require USB-C. It's less laggy over USB-C, but it's not a requirement.
  • I'm sure it can be done wirelessly..thats how I connect my 95XL
  • Very true, unfortunately! As I write this from my S6 which I've had for 2 weeks after supporting WP since my HTC Radar. The nail is the app problem, no matter what, we want apps... Good ones. Project Islandwood needs to step it up. I hope they have a Surface phone lined with new apps by then. Otherwise I'm staying put with the Droid. I hate Google too. My S6 is running all the Microsoft apps and the sad thing is they're better then on WP10. Pathetic, step it up MS!
  • Agree with all your points bro. Only thing I'd suggest is not calling your device a Droid or The Droid. Droid is a brand series of Motorola phones that run Android, not an Android phone shortened down. This advice will see you well especially if you get involved with the AndroidCentral community, who won't take you seriously using noob terminology.
  • You should put /s at the end of your posts ... /s
  • Well, not in my country. In fact Motorola couldn't use that brand here because there was another company that owned that brand before. I remember those models called MotoROI... LOL
  • Don't do much marketing? I see that damn Lumia 950/950XL all the time on TV! atleast in here finland they are adversiting!
  • We cut the cord years ago and have both Hulu and Netflix. Microsoft definitely advertises on Hulu when it comes to their products and even services EXCEPT Windows Phone. I don't recall seeing any phone adverts since subscribing 4 years ago. Plenty of Surface ads.
  • Microsoft doesn't make Windows Phone. They make Windows 10 and also a brand of hardware known as Lumia.
  • @TonyRAnderson:
    Lumia 640 says otherwise...
  • Over wireless internet? You haven't cut the cord otherwise. ;-)
  • They don't advertise in America much at all. At least on the phone front, they don't. There are Surface ads all over TV here, but the last Lumia commercial that was made by Microsoft (as in not a carrier mentioning they have a phone at the end of an ad) that I can I remember seeing is for the 1020. To be fair, though, I don't watch TV that often.
  • I care to disagree. People are always talking about the "App problem". Well, I'm sure we already have at least 50% of all the iDroid apps and we are at best 5% of the mobile market. The way I see it it's not the devs fault, and MS itself still keeps trying to bring us more apps. It's the users that should at least try to meet them halfway. And that means the ones that really care about the OS must try harder to bring other users (back).
  • We'll come back when there is app parity. Having 50% of apps means nothing when you are missing that one app I really need and use. Also perpetual beta status of official apps doesn't breed confidence at all. Posted from my Note 5
  • I need Disqus. Android doesn't have that since android has an app-gap problem.
  • It exists in iOS as a Beta.
  • I love using the disqus app on my L1520 keeps me up to date rather than having to go to web, even get notification on the live tile , its awsome
  • I know that not everyone can come back, but you have to agree that a big slice of android users only do so much and a call & sms app is more than enough, so even if android loses only 5% of it's market share it means A LOT more for WM! Instagram devs already know 6tag is way better than a non-beta android-like version, so why even bother... Same goes for tapatalk and mTalk. That's just to name a couple of apps...
  • I just want to make a statement here about 6tag. My account was deleted without any warning, only for using 6tag, I have not violated any part of eula or terms and coditions. I was unable to recover my account but I have received an email stating that by using 6tag, I have violated source code part of terms. While oficial Instagram app is in beta stage for long as I am using windows phone, and only alternative is 6tag for which you risk account deletion. If I were to know that long ago, I would of stayed on android.
  • Are you saying that TOS prohibit using 3rd party apps?
  • If you create your account with 6tag it'll get closed and your email gets banned. Currently still working is opening the account using an official Instagram app on iOS/Android/WP and then using 6tag. But that might be gone soon too.
  • See this thread: http://forums.windowscentral.com/windows-apps/397531-will-6tag-ever-upda...   I asked there about the recent news that Instagram will ban ALL 3rd party apps this summer, and the response was that Rudy claims it won't affect 6tag. Well see, I guess. But Instagram is clear in their platform policy, a 3rd party app is not allowed to "use the Instagram APIs to replicate or attempt to replace the functionality or essential user experiences of Instagram.com or any of Instagram's apps". They will cut off any apps that haven't been approved this summer. http://developers.instagram.com/post/133424514006/instagram-platform-update It's possible 6tag is approved or will be, but I'm not sure why Instagram would allow it when it clearly goes against their own terms and there already is an official (albeit beta) app on W10M.  
  • No.. 50% of "POPULAR" apps is what we have!
    Popular apps make up only a small percentage of total app, needed, and wanted apps... Popular apps are probably 5-10% of all apps.... That means that if Windows has 50% of popular apps, then it really only has a very small percentage of apps people need, and want..
    ........
    You can disagree all you want, but the reality (when you finally realize, and accept it) is that Windows is severely lacking apps, and for things to change this must change!
  • Windows 10 Mobile is good enough for the closet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0ID-t1oc7s
  • Over a year ago: http://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-now-has-over-500000-apps-its-win... of course it is lacking apps, but it is much more lacking of users for the tons of apps it has. @ theDangrr If they make their APIs public they should allow people to use it freely. If what you say it's true, it's their bad, they should've at least warned you first. There's no excuse for what they did. 6Tag was just an excuse, or else they could easily block that app and all 6Tag users. Believe me, I also have (made) a simple Instagram app myself.  
  • 50%? What kind of fantasy land do you live in?
  • @R0br Last time I've checked the top 40 app's we were only missing snapchat. You can say 40 or 30%, that's not the point. Some say we're at 2% market share. Thats too low for the tons of apps we already have. Yo can solve this gap by bringing useres so devs will come or bringing devs so users will come. Problem is users are no comming. I'm not saying who should come first, but at least everyone should be meeting  half way.
  • Dude, top 40 apps doesn't have anything to do with having the apps people need for various reasons.. Most (thousands) needed apps aren't even on that list...wakeup!
  • Yes, maybe 50% of popular apps, like I said.. Meaning that we have less than 10% of needed apps that people want, mainly because popular apps are only a tiny percentage of needed apps..
  • @rodneyej how many apps do you think the store have?
  • It's Microsoft fault with all these exclusive devices and poor marketing. Users can't find phones to buy.
  • Price point is good competitively for people who want a cheaper phone in the windows market plus the aluminum people like alot who knows it might sell well
  • Microsoft is to busy giving Marco Rubio money to care about the phone marketing lol buying politicians
  • Isn't VAIO Sony? Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • not for 2 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaio#Spin-off_from_Sony  
  • You're not wrong on the last point. Microsoft is it's own worst enemy. 
  • If it suppors wired Continuum with a USB-Type C port, it could be a hot phone.  This phone takes the place of L850.  It seems that MS has cancelled L850 for a reason to get OEMs involved.
  • Surface was never meant to compete to OEM, but to set example/ Hardware guide for them . So will be the surface phone. MS definately love more OEM to use Windows 10 and W10M on their products.
  • ^ This. Does anyone honestly think we would have as many Windows tablet choices as we do today if Microsoft had not built the Surface? I would even go so far as to say Surface is why we still have Windows phones. (No Surface -> no reason for mass-market Windows tablets -> no reason for UWP -> no reason for Windows phones)
  • I can agree with that.
  • This is why MS brought Continuum support for SD617
  • Gotta love you guys. You guys Complain about the bezels on the 950's yet I only see praise for this phone that has a bottom bezel I can almost put my coffee mug on.
  • some people are very strange.
  • It's the Microsoft hater syndrome that rules here. Makes zero sense.
  • This phone, from the pics, has a sleekness to the design and maybe that makes a difference?
  • It does have literally huge bezel chin that is obvious at a glance, it does looks "meh" because of it. Thing is, overall design of the phone is sleek enough that it makes it looks quite nice. It doesn't have very unique design but it still looks good. Yes, if the bezel at the bottom would be smaller, that would be great.
  • Agree that the bezel is just too much.
  • @2tomtom, perhaps but when you hold the device it makes sense for button placement? Bearing in mind this is geared for the Japanese market.
  • It does have a pretty noticeable bezel, but as you said, it still looks good. It's just nice to see an OEM make a high-end Windows 10 phone. If this phone could be sold by T-Mobile ATT and Verizon...well the later is a bit of a stretch, but I think it would sell okay.
  • Lol its like they made a last minute change
  • Exactly how i feel about the posts here. 70% of those in this forum are just here to hate on anything windows getting to the point where it's a waste of time visiting WIndows Central shame because every one used to be so passionate here.
  • Maybe it is a wireless charging pad. Who knows what they have got up their sleeves.
  • I think it is just that we all expected more from Microsoft and the 950s, whereas we are all just happy to see another vendor producing windows phones running a so called dead OS haha.
  • haha! i agree! its the first thing i noticed! the 950s are very thin bezel-wise.   I was comparing a iphone 6plus against my 950xl and was shocked that a larger screened phone was smaller than the iphone 6 plus! lol
  • People just love to complain about anything Microsoft puts out.
  • :)). So true. Well, my xl literally does not have bazzels:D... For me.
  • LOL yea =)
  • Is it possible that multiple people have different opinions and not everyone here shares the same opinion?
  • Put some metal on it and everyone is happy :D And anyway, people who think the bottom bezel of 950 is big have never seen one in person or never seen the buttons bar with the accent color. When you see where the buttons bar ends you cannot say the bezel is big, smaller than that could not be used since the thumb could not interact with all the buttons.
  • But aluminum
  • I kinda like having that empty area at the bottom (meaning the buttons are a bit higher up). Trying to touch those buttons when they are close to the bottom edge is more difficult (for me at least with my clubs) when using the phone one-handed.
  • The 950's actually have a smaller bottom bezel than the top one, and it is very good. It might not seem but when you hide the navigation buttons it looks just right
  • Yeah, that thing is huge. Better be a hell of a speaker!
  • I wouldn't say it's stunning, but it does look nice..
    ....
    I think we've come to the point where all these aluminum chassis devices are all beginning to look the same.. Neat silver slabs... And, because of that it makes solid, colorful, polycarbonate Lumia devices seem more exclusive... The point is that everything shouldn't looks the same. If MS takes this (dare I say boring?) aluminum slab design with the "Surface Phone",,,, that's not good.... Just my opinion.. I think these phones look nice, and clean, but seriously tell me what's exciting about the design.... ❓❓❓❓❓
    ...... Does anyone else see HTC on the back of that thing?
  • Perhaps this is more svelte design wise compared to other recent phones?
  • Perhaps
  • It does reminds me alot of HTC One series on the back, at least on the smaller thumbnail. Though when you try look it closely, it still looks bit different than HTC since this Vaio phone doesn't have the plastic bands, instead it's got rather bit cleaner antennae covers. Overall the design isn't that revolutionary by any means but does look good, but yeah the same silvery metal backs is starting to look too normal on flagships. At least HTC did offer some colors for some of their HTC One series devices. This is why I also dislike that Microsoft decided not to offer any color options anymore, having polycarbonate backs are good for having color options just like the previous Lumia did. It would be maybe a less bland if they still offer colors for Lumia. Hopefully even for Surface Phone, they should at least offer some colors just like the new Surface Pens. Also they don't have to resort for full magnesium body, even just the sides while having a polycarbonate removable backs like Lumia 830 would be still great. Especially if the removable backs can be replace with different materials just like the Moto X.
  • MS should seriously consider two devices....
    1. The 925
    2. The 930
    ....................
    When it comes to metal these two devices look almost perfection..
  • Indeed! I don't get it why Microsoft didn't even consider these phones (including 830 design) for their 950 flagships. It was well received at that time and yet they manage to make generic looking devices that I even wasn't expecting for them to do. It feels like they're almost giving up by just releasing those devices just for the sake of it, despite they claim they do have intention to please its (hardcore) fans.
  • ^What Rodneyej said, its either they all look the same from back or their profile looks like iPhone 5. They need to start getting creative with these aluminum designs, otherwise Im all for customizable back covers that can be replaced to a users liking.
  • I always get compliments and questions about my 830.
  • So you want a Lumia 950?
  • Already have one and I still have my 930. I have a jewelry business and im currently in the process of producing a back cover for my 950. Rose gold-plated side trims, black lizards skin for the back with our logo hot-stamped subtly in the back. Doing this for the 950 is a piece of cake but try doing this for the 930 ...I wont even bother risking any issues with internals.
  • Nice phone. But like always people cling to the "no apps bruh. The bezel looks like a big table for my coffee. Makes my butt look huge."
  • The main drawback of WPs are the fan base .. They are never satisfied.. I feel pity... None of us have touched and felt the device in hand .. You guys are already giving it a tag... "Big Bezel..Nothing stunning with the design..etc" ...
    Give it a chance people.. Damn...
  • ^ This. OEMs getting on board despite WP/M market share over the last year? We should all be happy, because the more OEMs the better the future of Windows on phones will be.
  • I WOULD say we ARE happy about this device coming......
    ........
    We're just talking about design in the industry as a whole,, setting aside Windows devices.. This isn't just a Windows problem, as we see it.
  • It's funny that after all this time, nobody can create a decent looking start screen for their WP offering.
  • That bezel though.
  • Not feeling very well?
  • Microsoft wants to build their mobile market just like their pc. They have the os and the oem will deal with the hardware. The future is bright for window fans
  • https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sYU_eDMr4xE
  • I just wish OEMs will bundle phones with laptops
  • Yes, absolutely.
  • Very good idea to sell bundles. MS needs to pick up that idea and subsidize OEMs in doing so. Let's see
  • Also maybe build hybrids that you dock the phone inside the tablet, just like the some Asus Transformer devices. Especially if the W10M Continuum desktop environment finally became a desktop-like (like having floating windows with Snap and other desktop aspects). Even better if Win32 for W10M Continuum is implemented well.
  • I don't like that idea much, the great thing about continuum is the fact you can use the phone at the same time, if you dock the phone in a tablet the best you will get out of it is a touchpad / maybe second screen, but I'd rather pick up the phone and use it. I'm not against some kind of tablet / keyboard accessory that is dedicated for continuum though, with the right price it would be handy rather than buying a full tablet / laptop if you don't need it.
  • I can see that, but that doesnt mean the idea is useless. It actually makes more sense with Continuum, at least good for lightweight productivity yet easier to manage than the full blown Windows. Kinda like Chromebooks but way better, cooler and useful yet you can undock the phone anytime. A true convergence PC. Also that concept is already been done by Asus but it only runs with Android, which is makes perfect sense for W10M instead. This is good to OEM that helps them to market new kind of devices, which benefits the Windows platform alot and give it more reason why to get one. Some people would prefer to have one device to manage for their computing needs (that if Continuum does became a desktop-like, tons of useful and powerful Universal Apps, and able to run Win32 apps).
  • Where the phone is the brains, drops into the tablet and the phone screen becomes the touchpad, but with the added benefit of including the phone's hi-res display for additional feedback to the user. The base (convertible tablet/laptop) houses a discrete GPU and battery for full PC performance and solid speakers for an excellent speakerphone experience. The Intel chip in the phone also goes into full power mode when docked to achieve PC-level performance. Remove the phone, and it continues to provide the CPU wirelessly to its laptop base (so you can talk and use Continuum at the same time, all wirelessly), but w/o the benefit of the dedicated GPU and extra battery in the base. The CPU in the phone drops down to a lower power state, so that it still achieves reasonable phone battery life, and it won't need all the CPU power when it's undocked (but the Continuum experience is diminished with the reduced CPU power). Of course, when you remove the phone, you also lose the touchpad, but it still has the keyboard and convertible laptop/tablet touchscreen. That would be amazing and a game changer. A device that is quite literallly a phone and a PC in one, with all the benefits of both. Not sure that's exactly where you were going for, but sure sounds like an incredible machine.
  • This is what I positively see the another great use of Continuum. A true mobile PC that literally can became like a PC that you can use anywhere, not just by plugging to the monitor. This could potentially revitalize Windows Mobile devices and even encourage OEM to make a "new" breed of devices which do have a reason to exist and differentiate.  Microsoft could demonstrate this for their rumored Surface Phone as an accessory. This of course better if Win32 apps are possible on W10M to run inside Continuum (of course there is no way to run it on phone screen), and first and foremost if W10M Continuum is truly a desktop-like, not a more lighter version of Windows RT.
  • Without OEM it impossible. MS need more more OEM. OEM, OEM and OEM. Dell, HP, ASUS, Lenovo, Sony also need to build a Continuum supported device.
  • Just sounds like developers, developers, developers.
  • But all this platform needs is consumers, consumers, consumers. Why would any developer build apps for an empty platform? So for that we need OEMs, OEMs, OEMs.
  • Have you heard about the chicken-and-egg syndrome?
  • Lol
  • We need chickens, chickens, chickens then
  • The OEMs want more CONTROL, CONTROL, CONTROL over the OS. They can't differentiate much in software with Windows phone. Android gives them almost total control. Just look at Samsung for example. Can Samsung add their own pen with multi windows? Their own one hand mode? Change UI? Edge screen notifications on Windows mobile? What about different processor/SoC?
  • And OEM's will want to fill the phone with their own bloatwares just like they do on the android phones. lol. WM is good where it is now.
  • Yup, they also need their spywares. Lenovo got caught several times :) . If Microsoft wants to gain marketshare, they need the OEMs though.
  • Similar to MSFT with a lot of bloatware in windows 10
  • But Nokia had exclusive software on Lumias. So it is possible. Otoh they also had Elop.
  • Keep telling yourself that.
  • Not when the OEMs can do whatever they want on Android vs limited options on Windows phone.
  • Oh my god I want it!!!! 
  • Beautiful!! Those bezels tho...
  • Lol, I was waiting for someone to comment on the bezels. It looks really nice though.
  • but it's gigantic, the bottom one
  • A giant chin bezel. This phone has a chin! I think the looks is almost "perfect" if wasn't that for the huge bezel. Overall it still looks great at least.
  • Would be better of they made capacitive buttons instead of software buttons to fill that bottom bezel.
  • If that so, The continuum mode will not have navigation bar too
  • Thay have separate screens... you can easily put a navigation bar at the monitor screen.
  • Yeah, that would be a smarter way to take advantage of that wasted space. I don't know why there is an unnecessary huge bezel at the bottom. It seems like its bit bigger than the top bezel. Or if they at least put a fingerprint scanner at the bottom, that bezel won't be wasted.
  • More like the VAIO Chin Bez.
  • Nice
  • With Bezels so big it should've been hardware buttons.
  • Huge !!! The could have put a trackpad there ,or a physical keyboard
  • Yeah, looks great but why so much space at the bottom?
  • iPhone 3GS anyone?
  • You need glasses.
  • ??????
  • No, HTC whatever... That's what it looks like front the back. No doubt about it.
  • looks like an HTC One V series of phones from late 2008.
  • Boy that phone was beautiful but sucked ass..
  • It kinda looks HTC One series at the back. Kinda since it doesn't have those plastic lines like those on HTC, its rather bit different looking instead.
  • My first impression of the blurry pic, before realizing it is aluminum and reading the specs, was it looks like Lumia 521.
  • I checked Lumia 521, it does also look similar except Lumia during those times have colors.
  • I hope they polish W10M fast. Sad, it is aim for business. ):
  • There's nothing wrong with it now.
  • There's plenty wrong with it. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • The last .71 build is quite stable, especially with the new firmware i recieved...
  • "Quite stable" doesn't mean Smooth experience"... Still a long way to go..
  • What phone are you using W10m on?
  • There is still alot of quirks left in W10M even for non-Insider builds. I recently saw a video from MobileTechReview and the bug still persist.
  • @aXross, which bug? There are tonnes of insects out there :P. So care to be specific?
  • Cockcroach! I hate those things! XD Well I remember 3 issues that the reviewer mentioned that I do also have: - Edge always reload web pages even you've just switched from another tab recently. For 950 with 3GB of RAM (that's big for a smartphone), that sounds like a bad memory management at least of the browser. - Word Mobile hamburger menu have glitch when opening it. - App downloading/updating in Windows Store is still very slow (in my case sometimes failed to update/download) Few more issues that I have that is not mentioned in the review (I'll just name few common): - Keyboard sometimes bit unresponsive, so there's some delays when the keyboard slides-in, worst when using Edge. - Speaking of Edge, there is still a bug that when you type something on Addressbar, the search suggestion still on the view covering the webpage. - When sending an MMS image from a camera in Messaging app, it tends to crash sometimes. - Some apps randomly crashing - Camera app glitch that it leaves the "ghost" image around the sides. - Glance sometimes won't show - Some Live Tiles randomly became blank Mind you many of these issues are even inconsistent, so I don't even expect you will have most of these (or lucky if non at all).
  • aXross forgot to mention the random start screen freezing which makes restart a must atleast 7 times a day.. W10M is needs a lot of work before going official.. A lot means.. A LOOOOOTTTT...
  • Sorry to hear that. :( This is why I find the issues inconsistent among W10M users. Gladly I dont have that issue but I can't dismiss the others having other issues than mine (especially worst ones).
    W10M is definately needs alot of work before it is considered truly rock solid and well polished OS for 'everybody'. Windows Phone was a polished one, only lacks several features (yes its not perfect, its got some fee bugs too). W10M have maore features, but its as polished as Android 2.2 Froyo or older (which means not great).
    Heck even the regular Windows 10 fro desktops/tablets still have some several issues too and alot of unpolished areas (especially tge UI part).
  • Wasps are the ones I hate. Always getting in the house when it's cold outside. And the fact that sometimes alarms just don't fire and I have to delete and add again. And quiet hours, it's random chance whether the automatic rules will work.
  • Which phone are you using W10m on?
  • Old and still running Lumia 820 and 830.
  • You're a Denier aren't you? Posted from my Note 5
  • So what? It's a smartphone. You can still use it for whatever purpose you want...
  • But we are paying a good amount of money.. And they should work as they are advertised...
  • Show this to those who are shouting on various forums that windows phones are dead.
  • Windows Phones are dead.
    Wanna bet this will be VAIO's only WP before they realise that the platform is going nowhere and is just a money loser?
  • Yep. History repeats itself.
  • Fanboys get butthurt and rip on DJCBS, but I'm guessing he's right in this case.  Where are the W10M phones from the WP7 OEMS (Samsung, LG, HTC, Dell, ZTE) or the WP8 OEMS (Blu, Yezz, Karbonn, Lava, Micromax, Hisense, Archos, Cherry?) I bet these W10M OEMs (VAIO, Acer, Alcatel, Coship, Funker) all become one-and-dones.  It's just being pragmatic.
  • Why are u even here? PS you are wrong. Get over it.
  • How can be be wrong when the phone hasn't been released yet? I'd say there's a 50/50 chance he's right. Without apps none of this matters anyways. Posted from my Note 5
  • Why bother yourself if they are dead..i guess u are an ios user now..u have abandoned windows phone doesn't mean they are dead.Its human tendency that when they leave or abandon something they want it to get demolished disappear or in your language to be dead so that they can say 'see i did the right thing'.Well u can be right to some extent but u cnt be so sure abt it.
  • Lol well, couple of things:
    1 - I would have never left WP for iOS. I left for Android which is the superior OS.
    2 - I don't need to validate my decision with anything because I don't regret it for a single minute. Actually the only thing I regret was not having ditched WP sooner and had stuck with it right until Nokia left the scene ;)
    3 - I don't need to wish for WP8 death. Microsoft killed it themselves the moment they attacked Nokia's D&S division. From that point onwards, WP had just been on a downwards spiral to death. If it survives 2016 it will already be a miracle. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • From no angle android is superior to wm10 or ios ...i use lumia 950 and lg g4 and i know how much android eats battery crashes and lags...i see bright future to wm10 with lot of oems making wm10 phones and microsoft to market it right...now with wm10 i find it the most complete os ever...smooth like butter even on a 30$ phone...unlike android or ios..
  • I am an iPhone user (iPhone 6s, I need it for Street View app for photospheres) and seeing the iPhone can't even match the Lumia 930 and that W10 is years ahead iOs I am more than ever a Windows fan. The only thing that Windows Mobile lacks is Google apps, period. When Google apps will come to Windows Mobile that will be the start of end of Android. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • You're mistaken. Rankings are Android > iOS > Windows 8,1 > BB10 > Windows Mobile 10 Posted from my Note 5
  • No. They are WP8.1 > WM10 > BB10 > iOS > Android Android is the worst operating system ever made.
  • Android has 85% market share and for years now people continue to buy them while completely disregarding Windows Phone (1.6%!). It is quite obvious which one is better. The people have spoken. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Just because they sell a lot of devices doesn't mean it's good.  People get comfortable with their choice and stick with it - whether it's because of apps, highly invested in their services, because their friends all use a particular service, etc. We can revist numerous instances in history where a big following does not mean it's right or good.
  • Being able to maintain extremely high sales is a very good indication that you are doing something right. If Android was even a fraction as bad as Windows fanboys claim, it wouldn't be able to sustain such domination. If Windows was even half as good as you claim, it wouldn't only command 1.6% of the market after 5 years. The truth is, it sucks, especially when compared its competition. Apps aren't the cause either, they are just a symptom of sucking. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • It's interesting that you use the term fanboys as you sound just like one.  Where is my claim on how good Windows is? I use what I like and what works for me, not what the popular vote tells me to.  I've used all of the mobile platforms and I see great potential with Windows 10.  Sure, it's not perfect or even polished now but at least I don't walk around with a negative and narrow minded attitude.  I'm looking past the here and now and I'm patient enough and don't care what the "cool" kids think about my choices.  I'm also tired of these blanket comments on here saying that Windows 10 sucks..yet, not a real reason to back up these claims.  It's a new OS and it is improving all the time.  Whereas iOS and Android have been around for a very long time.  Marketing, marketing, marketing.  I also love posts by people like you that say things are sooo horrible on your phone.  Windows 10 has been exceptionally smooth and without bugs, crashes, or any other flaky behavior on my phone.  It makes me wonder if all the people talking down on the OS are just iOS/Android users talking a bunch of crap...or lack the mental capacity to see beyond their spoonfed agenda. We'll just have to wait and see how things are when Windows 10 becomes a little more polished and rooted.  Just promise us all that you won't ever buy another Windows/Microsoft product.
  • If only your wishes were reality. Come post on Android Central using your Microsoft Store app... Oh wait.
    In fact keep waiting the same way you've been waiting for W10M rollout and a Windows Central Universal app. *sips tea while using snapchat* Posted from my Note 5
  • What a terrible opinon.
  • Sick
  • We (fans of Windows) hope that you're dead. no jk we would never say that, but then again you say Windows phones are dead? why?
  • Because it is? The consumers keep disappearing, the support from developers too, the market relevance too.
    Nowadays Windows Phone went from a promising 3rd alternative in 2013 to being Blackberry's BB10 v.2.0. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • well saying "windows phone is dead" is actually alright. It is just like chromebooks are dead and MacOS are almost dead. Normal for short sighted people to say that "Windows Phone is dead". That shows how immature your business acumen is.  
  • Why do you struggle with basic definitions?
  • This is actually a Windows 10 for Mobile Device. These are built from the ground up for business. Business can create custom app stores, Continuum for presentation, Work services and access to internal resources, bitlocker, the ability to segregate business One drive and apps from Personal One Drive and apps on the same devices. Seperate Exchange and Personal email, The list goes on.  I think Microsoft is making the right move pushing this as a businesss/corporate devices.  MS is making the right move here. They are not able to get the consumer apps due to lack of phones out there, Phones out there won't sell due to lack of consumer apps. Businesses don't care if you have Whatsapp, Pinterest, Instagram, etc. As a matter of fact for security reasons maybe it is a plus that they don't currently support those apps. (Security through obscurity) As far as me I do carry a Windows Phone with no qualms due to the fact it just works for my work environment. I cannot begin to tell you how this phone helps me stay organized. Features like the ability to pin individual folders from your outlook rules to the desktop, and it will live upate when you get a mail that fits that rule (usually important). This means I don't have to sift through the tons of mail I get daily to find the important bits. I can update a presentation or slide (small changes) on the go. I have 3 exchange accounts (due to agency, mail company I work for and partner company I work with). I can keep each one of them seperate with their own rules. Then pin those folders from each. This set of features alone makes it all work it. Combined with a clean calendar system that makes it easy to know if this appointment or notice is business or personal without having to do any special configs.  Top all that off with impressive hands free features that even my Android does not compete with. One of the most frustrating hands free features on Android. It will not read the freakin text back too you. This is just basic, yet Google Now in all its glory does not do it. I have researched and asked in numerous places. Most people either say well just don't use it like that or maybe there is an app for it but I don't know. Top that off with the fact that you cannot make a freakin call or send a text message if the phone is locked. (Don't even get me started on the fact that while the phone is locked I can go through the whole hands free portion of a text message and Google Now will even tell me it sent it, only to find out it did not because the darn phone was LOCKED), Yes you can set the BT device as a trusted device, but even then you have to unlock it once (which I forget to do 90% of the time) before the trusted access even kicks in. It is like WTF. So yes Windows Phone / 10 for Mobile at this time bites for consumer apps, although there is enough to keep me happy, it is beyond awesome for business use.
  • Repeating your obsessed wish over and over won't make it true. Posted from this here device.
  • It's no longer a wish. It already happened. Just because you refuse to open the notification letter it doesn't change the facts. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • WP is dead and W10M is about to be born.. I know you are not happy with MS for making us wait from the days of WP7 .. Either you stop commenting in WP related news .. You have already moved away for the likes of Android.. Just leave some of us who still have faith in MS but yeah, frustrated as well.. Just because you feel like Wp is dead, you don't have to discourage people for having faith for the platform.. So please DJCBS..
  • "posted from this here device." Alot better then the damn "windows central for android..." Or note 5, lmao!
  • hardware wise like every other android oem besides samsung?...
  • I bet microsoft is paying these companies to make a windows phone ..just one.
  • So, let me guess. You are smarter then their buissness managers? As they tought to build one cause slowely may have succes and you, smartboy,just know how they will fail? I have a question, if you don't like windows... What the f... Are you doing here? You see me talking on shitdroid central? Nope! Then buzz off.
  • Question is... have you already submitted for the Lumia 950XL contest?
    Looks like you have a lot of unsolved issues with the platform. You should join again and help us killing it a bit more.
  • I love how people are sheep and just repeat what headlines say. Words have meaning. Dead has a very specific meaning. The platform isn't dead if they're still supporting it in the ways of providing updates, releasing new apps, services and devices.
  • WP is dead... MS is going with WinMo10 now. That's a fact.....
    .....
    Still the same thing though... No marketing, no apps, no market share, and over, and over, until MS wakes up.
  • well put it that way and we can all agree, but what I think a lot of people especially with Apple and Android phone are thinking as Windows .... phone (instead of saying Windows 10 Mobile phone
  • Strangely, I'm using WP to write this comment - so it's not dead! There are however a few commenters here who seem brain-dead!
  • There are also still people using Amiga or Atari. Nothing wrong with that.
  • The OS is dead/dying. The hardware is alive.
  • And still Microsoft makes lots of money for this quarter. lol
  • Ummmmm... The OS is improving... The 950? Oohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, blah!
  • Looks nice. Looking forward to all of the phones that should be available by the end of the year when I am due for a new phone. Gonna ride my 830 for a bit longer.
  • Inb4 "it's aluminum so it's instantly better and looks more premium than the Lumias"
  • Yes!
  • Look at the ******* bezels xD
  • Thank you. Couldn't care less if my phone is metal... the 950 is a great looking phone.
  • I completely agreeeeee...
    Best looking phones?
    8x.. 925, 920, 930, 1020, 1520... Those were the days..... Boring silver slabs are clonish.. Bound to be sheepish....
    ......
    MS should do some anodized aluminum devices! Color!
  • Really? I thought all of the 800-series devices were ugly. The 925 made me sick. The 930 was mediocre, at best, ruined by the metal band (same as the 830).
  • Any phone with a distinctive design will immediately be liked and disliked. I have a 930 and love the design. This phone is distinctive and sleek and the more OEM's joining W10 with their own design touch the better.
  • My sister has a 930 as well. It's the exact opposite of sleek, but that's not my complaint. It's got very harsh corners and is very boxy/blocky. What I hate is the ugly, light-metal band on it. The black at least had a dark band that looked decent, but that wouldn't have gone as well with the green and orange backs (which have the hideous, light-colored metal band).
  • and then here I am, a guy who sold his black lumia 930 just to be able to get another one with a light colored metal band instead. go figure.
  • and actually, hybrid 930s do look great. black band with white and orange looks great, just as black with light colored band (I actually used the black-silver combo, but had some problems with the qi on the back cover I purchased)
  • I don't why they didn't follow that design profile to 950, they only stop having that on 830 which for what I remember alot of people find it looks great and wished it to be a flagship. At that time many wished to have 830 body with 930 specs (also with Glance which 930 stupidly didn't have).
  • Those are the reasons I bought (and still use) my 830.
  • I don't know who you are but for sure your taste on things is retarded. If 925was ugly, then the toilet sit form should be the new design for smartphones. And by the way. I can cut some slack to the to feminine girls that "hai don't like ha bhulky phoooné" but this words to come from a man are.... Disgusting. By the way. 930 is not bulky at all and 800 series were superb smartphones. 920 was heavy and that is what i like about a phone. Heavy and sturdy like a man;).
  • Man, you're grasp of words is pretty poor, huh? I liked that my 920 had some heft. I actually liked the 930 design, EXCEPT for the metal band. My statement was that the 930 was not a "sleek" device. The thing was barely different in shape from an actual brick. I was fine with that, though. It just wasn't a streamlined design that was especially impressive. It was a rectangle, that's about it. Oh, and the 820 family (810, 820, 822) was superb. The 830 was a flaming disaster of a joke that Microsoft shoudl be ashamed of. They cut the 830's SoC from being a high-end one to being a budget one. The 830's SoC actually tested no better than the 820's, despite being a year newer, becuase Microsoft couldn't be bothered to put in hardware to match the price. As for the 925, it sucked hard. The coloring of the metal was bad, same as how I don't like the color of the back of any Surface since the SP2. The light colors turn me off. I preferred my sister's 16GB Zune HD to my 32GB one because hers had a dark-colored back, and mine was light.
  • I never owned the 920. Between the 930 and 925 though I must say that aesthetically the 925 was a beast. I do not know why that design wasn't repeated by Microkia. Posted from my Note 5
  • No, the HTC 8X... Lol.
    .......
    Also, read.... Are you NUTZ❓❓❓ Lol!
  • Someone let me know if this comment is translated to intelligible English later.
  • Those phones you listed are indeed good looking plastic phones (except that 930 also have metal frame around it with plastic at the back).  The issue with 950 is not the material, the overall looks of it. Even titanium phone with bland design will still looks bland even its metal.
  • The 925 was also a metal device with poly back.. That's still one of the best designs to date. Look it up.
  • Oh yeah that too, sorry I almost forgot about that you meantioned it too. My friend still have it and loves that phone. I'm also the reason that time some of my friends got Lumia, sadly I can't do it now.
  • The actual Lumias look pretty nice. I don't include those wannabe "flagships", the 950/950 XL.
  • 950 and 950 XL are stoll flagships, only the sad things they looks like those unknown Android brand mid-range lools. In short, generic design.
  • Nice to see that Docomo will offer this one... Hopefully the Vaio brand can help increase Windows Phone adoption here in Japan
  • The phone doesn't look bad but it's clear Sony no longer controls the design at VAIO even if they still own the brand. Xperias look a lot better. Anyway, I wonder if VAIO will be bundling the phone with other hardware of theirs to entice Japanese customers.
  • Agree.
  • VAIO is a separate company and Sony doesn't have a say for any of the VAIO products from Q3 2015 +
  • And? Did I say Sony owns VAIO? No. I said they own the brand. Because they do. Just look at the small letters on VAIO's products and you'll see "VAIO is a trademark of the Sony Corporation". Oh and also, Sony is a shareholder of the VAIO Corporation too. So... Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • No, Vaio is a separate entity from Sony. They are two different organizations.
  • Thank GOD it does NOT have a crap Sony glass design.
  • interesting. ive always been a fan of sony's design. i think they'd make a beautiful windows phone but we know why that won't happen...although with their lead this generation of consoles and ms expanding the xbox battle pass just the xbox one vs ps4, i think it would be smart of them to be the first to cater to the market of owners of both consoles and ms's market
  • What??? You Cray Cray.. Lol. Sony's look awesome!
  • My chrome Xperia Z5 Premium agrees. How much more awesome it would be if it were running W10M...
  • looks nice and it has nice specs.
  • Looks nice, but it's not mind blowing.. Nevertheless, it is for business, so it's supposed to be classy, vs flashy.
  • Phones are supposed to look nice. What phone blows your mind? Anyway I think this phone looks nice and looks like ms canceling 850 was a good idea.
  • Lumia 920? Mind was blown.
    Lumia 925? Blown
    Lumia 930? Blown
    1020? Blown out the water!
    1520? Blown up.
    2520??? Damn! Have you seen a tablet design since?....... Blown!
  • It seems this will be available, at least initially, only in Japan. Maybe I am wrong. If that is the case, cancelling 850 should have had nothing to do with this phone.
  • You are correct, only in Japan. But I think canceling the 850 is still good as it allows breathing room for manufacturers to make such phones.
  • Assuming MS had confirmed and lined up OEMs to take that space with equally compelling products. Otherwise, don't exit a highly competive market where you have finally gained some traction in some countries, and then try to re-enter a year (or more) later. I.e. I know Lumias were/are making losses - but IMHO Nadella should accept those losses instead of exiting and then trying to re-enter. I am afraid by then the little market share and customers they have had will have twindled even more. Unless, again, they have a serious range of OEMs lined up to go.  
  • That darned dead OS just won't stay kilt. As I noted earlier this week, MS has sold the OS for years through OEM. What is old is new.
  • Yeah, let's hope some of the OEMs make their phones available outside of Japan too.. ;-P
  • Looks great! Bring it on!
  • here come the complaints. underpowered. overpriced. looks wrong. etc etc. typical sony.
  • It's not Sony Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • its not sony anymore  
  • Well... It sort of is. Sony still owns the VAIO brand (for some reason) and is a shareholder of the VAIO Corporation. So... Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Just 5% shares.
  • It's from VAIO which separated from Sony in Q2 2015
  • Correct.
  • Nice design, but needs more internal storage than that if aimed at business customers - many IT shops disable external storage to avoid data leakage.
  • that's what OneDrive is for and Microsoft is pushing OneDrive + Office365 to businesses
  • Good point but not sure I completely buy it. Can't install apps on OneDrive...
  • Daelumia - apps can still be hosted in cloud in enterprise via RemoteApp, if they choose to disable SD, but agree more options is always better.
  • The problem is cloud storage isn't accessible when you gone off the grid, then you're files too are inaccessible. Cloud storage is great (which I used it alot) but we can't always depend on it, not to mention additional data cost.
  • Was going to mention this exact same thing. 16 GB internal is too whimpy for a Business driven device.
  • The image shows no USB-C. How can it support Continuum?
  • I was under same impression!! Home come no USB 3 -Type C.
  • Considering Continuum can be used wireless-ly it's probably not a problem. Actually I'm not even sure Continuum needs a USB-C. Just because the 950/XL have it doesn't mean it's necessary. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • You don't need USB-C  to support Continuum you simply need WiDi and Bluetooth.
  • WiDi is used only in Intel chipset. VAIO Phone Biz use Snapdragon 617, so it use Miracast.
  • https://vaio.com/products/phone_biz051/ Use Bluetooth dongle, unfortunately ie on wp does not translate!
  • Actually Continuum is Possible with Micro USB also!
  • I use Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter on 950 XL with bluetooth keyboard for Continuum.
  • The specs say wireless only...see their spec page. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • That front-bottom bezel looks ugly though. So much space wasted. Physical keys would have looked better on them Or they should have reduced the bezel size to accomodate the soft keys.
  • 100% agree
  • This phone looks great!  But no LTE band 17 (AT&T) or band 12 (T-Mo)?  Looks like it's not targeted for US customers/carriers. Also, this is a pet peeve of mine, but whenever these phones list SD card support up to 64GB, aren't they really saying they support SDXC which theoretically supports up to 2TB?  I mean those aren't available now (or maybe ever) but they can support up to at least 200GB or so with currently available micro SD cards?  I have a 128GB microSD card in my Lumia 640 which wasn't all that expensive and is freakin' awesome.  If I run across any music/video/app that I might be interested in downloading, I never have a moment's hesitation doing so since I have so much space.  For Windows Phone (and Android I guess to be fair), even a "cheap" phone supports this whereas on iPhone only the top of the line models have this much storage. So why don't the vendors specify SDXC support?
  • This is NOT targeted at the US market just like none of VAIO's latest products are. They're aimed at the Japanese market.
    Maybe one day. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Article mentions more variants to come. Hopefully this means versions that support US bands.
  • Very impressive!
  • Omg its hot. I want it! Canada please!!
  • yes allow me to say "When in Canada?"
  • Nice to see more OEMs for the Windows Phone.
  • True. Especially after seeing how MS killed Lumia design...
  • Looks great only disappointed by size and lack of camera button.
    Very interested nevertheless
  • I use the camera button all the time. I must have it.
  • I would like to see additional pics.
  • Bring it to American for that price, I will buy it.
  • first ask if El Reverso will buy it?
  • Yes, finally a mid range phone.
  • Indeed. Great for those in Japan. :) Well, assuming they can get some traction from the current 0% market share. :P
     
  • Not enough to move me away from my 1020, sadly.
  • Yep..
    Can't take me away from my 1520.
  • Yeah. I guess Lumia 1020 and 1520 still rock.
  • True that.
    They won't be other Windows phones that would knock the 928,930,Icon,1020 and 1520 off.
    950 & XL plus this phone looks really nice,but can't get my attention in order for me to buy them.
  • Nice looking phone,the down fall of it is the on screen bottoms.
  • Wow, really nice. The specs are quite good for it's price. Windows FTW! P.S Wen in India? :P
  • Soon
  • Stunning? I find it fairly ugly, and overpriced. I wouldn't consider this hardware even if it was running Android, let alone with Windows 10 Mobile.
  • It's maybe a LITTLE overpriced, unless you compare it to the underpriced Nexus devices. However, against the rest of the market, it's not bad at all. $400 would be more of what I'd expect, but it's reasonable pricing for a mid-range phone.
  • - Competition is the problem. W10M phones has a few competitions so expect these high prices.
  • Great... Costs around ₹28000 here... May b my Nokia replacement... :D
  • The constant harping about the bottom bezels is getting old. All the "design engineers" on this site really should get a job designing phones if they are such experts at it. You think there is just empty space behind those bezels or do they have to find somewhere to put all the tech everyone seems to want.
  • Oh, THIS  response again. Don't ever make a negative comments, guys, unless you're going to get a degree in the field and fix it. Accept any design that comes out without questioning unless you're an engineer. If you dont' like something in W10M, don't say something, go make a new OS and fix it that way. Shove this crap into an airlock and blast it into space. People are allowed to offer negative opinions. If you don't like them, go start a community that bans such comments, if you don't like it.
  • And any company that ignores consumer choice and preference is liable to fail. If we want less bezel (I do) then we will express that requirement. MS will hopefully hear and perhaps OEM's too.
  • Its quite strange to get so much support from OEMs of a country where Windows phones have 0 market share.
  • Yet we can't get the support from oems on areas with larger market share.
  • Well, I think it's that these companies understand their customer base--it's very..."loyal." YOu never see Japan adopt the Xbox, it's always Sony and Nintendo. They take care of their own. They likely see themselves as able to align with a culture that LOVES mobile computing using an OS that promotes it in a unique and powerful way. Vaio probably recognizes that Apple doesn't have the cultural clout, meaning Japanese OEMs can gain marketshare in Japan. Android probably offers a decent, reliable option as well, but there must be something they see in W10M to give it a go. Note that these Eastern Asia nations are big on things like Internet cafes. They could set up monitors and Continuum docks galore, allowing those folks to stop into the cafe, plug in a phone, and get a PC-like experience. Businessmen coudl make a quick stop to work on a spreadsheet or PowerPoint presentation at an Internet cafe, unplug, go to work, plug in, and have it all ready. That's the way I see it, at least. That's a potential benefit of W10M's flexibility that Android can't match, nor can Apple. Now, whether that kind of feature can get the OS beyond a business niche, that's tough to say. However, in a similar vein (and this is what I did with my 950), folks could go into an Internet cafe, plug in, and watch movies on Netflix or something (I used local movie files myself). Imagine if a big-time mobile MOBA were made, where you could play with Continuum. Imagine if those nations that are crazy about competitive LoL and DotA could carry the game on a phone, go to an Internet cafe, and play (which is a long-term thought, once the hardware's more powerful). Vaio and the other OEMs in these markets could be algining for something that fits the Japanese and Korean cultures very well.
  • It's not strange if you look at the Japanese market closely. 1) iOS marketshare there has past 60% and is still growing every quarter. 2) All the big name traditional OEMs like Sony, Sharp and Fujitsu is losing heaps of money making Android flagships.  We know Sony Mobile is in deep s**t and is only being kept afloat by PlayStation, and in fact Sharp just announced today they are being bought by a Taiwanese company. So if you are a new OEM wanting to get into mobile and you look at the market you MUST go Windows and NOT flagship specs aiming for consumers because traditional OEM using Android and went down that path has already shown to be absolutely not viable.  You don't tread the path of others which are currently sinking!  
  • AFAIK, Windos Mobile (the old one) also had huge market share in Japan back in the day - maybe (besides the dominance of iOS and crowded Android market) some of the OEMs are also hoping that some of those long gone users might positively consider a MS OS, i.e. Windows Moble, again.
  • Nobody seems interested in making a phone with Lumia 730 dimensions
  • I am happy with 4.3 inch screen.
  • Me too. My child-sized hands have difficulty using my 830 one-handedly...good thing the gorilla glass screen is so tough because I drop this thing all the time. It's the only reason I haven't yet upgraded to a 950...too big to be usable for me :(
  • Awesomesauce! Can't wait to see a realtor take pictures of my house, then plug in their phone to a dock to add those pics to the mls at their desk.
  • There is literally nothing stunning about this phone. Literally nothing.
  • Windows 10
    Continuum
  • Agree 100%. Nothing stunning.
  • Uh... and to be really honest, same for the whole Windows Phones (except the new 950, which is just decent). Most of their options are budget, uninspiring devices with underpowered specs and stuff. And I'm saying all of this being an ex WP user. It's still lacking the basics (app availability is STILL number one, despite everyone else saying otherwise), and doesn't seem to show much appeal for users to switch (note at price-to-performance ratio) considering its low market share.
  • I've scanned the comments above, and I'm surprised not to spot anyone else saying that this is clearly just a 950 reference design, in aluminium, with a slightly different back. And irritatingly it's the backs of phones that really piss me off these days. It's all screen on the front, so you'd think they'd put some effort into the back. it's fine, but it's also an 8X. So I agree - nothing stunning, in so far as this is how nice an aluminium device is going to look from the start, before people $^%& it up even more. So well done Sony for not making it even worse.
  • no good. i don't like curved back. i like flat back (e.g. the sony xperia z series).
  • Those lovely glass backs that collect finger marks continuously and shatter easily as it's glass......mmmmm
  • Finally I can think of an afordable flagship/Upgrade for my Lumia 830, I wish I could buy one Lumia 950XL which is too much pricy and out of my reach(Atleast as of now). Well Many Thanks VIVO :)  
  • Just keep watching the 950's price.....it may be on special offer.
  • Bhai! VIVO nahi VAIO h wo .
  • What a sleek phone. Definitely a Vaio. Posted via the Windows Central App for NES
  • Need to wait until see the Hands on video by Daniel...
  • "Although the phone doesn't feature Qualcomm's latest hardware, it supports Continuum." Actually, I think the SD 617 is THE newest SoC Qualcomm has currently available. It's newer than the 808 and 810 by 9 months or so, and is basically the 600-series alternative to the 950 family's chips, but newer, and IDK that any device on the market now uses the 820 and its new cores. It uses the big.LITTLE architecture that all Continuum-supporting devices are supported by. I wish these kinds of articles had a bit more research put into them before publishing, so the facts are accurate. The phone looks OK, not great. I'm generally not a fan of metal, especially lighter metal. This is a decently dark-looking device, though, so it's not nearly as bad as the horrid body of the Surfaces after the SP2. The specs are very nice for a mid-range phone, but the price is maybe $25-50 or so higher than it should be (going by the US conversion). I'd put this at $350-400, given the lack of OIS and a high-end chip, next to the $550 950. Still, this is the class of device the 830 SHOULD have been, but it went bare-minimum instead. This is the mid-range device W10M deserves, it's a very strong offering. Great job, Vaio, I hope people reward your efforts.
  • Nice looks. Does it feature "hello"?
  • For me, these phones are all too big. Hope someone jumps in and makes a Sony Z5 Compact - like Windows Mobile. Good Hardware, and not big like a formwork panel.
  • It's looks pretty nice
  • 5.5"... otherwise a "perfect" 399€ phone... (although the design on this too is quite boring, at least from the pictures)
  • Actually that is a system sony focus on business and cooperation. From the picture you can see all electronics from laptop to smartphone. Why?
    1. Best security (independent app hub)
    2. Outlook / office 360
    3. Work access security
    4. Sync all devices' files with one account (Calendar, phone SMS, apps install, alarms setting, OneNote, etc.)
    5. Continuum, an impressive any monitor or TV Mobile windows(almost real Windows 10)
  • Stunning?
    Whatever.
    Because the back it metal?
    Looks plain Jane to me.
  • What's the purpose of having 20% of the phone screen taken up by bezels?!
  • To give people something to whine about in the comments section, no doubt.
  • Dumb response to a potential customer query. If people want less bezel then that's customer choice and preference and needs to be acknowledged to gain sales. Unfortunately, smart answers like yours do not gain sales?
  • Potential customer,my ass, the comments section is always the same, if it wasn't the bezel, it would be the brand or some **** like that, people here always find some useless **** to whine.
  • Kinda pricey for a non-8xx SoC... But looks sick.
  • Blimey, that's one stunning looking phone.
  • Phone looks gud but very huge bezels in the bottoms
  • Why those OEMs don't use Windows Hello? The camera is expensive? I think it's a huge differential of Windows 10, for the average user more than the Continuum. It's a must have to me when I'll chose an substitute for my Lumia 730
  • Very nice.
  • You know for what it's worth it a good looking phone and honestly it's not the phone I want I've had basically two phones to choose from for ??? Years and I've always wanted to give MS a shot but none of them can hold my attention very long I do hope MS makes a (Surface Phone ) that has the same function as the Surface line I would love a third option in my line up of phones two is becoming like the political scene republican or demarcate we need a independent runner who ever it is just hope one of them gets it right Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  •   I don't think it looks stunning. Looks okay, looks like a metal version of  lumia design, with a few plastic bits at the top and bottom. I don't like the unsymmetrical bezels, bottom black bar is bigger than the top, likely because of the softkey menu keys at the bottom. I do like the flush design of the camera with the body. The design looks like a timeless piece, but visually it doesn't wow me.
  • Agree. Horrible bottom area. Too much black.
  • Sony always make ugly devices. Wow that back looks terrible. Front looks decent.
  • This isn't Sony.
  • Should be no more than 400$. Also the phone is nice, but the front lower bezel is huge and ugly!
  • Damn i hope this one Comes to Europe... Looks Amazing! Great for W10M to have Another not Low End Device Available! :-)
  • What about the other 5 devices on the first picture ? Do they already exist or is this picture telling us there will be more cool, kind of Surface material like devices in the near future to create a complete business portfolio ? I think they look really cool !!
  • Pretty slick! Hope T-Mobile US will get a variant!
  • Seems like a really nice device.  It's great to see someone put something better than a Snapdragon 200 or 400 in a Windows phone.  A little too much money for me, and I have no interest in a 5.5" device.  But hoping this will be a good device for other folks.
  • Ding Ding Ding we found Spring 2016's flagship device~ Here's to hoping it sells well enough to come to the States. I miss VAIO.
  • Gorgeous!
  • Mid end specs, high end build :)
  • Microsoft with high end specs, low end build
  • and lower end OS (at its current state)
  • @vhyr, the UX is not the entire story you know.
  • Hopeful that a vzw compatible unlocked phone cones out.
  • Like it!
  • I wish it was Qi enabled, 4gb instead of 3gb memory, and supports US bands + TMobile WiFi calling
  • I welcome any attempt to expand Window's Mobile
  • I think price is fine but the lack of a fingerprint reader is a sad one. There hasn't been a single windows 10 with biometrics worth a damn yet. Iris is great but still very much in beta and that needs to change too. The look is gorgeous and 617 is perfect for typical users. The HTC one a9 is a direct competitor to this but it beats it out with fingerprint and sound.
  • looks average.
  • Nice.
  • For the Japanese market this is important.
  • VAIO's first Windows 10 Mobile phone is here, and it looks stunning - or does it? I hate this kind of reporting. "VAIO's first Windows 10 Mobile phone is here" is okay. Please leave the stunning part for the consumers to decide. Oh yeah, I forgot.. WindowsCentral is just a personal blog as one 'reporter' here says.
  • Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, everyone is entitled to an opinion and like mouths, everyone has one :P.
  • As an alternative to Android and ios.
  • Looks good I wish it had capacitive buttons though. The front reminds me of the Lumia 830.
  • Looks like an old HTC something.
  • I ****** up. Shouldn't have bought the Lumia. 9 months from now..... I ****** up.. Shouldnt have bought the vaio. Should've saved up for the surface phone.
  • Luckily for you, you probably won't be able to by the Vaio anytime soon, unless you live in Japan. :)
  • ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!!!
  • Frankly, I did not like the looks of the phone. Probably it will look better in flesh, or maybe my expectations were high from viao. Secondly, I think they priced it on the higher side. A little more and it will intrude into 950 space, which is better than this in most, if not all, ways. But I am happy that OEMs and good ones at that are testing waters with windows phones. Hopefully this year the share of windows phones will improve and together with windows 10, it will lure more and more developers towards it.
  • Yes you can get high end Android phone with same price as mid-tier WP.
  • I like it!! I'm hoping this makes it stateside! Might grab that instead of the Lumia!!
  • Is there any chance for an 4,5" Windows 10 Phone in near future? I've got the Nokia Lumia 630 and, despite the speed, really love the handling.
  • On a purely aesthetic basis, I'd take the nuans phone over this any day... But luckily I'm more than happy with my 950XL. :)
  • I'm sooooo excited to see this.
  • Microsoft needs to sell more Windows smart phones overseas where they are more Popular. The Windows 10 mobile OS "Continuum feature is more popular overseas than in the States. Microsoft has to give up on this policy of only selling it's Windows 10 smart phones to AT & T. Since  AT & T does not sell the 950XL. Microsoft should have made a Verizon 950XL version and sold it there to increase Windows 10 mobile smart phone sales in the USA. Perhaps Microsoft will reveal a new Verizon bound Windows 10 mobile flagship smart phone at Mobile world congress. It could be a  lumia 950 with a new case called a Lumia 960 or maybe a "Surface" 960 if indead Microsoft kills off the "Lumia" line of Windows smart phone. 
  • If is water proof I rather have this handset to 950.
  • are you a fisherman? or just wanna take some selfies on your pool?
  • For some reason Japanese prefer water proof phones. May be some psychological thing due tsunamis.
  • It looks pretty. I'd love to be able to point people in the USA towards it. Let it be an all carrier midline phone.
  • As this will laugh in Indian market
  • Blackberry should also try making Windows 10 mobile phone. It might work for them. If uwp stratergy would be a hit. They should at least make Priv available on windows 10 too. Or make boot phones.
  • What the hell?!
    Every OEM is able to make a better looking device than Microsoft Lumia 950 and 950 XL. What is wrong with the Microsoft designers? Posted via my Samsung Galaxy S3 Neo which isn't as much abandoned as any Windows Phone on the Windows Central App for Android
  • Nice piece of hardware. Any info on global availability?
  • No. Looks to be at least initially aimed at Japan.
  • Good to see new windows mobiles but the main issue with windows phone is that APP gap with android and iOS... Until Microsoft do something about bringing apps to windows phone, these mobiles will perish...
  • Here we go again with app gap. I think I am the only person who doesn't care about this, coz I really don't find the need of an app from another platform that is not available on WP.
  • Yeah. You. Hence why everyone else uses other platforms. Look, just because you don't have an issue doesn't mean you should talk for others. The app gap exists and that's why no one wants wp, no matter how good it is.
  • I don't have an issue with missing a few key apps, but until the Windows store grows, we won't get the customers buying windows phone, then our app developers will have to start relying on other ways to make money, then they'll build for android/ios, vicious circle
  • Even without an app gap, people still won't buy Windows Phone. The UI isn't popular. Every generation fails for this reason. Microsoft keeps changing the kernel when the UI needs attention most. Same reason Windows 8 failed. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • No clear photo yet?
  • look at this space under the screen... do they plan to put the keyboard there?
  • Lol.
  • I know horrible isn't it? Stupid software navigation buttons. Such a cop out to save money.
  • its bound to be the best selling windows phone in Japan ;)
  • 64gb SD card is nothing to complain about. MOST consumers - especially in business realm - do not carry 128s... That aside....This phone's specs make great sense for business. Very happy and excited to see VAIO enter the fold. This is great for the platform and great for Japan. The phone is beautiful. Do hope a VIAO phone comes to US (and INDIA) with Verizon variants. This phone marketed to Verizon business consumers would be sweet. But for consumer , I would like to see slightly more inspired more unique design - this is too similar to the HTC One M8s, etc. I want a VAIO offering with OUT OF THIS WORLD good camera specs, and latest top of the line processor. Sell a mini projector for it as an accessory! From Sony or VIAO...
  • VAIO -> give us a big, round, HAL-looking main camera (41mp+) on a consumer VIAO Phone for Verizon with 4gb ram, fast quad core+, 64gb onboard and up to 128 SD card support in a body that looks VIAO and not HTC.
  • More like the McLaren!
  • @jared t, lol why are you responding to yourself?
  • Not sure why everyone is saying how great this phone looks, for me it looks pretty standard, I prefer the 950 XL, I might be slightly biased though as I don't really like aluminium phones. Give me the old RT black magnesium any day! Regardless, it's great to see VAIO jumping on the W10M band wagon.
  • "Looks stuning"? ugly and borring is more appropriate in my opinion. Beauty is subjective.
  • Agree. Far from stunning. 'Ok' more like.
  • Compared to the 950 everything is stunning.
  • I like this!
  • Needs Qi wireless charging and USB C.
  • Looks a bit blurry or is WC app to blame.
  • Yeah its bit blurry but u can view high res photo from images section in more
  • Isn't this just the android vaio with WP on it? Not impressed, looks like a htc, but then htc are desperately trying to look like iphone setting as they're burning money so it's apt. Not inspiring. Genetic. Prefer the design of the 950xl - but that's not saying much. Meh.
  • Damn, only in Japan
  • Microsoft should be rejoicing with all these OEM's making WP's. They really need to get them unlocked and on the MS Store and Amazon.
  • Looks like all the other devices sold on Tiny Deal...or Ali. A perfect 1030 would have been sweet!
  • Here we go again.... Another OEM on board, and the bulk of the comments are negative. 3 or 4 months back, everyone was bemoaning the lack of support. Now we have more OEM's appearing and all you hear is the same old thing. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it seems if your comments resemble support for the OS or the devices, you a metaphorically beaten with a stick. I can't understand why some people have such a downer on pretty much every piece of good news regarding W10M. Considering last year things looked to be dying, this has to be good news. As for the device, the Japanese have a strange take on design. Have you seen some of the home market cars?? Their culture is different to the west, and these were more than likely designed as a such. For those who don't like it, and have to keep banging on about it, no one is forcing you to buy one.
  • I agree that its great news, however it doesn't change the fact I don't like the design. I'm happy for any OEM to churn out new W10M phones if I like them or not. Android has 10000s of devices from dirt cheap crap to high end crap, and that's why they dominate the market. If the same can be achieved by W10M its great for the platform, even if none of the phones sell a lot, having 1000s of them available worldwide will still build market share and in turn that will help reduce the app gap. I will still only buy from Microsoft because I don't like other OEMs designs and support but many people around the world will love phones like this from VAIO so it really is fantastic news for everyone here.
  • What happened to physical buttons... Please make thin bezel of physical buttons at least Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • So agree!!!
  • I came here to write Windows mobile dead, and there is no apps :D OK, just kidding, Windows 10 is written to be universal as much as possible so any device having this OS could get all the updates regarding security, new features, new functionality. I mean windows 10 is already 2 steps forward compare to apple/android os. Having a mobile device with win 10 It is like having a mini PC where OEMs writes drivers for the features it have and MS provides the necessary updates for OS. I hope it works like that cause I am not spec... :D BTW this VAIO device looks great :) 
  • :)
  • Waiting for a video of review!
  • Continuum with USB 2.0 ?
  • Continuum doesn't always require USB. It can be accessed wirelessly also. I saw it in the NuAns W10 phone review video I think. The primary requirement is the processor.
  • Holy ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now ditching 950 and buying VAIO
  • Right, gonna sell my 950XL for this... Looks hot! :-)
  • It actually looks quite good. Surely better than the alleged Lumia 850.
  • if this phone can help windows 10 mobile gain market share then but only Microsoft can help themselves in making a good market hold in mobile and IOT market.
  • Oh no! Don't tell me from now on all future phones will have (money saving) software navigation keys? I expect them on cheaper phones but not in high end phones. Nooooooo! Look at all that wasted black space in the bottom bezel. Add that to the black software navigation bar and there is SO MUCH black below it looks horrible.
  • Enough comparing 950xl/950, 650, 550 etc etc to other windows 10 phones (vaio, alcatel, acer, etc. Etc.) as these phone are trying to give microsoft another shot on mobile industry.
  • Looks the part!
  • specs are for freaks :) this is a business phone and it is where the story ends for me :) AWESOME work! respect!! let these phones come quickly!! I need a new phone, and not sure about the Lumia 950 or its borther - even though those have good specs, it is not the most important to me.
  • isn't it a little too late? Just when the death of the platform is being tossed around the web.
  • By iVerge lol!
  • No the platform is not dead get that out of your head.
  • It reminds me of a phone from WP7 days, except for the aluminum body.
  • A featureless slab... Like pretty much every smartphone since the iPhone, which was mimicking pocketPC variants (notably later iPaqs).
  • Good!
  • Looks pretty decent, can't wait to see + read the reviews (even if they are japanese - we should learn as many languages as we can Imo we leave in a multicultural planet after all :)) along camera comparisons.
  • I'll still wait for the Surface Phone but if it turns out to be disappointing Japan here I come.
  • I like the placement of the buttons. To often, when I pick up my Lumia 830, I accidently launch the camera or wake up the screen when all I want to do is put the phone on my pocket.
  • Windows Phone focus on business... Maybe is this the way things will end for wp platform. 617 processor supports continuum so that's a big competitor to the 950. Sadly my L930 will never see continuum.
  • Does this phone have notificatione LED ?
  • never been much of an aluminum kinda guy. but hellyea for more offerings for windows 10 devices
  • Aluminium on my 830 has scratches after 1 year. Hmm. I like no buttons around my device, FM Radio, Infrared-Blaster and 5.5inch Posted via the Blackberry VKB on my LG Flex 2
  • This is exciting...they could fill the void left by Nokia Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • At the Japanese know how to make a true midrange (SD6XX) and leverage feature that differentiate you (Continuum).
  • Great Design no doubt, i just think with Bezel that size , should've used hardware buttons instead of on-screen ones
  • No camera button :(
  • Looks a lot like my HTC 8x. Which is a good thing.
  • Back to the CNC milling machine for Panos!
  • Wait i'm missing something, wasn't Windows 10 dead? Why then are third parties using it on their newer phones? weird... Besides that, woah that phone looks very nice, hardware isn't top notch like my Lumia 950xl but i still envy that aluminium white case, it's so better than the crancky policarbonate of the 950xl...Still waiting for aluminium back cover for my phone in here!
  • Gorgeous
  • Too expensive and lacking many features when compared to Android offerings
  • Looks average at best
  • Great device! But come to Brazil... I'm lost my hope.
  • Pretty sad I have to go to another site to actually see anything because Windows Central doesn't render right in the app of browser.
  • You could try android app. I have heard its much better.
  • Pass one over here and i will evaluate it for free
  • Any word if this is coming to Europe where the biggest market share of windows phone is? I am not sure that this will sell enough in Japan! In my opinion in Europe and US will sell better!
  • I would love it if my company gave it to me.  Usually, companies give devices which are old and bulky.
  • THIS is what people find "stunning" ??? Apparently all it took was to look like every Android out there. Give me the design of the 950 XL over this any day. At least it was something unique. I'd rather have polycarbonate swappable backs than this "sleek" crap, and a camera housing to distinguish itself. People are unbelievable. Complain about the bezel size on every other phone when this one has one the size of my desk.
  • Finally a real midrange phone looks great minus that huge bezel
  • Verizon???
  • THAT is what qualifies as "stunning"?  Oh, good grief.  There is NO hope for the platform if that's an acceptable standard of quality and style.  #utilitarian
  • Can you show me the differences between this VAIO phone and the build quality of the Xperia Z5, or the ASUS Zenphone 2 or the Huawei Mate S, all look gorgeus, and much better IMO than the Lumia's made of cheap plastic.
  • Looks goood, but sliglhtly on the thicker side - anyone find its measurements? Also, I guess bezel haters would not like the lower lip. More importantly though - no word on whether it will ever get outside of Japan. :)
  • This look alot like 930 , after i watch 1st photo i say in my mind " is this the 930?" Hmmmm
  • Stunning? Really....?  Bezels are huge, it looks way too thick and the back plate with the seperate top and bottom looks terrible. Hope the Surface Phone looks nothing like this. 
  • If it ever selling it outside of *** it will be a nice replacment for 8xx even without camera button BTW is there any 3rd party W10M phone out there with decent camera comparable to clearview?
  • Nobody wants a big ugly phone with no apps. Sadly, Microsoft sat on it's hands and now Windows phone has regressed to the point of being a waste of consumers income and time.
  • Sure is a lot of bezel ...
  • Looks like a HTC to me.
  • Bottom bezel is huge...
  • It's good to know that NTT Docomo now recognizes Windows Phone / 10 Mobile.
    That alone can help boost the ecosystem in Japan as they are one of the biggest telecoms in the country.
    This would help boost more developers to create apps. The next move is for Microsoft Japan to finally launch the Lumia 950 phones and for Softbank and KDDI (au) to add WP/W10M to their OS  portfolio.
  • Looks nice but also like several HTC phones
  • So when it's made of aluminum it suddenly looks stunning? People are so short minded. Because of this bullshit the surface phone will be aluminum too. Feels cold, scratches, damages, heavy, mehhhh not happy.
  • If this has a good camera and a midrange price point, I will be very interested.
  • Much nicer than the current Microsoft offering, although the specs don't quite compare. Somewhat fills the aesthetics vacuum left by Nokia. Hoping, and expecing, the Surface Phone to best this in every category. 
  • Nice looking device. Off topic, what is wrong with this site. No matter what computer or browser I use it brings it to a crawl. You guys need better web developers.
  • Some vacky promo videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMS67YHFvhg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0ID-t1oc7s
  • Ahhhhhh looks to much like my HTC One M8 Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • $424? Why I shouldn't go with another phone similars specs for half price? Is it expensive because Windows BETA 10 Mobile?
  • Wish the phone move some units and help Windows phone regain some of the lost marketshare.
  • This would have to be much, much cheaper than the Lumia 950 for me to consider it. Worse in every way except for looks.
  • Folks Vaio and other overseas markets are making windows smart phones because windows smart phones sell better over there than in the USA this is fact folks you've read that USA sales of Windows smart phones are bad bad but over seas People see they are are OK and are buying them. they are also wise enough to know Windows 10 desktop OS is a growing market working on over 180 million computers of various types and the best smart phone to work with them is a Windows10 mobile smart phone especially because of MS Universal apps. Hmm seems to me Americans are again slow to see what is coming.
  • That bottom bezel is HUUUUGE, they should've added capacitive keys there or make it smaller
  • That is a copy of Lumia 930!
  • Nice phone. I thought we were getting past building a different model for different Carriers.
  • Personally, I don't really have an issue with apps or lack off. I mostly use my phone as a phone, with checking email and surfing the web. I have a l Lumia 635, and the biggest thing stopping me from upgrading is windows 10. I have had nothing but problems on my PC since installing windows 10. I don't want the same experience on my phone as well
  • Positive sign for Microsoft. This investment by a handset maker is an endorsement of Windows Phone/Mobile.
  • I think it looks crap, those bezels are not nice and the rest is just standard. How can anyone say its stunning :/
  • Having tried the 950 XL in person, I think the 950 XL has a much sleeker design (online pictures don't do it justice).  These still look great, but that bottom bezel is too much, especially for a device with on-screen buttons.  Hopefully it serves a purpose.  Glad to see them join the ecosystem!  Yay!
  • That's subjective, for me this is better than Lumia 950 and 950XL which look cheap for the flagships they were meant to be.