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2 reasons why Google's Pixel 2 is the best Android for Windows phone converts

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Recently our Senior Editor Zac Bowden proclaimed the new OnePlus 5T as the best Android phone for Windows folks who were finally moving on to another phone and another platform. I don't deny the OnePlus 5T is a great phone (I haven't actually used one for more than 60 seconds, but still) and that company is doing some great work.

But I disagree that it is the best. And this isn't just because I prefer a different phone. I've been using Android in some form since 2010. I've seen a lot of phones come, and that OS is even responsible for my employment at Mobile Nations. Until November, I was using an HP Elite x3 every day, until the curtain dropped on Windows 10 Mobile and I decided I should probably buy a new phone.

There are many good reasons to buy phones from Samsung, LG, and OnePlus, but there's always been one great reason to buy a phone with Google's badge on it. And now, with the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL, there are two really great reasons to buy a phone with Google's badge on it.

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Software updates don't get any better

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Windows phone users are used to not only (mostly) getting updates quickly but also enjoying support on devices for a long time. Software updates aren't just important for cool new features, they're important for security.

Google has a monthly security patch for Android which is there no matter who made your phone, but with a Google phone, you know you're going to get them on time. I have a Razer Phone and a Galaxy S7 both still on the October patch. And we're now in January. That's not acceptable, and it's one of the many frustrations with the Android ecosystem. The Pixel 2, by contrast, has the January patch available and will get the February and March patch as soon as they're ready.

The same applies to OS updates. The Pixel 2 is on Android 8.1 right now, virtually all other Android phones are not. The OnePlus 5T has a beta of Oreo out based on Android 8.0, but that's still a point version behind. Samsung hasn't updated its big 2017 phones yet, either.

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Besides being first, Google also promises three-years of software updates for the Pixel 2. That's a long time to have a single phone, and based on previous track records it's longer than you'll likely get from the other big players.

Google also makes it fairly simple to update your phone yourself. OTA updates still take some time to roll out, but you don't have to wait to get them that way. Google posts both factory images and OTA update images for the Pixel 2 every time a new release is out. If you're mildly comfortable with some command line and willing to use the necessary Android SDK tools it's not that difficult. Not as easy as the Windows Phone Recovery Tool or the Insider program, but it is also not horribly hard.

How to get the latest version of Android on your Pixel 2

The best phone camera there is

Pixel 2

At some point in 2018, a phone will come out with a camera better than the Pixel 2. We'd expect a Pixel 3 for one thing. But the Pixel 2 is widely accepted as the best all-around smartphone camera right now. Yes, it only has one lens, but what Google has done in software is mindblowing.

It's fast, it takes amazing looking pictures in good and low-light, and the portrait mode is both accurate and effective. It's all done in software, and it's frankly astonishing. The camera app isn't the most feature-packed, but it covers all the bases. I'd love a physical shutter button, but at least a double-press of the power button will quick-launch the camera, and volume up will take a picture.

You, too, can look this 'good' with Pixel 2 selfies in portrait mode.

You, too, can look this 'good' with Pixel 2 selfies in portrait mode.

For folks who clung to their high-end Lumias because of camera capabilities, the Pixel 2 camera is probably the one you'll want. It takes hardware-related problems and solves them with software. And you get unlimited storage for a couple of years in Google Photos to automatically back up your snaps.

The bottom line on Pixel 2

I'm not reviewing the Pixel 2. Our pals at Android Central did a great job of that already. But these two features, in particular, are ones I think are important to the Windows converts. Sure, there are all the apps you ever want in the Play Store and it has pretty good battery life, USB-C, and a decent screen, but when you're used to having the latest software and the best cameras, the Pixel 2 will not disappoint.

I'll admit, it's pretty boring to look at, but if you're tired of giant phones or don't want an 18:9 screen, you've got the smaller Pixel 2. If you want something bigger, the same phone can be had with that bigger screen and all the same benefits. But for me, the smaller version ($649) easily won out. And it's a hell of a lot cheaper than an iPhone X.

Go Pixel 2, Microsoft it up, and have a great time. The Pixel 2 lets you do that more effectively than the OnePlus 5T. (Sorry, Zac.)

If you made the jump to the Pixel 2, be sure to drop into the comments and share what you think.

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Richard Devine is an Editor at Windows Central. A former Project Manager and long-term tech addict, he joined Mobile Nations in 2011 and has been found on Android Central and iMore as well as Windows Central. Currently you'll find him covering all manner of PC hardware and gaming, and you can follow him on Twitter and Instagram.

179 Comments
  • Yeah, but the reason why the Pixel 2 isn't the best Android for Windows phone converts is because it's made by Google. It's a phone that is literally built from the ground up for Google users. Most Windows phone users aren't Google users, and as such likely don't want to buy a phone that comes bundled with every Google service ever. The OnePlus 5T comes with a very minimal amount of Google services pre-loaded, of which you can disable most. The Pixel 2 is a different story. Also, pricing is a big one to consider. The Pixel 2 is expensive, much more so than the OnePlus 5T. Many Windows phone users haven't used an Android in years, and are likely pretty nervous about splashing $700 on a new Android phone just in case they don't like it. The OnePlus 5T being only $499 makes it more approachable, and as such is another reason why it's the better phone for Windows phone converts. That, plus the software on the OnePlus 5T is so much more customizable. It even has a dark mode, something Windows phone users love. It's just a better phone for Windows phone users personally. Camera isn't too bad, and software updates are a thing on the OnePlus 5T too, albeit just not as fast as they are on the Pixel series.
  • "Most Windows phone users aren't Google users, and as such likely don't want to buy a phone that comes bundled with every Google service ever." Nailed it!  I don't even have a gmail account.  Never had one, never will.  If it weren't for Youtube I would never have anything to do with Google. 
  • If you want nothing to do with Google buy an iPhone. That's pretty much how to do that. Otherwise you are buying into Google.
  • Yeah but Microsoft doesn't have many services or apps on Apple iTunes Store.
  • Which then means you're having something to do with Google ;-)
  • Nope, it doesn't. It means I'm sticking with Windows Mobile for a few more months, then dropping smart phones for good and either getting a Surface not-Phone or a tablet, possibly with a dumb phone as well. There's little point wasting money on a disappointing Android smart phone for one summer when the post-smart phone world is on the horizon.
  • “There's little point wasting money on a disappointing Android smart phone for one summer when the post-smart phone world is on the horizon.” Lol, “post smart phone world”.   This is great stuff.   Do you write your own material, or do you hire comedy writers?
  • I get my material from Windows Central articles. I'll leave you to decide the quality, but the 'post smart phone' phrase was lifted directly from Mr Ward's recent article. Hmm, interesting forum name there Naddy, that's not you is it? Ol' Nads is joining the fun on Windows Central with us consumers? Now THAT'S real comedy. :-D
  • yes i do have something to do with google, like file a lawsuit against market monopoly oh wait we already did that once in the EU in and out by all means of justice, we will sc**w google again cause they don't get to d*k block other sellers or markets by promoting their services when it is against all fairness in the justice system, down with google and all its evil schemes, 2.7bn get another few more rounds to go..
  • Huh? Like what? There's several Microsoft apps on iOS that work great!
  • I suggest you search for "Microsoft Corporation"  Every single app available on Windows 10 Mobile is on the app store and they now work better than they did on Windows 10 Mobile.
  • let me know when groove music or Cortana works like its integrated on WM10 : ) , sorry but you are fishing too far for those ones, android 7.1 here, even the stock apps are bad, heck the music player regardless of where you get it from is bad unless you pay for it and groove music only works for internal memory and cloud, go back to cloud9 where android was a better pla... nvm no need to hate and become one of those trolls who troll us windows mobile fans in our own website due to their quite large so do i say infact massive or gigantic .. insecurity problems about themselves that is which aside from the "insecurity" in android itself er.. anyways, i see my flaw of approach but honestly i hope for the best on android 8 and may google learn a big lesson and let microsoft store have all the google apps with full support...before the world decides to take em to court again for monopoly of the market : ) .. yes i am still a windows mobile user as well an android 7.1 user who is truely feeling sorry for every android user who believes that android is actually an efficent system, no offence but i do mean only in the hope of better understanding between the difference of use'able and efficency are two different things.
  • Which services or apps are you missing on iPhone?  I went straight from Windows Phone to iPhone and didn't miss a single Microsoft app or service.  Not only are they available, but they are much better and much more robust than on Windows Phone.  Same applies to Android.
  • I don't know about iPhone but Outlook, Groove, OneDrive and Bing all work better on Window phone than Android.
  • wait Cortana works better on ios ? sounds like a good laugh to me : )  . . . not that im blaming you for switching OS, which is entirely your choice but when you lie in everyone's face that an integrated system function utlizing app works better on a different system that does not and cannot use such features at all and will not function in the slightest level of comparison to its native environment by all means of LOGIC due to the app not being integrated and lacking permissions ... : ) i wonder what kinda wool you are wearing my friend, cause i am feeling a bit left out in the cold here....
  • Not entirely true...  You can rip Google out of Android depending on the OEM...   Zac is right, there are a lot of people that don't use Google and CANNOT use Google devices for security reasons.  Moving to a phone fully controlled by Google is not an option.   The reason there are still WM10 devices for sale... Enterprise and Government security rules that won't allow Google or Android. However, you are right about one thing... It is better to trust your data and information with Apple than Google, at least they are aren't peddling your information and using it as their revenue stream.
  • i'd rather give my data to the NSA, least they do a job of keeping some country safe...then again rather than selling my self by googles standards, i'd rather sell myself directly to someone and profit off that  : I even though i wouldn't dare to do so.. since i have no needs for such drastic measures least for now that is... then again should we, i mean any of us really be used by the likes of google ? we should all probably sue google for the profits they've gained by selling our data to companies or systems we had not even been aware of... 
  • You're right! After that you can't disagree if the iPhone is better than another iPhone. That's the (dis)advantage of the OS. Or not...
  • Let me know when the next ios update doesn't mess up the wifi or Bluetooth..heck hopefully it doesn't kill the 'old' model phones ..yet (speaks from experience; so let's not try to lie in my face and prove you are a sheep)
  • +1 ... you nailed it.
  • You're buying an Android phone. You're buying into Google. Take off your tinfoil hat, Zac ;-) I've had a OnePlus phone before, and yes it was very good. Good luck getting a guaranteed three years support. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not putting any money on that.
  • I agree with Zac though Richard... The only thing I have that's Google, is a gmail account to get access to the Play Store. Aside from that, all is Microsoft. I have "Microsoftified" my Samsung S8 and like it quite good; aside from the fact I still don't like Android as an OS but I'm good with it. :)
  • 100% agree with this comment. If it wasn't for the play store I wouldn't have a gmail account. I recently retired my beloved HP Elite X3. Hated to see it go but my new position required apps and security features my organization requires that isn't available on Windows Phones. I went with the Note8. Overall I'm happy with it. I actually enjoy it a lot more than I ever thought I would. That said. Every concern and complaint I have had about Google is much worse than I thought it would be. Screw you Android. I want to delete Facebook and all those stupid Google apps but you won't let me. Screw you. Long story short: phone great. OS features pretty good. Google kiss my butt
  • You can't delete Facebook? I don't have it on my S8.
  • I took it further. My good old Live/Outlook mail account doubles as a Google account. I don't have a Gmail and I don't want one. :) I migrated my contacts from Outlook to Google solely because I had issues trying to sync them to my Android phone - only to realize I've been doing it all wrong a few days later. Apart of that I only use my Google account for the Play Services.
  • I have a Pixel 2 XL and the only Google services I use are the Play Store, YouTube and OK Google (because Cortana sucks in Australia). Everything else I'm still with Microsoft.
  • get squarehome 2   thank you :)
  • You don't even need a gmail account, I just used my outlook.com account to create an account and test out lagdroid. Yes Outlook far and away works better on WP as does Edge etc.
  • Have to disagree. While you do need some Google services, I don't think it's the same as "buying into Google." At some point I will probably end up with an Android device, I will never ever use GMail, Hey Google, Chrome, or the Google "productively" apps. That would be "buying into Google."
  • As something of an outsider looking in, this was my first thought. It seems many Windows phone users have a big problem with Google... I think asking them to use something built on android which, while owned and operated by Google, is an open source platform contributed to by basically every company and freely available to use and customise by everyone is a far stride from asking them to use a Pixel, which is specifically designed, built and sold by Google for the express purpose of delivering Google services. I mean damn, I'm an all in android user and even I don't use a Pixel because I don't like what Google do to android! The Pixel is a great phone. But for the die hard windows phone fans, the only worse choice is an iPhone.
  • Wow that's quite naive. Android is a weapon for Google to attack Microsoft and Windows. Most of us diehard Windows Phone fans are actually just Microsoft fans. See why we might not like to support Android?
  • I don't know about anybody else but I have been researching to make sure Android has the features I like in my Windows phone since I know I'm going to have to switch at some time.  And not getting updates quickly is irresponsible of the carriers and they should be flogged for that. Most presentations I attend, even by Microsoft MVPs or on Microsoft technology, I see Chrome pinned on their taskbar and when a web browser is needed they pop things up in Chrome.  So Google already has a foot-hold.  It's not beyond reason that a number of those people already have a Google account. I am already moving everything back into the Google ecosystem from Microsoft to prepare for my eventual move.
  • Personally I decided to put my trust in the devil I know and is highly observed/regulated then the one I really don't know and have no idea who is keeping an eye on. That and having a kick ass camera/guaranteed support are top of my list. Pixel 2 is on route.
  • Well, once I have converted, I make sure to not use any MS services any longer.
  • I recently bought the Pixel 2 XL.  The first thing that I did was install the Microsoft Launcher, then all the Microsoft apps.  My email and calendar are in Outlook.  I have Cortana installed and can activate it from the home button.  If I didn't have to use the Play Store to download apps, and it didn't have a big G on the back of the phone, I could almost be convince it is a Microsoft phone!  I bought a case that covers the G!  The main thing that I do not like about it is the lack of wireless charging.  However, the battery is very good and really only need to charge the battery once a day with normal usage. I also do not like the lack of a micro-SD slot, but it does come with 64GB, which should be enough for me coming from the 32GB Icon. Not a Google fan at all, but now I have access to the apps that I need, including many work apps that I have been doing without. It is sad that I couldn't get my work mail on my Windows phones. Microsoft should have just built the Android app emulator into Windows Mobile.  Maybe they still will for their possible return to mobile. 
  • You can disable and replace all the Google services on the Pixel phones just as easily as you can on a OnePlus or any other Android phone. Just because it has Google's logo doesn't mean the user is prevented from making those changes.
  • I agree, OnePlus 5T is wonderful
  • I still think the experia xperia premium is the closest phone to a Windows phone from looks down to the camera button
  • I have a Nexus 6P Google device and I use the same amount of Google services as I did on my Windows Phone: Youtube, Maps. That's about it, all other productivity things are filled by Microsoft apps. Launcher: Microsoft Launcher, Word, Excel, Power Point, OneDrive, Outlook, Cortana and so on. For me, Android is the only OS that lets me turn it into a Microsoft Phone os some sorts. I had iPhone but I couldn't even set a default browser, custom keyboards aren't allowed on all parts of the OS, some understandable for security reasons some not so much.
  • 1... Can you uninstall anything, including all preloaded Google services, on the OP5T?
    2... Which has the better camera?
    3... Which will have the better support in the long run?
  • You're over in the Android world talking too????
  • Over in the Android world? What does that even mean, first of all?... And, second, this is Windows Central, last time I checked. WTH are you talking about?
  • Well, I can understand the confusion, the site does focus on Android devices quite a bit and they do have a WC sign on the office door. It can't completely be a coincidence... :-)
  • You nailed it, Zac. I ordered a 5T a couple of days ago hoping it will allow for me to stay away from Google as far as possible. For me the main factor is that according to public information the 5T Android version isn't bloated and can be stripped of Google's most intrusive apps. The rest of the feature set is adequate for me as I really don't need to always have the latest and greatest. If it works it's good enough for me. An SD slot would have been nice to reuse my 64GB cards I used on my Lumia 950XL phones but I opted for the 128GB version of the 5T so I doubt it will be an issue. I know many other users of Windows phones feel just as uneasy with Google as I do. I think they have very capable engineers but their business practices are unacceptable to me. There is a reason why they're having real problems in Europe where an individuals right to privacy is considered a lot more important than here in the US. There are downsides to stricter privacy laws too but I think we could use a little more protection here....
  • Absolutely right. I would not touch a Google device with a 10 foot pole. There is a reason why Windows Mobile fans have not switched to Google.
  • At some point you will have to get another phone. Why punish yourself? MS might come with something, but if you get an Android device you will have the best of both worlds. Apps.
  • Why do I have to get another phone? I have a land line, and if I find I do need one to teather a tablet 'cause Ol' Nads cancels the Surface not-Phone, a dumb phone or mobile router will do that just fine. Why put up with Android horribleness when the era of the not-Phone is mere months away?
  • Why not enjoy having apps, and apps that work?
  • Indeed. Hence my move to full Windows. I have almost all the apps I need on my old Windows phone (missing a good music streaming service though...), but I can't deny there will be much more scope for interesting things on a tablet device. There is now, but something with built in 4G that will fold and fit in my pocket may be even more useful. Exciting times.
  • Got him Zac, Devine is a Trojan or troll from Google. Also buying pixel adds to Google revenue. Shame on u Devine....
  • Do you know any midrange phone otherthan oneplus and pixel?
  • Long thing short, there is a phone which is full Google, there is another that is less Google.
    Zac says windows users would love less Google, agreed.
    The price is almost half ? Agreed.
    You say support won't be there for three years? Cool. I would buy another phone, with the total being almost similar to the price of one Google pixel phone. But your point is true too. Pixel is just a class apart and above. Nothing can match it.
    I would always opt for pixel if I were getting it for free over OnePlus. Because it is kinda the best. (note 8 is actually.) So that.
    But then pixel is wholly and solely Google. OnePlus isn't. So I would buy that if it was my money.
  • I agree 100%
  • I've been a Windows user ever since they came out with phones. I currently have a 950XL that I just replaced two days ago with a 5T. I also have an S8 from work. I really like the 5T compared to the S8, there's so much bloatware on the S8 that 5T is faster for me - using exactly the same applications. From a 950XL perspective, I do like that the 5T has a dark mode. I generally use MS apps such as the launcher, outlook, etc. I do miss the native Outlook client on Windows, that application is better than any email clients on Android. Same goes for contacts. If MS does come out with a new range of phones, i will seriously consider them again. If they can solve the app problem, i still think that platform is better than Android. The handsfree texting via Cortana was just awesome on windows phones; Android lags behind in that functionality and generally in voice recognition (at least for me).
  • The Pixel 2 and One Plus 5T has almost the same number of Google apps (the GM state how many Google apps will be preinstall nd the number has benn reduced past year). Pixel 2 also has a dark mode, I will admit 5T is more customizable. 
  • Yep you nailed it! I personally have the Note 8 and absolutely love it! Its not running the January security patch but it does have December's which is good and I wouldn't be surprised if I get the January patch soon. The only feature I wish I could get from the Pixel 2 is Android 8.1, unfortunately Samsung has yet to update my Note from Android 7.1.1. I suspect this has to do with the launch of the Galaxy S9 series fast approaching. After it launches I would be willing to bet Samsung pushes 8.1 to the S8 series, hell the S8 and S8+ even have beta access to 8.0 right now...
  • Well, I brougth a OnePlus 5 last summer, to replace my Lumia 950XL. I took me almost 4 months befor I have completly switched to OnePlus. But after much trial and error I now have a phone that works ok. The thing I miss most is the camera on Lumia that was so much better than the one on OnePlus 5. On the bright side, OnePlus resently updated my phone to the newest version (8.0) of Android, which is good. Even I can't see much difference.
  • Yeah and zac would look much more cute if he took pics using any decent camera phone anyways..er aside from that, I wouldn't want to throw my money at a direct google product , plus the android phone I invested in(yes i bought one to check android 7.1 which has support for 8) didn't have dark mode on stock android and i'm not a happy windows mobile fan about that so yeah zac is 100% on point, the price tag of my phone was somewhere around $499 at the time of purchase. heck im still not happy about this android device, it has pretty much all the hardware I need but im still not satisfied by the software part, it overuses its ram even though it has a reasonable amount, additionally the stock music player doesn't have a repeat/loop/shuffle button(on stock android 7.1) image sharing menu's appear only in certain area's but not in the drop down menu which is much more easier to have in it instead anywhere else cuz i end up accidentally pressing other icons that are along with it vs WM10 which has more accuracy and spacing between icons to make it easier to deal with, the slow update phase is bad no matter what manufacturer it comes from, look at alcatel's windows mobile device; do they have any update issues ? I doubt that they do, the worst part is that all stock apps on a stock android phone is pretty useless regardless and disabling most stock apps? I doubt you can even do that whereas on a WM10 or windows phone you don't really need to disable stock apps cause they are USE-FULL & do everything you would ever want. so yeah either I'm biased a windows mobile fan/user or im high else I've lived in the comfort zone of my windows mobile devices that never required me to bother about having to download a hoard of bloatware apps just cause my stock apps were this useless? , I prefer to go with the latter as my experiences with android have hit a new low with 7.1, here's to hoping that 8 is actually decent and worth the effort, p.s F google for not giving the windows store google apps since they were so scared of the possibility that WM10/WP would outsell em considering how much better optimized the os and its apps were vs the bloat and malware infested play store was and still might be in certain ways. 
  • @Richard, how much of the Google software can be removed from the phone.  I relize a Google Play account is required for the store, but what about all the other Google stuff?
  • As much as can be removed/disabled on any other Android phone. You need to keep Play Store obvs and a Google account active, as well as Google Play Services. You want MS Launcher? No worries. Cortana instead of Google Assistant? Absolutely fine. Stop Gmail sync and use Outlook. Disable Calendar, music, movies, the lot if you don't want it. Just keep the vital services running. This whole "ZOMG ITS GOOGLE" thing is honestly ridiculous. You'll want to keep the Google camera app because it's very good and it's how you get the best from the camera on the phone, but you don't have to use Google Photos. Put on a third-party gallery app.
  • On my OnePlus 5 I have deleted Google Play Services and Google Play App Store still works fine - can download stuff and run updates manually.
    .
    Oh and anything from Google and OnePlsu has been deleted.
  • You deleted Google Play Services and the Play Store. Lol ok then. That's not clever at all.
  • As I said I deleted Google Play Services.
    .
    The app store on Android still works for updates and downloading stuff.
  • That will prevent OTA updates
  • Most applications rely on Google Play Services for some of the Application Program Interfaces (APIs) they use - location is a big example of this. You should re-enable that so your apps work correctly.
  • Application, which rely on Google Play Services are not compatible with OHA Android. Why would you want support such applications?
  • 'Application, which rely on Google Play Services are not compatible with OHA Android' !!! Seriously? AOSP doesn't have many crusial API and most Android apps on Play Store rely on Play Services. Account sync, Activity recongigation, Admob, Android Auto, Android Pay, Analytics, Cast, DHCP, Health API, Mapping API, Location Services, Game Sync, DRM, Android Wear API all are managed by Play Services. Disabling this will even hamper many Microsoft apps not to work properly because they rely on that on Android also. 
  • Microsoft needs to make a OneDrive oriented 3rd party gallery app like Photos on Windows. 
  • Agreed 100 percent...The whole Google thing is a load of crap.   MS is JUST LIKE GOOGLE....APPLE iS JUST LIKE MS,  apple is JUST LIKE GOOGLE....MS IS JUST LIKE APPLE!   They are all the same.  
  • I disagree. Apple wants you to buy 100% apple hardware products and software services and do their best to lock you in. They make their money selling hardware with large margins because they sell the user a device with every high-priced feature, even if the user dioes not need it, and need you to keep doing that. Google steals other people's tech and gives it away in Android so they can make money on ads. They need you to use as many Google services as they can so they can maximize the amount of data they have about to you sell. Microsoft is most successful when they (as Dan pointed out) build a tech platform for other people to customize and sell. They make their money indirectly from the customer by selling to the OEMs. The classical Microsoft model does not require selling a user's information (a la Google) or selling a limited selection of devices with high margins and features a user may not want (a la Apple) it encourages an ecosystem of several vendors sellign competing products that target different niches and price points. It untimately is a more ethical model. Now, is it questionable whether that model can survive in the face of Google and Android, and Microsoft has obviously tried to implement some of the Apple and Google ideas. In some cases it has worked (Surface line) in others not (phones) -- but Microsoft nonetheless remains, in my opinion, the most ethical of the 3 companies in terms of their business model.
  • Oh, and this is why, if I have to switch, I will get an Android phone, but not one from Google. It gives the least amount of money to either Google or Apple if I do so.
  • That is because google is nothing more than an advertising company, not a tech company.  They make their money from ADVERTISING, not from selling you an overpriced phone with their services on it.
  • Uh selling their products at a high margin is literally Microsoft's schtick, in fact everyone here defends them for doing that so that they don't "undercut the OEM's". And Windows 10, as standard, is all about the sale of information, so I'm not really sure where you are getting your information that any of these Companies are in any way different to one another. They all care about one thing, and one thing only, profit.
  • Google really doesn't care what device you use. They serve ads no matter what you use to access the internet. Windows, Mac, Android and iOS all bring Google ads to their users. Android just makes it cheaper and easier to access the internet.
  • Thanks for the comparison, Noirsoft. You explained it simply and nailed it: i dont whant any adds , security is parimont and freemarket/OEM compition/price is very important.
  • Nearly 100% of Google's revenue stream is based on the use of user informatoin.  Microsoft and Apple make essentially nothing from user information. That is a several BILLION dollar contrast. This is where I should also remind people that Google's internal policy STILL ALLOWS ENGINEER level employess (which there are a lot) to open, query, and read ANYTHING a user stores on a Google server. (With Apple and Microsoft all user data is encrypted to them.) Some companies have far different ethics and trying to PRETEND they are the same is foolish.
  • Interesting, I post the comment "Welcome to AndroidCentral!" and it is deleted. Meanwhile, the trolls flood this site, talk about how us Microsoft fans "suck Nutella's ****" (racism, gay bashing, and personal attacks all in one) and those comments get to stay - and the editor even brags about how much their traffic has increased because of it. Way to support your base and target audience, AndroidCentral!
  • Welcome to Windows Phone Central @nohome!
  • Winging, constantly. At the end of the day the Microsoft's own apps for Android are better than the apps Microsoft built for their own phones. It's the harsh reality. Calm down with the oh I will never touch Google, meh meh meh. They have done ALOT of things right, that's why Microsoft is supporting them with their apps. The android market share is large for a reason. They are great at what they do.
  • And besides the core that you need to make a phone actually run, you don't have to use any of it. Sure, the Pixel is the best Google phone. But it doesn't have to be. I basically use nothing of Google's on my Pixel 2. Assistant is bad ass though, as is squeezing it to activate.
  • I find it's even easier to avoid Google 'services' by not buying an Android phone. Works a charm.
  • A better name for this article:
    "2 reasons why Google's Pixel 2 is the best Android for SOME Windows phone converts"
  • No, they could say that both phones are best for all of us WP fans, because in 2018 both phones are worlds better than any Lumia device we can get our hands on.
  • If they could only run Windows they might be. Still, not really a problem unless a person runs out of Windows phones before the not-Phones arrive.
  • You really do like bite your nose off to spite your face Andy
  • I don't really understand what you mean there. I have all the devices and functionality I need, and am looking forward to the next MS devices so I can do the same with less boxes. And I don't have to put up with Android awfulness either, it's a win all round.
  • Doesn't change the fact that these Android devices are objectively better in every way than our Lumias. I don't see why we wouldn't want one. That doesn't take away from the fact that we want Andromeda devices, but these are available NOW, and they're pleasurable.
  • Well, I don't think I'd enjoy them, but some will. Problem is in a few months time smart phones be superseded by not-Phones so it's a bit of a waste of money for such a short time.
  • Making myself naked in front of Google, who are trying to grab as many private information as they possibly can is not what i would call pleasurable.
  • Can I use the Microsoft Launcher? Can Outlook be my default contact manager? I heard Google doesn't play nice in general with Microsoft. 
  • You heard wrong. You can use MS launcher just fine. And Outlook. Microsoft apps on Android are very good. Just because the badge on the phone says Google don't be tricked into thinking otherwise. Outlook doesn't manage contacts if you're referring to being built into the dialler. It could, you can change most apps on Android. Microsoft would need to build it to do that.
  • But Outlook can sync contacts with the contacts app (I did that on my S8+ and disabled contacts syncing from google account). At this time it can only sync contacts from primary account but it appears they will enable other accounts at some point in the future. Only issue with this is that WhatsApp thinks these contacts are hidden and doesn't sync by default.
  • Outlook cannot be your default contact manager. I still havent found a good way on Android to use outlook.com as my main contacts management. I finally gave up and imported all my Outllook contacts to Google and I am maintaining them there. Pictures sync across all devices (something MS cant do even across Windows/Web) and integration with system apps works properly. 
  • On a Samsung phone you can, as you can add your outlook.com address as an Exchange Account. You can manage your contacts and Outlook Calendar aswel. After my Lumia 950 XL died I went for a Nokia 8, as a replacement, for faster software updates and the pure Android experience everyone was talking about. Turns out it's not for everyone, not for me at least. I have two outlook.com accounts, with 200+ contacts each, and I just wanted the whole thing to work, turns out pure Android can't do that, so I returned it, and went for an S7 Edge. Slower security updates? Yes. Will Oreo even come out on this? Don't know, but all the improvements included in Oreo which I cared about (Night Light and Picture in Picture for example) are already implemented by Samsung on the Nougat. Smoother out-of-the-box experience? Definitely. Amazing pictures? Not as pure as on a Lumia device, but far better than anything else, great manual controls also. AOD is also something it's done right by Samsung, the only things I miss from my Lumia is the double tap to wake and the Dual Sim management, with two separate dialers. Other than that it's perfect, coming from a Windows Phone.
  • I used a pixel today. Didn't like the plain interface one but. I have a V30. I appreciate LG's slight tweaks.
  • Ehhh, no thanks.
  • Then what do you suggest?
  • Waiting a few months for a not-Phone? Dumb phone and tablet combo? Buying an Android device and removing all traces of Google with a hammer and chisel? There's plenty of options.
  • Not phone will solve NOTHING
  • Nobody is looking for a device to solve anything.. That's old thinking. If MS releases a new Surface the point of that device will be to appeal to the individual users needs, and provide a terrific UX, as Surface devices have always provided.
    ..............
    If you're a WP fan, and are buying any device with hope that it will fix some position, or issue, with MS, or the ecosystem, you're buying that device for the wrong reasons. Andromeda is simply another PC form factor. MS is not making this device so Windows Phone fans can have a halo device for thier cause. Although, many of us will feel that device is our representation of the continuity of Windows on Mobile, myself included, but that's on us, not MS. We shouldn't lose site that this device is not supposed to be in direct competition with anything else on the market, and especially in direct competition with any current ways of doing things, such as what smartphones handle. So, it doesn't have to "fix anything" it just needs to be a good device in it's own right.
    Drop the competition BS.
  • Yep. I'm so tired of smart phones. I want to move on and it seems that MS may just be in step with my thinking. Scary. Also, it will solve quite a lot as I will be able to run LibreOffice on it which I much prefer to MS Office (MS Office is OK and I do use it for work stuff, but I much prefer LibreOffice).
  • Andycalling, do you use onedrive? just wondering about your prefrence for LibreOffice because i dont use MS office that much but i really like the 1 terabite of one drive storage that comes free the office 365 subscription. Iam also really looking forward to the not phone suface folding andromida devce and keepimg my 950XL till it breaks/quits.
  • Lg v30
  • Since my 735 was dying and I'm on verizon...I did look at this phone (pixel2 and xl).  There are only two reasons I ended up with a galaxy note8 (although I would wholeheartedly have preferred, and still do, a windows phone)...one was that it was on sale at a considerable price over the holidays, but far more importantly...and a definitive showstopper for the pixel 2 (and xl) was that the pixel 2 lacked micro SD support.   I have a ton of music and stuff that I always like to have with me, and DO NOT always have access to internet.  I do work in places and am often in places where there is no access to internet (whether cell or wifi).  So the SD card storage for me was a necessity.  I might have considered it though had they offered a 256 gb version...
  • Hmm interesting points. These are some of the reasons why I had one.
  • And this https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/nov/22/google-track-android-... is why you don't want an android phone period, regardless who males it. Just the latest in a long line of dodgy behavior. Considered it but ultimately this company just can't be trusted not to try more crap in the future.
  • And this http://www.zdnet.com/article/phony-android-security-apps-in-google-play-...
  • The scroogle play store is a mess.  They continually sell you on how safe it is and YET, it continues to get apps in it with malware and adware and more and more garbage.
  • You guys have said this about three different phones by now.
  • Remember, just because they write for the same site, that doesn't mean that they would have the same opinion on this.  Did you see Zac's comment as the first comment on this article? He is very clearly disagreeing.
  • I went with Samsung because I didnt want to lose Windows Phone features like
    1. Always On/Glance
    2. OLED screen
    3. Dark theme (not completely, but Samsung has the most complete theming I've found)
    4. Iris Authentication (yes, I actually prefer it, with figerprint backup) I really wish there was a dedicated camera button, but I dont think any major flagship is doing this now.
       
  • Pixel 2 has always on glance. Maybe should have mentioned it as number 3. It doesn't really bother me either way though personally.
  • Yeah, these are the very reasons (except #3, you need a Samsung account to download the themes but I refuse to create one) I went with the S8+. I used a package disabler to disable apps that Samsung does not allow to be disabled. So far I am happy with it.
  • The Pixel 2, like all things Android is too Google-centric and bland.   I don't have a Google account anymore, I do not use Google products, it's my choice.  The mobile platform for Windows phone fans is Windows 10 Mobile, if the panicky "its-doomed" apparently pro-Windows sites and media had supported it, it would have given Microsoft reason to keep supporting it.  Instead with each release, the 'pro' media would whine and ***** and complain the platform was dead, it went on and on until their wish was granted. I don't care how good a Pixel is or how I can disable certain Google services, I don't want Android or iOS, I don't like either.  Windows 10 is nicer to use and it's core applications are nicer to use alongside my PC.  
  • I think Sony is closer to Microsoft/Nokia: dedicated camera button and closer in price (especially slightly older models). Software updates not as good as Google but pretty decent.
  • If only they put their all into their cameras. And their phone design that hasn't changed in forever. I agree though Sony is doing well with software updates. I got a mid ranger knocking around more up to date than a Galaxy S7.
  • I love the "has'nt changed in forever" style of the sony phones....makes them different than the samlgwei cookie cutter phones in the market.  
  • Your spot on and with the 3 new phones they announced this month I would go with Sony.
  • Saw the handwriting on the wall in September 2016. My old Nokia 1520 was on it's last leg and I studied long and hard for a relacement. I detest anything Apple, so the iPhone didn't even enter into the disussion. I chose the Pixel XL when it was released that October. Yes, it was overpriced; still a great handset. I've never looked back. Don't miss Windows Mobile one bit; I thought I would.  I chose not to update to the Pixel2 XL, not because it was the latest and greatest, but because my Pixel XL is still a great phone and works perfectly. Pure Android and it gets the latest updates immediately. I liked the Windows Mobile ecosystem and would have stayed with it if support had not faded away. If there was a full-blown X86, win32 Windows Mobile phone on the market, then i'd go back..................no such animal. 
  • The best Android Phone for Windows Users is Nokia 8. 1. Zeiss optics 2. Glance Screen 3. Double tap to wake up the phone 4. Install Microsoft Launcher, Cortana, OneDrive and MS Outlook to sync the contacts from outlook account and you would have relly good reliable phone with really amazing hardware specs. Also, cheaper than Google phone and do not have any preinstalled apps compare to i.e. Samsung.  HMD Global has been started updaing Nokia phones with Android 8.0 Oreo. Nokia 3 is really good too but do not have any of Zeiss optics, Glance Screen, Double tap to wake up the phone options, but has 5.5 '' screen.  
  • All the last three are also on the Pixel 2. You can throw Zeiss optics around all you want, the Pixel 2 camera is just better.
  • I am not going to argue because I did not own any of Pixel phones and cannot compare pics side by side. But  Zeiss optics is Zeiss optics and the cameras are the best. Camera app plays significant role too. Android default camera is nothing compare to Windows phone camera app. By the way, Griffith Observatory in LA has huge telescope with Zeiss optics.
  • Zeiss optics are nice, but only one piece of what makes a good camera. Much bigger factors are the sensors and post capture image processing to create the jpg. 
  • The camera on the Nokia 8 isn't nearly as good as the one on the Pixel phones, or most other flagships for that matter. The Pixel 2, Galaxy S8/Note 8, LG V30 and OnePlus 5T all have some manner of always on display. All those phones also have double tap to wake. This can be done to literally any Android phone. Just because the Pixel 2 ships with Google's launcher doesn't mean you have to keep that as your default. Same with any of the other services (except for the Play Store).
  • Here in Canada you would pay around $1015 CAN for 64 GB Google Pixel 2 phone without any contract. I paid $750 CAN including currency conversion, shipping and import duties. The battery in Pixel 2 is 2700 mAh Nokia has 3090 mAh plus dual sim plus SD card plus the screen is 5.3 '' compare to 5''
  • 10 reason why Nokia is.
  • I'm waiting to see the new Nokia 9 phone spec that is meant to be announced next week. Iris scan, wireless charging & micro SD card support are all features i want in a phone. Headphone jack is desirable to. As much as I like my Lumia 950, it's pretty much pointless now as the platform is dead.
  • Is Nokia at CES this week? Lee Power.
  • That IS funky because although my Lumia 950 still receives "updates",  there was no single new features since almost 2 years. Whereas my new Galaxy S8 has much more features while still being on Android 7 !!! Also, what was unique of Windows Mobile (or at least characteristic) was the hardware from the 920 that sets a benchmark. To "upgrade" from a 950, I needed a double SIM (mandatory) and wanted at least to have glance, great camera, wireless charging, a great screen (AMOLED if possible).  And every Android smartphone is missing one (One plus lacks wireless charging and great camera) or another (Pixel 2 lacks wireless charging, double SIM). Only the Galaxy is truly an upgrade in every way. All the others are sideways as you have to give in something. 
  • Refer to my post about Nokia 8 has dual SIM and great camera. I am on Adnroid 8.0 already. By the way Galaxy S8 is $1100 CAN without the contract with Rogers Canada.
  • Lg v30
  • the Lumia 950 still has a better camera. everything else pales in comparison. been there, done that, Lumia remains king.
  • The 950 has a great camera, yes.
    I would not say everything else pales in comparison. I'm now using the S8 and I find it better on many shots, just as good on most others. It has a much better panorama mode and most of the nice manual options I had on the 950. I do miss the dedicated camera button a lot though. 
  • Also using an S8 and Note8 here, and like the camera.  However, if you head over to GSMArena, you can do a side by side comparison, and in 95% of the shots/test taken, the Lumua 950 still beats the S8 and the iPhone 8.  (This was also surprising considering they did their tests when the 950 was released and it had the lower quality 'beta' version of the Camera App.)  
  • Since the camera is a minor consideration and I think my 950xl will hold out another year, I'm going to keep an eye on the Razor. That 120htz screen has me intrigued.
  • Pixel 2 is a good phone in theory in use other than the camera it is on a case by case basis.
  • Whoever that talked ms out of Windows Mobile must be crazy and a failure
  • Whoever that talked ms out of Windows Mobile must be crazy and a failure
  • And here I was thinking this would be an article announcing LineageOS support for Pixel2. No G-crap for me thanks.  No iGarden either. Guess I'm sticking with Lumia 950XL until the always connected PC revolution begins.
  • Everyone I know have Android once they saw my S8 with Microsoft launcher, loved it they rather have that ms services than all Google Service because they have Gmail account only for the play store, that Launcher really do good
  • Oddly, Richard kind of misses the point. The Pixel 2 may be a fantastic phone for Google users, but most Windows phone converts want to de-Google their Android devices. Why pay hundreds more for (debatable) secret sauce that is mostly tied to Google usage? 
  • No memory expansion, no buy. My 640 is about to die, edge is already dead, no joy when it comes to browsing the whole os is broken. Then there is the twitter app still stuck on 140 characters. ..
  • Alcatel Idol is $99 dollars at Microsoft Store.com right now for the next month. Or try hard resetting your 640. I have a spare 640 with the last fast ring update on it and it works perfectly well.
  • When Microsoft came up with Tiles instead of icons it was sold. It is very difficult to step back to icons.
  • There's a lot of fit and polish that android is missing. I think it'll be a full time job for weeks to get it to 75%,of what we're used to on w10m
  • Is there an android phone with the equivalent of continuum? After my 950xl it'll probably be the pixel xl 2 for the camera. SadTrombone.com
  • Wah wah wah waaaah...
  • Samsung phones have an feature called DEX you should look into.
  • After reading this and the comments here I'm even more convinced of how right Microsoft has been with Windows Mobile, and how poorly wrong Android truly is. Irregular or no updates. Drop to the command line to stay current on updates on a Pixel 2? No camera button. A sea of icons in the UI/shell. $700+? WTF??? Sorry, I'll stick with my Lumia 950 XL a while longer.
  • one thing I like about Android and Google phones is if theres something wrong with it, acting funky or broken in some way you just have to pop into a local store and.. hey wait a minute....
  • The Pixel 2 comes unlocked. It's able to work on all 4 major US carriers. Oneplus 5T leaves out Verizon and Sprint.
  • Given the current situation, I have no problem with articles discussing various android phone. But it's ludicrous to say that ANY ONE Android phone is the best for Windows phone users. One of the benefits of Android is the wide variety of phones that match any budget. Currently I'm still using my Windows phone but also Have an Honor 8 and a Huawei Mate 9, both of which are excellent phones (and would have been great with Windows on them). I have absolutely no interest in either One Plus or Pixel, so neither is the best phone for me.  
  • Unfortunately Google Pixels aren't available in mobile carriers stores worldwide like Samsung, LG or HTC. It is true that same thing applies for OnePlus too.
  • I would probably go for the Pixel 2 XL, coming from a L950 XL DS, but the fact that it does not has a Dual Sim configuration, which is a must have for me, my choice will very likely fall on the LG V30.
    It would mean i have to wait for updates a little longer but Dual Sim is the overruling master factor for me.
  • Now this is a phone recommendation I'd wholeheartedly agree with for someone coming from a Lumia. Always on Display (Glance) ✔️
    Double Tap to Wake ✔️
    Amazing Cameras ✔️
    Fast and consistent updates ✔️ Plus -
    Awesome dual speakers
    Nice screen
    Raise to wake
    Squeeze function for Google Ast
    Portrait Mode front and back Only things missing are headphone jack and wireless charging I have the Note 8 right now but still really want a Pixel XL2
  • "This is an Android phone but it has 5% less Google than this other phone, so as a Microsoft fan I prefer it". Sounds totally normal, right?
  • Purchased a Pixel 2 XL and easily the best smartphone I have owned. I also carry an iPhone but now prefer Android. The Pixel gives you the smoothness of an iPhone but Android and it is the first Android phone I have seen able to do this. Highly recommend the Pixel 2.
  • No, it really is not? Why: To big. Sony XZ Compact is the only android device that has decent hardware at a reasonalbe size.
  • Not everyone wants a tiny phone. Most poeple want larger The market has spoken
  • I don't deny the Pixel 2 is a robust Android phone with a deservedly good reputation (unlike its larger brother). But the best Android phone for Windows Phone converts? When it's missing wireless charging, a MicroSD slot, and a headphone jack? Honestly, any one of these would probably knock it out of the running under a skeptical eye, but all three--with two of them are basically common features for Android handsets? I really don't think so, not for WP users, whose best days were characterized by all three. 
  • This person gets it. I have a friend with a pixel 2 and I have a s8+. Without the SD, wireless charge, and headphone jack, I'd feel ripped off from a "premium" phone.
  • We were accustomed to updates on WPs because wp needed them. This is hardly an argument for android, especially with phones currently already on Oreo.
  • You forgot to mention the part about how pixel2 is malware resistent from the junk living and thriving in the google store...oh wait it's not!  Stop pushing people on to junk please 
  • The only problem is, there isnt a single Android that can do hands free testing like Windows Mobile and Cortana.  Cortana used the Call Stream on Bluetooth to handle the notifications.  With Android you cant listen to the radio or anything else but the Media stream of the phone if you want to do anything hands free.   Would love to have Windows Mobile back if it had apps. I use SquareHome launcher on my LG V20 and it is terrific. Feels like Windows Mobile and the phone is fast. There is one app on Android that tries to use call stream and I cannot post it in my comment or I get spam filtered.  The developer is working on fixing it. It worked until latest security updates.
  • I used Launcher 10 initially when I switched to an S8+.
  • Pixel 2 after Lumia 920, 925, 830
  • The OnePlus 5T is definitely not the best choice for Windows to Android converts, but if you're on a budget and don't want a monthly installment, then it's probably the best option for that person. However, I do not agree that the Pixel 2 or 2XL are the best either. The Pixel 2 doesn't have features Windows users have had for 2+ years. Wireless charging and infrared face unlock are 2 must have features for me with updates direct from the source a close third. It comes down to what is more important to you. If you want updates direct from the source (i.e. Google), then Pixel 2/XL is the best phone for you. If you want the infrared face unlock and wireless charging, then the Galaxy S8/S8+ is for you. I switched from the 950XL to the S8+ a couple months ago, and I've been very happy. I've received monthly updates to the Samsung Experience and Android OS (not always both each month), and Android Oreo is in beta with an expected release month of January or February. Comparing cameras is so subjective. To me the S8 takes better photos, but that's not to say that the Pixel 2's photos are bad because they aren't. The different camera modes that you can download are awesome too. I didn't want to lose wireless charging or the infrared face unlock I got used to with Lumia, so that instantly took the Pixel out of the running for me. I use wireless charging at work and at when I sleep, and my battery is always topped off. I do plug in when I'm in the car or if I'm in another room in the house. I don't see it as having to use just wireless or just a cable. That's silly. TL;DR: If you want direct updates and don't mind losing a few features the 950 had, then get a Pixel 2. If you want to keep all the 950 features, then get the S8. Of course both phones have similar features and features that Lumia/Windows mobile never had.
  • My story is a little different as I am not an old Windows Phone refugee, but instead, am one who bought into the idea of Win10 Mobile and its hopes and promises and dreams, and was looking for a viable opportunity to jump on-board. Heck, I'm STILL looking forward to whatever this [quote unquote] "Surface Phone" thing might be, and looking towards it from a "might you be what I hold aloft at phone upgrade time in fall 2019?" perspective. But other than having snagged a $40 Lumia 520 once, with pay as you go service at the start of the Windows Insider Program to be able to keep a finger to it all (and which ultimately only saw very very little use), I've never actually owned a Windows Phone even though I did drool over the Lumia 1520 quite a bit. So, I can't really speak too much to the Pixel 2 / Pixel 2 XL / 1Plus phones from the specific perspective of what they mean or how they'd fare for Windows evacuees. However, as a current Pixel 2 XL owner (I say go big or go home), I can at least vouch for the thing. I think it's an incredible handset! And there is a tremendous amount of overlap between why Richard recommends the 2, and why I sought out the 2XL (having been coming from an iPhone 6 plus at the time). I feel that in the ways that Android is better than iPhone - bigger, more sophisticated, more flexible, customizable, and fluid OS, with the biggest app selection, the most users and the ability to make it your own, this Pixel is an Android through and through. But in the ways that Apple is better than Android - lean, clean, fast, pure, nearly instant software updates / upgrades, and longest, most consistent support, this Pixel is as close as you're probably ever gonna a get to an Apple in the Android space. Perhaps there is no such thing between Apple and Android as a perfect "best of both worlds"...but I truly believe this phone (and its smaller sibling) are the absolute closest we have (and will probably ever have) to just such a thing. Now, maybe this is a terrible analogy, and certainly is not perfect even if it actually does manage to be at least vaguely, generically sound: but from my "outsider looking in" perspective, it seems that in the ways Apple is better than Android, Windows was more like Apple. And in the ways Android is better than Apple, Windows was more like Android - so closer to the better one on both fronts. If that's the case, then perhaps the Pixel 2 / 2XL is the ideal phone for those leaping out of Windows after all, as its strengths are roughly analogous to the strengths of your old Windows phone in the ways I've pointed towards above, minus some of Windows' most remarkable advantages and hallmarks, but with the tremendous strength of being a healthy, thriving, vibrant ecosystem, which Windows never REALLY was even in its finest days. Jez IS right though, about the Google services and how integrated they are. If that's a deal-breaker for you, then it's a deal-breaker. As for me, I use a mix of all three company's services, and frankly find Google's to be pretty darn good. So, no, it's no bother to me at all. Only "caviar emperor"* and all that. Cheers! *=Yes, yes, I know it's caveat emptor, and yes, I know it has nothing to do with ruling a people or with fish eggs. But the other way is just funnier! ;-)
  • Hi all Joining in all the dislike of Apple,  I have ditched my model 6  as a second phone to my 950XL,  and purchased a Huawei Mate Pro 10. Its planned role is to  provide access to  key apps missing in the 950.  It too enjoys Android updates monthly and is a magificent machine  capable of holding my entire very large CD and photo libraries. If anything it is speedier than the 950 and services well all the Microsoft apps. Also pure android systems  lack all the app noise provided bt Samsung etc.  I am using my 950 less and less but will be an earlier purchaser of windows phone equipped mobile. Roger Stenson
  • did the problems with the large pixel 2 get fixed?
  • Mostly! The blue at off angle, that's not going to be fixed, I'm afraid. I don't think a fix is possible for it since it's hardware. But for most users (including me), it's a non-issue. I don't even notice it unless I'm being extra mindful of it. The dull colors - fixed. The burn-in issue: they've upped the warranty to 2yrs and it will cover premature burn. Also, they've slightly reduced the max brightness, and have the nav buttons gray down after a few seconds of inactivity. They're working on getting the nav bar to shift between black or white depending on the app. That is still a work in progress, and until it's done, I won't call the burn-in mitigation fix solution "complete". But it is coming, and they've got your back on warranty. The only other issue is shadow detail crushing at absolute minimum brightness. It's real, and it's also unfixable. But all you have to do is turn the brightness up just the teensiest bit, and you're good. I believe they also have the NFC popping issue fixed as well, but I never suffered from it, so I dunno. I've noticed a "weirdity" or two here or there, but that's Android for ya. The strangest two impacting me are when a call comes in, the screen doesn't light up til after I hit the power button on the side, and on Facebook, I'll be typing away, hit the backspace button, and sometimes the text box will just go away. I don't lose my content, but I have to back out of the comment, and come back, and then it's there again. But it is frustrating. Still, all in all, I love this phone! And while I'm not gonna hard hard commit myself to this unbreakably, I really do feel that short of MS bringing out a "Surface Phone" that is truly viable and truly awesome, I think I may just be a "Pixel guy" for the foreseeable future. It takes what's so good about Android and marries it to as close as you can get out of Android to what's so good about Apple. It's not an absolutely perfect "best of both worlds".....but it's as close to one as can be had, I think! :-) Cheers!
  • The best android phone for Windows convert is Windows Phone with improved interface. The interface that does not float around, has tiles named and staying in place. That's all what is to it! Microsoft has to finally understand the fact that problems of their platform is in their programming and design, not in the lack of apps or other unknown alien problems! Please, stop publishing these childish articles about converts. There are no converts at this point left and chiefs of Microsoft has long ago switched to the iPhone themselves... sic!
  • Always loved the Pixel (formely Nexus) idea because of pure Android and fast update, but the lack of MicroSD card is a killer and now since Pixel 2 no headphone jack (and a year before they were laughing at Apple for removing it...), another killer. Google, make a Pixel/Nexus with MicroSD and headphone jack and I'll jump ship from Windows, otherwise I'll stick with Windows as long as I can.  I've got a Lumia 950xl and bought an Alcatel IDOL 4S with Windows 10 as a backup device just in case when MS did a clearance sale in the store in December.
  • Martin, how do you like the IDOL 4S comared to the 950XL? i have the 950XL and really like it, and think i would miss wirless charging and double tap to sleep.
  • Not buying anything from scroogle.
  • There is an Android Central, no?
  • OnePlus5T. Best phone ever.
  • They're all good phones, Brent.
  • I finally switched in December. 950XL > LG V30. Love the phone, absolutely in love with it. Camera is fantastic, phone is snappy af, but still getting used to some of the Microsoft apps on Android. WHY can't the Outlook app show unread email number bubble? Other apps can.