Will you buy the Samsung Galaxy Fold 3 or wait for the Surface Duo 2?

Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3 Hands On S Pen Notes
Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3 Hands On S Pen Notes (Image credit: Nick Sutrich / Windows Central)

First impressions are in for the Samsung Galaxy Fold 3. Michael Fisher, also known as MrMobile, and Android Central's Nicholas Sutrich have each shared their initial thoughts on the larger of Samsung's new folding phones. There's a lot to unpack, including a more durable design, S Pen support, a better hinge, and an under-display camera. With all of those fancy specs, we want to know if the Galaxy Fold 3 has drawn your attention away from the upcoming Surface Duo 2.

Microsoft's Surface Duo 2 isn't officially announced yet, but it should arrive later this year. Unlike the original Surface Duo, we expect the Surface Duo 2 to have the features that people would expect from a smartphone, including NFC, better cameras, and the latest specs.

While we don't know all of the details about the Surface Duo 2, we do know about the Galaxy Fold 3. Samsung's larger foldable features a foldable display, runs on a Snapdragon 888 processor, and has a 7.6-inch dynamic 120Hz AMOLED display. That display also has a camera underneath it, which is a first from Samsung. The Galaxy Fold 3 also works with the S Pen Pro and S Pen Foldable Edition, making it more useful for productivity.

The biggest difference between the Surface Duo 2 and the Galaxy Fold 3 is that the Duo has two displays that run side-by-side while the Galaxy Fold 3 has a main display that folds (it also has a display for when using the phone flipped around). People are often split between these setups. Microsoft argues that using two displays is better for productivity and multitasking, while many people prefer a folding display because it allows a phone to convert into a tablet.

Which device are you most tempted to purchase? Let us know in the poll above and share your thoughts in the comments below.

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  • Right now I wouldnt buy anything Microsoft makes.
    Their proven track record on product support is enough to know chances are you will be left high and dry by Microsoft.
  • I have to assume you mean for Android because W11 is on the way as are new Surface Pros and Books
  • I'd say it's more related to Microsoft's philosophy towards disposable electronics. The Elite Controllers are really expensive and more prone to breaking than any controller they've sold before or since. Their Surfaces are mostly disposable because only the Laptop has ANY degree of user accessibility, while repairs by Microsoft are very expensive (usually several hundred dollars to replace a screen) and inconvenient (they shut down their physical stores, so you have to ship the thing to be repaired). Along with that, you have the reality of what the first-gen Duo was. It was WAY overpriced. It wasn't just buggy, but different kinds of buggy depending on which update you were on. Its hardware was limited by 2019 standards, and it released in late-2020. Microsoft had obviously produced an expensive beta test, and I understand why some would feel slighted by Microsoft, if they went through with the purchase expecting a product with the polish of the Surface Pro or Laptop.
  • Surface Duo is by far my favorite mobile device I've ever used. Xbox Elite Controller 2 is the best controller for Xbox (I don't think that's even debateable, given that MS doesn't license out the tech for third parties to fully compete). I have no expectations for a tablet-style device (whether iPad or Surface Pro) to be serviceable. Sure, that would be a nice plus, but serviceability also adds weight and thickness, so lack of serviceability is not a negative to me.
  • Huh? MS leads the industry in product support ...2+ years more than Google or Samsung. Maybe Apple is the only other tech company that rivals. RE: Windows, they are still putting out Win7 security patches. Maybe you are confusing discontinuation of product lines with "support". MS continues to support products even after discontinuing the product. But not sure why you care if you buy a product today that works for you and they continue to support it ...but don't make new versions. How does that impact what you bought today? (btw, Google discontinues more products than MS)
  • I wont list everything but I'll give you two quick examples. Surface Duo - still has buggy as crap software and is way behind on updates
    Surface Go - not supported for Windows 11 even though its the same processor as the Go 2 (only 100mhz slower). The official response when I inquired from Microsoft was the processor is too old. Besides those two example I've been burned on Microsoft with other things like Windows phone.
    I'm done buying their hardware.
    I will still develop for their platforms and use Azure. I just wont waste anymore money on their hardware.
  • I have a Duo. When I bought it, it was buggy but I knew I was getting a Gen1 product. That said, it's not behind on updates. I got an update a couple weeks ago. It's still supported. I don't understand your point on this one.
    Re: Surface Go, you bought it w/ Win10. It still works and you'll continue to get supported updates for years to come. As of yet, Win11 isn't released so your complaint is purely hypothetical at this point in time. Things may change at release. That said, one should make purchases based on the functionality at the time of purchase ...not based on some future functionality. That said, I've read reports of people installing Win11 on "unsupported" devices and it works fine. Your description that Microsoft doesn't support their products seems rather fluid as you loosely apply the word "support". You should go lookup the term "confirmation bias".
  • It's more like they don't support all their fans. I'm a fan of Zune they don't support me anymore. I'm a fan of Microsoft Band and they don't support me anymore. I'm a fan of Windows Mobile and they don't support me anymore. I could go on because a lot of things they have done and don't do now I was a fan of and others included. But they say change is good... for someone and sometimes it's you.
  • Yea, I get it. Those are products that require an eco-system/platform behind it to work. Just like Windows Mobile/Phone. That logic doesn't apply for Surface Go or Duo. Both of those run on an OS that isn't going anywhere anytime soon. They'll continue to work just the same as the day you bought it. The logic that MS doesn't support their products is fanboys who are frustrated that their technology doesn't work 6 years later, which is an odd position to take, IMO.
  • DouttJ, and Kinect... but the Surface line in particular has flawless support in that every Surface product created has a version still in production (possible exception: RT, which may be Surface Pro X, but that's admittedly debatable).
  • All my Kinect games still work. I can even buy "new" games for it, if I wanted. What "support" is required for Kinect? I literally don't understand this complaint.
  • I'm not sure that this example equates confirmation bias. It's certainly not a fair dismissal of the point. Without a doubt, it's not great communication not conducive to a productive conversation. It isn't unreasonable to expect more support than "time and place" of original purchase. Software upgrades for a reasonable amount of time are a factor for pricey tech. A company's history in this area certainly affects my purchases. Apple and recently, Samsung see the value of this approach.
  • You do get software support for a "reasonable" amount of time ...3+ years for consumer and 10+ years for enterprise. Even after support ends, the product continues to function as it was advertised when you bought it. But let me help you out. The naysayers would like to buy into an eco-system that continues to live on so they can later buy the next gen device. So when a product line sunsets, consumers are forced into another product line, which has some negative impact. Rarely does that impact involve the current device which (usually) continues to work. I'll help you more. One product that MS abandoned was the Invoke. After several years, it no longer works as designed. But that example is an exception and nothing like a Surface Duo.
  • Surface Duo is my favorite mobile device ever created (only real complaint is the crap camera). It's fantastic. Could it be better? Absolutely, as could any piece of technology. It gets updates every month, better than most Android devices.
  • Dude, the Duo is so much better today then it was when it was released. Night and day difference. It's no where near as buggy as you are trying to make it sound. Do you even have one?
  • You definitely did not list everything.
  • cknobman, I think you're confusing MS devices with MS Surface devices. The Surface support and success rate is nearly perfect. As Dan often points out, even the Surface RT has effectively survived, evolving into the Surface Pro X.
  • Personally, I think they are both stupid devices.
  • What's so stupid about the devices?
  • I like the form factor of the Duo. I don't like the concept of a folding screen compared to two screens attached with a hinge, from a durability prospective.
  • I am sporting LG V60 dual screen and I can't imagine going back to single screen. The hinge doesn't bother me at all, it makes it feel like a book.
    If anyone make a dual screen phone and place the camera on the hinge I will buy it immediately.
  • To my mind, before I saw the Duo, I also thought: why would I want 2 screens, if I could have 1 foldable screen without a big ugly seam? But now that I've used both, I MUCH PREFER the dual screen model for a few reasons: 1. It works as a book or flipped around backwards like a single screen phone (can't do that with a foldable screen). 2. Folds around your hand to do #1, which effectively creates the best kind of single screen phone to hold (amazing for mobile gaming) 3. Intuitive 0-effort multitasking. Because it has 2 screens, you just naturally open apps in the respective screens. It's not a conscious act, you just do it without thinking about. Not really possible with foldable screens. 4. Split screen apps like Outlook, OneNote, etc. Granted, these COULD work on a foldable screen, but there aren't currently any good apps I've seen take advantage of a foldable screen in the fantastic way Outlook works on the dual screen Duo. 5. There's something crappy feeling about the foldable screen and the slight seam that appears down the middle. It feels to me like it's wearing out or damaged (even though it's not really). On the other hand the Duo still today, many months later, still feels like the most premium phone I've ever held in my hands.
  • I agree with you. When the foldable market was just starting out, there were rumours that Microsoft's surface foldable would be just like the Galaxy Fold, a single folding screen. When it became apparent that Microsoft had opted for a two-screen approach, my first thought was "Yeah, that's going to be rubbish. They clearly don't know what they're doing." But it turns out Microsoft knew an awful lot about what they wanted to achieve. I think the Duo, or any multiple screen device, makes way more sense in terms of usability, multi-tasking, gaming, etc. The galaxy fold is in a weird space. It has an excellent outer screen. Its big (6.2"), it has a very high refresh rate (120Hz), its full AMOLED, and every app on the phone runs perfectly on it. In other words, the outer screen is as good as any flagship phone main screen. So, what's the point of the big screen inside? Seriously, why would you bother to open the device if everything you need to do on the phone can be done on the outer screen? Sure, I get that watching Netflix on a bigger screen is better and surfing the Web on a bigger browser interface is better. But, is it $1000 more than a regular flagship better? If Samsung have built in trackers or analytics to see how often users unfold their phones, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they find that after a couple of weeks of initial use, the phone gets opened less and less with time.
  • The Samsung Galaxy Fold 3 checks all the boxes. Very impressed with all the new products they showed off today. Microsoft is not only going to have to hit it out of the ball park but with bases loaded to make me think they have a better product than Samsung right now.
  • As much as I prefer the Duo 2, I don't think either one will fail. There will surely be people who prefer the foldable screen, just like many of us prefer the dual screen model. Personally, even if the Fold could do everything the Duo does, I don't like the screen aspect ratios. I love the 2:3 aspect ratio of the Duo screens. I personally hate the movement to ridiculously tall and thin phones.
  • No one prefers the dual screen form factor. There is no market for it. Duo 2 will be the last one. After it fails to prove the form factor, same as Duo 1, Microsoft will stop pursuing it. Folding screens are the future. Dual screens are old tech that never caught on because it doesn’t work well. Even the Chinese aren’t copying the Duo, the market isn’t there.
  • You mean your preference is not a dual screen device. Only speak for self brotha.
  • No, I am not talking about me. No one bought the Duo, no one bought the LG, no one bought the Axon M. Reviews weren’t good. No one raved about the form factor of the Duo. It didn’t catch on. Again, even the Chinese aren’t copying it. Look outside your Microsoft bubble.
  • Your use of the words "no one" makes your comments inaccurate. If you'd like to amend them to say something like "many" or even "most," that's acceptable. As they are, your comments are not correct. Also, what do you mean no one raved about the form factor of the Duo? Many people raved about the form factor but pointed out flaws with the software.
  • The Duo didn't do well because of the insane price Microsoft was charging.
  • No one! Bold statement. There are at least a dozen people in this chat alone who are raving about their Duo. Head over to Reddit, and you'll find a group of over 6,000 fans on one forum alone. No one. 😂😂😂 I've just ordered the original Duo myself. At a drop of over £600 its worth buying just to see how useable the device is. And, Microsoft have a 60 day full money back guarantee.
  • I prefer two screens. I tried both.
    It's Duo for me.
  • 100% with you. It's the kind of thing you really need to experience to understand. Videos and pictures can't give you the premium feel of the Duo or truly convey the UX of dual screens for folding around your hand or multitasking.
  • Nobody says this but a few Microsoft shills. Why didn’t reviewers find the same thing? Why didn’t the form factor catch on? Where are the Chinese copy cats?
  • @bleached, I don't know (and "Microsoft shills," really? Says the Google Shill on the MS fan site). Maybe I'm an odd duck for thinking that's an amazing feature. Or maybe it's because it's hard to explain. All I can say is that for me, folding it around my hand makes it the single most pleasant phone to use I've ever tried in single screen mode, especially for playing games in landscape mode. And it's not something anyone could have explained to me, so again, maybe that's why reviewers don't talk much about it. You do hear from many of them, "I love the hardware. You really have to use one to appreciate just how good the hardware is." The critical reviews or parts of reviews are generally on the buggy software or the clear version 1 issues like the crappy camera (and I agree: the camera on the Duo 1 is TERRIBLE).
  • When they say hardware, they mean the build. It is amazing. They aren’t talking about the form factor. The Duo is unique, the form factor is unique. Either it catches on or it doesn’t. There is nothing Microsoft can do to make the form better.
  • True. Once you actually use the device for a while, you come to appreciate what it is.
    I'm all about productivity, so the Duo is the prefect device for me.
    It's not for the average consumer and I doubt it was really meant to be. I'm not going back to one screen, nor do I see a need for one folding screen. At least not as long as folding screens aren't as durable as my Duo screens.
  • You would say the exact opposite if Microsoft made the folding screen.
  • If there were software that took advantage of the single large screen, I might. But the reality is that there is software that makes the 2 screens powerful and useful. There's not really anything to make a single larger screen useful to many people (some for drawing) or any more valuable than a single screen phone. What the folding screen does do, is allow the phone to be thinner in width (though thicker in depth). So IF you prefer a tall thin phone sometimes and a wider more tablet-like device at other times, then clearly the Fold is the better form factor for you. On the other hand, if you can benefit from the automatic multitasking, prefer the wider screens (I hate going back even to my Galaxy S10 now, feels too cramped), or want to be able to maintain a thin premium phone in single screen mode, then the dual screen Duo provides the better experience.
  • I am not talking about me. Who cares what I like. I would love a duo to play Pokémon Go on two screens, but I could do the same thing with the Fold, and have one expansive screen when needed. I am taking about the market. It looks to have already spoken. The Duo sales were poor. It is well less than half price now while the Fold 2 is like 10% off. Reviewers were not excited about the form factor, not a single one said “Duo is the future, but the software needs to be polished”. Even the Chinese aren’t copying it, which is a big clue that the market is nonexistent.
  • I say what I mean.
    Maybe if you tried one of those phones you'd understand...
  • I have tried it and I have tried the Fold. Personally, I would certainly get the fold and anyone picking them both up will have a hard time choosing the Duo when that giant screen opens.
  • Tried as in owned or tried as in played with it in a store?
    Theres a big difference...
  • I want the Z Fold 3 but with Microsoft's version of Android. I love the idea of the Duo, but a single folding screen has the ability to work as either a large screen or use a digital bezel to virtually make two screens. That and Samsung's routinely excellent hardware sway me more towards their device. That said, I find Samsung's versions of Android to be disgustingly bloated and redundant, so I'd rather have Microsoft's version of the software.
  • Hanley, that was my thought originally (and the dual screens always have a forced bezel between them, what waste). But the dual screens provide real advantages that are lost with a single foldable screen. If there were great Android tablet apps that took advantage of the single large screen, I might feel differently, but because there isn't really anything dedicated to take advantage of the single large screen, two amazing functional screens with postures, wrap-around the hand holding, automatic multitasking, etc. are all benefits unique to the dual screen system. Unless it's changed with the Fold 3, you also can't really use the Fold as a single screen device, because it doesn't fold all the way open like the Duo does (they only unfold 180 degrees, not 360). Having said that, I curse the Duo's camera every time I have to use it. It's just awful. The pics are OK in bright sunlight, but even then it takes 2-3 seconds to take a picture. Terrible. Samsung's recent cameras are great. I still love the one in my aging Galaxy S10.
  • There is nothing you can do with the Duo that the Fold can’t do with split screen. There is no difference, but the Fold can be one big screen when watching video or playing games.
  • There are more steps to get multitasking going on the larger screen and not supported by all apps, while it is automatic for all apps on Duo. The aspect ratio of Duo screen is superior. The durability of the glass screens of the Duo are superior. The pen support come with warnings on Fold3 because it can scratch the screen not on the Duo. The hinge is far ahead on the Duo.
    There is a lot of advantages of the Duo for some users, while its understandable if some prefer Fold.
  • All apps work in split screen, that feature is from like 2014. No issues there. The aspect ratio of Duo is bad. They should switch to a normal ratio so fits in pockets better and still can multitask.
  • @bleached, that's just wrong. Aside from the fundamental hardware differences, the Duo UI is also a two-screen UI. The launcher spans and automatically jumps to the open screen so you multitask without even realizing you're doing it. When you touch a link in one panel, it opens in the other. When it comes to actually doing productive work on the device, those and the 2:3 aspect ratio are why the Duo DESTROYS the Fold. I realize, most users don't set out to do productive work on their phones, which is why this is a fairly niche device. But if you're in that niche, then Duo is the greatest design -- the first real pocketable computer.
  • Although I'm not a fan of the camera bump on a the Surface Duo, I am curious about it. If I had to choose between the two, I would likely still go Duo 2, becasue I like the idea of two seperate more durable screens. If I stay Samsung, I will likely stay with the Note, if it's something that interests me. I want to see what they plan on doing with it, to make it standout.
  • Most information seems to indicate the Note line won't be getting any new models. The Fold series is replacing it. As far as Samsung flagships go it's now just the S series, Flip series, and Fold series.
  • The Fold doesn't interest me. I don't watch much media in general, let alone on my phone. As such, the tablet-like screen of the Z Fold doesn't offer me much of an interesting use case. I do have a lot of interest in the Duo, but Microsoft has to prove it's more serious about its product this time. Releasing it with dated specs, omitting features from nearly a decade ago, and having one of the highest price tags in the market doesn't cut it. If they want to charge $1,400 or more, the thing better have the latest and greatest everything. Customers shouldn't be looking at other devices with envy, if Microsoft wants to be established as a premium OEM and draw a real fan base. I'd rather not give up the headphone jack and microSD support of my G8, but I can accept it if Microsoft gives us a true flagship experience in an exciting form factor. The side-by-side nature of the Duo is a bit more intuitive and easier to work with, IMO. Microsoft just needs to execute a mobile vision for a change. Everything from them in mobile feels 70% completed. It can't struggle to know its own orientation like the first-gen. If they're adopting a camera bump, then it needs to feel stable when folded, so you're not worried you'll break it if you press too hard. On that camera--if you're going to compromise a little of the elegance (a reasonable trade-off, IMO), then don't show up with crappy image processing (as Microsoft's mobile devices have previously done at launch, going back to Nokia's early Windows Phones). I think this is all easily attainable for Microsoft, if they want to prove themselves. My concern if they're trying WAY too hard to copy Apple. They want profit margins and a cult of followers, but they don't ever make it to market early with their products, nor do they get the level of polish or presence (shutting your retail locations doesn't help, but also talking about getting app partners on board with your vision) that Apple offers. Perhaps MS is fine being a super-niche OEM that probably shuts its stuff down in a few years when they fail to get a foothold for the 8th time, but I hope not.
  • We purchased our "day 1" Galaxy Folds 🌌 and love them. Due to various choices by Samsung, regarding Fold 2 hardware, I decided to to wait on the Fold 3 for our upgrades. While waiting, I couldn't pass up the price drops on the Duo for our kids phone/(secret) thin client devices. After purchasing their Duo's, we are now waiting to see the Duo 2 before deciding on our Og Galaxy Fold upgrades.
  • ok folding glass on the galaxy fold will still be more fragile. I tried it at best buy and I made a hole in the middle screen. They are still not that durable. At least with the duo 2 it will have two separate screens which are more sturdier. I just hope they fix the software
  • I bet the Fold will take a drop way better than Duo.
  • I can't speak comparatively, never having dropped a Fold, but my wife's cat has knocked my Duo off the counter a few times to the floor (grr...). To be fair, those were wooden floors, not stone or concrete. In any case, it still works and looks like new. And I don't use a bumper or case (make it too thick). So I would say that the Duo is it least "reasonably tough."
  • The biggest difference in my opinion is the screen aspect ratio which makes the duo a book more than a tablet. The contrary for the fold that is a narrow candy bar phone that becomes a tablet when unfolded. Now that all the leaks are confirmed for the fold 3, I wonder if there is much more to see from duo2? I really hope there is more than the camera. My bets are on surface pen haptics and wrapped screens in the hinge, smaller bezels vertically and would be nice if it had that little stand that was show in a patent too...
  • I was considering the Fold but after seeing the camera specs of only 12MP I can't go from my Note 20 Ultra to a Fold. The thickness of about double my phone also bothers me. That leaves me with thinking about the Duo 2 but I don't expect it's cameras to be competitive with the Ultra either. However, it is much thinner than the Fold but I don't like not having a screen facing outward, i.e., you will have to open it to even see who is calling you. Also it's dimensions don't lend itself well to being a pocketable phone. However, I do think it's a cool second device to have that can act as a phone in a pinch. Whether I want to invest what it would take to purchase a Duo 2 when it becomes available is another story, but I haven't ruled it out just yet either. I will say, that if the rendering with the camera bump out is accurate, that really destroyed the look of the device. They should have made it square to look like a window to coincide with MS' windows logo on the other panel and it should be the same color as the device rather than black. In other words, MS should do everything it can to minimize it's sticking out like a sore thumb.
  • You can’t judge a camera by megapixels. It is just resolution. 12MP is plenty.
  • I agree with bleached on this. Yikes. :-) If each of those 12MP are each sharp, then that will look better then a 20MP+ picture where it looks blurry when you zoom in. As a rule, if there are more pixels than the resolving power of the physical lenses, then they serve no purpose and just waste storage space in pursuit of a meaningless spec. They can be even worse than that, because a little bit of light is lost to the molecules between the pixels, meaning more pixels, all else being equal, absorb slightly less light than fewer pixels, which in turn translates to worse pictures in low light situations. Further, for phones with multiple lenses including a telephoto or that also provide an optical zoom, they don't need to rely on a digital zoom, which NEVER works anywhere near as well (the old Nokia 1020 did this pretty well with its Zeiss optics, but even that got blurry at full zoom), then even fewer pixels are needed in most cases, unless you're printing poster-sized images, because virtually no screen can display more than a 4K image, which is only 8.3 megapixels. So if you're trying to future proof to pixel perfect images at 8K, then, yeah, you'll need a 33 megapixel camera. Otherwise, anything bigger than about 8-10 megapixels is already taking 4k images even with some light zooming and cropping before finalizing.
  • Your "analysis" assumes all other things are not equal, but if all other things are equal the camera with more megapixels will certainly perform better and be much more flexible under more conditions. I'm quite positive the 12mp camera in the Fold will not outperform the 108mp in my Note 20 Ultra.
  • You're probably right that the Note 20 Ultra has a better camera, but pixel count is not the reason and again, pixel count ONLY matters after about 10megapixels if you need to do digital zooming. Vastly more important, to the point of rendering pixel counts almost irrelevant, is the quality of the lenses, speed of the camera (does it take a picture and get ready to take another nearly instantly?), and the software's ability to perform amazing feats of clarity and low-light adjustments.
  • Not sure if the camera bump will break this feature of the Duo, but for the Duo 1, if you want an external screen, just fold it all the way open. Done. Now you have a great 2:3 aspect ratio single screen phone. You can put it your pocket like that and leave it that way forever, if you wish. There is no need to ever "close" the Duo. That's just what you do when you don't want the distractions of the screen. The Duo doesn't need an external screen, because it already has 2. An external screen is a just a hack solution needed by a foldable phone because you can't fold it all the way open and leave it that way.
  • I think they should ban @bleached... but then again, he's good for laugh ;)
  • Duo has no market. The form factor didn’t catch on. Even the Chinese aren’t copying it! They make anything with a market!
  • Not interested in either as I use my phone mostly for media consumption and stuff (I'll use excel occasionally but I've yet to have an issue on the rate occasions I've edited a spreadsheet on my phone), and the aspect ratio is trash when open for those purposes on the Fold, and I'm wasting a screen on the duo.
  • I'd say the Duo is the best Excel phone, mainly because of the 2:3 aspect ratio than because of the dual screens, but if that's the only benefit and it's occasional, probably not worth the cost. Of course you can also run Excel across both screens, but for that, because of the seam on the Duo (not really bad, but just like running Excel across more than one monitor at a time, definitely more a negative than a positive), some would probably prefer the Fold as a larger single screen. It's really the multitasking where the Duo amazes. Excel in one screen, everything else you want to do swapping in the other.
  • Thinking of dipping my toes for a SD1 now when its normally priced.. However, im having a feeling there will be a Duo soon with Win 11 and android support through win 11 that moots the discussion of them supoorting android. That would effectively leave android duo 1 (and /or 2) pretty useless in comparison
  • Getting SD2 for sure. But will probably try and pair that with the Flip 3 as I really like the form factor. Have no use for the Fold 3 when currently using the Duo and then the Duo 2 in a few months.
  • Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3
  • Leaning towards upgrading to Duo 2, but will wait for the announcement and see. Might give the Fold a bigger chance than only hands on in a store if Duo 2 fail to impress me.
  • Galaxy Fold 3 is better in almost every aspect, except the thickness which is a problem compared to normal smartphones. Surface Duo is too cumbersome, I'd say.
    That's why we are still in the experimental phase with foldables.
    Maybe, I'd recommend a Fold 3 just to people who like to take notes with a digital pen on the go.
  • How is the Duo cumbersome? It has some negatives for sure, but I've never hard any of its users or reviewers cite "cumbersome" as one of them. I suspect you've not used one to say that. The only thing I could imagine someone finding cumbersome about the Duo is that due to the great 2:3 aspect ratio screen, it's a little wide when holding it to your ear as a phone without using a separate headset. Is that what you mean by cumbersome?
  • the biggest problem I have with the galaxy fold phones (all of them) is each half is too narrow. it's also too tall. and the other issue is how thick the whole thing is when you fold it. the other issue (which was partially addressed in fold 2 and refined in fold 3) was how you had to always fiddle with resizing apps when you wanted to multitask. imagine having 1 monitor and having to resize windows for all your apps. and then doing it on a phone!
  • I'm not in the market for this style of device (particularly if Duo 2 is as expensive as expected and won't have wireless charging) but I think the Duo just feels nicer in the hand, and that counts for a lot. The Folds are amazing devices but kind of chunky. Is that a banana in your pocket or ...?
  • I have to agree with most commentators that bleached sounds like a bad record (for the readers that remember that technology) when commenting in this thread but he has an point. When ever there is a new format or a new feature that is attractive there will be a slew of Chinese know-offs. So far the have been no Duo knockoff and while the format may be good for a few it probably do not have an wide user base. It is the third distinctive try with an hinged two screen solution, neither of the three tries (LG, Axiom and Microsoft) has anything with each other to do and can be seen a totally stand alone tries to create a two screen fold-able. There is no discussion that the Duo so far is the best of the threes but so far I believe the format have to many compromises. Maybe if MS makes the Duo a bit chunkier and adding 2 mm in thickness on each half to accommodate better battery, better cameras, better cooling and added hardware. Still I would choose the Samsung Fold, I almost hit the prebooking but also that device has a bit to many compromises in battery capacity and screen durability. So it will be an Pixel 6 Pro for me this year, then I will see what happens in two year.
    A good positive for the Duo is that big list of partners that Samsung have rounded up for having tweaking their apps for the fold screen, it will almost certainly also work for the Dou's screen so that could help the Duo out in the app apartment that have been a bit anemic.
  • I've been using the Z Fold 3 (come on Samsung - simplify your names) for five days now, and it has been a revelation. It is a very good phone. Coming from an iPhone 11 Pro (been with iPhone since 2007) it's size and bulk make it a bit unwieldy, but once you open that screen you have a real Android tablet, that is far better than most Android tablets out there today. The screen is only 1/2" shorter, and bit wider, than my wife's iPad Mini 5. Productivity is amazing thanks to Samsung's refinements in multi-window alignment. I've notice many feel even portrait mode is too narrow and tall - use it in landscape mode when multiple windows and portrait for large single screen projects. Opening an attachment in Outlook and being able to READ the entire page without pinching, zooming, and side scrolling is a productivity dream. The crease is there, but it soon disappears as you use the F3, and is no hinderance in taking notes (can't speak from an artist perspective). If you don't like the crease, you're not going to like the metal divider down the center of a Duo. Other than iPad specific software (iMessage, FaceTime, News+, etc.), it is every bit as good as my wife's iPad Mini, and except for total screen real estate, the iPad Air 4 which I returned when I decided to go with the F3. Overall, it is an excellent tablet and a very good phone. As for the camera's, look up Max Tech's blind review of the Fold 3, S21U, and iPhone 12 Pro Max - they are definitely an Apple fanboy/fangirl site, and their conclusions will shock you (spoiler alert, Fold 3 won on two of three scorecards, and was second on the third). The Duo 2 is going to have to up its game substantially to keep up with the Fold 3