Alleged photos of a mid-range Lumia 830 appear for your viewing pleasure

It's expected that Microsoft will release a number of Windows Phones this year (as well as X), but we could be looking at a Lumia 820 replacement to bolster its mid-range offering. Photos have been published on the Chinese microblogging website Weibo, showing off an unannounced Lumia device which WPDang believes to be the Lumia 830. We're not sure how real (or fake) these images are, but the pictured smartphone appears to sport an aluminum frame with a polycarbonate rear, much like the Lumia 930, and it looks pretty snazzy.

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What's interesting to note in the photos is how the unnamed handset features capacitive buttons, as opposed to on-screen alternatives. The rear camera cover looks an awful lot like the Lumia 1020, but it's not likely this device would come with a 41MP camera if it's indeed a mid-range entry. Details are scarce, but it's a pretty device to look at, especially if it were in green or orange. Take this with a grain of salt, folks. What are your thoughts? Let us know in the comments.

Source: Weibo, via: WP Dang

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  • wut
  • Looks like a successor to X2 + wp buttons.
  • Front and side of this is actually looking like Nokia XL (5 inch device). Hopefully this is not as think and heavy as XL (XL is 10.9 mm and 190 g).
  • I acctually liked the front of all the X-Line. At least there is a camera button. I could imagine this is a camera-focused mid range phone like the 720. Would be great if it would offer the same camera module as the 930, but all the other specs in midrange area (720p-sceen, Sneapdragon 600 or 400). This would be the perfect phone for me.
  • How could this be a mid range device? 820 wasn't really midrange but more of mid high or budget 920.
  • 820 released nearly 2 years ago and its not really high end. It has WVGA display (480x800) and only 8GB internal memory. It looked like high end because Nokia priced it very high. Thats why it failed badly. 720p display become the norm for mid range devices this year. Moto G, S5 mini etc.. all have 720p displays which are low to mid range price wise.
  • Don't forget it has all the same internals as 920 and a really good camera. 8GB built in storage is on the low side but it does have microSD slot, which for some people (me included) is actually a better deal than internal storage only.
  • True. Great phone. Damn fragile and heavy though. Mine broke for the 3rd time (in case, and screen protected). So, a nice trade in program for 820 owners IN PORTUGAL any time SOON would be great. :)
  • Interesting as I know someone with an 820. a car hit him (a drunck guy was driving) while he was talking on the 820, the 820 came out with few unnoticeable dents while he had a few bone fractures.
  • LOL 820 for Life
  • Google News Headline: Microsoft Lumia causes serious injury.
  • Hey it's only $160 now.
  • Failed badly ? It's doing (and still doing ) great in many European countries like Germany and France (see adduplex). Atbthe time of its release,  WVGA was 2nd to HD as the HD was the highest back then. So please don't speak or compare out of context. 8GB was good to many and now with WP8.1(install apps to SD cards), it's better. The 820 was a 920 minus the pureview camera, hd display and builtin wireless charging and it was priced well accordingly. I recall it was priced the same as an s3 mini (this one was an utter failure) 720p is low to midrange price wise????,, maybe moto g is the exception,  but the s5 mini and htc one mini 2 are priced the same as a 930 and higher than a 1520.
  • Looks big, like 4.7"-5".... Nice!
  • That's what you call big? ;)
  • Lol!!!.. I have a 1520, and I don't think it's all that big... But, I guess I mean big compared to the last 820, and for a midrange device... It does look kinda big, doesn't it?
  • Anything's possible. The 1320 is mid range.
  • That's what I was thinking...
  • Oh yeah about mofo time too!!!     Could be the rumoured 5" 720p device mentioned in the AdDuplex blog.
  • That makes a lot of sense! I'm going with that theory, but then I question what the 730 would be.
  • Doubt that. 730 could be the 720p device that will compete with Moto G. But yeah this could be 720p too but I am more leaning on a higher resolution.
  • Doesn't WP8.1 support qHD now? I think that would be a sensible step-up for the L730 compared to the L720
  • I don't think we need qHD at the moment. I better wait a little for the technology to mature.
  • I think he was talking about qHD not QHD
    qHD = 540 x 960 pixels
    QHD = 1440 x 2160 pixels
  • Corect. So the natural specs should be: 530/630 : 800x600
    730: qHD
    830: 720p
    930: 1080p
  • wha... how would it be smaller than 530 and 630
  • They really need better names for this crap.
  • Nope, WP wont support qHD. It will only support WVGA, 720p (1280x720), 1280x768, full HD.
  • 8.1 supports qHD
  • It's not unfortunately - still the same 4 resolutions as 8.0 qHD support was rumoured in January but there's not a single mention of it in updated 8.1 developer documentation.
  • There is qHD support, but not native qHD support.
  • qHD windows phones are very dumb. They are either scaled up from WVGA with the edges painted over, which looks worse than WVGA or scaled down from HD, which is slow. I think the 730 will be a 635 with a 4.5" 720p display, an MSM8928, 1 GB RAM, flash for the back camera, a front facing camera, a proximity sensor, and an ambient light sensor. I do not think the camera will be upgraded, since it is supposed to be a 620 successor, not a 720 successor, which the 830 will be.
  • FHD scaled down to qHD is NOT slow.
    It requires removing odd rows and columns.
    Or even.
  • You don't think WP needs it... When will you ever learn..
  • Agree.
  • If the 930 and 1020 had a baby, this would be it. Probably not for the US though...
  • That pretty much sums it up. Notice it even has a metal frame on the sides
  • I personally didn't like the metal frame... Should be exclusive to high-end models
  • Seems like they're remodeling their entire Lumia line after the Lumia Icon/930.
  • Metal frame = awesome and quality
  • I think the corners on this one are slightly more square than the 930/ICON. Not that it makes a difference, just something I noticed
  • The slanty corners are very surface-like
  • More like the X2
  • It's a bigger 630.. same design
  • 630 has rounded corners, this is much more square, it looks more like a smaller 930
  • No. This is closer to Nokia XL
  • They both have a similar shape, but, as written in the article, this has an aluminum frame, just like the 930. The XL's cover is pure plastic (or polycarbonate)
  • Maybe it is an overall lower specced camera phone, thus with a relatively better camera
  • I hope this is real and I hope it releases very soon! Need a new phone and I'm looking to get a mid range phone.
  • Looks like X series
  • Really like the design and the 1020 like camera cover. But this device seems even larger than the 630 O_o
  • I don't think the device is that large, i think it's the chinese hands that are so small.
  • you literally. couldn't be any more racist
  • How is stating facts racist? People are too obsessed with this racism thing.
  • He could actually. Quite a ridiculous statement. And he's stating anatomical fact.
  • Literally? As opposed to figuratively? Dummy...
  • I am sorry if i offended you. But even if i did, that does not make me a racist. I work for an international company, and i get to work with different nationalities every day. Chinese, French, Usa, German, Koreans, you name it. I know better than to discriminate people, and all of them i worked with will tell you i am not racistic in any way. I am sorry if people ever discriminated you, but i have nothing to do with that. All i did was state a fact. Compared to most Chinese, western people are just more robust. Now can we all just relax and enjoy the fact that wp is growing and new devices are showing up without calling each other names.
  • Maybe that 5" HD device seen in Adduplex data.
  • I want to see McLaren, getting ready for November release.
  • That's what I'm talking about. The McLaren is gonna be incredible.
  • Incredible in delay as 930 is. You barely will see it on Christmas, it will end up available world wide in January February. By that time the Vegas show will come and MS will brag about a space rocket device that will launch in summer ( lying ofc because it will launch in late autumn).
  • I'm hoping for a November release. They could announce it September. But yes, they have form for announcing things way too long before release.
  • Sad but true. I hope this tradition changes.
  • i think it has based on the surface 3 announcement and pre-orders timeline. 
  • I think this is related to how long fcc testing takes something they tended to not account(thing needing to be corrected) for in the past
  • That sounds about right... They need to turn their clock back a quarter, or two.. Then MS will be in sync with the rest of the industry.
  • Slim?
  • No way..! Nokia won't be slim at any cost!!
  • It looks to be around a third of inch (8.32mm) thick, so pretty slim by Lumia standards
  • I want 730 now please
  • T-Mobile, I beg you, please get this. I need a replacement to my 810
  • Obviously that's not a blurry cam cause they used Lumia 920
  • Mid range specs + 1520/icon/930's camera will be a good match!
  • Wouldn't it be a 1030?
  • think so!!
  • A camera centric phone with no physical camera would be a fail lol.
  • Wow! If it will have atleast 1GB of RAM and a cool snapper camera then I will definitely buy this :)
  • Talk about India and this device.
  • Maybe they've slimmed down the 1020 pureview tech? One can dream...
  • Looking at that single LED flash... Definitely a mid range phone. Dream crushed.
  • Don't step on my... Yeah... You're probably right lol
  • Maybe they slimmed down the xenon flash? There you go, dreams returned!
  • Lol
  • Nokia already slimmed down the Nokia 808 Xenon for the Nokia Lumia 1020.may e they coul put the psrts side by side. 6" device could have a slimmer 41 MP camera. The OIS module needs a new design though. That phone in picture is sutely not the Lumia 1030.
  • What could be the price I wanna replace this with my L720
  • They are giving all the new phones arriving the same (shape)design as the SURFACE tablets!!
  • I certainly hope not! That'd not only make them dreary and ugly, but incredibly uncomfortable to hold. They should stick to the Nokia design language.
  • Looks like a mixture of 930 and 1020 to me...
  • That's a combo I could enjoy! I love my 920, haven't seen anything that's not a compromise yet.
  • Damn ! This phone looks awesome to me......especially the camera....i don't care if someone likes it or not but I just love these kind of cameras.....
  • Tou like cameras with LED flash and with no specs wharsoever? Oookay.... *bonk*
  • Might just be my next phone!!
    If there's an SD card slot.....
  • Looks like a Lumia 1010...
  • If it looses the frontal Nokia logo and the rear camera cover, I’d definitely enjoy having one in my pocket :)
  • It would just be a generic slab then.
  • Is the Surface a generic slab? ;)
  • No, it has a kickstand and style.
  • And why would you want the Nokia logo off? I hope there will be the logo.
  • Cause I enjoy a clean looking device... Very much like the Surface... It has the Surface logo on the back only. :)
  • Looks super cool with the camera module thingy.
  • 930 + 1020 => 1030
  • No, 930 + 1020 = 1950 :D
  • :P
  • Nokia name on the right like on 820. But I don't see sd-card slot :[
  • On the 820 the SD slot is beneath the battery :)
  • The logo is there on the 920, 930, 620 and I think almost ask the other phones except the 1020.
  • The 822 (Verizon variant of the 820) has the Nokia logo below the ear speaker in the center at the top.
  • Which is why I wrote "ALMOST".   I didn't write "ask" though, I wrote "all"...but WordFlow decided "ask" sounded better. And I was in too much of a hurry to proofread it.
  • Ok. I understand. My brain corrected the word "ask" to "all," by the way.
  • Not sure if I'm sold on this one... Looks kinda dodgy, but waiting for 3d touch n e ways ;)
  • It should have 1 GB RAM, 1.5 GHz Quad-Core Snapdragon 400 processor, 8 GB Built-In memory, SD card Slot, 12 MP PureView camera with Flash that can shoot videos at 1080@30fps, 1080p Screen, Corning Gorilla Glass 3 with Nokia Clear Black display, LTE connectivity, 1.2 MP (720p@30fps) front facing camera, Removable Battery, 4.5 inch screen, proximity,gyro,compass, SensorCore and all the other sensors.
    I'll gladly but it then.
  • You just summed up my next phone.... hopefully it is exactly this and on Verizon. A micro SD card is a must have feature for me. I've had my 822 for almost two years and I'll get an upgrade soon. Could this be the one? Personally I could go for these specs with a 5" screen and possibly 16gb HD instead of an 8. Either way, I would buy this phone you described.
  • I doubt they'll ever release it with 16 GB memory, also 5" is a bit large xD
  • Or maybe a 5mp front camera that was in talks to be in a mid range phone :P
  • Instead of Snapdragon 400 it should have 600 or 610/615.
  • I'm thinking something similar to this. Except I expect it to have a Snapdragon 600 and a 720p 5" screen. The picture could just be throwing me off, but it definitely looks bigger than the 1020 and 925 that I have. The rest of those specs sound right in line with what an 830 should be.
  • Not sure about the 1080....720 sounds more like it...
  • Nice
  • I wonder if it will have microSD and HD, or will it be another Nokia useless phone.
  • Seems uglier
  • Camera looks like a smaller 1020. Could it be the next one
  • I think it's 830, can't be 1030 cuz there's no Xenon flash.
  • Correct
  • Maybe the 1030?
  • Looks nice!
  • Again that soap dish design...This is how a soap dish looks
  • I really hope this is true, my 820 is brilliant and was hoping for a successor. Wish list 10mp, 128 sd card support up to class 10, 16 gb Internal memory, 2 gb memory and 2.2 quad core processor.  
  • It's midrange, dude!
  • Where's the 730? My 720 feels more pleasant to use than my 920. Come on!
  • I prefer capacitive to onscreen buttons..
  • +1
  • +925
  • +McLaren
  • EDIT: Nevermind lol
  • Real buttons > capacitive > on screen
  • Its still "Nokia " wohooo
  • Hurray!!
  • Yeah, I really hope they don't start puttng "Microsoft Mobile" on their phones Maybe MM......maybe
  • Lets wait until it announced :-D
  • Looks like a 1020 & 930 offspring to me... 975 ?? 
  • You obviously have no idea how the Lumia numbering is done. 1st digit is the position in hierarchy, 2nd digit is the generation and last digit is the variant. So, between 630 and 930, the first digit implies, the 630 is a lower end than 930. The second digit implies we are in WP8.1 generation (in 920, the 2 implied the WP8 generation). And between the 630 and 635, the last digit implies they are variants of the same phone. Posted via the WPC App for Android!
  • Woah..I actually didn't know that!
  • Was a joke buddy, but thanks for that info... didn't really know the reasoning behind the numberclature before, other than the 1st digit.
  • Hmmm....the Lumia 1520 had only WP 8.0 at launch, but the hardware is surely up to the WP 8.1 level. :-)
  • ahahaha you took avg of 1020 and 930 and named this mobile 975? :D
  • All I wish and hope is... It has a memory card slot... for God's sake Microsoft ... NO??? ok for Windows Phone sake?
  • Absolutely agree with you!!!! Especially if it had a decent camera.
  • It seems like an Imaging Flagship, as there is no bottons either way except a dedicated camera button as we seen in windows 8 device mostly for camera bottons....
  • No because of the LED flash.
  • wp could use midrange!
    im trying to find a sweetdeal for my brother, he doesnt want to pay 500€ for his phone..since its his first smartphone.
    but the xhoices are limited!
    or 92€ for 520, 140€ something for 630 or above 300€ for 920. why cant he get a 1gb ram device between those? (i count 920 as top model, cuz i lt was one!)
  • Why not consider an 820? Look online , new for under 300 Euros. Used for under 200.
  • I've always been more interested in mid range. Although I do want a 1520
  • Isn't this the body that was leaked back when the 1520 was leaked?
  • Same thought I had. Surprised you're the first to mention this
  • So if the 630 was supposed to be a successor to the 520 then this should be a successor to the 720(if it is a 830)
  • Nope... 630 succeeded 620... Read a dozen or so comments up for a more detailed explanation...
  • Interesting looking device if its legitimate
  • Compared to the 820 and past Lumias the design is really clunky/blocky. Why can't they give us an evolution on the beautiful 620/820/920 design instead of these boring bricks? 720/925/1520 were also good designs.
    The smaller 1020 style camera hump is interesting but only if it's justified by actually being 41mp.
  • I need a slim metallic Nokia phone.. As slim as HTC one!
  • BTW have you noticed that the USB cable goes on TOP
  • I think its L730. But its not look like unibody design. Changable back covers and non removable battery like L1320, so memory card slot and sim slot under back cover. Camera 8+ MP and have a wide lens. 5inch hd display with 1.4+ ghz snapdragon 400 processor with 1 gb ram. 8 gb internal with 128 gb expandable. Wish to have huge battery like L720. And it will be my 2nd wp phone. Sun
  • Why would anyone fake a mid-range Lumia? If they were wanting some hype, surely they'd choose an iPhone 6 or something? This is real :)
  • Charging port is on top (ie 925).
  • I thought the same... It seems off center though??
  • Yeah. That's weird. The whole phone is weird though. Nokia's designs have really been disappointing lately.
  • Nokia / MS are already quite late in updating the mid-range offerings. There should have been 725 and 825 in market since the beginign of this year. But never late than never. One more thing that struck me in the pictures was the size of the phone. If it is indeed 830, I am already pretty excited as I own 820 since the day it was launched in India
  • Could this be the 1030?
  • No
  • Black with grey aluminum frame (black front and back) please.
  • can this be a dual boot phone?
  • For those who can't see a hardware buttons they are all there look closely . That guy is covering them wit his hands. Volume . Lock. And camera button.
  • I saw it too! All hail for shutter button! *^^*
  • Please be the successor I love my 820 an want to continue down the 8 series handsets
  • Okay, a few things that i would like to point out. 1. In the first picture, the upper right-hand corner has some lettering on it, most likely saying NOKIA, b/c it is too short to be something like Microsoft.
    2. In the second picture, in the lower left-hand corner, you will see a capacitive button, placed in a spot where most Windows Phones have a capacitive camera button.
    3. In the final picture, (this is purely how I see it) the edge of the screen looks to be raised up off of the back plate. This could just be a) how the picture was taken or b) how I am looking at the picture.
    Any feedback or thoughts on what I'm saying? Thanks.
  • You're 1 st point is correct as you look at the high res images in the source site you can see 'Nokia' clearly.
    2nd, yeah there seems body colored camera key as it is a bit of camera centric phone.
    Not clear with 3rd point.
  • No sd card again?! No gorilla glass again?! Non Dual cam?! I'm so tired.
  • Yeh. It's 830.
  • My next phone!
  • Looks like a fake to me. Given they can fit the sensor into the 930 without a 1020 like camera bump, I highly doubt they would need such a camera bump for a mid/high spec phone such as the future 830 which is likely to have an 8mp sensor possibly recycled from the 920/925.
  • The rear doesn't look good :/
  • another horrible designe with a huge bezelz stop making nokia Lumia 930 designe and start making sum like nokia Lumia 925 plz
  • +925
  • Really don't like the surface-design of the 630 and now this one as well... :-/
  • Give me a L725 with 1 GB RAM, and I will not change my phone for entire lifetime. I loved my L720 so much, even after losing one, I will buy another one. 
  • A 730 with 4.7" HD screen,1gb ram,full HD recording also updated processor like s400..
  • 2gb of ram 801 processor sd card and 2300 to 2600mah removable battery will do fine, taking off the pureview feature of 930 will make the phone midrange as they did before on 920 vs. 820
  • Remove the damn chin if you are going with on screen buttons.
  • it has capacitive buttons like all lumias.
  • It looks nice, i hope it has atleast snapdragon 600 soc or 610/615? And at least a 720p/768p display and 1.5gb atleast. 
  • I think this device is kinda ugly.
    I hate the camera and this looks like an 5-inch device, and I don't like phablets.
    I currently own the Lumia 820, and I really hope that this will not be the new version of it.
  • it seems to have taken the beautiful curved edges of the 820 and added that to the scraight sides of the 930.  Looks pretty big though.
  • .....soon.
  • 830?! That makes no sense, this device has a camera hump, why in the world would a mid range device have a camera with a big enough sensor to have a hump? This is much more likely to be the 1020 successor. Hope so
  • No. It has a black circle on the back. Doesn't mean there's a hump.
  • Is this just me or it looks just awful and I believe it would be better if I haven't seen this news.
  • Might it be the 1030 ?
  • I have an 820 and was hoping to see its successor. But this... This is just too big...
  • This smells fishy. The picture quality is terrible for a 920. Then there's the Nokia logo there that Microsoft no longer has the right to use. Then we've seen this housing months ago.
    It could be the 830 but it's most likely an old build of it... Actually, it may even be an old build of the 929/930.
  • Maybe MS licensed Nokia name,read this post:
  • Read my comments there in that article ;)
  • At first glance it looks like 1030, but since it lacks xenon flash, it should not be. This is might be 830 or 730. I'm more leaning for 830 but the single LED flash is a downgrade from 820, though that would be the only drawback. Another thing, the shutter button is also present and I'm glad they did include it! :D It might also means this is a PureView, but its a midrange and as we know it only Lumia 9XX, 10XX, and 15XX could have PureView tech. More likely a midrange with shutter button, since 6XX and 5XX(except 620 & 520) series won't have shutter buttons anymore and they are entry-level.
  • Lol, Alleged photos? No, those are photos! Alleged 830,  yes.
  • Why the 830? Instead of a higher end. I guess because of the Icon and 930... But the camera looks like it may be bigger and better than the 930/Icon's. The pictures look real to me.. I think y'all should bump that number up to 7.5 lol
  • What is clear from the image is that this device doesn't come with NOKIA'S CLEAR BLACK SCREEN TECHNOLOGY... That's an awful news if it actually be a successor to Lumia 820!
  • Looks like the 930/Icon with 1020 camera...... We need some Mclaren Leaks
  • By the time it is released (if it is) smartphones will have become an entirely different creature. They wont look anything like the phones we have today. Camera hump is a dead giveaway, dont see a midrange here  
  • Looks sexy and i know it!
  • Isn't this the same phone that was originally leaked quite some time ago alongside the Lumia EOS?
  • Yes, this was the then rumoured 1520. Which is why I believe it's just an old build of what became the 929/930.
  • I hope that's not the 830. Looks too big for the 8xx series.
  • The one thing I notice is the surface angles, take a look at the last picture, it's surface like.
  • Looks nice!
  • Would love ❤ to get it if it has 1gb ram and a good snapper with sd card slot
  • Looks bland.
  • i thought aluminum is used in their high-end devices and low/mid range devices used polycarbonate
  • Looks quite nice. Glad to see this one is apparently legit.
  • Would love to have a new device update from my current Lumia 820, I don't need a flagship device just a decent device comparable to flagship in specs but priced lower,hope MS brings a good exchange offer here in India.
  • So the Icon is Oy's new 920. All looks stem from it.
  • Well, the 929/930 is 2014's flagship. So it's natural the flagship sets the design patterns for that years collection.
  • Hope they make a Lumia 720 successor !
  • Finally, I've been waiting for rumours of a new WP handset from Nokia for ages. It cannot be denied that since the MS acquisition Nokia dropped the pace considerably. I probably do not look forward to this phone in particular, but I really want to see the diversity that we once had from the 500s all the way to 900, that seems to be a thing of the past.  
  • YES!
  • My bet is the guy is wrong at assuming it's an 830. I'm guessing it's the 1030 with 41 mpx camera tech!
  • Big question is whether it will have an SD card slot for the higher capacity SD cards.  That alone would make it more desirable to me than the 930.  Just have to see but now all that is out there is the oversized 1520 and the newly announced budget models that are coming out.
  • yeah! More Lumia 800 devices..
  • Love the design, looks like a updated 1020
  • my opinion
  • It des not have a dual led flash, as my 800 and 820 do, and I doubt nokia would regress the camera so i'm guessing fake
  • I WANT LUMIA 1030 !  
  • I like it, It's beautiful, except fot the camera big circle on the back... UGLY!   :/ I really hope this indeed was a middle range device, and not a high-mid device like 820
  • I actually like to the idea of a camera bump on phone, had used Sony's W700i that was pretty awesome back then and gave the feel of an actual camera..don't need to be a super camera on this phone's back just a normal 13-16MP camera and this look at back, will make it stand diffrentiate from the crowd..please this be a mid range phone..lower than 9XXs but a grade above 7XX series.. :)
  • Whats that oreo doing there
  • There is a new photo ( article in finnish) which shows that it has 13 MP camera with PureView and Zeiss lenses and on the back of the device is "Nokia by Microsoft" logo.
  • It looks to me tobe a device similar to the lumia 1020.
  • Not feeling this mix between the Nokia X and Lumia 1520 look.
  • There is also a rumor that the 830 is code named "Train". I guess Tesla and Train are the same device. Do you have any word on possible release dates of McLaren and Tesla/Train? I am hoping that these are the 730 and 830 and get launched really soon.
  • Lumia is nice phone because here is not hangin problem and smooth performance ( touch and browsing well).
  • There better be a true 920 successor on AT&T by June 2015 or else I'm taking my contract and using it on the LG G3 or the G4 or whatever is out then. The 1520 is way too big and Microsoft can't seriously lose their 3rd or 2nd largest phone user base because they failed to release a phone that is a true upgrade from the old one. I hope McLaren wasn't the only flagship they were working on. I'll be looking at this 830 but I can't wait 2 years and only get a Snapdragon 400 and a similar .
  • Great Microsoft! Let's be more confusing rather than less confusing. These idiotic numbered names also need to go. It doesn't take an idiot to figure out that consumers have completely lost track of what phone is what with all of these idiotic numbers. Go back to real names like the Icon.