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Microsoft looking to bring back the Start Menu to Windows 8 in future update

Microsoft made some radical changes to the Windows platform with the launch of Windows 8. Some consumers adapted to the new Modern user interface, while others struggled to move on from the Start menu, not effectively utilising the Start screen with Live Tiles and other functionality. According to latest reports, the company is looking to return the Start menu in a coming update.

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We've previously looked at the upcoming Windows 8 update to succeed 8.1, codenamed "Threshold." It's believed that Microsoft will release said updates to bring Xbox One, Windows and Windows Phone closer together. Now, according to Mary Jo Foley over at ZDNet, Microsoft will ship three product SKUs:

  • ​Consumer-focused release, running on phones and ARM-based tablets/PCs (think a revised Windows RT)
  • Traditional consumer release on x86 architecture, aimed at the PC market with mice and keyboards (just like full-blown Windows 8 today)
  • Traditional enterprise SKU for volume licensees

Parallels Start Menu

​​Start menu in Parallels 9

Big changes coming to Windows

As well as the above, Paul Thurrott has included a few changes that may be planned for a future version of Windows - note that no codename or version has been confirmed. If you've been craving the full Start menu, or have desired the ability to run Modern apps in desktop mode alongside each other, prepare yourself for a rather large smile.

Both these features are believed to be on the way. Currently, there are still many complaints about the start menu, or lack of. Some utilities have been released (and even included by OEMs), but to have an official menu return to Windows would be a blessing for those who simply can't live without the feature.

Running Modern apps in desktop mode would also be a massive improvement for those using a mouse and keyboard. The ability to have Modern apps as windows (much like traditional x86 Windows software) in the desktop would remove the requirement to switch between the desktop and Modern UI. This could potentially increase productivity.

But that's not all as Thurrott teases that there's the possibility for more features to be included in the next major update for Windows and we find it difficult to disagree. Microsoft is certainly listening to consumers on all platforms (be it Windows, Xbox or Windows Phone) so these changes (and more) make perfect sense.

It's worth noting that while this is all rumour for the time being, both Mary Jo Foley and Paul Thurrott are usually spot on when it comes to these types of stories. Would these two features alone make a difference to the Windows user experience for you?

Source: ZDNet, via: Winsupersite

Rich Edmonds
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  • 1st!
  • Could have added something relative...
  • haha you're right but i was feeling lazy. lol. anyways i could not care less cause i love the metro and even if i dont use or click on the tiles much i most often just type to search the program that i need to open. dunno why people complain so much when its easier to just type and search >.<
  • It's all about context switching. It can be jarring to have a spreadsheet open, press the windows key and then have everything you were looking at disappear for tiles instead of having just a small menu pop up. I don't mind it, but plenty do and there's plenty of evidence that context switching is annoying and bad for productivity. (And it's stupid on windows phone - context switching to toggle rotation lock, really?)   Microsoft, please don't screw this up. Make this an *option.* Windows 8 Live tiles work WAY better on touchscreens and smaller devices, so please don't make it so you are stuck with the start menu. Give us the best of both worlds. It can't be that hard.
  • /thread
  • Agreed!
  • But that's exactly the same with the old start menu, when you're in the desktop, just click on Start (or press the Windows key) and start typing to search
  • I thought they blocked comments like this. Congrats on beating the system?   More importantly, congrats on being first.
  • They blocked 'first' not '1st'... :D
  • But what about the devices like convertibles or touch-notebooks or high-end tablets now. Do they have to use the improved RT then instead of the full system?
  • I do not think so; worst case scenario, and as long as you have an 86 processor, you can install Win 8.1 Pro.
  • Bring back Clippy!
  • +1.
  • Before remove something they should ask - Start Menu, Radio, Zune, Xbox Live Games ...
  • Ask the who, what?..huh?
  • +1
  • So there will be an option? I like options.
  • Yeah, I am thinking I would like to turn this off, especially on my tablet.
  • Yea. Hopefully they have the settings set so that you don't have to change it yourself. Like if you have a tablet, then the system knows you have a tablet and won't put this start menu as the default option. But on another note, wouldn't this "studder" make MS look bad?
  • On my surface RT I would like the option to completely remove the desktop. The start button and the desktop evironment are more of a hassel than anything. People need to let the start button go.
  • Oh well, guess they have to make the people that just can't get it happy.
  • Yeah, cuz God forbid they stop crying and actually try something new.
  • Preach it Sean D!
  • Like they won't find something else to complain about. 
  • +1
  • "New" does not automatically translate in "Better". "Words like "Change" and "New" could good or bad.
  • Very true. However, there are certain people in this world that are extremely conservative and they tend to perceive all change as bad.
  • Reminds me of when the Wii came out. All I read were comments like: "Why do I have to use motion controls? Give me a traditional controller with 2 joysticks!" The same thing is happening with the Wii U: "Why do I need a screen on the controller?! It's too big!" Haters gonna hate.
  • The thing is sure the start screen is nice or what have you, but, its not practical in a real world sense. Say I am doing something while following instructions on the screen now I have to the start screen guess what I just lost what in was supposed to do. Why should I have to print it out...if I even have a printer at that computer. Or what if I am programming I have visual studio up now I have to bring up SSSMS to look at some data or to modify a stored procedure, the start screen could be the difference of me getting something some or me losing my train of thought which statistically takes about a half hour to an hour to get back into. What's even worse is they actually put the start screen on Server 2012. Smh.
  • If it's in the consumer's best interest, why not?
  • It's all about choice. Windows 8 is lovely for tablets and even small notebooks, and fine for the mainstream user tbh, but business users (a big part of what MS wants) need to be productive, and a small menu is better than a giant screen displayed over everything you were just working on, even if only just for a few seconds. It may be *fine* for users (and it is for me, I don't really care honestly) but why settle when you can have both? As long as it's an option, and I don't see Microsoft removing live tiles anytime soon, give us both. It's like choosing a CPU was - only blind fanboys (or a specific niche of users, in this case tablets) would have picked an FX-8100 over a similarly priced i5-2500k that performed better while using less power in nearly every scenario. Sure, an FX-8100 is good enough, but there's no reason to settle when you can do much better. Windows 8 on my desktop is fine, and I would take it given the under the hood improvements and other things over Windows 7, but given the option of Windows 8 or Windows 8 and the Windows 7 style start bar for the same price on my desktop, I'd definitely take the latter.
  • Exactly. Most people don't understand the challenge with managing end users in enterprise.
  • The start screen doesn't effect productivity at all. How often during the day does someone go into a start menu or start screen to launch an app? It can't be that often. Most people launch the important apps at the start of the day and just switch between them. The start screen is exactly the same as the desktop. You can pin apps and files to the start screen just as you would pin shortcuts on the desktop. The only real difference is that it uses grouping instead of folders and you can scroll it. The only time you would access the start menu is when you search for an app and it is easier to find something in a full screen than a small menu with shortcuts buried in folders. That's why they added pinning of shortcuts to the start menu. However, I can organize my most used apps better on the start screen than I can on the start menu. I use windows 7 at work and windows 8 at home on a non-touchscreen PC and Windows 7 isn't more productive in any way. The key is to organize the start screen. When windows 8 shipped, it pinned all newly installed apps on the start screen. The only apps that should be on the start screen are those you will access often. All teh other apps should be access through the all apps screen, just like how the all programs in the start menu works. 
  • The difference is that you can organise all the apps in W7. IIRC the only way to do that in W8 is to pin them... Otherwise you have to look at a screen-full of apps
  • You did not really use W8.1, did you? But let's the bashing start! :-]
  • I must be one of a few people who never use the start menu in Win7, I have links in my taskbar to everything I need. To be honest my setup is more akin to OSX's dock. Although I also chuck less important stuff like games on the desktop (as they tend to chop and change so when I am done with one I ditch it).
  • @txDrum totally agree
  • When consumers stubbornly demand to live in the past, it hinders creativity. I see and hear a lot of people complaining about losing the Start Menu at work, but when I watch them on a Win7 device they all use the Start Menu like it is Windows 95. They don't pin often used apps, they don't use search and they say "where was that" while they hunt and peck. These are the people I encounter who say MS has lost touch with their customer and these are the people I offend when I tell them to learn how to make Windows work for them and to stop using Windows 95.
  • Totally agree and search is much easier than a start menu imho. People dont like change, I remember when win95 came out there was uproar about the new start button. An option to enable or disable is a better option than bringing the start back full stop.  
  • Yes but this is exactly why people are switching over to apple and android. Because apple creates things that look beautiful and makes things simpler and faster for people to use. Why should I have to exit an app, open another app, tap twice on a button to change a setting from off to on, when i can just swipe up or down and tap the relevant button on apple or android products? For an operating system that claims great productivity and business use, not having a week view in calendar is *criminal*. Also, live tiles are NOT live. They rarely work as they should, and are not a patch on widgets on android. Ive had problems with these on Lumia 800, 920, 1020 and 625. Ive tried all the things to remedy them, but its not working. I bought a 2520 last week after thinking long and hard about Lumia vs Ipad air. I am thinking about returning it because despite putting my best efforts into wanting to like WP and Windows 8, it just doesn't cut it any more. These features are 'coming' is not an excuse. Ive waited over two years since I bought my Lumia 800 and STILL they have not added basic functionality.
  • If you live tiles are not working check your apps, because some apps are poorly written and it will block updates, at the same time will eat up your battery.
  • Beg to differ on the week view in the calendar. You have a choice of day, work week, week or month if you just click on the top of the screen when using a mouse or swipe down if using a touch based device. As far as the live tiles go we have 2 Lumia 920s in the house, a Surface 2, Surface RT and Surface Pro 2 as well as several Windows 8 desktop computers and have never had any problem on any of them. They all work just as they should, updates, e-mails, telephone messages/missed calls, calendar appointments, all work perfectly. Toast notifictions work just fine on our phones. We love that the calendar also sends an e-mail notification of an upcoming appointment. I have to say that we are loving what Microsoft is doing with everything all being synced and never having to worry about whether we are using our phones, Surfaces or computers, we know that the same information will be on all of them.
  • First, there is nothing simple and easy about android. Apple just added the command center to ios. Before that you had to exit an app, go to settings, search for the setting, and tap the button. You make it sould like apple always had this feature. Android has had setting shortcuts for a long time, but the os overall isn't simple and easy to use. Most of the tiles on my phone and PC do update. Even if they don't, you can make them small and they will become just like the ipad air, static icons. The devices do have basic functionality. They are missing a few features. If those features are really that important to you, then by all means return teh tablet. I, personally, have gotten by easily without a notification center and rotation lock.
  • My Windows 8 devices openly mock my Macbook (OSX now looks like something from the 1970s)
  • My friend has a Macbook Air and I genuinely want to cry every time I see it. It has such gorgeous hardware, a truly beautiful aluminum shell. But then when my friend boots it up, I see it running stale old boring OS X, and I weep that such a gorgeous body and being ruined by such a horrible OS. I've never understood why people love OS X, it's so bland stale and boring. It's main color scheme is GREY for Pete's sake! Sure, it supposedly runs fast, but then again, running a UI fresh out of the 90s can't be too intensive on the processor.
  • Umm, iOS devices literally /just/ got Command Center, like, no joke, just this past September... And Windows 8 already has it's own way of quickly switching frequently accessed settings, thanks to the nifty Charms bar. The problem is that the Windows team and the Windows Phone team aren't very unified at the moment. Hopefully, Microsoft will deliver on their promise of true unity when they release Windows Phone 8.1, then it should be smooth sailing from there. So while I lust for something similar to the Charms bar on my Lumia 1020, Windows Phone still isn't as far behind as people make it out to be. Does it need to catch up? Hell yes, and fast, but my point stands: it's not as dreadfully far behind as people like to think it is. As for the live tiles: are you sure your apps aren't at fault?
  • I don't think this is about living in the past. It's about productivity in a traditional desktop setup. Though is using a keyboard and mouse living while multitasking multiple apps on the same screen (or multiscreen) in the past? Perhaps it is, but it's hard to beat that efficiency. And we don't need to give that up in the process.
  • Win8.0 is my primary workstation for work. I have my mouse, keyboard, laptop display, 2 external monitors and a nightmare of USB devices. Multitasking has not been impacted at all. To be honest, I have no need for modern apps at the office; but I do enjoy the stability and speed of Win8 and I look forward to getting Win8.1 on my work device. I get my experience does not define everyones, but people complaining without even trying is just sad. As I mentioned earlier, most folks I encounter are using a "pretty version of Windows 95".
  • Thankfully its just an option and not a requirement. I'd much rather have touch based on a laptop and mice and keyboard for a desktop.
  • I'd much rather have touch, mouse/trackpad/trackball, and keyboard for desktop. I use all three in combination on my Surface Pro.
  • + SP2
  • Me too! Just tell logitech to keep making those trackballs because my left click is slowly going. Oh and don't forget stylus input!!
  • They have the new start menu. No need to backpedal when the new UI works as good if not better than before.
  • You can already run Modern UI apps next to desktop. You just can't run desktop apps next to Modern UI apps.
  • ^THIS
  • Agreed. That and the functionality to run metro apps in windowed mode exists in one of the 8 tweak programs.
  • Windows 8 doesn't need the start button!!!!!!! AAARRTRGFJFJHGGHH People are just too damn stupid
  • I agree, sort of, it is nice to have when I need to find something lol, but there was another announcement to this - playing Apps on the desktop, which does sound neat haha. :D
  • If you need to find something you can start typing in the letters and boom there it is. Way fast than navigating through sub menus.
  • That's how it currently works- which is why people are stupid and Ms should just ignore them and move on. THEY DONT KNOW THAT IT WORKS EXACTLY THE SAME WAY- all complaints are unfounded. The only legitimate complaint , "I don't like full screen app launching" was addressed in 8.1.
  • Yeah, but that's identical on W7. Press Start - begin typing and it returns apps, games and file matches
  • For me, running apps on desktop is more important. I don't care about the start menu.
  • Why not get programs instead of apps on the desktop? Apps are halfass... We might as well go back to Windows 7.
  • Programs are already on desktop, I don't know what you're talking about.
  • Apps and programs are basically the same thing when put on a desktop environment... That's my point.
  • I think people mean mimicking what a currently available program does, where it takes a Metro App and places it inside a traditional desktop Window, which you can then resize and adjust to your leisure. Likely a good option for people who need to run more than two apps side by side, but don't have a big enough resolution display for Windows 8.1 to permit such action.
  • How many of those apps will look good and work well in a windowed environment? Microsoft went full screen because most people were running their apps maximized on windows 7 and prior. Snap view is generally more than enough when you need to see 2 things at the same time and you don't have dual monitors. The people who open apps in many small windows are really a small minority. Microsoft telemetry data shows that.
  • "Sinofsky stated that telemetry data shows that."
    Fixed for you.
  • Plus, some people want it, so more people would come to windows. Its not about you remember, not everyone is you. People want it as an option, so you don't have to use it, do you? Its a good feature for many.
  • Yet Apple gives no options and it is doing well... Hmmm that would indicate too many options cause too much confusion and fragmentation.
  • Funny now android, with many many choices is now top, and Apple is going down fir having no choices....because people are realising choices are good.
  • +8
  • This is the news a lot of people who haven't switched to Windows 8 yet have been waiting to hear. I frankly can't be any happier to know that Microsoft is finally beginning to take initiatives to demonstrate to even their staunchest critics that they will not accept criticism without making changes as necessary. I look forward to the long term fruits of this exciting development.
  • Interesting to use an SS of Start8, which I believe is one of the best start buttons out there for Windows 8 (granted, it costs a little, but you only have to buy it once for it to be on every PC/ laptop you own ;) ).
  • You know what the best start button is for windows 8? The start menu.
  • Or you can use classic shell for free and comes with better options imo also I believe there is a third party program already to launch modern apps in desktop mode but I forget the name.
  • No!!!, there is a start menu..people need to learn to deal with change...we have people still using XP!!. The start button addition was just stupid..the hot corner was so much better. 
  • People are usually extra resistant to change when it's completely useless.
  • +1
  • Thank the heavens!!!
  • BREAKING NEWS: "More features coming to future version of Windows." Earth-shattering news there guys. It's not like every other version of Windows hasn't come with new features; this has never happened before. Wow. Don't get too excited, though, it's just a rumor.
  • I usually like choices. And this is going to make me sound kind of like a purist but I think this is why we can't have nice things. People often refuse to adopt new ways to interact with technology so Microsoft seems to be in need of catering to everyone.
    I guess with great power comes great responsibility. But I will say that lately they have surprised me with their ability to deliver something nice. So, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
  • Yeah, and unfortunately, unlike Apple, people aren't willing to trust Microsoft. So where as Steve Jobs literally could've made a device that only turned on, displayed and Apple logo and then turned off, he could've pitched it as the future and people would've lined up around the corner to buy one launch day. Still, choice is good, just so long as Microsoft doesn't overwhelm us with so many buttons, toggles and options that it becomes overwhelming (*cough* Android *cough*).
  • BOOO!
  • Won't make any difference to me, but if it makes other people happ, go for it. Personally, I have adapted to the Modern UI and don't miss the Start menu at all.
  • Nice features. If would they just make a desktop app market for windows 8 rt now would be even more awesome.
  • Hopefully they don't bring back the old start menu, the new one is better. But the feature using Metro-Apps on Desktop would be great.
  • Thank god they are bringing it back, productivity in 8/8.1 isn't near as good as Win 7 IMO. The OS needs to know what type of product its being installed on and adjust itself accordingly. For instance a PC that is non touch interface should have a GUI that fits that vs. A tablet where touch is central to it's use. MS needs to let the OS installer select the appropriate layout for the hardware it is being installed on. I say let the user decide if they want a start menu or just a touch style interface. Its all about options for the end user and having the best productivity layout possible regardless of hardware type.
  • Makes sense. Problem is that half of the users won't understand how to make that decision, they'll get frustrated, return it and trash windows while buying an MacBook or an iPad. Sad but true.
  • You have no idea what are you talking about.. "to let the OS Installer select the appropriate layout" - let's assume you are referring to the MSI - Microsoft Software Installer, this is just an engine, what it installs and for what and where to place the shortcuts it's up to the dev. Btw productivity on 8.1 is sky rocket in comparison to 7, it brings so many new features, better powershell implementation, better memory management, improved accessing applications and much more.
  •  Lets first not assume anything... I'm talking about people who install their own OS's. If I were given the option to boot directly to a desktop mode vs. a touch screen interface in 8, I would have selected that since I use a mouse and keyboard for my desktop workstation. All I said is it would be nice to have the option at install to select what type of UI I get. I now have that option in 8.1 but only post install.. I have been using 8.1 since it's beta. I have adapted fine, I just don't like it as much as Windows 7 and I'm entitled to my opinion. I can get things done faster in 7. I didn't say Windows 8 was trash and inferior to 7 nor that it didn't bring new enhancements.. It is considerably better at a lot of things, but not everything. I am sure I will adapt as time goes on but a start menu would be nice. Especially after using it for so many years. I find myself clicking it out of habbit and getting the start screen of metro I wan't expecting. You can't tell me that hasn't happend to you a few times? Everyone uses Windows differently I just think that options are a good thing for everyone.    
  • The fact that you insist on calling Metro/Modern a "touch screen interface" seriously harms your credibility. It works just fine with a mouse & keyboard and is easier to use and more productive than the old start menu. "I can get things done faster in Windows 7" is another way of saying "I haven't tried to use Windows 8 properly" -- A man who doesn't know how to drive a car can get somewhere faster by walking -- it doesn't mean that walking is inherently faster.  
  • I didn't, nor have I said it doesn't work with a Keyboard and Mouse. I'm doing that right now. I am glad you find it more useful for how you use Windows. I do not. And how do you "Use Windows 8 Properly"  when everyone uses Windows differently for different things? That's pretty subjective, no?
  • Sure it works fine on non-touch devices, but lets be frank here: the Metro UI was designed for touch, and thus using it ONLY with a keyboard and mouse can be somewhat frustrating, especially if you have a large screen (all that time dragging the mouse from corner to corner must be horrendous)
  • Adjust the sensitivity of your mouse?
  • You said with your own words "productivity in 8/8.1 isn't near as good as Win 7 IMO", now you say that "I didn't say Windows 8 was trash and inferior to 7" well this 2 statements kinda contradict themself. Anyway you didn't expressed yourself correctly, like semantics. You wrote OS Installer while you meant to say that you were referring to the operating system installation, custom options, start-up screen and so on, I am sorry but "installer" means a whole different thing, more so when you pair it with the word OS. Now to get to your point, no, I haven't click on the start menu, I didn't even used in 7, it is really pointless. Everything you need is either in search or on the desktop which now is perfectly replaced with live tiles.
  • By "OS installer" he is obviously referring to the installer which installs the operating system.
  • Good decision. The Modern UI is not as good on a desktop as the old start menu. On my ultrathin notebook with a full HD touch screen, on the other hand, I prefer the Modern UI.
  • Can we still have the start screen? I moved on from the start button so i hope the option for start screen is still there
  • Wow. This is pointless. Everything still can be done if you spend three minutes trying it. It becomes every bit as easy. These are the same people that are OCD and flip out if you movr their coffee mug from one shelf to another and then they can't function for the rest of the day. I cannot believe something so small (because the same exact features are still present) has become so critical to some people.
  • true...
  • Can you direct me to where in the new start screen I can add jumplist shortcuts to tiles? I didn't think it was possible and it's the primary reason I use Start8 but according to you everything is possible so maybe you can tell me where to activate it.
  • 9 really? Im sorry but Mary Jo Foley and Paul Thurrott are like what? 25% right of what they say?  both of them are the least source about Microsoft news that you can find.   and then I have to wonder, why would Microsoft remove the whole start menu code if they are going to bring it back? why would they allow you to sync your start screen, if they are going to put start menu... which probably wont sync. and while some people dont like Windows 8, like they didnt like windows vista, and some didnt even like windows 7. with 8.1 more and more people have managed not to complain about it.     but next time WPcentral, please... just better find a better source, what about a real Microsoft employeer? instead of 2 clowns of internet who are always "I dont know" in podcast like stupid Windows Weekly and others?   but yeah lets put a 9, becuase especially Paul Thurrott says its true, he is always right /s   I would rather contact the old Canouna and ask him if this is true instead of trusting a 2 worthless "gimme clicks I need to feed myself and my family" "journalists"
  • Wow, that seems like a personal thing you have with them. The truth is that they have a great track record with rumors of this kind and they pretty much have earned a good reputation. If you don't like them that's OK but there's no need to insult them personally. Take a breath, Cool off. Have a nice day.
  • and you care because? im not talking about you. and they havent said anything important regarding to Windows 8. like i said... they were always "I dont know" in that retarded windwos weekly podcast. so again, why should I trust them, there is a reason I mentioned Canouna, if he didnt know something he didnt make a rumor, if he did, he said it, showed it, or said it wasnt right the rumor.  sadly he is gone, but he made real and good leaks about windows 8 when nobody but him said something but stupid rumors tell me what important "rumors" have these both person said about windows 8 that were true? please, can you make me see the light?    oh and you should take the advice yourself, since it seems you are the only one that cares what someone says about others who you dont even know, and they probably think you are nothing because they probably dont know you either. 
  • Again, have a nice day. That's all I have to say to you.
  • Again, have a nice day. That's all I have to say to you.
  • 1. rumors they are True or not true, and guess what? you didnt actually say any rumor she or paul thurrott said about Windows 8/8.1 that were true... 2. you should learn to post only once. 3. by your answer it only shows you are a waste of time with no real words to reply. so no, YOU have a good day, because apparently thats the only thing you know. 
  • 1. There's no point in discussing this, at the end of the day you'll believe whatever you want. It's a rumor, it might be true, it might not, That's just how it works. WPCentral gave it a 9. Agree or dissagree and move on. Deal with it. 2. Oh, hitting my where it hurt, my commenting skills. Come on now. 3. Apparently I'm a worthy time waster and I will have a great day because I choose to be positive and not tie my self esteem to what people on the internet think of me. Never, at any point I was trying to be mean to you, I just said that you attacked them personally and there's no reason for that, there are better ways to defend your point. That's all. I told you to have a nice day because to me wishing someone something positive is better than to fight them and bringing them down, I don't know why would you be offended by that. Be kind to one another people.
  • Wow surprised at your rant. I've always found Mary Jo Foley to be spot on
  • Agree. She was the one that broke the whole Windows Blue/ 8.1 thing.
  • So the upgrade will bring with it a serious downgrade. Meh.
  • Optional.
  • If the start menu return is an option then I am all for it. Myself, I have adapted very well without it, wait... Start menu? I have a very vague memory of it... Was it useful? Lol
  • That menu looks dumb now. They could at least make it look more like the start screen. Sigh...hopefully it stays as an option, cause it defeats the whole purpose of win8 to begin with...