Get your sync on as Microsoft updates Windows Phone app for Desktop to Preview 3
Looks like Microsoft isn’t quite done for the today as they’ve just thrown the switch for the Windows Phone app for Desktop app (Preview 3). The app is used by folks on Windows 7 or Windows 8 (non-Surface) for managing media, including music, videos, playlists, ringtones and photos.
While a far cry from our beloved Zune Desktop client, Windows Phone app for Desktop at least makes it a bit easier to manage things on your device. We’re still not fans of the UI (or lack thereof) and although we can’t see our Xbox Videos, we suppose that’s a good thing since they still can’t sync over.
As far as a changelog, we’re hard pressed to find one on Microsoft’s site though we suspect some improvements with the device-detection logic has occurred making connection a tad faster. We really haven’t seen any newly added features but our interaction with this app on a daily basis is quite infrequent, which means we’ll turn it over to you in comments.
Users can simply download (opens in new tab) and install the new Preview 3 of Windows Phone app for Desktop on their Windows 7 or 8 machines and be good to go.
Personally, we're still waiting on a proper Zune-like client even though we're doubtful that will happen. (Tipping our 40 oz.)
Source: Microsoft (opens in new tab); via Joe Belfiore
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I have to ask again does the ability to rate songs like/dislike on Windows Phone 8 actually do anything? As far as I can tell there are no sync apps that recognize whether you like or dislike a song. And the Desktop Sync App does not sync your Zune or Media Player ratings.
All I want is a way to sync how many times I've listened to a song and my rating for it. I'd be happy even if Xbox Music kept track of this in the cloud for me. I'm not even asking for something fancy like the ability to edit playlists on a phone.
In my opinion that does not excuse MS from having a fully functional (feature parity) client that gives everything that Zune had. They had years to prepare it.
Can any software devs explain why Zune couldn't have been "converted" or otherwise ported to Xbox Music as it was?
That's not hyberbole, that's accurate. I bet there are less than 12 people on earth who can easily create playlists with wp8. Fewer than the amount of people whove walked on the moon
Cannot connect my 8X anymore to my PC.
It turns out, the MTP USB driver is the problem and Windows Update is not able to find the driver for it...
Update: Restarted phone and MTP USB installed properly. Looks like nothing has changed. Meh.
I for once am glad they got rid of that bloody thing with WP8 and I sure don't want it back! It was one of the reasons I actually bothered to spend another 600€ on a new Lumia with WP8: the fact that I no longer had to endure through the awful experience of sync things with Zune and can now just pulg the phone and open it like a normal pen.
And while I don't normally use my phone to listen to music (I have an mp3 player for that) I rather create the playlists on WMP. But to each their own.
The reason why everyone bemoans them not using Zune anymore is because they haven't come up with anything to replace it's functionality.
Zune had wireless syncing. You could keep your subscription music in sync easily just by plugging in the device. You could sync song ratings, play counts, and play lists.
IF xbox music becomes a relevant service, then I could see Microsoft designing a software to match that, but quite honestly, if they went as far as allowing sync with iTunes, I think it's clear that they know the vast majority of people who buys digital music does it with iTunes and will continue to do so, even if they then use Windows Media Player for the rest. The only thing it seems to be missing is the wireless syncing. I trully can't understand the drama of the lack of Zune.
As for iTunes, well, I use it to get podcasts of radio shows that air at times I can't listen, but that's it. I seldom buy music there (but then again I don't buy digital music, I rather buy the CDs.) and I have all my library organized on WMP which already does a great job. Actually I never understood why Microsoft had created another media player when they already have the good old reliable WMP.
Balmer, take a cue from your Pal Elop and give us our money back!
Xbox Music is just broken. Not being able to do a proper "Sync" to make the two apps (W8 and WP8) is annoying. But the inability to add custom Podcast RSS Feeds is just silly. The only way around it I have found was to add them into Nokia Music so they are at least seperated from the rest of the music after dragging them onto the phone. But basically, I've resorted to keeping my Nokia 900 as a PMP so I can still use the Zune software for everything.
Xbox Music is my single largest complaint (and biggest let down) of the entire 8 line up. To go from a great client to one that barely gets the job done and is so poorly designed it is frustrating to use is really dissapointing. Hopefully they get it updated (though speed of updates is another area of disapointment). Xbox Music is alpha-grade software.
but I just tried the same "sync all music" with this new version, and it was much quicker, didn't go through the process of going through the thousands of songs I have.
for some reason it did delete about a 100 songs, then synced them again with the newly added songs to my library since my last sync.
has anyone else noticed this?
Question: Has anyone run into problems using WP7.8 with Zune? I take it the "Modern" "Metro" doesn't like 7.8.
It's like MSFT has taken a playbook page from Sony's PS3 launch, and decided to try to beat the record of how many ways they can sabotage their own success.
and Vista was not that bad after Sp1 and the driver mess was taken care of....
I can forgive a little "2 steps forward and one step back" with an updated OS, but I can't sit around much longer watching this "1 step forward two steps back" strategy erode the value I've paid for.
There are no options for such in zune
The point is that adding and removing music to a device using the file manager requires manual drag and drop snd manual creation of folders. This is time consuming and tedious. We like Zune because it does that all automatically without me even having to plug in my device, it just happens. That is a winner.
Sure there are issues with the metadata based sorting and grouping and managing the metadata is a little fussy, but that's less troublesome than having to plug my device into my PC every day and dragging crap into place.
No settings, No configuations. It assumes you use Windows Library's for everything. For example, I move my pictures from my phone to a shared folder that is Not in My documents, I could do this with no issues with Zune. There is no way from the app to select a save location for stuff.
Can't believe Microsoft even released this for Windows Phone 8, at least they could put some effort in it. Put zune back, make it sync with Zune (or Xbox Music, what ever it's called now), give people the options that people want.
I love my WP8 device but, syncing it has been the worst excuse I have every seen for a phone promoted this much.
I convinced 4 friends to buy wp8 devices (specifically lumia 920) based on my fantastic experience with wp7. They have all now returned to Iphone. Whe they told me how impossible the phone was to manage and how frustrating media management was i didnt believe them. I assumed they were screwing somwthing up and making mistakes. Oh boy I was wrong.
Please cover this. Ask your contacts at ms to explain this bizarre software decision. This one issue will sink the whole platform I promise. This is exponentially a bigger problem than apps. Amoungst my friends ms had 4 new customers and 2 upgraders counting myself. now they have 6 returns. People are not interested in file access at all. They are not interested in using 6 different programs to sync music. Having to dig around the internet for some program somewhere that might get music on your phone with the correct album and song titles without wierd streaming dupes is not having options. It's the reason why the majority of people will return these phones.
It's terribly sad because everything else is so great. Love the phone. But for the average consumer this one issue is that big a deal.
im not sure what that means or if there's a way to fix it, please help