More Treo Pro Pictures (UPDATED with new Details!)

By WC Staff
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When it rains, it POURS. This time we find them from nomad2000, again in our forums, who found them at treo8. What we know:

  • 400Mhz CPU , but snappy response
  • 256MB ROM, 128MB RAM! (Other reports show “In use: 43.96mb, Free 57.72mb”)
  • 320*320 screen
  • GPS
  • Full Tri-band 3G, Quad-band GSM
  • 2 Megapixel camera
  • microUSB connector!
  • 3.5mm Earphone connector
  • 1500mah battery (this is looking like it might actually be true?)

Hit the thread / comments after the break to see a massive number of them!

Update: Also after the break, Scottymomo has dug through his cache and found the original flash demo that was taken down by Palm. There's lots of juicy Treo Pro details to dig through, so click through!

New details on the Treo Pro

  • The battery is pretty much confirmed to be a near-unbelievable-for-this-size 1500 mAh.
  • The WiFi switch is over on the side and works exactly as you'd like it to
  • There is a decidedly non-Treo-esque power button up on the top, which brings the Treo more in line with traditional Windows Mobile devices.
  • Plenty of program memory to work with:
    • Storage Memory Total: 103.05mb
    • Program Memory Total: 101.18mb
    • Program Memory in use (not sure what was running at the time though): 43.96mb
    • Free: 57.22
  • The Treo Pro includes the HTC Memory Manager. Check out the little drop-down in the upper-right of the today screen.
  • Speaking of HTC customizations, it also looks like the Treo sports something very similar to HTC's wireless manager
  • Preinstalled software includes Adobe Reader, Embertec Java for java apps, Telenav, and Sprite Backup.
  • The microSD card and reset holes are underneath the battery cover, but you don't need to remove the battery to access them. It will support microSD cards up to 32gb!
  • It has the 800w's neat screensaver
  • LED isn't all that useful

Be sure to check out scottymomo's new post for the images and the rest of the details!

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  • Original Post @ Treo8.com, a biggest Chinese treo fans site .http://www.treo.net.cn/bbs/thread-90553-1-1.html
    thx for treo8 site admin, and nbsimonzhang share this info , 8-)
    This one is engineer prototype, I donnt know the final release name is 850 or Pro...:o , who cares , I wanna this one! According after centro engineer type appeared, the final version released soon. Hope the retail version will come out soon.....:D
    a little comfirmed spec:
    400Mhz CPU , but snappy response
    256MB ROM, 128MB RAM! (not the strange 32MB....:cool:)
    320*320 screen
    trible wireless (WCDMA/EDGE/HSDPA, Wifi, GPS) GPS not tested yet...
    2Megapixels camera
    microUSB connector!3.5mm Earphone connector!!
    1500mah battery!
    -------------------------------
    Here is pics.....
  • Holy S**t! I want a 200Megapixels camera!
  • Gulp! Those are the best looking leaked photos I've ever seen! No blurry crap here! Wow! Sweeeeeeet! ;-)
  • Looks like my run with the iPhone 3G will be short lived. I'm dying for the power of WM Pro...iPhone can't hold a candle to the productivity of WM IMO. Hurry this to market Palm/AT&T - I'll be paying full retail for it...
  • [URL=http://www.wmexperts.com/articleimages/2008/08/Picture%201-58.png" class="highslide" onclick="return hs.expand(this, { slideshowGroup: 'photo-gallery' },{ src: 'http://www.wmexperts.com/articleimages/2008/08/Picture%201-58-tm.jpg' } )][/URL]
    When it rains, it POURS. This time we find them from nomad2000, again in our forums, who dug them up here.
    Am I missing something? Why is there a link to another forum that contains all the same info as in this thread?
  • Am I missing something? Why is there a link to another forum that contains all the same info as in this thread?
    We have the power to integrate forum comment threads with discussion threads, which is what I did here.
  • Notable: the green dots on the Treo Pro above are on different buttons than on previous leaked images. I'm betting they can use those as a 'key' to figure out who had this one. :eek:
  • That is one sexy looking treo. Screw you gsm guys always getting the good stuff...lol! I sure hope this design comes to cdma next year in the form of an 855w or atleast something close to it. Damn palm with their 800w design :brick:
  • I hope Palm releases this for Verizon and not the.... unpretty 800w out on Sprint. :(
  • I want one! I want to upgrade my Treo 650 to a new Treo on WM 6.1 platform. Let's go Palm, release it!!!
  • Thanks Palm. I understand two different development teams, etc, etc, so the two devices have different appearances.
    BUT a Palm team knew how to fit in a BIGGER battery, real headset slot, and flush screen into a SMALLER package than the 800w and no one told the CDMA team.
    Whoever is in charge of internal coordination over there should be fired.
  • Looks very slick. No doubt.
    I will say, though, that most devices look better in black - if only because it helps it look like one solid unit. Seams blend in with the rest.
    I will say, though, that the smaller keyboard and buttons make it look like Palm could've made the screen larger. Or maybe a larger keyboard instead. Both?
  • New deets:
    http://discussion.wmexperts.com/showthread.php?t=169787
  • New deets:http://discussion.wmexperts.com/showthread.php?t=169787
    Cool, thanks he-who-was-septimus.
    Gotta say: [COLOR="Red">{PLEASE DISREGARD:[/COLOR] I don't see why Palm would make users have to remove the battery (and thus reboot the phone) just to get to the removable storage. Sounds like a huge p.i.t.a.[COLOR="Red">}[/COLOR]
    And, I'm disappointed to see that just trying to turn on the screen can still result in accidentally hanging up on or ignoring an incoming phone call. Am I the only one this happens to?
    EDIT: Props to Palm for bringing back the reset button. Nice.
  • To the above poster: Am I missing something here?The microSD card and reset holes are underneath the battery cover, but you don't need to remove the battery to access them.
  • To the above poster: Am I missing something here?
    YES! YOU'RE MISSING THE ABILITY TO COMPLETELY OVERLOOK OR MISINTERPRET SIMPLE TEXT.
    Work on it!
    :p
    Thx, btw.
  • Haven't been this excited since I first learned about the Treo 600. I'm first in line when this baby hit the shelf! I do hope there are some color options though. Doesn't have to anything flashy, but I'd prefer blue or silver to just plain black.
  • Man, now that's the phone I'm waiting for. A flush screen is sweet for wiping it off, which we'll be doing because my only gripe is all that glossy "new age" phone surfacing. There are fingerprints on every surface in the photos.. yeah, I'm kinda picky about that.
  • Hey, anyone else notice that the softkeys right below the screen that were shown in the leaked photo from May aren't in these new leaked pics? The pics from the flash site still say there are softkeys there, but you can't see the buttons for them. Are they now just touch-sensitive areas or what?
    I agree these are the best leaked pics ever. Thanks for posting them!
  • The softkeys are still there. If you look closely, you'll notice that all of the keys around that area are capacitive.
    The 850 sure makes the 800w look like a box of turd.
  • If you look really closely, you'll notice the entire device is made of nsxprime's dreams. You'll also notice that you can't tell the difference between capacitive keys and flexible push buttons in a photograph. Then you'll realize that nsxprime really has no freaking clue what he's talking about. Then you'll breathe a sigh of relief and move on with your life.
  • If you look really closely, you'll notice the entire device is made of nsxprime's dreams. You'll also notice that you can't tell the difference between capacitive keys and flexible push buttons in a photograph. Then you'll realize that nsxprime really has no freaking clue what he's talking about. Then you'll breathe a sigh of relief and move on with your life.
    Not very kind. Everything about this device is speculation at the moment. Everyone is entilted to their opinion. Would you like my opinion of your fiction? ;)
  • Not very kind. Everything about this device is speculation at the moment. Everyone is entilted to their opinion. Would you like my opinion of your fiction? ;)
    Actually, sure.
    My point was that nsxprime has been trolling the 800w boards for weeks doing everything he can to bash it, and now he sees this shiny new Palm that is just everything he's always wanted, including a pony. I didn't attack him out of nowhere, he brought this on himself. If he hadn't been such an a$$hat about 800w and so persistent about it, I'd let his drooling over the 850 slide. But now he's ticked me off, a dangerous thing to do to a writer in a written medium.
    We know what we know about the 850, and it ain't much. Let's keep further speculation to ourselves, lest it fester into fact.
  • Now we got 800w owners over running Treo Pro 850 forums talking smack...sad sad sad.
    hmm they must be unhappy with there 800s lol
  • whoa.. didn't mean to start a flamewar :D
    I'll speculate that they're probably flexible buttons. in the May photos, you can see buttons that look similar to those on the 800w. Personally I prefer the tactile response of an actual button, but either way it does clean up the look quite a bit.
    However, if they ARE flexible buttons, I wonder what that bodes with regards to the screen (since it seems to be one continuous piece of material covering the screen and those buttons). If it's a really soft plastic, will it be scratch prone? will it feel funny to use a stylus on?
    I wonder if the OP can comment on durability of the screen and the tactile experience?
    Riz
  • whoa.. didn't mean to start a flamewar :D
    I'll speculate that they're probably flexible buttons. in the May photos, you can see buttons that look similar to those on the 800w. Personally I prefer the tactile response of an actual button, but either way it does clean up the look quite a bit.
    However, if they ARE flexible buttons, I wonder what that bodes with regards to the screen (since it seems to be one continuous piece of material covering the screen and those buttons). If it's a really soft plastic, will it be scratch prone? will it feel funny to use a stylus on?
    I wonder if the OP can comment on durability of the screen and the tactile experience?
    Riz
    Yeah, I'm not sure how it's even a touchscreen device considering how it's made. Then again, iPhone screens are made similarly - unfortunately they don't respond to styluses (styli?).
  • Now we got 800w owners over running Treo Pro 850 forums talking smack...sad sad sad.
    hmm they must be unhappy with there 800s lol
    No doubt. It's really pretty pathetic.
    Anyone else notice how bright the screen on the 850 seems from the photos? Compared to the 800w it looks like it has twice the brightness.
  • Now we got 800w owners over running Treo Pro 850 forums talking smack...sad sad sad.
    hmm they must be unhappy with there 800s lol
    err...you don't even own a modern Treo, talk smack about a device you don't own and are lauding a device that is not even out yet.
    You use BB, hang out at TC/WMExperts and throw stones....really? :rolleyes:
  • Dear Palm,
    You may very well redeem yourself with this one.
    It just had better have top notch reception, Treo after Treo, and I have yet to see one compete with my wife's cheap motorola.
  • nice looking device BUT!
    small square screen again!
    what's wrong with palm? dont they see the writing on the wall?
    my xv6800 has been out over a year and has a bigger screen.. same processor and so forth.. it's palm that will make htc literally take over the wm market. SONY is malking a better device.
    the shame of it is that Palm started all this and look at where they are now.. pathetic.
    i still think the other companies are lacking common sense also.. you would think by now they would reach 1ghz processors considering how robust the wm operating system is and needs power to move real quick. everyone just stays in the 400-520 range.. very strange indeed
    for goodness sakes vga units are coming out, wake up palm!
  • Not that I am saying Palm has it all right, but if you want front facing qwerty keyboard, you're stuck with a small square screen. Any company who has moved away from the small screen has also gotten rid of the keyboard. Personally, I stick with the Treo line because I like that front facing qwerty keyboard.
  • err...you don't even own a modern Treo, talk smack about a device you don't own and are lauding a device that is not even out yet.
    You use BB, hang out at TC/WMExperts and throw stones....really? :rolleyes:Your Honer ,I was looking forward to 800w for a long long , long long time.
    Ive owned the P , WX , given much back to this community yet now get crucified for chatting about 850 in 850 forums.
    Some at TC give those that didn't blow there money in 800w slime the label malcontents for posting there feelings on device..yes some get a little out of hand in wrong forum but show restraint when given such label.
    Hey , lets take a closer look at definition, malcontents1. A chronically dissatisfied person.
    The Current 800w owners fit the bill perfectly ,many that own device are always complaining about , battery life , OS performance , weak speaker and sound , GPS , and so on.They want to keep it one day yet want to dump the next.Thread after thread are started about the same issues with very little of them finding a true fix2. One who rebels against the established system: "immature malcontents who have long since sold out to conformity"
    It seems that many of current 800w owners have rebelled against the system and sold out on lack performance thus conforming to Palms lack luster 800w device in turn makes them immature to fact.
    END
    Your Honer ,
    Yes I own a BB ,I had no choice..Palm let me down with 800w yet things are looking up with Treo Pro 850...I more then likely will be investing in device And would like to learn more about without getting hassled by 800w owners and told were to chat about it.
    Thanks for your time:)
    .
    Sincerly
    Philip C
  • err...you don't even own a modern Treo, talk smack about a device you don't own and are lauding a device that is not even out yet.
    You use BB, hang out at TC/WMExperts and throw stones....really? :rolleyes:Your Honer ,I was looking forward to 800w for a long long , long long time.
    Ive owned the P , WX , given much back to this community yet now get crucified for chatting about 850 in 850 forums.
    Some at TC give those that didn't blow there money in 800w slime the label malcontents for posting there feelings on device..yes some get a little out of hand in wrong forum but show restraint when given such label.
    Hey , lets take a closer look at definition, malcontents1. A chronically dissatisfied person.
    The Current 800w owners fit the bill perfectly ,many that own device are always complaining about , battery life , OS performance , weak speaker and sound , GPS , and so on.They want to keep it one day yet want to dump the next.Thread after thread are started about the same issues with very little of them finding a true fix.I can beck this up with fact , Click on "Is your 800w haunted" link in my signature..all the proof is there.2. One who rebels against the established system: "immature malcontents who have long since sold out to conformity"
    It seems that many of current 800w owners have rebelled against the system and sold out to bad performance thus conforming to Palms lack luster 800w device in turn makes them immature to fact.END
    Your Honer ,
    Yes I own a BB ,I had no choice..Palm let me down with 800w yet things are looking up with Treo Pro 850...I more then likely will be investing in device And would like to learn more about without getting hassled by 800w owners and told were to chat about it.
    Thanks for your time:)
    .
    Sincerly
    Philip C
  • err...you don't even own a modern Treo, talk smack about a device you don't own and are lauding a device that is not even out yet.
    You use BB, hang out at TC/WMExperts and throw stones....really? :rolleyes:
    EDIT
    I had a reply to your post but pulled it..Something came up that got my attention.
    My apologies to all that Ive offended.
    I will no longer be a part of Treo Central anymore.
    All take care
    Phil C
  • Now let's all get along.
    I know for a fact that TC doesn't require you to even own a phone to be able read and post here.
  • Wow, lot's of people taking offense to things online, let's all calm down.
    Maybe navyyang (sp?) can tell us about these buttons?
  • Now let's all get along.
    I know for a fact that TC doesn't require you to even own a phone to be able read and post here.
    But that's what the wannabe-mods would have us believe. It's amazing what buyer's remorse will make people like Mal resort to.
  • Dear Palm,
    You may very well redeem yourself with this one.
    It just had better have top notch reception, Treo after Treo, and I have yet to see one compete with my wife's cheap motorola.
    Um. Good point.
    I love my Treo, but it IS embarrassing when I can't get a signal on my fancy @$$ phone while standing next to someone chatting away a 10 cent clamshell.
  • Not that I am saying Palm has it all right, but if you want front facing qwerty keyboard, you're stuck with a small square screen. Any company who has moved away from the small screen has also gotten rid of the keyboard. Personally, I stick with the Treo line because I like that front facing qwerty keyboard.
    Well said. No phone can have it all. I've had a Mogul/Titan, RAZR2, Touch and 800w - all have things I like & dislike.
    The perfect phone doesn't exist IMHO. Which makes it amusing for me when people desperately need to defend their choice of phones, and/or bash the choices of others. I'm not even sure what phone I like best, so I'm in no position to lecture or bash others! And ... it's just a phone!
    I've gone back to my Touch, waiting for the Diamond.
    I really liked the front keyboard and one-handed operation of the 800w. But after using the Touch, a bright & flush screen is now a must for me (a recessed screen just isn't very 'touchable' for me - had same problem with Mogul as 800w).
    If the Treo Pro has a brighter screen with better battery life and a decent keyboard (I like the looks of the 800w's keyboard better), it could be a great phone.
  • Can anyone wager a guess as to when this will be available? I hope it's AT&T and not T-mobile.
  • Can anyone wager a guess as to when this will be available? I hope it's AT&T and not T-mobile.
    T-Mo won't have Palm devices. They haven't by now, why would they?
  • I think it will be introduced with 2 months.
    and maybe ATT won't buy Palm devices , iPhone is enough for them.
  • T-Mobile doesn't care about Palm, so I doubt they'll carry it.
    AT&T's a trickier question. Historically, they tend to avoid carrying nearly identical phones, and they've already committed to the Blackjack III, which is also a 320x320 touchscreen WM 6.1 front facing QWERTY device. They're also mostly a Samsung shop, at least as far as non-Apple smartphones, so they were pretty much guaranteed to pick the BJ3 over the Treo.
    The wildcard here is that they do carry both the BlackJack II and the Motorola Q9h. So they might be willing to bend on WM pro devices too.
  • T-Mobile doesn't care about Palm, so I doubt they'll carry it.
    AT&T's a trickier question. Historically, they tend to avoid carrying nearly identical phones, and they've already committed to the Blackjack III, which is also a 320x320 touchscreen WM 6.1 front facing QWERTY device. They're also mostly a Samsung shop, at least as far as non-Apple smartphones, so they were pretty much guaranteed to pick the BJ3 over the Treo.
    The wildcard here is that they do carry both the BlackJack II and the Motorola Q9h. So they might be willing to bend on WM pro devices too.
    No official announcement = not official. All we've heard about the BJIII are rumors. However, I don't think that they'll stop at just one device. I doubt there is much more incremental cost with adding another smartphone, and it just helps AT&T's marketing campaign, which seems to tout the number of smartphones it carries.
  • looks like the poster in the palm.cn site is an insider or perhaps an employee of palm who leaked out the device. the pictures shown are taken from a DVT unit, in fact it was shown in one of the pictures indicating DVT unit and not for resale. the serial number and IMEI were scratched off to hide it.;)
  • looks like the poster in the palm.cn site is an insider or perhaps an employee of palm who leaked out the device. the pictures shown are taken from a DVT unit, in fact it was shown in one of the pictures indicating DVT unit and not for resale. the serial number and IMEI were scratched off to hide it.;)
    DVT units go to advertising agencies too...you know the guys that make those fancy glamour shots for the device? I'd also imagine 3rd party companies for accessories get them.
    Plus, if you're down the street from one of the factories that's actually making the device, it's probably not too hard to get these devices.
    I'm not aware of Palm ever purposefully leaking information. I know it's a popular meme on the 'nets out there but there is zero evidence for it. And when your product manufacturing is handled by a 3rd party in Asia, it's pretty hard to "control" what happens, try as they do.
  • The softkeys are still there. If you look closely, you'll notice that all of the keys around that area are capacitive.
    The 850 sure makes the 800w look like a box of turd.
    Can we get a confirmation on this?
    I always use the 'disable touchscreen while on call' setting.
    I have GIGANTIC ears.
    Without these physical 'Softkeys' how am I going to select certain menu's?
  • Can we get a confirmation on this?
    I always use the 'disable touchscreen while on call' setting.
    I have GIGANTIC ears.
    Without these physical 'Softkeys' how am I going to select certain menu's?
    We have confirmation that the softkeys are NOT there in the new article on the homepage. Apparently it defaults to being locked on a call unless you press a specific button. Knowing that, now the design does look just slightly wasteful in the height of it.
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  • Looks like a BCD vs straight binary encoding issue, I noted that some other comments above said the same thing, and I concur. For those who don't remember the "ancient past" (in terms of computer technology) there is a slightly archaic format for representing decimal number in binary called Binary Coded Decimal (BCD) representation. In the case of BCD, each base 10 digit has 4 binary bits assigned, and those bits are coded in binary to represent the digits 0 - 9, and the A - F that we are familiar with in hex are just not used at all in BCD. Kind of wasteful and "archaic", not commonly used any more that I am aware of. It was more useful back when mechanical switches interfaced directly to hardware and there was not a layer of software to do the conversion of the codes. Like back in the early 1970's (ancient by modern standards). So somewhere there is something in the SMS gateway system that is still using BCD, but it is being interpreted as binary elsewhere, thus 2010 in BCD == 2016 in straight binary. Funny.