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New photos emerge of cancelled Nokia McLaren Windows Phone, compared to iPhone 6

Earlier today Windows Central reported on the forthcoming Mixview for Live Tiles in Windows 10. In the article, the cancelled McLaren prototype Windows Phone was brought up in referencing the original Mixview design. Now, new photos of the lost McLaren prototype have come forth, appearing once again out of China.

Previously, it was thought that the photos revealed a possible Lumia 1020 successor, however, newer evidence has come forth to shoot down that assumption.

The big question remains though whether or not the device seen in this recent batch of photos is new or just a leftover prototype finally emerging. McLaren was cancelled in late June or early July of this year when the device was entering final stages of development. Although the 3D Touch navigation system was reportedly not ready for release, it is not clear if Microsoft will continue to work on the hardware sans 3D gestures.

McLaren was reportedly a 5 or 5.2-inch Windows Phone with a 20 MP rear Pure View camera. The rest of the hardware specifications are still a bit of a mystery, although it is evident from the photos that it has a smooth, thin, metallic body with edge to edge glass for the display. Additionally, a micro SD card slot can be seen as well, confirming that this device had expandable memory as well as on-screen keys.

In the new collection of photos, we can see the McLaren compared to the iPhone 6 with the Windows Phone holding its own in terms of looks.

Hopefully, more information will come forward on this phone, especially whether we are looking at the past or the Windows Phone future. For now, you can check out many more of the photos over at CNBeta, who are hosting all the images.

Source: Baidu; via CNBeta; Thanks, hengxiang32401, for the tip!

Daniel Rubino is the Executive Editor of Windows Central, head reviewer, podcast co-host, and analyst. He has been covering Microsoft here since 2007, back when this site was called WMExperts (and later Windows Phone Central). His interests include Windows, Microsoft Surface, laptops, next-gen computing, and arguing with people on the internet.

356 Comments
  • so eventually its cancelled right?
  • Yup
  • Or maybe not. But probably.
  • The source CNBeta didn't say a word about the 'cancelled' McLaren.  It only says that MS is continue developing the McLaren.  I'm not sure if that RM-1052 (L1030) is a deritive from the original RM-964 (McLaren) or a separate device.  It is kind of confusiing at this point.  The RM-1052 looks like a quite polished product, more than just a prototype.  I wish that RM-1052 is indeed a successor to L1020 and ready to be released in MWC 2015.  I seriously doubt that MS just abandoned the McLaren outright and threw away the investment.  It is most likely to continue to modify or improve, so it would be more competitive with the latest processor, design and components. I hope that MS would come out to clarify about the rumors, so it wouldn't linger on and waste everybody's time.  May be we can force the issue on January 21st.  :-)
  • Or maybe Microsoft is keeping it quiet so they can release it right after they announce it.  Isn't that what we've been asking Microsoft to do?  Don't we always complain when they announce a product six months before it's available?
  • It doesn't mean they have to announce it the same day it's available in stores. For high-end phones two months in advance is acceptable and desirable. People whos contracts are up would postpone a bit to have the new model. But 6 months indeed is too much. They don't have to copy Apple or whoever, what works for Apple doesn't necesarily work for others. They should be able to figure out what would work for them.
  • Shut up and build this
  • No thanks. I think it was right to cancel this. They should try to make the high end hero phone slimmer so it would attract a larger audience. Looks like a brick compared to the iPhone 6. (Here's coming from a 1020 owner).
  • And make it foldable, like the iPhone 6... In truth, i think Foldgate may have helped to make having the thinnest phone less necessary.
  • I think chasing uber-thin phones is just stupid.  I really don't give a flip how thin the phone is.  In fact, I don't give a flip about the weight, either.  I want the FEATURES and the OS.  None of the rest is important.
  • Foldgate was debunked. The phones were no -more- prone to bending than any other phone under similar and unlikely scenarios. When folding occurred it wasn't as destructive or dramatic as the behavior of other phones. Long story short, just another media-overhypedgate.
  • Long story short, the engineering beam-theory fundamentals are inescapable: the thinner the phone, the more flexible and foldable it becomes.  Thin is nice for not making a big bulge in your pocket, but pursued with the brain-dead groupthink of the gadget press, quickly winds up at technically shaky extremes... just like camera pixels and screen resolution have done.   
  • What is with the obsession with a thin phone? I don't have large hands, and even I find a thin phone difficult to use with one hand, fragile, and more likely that I'll drop it. There are other problems with too thin, just look at the iPhone 6. I don't think a phone should bend during normal use. There is obviously a design flaw with it. What is the benefit of a phone that thin? Are pockets expected to get so thin, that current phone thickness will not due anymore? I guess I just don't get it...
  • They have to make the iPhones super thin because you HAVE to put a fat case around it to prevent it from breaking every time you drop it. Now that puts it onto a level playing field with the durability of the nokias. I have two iPhones and they break just by looking at them too hard lol.
  • well said lol
  • This, dropped my icon plenty of times on to concrete directly on corner, worst damage is a dented aluminum corner
  • That's true, and it's a shame.  iPhones are arguably the prettiest phones around, but you never get to see them because they have to be hidden inside a case.
  • Can we please get the upvote button so every retard obsessed with thinness can see Deamon's post please? Past a certain point, thinness is irrelevant. They're reducing battery size to get there for Pastafari sake!!!
  • I would like a thin phone because it looks nice.
  • I'd rather have useful battery life than a thin phone, iPhone users can tease us early in the day how we're using bricks. But later in the day their phone will be dead. So that's okay.
  • A large chunky phone isn't going to sell though. When a customer picks up the iPhone alongside this monstrosity, the choice will be easy. Microsoft needs to make a modern phone. Most 5" Android phones are the same size as the iPhone. Something that can go toe to toe with these devices on the shelf, not just in specs.
  • 2 year old Lumia 925 resembled the iPhone 6 look but Nokia obeyed the U.S. carriers wants and dumb down the storage to 16GB for a high end phone with no micros SD card slot either.  It only offer one color: White for T-Mobile and Black for AT&T!  The rest were not available.    If Nokia would of introduce the 925 with bright colors and 16, 32 and 64GB options and 2GB RAM and a 800 inside; it would of at least 10X sales of the 925!  
  • mans550.  I definitely do not like the square corners of the windows phones.  They need to take from Apple and develop curves and make phones look good.  Not to mention the square corners have an appetite for jamming into your hands when holding them a certain way.
  • I disagree.  Square corners look better with the square tiles of the UI in my opinion.  The rounded corners on the iPhone look better because their tiles are rounded.
  • Steve, then why does the HTC m8 look so good with the tiles?   It's probably the best looking phone to date for windows phone.  
  • It's subjective, right?  See if you can find a picture of the HTC W8 next to the Icon.  Try this link:  http://pocketnow.com/2014/08/28/htc-one-m8-for-windows-vs-nokia-lumia-ic... I think the Icon's less-rounded corners look much better with squared tiles than the W8 does.
  • Sqauare corners might look better but they certainly don't feel better.
  • Why do people always think that thinner is better.  I hate thin phones, like the Huawei, the LG, the Sony Xperia Zs and other thin phones. I hate them!
  • And they hate you.
  • the date in the photos is in April, but the software is 8.1.1 as i think
  • @Daniel. Thanks Daniel for the enticing and tantalizing tease of an incredibly beautiful and certainly powerful device that sat as the light at the end of the tunnel of Windows Phone expectation for us all earlier this year. A light that was abruptly and unexpectedly snuffed out by Microsoft when they hit the switch ending development of the hero device which would have shone as a beacon to the smartphone industry; representing the epitome of what Lumia and the Windows ecosystem could do to revolutionize the industry, change the game and revitalize Microsoft's mobile efforts.
    Yes the McLaren was a rumor. One with substance. One that began taking shape in our hearts and minds. One that was validated and for which we impatiently waited to materialize. It did not. The images in our minds have since begun to dissipate as a mist in the morning sun. Our hearts were resolved, as time healed the wounds of disappointment and our minds have become reconciled to the new reality where there would be no McLaren.
    And now this Daniel. You brazenly flaunt before our high end flagship desiring eyes, that which could have been. And at Christmas nonetheless. Unforgivable. Totally unforgivable. :-) lol
  • Dude! You should write more! That was brilliant
  • @Rohith Thanks for the encouragement. I appreciate the compliment. I definitely enjoy writing poetry, plays, Christian commentary and certainly tech articles. :-) With hard work and God's help I hope to make it more of a way of life rather than something I do on the side. Thanks again for the encouragement. :-)
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  • The poem beautifully captured my range of emotions during the Mc laren phase. More please!
  • Thanks kesken.  I really, really appreciate your words. :-)
  • Your welcome mate. And I really hope you get to. Cause I'd love to check out your works.
  • Thanks again Rohith. I am encoraged to work even harder to ensure that this passion and dream comes to fruition. :-)
  • What you said, only apply this to the Cyan firmware update at Verizon!  Now you know how we Icon owners feel!
  • @NOLATechy, yeah you guys on Verizon have been hit pretty hard with lack of support. I'm sorry man. :-(
  • Kudos @elderjlward Ernest Hemmingway lauded Mark Twain's Huckleberry Finn as a beacon for all writers to look toward for definitive literary style. If Hemmingway was alive today, he would have revised his words to include this masterful narrative.  
  • Wow Jethro! That's some compliment and quite well put! Methinks there be yet another writer among us. Thanks Jethro. :-)
  • No Doubt! Nailed It! LOL
  • Thanks a lot NH3MAN! :-)
  • That was totally awesome elderjlward!!! I was kinda carried away by your words and really enjoyed reading the facts in a rather poetic manner until I realized it's over. Will surely check out your works!! :P PS: Hard to find such emotional factual input on WC comments these days...
  • Shouldn't you be on a ledge somewhere? :)
  • This is no McLaren, it has virtual buttons. And it's no prototype either. For some weird reason MS thinks January is the best month to launch expensive products. People left with no money after the holidays, bills piling up, just the moment for a new expensive phone. Maybe sometime in the distant future they will figure out how calendar works..
  • I sooo want this to succeed my 1020.
  • I don't. No xenon flash and the lens also doesn't look like it's even the same size as the one in the 1020.
  • It isn't a 1020 successor because it is 20 mp.
  • Agreed
  • I would replace my 1020 with a 20 mp camera if it means I don't need a hump on the backside of my phone.  The phone in the pictures however, still has the hump, and that's a shame.
  • By "this" he meant the looks, not the specs.
  • It has a xenon flash.  You can see it in the pics on the right side of the phone when looking at the camera lens.  What you are looking at is the LED lamp for movies.
  • I doubt that the successor to L1020 will have Xenon flash.  Xenon recharge time, freeze motion and the mechanical shutter could present a speed problem that would be in conflict with Denim which is focusing on the burst of multi-shots.  May be that's why an electronic shutter and dual short-pulse LED flash are used instead.  We should learn more about this latter.  If I have to make a choice between Xenon and Denim, I obviously would choose Denim.  I plan to keep my L1020 around for the occasional needs for the Xenon flash service.
  • Maybe both LED and Xenon would be better. LED flash for burst shots; Xenon for individual shots.
  • Yeah, no thanks. Waiting for a true 1030. Must have at least SD800, Qi, SD expandable, 40 megapixel, 32GB+ storage, lanyard strap, camera grip. Screen no larger than 5", smaller is fine. Polycarbonate preferred.
  • I'm not worried, I'm sure MS will bring out a proper 1020 successor that will be even better than this. Can't wait for Feb to get here and MWC for the announcement.
  • Yep. They have even partnered with Canon for cross licensing if I'm not wrong so can hope for best camera phone.
  • Just evolve 925's design a little bit and develop 935: amoled 5" full hd screen with glance, quadcore, 3gb RAM, 64gb + SD, 20mp 4k camera with xenon and led flash, hardware keys and also one dedicated for camera, Qi, aluminum body... I'd trade my 925 for that and nothing else
  • Hell, I'd trade my Icon and stay on Verizon for that phone bud!  But it would also have to have the capability to do "Hey Cortana" with Denim Firmware.  Wouldn't want to depend on Verizon for any firmware updates!
  • Keep waiting, ain't gonna happen...might as well marry your 1020 cause you got that bitch for life.
  • Yeahhhhh, dont forget USB otg
  • Microsoft please make this happen.
  • Shut up and take my money
  • Agreed.
  • Microsoft always finds a way to inhibit their own growth.
    Look at this phone, it could've taken on the iPhone 6. Now in 2015 all may be lost
  • No Xenon
  • Then what is that rectangle strip then? Looks like some sort of xenon flash. Maybe a new type.
  • Apparently it's the speaker... :(
    Look at the image
  • Speaker.
  • Three seconds late, Dan :p
  • That's what your mom said when your dad, the mailman, didn't pull out fast enough.
  • What were they thinking? Weird spot to put a speaker!
     
  • Why would a speaker be there? Could it be since this is prototype that that is a whole for a Xenon flash just blocked off internally because the Xenon flash isn't developed for it yet?
  • Makes more sense that its a microphone for recording video. After all, sound should be recording from this side of the phone for proper video audio :-)
  • Honestly....does xenon really matter that much?....
  • Yes
  • For a camera dedicated phone, yes. Ancient nokias have xenon and it is a trademark selling point, so why ditch such a big feature? We dont know anything for now yet but i hope xenon remains. LED Flash no matter how many you put in will always be very weak to pick up subjects that are far.
  • It absolutely does, yes. There is no benefit to LED's in low light. They just aren't punchy enough to light up a photo and freeze a shot.
  • No and yes. The reason why xenon rules is the quick pulse it gives and a little more hmph in that pulse range. However pros do use high powered leds at short pulse and the results are the same. How ever it is packing that in a phone that is hard. This 4th green quick pulse led sounds like it could compete.
  • Elite^ knows best, he sells the shit.
  • The difference really is night and day :)
  • LED technology is able to completely replace xenon nowadays. We will see.
  • No need to make more models, they don't know how to improve OS. I have one request to microsoft heads, please atleast use iPhone 6 and Note 4 , then put more features in ur OS. Many peoples are saying goodbye to windows phone because of ugly OS. I am also saying Goodbye Lumia from last 6 month usage. I have wp8.1 i am thinking no improvements than wp8.
  • Me as well . I'm going back to android as soon as possible
  • Are u serious ???the OS is fine and fast compared to langdroid and iOS ...thats why I changed to WP...and we need more models not new OS
  • Yeah, Hakkim is nuts. The OS is what it DOES have going for it. Really the major issues are poor app support and poor availability of high end hardware.
  • That guy is an idiot then again he has his "right to free speech and all" lol but he won't be missed.
  • If that Mo Fugger is from anywhere else besides us, his bitch ass has no rights.
  • World's 73% of smart phone is working Android devices, WP has only 1.3% of world market and it's declining. In US Senate only one member is using WP. If the OS is good they can get more market share. Common people's are checking only functions not the security features.
    WP developers are sleeping and waiting for an illusion. They must woke up from its dead line.
    This is only my personal views. Guys think and decide.
  • Android is very fast now, android lollipop have 3d style, u r saying the WP OS is good. One example, status bar of android has more than 20 features, developers has chances to customize more features, if they want. Music players are working on status bar and even on lock screen. WP has no even a better music player and a video player. Not allowing application backup to sd card. No options to copy contacts to sim card. It has only restrictions. It's made only for an exhibition, not for usage. Very very bad OS i have ever seen.
  • No application back up to sd card?.. Come on.. This man is crazy... Beh..
  • Not true anymore. Most apps can go on sd
  • You forgot what Windows Phone was made for: Simplicity...
    Now tell me, does 20 stuffs in a status bar simple?
  • Backing up contacts to sim is so Android. I just log into my MS account and everything is there.
  • The Android status bar is one of the worst features of the OS, it suffers from information overload because too many apps AND the OS are cramming too much information into it. As for music players working on the status bar, WP has had this since day 1. On the lock screen, Tetra Lock Screen does a lot more than run a music player (it runs frigging MAPS on the lock screen) and Nokia's Glance gives many Android flagship phones a run for their money. As for video players, there are many available including VLC which is a benchmark app for video formats. There are ways of running apps from SD cards, even though this is a really bad idea from a technical point of viewI (just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD). What's even worse of an idea is to try and copy contacts to a sim card, which was designed to hold VERY limited amounts of data. Syncing your contacts via the cloud across any device is probably a better idea, which is why every phone regardless of OS does that. So with each of your arguments deeming Windows Phone "Very very bad OS i have ever seen" now crashed and burned, I suggest you take a second look. Or not, I don't care, except for objectiveness.
  • Preference is purely subjective, this is true.  And there are lots of reasons to "like" Windows Phone.  But for me, there's only one: It's not made by Google.   From a technical standpoint, if you think Windows Phone is remotely competitive in any way, shape, or form with Android, then you are wrong.  That is not an opinion but an objective fact.  There is not one single thing of any significance that you can do on Windows Phone but not on Android, and there are an enormous number of things of great significance that you can do on Android that you can't on Windows Phone.  Add to that the fact that every App (and, as far as I know, it is truly every single one) has a version that is as good or, usually, better on Android than on WP and there is simply no contest. The technical superiority of Android is an irrefutable fact.  Not an opinion.   I say this as a 100% Windows Phone user from the time the Arrive arrived on Sprint.  I spent two years with an Arrive, two years with an L920, and just upgraded to a One for Windows.   In that time, I think the gulf between WP and Android has only widened.  When WP first launched, Android was the clear #2 to iOS.  It was laggy, buggy, ugly and insecure.  Now it is fast (much faster than WP), polished, attractive (largely by stealing a lot of the WP design language!) and secure. It is also the clear #1, with even the much-vaunted Apple desperately trying (and failing) to play catch-up across the board.
  • WP lags like crazy after 8.1.  It is awful.  My 1020 locks and lags more often than it works.  The lagdroid comment is just silly at this point. 
  • Langdroid? Lol can't even spell. Android isn't laggy. You need to get that in your head Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • "ugly OS".... This man needs to be electrocuted!
  • Windows Phone is very attractive, this is true.  But he's entitled to his opinion.   That said, both iOS (which was a hideously ugly skewmorphic nightmare) and Android (which was just kind of homely in a disorganized sorta way) are both pretty nice looking in their latest incarnations.  This is mostly because they now look a lot more like Windows Phone!
  • How do they look similar to Windows. I have both iOS and android devices and it looks no where like Windows phone. I even compare them aside my cousins Lumia 520 and its severly lacking with things compared to iOS and android Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • @Hakkim Nadapyram. People, like yourself are trying to make WP into Android and ios ergo ruining windows phone for everyone who switched from the aforementioned platforms to get away from the stale UX and those who loved Windows Phone for what it was prior to the amalgamation of android/ios-esque features.
  • I went from a Nokia L 920 to an LG G2 Love the speed of the phone and the large 3000 battery. Things not so great in Android, having to keep on top of daily app updates and scan fro viruses.  If the 1020 replacement has a bigger Battery xenon flash and screen 5+ inch that will be my next phone.
  • ok byeeeeee! like who gives a F hakkim... d'you really think highly of urself that u feel itll be a huge loss for WP with u leaving the platform? heck, go away asap. pronto!
  • Hell yeh, if I loved Android I would not be wasting my life making comments on WC.
    #GetALife
  • Its not about the OS, its the apps. What features is the OS lacking?
  • All of them.  Windows Phone can't do nearly as much as my Nokia E71 could!
  • You're just being stupid
  • Its a beauty, it also inherits some of its looks from the legendary 920 :-)
  • Can we assume that the successor to the Lumia 1020 will look similar or be a more refined version of this prototype?
  • I really hope it will be a refined one...
    I'll be waiting for the next PureView flagship :)
  • I wonder about the 3D technology ... What is the future of it
  • Ask Amazon
  • Lol, the 3D Technology of Amazon is hanging in the air..
  • Exactly
  • Man. This mixview feature sounds slick. Too bad the 3D feature wasn't ready. Hovering your hand to explode tiles sounds futuristic. Microsoft needs to release a standout flagship. And in the US one that is on EVERY carrier.
  • Heck, just stick a LTE Radio that has support for every single LTE frequency and sell it everywhere in the world. Therefore 1 Model for everyone thus ending the moronic carrier or retailer exclusives.. Only problem? The blasted CMDA only carriers lol -.-".
  • It is already like that for the rest of the world, an international model which works everywhere except the US.
  • Yes, just they are variants of the same model. A single model to this day doesn't have all the LTE bands and will remain this until something drastic happens or a company makes a stance.
  • Microsoft too scare to do that! It would ban them from all the U.S. Carriers - the exclusivity!  It working great as you can tell; with U.S. market share at 2% and falling!  LOL! 
  • That is most likely true, sadly...
  • I dont think its McLaren... Its jus some other device
  • Tom Warren says it's McLaren. He could be wrong, but in this case I'm leaning towards his claim. Afterall, neither of us are aware of any Lumias in the late stages of development that matches this device.
  • It was this far into development and still cancelled is what bugs me :'( Just release it without 3D touch MS!
  • Why? With a 20MP sensor and LED flash, it is no better than the 930 really...
    Better to leave it unreleased if it brings nothing new to the table.
  • My understanding - based on conversations with a friend who works at Nokiasoft - was that McLaren was pulled in part because of serious overheating problems during activities like game playing.
  • Seems plausible.
  • What about Lumia phones in the late stages of development that do not match this phone? 1030?
  • The last pic looks like the design concept posted the other day for rumoured 1030. How so similar!
  • No change in app list. I hope this is past.
  • What's wrong with the app list?
  • According to WC,McLaren has WP 8.1 gdr2 update. And gdr2 supposed to come with sorting option in settings and app list. So this would be little disappointing.
  • App List? Could u really read the Chinese Language of the apps? 0_*
  • Take your time, MS. I'm cool with my HTC One for a while. My contract is up in August, even if W10 is delayed hopefully it would still make it to the shelves by the end of summer. Something exceptional HAS TO accompany W10.
  • Don't know how contracts work in your country, but in mine I have the option to get a new phone throughout the whole contract period.
  • In mine they're a lot cheaper when you get them at the end of your contract.
  • Its Slick compared to the thickness of iPhone. Looks good to be a prototype.
  • I'm so glad its not the successor to the 1020. I want more colour on my 1030 please MS
  • You kidding right? The iPhone looks gorgeous elegant device compared to that brick once again
  • I'm considering the bb passport or ip6. Please stop me Microsoft! Come out with something very thin, light, and powerful please.
  • HTC m8, btw since when is the iPhone 6 powerful?
  • Well if you're talking about cpu/gpu the iPhone 6 is extremely powerful.
  • False.
  • Benchmarks say other wise. Perceived power is better than the power on paper. Posted via Windows Phone Central App
  • the 1020 is about 3 years old i believe? it has a dual core processor and 2 gigs of ram and its specs TRUMP the iphone6 garbage,the pricy apple product is expensive because you are paying for the name,NOT QUALITY
  • The iPhone 5s a7 chip was compared to the SD800 chip and the 800 chip was only more powerful in CPU on the gpu side the power vr chip that apple uses didn't give the 800 a chance. The Lumia 1020 in hardware was superior to the iPhone but its CPU is good but weak.
  • It the most powerful SoC for now!  In some performance test; it 2X that of the Snapdragon 805! 
  • Bb passport might be a lot of things, but it isn't one you'd pick for portability. The L1520 can fit in a pocket, the passport with its sheer width would be a struggle.
  • Take a look at the HTC One M8 for Windows. Awesome phone.
  • Still I can't believe they just dropped it and that's it. Surely they'll use some solutions Nokia came up with while working on McLaren.
  • It happens all the time, this one just got more headlines because there were a few high profile leaks about it prior to the cancellation.
  • Plus alot of people were clamouring for a high end flagship and that mixed (no pun intended :P)  with mixed view made a compelling case.
  • Damn I want this.
  • That's looks beautiful, y was this cancelled again?? Coolest Man Alive
  • Why is the iPhone screen off? Are they trying to hide the cute icons?
  • Wtf
  • Cute? Hahaha...
  • Microsoft had got a cross patent agreement with cannon. so does that mean the new flagship might have cannon lens with pureview technology and carl zeiss.
  • Carl Zeiss is lenses if I remember correctly.
  • yup Carl Zeiss is lenses, so if Microsoft is with cannon there will probably use canon lenses, so i dont know if purview is only for the Zeiss lenses or if it can be introduced into cannon lenses !!!
  • Don't take this as me yelling, but FYI, Canon has one 'n' in it's name. It would be awesome to see an Canon lens in a Lumia.
  • I pictured a cannon rising out of the screen and firing away. Bringing mobile multiplayer to the next level (banned in CA, NY, CT, and IL)!
  • Not cool
  • canon.. caNoN.. 2 n's lol
  • I meant to say in the middle of the name. At least I spelled it correctly.
  • I dont really care how much 'n' Canon have and i have never said something like "Canon have crappy lens", in fact they build very good camera !!! So tell me FYI mean "fuck you idiot" or something like that ?? If your not mad or yelling what are your trying to tell ?? If you wanted to teach me how much 'n' Canon have then its done good work !!! But you miss the subject...
  • For Your Information.
  • @ Sebastien Therrien, it means just as Andrewb65 said. You can really see the language / regional barrier when it comes to acronyms and humour :P.
  • @ TechFreak1, Haha i was not sure im not native english speaker, but it look similar FYI !!!
  • Lol, I figured as much - have had experience in my previous jobs.
  • That exchange was hilarious.
  • Indeed it was lol.
  • I have no idea of what you're saying. But you sound really really angry for some reason.
  • If you talk about me, nope im not angry at all, peace dude !!!
  • Multiple "!" in your comments indicated otherwise...
  • The Canon licensing agreement is for imaging algorithms not for lenses or sensors. Zeiss said after the Nokia D&S aquisition that their partnership will continue under MS and will continue to provide lenses for future phones. It's difficult to make small lenses for mobile devices and Zeiss has a lot of experience in this area and others cause they provide optics for different fiels. Cnon does not
  • smart guy right here
  • Wow, on screen buttons instead of capacitive? 
  • Not liking that.
  • Ageed.
  • Nothing "wow" about that.
  • Nope for me. Keep the buttons.
  • Yep..keep the buttons... On screen buttons sucks in my friend's lumia 730,,
  • Remember this was supposed to have 3D touch so maybe that was the reason for onscreen buttons
  • Screen looks like it is very hi res in the photo with the tiny text in the corner.
  • Shame
  • Cancel the 3D touch features and just sells the phone. Lol.
  • I just hope that the next flagship will not have overheating problems especially when you play mobile games
  • Games = Over heating - its present in every smartphone mate...
  • Why is there a hump if it only 20 mp? New sensor maybe? 
  • Possibly. Or it could just be there to associate it with the 1020s popularity,
  • Haha, popularity compared to what? Man, Windows Phones aint selling numbers at all. Sadly.
  • My 925 has a hump.
  • Why does Microsoft/Nokia insist on rear facing speakers? I would definitely rather have them on the bottom. Or front in a perfect world.
  • Probably because people inadvertently cover them up instead of cupping their hands around it. When you take that into consideration the placement of speaker sort-of-makes sense. Just not within the housing for the flash and camera module lol...
  • That's the one thing I love about the HTC One M8. Great awesome stereo sound coming directly at you since speakers are placed in the front.
  • What a horrible looking phone. The idea is great with 3D and all but the hunch back of Notra Dame camera thingy...... bloody horrendous, makes it look like an after thought and that a small low budget firm has made it. The phone is probably cancelled and never to return but it if is to be released please do it with out the outdated hump on the back, it was fine in the past to show that it was packing a big awesome 41mp camera but we can now build a mobile quite easily with 20mp with out the hump and keep the phone slim and sheek!
  • Totally agree. I thought I was the only one who is a bit put off by this design.
  • Looks like a phone that fit in with the original 60s Star Trek series.   Totally crazy with the big hump in the center and the way it looks in total!  LOL!
  • i think that "hump" is present due to their specific choice of optics,not lack of updated technology
  • Looks real enough.
  • My Lumia 920 will be the first phone I'll keep 2,5 years. I'll wait for a w10 flagship in the summer/fall.
  • Same as me. Definitely waiting for now. Suspect there will be some cool new hardware next summer. In the meantime I even have a spare 920 in case my main one breaks :-)
  • I kept my HTC Desire for around 5 months after my contract ended, while waiting for the 920. Moved on to a sim only plan and saved £10 per month. Looks like I will have the 920 for a little while longer.
  • Microsoft f**cked up windows phone. We need a good choice of high end, mid end and low end phones. And what do we get? A canceled McLaren Device, a speculated 1030 and only one high end device:930. I'm not buying any new windows phone until 1030 comes out or if they put McLaren back to life. Will stick to my 1020
  • We're on the same boat here...
  • goes for me, L1020 until its successor comes
  • You have an excellent choice of phones. The only thing you have to decide is whether you want to pay for your phone, or that you want to commit to an operator, thus surrendering your choices in favor of theirs.
  • Nothing wrong with a 20mp camera . My 1520 has a 20mp camera and its the best camera I've seen on a phone
  • Then you haven't seen the 1020 have you. :-)
  • More than 10 or 13 megapixel are deemed unnecessary on smartphones. But manufacturers are still able to rip-off consumers by giving them a big megapixel count. It's just a number, people. Get over it. Sensor size, processing power allotted to the camera and other features matter much more.
  • Will you get an intense orgasm IF the 1030 comes with 41 or 52 Megapixel AND 1" sensor and perhaps more badass camera features? You seem to forgot that the only phone that has bigger sensor than the Lumia 1020 are Nokia 808 and the newly released Panasonic CM1
  • What I meant was that even if 1030 had only 20 megapixels but bigger sensor and other specs that it still will be great enough. I'm saying that huge megapixel count isn't a necessity for the 1030. It wasn't also for the 1020. But 1020 had other specs like sensor size etc that why it had such a great camera.
  • Agreed, but then again the philosophy behind the magic PureView number (41) was to allow high-level zoom without compromising quality and, to a lesser extent, design.
  • ''the philosophy behind the magic PureView number (41)'' was to allow oversampling not lossless zoom. they needed that many pixels: data from 7 pixels combined for 1 ''PURE'' ''superpixel''. lossless zoom iwas a fortunate byproduct
  • Thanks for correcting me :)
  • I think it made sense to cancel this. Not the right time. The Nokia name needed to go. The new devices will come middle of next year sporting windows phone 10 im sure. They realise that they could release the phone and it will get lost in the masses of other Nokia Lumias. I expect a big advertising drive and a slew of new phones once win 10 is out.
  • I think all thses leaks are leading up to a ebay appearance, and these are a ploy to bump up the price. Yeah I am bitter and mad that I won't be able to afford it.
  • well I'm kinda relieved that it's not the Lumia 1020 predecessor, as I still love mines. 2016 is a better release for the successor
  • No, way too long... The 1020's internals are almost two years now...
  • Wasn't the 808 the 1020's predecessor?
  • yeah
  • The back look awful and only 20mp with this big black and ugly thing, the front seems to look like the 920 with 5 inches instead not really innovative but still looking good !! I really hope they will come back with the small aperture size with the new lenses, because i take better pictures and video are less grainy with my 920 than my 1520 in low light !!! The 920 was an indestructible beast...
  • it's not because pf aperture you get grainy pictures with the 1520. it's because the size of the pixels. they are smaller then the ones in the 920/925
  • Well i mean the aperture is for the low light !!! But i dont know how the smaller pixels can put grainy in my pictures or video ?? And i wonder why the low light can affect my video because the lens is supposed to be always open is it because of the aperture too ??
  • Damn, full metal body = no wireless charging
  • I would buy it at any cost
  • I wish there is a tool to overclock the 1020. I'm ready to take the risk.
  • If it was possible there would be a 100% chance of your phone overheating and draining the battery in a second.
  • Looks like someone dreamed of a Lumia 1020 running lagdroid there lol
  • But will it bend?
  • Good question...
  • Either way Microsoft better bring a new toy to Verizon with the Lumia icon gone we are left with only a 928! Why they would discontinue the icon instead of 928 is beyond me. It's like having walmart/best buy sell only 360 and ps3.
  • No matter what ill be keeping my Nokia Lumia 1520 til Microsoft improves. Back up phone will be a Samsung device
  • Samsung?.. Such a quality less product i have ever used... Not even interested in Samsung even if they offer me a free Note 4..
  • I bought an OPO to learn how to use Android, and I am lost as a bunny in a Pepperidge farm. However, they better hope I dont like the phone because its nice but my next phone needs to be Nexus 6 sized with 805 Snap, 64GB of storage w/expandable memory oh and 20MP camera with OIS in an array of colors from Yellow, Green, Red and Cyan. Oh put the headphone jack on the bottom please, A 3200Mah Battery and include wireless charging. THANKS!!
  • Just go with the Sony DR-BTN200, forget the wires and go bluetooth, they have great audio, battery endurance and affordable price...
  • Thank god they canceled it.. It's ugly and bump is ugly.. Design is ugly and phone is not pocketable so big
  • It looks to me like a 1520 & 1020 hybrid.
  • 3d gestures ate not even on my top 20 most wanted features list.
  • First release d godamn lumia camera v5 app
  • Design-wise it looks like a successor to Nokia Lumia 925.
  • The photos are from the same shoot as the others. Why is the article headlined as such? It says that evidence has shot down this as a 1030, what's the evidence?
  • The non-existent evidence brought by... The Verge(a company that LOVES apple, likes android and HATE Windows Phone)...
  • SD-card support!!! I'll replace my 1020 immediately when this is available!!!
  • Never was cancelled
  • I'm onboard with the camera hump when it's a 1020 with a crazy 40MP camera. For this device with a more typical 20MP camera, the hump seems like lazy engeneering. The Galaxy S6 will get that in there with a much less intrusive hump.    Also, seems like an unnecessary amount of non-display glass and bezel at the top and bottom of the device considering it has onscreen command buttons.    Probably good that they didn't release this, feels unfinished and I think Qi is a absolute must have feature. I'm still dying for a 925 replacement (and CalDAV support, but that's a different rant).  
  • My 1520 has 20MP camera and its hump is small, and the iPhone 6 looks small compared to this Lumia and the iPhone is a huge chunk of bezel. I was gonna write just now that this Lumia is ugly, thank for starting.
  • Totally agree.
  • Lets do the hump....
  • I like the size (5 or 5.2") why don't they cover up the hump utilising this extra space with a bigger battery? some of us don't mind the extra weight. no on screen buttons please!
  • I wish i wish i wish but is not gonna happen!!! Would love a dbl battery version with a real full day of battery.... but is never gonna happen.... they keep making those super thin phones that don´t last a 3/4 of a day if you really use it... and that in some cases they burn battery faster then it can recharge! This is painful!
  • man i wish this phone or something similar would come out already and not wait until windows 10
  • This is what would have happened. Microsoft releases 3D Phone. No one cares. Apple releases the same phone, people go nuts.
    *this is what happened to tablets*
    Hats off yo the innovation at Microsoft..! The guy who gave the MixView idea should be given an award.
  • The sad truth :(
  • Looks like a wild N9 and a wild N8 porked and that was the result
  • Just develop a surface phone already, please, pretty please?
  • God no, it would be buggy as hell. It was my worst decision ever to buy a surface pro 2.
  • Yes! Because anything that would be called "Surface" would automatically bad because you had a bad experience with your Surface!
  • I hope to see 1030 soon .
    Other site "NPU" still think that McLaren and 1030 are different types.
    Thanks
  • Well they are correct in that regard as the prototype has only a 20mp camera and no xenon flash.
  • Yup..McLaren is the prototype
  • Humps are cool... as long as takes superlative shots, fast, I mean ****Ing fast with a battery that lasts whole day and runs like a dream on Windows10, ... just saying!!!
    We may not need a 41mp shooter why not a 30mp and retain the Xenon? Did I mention it gotta be fast?
  • +920.
  • +1820
  • +1263.2
  • Looks ok I love my 1020. I'm not switching any time soon.
  • Soft keys should not exist on high end Lumia
  • +1
  • What a peculiar place to put the speaker... Lol. Also, that design would be a fingerprint magnet... Unless they have put on a coating similar to the one designed by the researchers at the Max Planck Institute.
  • TechFreak1. Sadly allot of people here comented about it's speaker, showing how small their knowlege about Nokia and it's smartphones is. My friends, nokia n8 and 808 have the same place for their speakers on the camera hump;). I really find nothing wierd about it, what i don't like is the speaker on the buttom and it's way of caching allot of dirt with no wy to get it out even if opened cause tthe speaker is simply blended in the case.
  • I don't know why people bitchin' about the camera hump. That makes it look cool, different and not blend into the uninspired mass of crackphones out there. And that is also one small reason i now hold a 1020.
  • Was the McLaren not the code name for the 1820? Either way just scrap the software for the 3d touch and release this! While low end phones can help attract people to the windows phone market (Lumia 520 showed that) many people including those who already own a windows phone want highend quality phones and we haven't had any in months....especially in the UK which was the 930 I think in January or February this year. I myself have been waiting since August to upgrade as my Samsung Ativ S - which was one of the first wp8 devices still out paces all the recent releases with pathetic snapdragon 200 & 400 chipsets....y would I downgrade? At this moment its either take an old upgrade with the 1520 or 930 or stick it out which I assume many will do if they dont jump ship to android or ios which either way (losing sales with no upgrades or loss of customers) looks bad for windows phone market - my opinion, you may disagree
  • Totally agree. In US, MS' abysmal 3% market share will fall as folks like me go buy a flagship. Calling year+ old 1520.or 1020 a.flagship is foolish and the 830, please...
  • Foolish is stating that a phone which was released over a year ago cannot be a flagship phone.
  • Microsoft should take the Apple way of stretching out the smartphone by just adding better internals to the existing case like iPhone N and then NS to follow.  I would love to see them keep the 925 case and upgrade the internals to: Snapdragon 805; 4GB RAM and 2K screen with the same camera as the 930 and 64GB storage and call it the 935! 
  • Robert de Graffs strategy is the death knell for Windows phone....just take a look at the actual sales. Good for comic relief though
  • I think comic relief was the only goal I was looking to achieve with my "strategy". I therefore claim moral victory and now own the internet.
  • which evidence has come forth to shoot down that assumption?
  • Sadly is not the successor of the Lumia 1020 but put the good features in it and it would be an awesome flagship worth buying for
  • Hi, the McLaren seems to be powered by a Snapdragon 800 (MSM8974), and running WP8.1. on a HD Display. 4G capable with a µSD extension :)
  • Snapdragon 800 is a year and half old!  By Spring there will be the 810 and 815 SoC coming out!  Currently, it the 805! 
  • We need this phone :@
  • Now that's a windows SMARTPHONE
  • Is it me? or does "Microsoft mobile" on it's back still means it's a future device?
  • The facts is that it seems to be a Proto phone with an IMEI (478791225) retrived by MS during the aquisition (and labeled MS).
  • Look at the front photo. Compare the single undisrupted curved glass on the McLaren to the iP6. Which looks better? The iP6 is seriously ugly. The side shots are the only ones that make the iP6 look good.
  • Those on-screen buttons are ugly!
  • A 1520 and a 1020 get drunk one night and then had this.....
  • What a brick of a phone.
  • Think I preferred the 1020 look tbh, even if this did have a more 'premium' look.  Preferred the polycarbonate on the 1020 to what looks like metal on that, not really much of a fan of the change of material at the bottom and I really don't like it when they leave lots of space at the bottom where capacitive buttons could fit and then choose on screen.  It could have all changed I suppose at it was unfinished.   Even with all this though, I wouldn't have wanted it to be cancelled.  It's still a nice phone and MS could do with a hero device.  The 930 just isn't it imo.  
  • glad they stoped
  • The McLaren is cancelled right? Then why do you guys keep showing us pictures of it? That's totally unnecessary.
  • if they could make that bottom part glow when cortana is talking, or glow in the dark!!!!!.  
  • Um that looks like a I billion mp camera
  • I didnt like the Design
  • I never believe any trash that comes from The Verge for ONE simple reason: they HATE windows and by extension Windows Phone too. Since the only reliable source is Microsoft, I grab the things they say and put in in the bin where they belongs...
  • 3D gestures? No thanks. How about a 920/1020 successor with upgraded specs and the best camera possible without requiring a bulge and a better battery?
  • At least they relaxed this canceled unicorn with another compelling upgrade...oh, wait, I am still on my 920 because all they put out was crap running on low-end SoCs.
  • Can someone explain why the heck would the camera would have to be that huge for only 20MP? The camera is nowhere near that big on my 1520. It looks more like the 1020s size. My point is that if it's that size,then it must be something extra special if it's 20MP,otherwise I don't get it.
  • GSMArena says this is the 1030, and is not cancelled. Well, fuck them and their nonsense. I am so glad that this isn't the 1030 without the xenon.
  • I don't think this is very impressive. But I'm not a fan of phones that can dent ant easily scratch. Nor do I like the look of the camera area. It's a phone that they're trying to make look like a camera. IT'S A PHONE!
  • I guess you don't understand the 1020 either then.
  • Okayy
  • The flagship phone must have all the features and use the latest chip, i hope the 1030 would have the 810 or 808 chips. if MS could put the best of whatever they can put on this phone irigardness of what it would cost and name their price just like what they did on Surface pro 3 i have already started to save some cash for this phone. prepaired to pay upto US$1,000.00
  • If its new, I have no doubt that the specs and the camera will be incredible, but that camera housing is ridiculous and so ugly. I don't know why they cant just "blend" the camera into the back of the phone like they did with the 920 or Icon.
  • Enough with the cheap phones, bring on a flagship phone and on vzw!!
  • I think this is(was) project for 1525 or 1530, as 1020 is smaller device and its next version won't have led light and be this big. If this is project for 1530 with 41mp camera, upgraded processor, I'm all in
  • Man, that would've been dope!
  • By design it sure looks a lot like an updated 1020; I am glad it got canceled, without Xenon flash, it would not replace the 1020, seems like Microsoft is losing it's way getting all that Nokia brilliance. Why put in the massive oreo cookie when its reportedly only 20mp? And if it's more, i.e. to replace the 1020 why the hell no Xenon flash? Also non-replacable battery is a big minus for the device. And I sure as hell hope any replacement of the 1020 has a lanyard hole and a similar camera grip accessory as the 1020, just putting this out there, regardless of what this canceled device was.    
  • In all honesty, it looks like my Lumia 920 enclosed in a metal body.
  • Sorry but the camera hump looks absurd. It was cute for the 1020 and proved their point but hope they can come up with something better than this in the future. Was hoping for some new groundbreaking innovative camera technolgy using Pelican Imaging or something and not some big ugly hump on the back again. And why the hump if only 20 MP?? 
  • just make a godda*n true flagship allready! what Are they doing at M$?? developing low end devices only? i'm waiting for more than 2 years to replace my 920, but all the new phones are not impressive at all! make something or we will switch evenualy. and i'm not paying 500€ to be "meh" about my phone!
  • And I'm sure MS will find a way to frak it up and cripple it somehow. No built in wireless charging, no Glance, no sale!
  • Damn it MS why couldn't you just have put a better processor, 1 GB more RAM, and the 5 MP FFC in the Lumia 830?
  • Microsoft is not that smart as Apple.  Apple used the same case for two years and just improves the internals!  Microsoft needs to develop from scratch each model.  Totally stupid!  That why Apple makes the dough and Microsoft does not!
  • I'm starting to think "McLaren" is the codename for all the cancelled projects. And all of his different phases might be recognized as the Harry Potter books. "McLaren and the iPhone 6", "McLaren and Nokia's deathly hallows", "McLaren 2014: The return of the McLaren".
  • So is this McLaren actually coming to light after all??? It's stunning and I would definitely consider getting it if it's actually going to be released and will be available on all the carriers (T-Mobile here).
  • Microsoft is beholding to Verizon for anything high end WP it seems.  Even AT&T is out of the picture for high end models.  They seem to love Verizon delay stuff to February and then canceling the high end model in September!  LOL!
  • I don't like on screen bottoms.
    I don't think I'll buy that phone,because the on screen bottoms.
  • I hope the next successor ends up a bit smaller because that phone looks annoyingly large for a device that isn't a phablet.
  • Looks like QWERTY is coming to Windows phone. Personality I don't like it but I know a lot of people will be pleased.
  • Please make more 5.7 to 6.1 inch phones!
  • Looks like a Lumia and the HTC radar had a baby
  • I just can't buy into that being a 20MP camera. If the 1520 can have a 20MP camera in a much thinner and smaller protrusion, then this either isn't only 20MPs or it is more than just a camera.
  • This could have actually made Windows phone relevant. Microsoft really messed up this time with their rollout schedule and priorities.
    NO carrier exclusives. NO MORE mid-range phones. Give us an all-around high end Windows phone flagship that's available EVERYWHERE. I live in Canada and I can even see the frustration behind their thought process...
  • 6 or 6+?
  • That thing is hideous, especially when you consider the fact that it doesn't have a 40+ megapixel shooter like the 1020. There is absolutely no reason to put a giant hump on the device if it doesn't include a camera that requires that space to do it's thing.  I really would like to see Microsoft go back to the basics and go back and refresh the Lumia 900/920. Those devices in my opinion have the best looking phone design of all the Lumia devices. Their biggest drawback was weight when the market was going thinner and lighter the 920 was thicker and heavier.  I would love Microsoft to release a 930 that goes back to the 920 design that is thinner and lighter while upgrading the screen to 5" with a 1080p resolution a long with the other upgrades in processor, ram, storage, battery, sensor core, etc... If they did that it might get me to get another Lumia instead of an iPhone 6 when I upgrade in 2015. I hated the Lumia 925, It had relatively poor build quality (creaky backplate for example). I never did like the fusion of metal and polycarbonate that Nokia went with in the 925. The screen wasn't much of an upgrade either. That device should forgotten in future design language. 
  • Yea. I'da bought it. They can't be that dense. They have either given up on increasing US market share or decided it's irrelevant until they revamp the OS via W10. Either way sucks. This piggie on all carriers right now would be a nice holiday alternative.
  • Or else it could be a red-eye reduction LED, the one found in older Nokias like N82, N95.
  • It looks nice.. but thats what it is.. Nice. And they cancelled this because of the 3D gestures not being ready. 2015 resolution for Microsoft should be to release this phone! Something actually innovative and not some cheap hardware upgrade!
  • Man this device is perfect
  • After looking at the photos from The Verge; I am glad that the 1030 was canceled.  It looks okay from the front; but the back is total a different look too big of a bump.   Microsoft should work on a new 935 model that resembles the 925!  This time increase the storage options to at least 64GB instead of 16GB.  And if you can; get a micro SD card slot inside it too!
  • If it's that thick... then they could do away with the camera hump.  Maybe that's why it got cancelled so they can redesign to make it skinny with a hump or thick without the hump. I think I would prefer thick without the hump.  Interchangeable lens would be nice too and a 6 inch version.
  • Looks like it needs a qi cover anyway :)
  • I hope they post sample pics taken by this phone! 
  • I was excited to hear about the release of this phone and now im hearing that they cancelled it. thats dissapointing. and I look over the comments at most peoples opinions and the reasons why someone would turn down a phone is ridiculous,seriously? you're gonna turn one phone down over the other because of the thickness/thin of the body? it seems as though the biased are just making up reasons to hate the competition because there is really no reason to not buy a windows phone,my 521 trumps most phones when i say the word poly carbon to an iphone user,and most high end android consumers (we all know Glocks are made with this material ;) ) so then again with a different principle..why would you choose an iphone over a windows phone? shear preference is one thing,but the excuses that im hearing on the internet? you gotta be kidding me -_- ...and you almost really cant use the lack of apps excuse anymore there's pretty much everything you need to be caught up except for kik which was in the lumia collection but then nothing happened. anyone happen to know what happened to all of that?
  • I had the 928 for a year and got the 6 when it came out. Although there only like 2-3 apps I'm using that i couldn't before. There are a ton more that i see are available to me that i probably would have gotten if i didn't learn to live without them thanks to being on wp. Local apps being the biggest nuance. Not to mention it seems like the apps on wp get absolutely no love. They're so bare bones compared to the iPhone iterations it's like they just rushed it to get it out there. No more worrying about some video file not working properly or some website not running. Everything on my new phone just works. All i really miss are Cortana and WordFlow, but a new keyboard app came out that solved that and MS is dumb enough to put Cortana on other non Microsoft devices. WP needs to come out with a BADASS flagship of they want to win people over... And it can't look like that McLaren. So ugly
  • Dang this phone looks perfect, 6" ... 1020 camera :|
  • Replaced by 930?
  • So the leaked images of the "1030" are just the McLaren?
    Thats a shame.
  • Meh.
  • RIP
  • Still waiting for a 1020 successor. Currently on 930 but I used to own the 1020 and I was very close to go back to Android because of lag of flagship WP
  • Robert de Graffs strategy is the death knell for Windows phone....just take a look at the actual sales. Good for comic relief though
  • Exactly. AT BEST wp's market share stayed stagnant in 2014. No market share = no developers, and no developers = no market share. So much potential being flushed down the toilet. 
  • comparing a phantasy/cancelled ohone to an iPhone?? Is this what we've come to?? 
  • Whatever they come out with, just eliminate the shutter lag!!
  • Good thing it was cancelled.  With that hump, a 20 mp is just silly.  Nah... I'm just no sold on anything this prototype represents.  
  • Good thing they cancelled it.  That white platic on the bottom would get so dirty in no time at all.  Big black circle on the back of that phone TO ME is not a good look.  Plus it looks thick and heavy; STILL.  softkey buttoms is interesting on a flagship but accessing Cortana through the lockscreen when my phone is locked????
  • I'd hit that
  • MS needs a carrier-agnostic flagship phone.  Even the most loyal MS fan wants new hardware every year or two.  Granted, the OS updates have been great (especially if you are on DEV preview) but hardware gets headlines.
  • It's because this phone was cancelled why i have an iPhone 6 now. The iPhone definitely looks better than that big phone though
  • could have been amazing... was this canned before or after Nadella took the throne?
  • yeah Nadella cancelled it.  http://www.utahpeoplespost.com/2014/07/microsoft-satya-nadella/