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New policy for Google Voice means an end to MetroTalk for Windows Phone

Google just can’t seem to make friends with Windows Phone. The latest crackdown will come in May 2014 when the search giant begins to enforce its terms-of-service for its Google Voice service, barring third-party companies from making apps.

Google Voice, which used to be Grand Central before it was bought, is a one-number-service that allows users to have a single phone number to ring all of their phones—landline or cellular. It also allows users to protect their real number by giving out their Google Voice digits instead as well as send “free” text messages, since the service utilizes data.

Up until recently, third party developers could tap into the service, releasing their own apps. On Android or iOS, the demand for such solutions is quite low due to both platforms having official options for users. However, since Google shuns everything that is Windows Phone, there is no official Google Voice app for Microsoft’s OS. As a result, developers have created solutions, including the top-rated MetroTalk app to fill in the gap.

But last week, Nikhyl Singhal, who is product manager in the Google+ team, commented on the future status of the service:

“Finally, we want to make Google Voice as secure as possible. There are a few third-party applications that provide calling and SMS services by making unauthorized use of Google Voice. These apps violate our Terms of Service and pose a threat to your security, so we’re notifying these app developers that they must stop making unauthorized use of Google Voice to run their services and transition users by May 15, 2014.”

As such, the developer behind MetroTalk has posted a response, noting that as a result of Google’s new change of heart, MetroTalk will be discontinued next year:

“We are sad to announce that after a request by Google, MetroTalk will be removed from the Windows Phone store on May 1, 2014. We apologize to all our users for this but the decision is beyond our control, and in fact affects all third-party Google Voice apps. The good news is that the app will remain available and fully functional for 6 more months, and you can expect bug fix updates during that time. A huge thank you to all of our users for making us one of the top downloaded and highest rated apps of the Windows Phone store. Once again, we truly apologize to everyone affected by this.”

Indeed, it is sad to see MetroTalk get the axe at Google’s request. Even more so since we don’t know if Google will release their own solution for Windows Phone users. If Google does not, then they are once again royally screwing those on Windows Phone by denying the use of their service.

A few of us here at Mobile Nations use Google Voice due to having many smartphones on different carriers. Having “one number” to call all our phones, regardless of which we take with us, is a huge benefit to Google’s service. Without it, things will be quite difficult.

Will Google step up and finally release apps for their services on Windows Phone? There’s no sign that they will, but we’ll wait and see.

Source: MetroTalk

Daniel Rubino is the Executive Editor of Windows Central, head reviewer, podcast co-host, and analyst. He has been covering Microsoft here since 2007, back when this site was called WMExperts (and later Windows Phone Central). His interests include Windows, Microsoft Surface, laptops, next-gen computing, and arguing with people on the internet.

288 Comments
  • Screw scroogle
  • ^ THIS
  • This really is a shame. Google used to be the cool service company. Not so much anymore.
  • Google used to accuss Microsoft of its 'close-ness'...Now Google is repeating what MS did while MS is adopting open standard.
  • I know, right?
  • "Open"
  • The only thing I use google for is ytube. If they cut that too, I can see microsoft cutting skype and other products for android and that will definitely not be good for end user.
  • Nope, Microsoft wont cut anything. Scared with their 1990s suits and too much money to lose by blocking Skype. If anything it will give extra features to others first than WP.
  • Losing Skype customer is a real reasomn they might not do this, but the 1990 suit would not be a reason. First, they don't have a monopoly on cell phones. Second, they would be responding to actions of a competiton. Actually, Google should pay attention to the 1990's lawsuit. They are a near monopoly and the DOJ has already been investigating them on various issues.
  • Microsoft and apple already file a lawsuit against android saying that violating patents, so here we are ...lets see wat happens in nuclear war.....haha
  • Exactly what I don't understand. Can't blame Google - they are trying to crush WP. Get rid of the weaker competition. So why the fuck doesn't MS go after them! These are predatory acts. They are trying to eliminate competition. Their reach on the internet and tech is huge and they are leveraging that in the way ATT, MS, Standard Oil and others have. All of these were broken or fined.
  • It seems to be universally true that Microsoft can't get away with anything. If they miss or do something wrong the world goes after them, but if any other company do nasty stuff then nothing happens because they are not Microsoft.
  • Google doesn't have 99% of the market like Windows in the nineties - except for search maybe, but that is available on Windows Phone.
  • I think you are missing the point, all of googles moves have been to stragically disadvantage Windows Phone (clearly evident by the youtube saga), no doubt these will be coming quicker and quicker as WP share continues to rise as shown by the latest Kantar figures. Although there have been some dips, but that is given as the mobile world is not static it is extremely volatile.
  • Of course they are, but I just don't really see why Google would want to dedicate resources to an OS that could threaten Android's position. It sucks for the users, but you gott think from the business position.
  • 4% vs 80% - you do the math of how that is threatening at all? This is Google being a real Google. "Do no evil" my ass.
  • Well they still see its potential I guess. But even then you're fighting a losing fight because WP isn't big enough for Google to make proper apps. Google is a company, that's my point - they don't want to do things that would threaten them.   And the first post was just a reply saying that Google not is a singluar entity like the person I replied to made it out to be.
  • They wouldn't. Microsoft wanted to crush chrome and the other browsers as well so they could use IE as the portal to the internet. Companies act in their self interest. When a company has to much power in a market and starts using that power to undercut competition in other markets, thats when the government needs to step in an smack the company upside the head and say no.
  • Google doesn't owe Windows Phone its apps.
  • no - it owes those that use it's services those apps.  It is obligated to provide me with a means to access my information in any way I choose.  Be it WP8, IOS, IE, WINXP, Chrome.  This is why standards are so important and why Google wants to control all of the standards.  They are clearly a monopoly and as such needs to be regulated. 
  • I'm half with you -- Google should look out for its customers, and that's why it should care about apps on other platforms, if that would help its customers. However, there is no reason for the government to get involved. If Google is screwing enough of its users, they will leave Google for friendlier pastures. One of the reasons MS is still suffering market resentment now is because of their business practices over a decade ago. Google may well be setting itself up for a similar long period of market resentment. Government involvement will only screw things up and unfairly choose favorites. Leave it up to us, the users, and the free market. Having said that, note that another reason Google sucks is because users are not their customers. Advertisers are their customers. From that perspective, what they are doing is good for their customers -- don't let ad viewers leave the Google ecosystem, or their advertisers will reach fewer eyeballs. That's all fine and good for them, but it's one more reason why I won't use any Google products (if I can help it, I admit I still use YouTube) and I urge others to avoid them like the plague. But that's not the same as wanting the heavy hand of government to shove itself up the market's ass and start causing much bigger problems.
  • yet they have their heads so far up apple's rear... let's just face the facts. they are doing anything in their power to stop windows phone
  • you are replying to a comment from like five years ago gosh
  • Actually, it's 5 months...
  • Microsoft had about 90%. Google, in the form of Android has over 80% of the cellphone market, around 70% of the search market, and youtube probably has over 80% of the video hosting market. Plus Google gives away products to undercut their competition and making money on the back end through advertising. Google is way more dangerous than Microsoft ever was.
  • I haven't really seen Google do many horrible things other than not make apps for Windows Phone and locking down APIs (you know, just like MS did with Skype)
  • Google was sued a few years ago in Europe for pricing their maps service below cost in an attempt to defeat the competition.
  • They wouldn't enhance google maps on the iPhone to include turn by turn directions forcing apple to create it's own map system. Once apple maps came out Google updated maps to include turn by turn. The do things like that pretty regularly.
  • WP has the umbrella and force of Microsoft protecting it... It will continue to grow until MS says otherwise. So eventually Google will be forced to develop for it otherwise they will look like the bad guys in everyone's eyes.
  • Already MS and apple filed a lawsuit against google check out
  • Although I would understand MS reasons for that, I hope they don't go that low. However, if they do that and say you bring your apps to WP, then we will bring our apps back ... I would be okay with that.
  • I don't like Google... Well, YouTube is Awsome❕❗❕❗.. But, Google Sux...
  • NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Rudy can probably make it. :P
  • +6
  • +1520
  • He probably could but it would work until the cut off date as indicated the article as the shakedown is for all third party apps.
  • After that, one could always reverse-engineer the service and build an app, like they did with the Google+ app.
  • Scroogled!
  • Every time I see Google in an article, I know that its never going to be good. Even when the Youtube app comes out, I'll see the cover picture and immediately get mad at Google lol
  • So lame
  • Google = bag of dicks
  • bag of tiny dicks.
  • bag of nano dicks!
  • bag of pussies
  • Bag of tight pussies
  • Assuming you're a dude, wouldn't that be a *good* thing? 
  • Google is just an old bag.. Period. With tits up to it's knees.
  • Then they can flip it to the back and wear bra like a camel!
  • Good thread
  • Thatnka for ruining it haha
  • C-C-C-C-Combo breaker
  • Google = shit heads
  • That was hilarious!
  • Google = big titties with no nipples.
  • Oooo he said google ain't got no nipples!!!
  • Sigh. Looks like I need to consider whether I even need an alternative.
  • Yep
  • Then use Skype. Google is the devil.
  • Skype is not a viable alternative to Google Voice.
  • If you have a skype in number,then does that not work the same or similar? Microsoft needs to step up and offer a competitive alternate service to Google voice!
  • Yeah, I haven't used Google Voice but to be fair Skype In sounds like a pretty similar solution. I have it and all my Skype devices ring at once when someone calls the number; first device to answer it gets the call.
  • No. Not at all. In any way.
  • Skype doesn't let all your phones, landline or cellular, ring at once. And yes, MS does but that would take too long.
  • "For your security" is the new "think of the children" - in the majority of cases, a lame excuse.
  • That's just sad. Luckily I have unlimited texting so I seldom use the service anymore. Any word on devices like obi1xo that use GVoice as a home phone solution?
  • Yep, that will be broken too. Obihai posted on their site about it. http://blog.obihai.com/2013/10/important-message-about-google-voice.html
  • Fawewwwk
  • now that sucks...
  • You know who possess a threat to my security......Google that's who!
  • It's funny how everyone at google is terified of Windows Phone to such an extreme. Let those little pricks run scared we don't need them anyway. And I hope the Rockstar Alience destroys Android through patent litigation and puts an end to Google screwing over not just consumers but patent holders as well.  
  • ^^This
  • This. So hard
  • I don't think google is terrified of windows phone, not when android has like 80% of world wide market share. No, this is them just being pure petty and kicking Microsoft whenever they get the chance.
  • Marketshare comes and goes, just because they have 80% now does not mean that can't all change in a few years if Microsoft plays its cards right.  
  • Actually they are, because Windows Phone is getting new smartphones owners to switch to Microsoft's operating system, which also have very cheap handsets. What good is that to Google if Windows Phone is grabbing all the new people? By blocking Google products, they are 'trying' to grab consumers to buy their Android products. We've seen it with Instagram not being on the OS and review sites like CNET giving a low rating simply because Instagram isn't there. If you tell a brand new customer "oh, there's no google maps, no google voice, no gmail, no youtube", they will go to Android because they're too stubborn or don't know anything about Windows Phone.
  • Its not market share, its cold war, apple and MS jointly filed a law suit for banning android
  • Because every single engineer at Google wanted this.
  • The most CLOSED open source ever.
  • ^This
  • Google is open....right. They are skynet!!!
  • Just watched that movie last night!
  • Google, you can kiss my BING.
  • Skype is your better alternative here, anyway. Google...I used to love your company. But your business practices in lieu of this are just unreasonable, petty, and bullish. I don't support bullying!
  • I agree. I used to think that Google was the cool alternative to Apple. Not so much anymore. I'm glad I made the switch. :)
  • Will it work in IE on the phone?
  • If it works now, I don't see why it wouldn't after this since you're directly connecting to their servers via the internet. I doubt they'd be able to block Internet Explorer specifically, especially since that would probably prevent the desktop version from accessing them as well (that's just a guess since I've heard that the two versions of the program are pretty similar).
  • They can detect mobile vs desktop, so they could block it if they wanted like they downgraded Google Maps on WP earlier this year.
  • Wtf man...
  • Who cares ???
  • I care.
  • Daniel...  I don't use Google Voice, or anything Google besides YouTube videos accessed via links from sites like WPCentral.  However, it would be an interesting article comparing Google Voice to Skype.  What does Google Voice have that Skype doesn't?  Since Skype is like Netflix, in that it can be found on almost every platform and form factor (albeit with varying degrees of functionality), why wouldn't Skype be the better alternative?  Whatever the perceived gaps, I hope they can fill those gaps to give people a better choice than Google Voice.
  • I care, and I cannot believe how google is closing all windows/phone doors and it is so "open" with iOS. The excuse for market share is starting to expire, so what are they going to say?
  • Wouldn't Skype work as an alternative?
  • I can't see why not. You can even get a Skype #, but it cost about $5 a month I think. Skype to Skype is still free though...
  • Microsoft should make a skype number free and use the google voice shut down on WP as a great marketing opportunity for both Skype and WP.    
  • This is a great marketing opportunity for MS. I hope they take it. They seem to be afraid of doing anything but low-profile web campaigns... unless they're comparing to Apple. Google is a far more despicable and dangerous adversary than Apple -- Apple just wants to make the products it wants and then hopes that lots of people will want to use them. Google is actively trying to cause problems for its users if they happen to also be Windows users in the hope that they will side with Google and ditch MS altogether.
  • Well I ditched Google alltogether; hope others do the same and then we can laught how that brilliant strategy of alienating users worked out for them in five years time.  
  • No.
  • They need people to use their services to get paid. That's why they are so quick to buddy up to apple. But apple has been trying to eliminate the need for the users to rely on google services. That's (one reason) why apple maps was so bad. They rushed it.
  • If Microsoft offers the free number to WP users, and others things exclusively to his platform users they can get a big advantage of this! And more people can migrates to WP!
  • Offering WP users a free Skype number would be awesome. I think it costs me $60/year right now. I use it specifically to forward numbers. Minutes still would cost so the bean counters would be happy.
  • Google, why do you have to be so darned stupid?
  • Skype
  • Skype!
  • Knew this was coming. I used to use metroTalk on wp7...
  • Anti trust and anti competition, where's the lawsuits?
  • Not to mention Tax evasion in the UK!!
  • I don't know much about the law in this regard, but I have been wondering the same things for a while too.
  • I guess you can't stop them making their API private again. It's not really anti-competitive because they also block any third-party apps on Android, iOS and Desktop.
  • The difference is though that Google Voice has official clients for Android, iOS and Desktop but Windows Phone doesn't!!
  • Oh yes, I completely agree there. I'm just commenting on whether it could be considered anti-competitive. In this case we simply see lack of support for a smaller platform, rather than outright blocking one platform specifically.
  • Right. Google is terrible. I boycott as many of their features as I can (basically everything except YouTube and the Terrain topographic view on Google Maps -- as far as I know, Bing doesn't yet support a contour lines view for altitudes), but that's not the same as saying I want various world governments to start meddling. They'll just be picking one business to win over another, and that's far worse than anything Google is doing.
  • What is google voice anyway :) ? ... I even stopped posting on youtube, 'cuz they forced me to sign up for google+ service.
  • Fuck u google!!!!
  • I will be google free by that time... I suggest everyone do the same. I only have Gmail for all the non important emails, but since its non important I shall delete it.
  • Do it now... ;-)
  • I'm almost completely Google free, just need to transfer some services from Gmail to my Outlook.com address and then it's bye bye Google!!
  • Well, I got rid of my Gmail address a while ago. And now that Bing is finally out of beta in my country, it will hopefully become better. Regarding Google voice - I've never heard of it (not even sure what you can do with it), so there will be nothing to be missed for me.
  • I couldn't edit my first post but I'm now google free, just transferred the last of my accounts from my gmail address!!
  • Funny how opposite poles have similar thoughts .-. From Microsoft I only have Hotmail for all the non important emails and that godamn Skype because friends.... but once I can get rid of it I will delete my Hotmail in a second as well .-.
  • Every time I hear about Google, it gets worse and worse.  I used to like them but now I hate them.   F-U Google a bazillionjillion times    
  • ^^ So much for"transparency.
  • Just don't mention Google on WPCentral any longer. I don't use Google for anything. Don't need them.
  • Scrogle no its screwgoogle!!! I have been discontinuing my use of google and will be google free by year end!
  • Me too, in fact, I've switched all of my browsers to run Bing. The final straw for me was when they started to filter out anything to do with knives and guns from shopping searches. (some of my other hobbies include target shooting and knife collecting).
  • Google=douche bag
  • Anyone know if this will block DIY PBX servers
  • Goddamnit!!!!! The one service without a comparable alternative!  Now what the hell are we supposed to do? I'm sure as hell not switching to an Android phone now!    
  • Why is Skype not a viable alternative?
  • Skype is a video-calling/VoIP service. GV is a visual-voicemail, phone call management system.   They're not even the same type of service, apples to oranges.
  • I thought that as well, Euell, until recently. Skype does have a lot more features now, though I'm not sure it's a direct alternative to every feature of Google Voice. Here: http://www.skype.com/en/features/
  • Why not just not usw it anymore? I've never even heard of google voice ... What's so special about it that it will be missed do much?
  • Go after carriers, like at&t for lying about "unlimited" data plans!
  • Can't miss what you never had.
  • Looks like a new market for someone to create this service without discrimination to platform...
  • Hm ... Am I the only one who has never heard of that Service?
  • Yes.
  • lol
  • What's so funny about it? It was a serious question, as reading this article actually introduced me to the fact that this service exists. M
    Meanwhile, I've ecen asked some friends, and none of them has heard about it. (I'm in Switzerland btw).
    I wonder if Google voice is one of those services that is only widespread in certain areas.
  • Sorry I by default thought you are from US. You are right this service is basically popular in US thn anywhere else.
  • No worries, thanks for your feedback.
    Just saw my comment is full of typos. I shouldn't comment before my first coffee. Sigh.
  • You know what Microsoft can do? ... It can come out with a similar service and make it available in places beyond just the US, e.g. Canada, UK, Australia, South Africa, India, Mexico, France, Germany, etc!
  • Google is in the drivers seat and they know it. But you know, what comes around goes around. You play dirty and eventually you get yours. Too bad there isn't some alternative for WP8 google voice users... Hang in there WP8ers!!
  • I can live just fine without that Voice thingy. I have the feeling Skype just does exactly the same, although not for free. I've a Skype number and all my devices are ringing as soon as somebody calls that number and SMS are also possible as well as voicemailbox - So screw google. I would only wish there would be a similar popular online video service like Youtube and I could get rid of Google all together. Sadly Vimeo is only used by people putting up portfolio stuff, no shows or live feeds on that platform, but so much better video quality than YT. :-/
  • What Microsoft can do with Skype is offer same service and free SMS to WP users, so then nobody gonna miss Google voice!
  • +521:)
  • Try https://vimeo.com/ as an alternatives The YouTube music awards did not do so well.  Only 220,000 viewers.  It was a big Google flop!   Skype to Skype is free.  You only pay if you need the premium features or want to call Cell Phones or Landlines directly. If you simply want to call friends, you can do so via WiFi and Skype all for free.  I call my family in Italy all the type with Skype via broadband data and it costs me nothing except my broadband connection.
  • Isn't Daily Motion just about the only real YT alternative?
  • If Bing start to be more useful out of USA (specific Dominican Republic), then I can say bye bye to google's services forever!
  • Yeah, Bing is somewhat lacking in that department, when you press the search key you get only a static search page however if you change your browsing and search region to US, you get a panaroma view, news, deals, access to movie listings etc.
  • I already did it, but useless without local search, plus less results like google here!
  • This can't be top secret technology. Why doesn't Microsoft just flip google the bird on this and introduce their own version?
  • There probably isn't real concrete proof that such a thing would benefit them. There are no numbers that suggest it anyway. A few people online ranting doesn't equate to profit. If what GV offers were built into Skype that would make damn good sense though.
  • Rockstar, going after Google
  • No I have given up. I just don't want to have anything to do with Google.
  • i never used it before ... i won't miss a thing
  • Disclaimer: I own a Nokia 920 and greatly enjoy WP8. Now that that is out of the way, I feel like a lot of people are being disengenuous in this particular instance. Google is cracking down on all thrid party google voice apps, not just the ones on windows phone.
  • The difference is Google builds first party apps for IOS and Android. There is zero first party support for WP8 thus the third party apps are necessary.
  • Sounds like you need more context.
  • Seeing google do stuff like this always makes me laugh at them. No matter what they or anybody else thinks, if it weren't for MS, and the number of PC users out there google wouldn't even exist. They have grown to what they are today by being a tech 'remora' attaching itself onto the side of a great white shark called Microsoft. Bunch'a assholes.
  • Am I the only one thinking what might happen next to those third-party YouTube apps?
  • @Daniel Rubino, How is Skype not a good alternative? - Skype to Skype calls
    - Calls to mobiles and landlines
    - Group calls
    - Skype Number
    - Forward calls
    - Caller ID
    - Instant messaging
    - Send texts (SMS)
    - Voice Mail
    - Available on just about any platform I have been using Skype since before it was purchased by Microsoft and I never once thought about using Google Voice. I think Microsoft should have commercials showing all the things you can do with Skype.  I think the whole product is under promoted.  This would be a great FU to google
     
  • Price.  GV is free.
  • Skype is free and available worldwide, you only pay for premium features and skype calls to mobiles and landlines!!
  • With GV, calls use whatever minutes you have on your cell plan or none if you call from your computer using Gmail voice chat, so there is no premium cost. They're not the same kinds of services.
  • @Tjarren, Fair enough, but you are paying.  If they are taking minutes or you are paying $2.99/month you are paying.  The $2.99/month gives you unlimited minutes in the USA or Canada + plus you can do voice chat. If you look at it, you get much more with Skype for $3/month While I understand that with GV it is an on demand thing, you are still paying but only as much as you use. However, if you consider how much your minutes cost you, and you are doing enough calling via GV, Skype will put you ahead.  If it is just once and while type of thing, you may be right, GV could be better. My family is sprawled across the USA so I find value in Skype and I use it for work too since we have so many employees off shore. IMHO, the services are the same but have different payment models  
  • Ok, after spending more time on Skype's site there is NO WAY I can recreate the value of GV there.  And, for the record, this is not a slight to Skype at all.  I know it's a great service, but this is really comparing apples ot oranges. Let me explain:  no matter what, I cannot receive or send text messages with Skype without paying a per-text rate.  That's a deal breaker right there.  If I were to sign up for a Premium account ($10 a month for me), I still wouldn't get that.  Plus I would still have to pay for voice on my cell phone plan.  So if I dropped GV and went with Skype, I would have to get a texting plan added to my service (another $10-20/m) and need to sign up for Premium ($10/m or $60/y) just to get the same services I currently experience.  And I would have to get yet another number and people would have to keep up with both to contact me by phone or text.  And, to be honest, it's not even that cut and dried. Skype and GV are not attempting to do the same thing, thus they are not interchangeable.  I just spent another half hour on Skype's site to reiterate something that I already knew.
  • Which, as I was just so subtly reminded today as we Windows Phone Google, if you're not the one paying for a product, you're not the customer.   That said, one of the stumbling blocks why I personally haven't gone with Skype is that I haven't wanted to change my phone number, and Skype, while they can port numbers out, can't port numbers in.
  • I know you guys want to shoehorn Skype being viable, but the two services are used differently. The draw with GV is having a free phone number and the ability to have incoming calls to that number forward to one or many other phones (round robin). Other things like caller block, spam, and friend groups are there too. I know I'm missing a few other notable features.
  • Skype has all the features you listed, what else are you missing?  
  • Skype isn't free with all those features, correct? It's also missing transcribed e-mails on the web portal or it being e-mailed to you. Also, is there a skype.com website that gives you all that functionality in your browser?
  • You're missing one critical point that I made earlier though!!
  • This is just bad ...why is google behaving like this
  • No longer interested in any thing google any more, I could understand YouTube users which I am not, never used their services email,calendar and so on.
    Good By google.
  • Google is a joke - a BAD one, at that.
  • I think the best alternative right now is ICQ, i didn't know the app support gtalk and fb chat as well. Working nicely including notifications and file sharing
  • Ha, I didnt even know if ICQ still exists. The last time I used their service was like more than a decade ago. Reminds me of the geocities & mIRC era :)
  • This doesn't affect me in the slightest, as Skype fills all my needs.
    Furthermore, I only have a google account for University, as it's used for proof of Identification for me to get discounted products from Microsoft etc.
  • Freak google let them cut off everything the more we use our services the more richer we grow with them same with google but Microsoft is not stupid enough to cut off services so we grow more but MS improve this shit a more often rather then rushing to make apps for the iPad make our windows phone and windows 8 apps and OS overhauled that store needs way more improvements like wtf they doing
  • I already submitted by refund request for the $1.99 I paid for the ad-free version. Oh well, it was a decent app while it lasted. Windows Phone 8 Support says I should receive my refund within 72hrs.
  • I'm not asking for a refund. This isn't the dev fault and he worked hard to create a great functional app. I'm letting him keep it cause he greatly deserved it. Not gonna penalize him for Google.
  • True talk aitt -- I salute you.
  • This is the exact reason why I've stopped buying 3rd party apps -- I just feel sorry for the developers who are trying to earn a second income in there spare time.
  • Same here not going for refund...being developer myself I don't see devs fault here....
  • What a major blow for me personally. I use GV as my one stop number for voice mail and not give my number out to people like on Craiglist. Its been very useful for communication and having a one source number for. All my voice mail get sent to vmail and accessed thru Metro Talk. This wouldn't even be an issue if they developed for WP. Despite the harsh hate for Google on here I personally still rely on their services. I hope it doesn't force me back to android. Fuuuuu may just have to look into other resources.
  • At this point, if you're still using Google services, you deserve to get Scroogled. This was an obvious next step.
  • I agree. Its clear how big of an asshole Google really is being with WP and they will do anything to stunt its growth and shun its users. If you still want to deal with those cunt's services, then you really need to get an Android. Its simple as that. Just know that you are being bullied and abandoning what you want (presumably a WP) to go to Android is exactly what the choads want you to do.
  • But yet people talk about MS should closed down their system and do the same? Pretty stupid if you ask me. I like google services. Shouldn't be forced to have to need an Android. I mean this comment is pretty ignorant because iPhones users do not require an Android phone to want to use Google services.
  • How is it ignorant, Google create apps for their services on iOS but they don't for Windows Phone!!
  • No, voting with your wallet is the best way to send a message and influence companies. In Google's case, because they don't sell directly to users, all they want is your personal data and eyballs so they can sell them to their advertisers. Therefore, we (as users) have far less influence with Google, than with Apple or MS. Further, because Google is doing this mainly to hurt and slow adoption of Windows Phone, the only recourse can be against Google. There is nothing MS or the third party app-developer can do to prevent this. The only logical option if you don't want this to happen (even if you like Google overall) is to stop using Google services until Google relents and allows support on Windows Phone.
  • So tired of goggles b.s.
  • Seriously, had enough of Google now, I have managed to switch pretty much everything to some other service, just need a good alternative to Picasa now.
  • SkyDrive...? Or do you mean the desktop client?
  • Oh Google! But Microsoft has been more friendly lately making office and inenote available for other platforms. Surely Google can be more courteous?
  • This is getting beyond old. I love the wp8 operating system but I also use quite a few google services and am not interested in having an android phone. Google is becoming more and more irritating with each passing day.
  • You know, Google Voice was the one thing I was worried about in my plan to jump from Android on Verizon to WP on AT&T.  Then I realized something.  The only reason I even use the service is for the free texting because I'm too cheap to go above the 250 texts plan for $5 that I have on Verizon and for the free visual voicemail (of which their translations to text suck royally) because again Verizon charges you for that.  With AT&T I'll have unlimited texting due to their new plans that come with unlimited text & voice anyway and AT&T also includes visual voicemail as part of the plan if I remember correctly.     The only thing I'd be left without is to have that unified number for everyone to call (which I've never really given out anyway except for craiglist ads because it IS easy to perma-block numbers with it).  Even then I'm not so sure you can't still use the number for people to call you on because you can give it your home phone, why not a cell?  Home phone you just have to enter some little code when it calls the number to verify it when you add it.  I'm assuming it should work the same on a cell without a google voice app.
  • You really make Verizon sound awful ...
  • Thought I was slick moving from t-mob. to at&t. But lost ability to send attachments by SMS, and want a google alt. app to get what I had w/ tmob. Appologies to jump!
  • Microsoft should step up and offer this functionality.  Right now I pay two separate fees for a Skype subscription and a Skype number, yet Skype still charges an additional per-message fee for SMS.  Meanwhile I pay Google nothing and get unlimited SMS for free!
  • Won't get these + guys to go along with the right thing, just f google this & google sucks that!
  • I won't blame Google this time though I really need Google Voice as this is my daily driver. First only we in US are most affected by this. Second, MS has Skype that can be way better solution then GV IF only MS can step up their game.
    Do following and stop being so greedy....
    Below we already have, only needs to be free or enhanced...
    1) Make Skype Number free
    2) Make Skype SMS free
    3) Skype voicemail with visual VM
    4) Ring and allow forward to multiple phones
    5) Provide a good web interface to manage all this
    6) Integrate all this deep in the WP, Win8
    MS your turn and no need to fight just tell us what should we expect from you.
  • Agree, but that IS a lot of stuff there ...
  • Yeah, and I just want Skype and MS to think that they are one company. I have no problem paying Skype....infect I have Skype US $30 and Skype Number $30.
    Sorry, I just realized that I am using both of these Skype paid features free through Bing Rewards :)
  • Oh reeeeeally.  Enlighten me, please, on how Bing Rewards gets you free Skype usage.  I use Bing a ton and have used a lot of rewards for Amazon and XBL gift cards.
  • There is Skype credits that you can use for bing points. You get 60 ($1.46) min for I think 90 bing points but over the year you can definitly accumalte enough for Skype US and Number. http://www.bing.com/rewards/redeem/000100000015?meru=%252f  
  • I agree, I recently signed up for Skype to speak with some colleagues from overseas and was sort of apalled at the lack of features it offers versus Google Voice even though it has been around for a long time.    
  • All with option to opt in and I'm in.
  • How is this different from Microsoft killing all third-party Skype applications starting in December?
  • Microsoft has first party Skype on ALL platforms. Google doesn't have ANY support on WP and hence third party are essential! Third party Skype clients are useless when Skype itself is so much better than even on WP itself!
  • I suppose you have proof?
  • You can replace metrotalk by IM+, and select google talk. You can also add skype, yahoo, facebook and more to IM+.
  • Skype isn't free with all those features, correct? It's also missing transcribed e-mails on the web portal or it being e-mailed to you. Yes, today you can. But can you come May 2014?
  • Try Voxofon...Available on all platforms. It's the best alternative to GV if not better... If you use GV for international calling then Voxofon is the best http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/cheap-international-calls-sm...  
  • And you used to be able to use a SIP adapter (or software) to connect directly into google voice for VOIP service, thus not requiring another phone number somewhere else, until google bought and integrated Gizmo5.  that was the end of that great feature.  now you have to subscribe to someone elses service just to use google voice.  how uselessis that.  
  • They (Google Hangouts) will not be missed. I heart skype. At-least microsoft has a decent product that competes in the same space. Youtube on the other hand, is still a negative for us WP folks. If only Microsoft would buy Vimeo. Its the only site that is of higher quality and offers a better experience than Youtube that I can think of.
  • G.P. then we could have leverage when dealing with these pirraha. We'd see how quickly they'd take third party app to replace viveo.
  • Just deleted my google+ and YouTube accounts. Will next delete my Gmail once I transfer accounts over, so far just did it for bank, newegg, and some other sites. Screw you google.
  • Gotta love Google, its not done, till it won't work on Windows Phone!
  • That's the smell of fear.   Apple has taken decades to nurture their loyal customer base. While Apple is not necessarily winning any prizes overseas, the US is their primary market. They may lose 2-4% but I find it doubtul that they will ever dip below 19-20% market share.   But Google's base is a little more fluid and immature. The folks on Android came from feature phones or other platforms and may well move back. The eco system is not nearly as developed. They stand the chance to lose far more.   And here comes Windows Phone. Superior hardware in many cases, much fresher UI than iPhone and Android. And they are gaining customers from feature phones and other platforms to augment their die-hard loyal user base. Enterprise is coming on board, and what was just reported? Nokia is the 4th largest OEM in the US when just a few months ago the death knell was being rung for Nokia in the US. Many European markets showing double-digit growth year-on-year, and while Kit Kat is being released now, in a few weeks Windows Phone will have its third major update this year, and a refresh in the spring.   The 20% in Apple are going nowhere. It is the soft underbelly of Android that is the most vulnerable to an alternative OS. So do all you can to hobble the newer platform so you can say, "Yeah, but they don't have Google Voice, Maps, Mail, You Tube..."   What they forget is that Windows already has a strong foothold in enterprise and thus far no real competition to Office. As integration moves forward, Windows Phone is a much more stable platform and positioned to take an undisputed 3rd place and potentially become the second largest OS.
  • Who are you kidding? Unless ms can't sit down, there're not going to be content with two, but nice try though. How about the enemy of my enemy...
  • To quote you: "Who are you kidding?"   We've all seen this before. Nokia is an example. Blackberry another. Even Windows Mobile. The larger they become, the harder they will fall, and it is foolish to think Google won't suffer the same fate. Especially with their kill or be killed mentality and their childish taunts through cutting services to what they say is but a tiny slice of their user base.   Ask yourself, "Why does Google even bother?" If the derision of WP8.x is such that they think the platform is going nowhere, then why bother?   It isn't just that they aren't producing native apps for Windows 8 and Windows Phone. They are actively trying to screw with their long-term compatibility with these items. From the hurdles to mail, the YouTube debacle, now this, they are actively messing with Microsoft.   The sad thing is, they basically are not only screwing Microsoft (say what you might about how MS might deserve it). But they are actively giving users of their services, like me, the finger. They are grinding it into my eye, showing complete disdain for my choices. They obviously don't want my business.   It is petty in the short term and fool-hardy in the long term.
  • If you are a heavy user of Google services, Windows Phone isn't for you.  Google seems hell bent on not supporting WP in any way shape or form.  
  • Simple. Stop using Google services. Like right now. Google shmoogle.
  • Try Voxofon...Best alternative to Google voice for making International Calls and is available on all platforms. http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/cheap-international-calls-sm...  
  • Heard it sucks, no need with voice so good that ms sits on Skype as non alternative to itself. Slow old man network w/ new toy.
  • In between what Google has been doing with YouTube, in terms of the site itself; the Microsoft made application that they shunned so rambunctiously; and this recent uncovering that's now putting what could be (in my mind) another good Windows Phone application out of the market in the foreseeable future, I am seriously starting to bemoan Google and virtually every little thing they have to offer. The things that they are doing should be considered atrocious by everybody in the tech community, not just the Microsoft community. Now, I don't know about the next person but I'm thinking about ridding myself of any service I have with Google to show that as a consumer I'm not taking their shit anymore.
  • Let Obama take it (google) over and you can see your service freefall from you. WP needs to improve viable option (Skype). to compete! Blame ms, not google!
  • Look, I agree that if the government gets involved, we all lose. However, there is no rational way you can say that this is MS's fault. Google is actively (maybe understandably for protecting their advertising base) trying to hurt Windows Phone and scare even their own users away from it. MS is doing a good to keep Skype advancing rapidly and ever improving the integration with Windows Phone. It sounds like they could benefit from some changes to the Skype business model, but as others have pointed out, Skype really serves a different purpose from Google Voice. I would love to see MS add a direct competitor to Google Voice as a response to this move, but whether they do or not, MS is not the bad guy here. Not at all.
  • I agree with you, WebColin70.
  • Bye bye google! All of my family is moving to Windows Phone. If you don't want us, I don't want you...
  • Shame on Google Voice because they discriminate against ADA laws. We need voicemail to text.. Thank you!
  • While I agree that it would be nice to see Microsoft counter the removal of third party support for Google Voice with improvements to Skype, I think the most interesting line of the article actually comes from Google.   "...stop making unauthorized use of Google Voice to run their services and transition users by May 15, 2014."   I would ask google the following: transition users to what?  They're implying that third party app developers should encourage users to move to the official app.  Hold Google and their product manager accountable to this statement and require them to provide the app to which we can transition.  How can we transition (even with the best of intentions) if we're not being left an option?  As it's currently stated, no WP developers can actually comply completely with the request as they have no way of transitioning their users to the official app.   I realize this is precisely what google is avoiding.  I'm just pointing out that, at least for WP, their request is nonsensical and that, phrased as it is, there should be some way to hold them accountable for providing a means of transition.
  • They mean transition users to a new voip back end that's not Google Voice.
  • Should of known. Only Google service that I really use and now it will be shut down for me. On the bright side, no more need for Google!
  • I like Google, and Android, and I have no crusade against the folks at Mountain View (what I hate about Google is the same I hate about Microsoft, so...) And I think they're right in wanting to protect the security of their services...HOWEVER...if "security" was a real reason for this, then they should start by taking a severe look at Android's marketplace. Clean it up, implement an efficient app scanning system to prevent malware and alikes. THEN you can do these sorts of things. Though honestly...come 2014, if everything goes as some wish it goes, Google will probably not have to worry about any competition from WP at all. Maybe then they'll bring their apps for those still on WP to make money out of that.
  • I don't even use Google Talk, but I must say, this is ridiculous. Microsoft doesn't even have a competing service, hell, they even have Google Voice integration on Outlook!!! Windows Phone and Android are competitors, Bing and Google Search are competitors. However, just because they're competing in that field. Doesn't mean Google has to screw over all their loyal Google Voice users. Ridiculous, just ridiculous. There are more than likely some people whose only Microsoft product is Windows Phone, and use Google for everything else. Now because Google wants to throw a hissy fit due to Windows Phone slowly rising through the rank, they do nothing but hurt their loyal customers. I was actually looking into Google Voice, but with this news, guess not... EDIT: Oh yeah, it just occurred to me that Microsoft has Skype, so I guess they are competing. Still, my point stands: Google is hurting loyal users just because they don't like Windows Phone and Windows 8. They gain nothing from it other than screwing over those trying to use Google products and services.
  • This is terribly ironic situation for me. Loss of Google Voice functionality will cost me more money and a lot of hassle.  It really is the only Google service that I've bought in completely to and saw the benefits of.  I've committed to a GV number and have basically told all my friends and relatives around the country that this is my forever number.  There is no other service out there that can replace it properly (and no, for the hundredth time, Skype ISN'T the same).  Really a shame, unless Google decides to make a fully featured official GV app.  I'm sure it won't be as fantastic as Metrotalk has been, but at least it'd be better than nothing.  Here's to hoping. So, out of frustration, I should turn my back on Google completely, right?  Well Thursday I get Google Fiber activated in my home.  I'm extremely excited about and it will be a HUGE improvement on what I have now (Clear). So yes, the love/hate relationship with Google is currently at an all time high in my life.  Such an abusive relationship ...
  • Buy Skype, cheapskate, and change your #! And oh yeah, stop crying about something you don't pay for.
  • Lame @$$ google, what's next?? Blocking the use of gmail on windows phone???? I better save my contacts on my live e-mail
  • Google hate WP, because they wont outlook biger than gmail 'spy/ads', they wont IE biger than boring chrome, they wont bing biger than google 'spam' search, n defenatly they wont wp bigger than superlagdroid... Hahaha..
  • Frankly speaking, I don't care if Google is evil or lame, nor do I pity MS with its Windows Phone. As a consumer, if Windows Phone continue to get so much restrictions when using it, I will go back to Android for sure.... With Android improving leaps and bounds, WP is really having hard time catching up, even without such tactics from Google.
  • Samsung wont be using Android soon, they're developing their own OS.
  • I prefer Nexus phones than TouchWiz. And if their new OS can be a threat to Android, then MS may need to be pull up their socks fast.
  • I wouldn't say "leaps and bounds"...
  • When compared to Windows Phone, which can't even have a proper and simple file management, it is leaps and bounds with the enclosed OS.
  • Windows Phone won't have a file manager for two reasons: 1. The sandboxing security model makes a file manager impossible to implement.
    2. It isn't Android!!
  • The problem for Google is that Samsung wont be using Android for much longer, as they develop Tizen. They wouldn't be developing Tizen if they had no strategy behind it to use it as a platform. Without Samsung, Android is nothing. So what will Google do then?
  • Without Samsung, Android is nothing, but then without android, samsung is also nothing. and google can start mass producing nexus phones and still retain most of the marketshare. and Samsung brought bada based wave series and it failed I dont see Samsung moving over to tizen completely, they will probably use it for low end or some other Niche category, nobody leaves neglects their bread & butter.
  • Google voice sux anyway. I used to use it when I had a pos android phone. I tried metrotalk and it's great but I don't use it much anymore. Google = trash
  • Google = super lag n bad ui...
  • hahaha.... pity you.
  • He's right though, you do realise this is Windows Phone Central don't you? If you hate Windows Phone that much then don't bother spouting your hate here!!
  • Well, Google will sooner or later start making an app, given the double digit marketshare that WP is getting in some major markets. Youtube will come, too.
  • Guys,maybe I'm missing something. Follow me. I've been using Google Voice since its inception. First with iOS iCrap , now with Windows Phone. Google is just blocking the APIs for third party apps, the functionality is still there. You can still text and receive calls WITHOUT the app installed and this they can not block as it is inherent in the service. Your calls and texts are "forwarded" to your phone independent of the OS you are using. For example when I receive a text on my GV number I get it as a regular text on my phone and can reply normally so the end user just sees the GV number not my "real" cell phone. Now, you will lose the ability to initiate a call or text from that GV number without the app but you can still receive calls, texts, and reply. You would then have to use the website I guess to initiate calls and texts. It's not a deal breaker for me since I own a computer repair shop and it's just for that. 99% of the time the customer just calls me and if they text me at least once I can just reply indefinitely to that number showing my GV on their caller ID. If push came to shove , I can just call them from my cell or through the website. Not ideal, but still not the end of the world. I'M almost GOOGLE FREE except for GV. Sorry for the length of the post.
  • I've also seen some comments on Skype. I wish it were similar or a good replacement, but it's really a different service. Skype is great for what it is but it's not a GV replacement.
  • Should be though, or what good is it? Should be premium for video conferencing only.
  • Agree. Although Skype could add some of GV's features, I don't think MS would. Primarily because of the carriers fearing Skype will take some of their $ and especially if Skype gets more integrated into WP.
  • Interestingly, with more (at least in the US) carriers going to default unlimited voice and text plans, and with both Verizon and AT&T charging for data by the GB, moving to Skype is actually economically a better option for the carriers. In years past, permitting users to bypass voice minutes by using their data plans was against carrier interests, but that's no longer true.
  • Meanwhile, at Microsoft: Users warned that third-party Skype tools will stop working in December
  • Fuck you google. Eat a bag of dicks. One day you'll have no choice but to support the WP platform, and make the decision its best for your customers - just like Microsoft makes quality apps for Android and iOS. God damnit. I dont "hate" many things, but google is moving really close to making it on my short list... cilantro, long airplane trips, and Hitler. Google will be next. Fortunately the only google service I use is YouTube (for now), but still, fuck you.
  • Deat Microsoft, Block Skype for Windows Phone... Now we will start screwing them
  • For anyone that is interested, Line2 offers a similair service to GV.  The only thing is that they do not have a WP client.  However, they started a thread to guage interest. I would like to strongly urge WP GV users to add their voice to this thread and urge Line2 to make a WP client.  They even support porting GV numbers to the service. Perhaps the good folks here at WPCentral can do a better job at encouraging WP users to post on the Line2 thread than me posting the 240thish comment on this article.
  • ooops scroogle did it again
  • So cruel!!They blocked our Youtube..now,they want Metrotalk to stop operating?..That is so unfair.
  • Google is quick expanding into areas like google voice. The difference is that MS is trying to charge and google is not. The intent of google is to create an ecosystem that you don't want to get away with it. Why cann't MS give everyone a skype phone number without charging $5/month?
  • You pay Google, just differently: Google charges you by reselling your data to their paying costumers -- advertisers. For MS (and Apple), their customers are their users. Different priorities yielding very different user experiences. I shun Google for this reason.
  • I use "GoVoice". Its not the most stable app but it does the job. Have the creators of that app announced anything?
  • This sucks... I use Google Voice all the time as a pastor.. It is the number I give out to the congregation to contact me, my free way of staying in touch with youth and others in the church through text. A wonderful way to screen calls on my day off to determine if things are an emergency or not. The only thing it didn't have was a different ringtone to immediately notify me that it was a 'church' call... If Skype can offer a free number, then that'll be great for me... When the transition happens os probably when I will divest myself of all things google...
  • Fuck the Google. May all Gods make sure they impotent for the rest of thier life! And next life n next.
  • Can't we all just get along?
  • I'm all for dumping all things Google based on their anti-user practices like this (their customers are their advertisers, and they don't want to lose any advertising revenue with users turning to Windows Phone). I even had Google Voice a while ago, but dropped it before I became so strongly anti-Google, simply because it wasn't useful to me. It also seemed to increase latency on all my calls just enough that it made talking to people via Google Voice noticeably less pleasant that if they called the real phone directly. However, as a Skype user, am I correct that Skype mind-bogglingly only lets you play voice messages left to your Skype account on a PC? As far as I can tell, the Skype client on WP8 doesn't support playing even existing Skype voice mails. Nor can you call in to play them or get them via e-mail. You get a notice on Skype on your WP that you have a voice message and you can see who sent it, but to play it, you have to wait until you can get to a computer, launch the Skype application, then play the message... Or am I missing something? This seems especially bizarre, because we now have the ability to send video messages to other Skype users from our Windows Phones. So is that really right - we can send and receive video messages, but can't receive/play back voice messages? I'm hoping someone will tell me that I'm wrong and that you can get Skype voice messages on your Windows Phone. Even if there was just a way to have it e-mail them to me, that would be good enough.
  • I still say, "Pull Skype for Android."
  • I say block chrome on all desktops.  Even better, block Chrome from having 3rd party add ons run in that browser while on Windows boxes. Because we (Microsoft) want to make Windows as SECURE as possible.
     
  • *sigh* well guess I'll go back to the WebOS way. Bookmark the Google Voice website for calling out and forward texts to my phone's number.
  • So, this is a deal breaker for me....Skype only makes VoIP calls, Line2 is not free. I was using GVoice to make international calls from my smartphone, without using my data plan and draining my battery (http://voip.about.com/od/unifiedcommunications/f/HowGoogleVoiceWorks.htm ). Anyone knows a similar service?
  • The GVMate Phone Adapter and GVJackApp for magicJack don’t use XMPP signalling and will continue to work. Have my GVMate Phone Adapter plugged into an old unused Windows XP laptop and use it with a cordless phone with multiple handsets. Very happy with the built in caller name display and talking caller id features.
  • So, Metrotalk will be taken from the market. Does that mean it will stop working on my phone?
  • Yep. That is exactly what it means.
  • <p>ok. &nbsp;MetroTalk states the app will be pulled, but doesn&#39;t explicitely say it will stop working. &nbsp;</p>
  • Just wait.
  • "Will Google step up and finally release apps for their services on Windows Phone? There’s no sign that they will, but we’ll wait and see." How long do you plan to wait?  Seems to me they are trying to STARVE Windows phone out of existence and there is NO signs that is going to change. They are buying up every single developer and their apps and Microsoft doesn't seem to have the fire in the belly to challenge it.  Google has its arms around everything including Apple's Iphone. No app development from google comes without a fork to IOS. None.  Even apps that are on all 3 platforms never show the Windows Phone logo in its advertising. I asked one app developer and they tell me it was an oversight. Seriously?? Oversight?  More like over looked.  Thank god we have Rudy but with cash from google, these developers grab ankles for google with a quickness. Nest is the perfect example. Those devs are all wearing designer dresses and pumps right now.  We want to fight this battle but where in the "FILTH" is the leadership?
  • Im a little peeved. I just purchased MetroTalk for my 3 week old Lumia 925, only afterwards to be notified that it is going away on May 1st becuase of googles predatory BS. I've been a google fan boy, and owned many android devices since the beginning, but I am sick and tired of being held hostage to the google "eco-system." From this moment forward I will be removing all google products from all of my devices and computers. Google, go f**k yourselves, you pretentious, arrogant douchbags.
  • This is what happens when you put spreadsheet jockeys in charge.  Not only would I not but an Android again (had one for two years) but I may get an iPhone.  And that goes for the employees of MY company and my family.  The guy at Google must have the mind of a Chimpanzee.
  • Its googles service, they own it and windows is a competitor. They will never be friends. Lets put it this way, why doesnt microsoft allow android users to have a microsoft office app? Microsoft was using googles service (voice) in its office application. Instead of just banning microsoft they banned all third parties. Seroiusly do you expect google to provide services and features to their main competitor and just eat the cost? Why should google present services, software, and resources to microsoft, is microsoft expected to do that for google for free? Seriously people, argue that microsoft should provide office to android users then. Google voice is googles product for googles purposes, if microsoft wants to use it then maybe they should make windows services available to android users, they can start with office.
  • Office is available for android and ios!
  • This is the best google voice app on any platform and now it must be discontinued! I'm definitely not happy with google or Microsoft right now.
  • I took a look at Skype and that looks like it could be an expensive adventure to migrate their system and setup.