Nokia Lumia 1020 has its insides listed, showing all the magic inside

Will proCam come for the Lumia 620?

No.. Only 92x phones :(

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No.

Anyone know when independent reviews will start coming out?

Independent as in what? I'v  honestly gotten to the point where I have a very hard time with WP "reviews". Sure the articles on pro-WP sites may be skewed a bit, but they are typically way more honest about the devices/OS as a whole than the sites that are more inclined to support the other OS's.

I was amazed at how negative some supposedly impartial reviews of the 920 were on release. Unfortunately many of these tech sites have their noses so far up Apple's arse that I expect no different with the 1020. I fully expect to read endless ignorant reviews asking "why would you want a 41 megapixel camera?", while moaning about a lack of apps yet again.

You have sumed up the usual rhetoric that you would hear coming from those other tech columns. 

I think we'll see unanimously favorable reviews about the camera and its abilities, but you'll see reviewers say it's too expensive. Many reviewers these days like to play it safe and tell people what they want or expect to hear. It is safe to say they hate Windows Phone because no one will care. If they say they love Windows Phone they will be seen as stupid or crazy by the moronic masses. To this day when I tell people that Vista was a great OS they look at me like I'm nuts. When I ask them why they think it sucked they ALWAYS say it's because that's what they heard.

Nice review, i agree it is too expensive.

Yeah I know what you mean - unless of course we're the biased ones ;) I'd still like to see some review units out there in anyone's hands! I've got to say though, GDR3 really needs to come out soon- the limitations WP8 is putting on hardware isn't cool; the 1020 should have had a newer processor that could natively handle 41MP

very N9 like construction, almost identical!! the 1020 is much more similar to the N9 than the 920 in the construction sense!!

Yes they removed the curve in the back and took away the 'smile' at the bottom, even though i actually prefer a slight curve

Man I wish this had a 5' screen...even at 720p

+1020 Phablet ;)

This fall you will see larger screens on those new high end Lumias Elop mentioned during the press event.. He said they are due later this year, but we don't have any information on them yet.. Soon the "leaks" will start... Besides the camera these new high end device's are going to make the 1020 look out of date.. But we can expect a 1030 next July, or maybe Nokia will surprise us with a refresh sooner...

I just hope they don't stagger the devices. Like a high end Lumia without 41mp camera and then the next EOS without the features of the next 920

Yeah, I hope they get everything in line.. I think a current model 10xx device should have the best spec's, especially if it has a premium price.

They cant do an upgraded EOS while at the same time still be selling the original as their best cameraphone. Some carriers in Europe will be getting it in September/October, even hinting that a higher spec model is coming will kill those sales dead.
 
 
I think the 1020 is going to stay as is for a year while the new models will have upgraded specs with bits of the camera tech then in a years time the EOS2 will surface with even better camera tech plus all the other hardware upgrades.

You got that right. I expect EOSv2 is going to be very much like 920 -> 925 and will be released to the rest of the carrier who didn't get EOS.

EOSv2..❔.. You mean Variant❔.. Were talking about generation #2, which means totally new hardware..

A 5 foot screen?
5" not 5' :)

So the battery is indeed the reason why the camera is offset from the center of the circle on the back. Good to know, becase it was the only thing I didn't like about this phone.

LOLZ

Hater ? :-)

Speaking of the battery... Battery physical size, and capacity, doesn't seem to be Nokias strong point... Nokia really needs to work on slimming battery's down, and upping the mAh... This will make room for things like removable storage.. All premium camphones should have micro SD card slots.. IMO.

I think the first graphene batteries will come out of Nokia. They have been working with the stuff since 2005 and just got a $1B grant to advance the technology.

It would be great to also have removable batteries. How difficult is it for the user to replace the battery on these sealed phones?

Well you can remove the battery of "sealed" phones it just takes a half hour... not bad if you wan to replace the battery once or twice over the life of your phone. But yeah it is impossible if you want to switch out the battery daily for some reason.

Way off topic
Any news about gdr 2 and amber arrival ?

This is what I want to know.

I'm thinking August.. I'm pretty sure August is when it will be available, but its still carrier dependent so it may take some time to reach certain devices..

Roll out not in July ?? Ill be getting it end September -.-

i want to know if it uses another processor to do oversampling.

Qualcomm site specs: Nokia Lumia 1020 Featuring a Snapdragon S4 Plus Processor 1.5 GHz quad-core CPU Adreno 225 GPU  
http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/smartphones/nokia-lumia-1020
 
Quad?

Good observation. Qualcom site says quad core (S4+) but AT&T site says dual core (S4). It's likely that Europe may get the quad core/ 64 GB version.
Lumia 1020 is indeed a monster...

Helpful reviews are hard to find on any tech sites. WPC is as good as any, with less than the normal amount of flame war nonsense. Another place that I have seen quality reviews of tech products is DPReview which covers digital cameras and photography and has a truely astonishing collection of information and reviews on cameras. They have done a few articles on the Lumia 1020 and the staff seems favorably impressed so far.
And then, when you get to the comments, I encountered a truely unqiue flame war: people who like the 1020/WP; zealous defenders of the Nokia 808 who view the 1020 as worthless would-be usurper; the Android camp; and those who think all smartphone cameras are junk and nothing but a Nikon DSLR is a real camera. This is a true four way battle with pretty everyone hating everything they don't own. I was interested that there were really no Apple defenders involved when I checked

Does everyone expect this phone to show up on other carriers in a few months after AT&T exclusive period runs it course?  Or will Nokia release minor revised models - maybe a 1025 and 1028 for other carrers as exclusives?
I really wish Nokia would abandon the exclusive business model and release the same phone on all carriers.  That would really boost the third party accessory market.