Treo 800w(?) surfaces in Gates Keynote

By WC Staff
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Well, our CTIA 2008: Bill Gates Keynote LiveBlog didn't go exactly as planned -- a pox upon batteries and their weakness! There wasn't, sadly, any hugely significant bits of official Windows Mobile news - but there was an unofficial piece of Windows Mobile news. The device at right appeared on the gigantic screen for a couple minutes during the keynote.

If the device at right isn't the spittin' image of the Treo 800w, then we don't know much about spittin' or images. Unfortunately, we don't have any details beyond what we can glean from the image:

  • It will be offered in white (yeah, we know, duh)
  • It will feature Windows Mobile 6 (6.1? Hard to say, have we seen any 6.1 devices with touchscreens yet?)
  • WiFi confirmed (2nd line down)

Are there any hints for people looking for a release date - If you believe the fuzzy “January 23, 2007” (or maybe 22) at the top has any relevance, it might. Somehow we doubt even Palm would have missed a release date by a full year. In any case, WMExperts is giving away the 800w to one of the lucky people who guess the release date - go check that out!

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  • I am watching the stream of the Gates CES Keynote, and I swear I saw the 800w in the background of one of the opening slides. Will grab a screenshot if I see it again.
  • Engadget managed to grab a shot:http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/01/gates-keynote-img_0621.jpg
  • Engadget managed to grab a shot:http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/01/gates-keynote-img_0621.jpg
    Wow, that's actually EFFIN ugly.
  • Looks good to me... I don't really care what it looks like... long as it works like my 700wx (stable) and has a bit more features... I'll be sold.....
  • Looks good to me... I don't really care what it looks like... long as it works like my 700wx (stable) and has a bit more features... I'll be sold.....
    If you saw my first wife, you'd realize I don't go for looks... so I am just as sold if it has what they say it has (wifi, gps, more ram/rom, 320x320).
    :D
    EDIT: I think the reason I don't like it much is because the screen isn't flush with the plastic housing, that really detracts from using my finger effectively on the screen.
  • Darth Pooh -
    I almost choked reading your reply....that made my day.
  • Looks good to me... I don't really care what it looks like... long as it works like my 700wx (stable) and has a bit more features... I'll be sold.....
    Took the words right out of mouth. I do hope the screen & bluetooth is much improved.
  • EDIT: I think the reason I don't like it much is because the screen isn't flush with the plastic housing, that really detracts from using my finger effectively on the screen.
    Maybe, maybe not. The 'Drucker' GSM version on the Vodaphone roadmap says "flush screen".
  • Its not the sexiest treo you're going to see, but i'll at least give palm credit IF they in fact pack this one with gps, wifi, bt 2.0, 320x320 screen, 256 mb ram, and a comfortable keyboard for regular data input.
    THAT package would make for a very nice upgrade, in spite of the fact that it might not be the most eye catching design.
    Let's see how this goes....
  • Watching the feed right now... it was not shown JUST briefly... it was shown for at least a whole minute... a big image at that... and it represented the windows mobile phones in the slide along with a laptop, a PC, and i forget what else
  • I want one.
  • Wow, that's actually EFFIN ugly.
    Do you remember the 1st picture of Centro? The final product will be different from this one. :D
  • Well, this one is finally getting its due, but I'm not sure how it is that it was posted first in October:)
    We posted this back in July, right after the Gandolf/Centro.http://morningpaper.typepad.com/morning_paper/2007/07/possible-pic-of.html
    It's the same device, as stated then, it has Wifi and GPS. Have no idea why it was knocked off the 07 Q4 release, but I still believe Sprint will be the first to offer it.
  • Make the whole thing black and it'll be a better looking device. It also appears to be decently thin.
  • Probably my next phone as well...
  • We snagged a better photo up at WMExperts. :D
  • I want one.
    Me too! After having that Mogul for a few weeks, I really loved the operating system but missed the one handedness of the treo. This would be the best of both worlds, and, I think it looks great too. :D
    Now, if it will have Treobble, it will be the best. :cool:
  • We snagged a better photo up at WMExperts. :D
    You gonna give us a hint as to which thread it's in? :D (Edit: I see it's on the main front page, sorry, I go straight to the forums):o I want one.
    Me too! After having that Mogul for a few weeks, I really loved the operating system but missed the one handedness of the treo. This would be the best of both worlds, and, I think it looks great too. :D
    Now, if it will have Treobble, it will be the best. :cool:
  • I'm liking the looks of the 800w--the soft key buttons are interesting, being flush with the device.
    And not to take credit since I :censored:ed about it before lol, but looks like they added back the Right Shift key which was missing in the original mockup. Yay--that missing key drives me nuts on the Centro.
  • yes, and it says sprint on it as well. now i'm getting excited.
    how in the world did/do you see the Right Shift key on there mal? anyhow, thats good new.
  • how in the world did/do you see the Right Shift key on there mal? anyhow, thats good new.
    Look at the original mockup--see where the "Alt" key near the bottom right? On the 700wx, there is also the "up arrow" Shift key there on both sides. It's missing in that mockup, which I assume was just a hastily put together photoshop job by Palm.
    In the new image, you can see the Alt key but smaller and now it has the second Shift key. I assume it was always planned to be there, but nice for the confirmation. They did get rid of it on the Centro (making it's absence on the 800w plausible) and makes capitalizing a bit tricky as you have to use your left thumb 100% of the time and slows down typing when needing to cap a key on the left side of the KB.
  • forgive me, i think i become more blind with each passing day. where on the phone does it say sprint??
  • forgive me, i think i become more blind with each passing day. where on the phone does it say sprint??
    On the keynote pic? It doesn't. But that is 99% the 800w, which we already know is a CDMA phone. So its either Sprint or VZW, but most reports have claimed Sprint as the first in line
  • I want one too. I'd take it as is but would prefer it in black or silver.
  • I want one too. I'd take it as is but would prefer it in black or silver.
    I think it actually is silver/gunmetal gray, not white.
    It also looks like two-toned with black on the back, probably that popular rubberized paint for grippyness.
  • On the keynote pic? It doesn't. But that is 99% the 800w, which we already know is a CDMA phone. So its either Sprint or VZW, but most reports have claimed Sprint as the first in line
    I was replying to the quote below (should've quoted it in my last post)... I thought they were saying that the 800w had a Sprint logo on it somewhere.yes, and it says sprint on it as well. now i'm getting excited.
    how in the world did/do you see the Right Shift key on there mal? anyhow, thats good new.
  • yes, I am wondering what cody is referring to also.... I don't see a Sprint logo anywhere.
  • It says Treo on it so we know it is still a Treo.
  • Please let it have a ringer switch on top?
    I think its silver-metallic also, not white.
  • Please let it have a ringer switch on top?
    Please let it have an memory card that you can easily insert and remove, meaning, if it has a door, I don't want it to feel like it's going to break off everytime I use it. :rolleyes:
    I think this phone is going to put Palm back in business big time. Ironic that it could take the WM OS to bring Palm back. :cool:
  • id rather it have that sensor like that nokia phone coming out (i think) where if you turn it upside down so the screen faces down (say, on a table) it auto-silences, because half the time the ringer switch doesn't even work for me (because im on a treo 700w and it gets slowed to a crawl and nothing works, ****)
  • lol. i was just joking about the sprint logo on the phone. i cant see it like mal can. i just want to think positive.
    come on sprint... slap a sprint logo on that puppy and give us some pics/details.
  • I think this phone is going to put Palm back in business big time.
    If that were their intent, the keyboard would've been recreated. Another glaring blond-spot that has RIM laughing all the way to the bank. Come on Palm, you can do better than just keep your neck above water, can't you?Ironic that it could take the WM OS to bring Palm back. :cool:
    If not for WM, after the sale of the PalmOS to ACCESS, Palm, Inc would already be wormfood.
  • Its the 23rd cause its says WED :)
  • lifes2short,
    I hope you are aware Palm licenses their keyboard design from RIM directly, also I'm unaware of many complaints about the kb on Treos, in fact many consider it their strength.
  • lifes2short,
    I hope you are aware Palm licenses their keyboard design from RIM directly, also I'm unaware of many complaints about the kb on Treos, in fact many consider it their strength.
    Didn't know that - I hope to hell they stay away from the 88xx kb's then! Yuck.
  • Didn't know that - I hope to hell they stay away from the 88xx kb's then! Yuck.
    Yeah, they mostly do it just to keep RIM's lawyers away, since they are quite sue-happy, so although Palm doesn't exactly copy every RIM keyboard out there, the overall "design" is patented by RIM. I imagine Palm licenses the basic "plan" for the KB and then makes some modifications, adding their twist here and there which I'm quite happy with :o
    FYI, it goes back to 2002 when both Handspring and then Palm (separate companies at the time) came to an agreement with RIM. Certainly a bit of interesting trivia, especially when people suggest that Palm should copy RIM's keyboard design, lol--it's one of those even if they don't copy them, the patent is so broad Palm has no choice but to pay RIM.
  • When!!!???
    I just got the Q9c because I am getting past the boredom point with my WX. The Q is decent but has a couple of fatal flaws and overall is not as efficient as the WX.
    I am ready to pounce on this thing!
  • I'm definitely not signing a new contract with Sprint until they unass the new treo. My time for signing was in November of last year and I told the Sprint rep that there was no way I would sign a new contract without the new treo800w or 850 and since I weigh 240 at 6ft with 5% body fat; he had no problem with agreeing. He in fact told me that he would call me when the new 800 or 850 comes out sometime in Febuary. It would be nice if it did come out this month but the way they are hiding the details of the release date I think it's safe to say that it will be out at the beginning of Febuary. I will be in line for it.
  • since I weigh 240 at 6ft with 5% body fat; he had no problem with agreeing. .
    Huh?
  • You forgot to mention that you were wearing your kilt and you asked to blow his bag pipe. That would make anybody give you what you want because they are so embarrassed to be seen talking to you.I'm definitely not signing a new contract with Sprint until they unass the new treo. My time for signing was in November of last year and I told the Sprint rep that there was no way I would sign a new contract without the new treo800w or 850 and since I weigh 240 at 6ft with 5% body fat; he had no problem with agreeing. He in fact told me that he would call me when the new 800 or 850 comes out sometime in Febuary. It would be nice if it did come out this month but the way they are hiding the details of the release date I think it's safe to say that it will be out at the beginning of Febuary. I will be in line for it.
  • ...and since I weigh 240 at 6ft with 5% body fat; he had no problem with agreeing. Huh?
    I think he means he had "relations" with the Sprint rep since obviously physically threatening a phone company employee would be just silly and weird.
  • since I weigh 240 at 6ft with 5% body fat; he had no problem with agreeing. He in fact told me that he would call me when the new 800 or 850 comes out sometime in Febuary.Huh?
    Yeah... so I visit this section of the forum more times a day than I'd like to admit hoping that I'm about to read that breakthrough post regarding the 800w... you know the one... the one where after you read it you look out your office window to see people dancing in the streets and you're not surprised in the least at the sight because you know who they are... Treo fans celebrating the news!
    ... The news that someone so absorbed in and impressed by their own physical appearance fooled them self into thinking that a Sprint rep didn't force them to sign a contract that they weren't obligated to sign in the first place, gave them a reliable release month and that anybody here actually cares.
    Cheers!
  • He must be HUGE to make the Sprint employee agree to NOT make him sign a contract.
    I was out of contract at VZW a week ago, but I'm only 230 lbs and 7% body fat so they had no trouble pinning me down, forcing me to sign my name, and swiping my credit card. Then they made me buy a refurb 700w at full retail and throttled down my net speed to 50 kbps. Maybe I should switch to Sprint? :)
  • He must be HUGE to make the Sprint employee agree to NOT make him sign a contract.......
    I think the Sprint employee was just pacifying the guy. There's no rep out there who's really got the authority to say that they're getting a particular phone in say February. Besides it just makes the customer all the more irate if it turns out not to be true!
    In any case, I'm staying with VZW because of good service and customer service. If the phone comes 3 months after Sprint, so be it.....
  • until they unass the new treosince I weigh 240 at 6ft with 5% body fat; he had no problem with agreeing.
    I'd ask what "unass" means, but I guess I have no problem with agreeing. :p :D
  • If you saw my first wife, you'd realize I don't go for looks... so I am just as sold if it has what they say it has (wifi, gps, more ram/rom, 320x320).
    :D
    EDIT: I think the reason I don't like it much is because the screen isn't flush with the plastic housing, that really detracts from using my finger effectively on the screen.
    LOL
  • I wonder if the 800w will have picture mail...
  • I wonder if the 800w will have picture mail...
    Don't count on it! LOL
    I hope it does, though... Not having picture mail capability on a top tier phone is rather silly.