Windows Phone Design team on 2015 OS redesign rumor: LOL
Earlier this week, a rumor was started by a certain “journalist” who shall remain unnamed stating that the Windows Phone team was looking to “start over” in 2015, including a re-write of the OS and that they were even considering toying with the Modern look of the UI.
A few of you tipped us on it, asking us to cover the news but it’s a safe bet that if we don’t re-report something, it’s because we think it’s garbage. Indeed, this “journalist” has been more wrong than right in his ambitious predictions about Microsoft, Nokia and Windows Phone in the past, but other tech sites are addicted to his bold headlines.
Now, the Windows Phone Design team, responsible for the UI and "theory" behind Windows Phone, has evidently had enough, as they have publicly rebuked the rumor via their Twitter account.
In a posting, just over an hour ago, the team humorously wrote the following:
In a later Tweet, in response to someone jokingly accusing the team of being drunk, they retorted with “nah. The guy who started that rumor is though” and “don't believe everything you read”.
Indeed, that is very sage advice. Just because something appears on the internet folks, doesn’t mean there’s any truth to it. And if Windows Phone Central is seemingly ignoring a story, it’s probably because we don’t think it’s worth its salt and we have good reason to not run it. That means it doesn’t even register on our “rumor meter”. Such is the case here but it is worth reporting when the team behind our Windows Phone design squashes such a fabrication.
The fact is, we have no idea what Windows Phone will be like in 2015 and it seems premature to be talking about any overhauls or system-wide changes. We do know that the Windows team is working more closely with the Windows Phone one (for better and worse, friction can happen) but what this results in as a final product, is way too early to say.
Source: @WPDesign Team; Thanks, willysocks2222, for the tip!
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LOL. Thanks for the info btw, I'll remember his name =P
Nik Rolls - you're so much going to pay for your joke !!
And with that, those that obviously hate MS, well whatever your opinion (and sometimes your wishes) are just that... YOUR'S. Nobody can take that from you. But for the love of everything Holy, just STFU and keep it to yourself. Don't splash it on the walls hoping to incite enough emotion to bring your wishes to fruition.
Some of these tech sites, and "writers" are all about that. They can't hide their prejudices, and disdain for WP and MS in general. I can't believe how many WP "reviews" I have seen or read by folks who do it with a snide smirk of sorts... or a constant doubt about WP, all while showing that they really didn't even use the device much more than turning it on and going to their own website.
I mean, how can something be called a "test" of any WP device when it's main features go unmentioned?
Alright, I'm rambling now.
I'm still waiting on Microsoft to fall because of Vista... remember that? Everyone acted like Macs or something were suddenly going to "take the crown" and Microsoft would never survive... Oh the haters, they love to hate.
I have try to answer :
On the hardware front, Windows' button will have a small sliding structure like in the Nokia 5610.
Microsoft put many many hours into this version. "metro". Nothing wrong with it. Just need to be a little quickly with the improvements from here on out. Gooday mate. . .
Those would be amazing W8 features added to WP8
There's a chance that MS may change how the Start screen looks and functions right now, but with what I'm sure would be further improvements to it and it being fully functional with the hardware right now. I suspect that some features might come in later versions of the OS that may not work on low-end hardware - who knows! the Lumia 920 might become a low-end device by 2015! But then again, who could argue with that? Android's new releases tend to leave older devices in the lurch as well as older iPhone models suffering from performance issues and missing features as iOS progresses further... so why is Windows Phone an exception there?
If you ask me "Eldar Murtazin" (the guy who started the rumor) is simply trying to get attention by making negative statements about stuff that he supposedly has a personal vendetta against... Or more likely, he was simply drunk when he wrote that ;)
There's a tech blog/site that I used to read regularly not long ago but left for the very same reasons. Just to make headlines, they started posting some of the most ridiculous articles. Call me a fool, but I'd prefer an article with substance and proper information over rants and raves any day of the week. Just Crazy!!
And you can imagine why i love Mobile Nations so much then... ;)
so yeah, i dont think Windows Phone will start over once again. why would they? if they wanted a new UI, they could just change it, just like they change UI from WinXP to Win8 and they didnt have to "start over"
so in the end yeah I believe WinPho9 OS will be compatible with current winpho 8. and its nice to see Windows Phone team talking about rumors and telling us they are not true.
about leaking information I guess) since then, he's just trying to say the most idiotic thing he can say about Nokia whenever he gets the chance.
what calendar app is that? Opinion versus the first party app?
Microsoft has stated that WP8's UI and Windows 8's Modern UI would eventually merge, with the two UIs acting more like each other and behaving appropriately based on whether it is running on the phone or a tablet/desktop.
So the 'mergining' of the frameworks and the 'mergining' of the UIs WILL happen in the next couple of years and is known and expected.
However, the rumor took this to mean that the existing work would be broken without a path forward for Apps and that the ENTIRE OS from the NT kernel up would be redesigned.
Which is flipping crazy and shows a complete lack of understanding of the technologies. Microsoft has no reason to change from NT, as they have demonstrated it is highly portable and highly extensible, and is still doing things that no other OS technology can (i.e. kernel level GPU scheduler). With NT the same code base is powering phones that is powering desktops and servers. It is also doing it faster than other techologies, as nobody can argue that WP8 is slow or laggy even on lower end hardware, and the same argument cannot be said aobut iOS or even quad core Android phones.
WP8 is fast and fluid if nothing else, and this is because of NT, as it is even more responsive than WP7 which was already impressive.
Definitely some more functionality would be nice though. If they took gestures from Win8 and added into WP, it would be awesome (swipe from left for fast multitasking, swipe from right for charms, swipe from up for notification center)
I would also like to see actual manipulation of live tiles. Like for instance, have Soundhound completely work without even opening the app, just touch a smaller button on the tile to have it start listening and then display the info on the tile. That's just one example, I'm sure developers could do so much with functionality like that.
And Voice Assistance definitely could use a little help. Something conversational like this research video from a couple years ago.... still waiting! (won't let me post link, search Microsoft Tellme on youtube)
I'd also like to see a unified store between Windows and Windows Phone(and maybe even Xbox) with apps that will run on both(but optimized for that platform,) and bundle deals for buying on more than one platform. I think that could definitely entice people that like value and who doesn't like value?!
Of course they also need some features that are really going to turn heads, even if it's gimmicky stuff like the Galaxy's look at the screen and play the video thing. They need things that can be shown on ads that will get people interested.
They are heading in the right direction but it's just taking awhile, I wish MS would just throw bundles of money at their engineers(and hire MORE) and app developers to get all this shit right now... like... right now, right now.
I came from iOS and very breafly from Android and i´m afraid since i have my Nokia 920 i cant count on notifications anymore and i miss messages. this really annoys me because i thought this was the OS build for connectivity.. live info on the live tiles (i would call them bearly alive tiles...) and so on... So great idea... poor execution.... for now... i have fate that they will get better but i can´t have messages notification coming in 5/10min after they were sent... i can´t have a FB chat that updates here and there and it´s not live at all times...email and text are great (thanks... those are great anywhere.... my first sony erickson had already those two thing sorted.... but the rest of the notifications are rubbish. Who say "I´m happy with the notifications" is a fun boy or doesn´t really use the phone for work. When you don´t get a on screen notification or a sound notification on a what´sapp message and it was and important one belive me you get upset. iOS is always the same and nothing much is being happening for the past few years ( iknow iOS7 is out now...) but people love it because it never let you down. It´s simple but it works well. That should be the target for MS. Make this thing "perfect" and than build on that... don´t keep adding things that works 95% of the times. You are expecting things to work so you will only remember that 5% that went wrong. The 95% that went right is just how is suppose to be... nothing more.