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Joe Belfiore planning something for the Windows Phone community

Joe Belfiore

Now this could be everything, or it could be nothing at all, but Joe Belfiore has teased on Twitter that he may have something for the Windows Phone community (or rather the general public) in the next few days. The manager of the Windows Phone division at Microsoft recently celebrated his Birthday and was greeted by numerous messages on the social network.

To say thank you, Belfiore fire out the following:

So what do you think he could potentially have in store? Sound off your thoughts in the comments!

Source: Twitter (@JoeBelfiore); thank, Samst22, for the tip!

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Joe Belfiore planning something for the Windows Phone community

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Well that would be acceptable seeing as how it's not completely old. Just don't hype us up for something outdated even if it is popular.

Something that big will need both your hands...

inb4: maybe it has something to do with the may 14th announcement? 

Who the hell needs it? The third party apps available are even better than the First Party YT apps available for both Android or iOS.

True, but the OS is designed to launch YouTube links in the official app, not in third party ones, so having an official app that can also handle those redirect links would be something special for a lot of people.

Wrong, if you click a YouTube link and don't have YouTube installed it tells you to install the app. We need the option in the OS to allow us to choose the app we want to use.

The app itself wouldn't be a big deal. However, google has already said they had no plans for wp. if an offical youtube app from google where to come, it'd be a big deal just because it would show that google is willing to program for wp. (Could lead to maps, gmail, etc.)

Could be iHeartRadio.
iHeartRadio told me that they will release soon.

Although I would love a new and improved Facebook (even though there is a new one that came out a few days ago, but it isn't MS's fb).

Yep, now that we have Instagram to fill the Instagraph Void we need snapchat. Was just in SoCal this week for work and every one of my co-workers were snapchating constantly (and using Instagram every 5 minutes) 
What I want is a new Facebook App, maybe a WP version of home (remember the rumors a while back that Microsoft may have been giving FB more access to WP that most developers, including the ability to alter some functions).

Actually this Joe guy is a well known internet troll who gets Windows Phone users' hopes up then craps all over them.

Wow.. Get new friends.. Or show them some exclusive apps games that you have in exchange..

You know what I hate about Instagram.. One posts a beautiful paradisiac place and receives a couple of likes and the girl next door posts a screenshot and she gets hundreds of likes.. It just makes me mad.. Also, social networks are mainly to make females' egos bigger since they get TONS of attention

you know i completely agree with you. i like dabbling in photography but havent had an opprotunity to go out and just mess with my camera so all i ever have is my 920. i take pictures of nature, you know like creeks and landscapes, and etc... and no one has like my photos, you got dimwitted teens posting a single pic of themselves touching their leg or with swimwear and its like a zillion likes and its like.... If you wanna see naked girls so bad just use the internet.....you will get alot more for your buck you know what i mean? anyone who says this is for "the social network" is just kidding themselves into thinking that they have some fictional popularity that really isnt there. i dont understand how people can live in those fictional worlds.

Very true. I weep for my fellow females. :-( A young girl posting pics of herself on the internet is asking for a heap of trouble.

Yeah unfortunate because you consider elegant beauty is so much better than being naked or partially naked in photos. They need to let themselves be respected instead demand it without meriting it.

I wish I could drum that into the heads of a few women I know because I honestly get tired of them complaining to me about no one respecting them.

+1, my friends are addicted to Gravity Guy 2. Well, so am I.  Glad I bought it, after the horrid experience with the trash that is Gravity Guy 1, I was happy that the sequel is amazing. Hope it's alot of things, but I think it'll be a good release.

Halo/Forza/Fable/Gears/Keflings/Peggle for WinPhone.

Though shitty filters for low resolution square photos is more likely.

It already supports MP4 fine, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. It's even listed as a suported file container on the Windows Phone website. What it needs is one that supports MKV though.

All I want is wav files. Can't check work VM when I'm out of the office without taking my laptop or my old android with me.

Talk to your exchane administrator and have him change the save format for voice mails to mp3. No one uses wav files anymore.

How about wav file support?  It'd be nice to listen to a work VM on my WP8 device as I could on my previous WP7 device.

Your exchange admin is lazy. Have him change over to mp3.
 
I make the assumption you are using exchange and unified communications services (lync, voip office phones, etc)

Instagram!!!!
I want to flood my facebook timeline with pics of my dog, landscapes and food... Well, maybe not food. I eat at home anyway...

Already runs Silverlight, and flash is being replaced by HTML5 so there's no need for flash any more. There is a reason you can watch YouTube videos, they switched over to HTML5 and WP supports it in IE10....

It doesn't support in-browser Silverlight. Many apps are made using a subset of Silverlight APIs that were baked into WP APIs.

The best thing he can do for the community is to leave Microsoft anf to get hired by Apple and do there exactly what he does in Microsoft - it wlil destroy Apple in a matter of a second like an atomic bomb. 

I bet you don't know shit about Joe Belfiore. He was in my opinion the best speaker in any conference, also he said something and he delivered. I love his work on WP I say keep it up

Hear hear! I think he's a wonderful speaker. His passion for the platform really shows. I don't think the slowness of these releases has anyhting to do with bad leadership, but becuase of a less competent WP team in general than compared to the Windows team. At least that is what P. Thurrott suggested.

Awesome the guy can talk, I think we need something more than a guy that talks like an America Pie advert. He could talk like a depressed 14 year old nerd, but as long as the apps are delivered, that's all I'd care about.

Why don't you go and talk to these app companies and have them make apps for WP? It isn't clear cut since app developers have leverage on Microsoft to extort them for money. It isn't just getting the app on windows phone its getting a high quality application on windows phone.

Seeing his last time's tease for a super old Temple Run, I doubt its something out of the box that we're waiting for.

I don't know. Too many hiccups and broken promises...which makes me passive towards this guy. At least he occasionally replies or DM's back.

Whatever it is will be cheered and jeered by all, because:
 
1. It will be wanted by some but ho-hum to others.
2. It will be accused of being "about time" or "too little too late".
3. It will be accused of being "buggy" or "lackluster" features.
 
Sadly, I fear people just aren't appreciative as they should be.

I agree. Its like some people think its Joe's job oversee the development of products that customers want. Microsoft is doing us all a favor by letting us purchase these phones. We should thank them no matter what they produce.

Is he finally going to add features to Windows Phone and make it even remotely competitive? I haven't seen him accomplish anything noteworthy in the last 8 months, so I hope he does something soon. Getting real tired of waiting for some very basic features...

umm... wtf?  Troll much?   What 'very basic' features are we missing?  Yes, there's features they can add... but 'very basic' and 'competitive' features we have tons of with Windows Phone 8.

Go look up the word troll, then stop using it. As far as basic features to, we can't change any sounds to what we want them on the Lumia 920 but the default ringtone. If you think that's not a basic feature, your lying to yourself. That was a common feature 10 years ago almost. Windows Phone is way behind, and that's the tip of the iceberg. What does Belfiore give us? A two year old Teple Run game, and a single update that gave us zero feature additions that were worth a few months of testing. 

If you're crying about custom sounds... then that's pretty sad.  Sure that's a "nice to have", but it's not a showstopper and doesn't make a phone "way behind".  They focus on the most important and key features before providing stuff like that.  Also, you're whining about Temple Run, while many people are happy we have it now.  If you're not happy then go jump to another platform instead of calling it "way" behind for 'nice to have' basic features.  We already have lots of unique features and all the key features we need to be on par with the other competitors, now it's just adding the 'nice to haves', growth and more apps.  Sit down and calm yourself.

If a dumbphone can do it its not a 'nice to have' feature, its a 'why the fuck isn't it available on a 2013 phone that retails for £500' feature.

Wait... You cannot load custom ring tones into a WP8 phone? I do not actually own a WP8 device. I am an Android user, I just support the WP8 cause. But for real you cannot load custom ringtones? My wife has a 30 dollar flip phone with a sd card and it allows custom MP3 ringtones... If this is true... this is sad...

Nope. The default ringtone and wake up alarm tones are the only ones you can change. Pretty sad they can't even add that in a phone sold in 2013.

I create customs ringtones all the time with the easy ring app, we just can't create custom SMS tones, which I would desire more then ringtones.

I'd be pretty dissappointed if they addressed this before a notification centre or improving the music + videos experience. Such a minor feature for me, personally.

I agree with you, music and video experience is downright awful. For me anyway. I don't have podcasts on my phone simply because the experience is absolutely terrible. I don't mean they should devote all their time to this one feature, but they are missing so many basic ones that they should have released an update to include them a very long time ago. It's way past time to have implemented them. If they don't have the 5 or so basics that I want, I guess I'll go somewhere else because if they can't do that, I have little faith they are trying elsewhere. So far I've seen nothing but two year old games as their big releases so I'm optimistic things can change quickly, but very cautious that they will. So far Nokia is the one doing all the updating. They are iterating super quickly and Microsoft has done absolutely nothing worth talking about yet. Not a good sign. 

Dnt act like wp8 is perfect !
no custom sms tone(i'll adjust ..no prb but still basic)
no filemanager(wish it had ..its ok if they dnt want to add)
no separate volume cntrl (WTF??)
no fully functional fb app
nibuzz doesnot have call feature
missing t9 text input(need this atleast using some app ..no proper app avlb tat merges with system)
no fm radio,notification centre(waitin for GDR2)
for sending videos via bluetooth ,it should in the pictures folder again WTF?

Yeah, Joe Belfiore being the main one. Customers expect basic features and haven't been given them. Basic business 101.

Joe Belfiore is the Developer Evangelist for the company. He's not the product director or the development team. His job is to get all of the 2nd and 3rd party developers on board developing apps for the platform, not adding your features.

I know what he doesn't do behind his desk, and that's push the platform forward and get us customers things that should have been there from day one. We haven't gotten a single update that's added any new basic features they lack since it came out. We should have gotten these things months ago, and Joe has only talked about getting two year old IP on the platform since it was released to the public. How long is it going to take, and how many people are going to buy phones that are missing basic features before they leave? I left iOS after 5 years to try something new, and while I really like WP8 a lot for various reason, the little fit and finish things like custom email tones is really annoying me. 6 months is more than enough time to push out updates to add the basics back in, and if they aren't by the time my interact is out I'm leaving because there's no excuse for that. We've gotten exactly zero updates that have provided anything of serious value, and Joe tweets about getting old IP as if its something special?

By "custom email tones," I assume you refer to individualized (one tone for Gmail, one for outlook, etc.), because I have been able to add all sorts of different tones to my phone from day one. I was able to do that on wp7 and wp8.

In any case, I feel that custom tones is a really small, nit-picky thing. If I receive an email notification tone, my lock screen shows me which account has the email (my Gmail, outlook, and hotmail all have different icons). I don't need an individual sound when I see well enough which account has new emails to check.

You know which phone I had the hardest time adding tones to? The iPhone 5. I didn't like the fact that I needed to have the darn thing strapped to my laptop in order to add the tones through iTunes.

No, you can't change any alert tone in Windows Phone 8. You can add all the tones you want to the phone, you just can't use them on anything. You cannot change the email tone on any account on WP8, you can't change the SMS tone at all. The only sound you can change that the phone makes is the default ringtone. You obviously dont own a WP8 device because this isn't possible.
If you had a hard time adding tones to the iPhone, you can't use a computer. You can make a tone right inside iTunes with any audio file you can find. It's literally like three clicks to do so. I can't add tones to my Lumia 920 without a laptop either, so that isn't a knock against the iPhone in any way. I don't like iTunes at all, but saying that's a ding against the iPhone is disengenuous when WP8 requires you to be plugged into a computer to accomplish the exact same thing.
If it's nitpicky to you then that's fine, but it can't be done and that's a serious oversight even if you don't think it is. It's a very big complaint with WP8.

I'm a level II support tech; I assure you, I CAN use a computer, and that wasn't my point anyway. I was able to add tones to my phone without a PC (there are apps if you know where to look), but not with iPhone. That was my nitpick with it. If you think that's disingenuous, then that's your opinion, but I didn't like it. Relatively easy to do, but annoying.
I did own a WP8 device, but admittedly not for long.
My mistake, I saw options for choosing the tones, but never having felt the need to edit them, I didn't look at the list. Plenty of custom ringtones, yes, but only the alert tones can be chosen for the text, email, and vm. Sorry for contradicting you earlier.
I guess it was just never important to me to be able to edit that.

You can get ringtones directly on the iPhone anyway through the App store, so that point is invalid anyway. Oh, and those sames tones you can get directly on an iPhone can be used everywhere a custom made one can so that dislike of the way the iPhone works is completely irrlevant and incorrect right off the bat. But saying that it's worse because you have to click a mouse a few times versus searching for apps "if you know where to look" is a strike against the iPhone is pretty much picking and choosing how you want to see a circumstance.
Literally nothing on WP8 can be changed but the default ringtone, and the alarm alerts. WP8 is sorely lacking here, and you've gotten the iPhone all wrong with adding content to it. You don't have to hook it up for anything other than music you already own, and you can sync over wifi without pulling it out of your pocket. Something Windows Phone 8 can't do. So it's even further behind than iOS (obviously). I seriously doubt you've ever even owned an iPhone because it's been a very long time since you've been required to plug an iPhone into a computer to do anything other than factory restore one. Everything can be done over wifi, and has since the iPhone 4 if I remember right.

Onerun, I am done talking with you. There is nothing fruitful about this conversation whatsoever, and it has devolved into not a conversation of the merits of either OS, but your burning need to be right about a relatively irrelevant feature. I wish you the best in your ventures, but do not feel the need to talk to you further.

If he's excited enough to tweet that were getting a "huge" app and it turns out to be Te,ple Run, I'm more than happy to hold him accountable for it. People are asking for basic features and instead of addressing their concerns he takes time out of his day to announce the "huge" app we are getting is a two year old game. Not even the new one! He took it upon himself to be the face of Windows Phone on twitter and be the spokesperson for the platform, not telling us when they'll reach basic feature parity in the market and instead hype a two year old game is more than enough reason to lay blame on him. I don't want games, I want basic functions.

Onerun is right. I am now reconsidering switching. Temple run, instacrap, fatbook are all crap I could care less about but basic functions like assigning various sounds depending on the notification is a basic function that android had since day one, and is an exceptionally import function to me. it is how I tell if I need to get my phone out of my pocket, unlike others I do not live with the thing in my hand 24/7. I drag my phone out for work emails, phone calls, and text messages. By sound I can tell which is which so I am not dragging it out to see that I have been invited to farmville again by some cow I went to high school with or someone wants to challenge me in a game of words with not really my friends, or my oldest friend asking me to allow him to add my birthday which is literally 9 days before his to his calendar but all I have to do is download some POS fatbook app.
 
/what now seem like a bitter rant against facebook....
Fatbook = facebook where all the people you went to highschool with add you and you notice that all can seriously displace some water in a swimming pool.

When you're the head of a division, the buck stops with you. It's his department, he's accountable for whatever happens there. No matter how big or small. It's been that way for many, many years. Doesn't make me feel better, though.

If you guys have noticed he stressed on the you by making it "YOU". For all we know it might be a YouTube app. The likely hood of this happening is quite low, but its still a possibility. That's if google has some sudden love for Microsoft.

Btw, where did he mentioned that its for windows phone community? I guess 'YOU' means, all his fans.
Anyway, Happy birthday wishes for him.

Does anyone even know what "huge app" he was hinting at about a month or so ago that was said to be announced in a few days, then delayed, then never announced?
I don't feel the excitement regarding all of these "announcements" that everyone else does, I think maybe because I don't really consider the WP to be lacking.

for the love of god let it be snapchat for WP8... I would much prefer that to instagram. Even though there has been no word on snaptchat for WP... A guy can dream right?

There has been a word snapchat on twitter said they were "meeting with the windows guys" back in February so it might be it

The user Instagram is taken for the developer usernames so it could be instagram using it, but then again anyone could use the username Instagram.

I'm hoping GDR3 release including support for 1080p resolution screen before big nokia announcement on the 14th of may!

At this point I think it HAS to be instagram. - "the next few days" hmm.. How long could that mean?

I wonder which version of Temple Run he'll announce this time. I have to say I don't have high expectations from much that dude says anymore.

Lol! I agree a bit with you! You expect something big, and then once it drops, you may end up with your heart dropping. I want the whole temple run franchise soon.

I hope it is a new top notch  Nokia Phone for Verizon and a marketing team for the retailers to teach them about the Windows Phone, most of the retailers don't know or don't want to know for one reason or the other.  They are great phones, just get a new one out there.

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