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AT&T Nokia Lumia 1520 to have only 16GB of storage? Say it ain't so!

It looks as if the cannibalization of the AT&T Nokia Lumia 1520 Windows Phone hasn't stopped. First you have the omission of the built in wireless Qi charging. Now it appears as if the Lumia 1520's internal storage will be 16GB instead of 32GB that was noted during Nokia World.

Specs for the AT&T Nokia Lumia 1520 at and at Nokia's U.S. product page for the Lumia 1520 lists the storage as being only 16GB. The only saving grace is that it is noted that the Lumia 1520 will have expandable memory (micro-SD card slot) up to 64GB.

We aren't sure as to why AT&T has chosen to reduce the on-board storage, just as it is a mystery that they would drop the internal Qi charging.  There's still a chance that this could be a typo but for the specification to show up on both websites makes this unlikely.

One can only hope that the storage reduction will translate to a lower pricing point for the Lumia 1520 otherwise, it's another case where the customers are getting the raw end of the deal and could effect Lumia 1520 sales.

Thanks, jholso, for the tip!

George is the Reviews Editor at Windows Central, concentrating on Windows 10 PC and Mobile apps. He's been a supporter of the platform since the days of Windows CE and uses his current Windows 10 Mobile phone daily to keep up with life and enjoy a game during down time.

  • F*ck AT&T.
  • True. As if delaying GDR2 wasn't obvious enough to push people toward Iphones. Now they're using storage size
  • It's not even that. It's that they just want you to buy new phones, period. They make more money that way keeping you locked in there ecosystem. 
  • By neutering the new phones (16GB 925, now 16GB 1520), they're not making me want to buy a new phone at all.
  • I have a 1020, and I would take a 16GB with expansion slot over 32gb without any day. I dont think it's a bad trade off, being able to install a 64GB MicroSD card is way more effective than what the 1020 offers in fixed storage.
  • The issue is that the 1520 originally comes with 32GB AND SD expansion up to 64GB. There isn't a trade off with the ATT is nothing but a loss for the consumer and I will be SUPER surprised if ATT passes the savings to the customer. I am assuming it will be priced at $299. If the cut in storage brings the 1520 down to $199 then that is easier to digest. Lowering the price is the LEAST ATT can do considering we would be getting a device that has been reduced from its original specifications.
  • It had better be 199 if this is what Att did to this phone.
  • After they're done gimping this phone it better be $450 off-contract. What's up Verizon or TMO might be time to find a new carrier.
  • Take a look at the price you'd pay with T-Mobile. They lack the phone selection, but it is so much ridiculously cheaper that it is worth it to me. I am tired of AT&T's anti-consumer business practices (not so much the GDR2, but their prices and suspicious charges). You _do_ end up paying out of contract pricing for AT&T exclusive phones (via Rogers in Canada, which does not disable the T-Mobile compatible frequencies unlike AT&T). If you want a phone supported directly by T-Mobile, then they will subsidize the price, but they won't hide it from you _and_ you actually stop paying once it's paid off, unlike Sprint, AT&T and Verizon, where the "subsidized" price continues forever even after your contract is up.
  • Except for things that can't go on the storage card, like apps, I agree with your point, but at this point why not say f it and give 32GB plus the storage card slot :/
  • dude go f... yourself not everyone wants what you want. Im pissed that a dog s..t company like att never seems to never give people the option to chose from what is fully available. Not everyone thinks the same and want the same things... People should have the right to chose what they want from what is available...
    If people have the balls they should boycot att for two momths, let them see how it would feel if their bottom line is affected... a..holes.
  • I agree that starting a Boycott campaign is the only way that will make AT&T/Nokia to listen.  We should demand the following:
    1.  We want not only 32GB but also a 64GB version.
    2.  We want inbuilt wireless charging with L1520
    3.  We want an end to the AT&T exclusivity permanently
    Enough is enough.
  • I complete agree with you, all points.
  • Most people are in contracts and I doubt they will be able to boycott anything lol. Anyway my contract is up, so I will consider my next phone carefully I don't think there is a place for 16gb phones in 2013. However the bulk of what takes up my space is music and podcast most of my photos are on my unlimited skydrive data package. All of which can go on to an SD card, so what this will come down to is the price of the device if it is $200 then I will buy one if it is $300 this will give me cause to reconsider, but the unfortunate truth is as long as this device remains exclusive to ATT I won't have much of an option to move to another carrier.. >_>
  • No joke. All these people can do is bitch, bitch, bitch.
  • Surprised AT&T didn't offer a 32GB 925 just for the jab at TMoUS. Instead, they jabbed their customers by charging double for the upfront cost. But they are AT&T, so they can get away with it.
  • Yeah, not going back to 16GB and no wireless charging no deal.
  • Same here. I hate google, but I'd get a note 3 before I fumble out with a lame I crap.
  • Maybe they are just trying to save on the weight of the phone.
  • And I thought we suck for not having carrier plans and subsidies like USA :P
  • You don't want the USA system. The device price is initially less but the contract prices are fricking ridiculous.
  • Then choose to buy them outright... Simply solution.
  • I don't have $700 out of pocket, on the "device" line of my budget. I'm American, but I'm not rich. :)
  • Then get a contract... Its simply folks.
  • Seriously? Americans can't afford anymore credit debt, which is what post-paid is essentially. I'm rocking a 1020 (paid for) on at&t gophone $60 a month plan and always get a discount on service cards thru eBay, usually 10% at least. If you can't afford a 1020 get a 520 and be happy, its a great phone, my wife loves it!!
  • +1
  • what do you mean by, "Service cards thru ebay"?
  • lolol.
  • I think a $700 credit card debt is cheaper than paying subsidies to the carrier. But factor in when you buy the phone youre going to pay 100 to 200 already so you're really using credit of $500 dollars.
  • You forget your using their service which costs money.... Say you pay $80/month and $20/month of that goes directly to paying for the phone.... That amounts to ONLY $480 over the two years and you are paying $2/day for service... Which works out to be 4 calls on a payphone a day...
  • No bro, you can use similiar prepaid services such as ATT prepaid, Straight talk, AIO, H2o wireless just to name a few at $50 or less. There's no contract and usually is a flat price with tax included. So there is a $30 differences plus any activation or upgrade fee that isn't included. You're paying way over $700 for the course of 2 years.
  • $720... What is the cost of the Lumia 1020 available for $0?
  • Granted there are some expections, but the 1020s at the at&t stores are $199 with contract. If you can get it for $0 that's great and probably make sense to sign a contract. But in my case it's not worth it. Straight talk is about $41 a month for me. Savings of $937 instead of going with At&t. So even if I buy a Lumia 1020 at $650 out of contract it's still way cheaper.
  • Yeah, but you don't get 4G LTE with those services.
  • Yes, you do, started in August...I have StraightTalk 4G LTE with a AT&T compatible micro SIM running in my AT&T Nokia Lumia have to order online at StraightTalk...the $41.00 price point is if you pay for unlimited everything for one year...$495.00 + tax = $543...and no cell phone bill for 12 takes some work...just start off with $45.00 a month until you can scrimp and save for the yearly plan...but it's worth it...then you have 12 months to come up with your next's not anything but being smart about what you are doing, being patient and working towards a goal that will only benefit you in the long run.
  • You pay the subsidies to the carrier regardless. However, you can't really generalize credit card debt, because the fees and interest rates vary widely. I assure you that if his credit card is anything like Capitol One, the credit card debt is going to be more expensive. 
  • Yeah, I can't generalize credit card debts, but i factored the rates to be 20%, of course this will vary depending on your credit card interest rates. In the course 24 months youre paying about $150 in interest. Still cheaper in my opinion. Also you can pay it off sooner to reduce the interest rate. I still think buying youre phone outright and doing prepaid is the cheapest solution. Carriers dont subsidies phones for free they do it to make money.
  • Guess what what-here in the US you pay subsidies whether or not not you buy phone at full price. You are not gaining anything.
  • That's why you go At&t prepaid or use a Att MVNO provide which is nearly half the cost.
  • Not with a 4 line family plan.
  • Consider T-Mobile.
  • It's not like the contracts are any cheaper if you do :P
  • Choose a carrier who does...
  • ...and then I'd be sacrificing coverage area/signal strength. In my area anyway.
  • *Wipes eyes* Oh no!
  • That may not seem like a big deal to you, but having service on my phone is a pretty big deal to me.
    It seems asinine to me to choose an inferior product just to save a few bucks a month.
  • Then sign a contract... Stop bitching about the costs because the product is obviously worth the money you pay because you can live with saving money and less of a product.
  • Who's bitching? Not me.
    Maybe you should stop copy pasting responses.
    I'm just explaining to YOU why YOUR suggestions aren't feasible for everyone.
  • I'm saying don't bitch because you don't like paying for stuff you use. You have options but don't like the tradeoffs. I copy and paste my responses because the arguments are always ridiculously stupid. "I don't want to pay so much, but I will only accept the best."
    EDIT: I don't mean you specifically are but everyone always bitches about AT&T and Verizon on every fucking article.
  • And why shouldn't everyone bitch? Putting pressure on companies to make positive changes is not exactly a bad thing. Just because he uses the product doesn't mean he should stay quiet and pretend to be satisfied. How exactly does your strategy benefit the consumer?
  • Bitches without a valid point doesn't work and just discredits consumers as "uninformed". Naturally prices will remain in check because of competition due to basic economics.
  • NO G*d damn it... I want a Ferrarri, I want it to have twice the size of a normal gas tank, and I'll be driving it on dirt roads 90% of the time and since I can't have all 3 of these things in one product, I should whine about it.
  • That's a terrible analogy.
  • It's an extreme trying to stress a point I believe.
  • Jeremy Clarkson, is that you?
  • We know it isn't Hammond otherwise we would have a Porsche analogy.
  • Don't they make a Lamborghini like that? lol
  • The analogy would make sense if he was asking for something extreme. However, you have to be out of your mind if you think carrier plans and pricing don't deserve criticism. 
  • It deserves criticism but what consumers do it just whine about cost or not getting enough for free... People don't like paying for something they have already used.
  • No sacrifice...StraightTalk and Net10 run on the same AT&T network and T-Mobile network...same coverage area! They rent the networks from AT&T and T-Mobile...but don't have to pay for building and maintaining the networks and their towers...hence, the cheaper price!
  • Just buy the phone outright and go with a (AT&T or TMo) MVNO  for the plan. It's very simple.
  • +1
  • The only problem with that is you are still stuck with a monthly price that has you paying for a new phone every two years, so if you buy your own at full price, it in effect costs double. Golden handcuffs are still handcuffs.
  • Choose a different carrier who does...
  • Name one with with above average coverage and a healthy selection of phones.  I think that limites you to Verizon and AT&T which both keep on charging the higher rate even if you buy your own device. It's "simply" financially advantageous to buy on contract with those carriers because your monthly price is still the same. 
  • So then sign a contract and don't bitch... Either: Save money and have a lesser product or pay more for a better product and receive a better product... Stop trying to have your cake and eat it to.
  • Who the hell are YOU? People are having a conversation and you think you've got the world figured out and it's all so "simply". 
  • I'M a person who is tired of wireless customers complaining all the time... I don't claim to have the world figured out (especially considering I can't figure out AT&T's customer's ramblings) but I do understand a simply principle... Don't like paying for something? Don't use the services provided.
  • The problem is that it's not "simply".  It's much more complex than that.  If I want a cutting edge device with a 41mp camera on it and I live in the United States, I'm stuck with a choice of one.  That choice is AT&T.  It is a valid complaint that if AT&T is a horrible partner as evidenced by their delayed updates and stripping of features (DataSense) and taking features away from phones (wireless charging) then there is a dilemma to discuss.  People will choose the device.  In this scenario, it will be AT&T and the rational mind will take the contract to get the lower up front cost, even if they have the cash to pay retail.  AT&T (and Verizon) will continue to charge the bloated price even if you are not enjoying the benefits of the aforementioned subsidy.  I consider this price gouging in a market scenario that limits choice if you want a higher end device. As to your latest point, people complain about EVERYTHING online.  Even when we get something that they've been complaining about, they have to complain that it took too long.  If you're issue is REALLY people complaining, you might want to cancel your Internet connection.  In THIS case, carriers (ALL OF THEM) are really the weak link, ruining the wireless experience. 
  • Im in total agreement with you! well sort of...
  • Why does everyone keep talking about AT&T delaying updates? Is there any proof of this. Even if there was, I be willing to bet it's because of all the bricked Nokias they'll get back.
    I was reading an article on CNET about that. How a friend of the writers had gone through 4 Lumia 920s and he dealt with it in a good way. Me, it only took one Lumia for me to say ADIOS!
    Obviously AT&T and VERIZON have better service and coverage. Hence, you get what you pay for.
  • You say "adios", but are still here? Hmmm...something sounds fishy. Anyway, I had the original Samsung Focus and LOTS of people will testify that after an update there was a "vanishing keyboard" bug that Microsoft quickly put a fix out. Guess which carrier never released the fix? AT&T. I think they were the ONLY carrier not to release it. The only reason I got from countless time on the phone was that "AT&T doesn't like to put out small updates". I was like "even one that fixes a bug that cripples the phone?". I threatened small claims court, so they sent me a new device. They KNEW they were wrong! They KNEW they were holding up an important update, but they don't care. With GDR2/Amber, they were really late. Nokia had said that Lumia 920 would be the first to get it...they had it ready and other carriers put it out. I highly doubt that the "premiere carrier" didn't have access to the bits. My guess is that they took time to strip out DataSense, which is just ANOTHER example of them holding back and update/feature. As for the service/coverage, we are still getting less than what we pay for because they continue to charge bloated pricing plans for people who buy phones w/out subsidy. You can keep defending them if you want, but there are a lot of people who know better and know that something needs to change in our system or the oligopy will continue to stifle innovation and progress.
  • What wireless provider do you work for anyway?
  • None
  • It's a bit ironic that you're that making this simple principle go somewhere else argument, when you're doing the exact opposite. You don't like people complaining about wireless services, yet you choose to post extensively in the comments for a story that complains about a carrier. A lot of people don't really have a choice. It's one bad deal or another. You do have a choice though, and you decided to immerse yourself in a conversion that you claim you  hate. If anyone lacks common sense, it's you.
  • Hahaha, personal attacks are wonderful. Hopeless. :) Have a wonderful day douchebag!
  • I pointed out for very good reason that you were being hypocritical and weren't taking your own advice. You're the one name calling for no good reason.
  • Well done I say, well done!
  • You can USE AT&T phones and AT&T network on aio Wireless.  BYOP.
  • Thank you for explaining this-people not from the US just don't get how it works here.
  • If the "Jump" (Tmobile) & "Next" (ATT) are all crap as they add an additional $20-$25 per/month for 20-22 months which calculates to roughly $480 in that time span unless you continually upgrade which puts you in an ifinite loop like an unpaid credit card.
  • So then if it doesn't make financial sense... Don't do it.
  • Renting furniture doesn't make sense but people do it... Its an option.
  • Actually, T-Mobile JUMP is $10, and doubles as insurance (something which is seperate and costs extra on other carriers)
  • Except, you can sell your previous phone to buy the new one. It defers the new phone cost significantly!
  • Exactly!
  • The non-branded versions don't fully support our networks (wrong frequencies) and buying them outright doesn't save you money on your monthly plan, they cost the same. There are a few options which do cost less but they're inferior networks. 
  • Who says it doesn't save any money.. I call att and get $25 off per month each quarter. This means I am under no contract, pay $10 a month for unlimited data and have the freedom to go wherever I want if att does not provide any more discounts. Love the unlocked Nokia Phones.
  • I've never been offered anything like that nor have I heard of anyone who has. The only monthly discount I've seen is the 6 months free texting plan or $10 off texting plan permanently. I have the $10 permanently one but that has nothing to do with whether I'm in contract or not. It STILL costs me the same per month whether I take or leave the upgrade.
  • They are not inferior networks StraightTalk AT&T compatible SIM runs on AT&T's network...same speed and coverage...I'm from and in America- I was born here...and I understand exactly how the American cell system works and their dominance by Carriers...but to claim that there aren't options is ignorance at best...just say that you are too lazy to do the research, as well as, wanting to live beyond your means.
  • MVNOs don't allow roaming. Great if you never leave major metropolitan areas, but not otherwise. 
  • Not true phone is from South Carolina...I travel all over the US and I never had a problem...I'm in Oklahoma right now...nothing around here...I gotten service everywhere...and now got great LTE....suck it AT&T
  • Except that doesn't change your monthly spend. AT&T and Verizon don't offer different prices if you buy an unsubsidized phone anymore.
  • +1520
  • Ralph de la Vega, is that you?
  • Why would someone do that if their service provider won't give them a discount on service if they do that? 75% of the time in the US consumers have zero incentive to buy the device outright.
  • That would work except the monthly price does NOT go down becuase you buy it outright.
  • Buying outright doesn't lower your monthly cost. The subsidy is there weather you use it or not.
  • It does if you move to a different MVNO
  • Here's the issue. You pay the same pricing on contract whether you have a new device or not. You are always "subsidizing" a device on att and Verizon.
  • Very true. So, may as well get something for it, like a Nokia 920 for 0 dollas or whatever. I wish you could bring your own device and pay less, but it doesn't work that way. That 50 dollar plan T-Mobile offers would be great on AT&T postpaid service. On another note I've been trying aio wireless for a few weeks, so far it's been good. I won't know fo'sure til next month how good it really is as I'll be in the middle of nowhere trying it out.
  • That's the key. Paying outright is great for people that don't want the chains of contracts. Service fees are the same regardless. So if you don't mind contract, you should be using subsidy otherwise your missing out on new devices (assuming you're always in a contract). If you don't like contract, buy outright. The only savings that cam be compared otherwise is the cost to buy off contract versus breaking contract. And the fees are designed to cover the cost of the subsidy. Carriers are the ones protected, not consumers. If you don't leverage subsidy you're gimping yourself.
  • If I remember correctly the unlocked version was $750.00 and the AT&T version is $699.00 that we see that the AT&T version is's not worth it!
  • Yea sure I got a spare $750 that I don't know what to do with. Even if I did it wouldn't be for a phone. It would be for something I'll use for 5-10 years.
  • We have contracts in the U.K. and mostly seem reasonably priced. You can pick up a decent handset for free and have a generously allowance package over a two year contract for not much money.
    I picked up a Samsung Galaxy S 3 free on a two year contract for only £26/month. For that I get 200 inclusive minutes, 500 MB of internet, 500 SMS's and also unlimited Virgin to Virgin calls and texts. It also includes full comprehensive mobile phone insurance.
  • I got my 822 on Verizon for free, unlimited texts/calls and 2 GB of data for about $70 a month. Biggest difference between here & the UK is data service, if I'm not picking up a good 4G signal (rare) I'm pissed.
  • So in the country of freedom you get tied up.....financially....sad isn't it?
  • No.
    Its called capitalism.
    You have choices.
  • Yeah, here in capitalist America, when it comes to wireless carriers, you have the choice to get raped from behind or to have your nipples set on fire.
  • Hahaha wow
  • If you get past Economics 101, you'll learn about oligopy power.  That is not subject to the classic economics example you are attempting to cite.  Classic economics requires pure competition for the supplying company and perfect information to the consumer. Neither is true when a few large entities control a market.  Prices and choices are limited.  I could go into a whole lecture here, but it's not really worth the time.  The point is that it is NOT pure classic economics at play in this scenario.  There is clearly a leverage imbalance in favor of the oligopy powers in the market.
  • Hah. You save more money in the long run than we do (I envy those in the UK because I hate the subsidiarity model. Hell, T-Mobile is the only company here that lowers your bill if you buy your phone out right).
  • ... and if you do not buy the phone outright, they [T-Mobile] stop charging you for it as soon as it is paid off.
  • Here in INDIA there are no contract system and people pay outright for phones. just wanted know if contract system really saves money or is that a way for carriers to loot money from consumers ?
  • ATT needs to be taught a lesson but I don't want that to be on expense of Nokia esp with their one of best phones to date.
  • Yep. Remember, only carrier to have removed Data Sense as well. I'm through with ATT, I dint care what exclusives they get
  • ^great
  • I think part of the reason is so that you can't easily track how much data you've used and then you'll end up having to pay more for overages. But that's just me being paranoid of greedy companies. Or it could just be business sense where you have to find the most profits because that's what you're in the business for anyway. In the end, it is up to people anyway to know what they are supposed to be getting/signing up for. That's why there's competition. Choose what works for you.
  • Ahhhhhhhhhhh! @$$holes!
  • If it were an exclusive elsewhere everyone would complain. I'm just happy ATT has it. For me, the expansion slot is perfect. I'd rather have the extra 64gb at my own expense, if I need more than 16, I'll need more than 32....
  • I thought that Nokia has made two mistakes with L1520, one is the AT&T exclusivity and the other is external wireless charging.  Now I have to add one more if the 16GB thing is true.  I personally would definitely boycott this device.  Somebody has to teach Nokia a lesson.  :)
  • I wonder how much more abuse ATT WP customers will take before they tell both ATT and Nokia to go fuck themselves. And yes fuck Nokia as well for allowing this to happen. I love Nokia but if this BS continues, with crippled devices and months of waiting for basic updates I will stop supporting Nokia as well.
  • Do you guys see how (gigantically) long this thread is?
  • Ive Tweeted ATT and NokiaUSA. Nokia responded with thanks for the input.  ATT still refuses to address removal of features. Nothing will change.
  • Seriously, how many more reasons do we need to leave ATT, if you have another carrier in the area?  No Data Sense, they remove features from phones that other carriers dont.
  • Boycot at&t
  • So, I'm not from the US but why are there so many people on AT&T if everyone hates it so much?
  • That is an exelent question.
  • Because they are the only ones carrying Nokia's flagship phones.
  • Omg really? Wow I'm so sorry guys...
  • Agreed.
    "We aren't sure as to why AT&T has chosen to reduce the on-board storage, just as it is a mystery that they would drop the internal Qi charging."
    Really George Ponder, really? I don't understand why the writers at WPC continue to protect and sugar-coat all the BAD decisions AT&T continues to make with Lumias. AT&T continues to sabotage new Lumia releases, because they don't care about offering the best Lumia product range.
    There is no mystery here for me, I'll tell you exactly why AT&T has chosen to do this. It's because AT&T just doesn't care that much for Windows Phone or Lumias. Dropping the storage to the 16GB option or dropping the wireless charging means that AT&T only wants to offer the *bare minimum* specs on the 1520.
    The fact that AT&T keeps getting exclusives from Nokia is ridiculous. Surely by now, Nokia must have some leverage over the US carriers? AT&T's support of Lumias is so poor, it was brought up by a journalist during the 1020 keynote and unveiling.
    Why isn't Nokia pushing harder with Verizon? These AT&T exclusives are really hurting Nokia. Phones are being released with the bare minimum specs, and AT&T is being VERY slow with software updates. AT&T customers with Lumias were the LAST in the WORLD to get GDR2!
    We know that Sprint has a personal vendetta against Nokia, but since Softbank has bought Sprint, perhaps Nokia should try new negotiations with them? Until then Nokia should push REALLY hard with Verizon, and use that as leverage against AT&T.
    The other big question is Microsoft; with all their influence in the US, are they NOT helping Nokia with carrier negotiations? Are they hindering Nokia with US carriers in any way? Is this all on purpose until Microsoft officially completes the buyout of Nokia's phone division?
  • Forgot to add, Microsoft could sell unlocked Lumias at their Microsoft Stores if they wanted to, so WHY aren't they doing that? That would be mirroring Apple, and allowing consumers a full range of choice if their carrier choices are limited. For example, if your carrier doesn't carry the 64GB version of the iPhone, then simply go to your nearest Apple Store and get it there, or order it online from Apple.
  • Good point! Microsoft or Nokia should offer that.
  • Won't sell if it is true........
  • Or... maybe it will sell more with the lower price.
    With an SD slot, this shouldn't really matter much.
    Now, no wireless charging is whack.
  • MicroSD is good but 16gb internal memory is joke. It will fill in no time with apps/games only....forget about photos/videos.
  • Thankfully you can have the phone save pictures and videos into an SD card. So the phone itself can be for the OS and apps.
  • ...and music as well
    My 822 has 16 GB of internal space and 64 GB on my SD.
    I have an extreme amount of apps/games with about 3 GB left internally, plenty for me really.
  • Same here, but 32GB internal should be standard now on the higher end devices.  Or at least have both 16GB and 32GB options.
  • Some of us suffer from this other storage issue even on a gdr3 device so no 16gb is no good when like in my situation it will take up 10 GB for "other"
  • Just curious, does wiping a phone with the other storage issue after upgrading to GDR2/3 solve the issue? I have not seen the other storage issue occur on my 925.
  • It didn't for me: Lumia 920 and 8.8 GB of other
  • I have a moderate amount of apps and my 928's 32gb is shot.
  • Depends on use case scenario. On my l920 gdr3...11gb apps, 2gb media/files, 1.6gb system.... You see what I am saying here.
  • Leave the SD card for music/videos only. Your photos can go to SkyDrive. Plus, it's 200GB storage that you get with these devices!
  • SkyDrive doesn't save original resolution when you upload it by phone. That's why keeping it on your phone is good idea
  • @Lumia8x You can setup this if you want to upload original pics. My L920 always uploads original pics.
  • @Duduosf 200GB free with Lumia? Source? May be I missed that part.
  • he's probably talking about the Surface 2.  With the 1520 you get 7gb.
  • It won't become sub $500 because of these omissions. If a person is willing to spend $650 for a cutting edge tech, he can go upto $700-750 too.
  • Lumia 1020 started at $300 on contract and reportedly has done pretty bad. Maybe these measures will allow them to sell it for $100 on contract, which is way more likely to sell. In my opinion, if your going to saddle yourself with a several thousand dollar contract, what does it matter if your phone is an extra $100. But few people factor in the price of their contract
  • First...of all, this is so people use data plan more to upload to skydrive? Or is it to drive the price down? Hmmm...the mystery.
  • Manufacturing price should be negligible. If anything the device will cost AT&T the same as the better version because they're the only ones butchering the phone like this, so they need to re-tool their production just for the shitty AT&T version.
  • Probably to drive the price down. on my 920 I would much rather have 16gb internal and up to 64gb expandable makes much more sense for a large music and video collection
  • No, because once you are down to about 4 to 5 GB of internal space, most high end games can't install.
  • Let's not forget also that microSD cards cost money.
  • Which games? I have yet to have a problem with 3 GB and less storage on my 925.
  • Most people connect to wifi....I have a 10GB plan and don't use wifi at work and have only exceeded 1GB once
  • I think this is also a ploy to sell more accessories. First get rid of built in wireless charging so they can sell more wireless charging cover, then reduce internal memory to sell more micro SD cards. Just a thought.
  • But then, do people buy micro SD cards from the carrier or the OEM? I don't think so. I buy my cards from the general market and a 32 GB card costs just about 25 dollars.
  • It's still an opportunity for ATT to sell accessories. They sell the phone mention that it only has 16gb of internal storage, then points out they have cards they can buy to expand it. Some people may just buy it there to save time.
  • Wow, very disappointing
  • Why!? :(
  • No biggy
  • You cannot install apps to SD. The SD card would only be good for music, videos, and pictures.
  • That sucks!
  • I hope this ain't true.
  • I'd rather pay more for built in Qi charging, and the extra storage! :-/ Hopefully there will be an option later...
  • +1
  • Built in would be MUCH better, I do not want to have to snap on a case that may not allow me to use the better cases and have to put in a SD card to get my storage up to par. 
    This isnt enough to make me jump ship like some others are saying, but its enough to make me wait and get a version from another carrier and try to use it on ATT.  Had saved $850 for a new phone anyway.
  • It's as if ATT is passively/aggressively sabotaging Windows Phone. Deleting features, late updates.... Like their standing deal with Apple over the iPhone is keeping them from getting full featured WP offerings. Either that or, they're just idiot a**holes.
  • ^this
  • Sucks if true but will still buy
  • One word: Verizon. Now where's that 929?
  • Yes, let's see what Verizon will screw with!
  • Verizon has always been good with windows phone.
  • You are right.
    Because they only had the Trophy for 1.5 years before they got another WP device and while there were many other WP devices available in the market within that time. (I wanted the Lumia 900)
    Because the Trophy is still on 7.5 and never received the 7.8 update. (Dont want to hear about seven-eighter)
    Must be why their employees know nothing about WP and constantly try and sell you something else.
    Because AT&T received the Lumia 920 exclusively and 7 months later VZW came out with their "business" looking version. (this is partially what i meant by screw with it.)
    Because Verizon took a crap on the way the 820 looked and needed their own variant and born was the 822.
    Some of these things can be attributed to CDMA vs GSM, contracts, etc. but when it all is said and done, Verizon has never been willing to jump in with WP. They haven't been willing to train their employees, or pay the money to get the best phones first from any manufacturer.
    They did get us the GDR2 update quicker than AT&T I will give them that, but then again AT&T took a crap before releasing that update so not really a plus for Verizon more of a negative for AT&T.
    Not all of these things are exactly fair to place blame solely on VZW I will admit, but they have not been good with WP at all IMHO.
    Yes I am angry with Verizon, deal with it lol
  • ^This
  • One word. GSM.
  • Would be nice for WPC to officially reach out to Nokia or AT&T for confirmation.
  • No kidding...
  • Lets hope it costs 200 on contract or 250 with at least 2 accessories. Or 300 with Lumia 520
  • I stream everything so im more pissed about the wireless charging. My current Lumia 920 USB port is broken so the only way I can charge it is via wireless charging. I demand all my phones have it!
  • Wireless charging is awesome. I want it internally on my 1020
  • Hahaha Att locks up exclusives so Tmo customers are screwed. Now Att screws their customers. Att is really doing wonders for consumers wanting a W8 device.
  • Lol and i thought our carriers in South Africa was bad XD
  • At least with the 925 TMo customers win. Half the upfront cost of the phone, speedy updates, less cost for equivalent service, and in many areas faster data. I've been consistently rockin' 30-35 Mbps, while my AT&T friends standing next to me have been getting around 15 Mbps.
  • My 925 isn't enough for me. I have that wimpy 16GB filled up with just apps. I have no room for any games.
  • Well, instead of selling it for $750 off contract, they could be doing this so it can be offered at a slightly lower price.
  • 16GB at this point is unaccpetable from any maker with higher res photos and 1080p recordering
  • That settles it. I will not be buying this phone. I was excited for it but I'll just upgrade my Note 2 to a Note 3. While I could live without Qi (but be upset about it), 16GB internal is no longer enough. 
    See what happens when you give exclusivity NOKIA? 
    Fuck AT&T. And you know what? Fuck Nokia, too.
  • Stay with your Samsung, we don't want you. I hardly see how this is Nokia's fault, they're only trying to expand their marketshare in the US.
  • Then don't deny other carriers acces to your phones.  I have AT&T and only keep them because they customer service reps give out discounts like candy at Halloween when you make a complaint.  I would love to have stuff like NFL mobile from Verizon.  Both Verizon and AT&T have great networks in my area (ATT is acutally much faster).  But it seems like there is a one way relationship here, I want ATT for their service and they only want to fuck me by taking a great phone and makeing it only OK.
    I guess the expectations of your customers low, and they are easy to achieve.
  • lol
  • "We"? Do you speak using the plural is majestatis? As for Nokia it may want to expand its market share but it is also using the wrong strategy.
  • I really don't see what Nokia can really do. At the marketshare they have ATT basically runs everything. I'm sure Nokia would love to get this phone to all carriers but until they move significant number they have no pull. I'm not happy about this either but maybe the price will be lower to compensate but I seriously doubt it.
  • They could not grant exclusivity to AT&T. They get a little extra money up front for doing so but it's hurting them in the long run. Hopefully Microsoft will stop with this bullshit because they're not cash-strapped.
  • Hopefully you're right but with the market share they have in the US right now they might be a little timid about ruffling AT&T's feathers.    If they have no carrier that's a death sentence in the US at least. 
  • Will you stay with AT&T? If so, why would they care?
  • He wasn't going to change anyway. It's a DroidCulter trying to lure more to the flock..
  • I'm considering switching. It's very hard. AT&T played a nice game and staggered all the upgrade dates so now my plan has 5 lines all with different contract end dates distributed over two years. So I can either not take subsidies on 4 lines until the 5th is out of contract (which ends up adding to a lot of money in subsidies that I'm giving up) or I can pay 4 early termination fees which also ends up costing a nice chunk of change. 
  • Peter Peter pumpkin eater
  • Nokia/Microsoft just need to start selling all the variants through their stores and website.  Bypass AT&T stores and websites.   If the customer wants the "base model" then they can buy it from the AT&T inventory.   If AT&T is right and the majority don't want the loaded models then AT&T looks smart and their instore sales won't suffer much.  Either way, the customer has options.
  • This is what they are hopefully trying to do by buying Nokia. Microsoft has more pull here in US, so with Nokia hardware they will (Hopefully if they are smart enough) to sell all variants in their own stores.
  • Yes and problem solved.  I wouldn't even be too hard on AT&T.  They are not being stupid or conspiring against MS by excluding Qi, etc.  At least I don't think so.  It's just a business decision.  They are looking at their customers, and the sales numbers, and picking the variant that will sell the best.  Its like selling cars.  90% of car sales are for the base model.   Like it or not that's the world.  Look inside the next BMW 3 series you see in the parking lot.  Most likely its got no Nav, and has Pleather.  
    Having said that, they also should do what car manufactutrers do and allow you to get these slow selling items by custom ordering, etc.   It seems lazy to just discount that small segment completely.
  • I'm sure AT&T is paying them for the exclusive.  If they want to sell direct then it wouldn't be exclusive, would it?  Nokia didn't have to take their money you know.
  • It's still an exclusive.  You are buying the phone and you have to activate it on AT&T networks.
    It all depends on what their motives are.  If AT&T is just trying to control inventory costs and not tie up money in items that won't sell, then this is a win win.  If AT&T is somehow trying to sabatoge sales and its a conspiracy, then yes, that idea would not fly with them.   But I'm betting on the first reason and for that reason, when MS owns Nokia, I think things will change and you will have ALL options available to you through the MS distribution chain
  • Let us hope you are correct.  I will happily walk over to the Microsoft Store to get the model I want versus the AT&T crap they are handing me.
  • Yeah, but Nokia, just like ATT is out to make money & whoever is willing to pay gets the product exclusivity
  • But its STILL an exclusive!!   AT&T makes money on their service NOT their phone sales.  In fact, I think I've read that AT&T was/is losing money on the sale of the iPhone.   Why do they do it?  Because they make it back and more on services.    AT&T never gave a crap that you could buy iPhones directly from the Apple store.  It was still an exclusive for them in the early years and it helped rebuild their customer base to what it is today.
    For Windows Phone its different.  Sales suck and AT&T is basically saying forget it Nokia, we're not going to buy and inventory all these slow selling models.  We can barely sell the ones we have (relative to the sales of Galaxy's and iPhones).  
    So fine, Microsoft can stock, sell, and support, these models with Qi and 64gb themselves.    Makes sense to me but then the question that begs to be asked;  Why doesn't Nokia do it now?  Probably for the same reasons AT&T doesn't want to do it .  They know it wouldn't generate strong enough profits to warrant the effort. So maybe blame Nokia more than AT&T.   
    Sales and marketing in the USA is a bit unique.  What works elsewhere often doesn't work here.  We have to give AT&T some slack.  They are very successful.  They obviously know how to run a phone company      
  • Hope its 32gb for uk even so with the sd 64gb id still go for it
  • accoording toi the latest reports, UK will be getting a 32GB version, likely a 64GB model. The networks will more than likely not sell the 64GB version though.
  • Fantastic 32gb is what i was wanting at least i mean 16gb alone is a big no but with sd is still good thanks for the tip dude what about price for sim free unlocked or is that not yet known?
  • FAIL.
  • OMG. It keeps getting worse. I was hoping for at least 32GB internal plus add my 64GB card. Fuck att. WTF is going on? At this point it has to boil down to price. They probably want to sell this at an affordable price.
  • That's what the 1320 is for. If att isn't getting it they should. This would fix the problem
  • With Apple iPhone you have choice. There appears to be no choice here. ATT could at least have two models available like they do with the 8x.
  • Yeah, because that's all ATT want to sell anyway (iphone)! call there 800#; what's the first & only thing you hear? "Get the latest iphone". Login to your account, click on one of you lines to check eligibility and what phone shows up as eligible for discount or your are able to upgrade to? (iphone). I've told the reps about this directly, but there's nothing they can do. It's simple, iphone is their priority and they're going to do what it takes to get customer to buy it......This means aggravating customers enough to make them switch platforms; but I'm not falling for it!!! This is anther reason MS need to produce the surface phone and sell it in their stores or there retail chains like BestBuy, Fry's, etc.
  • It's crap like this that hurts WP...
  • In US, yes. Market that in the end is small for Windows Phone. 
  • This is a FAIL unless they are going to give it out for free on contract.
  • Why give customers more, when you can give them the minimum and increase profits? Pretty sure that's AT&Ts motto. For all the complaints here about AT&T, people keep forking over money to them every month, while bitching about it. Why should they change?
  • Increasing profits is probably pretty high on the list of any business.
  • Of course it is. The first part of that sentence often isn't. But I think it is for AT&T, since the business model rewards behavior that keeps the customer only happy enough to tie themselves to a contract every two year, no matter how much they bitch and moan inbetween. Once someone buys that 16GB phone, even though they REALLY wanted a 32GB but it wasn't available, they're stuck for 2 years anyway. So AT&T has no reason to do anything but satisfy the bare minimum need.
  • I would switch carriers if we had T-mobile in SoDak, its Verizon and AT&T here and I won't go CDMA
  • Verizon is no longer cdma. At least for the smartphones.
  • Actually, they still are a CDMA network.  How do you think calls are made on any device, and how can they have a 3G EVDO data network besides 4G LTE?
  • Only reason would be to sell this cheaper than the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 that has 32GB for $299 (2yr Contract). Shame though, I can't go back to anything smaller than a 32GB.
  • Honestly not a big deal to me. It has sd support. Which is great for all those photos and music. Plus SkyDrive . I don't see he big deal imo
  • Music, apps and podcasts
  • SD cards can't store apps tho right? Just media stuff?
  • You cannot install apps to SD. The SD card would only be good for music, videos, and pictures.
  • Well on the Nokia page it says that wireless charging is on board so I don't know if it's talking about the att model so much the international one
  • If you look closely at the pictures on the Nokia website for the 1520, you will notice the back of one of the phones has wireless contacts for the charging shell.
  • Unless they offer it for $199 on contract, it will fail miserably. I am hoping for Microsoft to sell the 32GB with build int wireless charging variant in their stores otherwise I am buying international version and abandoning AT&T.
  • That sucks! Now I'm sticking with the 1020!
  • I bet they put micro SD cards next to the phone lol
  • ^This.....right along side the charging shell.
  • So Nokia announced with 32gb or not?  Would be odd they would specifically say 32 gb yet ATT site says 16gb. 
  • I'm wondering if the international version will work with the AT&T network? Anyone know?
  • Sd cards will make up for it, I myself have the 1020, if I could have had 16gig and expandable would have been better really
  • I noticed also on the att site that it says amoled screen, I thought it was ips-lcd. Wtf.
  • Bullshit!
  • The world isn't ending, priced lower I'm sure, wireless cover will be an accessory and SD cards currently at 64gig are available, soon to be 128gb, all is well people, we can still live a normal life....
  • I think its time to finally switch. Damn you, AT&T!
  • Ok, I was pissed about not getting Qi charging, very upset about it having 16Gig of storage instead of 32Gig and if it is true about it having an AMOLED screen instead of LCD then I will not be getting it!! Damn i was so excited about this phone and AT&T just keeps crapping on my parade!!! I guess my 920 will just have to last for a while longer. Plus, I'll have some extra Christmas cash on hand.
  • Isn't it expandable? Then wtf is the problem, if it was 32gb wit no SD then it will be ok I.e. 1020/920 u have the option to have 80gigs now Q1 is another issue this should be standard in all high end Lumias 9xx and better
  • Nokia announced it to have 32GB internal with expandable storage AND wireless charging. That was ingrained in our heads on day one. Now the phone is being effectively gimped by AT&T by it being 16GB and NO wireless charging. The only saving grace could be a low price point. Maybe that's what their aiming for.
  • it wouldnt be a problem if apps can be installed in sd card but 16 GB of onboard storage for apps only sucks unless they fix it.
  • And people wonder why Google is able to sell a Nexus 5 price point half of this off contract and no carrier branding. MS seriously needs to take note for the future success of WP.
  • I'm not usually one for conspiricy theory but I swear carriers do this in order to force us to store more in the cloud and use more data.
  • While also stripping out DataSense. Hmmmm....
  • An excellent time for T-Mobile to get this with Qi and 32GB. BOOM!
  • When is this phone supposed to drop? At this point, the only way I'm getting it is with an amazing Black Friday deal.
  • Well if the charging is out, then I'll stop to my 920 for a little while longer. Unless I can buy unlocked and unbranded one with both options.
  • Once again Nokia demonstrates why it is a dinosaur in the smartphone industry!
  • Kyocera may be able to do better at this point.
  • Samsung does this every roll out and no one calls them a dinosaur.  I think this is a typo as the US will get it first and not the rest of the world.  They also never stated an international and american version. When had Nokia ever done this with any Lumia device.  They usually change the number slightly.
  • I can't verify if it's a typo or not. But I have a L920 with wireless charging and 32gb of storage, and upgrading to a six inch phone that only has 16 GB of storage and requires a charging cover for wireless charging is going backwards. What makes Nokia a dinosaur is the fact that in the spec war everyone else is increasing their specs while Nokia is giving you the minimum. If the specs are what they say this phone will stay on the shelves.
  • Man I'm getting really tired of ATT! wht about the international 1520? I'll be looking into that one.
  • So why is everyone complaining? I would love to have an SD card on my 1020. I also wouldn't care if onboard storage was reduced to 16 + SD card support.
  • Everyone is complaining because of AT&T's tactics. They take a great phone, slice it and dice it and give us something that looks recycled. And on top, they will probably charge us the same off contract price.
  • Wow, that phone sounds less and less appealing. My 32gb was down to 9gb, so I uninstalled a few games and a handful of photo apps to free up a few extra GB. I don't like being low on storage, and 16gb is just not enough these days
  • This phone DOES have external SD card storage though, so it's not as crucial. But disappointing nevertheless.
  • F this! 32gb is a minimum. And I won't buy another phone without built in Qi. I'll stay happy with my 920
  • My thoughts exactly as far as upgrading from my 920. I was looking forward to the 1520 but not with the AT&T's specs. I hope WP suceeds in the USA but Nokia and AT&T are not helping the cause with this exclusive. I don't see anyone jumping from their current carrier to AT&T for a phone that I consider to already be a "little sister" to the international phone.
  • It's probably a typo.
  • Going Verizon next, especially since they extended their NFL mobile contract.
  • Done with them one contract and done.stuck with them for another year then done. Not buying less storage and no qi. F U at&t.
  • Jeez, with 16GB and expandable to 64GB, that's more than enough. You want more, get a tablet and sync. Even better, control yourself.
  • As for the wireless charging...yeah, F AT&T.
  • The Nokia US page has the 1520 listed at 16GB while the Nokia UK page has the 1520 listed at 32GB. Neither site has a wireless charging cover as an accessory and both label the device as "Wireless Charging: Yes" whereas the Lumia 925 has "Wireless Charging: Yes, with accessory cover"
    Really hoping that all Lumia 1520 are wireless charging built in. Ridiculous to have a shell for wireless charging. Makes the phone look dumb as **** in my opinion.
  • you're right....looks like it does have in-built wireless charging....just the memory is only 16GB
  • That will do me fine! Qi is great, love it on my 920. I'll just stick a 32GB SD card in there. Sorted
  • I expect nothing less for carriers to only have the 16 Gb option, and if they do have the 32Gb option it would be at least $100 more expensive.  I'm surprised that so many people don't get this.  Less internal space means a higher chance at you will use cloud storage.  More cloud storage = more bandwidth use = more $$ for the carriers.  This is the exact reason why phones with micro SD card storage and far and few between these days.
  • Hmm my Lumia 920 from AT&T has 32GB storage and it didn't cost more because of that.
  • Qi charging is a real miss....
  • Maybe T-Mobile will get the good one this time around.
  • That does it for me, my used memory on my phone is taken mainly by apps/games, about 75%, the rest, music photos etc... As I usually stream my music over WiFi at work. 64 GB memory card doesn't do much for me.
  • I really need to go back to Verizon the last 2 years I've been on at&t nothing but disappointments
  • It's potentially 87GB of storage. What's wrong with that?
  • Internal storage is for apps and games, SD cards for files. So you're left with only 16GB of storage for apps and games.
  • I stand corrected.
  • Wtf att is really pushing it. first wireless charging now you cutting the memory too. If Verizon comes with its own version like a 5.5inch with all the stuff att cut, I'm switching. I can't deal wit that bullshit.smh 16gb internal is for lower end 32gb high wats the prob.
  • Long live Verizon! Despite VZ's lateness of updates, now AT&FT holds that title.
  • I really don't understand Nokia,they keep launching in the US market new  devices on att even though they get f@&&@d in the ass by this carrier,they want a diffrent version of the device and afterwards they don't promote them,they recommend androids or iphone ,they are wasting their efforts to get into a market that wasn't favorable to them even in the presmartphone era ,when they have europe and asia as a huge potential market
  • AT&T is quickly talking me out of upgrading my 920.
  • Wow! Smh! I'm tired of these companies putting only 16GB in phones.
  • Also, the AT&T version will have dual 3" screens instead of one 6" screen and run Windows Mobile 6.5 on one and Symbian on the other. Each OS gets 8 GB and they do a death match every bootcycle to determine who gets the SD card.
  • LOL...I would not put it past AT&T.
  • LMAO
  • I am not too thrilled with AT&T, Microsoft, or Nokia. What kind of deal did Nokia sign with AT&T to make their phones exclusive? Why not break the contract? Why did AT&T neuter an awesome phone? Why can't Microsoft sell the international phone through their website and stores? Seems like all three want to fail. Switching to t-mobile next time with a Rogers pentaband phone. The muckups are coming very fast now. Still smh knowing 3 of 4 carriers in the US won't have new phones for the holidays.
  • Well, so much for that.
  • sd card slot in the 1520 makes this thread laughable.
  • I know. But it's predictable. People have to find something to whine about now that the GDR3 and Nokia World are over. It's been like this forever. In January, i predict it will be "where the f*ck is my 8.1 update".
  • You cannot install apps to SD. The SD card would only be good for music, videos, and pictures.
  • While they are at it can they remove the 20MP camera and replace it with an 8MP one. Who needs all the MP's anyway.
  • Not hard to believe, its greed. Why include that when they can sell you the plate that attaches and they know 16 isn't enough so you HAVE to buy SD. Come one really you had to ask lol
  • This helps keep the price lower and sell more to the widest customer base. Usually price per GB is cheaper via microSD. If it had 32GB, some will complain that it's not 64GB while some others won't like the price. If it had 64GB, everyone will complain it's too expensive. I'm fine with 16GB with option for 64GB microSD expansion.
  • You cannot install apps to SD. The SD card would only be good for music, videos, and pictures.
  • I know. But how much memory are you using for apps? I got tons of apps but it's still well below 8GB. If you are the type that consumes countless apps (particularly the big games), I suppose you might go above 16GB eventually. But will 32GB be enough then? Probably not because you will hit that eventually also. So ATT/Nokia has to draw a line somewhere. Truth is 16GB is enough for most user's apps. And there's an argument that can be made for people like me who don't use all that much memory at all. Why should I pay for 32GB or 64GB of built-in memory when I don't need them?
  • My 928, 32gb is nearly full. All of that is apps except about 2gb of music and the system items.
  • Expandable storage is only good for music and videos. Not apps.
  • Really AT&T?
  • At least they have expandable memory as an option. I'm pretty sure whatever variant T-Mobile gets in a year won't even consider it.
  • Thank god im not on AT &T
  • 16 gigs and no wireless charging.Very disappointing. I was using a 16gig Titan before my upgrade to the 1020 and as most of you know, you can eat through that in no time. As a matter of fact I even devour the 32gigs in my 1020 and find myself deleting apps, games and pics to make room. I know that there is expandable memory bit this still a let down.
    It makes me wonder if ATT would so callously cannibalize an Android device like this. On one hand I can understand if omitting the witless charging and reducing memory keeps cost down so that it can be offered at a more attractive price, because face it, the higher priced Windows Devices just aren't selling as desired here in the States. So though foe we enthusiasts who know and love the platform, those particular specs are a big draw and we would make the purchase almost regardless of the high price. The general public who is less enamored with a Windows Phone may need that lower price to make it a little more attractive especially given the specs and off contract price of over $700 its likely that it would be offered subsidized at at least $299. That price was a sore point for the 1020 and it didn't fair too well initially due to the price.
    Finally we all know that the Sales Associates need to step up their game and push Windows Phone and know its feature's and advantages over the competition. At any rate the 1520 still looks great though I was impressed with its thinned WITH the witless charging and pleased with the 32gig storage. I still want it, but it has lost a couple of bragging points. Microsoft needs a new premier partner.:-)
  • I love my 1020 a little bit more today
  • 'Merica.
  • Its not just "Merica" its service providers in general. How man Euro customers been shafted be the cell provider on Lumia phones with limited storage options.
  • I have no idea, I'm Asian. (Not ethnically)
  • Was waiting out my upgrade for this, but this might be a deal breaker for me.
  • Haha, this is damn hilarious.
  • So At&T has managed to slaughter what should've been a pretty cool phone? Ugh...
  • I just gave this quite a bit of consideration, because I would really need the bigger screen for my sharepoint forms...
    Can I deal with 16 GB in phone storage and a SD card to expand it?
    Can I deal without wireless charging built in?
    Yes, but only if the flip cover they showed has wireless capability. I will not put on an ugly hardshell. Before doing that, I will have to do without Qi charging.
    Am I willing to pay a dime more than $199 on contract/with upgrade for a stripped down AT&T version of the Lumia 1520? Absolutely not.
    All I hope now is that AT&T at least gets the pricing right and gets it out there fast.  Pricing it too high and making the ones who are willing to compromise wait for this phone for weeks and weeks will only set it up to fail.
    At least I will simply skip this one if it isn't available by mid November at the latest, and by that I mean ready to be picked up in stores.
    Oh, and BTW... spell checking does not support IE 11..... Might wanna get this fixed :) 
  • N
    ow if only more people put thought like this into things before responding quickly
  • As long as the phone is cheaper Im not worried. BUT... can we install aps on the SD card??? If not, then yeah this would be a huge issue for me. I don have much music, apps or games on my 920 and I use about 12.43GB with 16.69GB free. If we can install aps on the SD then I dont care about this at all.
  • I'm shocked this phone has a microSD slot because it looks to have the same build as the 920 and 1020. That's impressive.
  • why are they so lame?    this is just like the 925.   If you want to pretend you're selling a high end phone, then why cripple it with 16gb??     Many of your customers will not be happy at that! and in the end what really is the price spread between 16gb and 32gb.   Memory prices are cheap and the space involved on the pcb is likely minimal.    Given both the 1520 and 925 have 32gb variants it certainly is possible.   So in the end for what is likely a fairly minor price difference AT&T and T-Mobile screws their customers by not allowing the choice.
  • I'm I reading the specs right? It also says amoled display.
  • I know! That's the deal breaker for me. No Qi and only 16Gig ticked me off but I could probably live with it but not with AMOLED!! Sorry Nokia that AT&T ruined your kickass phone!!
  • There must a typo. The reveal stated LCD.
  • That's the one thing that gets me excited haha
  • Although a citizen in Europe, I support the general sentiment here that for the 1520 it is plainly mean and preposterous that only a 16 gb 1520 is given instead of 32 gb if the rumours are true. It shows that AT&T would have completely no idea of the devices and what they are capable of and only have dollar sign's shinging off their eyes. If it does turn out to be true I would suggest a petition. Would WPCentral consider starting one?
  • First you guys cried for external storage and when you got it, now you are crying for internal storage. Oh you guys will never stop whining.
  • Yeah I'm not understanding the logic behind that either. The wireless charging is one thing but people in here going apeshit about something that has expanded storage
  • I get it, you can't install apps and games to the SD card.
  • 16 gigs of apps? Really?
  • My L920 has 24GB of apps and games, heck some games take up 500MB +. It's easy to find enough apps to fill up 16GB (14GB available).
  • Yes I'm very aware of games taking up to a GB of memory. I'm also very well that I don't keep games on it when I'm done. On average a casual game wont take up more 50 - 70 Mb of memory. I'm sorry I don't spend that much time on any phone. If I want heavy games to play that's what tablets are for. With the 26 games I have countless apps and maybe 10 13 albums of music, I still have half my memory on my 920. Of course I would have 32 GB argument, but with the expandable memory on the 1520, that point is, well pointless. Iono I got better things than to worry about 16 GB loss. I never even filled my 16 GB on my One X
  • Sometimes I wonder the logic why you can't install apps I memory card. Must be takes too much ram or rom to read from card which slows usability, but then again how is it that you can store music and play from it?
  • Maybe because the international version has 32 gb AND external storage.
  • Announce a awesome phone, and then try to sell a stripped down version.  I went from buying, to passing in less than 24hrs.
  • exactly this^^
  • I prefer expandable storage. Wireless charging is nice but not a deal breaker
  • Yes, expandable storage is nice, but you can't use it to store your apps and games on it - files only.
  • I can feel the animosity at At&t all the way out here, just glad carriers this is side of the pond haven't become parents going schitzo (yet)
  • Oh, the irony.  I see this and it reminds me of all the people complaining about the specs of the 8XT and Ativ S neo.  Sorry but Nokia and AT&T have lot of blame to take here.
  • Way to fuck it up AT&T
  • I was kind of disappointed, but then I noticed that it had an expansion slot.  Sure I'm a bit bummed out that they didn't include 32 gigs of onboard storage, but at least it has it.
  • Simply a case of AT&T wanting to increase profit... Sad they have that much influence over products they keep getting exclusive deals on...
  • Lol maybe it will only be $99 on contract
  • This exclusivity deal could be the worst yet (and i say that as an ATT user).
    Whatever ATT is paying them for the exclusive, nokia and ATT are losing in sales based on removing things people want.
    You really have to wonder how the bean counters come to these deals on paper.
    You pay for an exclusive, then you ruin it so less people buy it.  I'm no financial genius, that's for sure, it's just i can't see how this is positive for any party involved.
    Let's hope for that 5 inch verizon version.
  • Yeah I was going to pick this up for business line but think I'll pass and get the International version instead. Then the Verizon variant for my personal line.
  • You know, none of this is surprising. If in fact al of this is true, no wireless charging, only 16GB and Amoled instead of LCD, I will also be changing my mind and will not buy it either. As far as the wireless charging, I'm fine with that. I don't use it. But I'm not fine with AT&T screwing us even more than the already do. I'm not fine with them randomly changing whatever they want whenever they want. They just did this with Ad sense too. The 16GB is a problem because we can't install apps and games to the SD card. And I would would prefer the LCD screen over the AMOLED. At this point, might as well buy a 1320, you know, if it was even available to us. 
    As far as everyone saying what does it matter about the 16GB, it does, remember everyone having all those other storage issues, remember the fact that we can't install to the SD card, It is a big deal. As far as the people saying it's OK since it might mean a cheaper phone, really? Tell me when AT&T has ever cut costs and then passed that saving onto the consumers. Give me a break. It will never happen. I was willing to pay the 300 on contract for this phone, if all these things have indeed been stripped from it, I won't pay 200 for it. 16GB and high end do not go together. Ad even if none of tis mattered, it's the principle of it all. keep supporting AT&T when they shit on you, they will keep shitting on you.
    I think this whole week has been a disaster actually. I think the only positive that came out of it was the app announcements and yes they will go a long way in changing perception.Other than that, the 2520 is beautiful and capable but will see limited sales due to the price and being an RT product. The 1320 is not available in the US. The 1520 is amazing (was) but is being violated by AT&T. It will be expensive, has a 6" screen which relegates it to a niche product and is only available on 1 carrier. I find it astounding that they could go into this holiday season which is an important 1 for them and only have 1 new phone on 1 carrier and have that phone be an expensive 6" niche product. Complete fail to me on every level and honestly the 1st time I have ever been disappointed at Nokia
  • Everything is just bad to you eh
    Well on your latter point,I'm pretty sure we'll get another nokia verizon phone and maybe t mobile before Xmas. There were so many leaks of so many phones starting back last June that it's improbable otherwise. I just don't think these will be world phones. They'll be variants.
  • No not everything is bad, just this situation. It may seem negative but tell me where I am wrong. The 2520 is awesome but it’s not going to sell in the millions. The price and the fact that it's RT will assure that. (I still think RT get’s a raw deal and an undeserved bad rap from the press) But it is an issue. The 1520 is not going to sell in big #'s. May not even sell better than the 1020 because of it's size and the fact that it is only on 1 carrier. The 920 and it’s variants aren't selling anymore, they are old technology at this point. So right now we have the 520 which seems like it's doing great, and the new 1520 which is a niche product. At this point, based on the phones we know will be on the market and based on the limited carriers they will be on, I think they did a horrible job in preparing for what will be an important holiday season. I don't see how it can be viewed any other way.
    I hope you are right, I hope they release more phones and I hope they do it soon. (before black Friday) I also hope they release new phones on all carriers, including  AT&T that will appeal to the average person. That would be the follow up to the 920 etc. 4-5 inch screens, 1080p, you know, the new flagships. But as of right now, this looks like it could be a really bad 4th quarter based on what we currently know. Very disappointing because I really think they are on the Verge of capturing some real momentum here. This is the chance we have been waiting for and based on what we know now, it looks like they may blow it. By the way, looking at this from the US market mostly.
  • Really hope this isn't the case for us Canadians too.. This would be a DISASTER. Just checked my storage on my 920 and I have 15GB used on apps alone. With another 1.9GB taken up by "system" files. And I even had to remove some of the bigger games to make space for the ones I play more often. If you could install apps on the storage card this would be a non-issue but you can't. I misunderstood this concept when I bought my mom the 8GB HTC 8S with a memory card. She used up her entire storage after 20 apps. She can't even download the GDR2 update because she'd have to remove all her apps. 16GB is barely usable based on today's standards.
  • This is a money grab pure and simple. Limit the onboard memory to force users to use the cloud and then whack them over the head with extra charges for data overages. The differences in memory cost is negligable so no way this move was made to hit a lower price point. AT&T the premier partner is going back to their Premier asshole screw the customer ways that they used to do when they ripped features out of the already limited Windows Mobile platform of old. BOO AT&T!!!!!
  • Assuming this isn't a typo, it often feels like AT&T is actively trying to sabotage Windows Phone.
  • There crazy if they are going to charge the same price as those that are 32GB and have built in wireless charging.
  • Since AT&T is picking up almost all of the tab for these phones (since nobody pays the actual price for them), they want to buy the cheapest phones possible that they think they can offload in return for 2-year contracts. Not exactly brain surgery to figure that out.
    If people paid for the phones, they'd want to sell the most attractive phones with the largest profit margin. But that's not how their business model works.
  • AT&T needs to keep the price down. I think that's why they're getting rid of wireless charging and the 32 GB option. Mabye these changes were needed to keep the on-contract price at $200, because I bet the $300 on-contract price of the 1020 didn't go so well. 
  • The problem is the memory is probably a 3 cents difference per phone for them. Why screw us consumers over?
  • I think this also. I don't think they sell many of ANY phone at 299.
    Still should have 32GB though.
  • I really don't get there logic with this memory. It costs about nothing for these companies to include 16 or 32gb. The price of memory is so low right now. They could offer this phone at 199 on contract with 32gb and probably lose nothing at all. My first phone with ATT and they make me not want to upgrade and stay with them.
  • Crazy
  • Does anybody know why the 1520 will use nanosim instead of microsim? are they the same? or is that a typo?
  • The new standard is nanosim. You can still cut your microsim down to a nano sim. There are special cutter available at amazon.
  • Do AT&T have a customer Focus Group. They suck on making choice for their customer. Fine they only want to sell 16 GB models no problem I think microsoft should sell the full blown model in their stores 32GIG and Wireless Charging built in. That would give us the customer a Choice. I hope some one from Nokia and Microsoft is following this conversation
  • That's why these exclusive agreements are horrible for Windows Phone and Nokia!
  • They removed wireless charging and now reduced the memory? I was all excited to get one but not now...
  • I'm not American and I'm not in the US...but honestly, given the amount of problems AT&T seems to give, if I were I would have switched carrier long ago... Perhaps if customers start leaving AT&T and move to other more supportive carrier, they'll stop that... (Well, I would also not buy phones on contract, but that's another story...)
  • I swear its because they want us to use their online services. SkyDrive, Xbox music, Nokia music. That would be fine on unlimited data plans, but here in Australia cellular data is soo over priced.
  • Better be 99 on contract
  • The carriers just want to Microsoft fail in Mobile. Right now they dont care because they have something else that sales. I hope they can deploy their own infrastructure that can replace the carriers and give them the finger.
  • Time to wait and see what Nokia "Illusionist" is....
  • Its a electronic Stylus to be used with the 1520 and the Nokia Tablet
  • Yep... I was going to upgrade my 920 to this, but between the 16GB of storage and the loss of Qi charging in the device, I'll wait until the 8.1 Devices come out. We need more than the 32GB of storage if there is no expandibility. 16GB is not enough for all of the apps to live on the device even if you move your pictures, music, videos, and docs to the storage card. If Verizon announces a 929 with 64GB of storage, I'll drop AT&T day 1.
  • I was ready to throw money at them for this phone. Now, I'll wait and see what the summer brings.
  • Just buy a international version, you get more functions and you are not getting ripped off by att... International version might even get updates faster that att, there's just no reason to stay with att at all
  • Sure thing-everybody has $750 sitting around to spend on a cell phone. Especially when US carriers give no discounts for bringing your own phone.
  • As far as I'm concerned it has yet to be established that these phones have fixed the SD card issues, at least when it comes to music. Even now, the only music playlists I can store are in primary memory. Maybe others have had more success but I would never buy a windows phone placing total reliance on its SD card until it is clear that all of the complaints have been resolved. Besides, even though a phone this size is for a niche market, this phone is the windows phone statement that addresses the clear advantage in specs available on high end Android phones when compared to windows counterparts. ANY limitation in the originally advertised specs significantly limits the psychological impact of adding this to the windows phone lineup. AT&T may have its reasons but Nokia and eventually Microsoft, assuming the deal goes through, will pay a price in terms of public perception for letting the carrier have its way on this issue. Poor thinking and lack of vision are compromising the future of windows phone. Not sure why they can't see that "good enough" won't cut it in light of the competitive challenges they face. No way I believe that this was a deal killer in Nokia's negotiations with AT&T.
  • Considering that MS did not fix the "music on SD card" issue in Windows 8.1 for their own Surface RT and Pro tablets, I wouldn't hold my breath on them fixing it in WP8
  • Disappointing to find that out.  Hard to have confidence moving from legacy windows 7 computers if microsoft management thinks its new devices don't need to present a seamless music experience.  It started with ditching zune before xbox was ready for prime time.  Can they really be dense enough to think they are going to hang with Apple and Google when they tolerate second rate results like that?  Aside from windows phone I have not moved to Windows 8 and I am not alone.  I am afraid I will lose more than I gain from the transition.   
  • I'm glad that it will at least have a micro SD slot.
  • Doesn't matter if you have a SD. 16 is way too less. Games like asphalt and halo take away 4GB each.
  • I just checked on the UK and US nokia sites, and they are identical on the charging fronts - they both say 'wireless charging - yes'. If it wasn't built in it would say 'yes-with wireless charging cover'. So half of that topic went into the sewer. The other one for the capacity is ridiculous - with music and pictures stored to the SD 16Gb is plenty for apps
  • Well the MS Store and AT&T site still says "optional wireless charging". They even show the charge cover on the one picture attached to the phone.
  • Bought my Lumia 925 for 499.00 unlocked. I decide where my money goes.
  • WTH is Nokia or Microsoft thinking making AT&T a "premier" partner? They suck.
  • I will never buy phones with contract,I have 5 lines, im in the process of buying a 920 on eBay...yes im still rocking my 90O
    I don't like the att app btw!!
    The 1520 is a BEAST!!
  • Too clear up the air with how expensive AT&T is, let's do some math.  I will be using StraightTalk as the competitor since they run on AT&T's network with LTE access as well as giving a nice discout for purchasing more months of service at a time.  The AT&T plan will use 3GB of data since 300MB is no where near enough for most users.  Taxes and other fees will not be included in the calculations.
    AT&T - 450 Nationwide Minutes + 3GB of Data + Unlimited Messaging = $40 + $30 + $20 = $90 per month
    Now add in a phone, let's go with a high-end phone so $200 upfront charge and calculate the total charge over a 24-month period, or the life of a standard contract without an early upgrade.
    $200 + $90*24 = $2360 over 24 months exluding taxes and fees
    StraightTalk - Unlimited Talk, Text, and Web (2.5GB of LTE access) = $45 per month or $495 per 12 months if purchased upfront which calculates to $41.25 per month
    Now add in a phone, say $500 but could go up to $700, a SIM card which is $7, and calculate over a 24-month period to have the same life span as AT&T.
    $500 + $7 + $41.25*24 = $1497 over 24 months to $1697 over 24 months excluding taxes and fees
    The savings is equal to $863 to $663 over 24 months.
  • Looks great. But really what is the real world scenario of how well that service would work? I had a friend talking about how awesome his Metropcs service was paying like 55 dollars, 3G or what not. But download speeds were below 1Mbs. I have aio wireless. On 4G(HSPA+) you get up to 4Mbps while on LTE the highest you get is 8Mbps. They're owned by AT&T. I can't imagine Straightalk (owned by Walmart, correct?) providing better service. What other services have you had? Can you compare those to your straightalk? Are they better? Worse? I know it uses AT&T MVNO, but that doesn't mean it's an equally good service as shown by aio wireless that also runs on their network with limitations on DATA DL Speeds.
  • Yea looks great if you have only one line. No savings when you have a 4 line family plan. I would never pay full price for a phone- especially since it will only get used 2 years max and be worthless.
  • This is why the carrier setup in the U.S. is so 'effed up. U.S. buyers are so used to the subsidized prices that ATT's goal is clearly to reduce the price of the hardware so it can offer it at a lower subsidized price. I just want to know where I can import an unlocked 1520 with 32GB and Qi to the U.S. from and use it on ATT or Verizon....
  • Who wants to buy a giant low spec phone? I can't believe Nokia actually believes they can stay relevant producing these low spec devices.
  • Come on now. No Qi and 16GB with SD Card doesn't equal low spec.
  • It does when I bought a 32gb with qi charging a year ago. So a year later should the high end phones offer less or more?... Less specs than last years l920 does not put the 1520 in the same high end catagorie. Sure it has 1080p but I had a 32gb iPhone 4s three years ago
  • 2gb of ram and quad core buddy
  • So they put a bad ass motor with a weak transmission awesome
  • 2gb if ram and quad core is also old news
  • For android because it needs it. But for windows phone this is more than enough. If this phone isn't high end to you then you have too high of expectations!
  • Agreed^ But I think he's probably alluding to "64 bit" tech. For the average user, RAM is where it's at. It's what makes multitasking and apps run much faster.  
  • With only 16 GB of onboard storage? Not high end to me when my 920 came with 32gb and built in qi!
  • Att is a joke
  • AT&T is lame. It's rather sad.
  • Seems there's no winning until WP catches up to Apple iPhone status. WP users in the US will continue to get shit on. God knows how long that would be. If MS does it right, like what they have done with the XBOX, I believe they'll win. Remember MS is in the Metro/wp for the long haul. Win or lose, I'm also in all the way. MS's has caught me by the hook. That said, I'm struggling whether I'm ready for the 1520. I doubted the 920 but at the end I own one. Lol!
  • Ok...... I really want the L1520 but fuck att i will use my card to buy a Factory unlocked phone with 32GB and wireless charging And be done with it
    Anyone who don't have the money start saving for it, you still have more than a month to save for it. Att can go to hell.
  • Amen to that!!! See you on the other side
  • More than a month?
  • Looks like I will stick with my 1020 now. As much as I wanted to upgrade to the 1520, I'm done getting penalized by AT&T for now being an iFan! No Qi + Less storage= No upgrade for me!
  • If the 1520 was to originally have built in qi wireless charging and 32gb memory built in, then "if" AT&T decided to omit the the qi charging and less 16gb from 32gb, all I see is this may be causing Nokia to manufacture double the handsets to cater directly for one carrier. Think about each color the phone is to be offered in, now each color or (variant) will have to be produced once again, only with these so called AT&T variants of the 1520. Either Nokia had planned to do this beforehand, but if not, doing this to please one carrier would seem to drive up the cost of manufacturing the handsets, and in turn, a not so good business decision for Nokia. Im just speculating if this were the case of Nokia agreeing so with AT&T, for all I know, Nokia may very well had planned to do this already, as well with other carriers worldwide.
  • The blame game really doesn't matter.  Wait until the sites with no love for windows phone anyway pick up on this.  Potential public relations disaster over what was always going to be a niche phone anyway.  16 GB phones and 32 GB tablets.  Really Nokia?
  • How is Qi pronounced? Is it like 'key' or 'kai' or 'Q I'???
  • I was ready to preorder on day one and upgrade my 920 but with the loss of wireless charging built in and the ridiculous 16GB ATT can forget it now. I am an app junkie and right now I have 23GB of space taken up by apps on my 920. Any less than 32 on a high-end phone is ludicrous. They cant hope to compete with Android in the US when ATT keeps crippling WP that they carry.
  • Amen
  • We here in the USA need to just buy unlocked phones. These device cannibalizations, expensive contracts, and pointlessly complicated billing by the U.S. carriers are ridiculous: It's enough already. Suck it up and pay what these smartphones really cost.
  • How does that lower the rate the carriers charge?
  • Why don't you all do what the NSA do and hack other phones and use their minutes.
    Simple :)
  • Um, what?
  • AT&T
    The Company we all love to HATE!!!
  • Well then...this really puts a damper on me owning a 1520 on AT&T! After waiting so long for a large screen high-end Windows phone...this $hit!!! Not pleased with this, I think I'll wait it out with my two L920s!
  • .....oh no. ..that ain't good
  • This blows. I was really excited about this phone, totally ready to lay out full price, but each bit of news is eroding my confidence. What next? Downgrade the camera? I may look at alternatives.
  • Just add to the list why I'll NEVER go to at&t. What a shame
  • Personally I wouldn't care as long as there is a SD card slot. But that's just my opinion.
  • I was looking forward to having Q1 built in again.
  • You and be both brother. Or sister, I can't tell.
  • This is my last phone with ATT. Everything about them is devoted to screwing their customers.
  • Unless it's a precious iPhone.
  • I think this is most likely a typo as it was announced at Nokia World and the first place to even get it will be the US.  Plus when they change carriers they usually change the number slightly. 920 / 928.  I think the typo was made on the nokia site and just got compounded to the at&t site.  We don't know until we actually get a real available spec page as the MSFT site also states 2.3 GHz instead of 2.2.  It's all sorts of messed up right now.  Poor website roll out.
  • Having expandable storage is not a saving grace. That was already expected. This and no wireless built in!? Eat a dump AT&T!
  • Maybe they are just trying to save on the weight of the phone.
  • There is a reason for this, folks. If you look at iPhone, 16GB is way more popular than any other iPhone model by a wide margin. Here is a link from Carphone Warehouse UK.
    It is not practical for a low volume handset like 1520 to have multiple SKUs in stock. That is a lot of inventory commitment.
  • They are killing me. 32 GB is a needed feature. When I make the jump to WP 8, I want 32 GB built in. I prefer native memory over expanded memory, and 32 GB would do me forever. I am not saying I would not buy a 16GB device, I have a couple GB left on my 900, so I can survive. But this just is silly. This bad boy is DESIGNED for multi-media, all Phablets are. 32 GB is practically needed for that. Just silly.
  • They are killing me. 32 GB is a needed feature. When I make the jump to WP 8, I want 32 GB built in. I prefer native memory over expanded memory, and 32 GB would do me forever. I am not saying I would not buy a 16GB device, I have a couple GB left on my 900, so I can survive. But this just is silly. This bad boy is DESIGNED for multi-media, all Phablets are. 32 GB is practically needed for that. Just silly.
  • no wireless charging just made me re think this deal. that's one of the best things about the 920.
    plus i have two in the house. one a flat and one a stand up model. i'll look at the phone when it comes out
    but it had better be all it says and more. this wil piss you off. bait and switch
  • Get over it, how much space do you need? Especially with most phones having micro sd memory?
  • Damn!!!
  • Eek! I do hope that is a typo. I personally don't need that much storage but there are standards and expectations with certain classes of devices. Supports 1080 and an only hold a movie or two after OS and "other" is silly.
  • I think it is better to have expandable memory then have a locked in memory like iPhove. It wish always nice to have wireless charging. But, it will not stop me from getting the phone. 
  • Another freaking deal breaker!!!! No wireless charger and only 16 g internal? That's disappointing Nokia. WE EXPECTED THE BEST ...FOR 299? ...WILL HAVE TO WAIT TILL OTHER service variance model! MIGHT HAVE TO JUMP SHIP FROM AT&T...they are screwing us on services already and now taken away little things that matter to the loyal customer . I hope Verizon pick it up soon ..I will be switching service if this hold truth ! :))
    Maybe switch to Samsung Note 3 all together is Nokia n ATT don't get it together! !!
  • Can video be recorded to the SD card on Nokia phones or only the internal storage?
  • No wireless charging and 16GB?!...yeah I'm holding onto my (almost) year old 920, thank you very much.
  • Why doesn't ATT do what it does with the Iphone.  A different price for 16gb 32 gb and 64gb iphone. They could offer the 1520 16gb for 99 -199 and then 1520 32gb with wireless charging from 199 to 299.
    Doesn't make sense for them to cheat their customers by leaving out these crucial features that everyone expected.
  • 16 GB for apps without "other" storage issue is not bad.
  • Looks like I'm skipping this generation again. Waiting for the flexible phones to come along.
  • Wow really att? You stupid scamming shits, what a way to push your cloud storage and to sell qi inventory. Do they know SD and cloud don't store apps? Out of 16gb only 12 available is unacceptable, better be 3mm thinner from removing qi
  • I will not be buying this phone after their hack job ...thanks.for ruining a great product att
  • If the price is not reduced, I think every ATT customer that owns (or wants to own) a Windows Phone should contact ATT to submit a formal complaint. I don't plan to buy a 1520 (I like my 1020) but I will have no problem complaining about them stripping the device but still charging full price.
  • All other high ends offer memory options 16/32/64 variants what options does the 1520? The Lumia 920 came out complete ! Att picked up a watered down version of the 1520 many here will agree but the rest of the world gets the sweet one the one Nokia intended for the world!
  • I think Nokia should just keep updating and making variants(maintaining wireless charging,camera,screen,and storage) of the L920,since it seems like it's the best phone they'll ever make.
  • The 920 has 32 GIG after the operating system and blote ware that was put on the phone we were left with 25 GIG. so far with all my music and picture and apps loaded on my 920 I only have 9 gig left. so if I had a 1520 I would have to delete stuff to put more stuff on. because you cannot load apps on the SD card only music and Photos.  So every time you take a picture you would have to quickly move it over to the SD card to take more Picture. this is a bunch of BULL AT&T.
    So with 16 GIG of internal memory
    Operating system 2.7 GIG
    other software on phone 1.3 gig
    16-4 = 12 GIG  This will be the space you have left on the phone for you to install apps and take pictures.
  • Call the Microsoft store and request that they please sell the world phone edition, 32G with Qi, unlocked at the store.  If enough of us call maybe just maybe we can convince Microsoft to sell us feature rich phones that allow us to choose our carriers.
  • AT&T strikes again! It is reprehensible when a carrier removes or reduces features in a phone from what the rest of the world gets.
  • Nokia announces the 1520 and im just waiting for the pre order link so i can get back to using windowsphone. a day later im shaking my head and will save my available upgrade on something else. Blame ATT all you want and they give you reasons to but MS is allowing this to happen. Almost a $800 phone and they actually took away features. incredible.
  • What a waste! Smh
  • Was really excited about the 1520 but now I don't know. The 920 has made me see min specs I want.
  • Lame.  It to wait 3 months past release date, go international to find the 1520 at price less than the $750, then leave AT$T returning to TMobile.
  • I have a 520 which has 8GB.  I have 5GB free and honestly, unless you download some EA apps, you'll probably not hit the full 8GB of space anyway.  I'd rather have 32GB but I'm still glad to have the micro SD card slot.