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Is Google now blocking Windows Phone from using Google Maps?

We’re not sure if this is just a temporary error or something more nefarious but Google appears to have changed something whereby Windows Phone users are now blocked when trying to access maps.google.com.

Granted, it’s not clear why you would want to use Google’s less-than-awesome mapping service through a browser, but humor us for a second. The move appears to be a continued approach to lockout all Google services from those who adopted Windows Phones. Or it’s just poor service.

We were able to verify on our Windows Phones that when going to maps.google.com we are redirected to www.google.com/m for mobile, regardless of IE10’s settings i.e. Desktop mode. Reports suggest that maps.google.co.uk still works for some folks but for us that too redirects, making this an in-motion change that is evidently occurring worldwide.

We were also able to confirm that on the iPhone users are prompted to download the Google Maps app (must be nice) but they can bypass that redirect and still successfully access maps.google.com if the user so chooses. Android users, trying various browsers, also have no problems making this a unique issue with Windows Phones only.

From a comment on this article by gmlongo:

"It is definitely on purpose.  If you change the user agent in Firefox (using User Agent Switcher) to "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows Phone 8.0; Trident/6.0; ARM; Touch; IEMobile/10.0", you get redirected to the Google home page. But if you set the user agent to "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows Phne 8.0; Trident/6.0; ARM; Touch; IEMobile/10.0" (notice I intentionally misspelled Windows Phone), the maps.google.com page comes up just fine. In other words, the only way I was able to get it to redirect is to have Windows Phone in the user agent string.  So something on Google's side is keying off the user agent for windows phone"

Google's continued assault on Windows Phone users

Google has famously proclaimed that they will not make apps for Windows Phone users to access their services and now they are evidently looking to deny any usage whatsoever. First it was their dropping of Exchange ActiveSync (EAS) occurring later this month, which will prevent users from creating new accounts on their phones and syncing Gmail contacts and calendar, and then there was the YouTube incident.

That second complaint goes back to 2011 when Microsoft alleged that Google was not allowing access to YouTube metadata to the company, preventing Microsoft from releasing a high quality YouTube app for Windows Phone. Microsoft brought up the grievance again this week because it still has not been resolved, with Microsoft going so far as to allege Google is decisively blocking a “first rate” YouTube experience on Windows Phone.

Malevolent or just idiocy?

So the big question here is this part of the continued Google attack on Windows Phone users or just shoddy programming resulting in a bad redirect? We’re not too sure at this point and we’ll have to wait a few days to see if anything changes. It does certainly seem suspect though with the current back and forth between the two internet juggernauts, it only affecting Windows Phone browsers and with Google recently being “cleared” by the FTC of any egregious anti-competitive behavior.

We suppose if you were so inclined to use Google Maps you could just go ahead and use the excellent app gMaps Pro but outside of some really unique situations, we can’t see why you would prefer it over Bing or Nokia Maps.

In conclusion, we have to ask the question: is it time to actively boycott Google? We’re assuming a lot of you have made the move off of their ad-laden services but is it time to step it up a notch and go offensive with individual anti-Google campaigns? Perhaps.

via: WMPU

Daniel Rubino
Daniel Rubino

Daniel Rubino is the Executive Editor of Windows Central, head reviewer, podcast co-host, and analyst. He has been covering Microsoft here since 2007, back when this site was called WMExperts (and later Windows Phone Central). His interests include Windows, Microsoft Surface, laptops, next-gen computing, and arguing with people on the internet.

392 Comments
  • OMFG! SHAME ON GOOGLE!! But gmaps works though...
  • Using "User Agent Switcher" app, Google Maps seems to show up on anything else other than Windows Phone agent.
  • I think it's fair as long as Microsoft forces you to use Bing and doesn't offer Google as an option. 
  • It's not as if MSFT products aren't used to access Google's in any other instance. No... nobody who uses Windows XP, Vista, 7, or 8 uses Google Chrome, youtube, or Google.com.
    Locking out Windows Phone is a sad temper tantrum denying the reality that were it not for MSFT sofwares, youtube/google would like exist in different forms.
  • Settings \ Applications \ Internet Explorer \ Advanced \ Default Search Provider : Google
  • I don't have the advanced option in Internet Explorer settings on my wp7.5 phone. What phone and version are you using?
  • I have Lumia 900 Windos 7.5 and i can set Google  .
  • I have the lumia 900 with 7.5 and I can't set to google, don't even have the advanced setting in the IE
  • My launch HTC HD7 always had the default search setting for Google or Bing.
  • Not exactly. I try it to use my friend's android, accessing http://maps.bing.com/ and it loaded properly, when we can't do otherwise. Is this fair?
  • Actually it does - I have three options on my Lumia 920: Yandex, Bing, and Google.
  • Microsoft offers Google Search in WP IE browser. It does not force you to use Bing. The hardware search button has to be Bing logically since it's a WP after all. Duh...
  • And the search button opens up the Bing app, basically.  It doesn't just go to a mobile web page.
  • As far as I remember Bing, Yahoo or whatever.com is not an option on the Android embedded search, Am I wrong?
  • it's IDIOCY! for sure..
  • If you guys wanna solve this, use the app USER AGENT SWITCHER.
    I also got redirected from maps.google.com but one changed to fake Android it worked perfectly, so shame on you Google. This is a low measure in your companys history.
  • That hurts WP in the long run, as ie10 won't be represented as it should when web devs see what browsers view their logs.
  • Blah blah
  • People use Windows phone? lol Sorry guys had to! Good luck with that.
  • -_- Get lost troll.
  • Get out of here troll! 
  • Get out of here troll
  • Yep, and a lot of delusional people miss out on it. Too bad really. 
  • Oh would you look at that, lakelucas' wit carried over all the way from The Verge.
     
    You're a clever one aren't ya? Where do you get your material from?
  • And you don't use WP because of what? Peer pressure? You're Apple cattle, always ready to line up at the trough for whatever is served up? You're an Android and Apple fan because you think having a tired and convoluted user experience is familiar and comforting? Sad troll. You obtuse piece of flotsam! WP is a superior experience!
  • Should anyone wish to complain to various people about the Trolling by lakelucas, here are the appropriate accounts on which to register your complaints.
    https://foursquare.com/lakelucas
    https://www.facebook.com/lakelucas
    https://twitter.com/lakelucas
  • Maybe if enough of us actually complain to Twitter, Facebook and Foursquare, we can get his accounts closed down.
  • Srsly guys: DON'T! FEED! THE! TROLL!
  • Normally I'd agree with you, but we have the chance to strike back at a Troll that thinks they can do this and get away with it. We can actually do something about this one. This Troll deserves it.
  • Nom nom. LOL Trolls are funny. And lonely.
  • Or if you really fancied it, you could just Troll their blog
    http://lakelucas.wordpress.com/
  • +1
  • and you have a tiny penis but hey we all have our path in life.  Good luck with that.
  • They do, in fact I again bought a  Lumia 800 since my S3 cant stop crashing (even on the newest XXELLA firmware) ........... enough said.
  • Another "Hit n Run" troll. To uninformed to stick around to back up his comment.
    really origional.
  • +10
  • I am happy I don't use any of their evil services.
     
    I know it's about principle... But still happy.
  • +1
  • +1
  • Stop using 1 or +1.
  • +1 ;]
  • Stop using 1 or +1. ;-)
  • It was difficult at first but now i just feel so great, i have stopped using Google.co.uk, i use Bing now and i use IE instead of chrome!
     
    Another tip guys if you are going to go to "any" website even if you could just type .com put it through Bing to increase the search hits! On popular sites i also only click the "ad" searches too!
     
    I will never, well except YouTube, darn YouTube, use any other Google service/product and i will never support Apple.
     
    Oh and most important point of ALL, people really need to start paying a few pounds here or there for apps! Come on we piss away money in real life, lets support devs that support Windows Phone!
     
    Microsoft FTW!
  • Let's see what Anonymous has to say about all of this. Google is going against a lot of their beliefs. =)
  • Hopefully they'll work their magic.
  • Hopefully, not even for malicious actions towards google, just a message
  • I usually never condone, but this is egregious. They need a good spanking.
  • Really.
  • Likely very little
  • I despise anonymous and their holier than thou "we make the rules" attitude... bunch of babies usually crying about nothing. Bur in this case I would like to beg them to do what the FTC should be doing... smack down google hard please.
  • Smh this is why i said office, smartglass, and xbox live games should not be shared. The only "exclusiveness" i see is being exclusively shunned
  • No doubt!!!! Lol....
  • 1
  • I simply stopped using gmaps post Nokia maps came out. But I can still be mad about google. Shitty move google. shitty move
  • Jokes on them, I could care less about gmaps. I wonder if gmaps app is working?
  • I tried using gmaps, and it sucks compared to nokia/bing maps. The app is u er slow, eats up my battery faster than the previously mentioned. My only gripe is about both company hurting their customers. Time for a compromise. Seriously, think of your customers first.
  • As far as Google is concerned, you are not a customer, you are a product! They don't like Microsoft steeling their inventory. Mapping services are only valuable to Google when the user is logged in. They don't know enough about WP users to target adds effectlively. Hence the disrespect.  
  • I know but I feel for our 8X toting brethren who don't have Nokia Maps.
  •   On Friday I wanted to get to the Bavarian Bier Cafe in Sydney's Entertainment Quarter. Nokia Maps directed me here: http://her.is/TQUQk   As it turns out, there are two Bent streets in close proximity - and this one is not in the Entertainment Quarter. So I was very confused when I got there... Google, on the other hand, showed me this spot. This is correct. Don't get me wrong, I love my Lumia and there's lots to like about WP7/8. But in many cases Google STILL has better maps, largely by virtue of having better search tech, and without access to Google I would have missed my date.   This kind of thing happens about half the time, such that if I'm going somewhere I've never been before, I have to cross-reference with Whereis and Google. I can't rely on Nokia/Bing maps alone, not yet.
  • I just tried it on my phone....worked fine.....however, was using desktop mode for the browser.  As soon as I switched to mobile mode then it didn't work!!
  • Odd, doesn't even work for me in Desktop Mode. Will be curious if that's just a caching thing and in a few hours it will change.
  • Just tried it again. .co.uk is working on desktop, but .com isn't on mine (I am in the UK, so maybe that makes a difference.  I reckon you are right though, all the google sites will do the same soon.  But I use the Nokia Maps anyway...other than YouTube I'm not really missing anything that Google has to offer me at the moment.
  • I tried both on my 920, Desktop and Mobile settings for both the US and UK sites.  Both redirected to m.google.com.  Glad I don't use it anymore.  But, the bigger issue is with other sites that use Google Maps to display their physical location.  That functionality is now blocked if someone browses to a website and wants to look where they are located if the site provides it.
  • Sad thing is they will blame wp, not google
  • maps.google.lu (i live in luxembourg) works fine for me in desktop mode.
    with mobile version however i get redirected. cleared both time history to make sure nothing is cached.
     
    edit: video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DyYYVl8x6g
    tested .co.uk and .com and it is the same
  • Daniel, I'm curious if you try .co.uk through a UK proxy if it will work while in the US.
  • I tried the .co.uk  here in US and it worked on a pc.
  • Just modify mobile IE settings to use Desktop version and .co.uk will work fine.
  • Daniel I found a consistent URL workaround. https://www.google.com/maps?ui=maps
  • This worked for me too. Looks like desktop mode only, though.
  • People are saying it's a glitch but would it be any different then ms getting fined for browser option.
  • F*ck Google.
  • x1000
  • This is really, really funny coming from MS fanbois.
    Don't get me wrong, i love many MS products, Id never switch to a Mac or a Chromebook, but pretty much anyplace where MS and G have similar services, Google's is better by leaps and bounds. The new Windows mobile OSis a very slick looking product, but you can't expect a company to bend over backwards for a company with <3% market share. Right now Windows Phone is in the company of Palm when it comes to adoption rates (which Google also did not bend over backwards for).
    Oh, and Google Maps doesnt work on your browsers because it's not a webkit browser.
  • But this used to work so its not IE its something google has actively changed, also have you used office 2013 or outlook.com lately they are superior to googles equivalent in almost every way. Regarding your MS fanboys comment unlike google Microsoft has been acting in a manner that promotes competition this whole time on all platforms even releasing Xbox smartglass for google. So don't try to ignore everything that doesn't suit your argument these recent moves by google are anti competitive... Also i apologies for any spelling errors i am typing this from my phone :)
  • If Microsoft is so open to competition, where is Office for android? That's right they only started to realize that they were missing the largest chunk of the smartphone market last year and it may be released this year sometime. Love my 822 and my GNex, but come on, they are both in it for the $. Nokia maps is great and all but not as feature rich as Google Navigation and Bing is no match for Google Now.
  • Office for android is on its way...
  • Why would you choose something you know exists and is coming to make this point? You've kind of defeated your own argument there.
  • Maybe you didn't read the article, but this isn't about Google not "bending over backwards" for Windows Phone.
    Google are going out of their way to ensure Windows Phone users get a bad experience. They are specifically targeting Windows Phone and blocking the OS from receiving the same benefits that iOS and Android devices get. Maps would work perfectly on WP if Google wasn't intentionally redirecting users to the crippled version.
  • Well.. then they probably should've bought an Android device or an iOS device.
    Google has a right to do with their free services as they please. Nobody is making you not use Bing or Nokia, nobody is forcing you to use WP. 
    I think it's hilarious that people are getting downright pissed about this. I have an Android device, I sure wouldn't expect Apple to give me iCloud access, or iTunes. Where is the superfast IE10 for Android? iOS? Why are all of Microsoft's native Android apps so awful and dated? The ship sails both ways, and if you cut a company off enough and try to slit their throats, they're eventually going to bite back. 
  • Companies are in this business to do one thing, make money. If there is money to be had the company will move that way. Google unfortunately thinks that by not allowing their services from WP8 is will some how make WP8 fail and then draw those people to android. They can still make a ton of money on advertisements which is their #1 revenue maker so they are spiting themselves right now. Someone up top in Google is a little too arrogant and believes they can affect the populairty of another OS. I hope this bites them on the ass.
  • @incrediblecub
     
    I dont know whether you noticed but they just agreed to settle regarding a government investigation over this sort of garbage. It is more of this sort of stuff that will get them a full blown anti-trust investigation out of the Justice Department. They just did agree to NOT actively block or cripple competitors through their sevices or market position. It is this sort of arrogance that will eventually end up in court in the US and EU, and it couldnt happen to a more amoral, unethical, and immature organization....
  • Google is a company that is continuously questioned for using its position to harm its competitors simply for its own gain/ Google is an excellent service, but their behaviour latelty is similar to Apple sueing Samsung all around the world. If something isn't broken, don't fix it, so why did they decide to "fix" Google Maps. IE10 is not on Android because there is no real reason to put it there. Google Chrome will always be the the best browser on Android, why waste their time building a browser when there is no profit to be made, and they will continuously encounter problems due to multiple different devices. If you don't like Microsoft's services on Android, no-on asked you to use them, Google and other third-parties will have alternatives. Google feels that because of the low user base on Windows Phone, it doesn't have to develop applications. I believe they have a point there. What I don't believe is justified is that Google, offering a free service which it gets no profit from (online) descides that it want to block Google Maps, after users could easily use it before. Google makes no profit from putting Google Maps on any service apart from reviews and promoting business in an area.
  • And Microsoft hsn't been continuously questioned for using it's position to harm it's competitors?  Pot, Kettle, Black.
  • Actually, this is untrue. There are antitrust laws that may be triggered byGoogle with this move, especially considering Google is a leader in mapping technology. Also, Microsoft's apps for Android aren't dated. They get many things, such as Photosynth, before us.
  • Microsoft 'went out of their way' to run smear campaigns against Google, lobbied against Google and publicly lobbied against Google. Karma is a cold hard b**** and Google is now showing Microsoft just how cold it can be. Sit back and watch the show. Microsoft brought this on their own users.
  • Exactly !!!!!! Google doesn't have to do a damn thing for Microsoft.
  • You do know that you sound pretty dumb now right? They don't have to do anything for MS sure... but are they allowed to actively block thier services NO! This is the issue, get back when you understand the problem.
  • Your webkit argument would make sense except for the fact that it works on desktop IE10 which is also not a webkit browser.
  • The mobile web app is WebKit only (Safari, Android browser, Chrome, etc.), so no support for the Trident-based IE. However, the desktop web app is built to be compatible with all major browsers and layout engines (including WebKit, Gecko, and Trident and possibly Presto). Desktop web app != mobile web app.
  • but you can't expect a company to bend over backwards for a company with <3% market share.
    How exactly is Google "bending over backwards"? We're not asking for some special treatment. They've literally just excluded WP8 users specifically, for no reason.
    Oh, and Google Maps doesnt work on your browsers because it's not a webkit browser.
    Google Maps works on desktop IE, it has nothing to do with the browser's engine.
     
    This has nothing to do with marketshare or adoption rates. Google is not supporting Windows Phone because Bing services are built-in. It supports Android and iOS because Google's own servives are built in, or there are no default competitors. That's it. "Marketshare" is currently a convenient excuse for Google.
  • +1
  • wow that was just devoid of any facts.
  • >but pretty much anyplace where MS and G have similar services, Google's is better by leaps and bounds
    MOoohahahaha are you kidding?
     
    Outlook.COM > Gmail
    Skydrive > Google Apps
    Google search wins, fair enough (But I use BING first, and only resort to Google for search by date)
    YoutTube, MS have no equivalent so your point doesn't hold
    Office 365 > GMail Enterprise (have you even looked at these stacks?!)
     
    I prefer the email experience (EAS is waaayyyyy better than IMAP and covers more than email)
    I prefer the tight integration with my one account and ID (my Xbox, Skydrive, Outlook, Office 365, OneNote)
    Its a way way better combination than anything Google has. Google has Search and YouTube, the rest is better on MS (and added Nokia for location) IMHO :)
  • Completely agree. It's a shame that I have to rely on Google for YouTube. Besides that, I wouldn't choose Google for any of those other things. I feel like sometimes Google is better for search on some specific searches, but I've done too many comparison searches to try and say that Google is better. If only someone else owned YouTube other than Google... I think Microsoft could put their weight into a YouTube competitor. Buying Vimeo would be a good start.
  • There's a pretty big difference difference between choosing not to develop new products for WP due to market share concerns, versus intentionally preventing WP from accessing services that were previously accessible. It's enlightening to see that Google has the emotional maturity of my 5 year old.
  • The webkit argument doesn't hold water. A user in the comments of this very post tested this. Maps.google.com isn't allowing the webkit user agent... It is specifically denying the windows phone ie10 user agent. That is intentional and blantant blocking of windows phone.
  • Brendilon, you are spouting bullshit. Please read up on the situation and pull your head out. Or don't, doesn't really matter I guess.
  • X1000000
  • come on MS would it be to hard to update the service pack on all versions of windows OS to refuse to load anything google related.. If there want to play dirty afterall :)
  • Exactly!!!!!! Then Google would really start crying.
  • MS will not do this kind of act, MS doesn't mind support everythings if many users are already using the service.
  • Windows is an open platform. If they did that Windows would be dead. I know I would leave.
  • And then MS would get his with another antitrust lawsuit.
     
    I expect this sort of stupidity from iSheep, I guess I had thought better of WP users. Now I know better.
  • Why? Why is it OK for Google to act this way, and not MS. Why are you down on MS and not down on Google. Surely they are the evil ones in this instance? I smell and Android / Google fan in you.
  • Ok, now you're just pi.ssing me off. I'm not a fanboy of anything, but I like the direction Microsoft is going right now and that is why I support the platform. The way Google is acting has made me start ditching their services as much as I can, and if Microsoft would do what Google is doing I would ditch them too. If Microsoft did what you're suggesting and get away with it, then where would we draw the line?
    What makes Windows great is that it's open to everyone and all manufacurers can licence it (unlike the crap OSX where you have to go through hoops to make the drivers work on your PC). This battle between Microsoft and Google should not come down to taking customers hostage, they should fight it out in a courtroom, and that is exactly what Microsoft will do if it comes to that. I have confidence in the new "Good Guy Microsoft" that they will make this as painless for the users as they possibly can.
    So, I suggest YOU stop your rediculous Fanboyism and start looking at things from a realistic perspective.
    Regards from a happy Microsoft customer
  • Well said. I do really like the "new" Microsoft. I couldn't see them acting this way. They actually try to care about the customer, unlike Google has been lately. I really hope MS keeps this up.
  • Exactly Right.
    The way MS "gets back" is to succeed, and the way they succeed is to continue to offer the best user experience no matter what app, software, website, etc we choose to use. Stay open MS!!
  • you're a fool and you should keep your sub-par ideas to yourself.
  • Because MS, in this case, is not EVIL.
  • They won't do this because unlike Google, they aren't in the business of punishing users for their own little spats with other companies.
  • Yes, lets buy a product that censors the internet... Lets ask MSFT to stoop to their level...
  • Google would probably try and sue because they are bitches.
  • That we completely screw over consumers, and it would even make crapple just a little bit more appealing to some windows users. But in the end the would completely be a D*** move on microsofts part...
  • Wow! If this is true and Microsoft is being denied certain things from Google they should simply remove all Google apps, programs, ECT from all there Windows desktops. Guarantee Google would complain then!
  • Maybe this is a game of chess. Maybe Google wants MS to retailiate by doing everything you mention. If MS is smart, they take the high road. People hate evil empires (just ask MS)  and like the underdog.
  • This
  • +1
  • Naw, I'm like that, and I used to think there were others like me.
     
    But what I realized is that people still think that Google is the underdog even though they basically own the internet (search). They think Google is aultruistic just because that preach open souce (even though they don't allways stick to be being open) and not just a giant advertising company that bullies its way into market domination.
     
    So people still like to dump on MS for decades old sins even though they are the underdogs in mobile and search.
  • Google is trying to play god again. Remember how they denied the entire population of China before? Adding that to windows users elsewhere in the world, they can have their own kingdom...
  • hhahaha that sucks.
  • "In conclusion, we have to ask the question: is it time to actively boycott Google?". AYE!!!  I dont use any google services and I always wonder why some people seem so dependent on them, especially when they seem to be going out of their way to make life difficult for users of Microsoft's platforms. I have Nokia maps, and if I didnt have that I already bought Navigon on my DVP so navigation is not an issue, bing search works fine, Outlook.com rocks, so why are so many so in love with google and feel they MUST have their services?
     
    They are giving you the finger, dont just bend over and take it, give it to them right back as well!!!
  • This
  • If you change the UA string to android it works fine, so it's not programming, just Google being a spoiled little b****. Just like crash IE, where if you change the UA string to not IE everything works in IE. F' THEM!
  • How did u change it ?
  • You can use Fiddler as a proxy for Windows Phone traffic (over WiFi), which allows you to change UA strings of anything passing through it.  There may be other options, but that is by far the easiest if you have a WiFi network with both a PC and a WP device on it.
  • User Agent Switcher in the store...
  • MS needs to build a real competitor for YouTube. It's the last Google service I still use. Vimeo would be a good start if they bought it, but I don't see it happening due to the large volume of NSFW content, and the fact that MS are prudes... And the existent user base would likely boycott Vimeo if they got rid of all the booby-movies.
  • Just said almost this same thing. I only need Google for YouTube now.
  • absolutely.
  • too late. online celebrities are almost all from youtube now.
  • something like ios did with yasmine which looks nice btw
  • Incompetence is the most likely cause, not deliberate action.
  • I assure you that is not the case
  • It's been said before and I'll say it again: F U C K those bastards.
  • It sucks for the ppl that rely on google services but personally I enjoy Bing maps more and Nokia drive anyways
  • Google's mission statement: "Google’s mission is to organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful." So, I guess they don't even follow their own standards.
  • They excluded China in the "world" long ago...Maybe they should pull andriod out of chinese market as well..
  • China's government didn't want Google's open services so google rightly told them to go fuck themselves.
  • Oh you're mistaken. They said that, but later changed their minds and now actively censor the search results for China.
  • Yeah like anyone in China cares. There's local versions of everything in China, so unless you're a foreigner you probably don't ever need access to google services in China.
  • For the record, Bing Maps is simply terrible (In Canada at least, it would make Apple Maps look downright amazing). Plus, there's the fact that only Google Map on the web offers transit directions for WP users. No idea if Nokia Maps is any better, though I doubt it can be worse.
  • From what I've heard, Nokia maps are superior to Google maps on every country other than the US
  • That's not true. Check for example central Asian countries. Google has detailed street maps within the city's while Nokia only has the highways between the major cities and nothing else. And the funny fact: Nokia advertises this as navigation. For most European cities Nokia or Bing naps are outdated compared to Google maps too. Plus their POI suck completely. If you search for a McDonald's it might happen that you get directed to a city in the US.
  • No. That's because you have not downloaded the maps for these countries, hence you're seeing highways only. Stop spreading false info as Nokia Maps / Bing Maps is working perfectly fine here.
  • Really? I'm in Canada and Bing maps has always worked very well for me.
  • Also Canadian here, never had an issue with Bing or Nokia maps.
  • The only thing I hate about Bing Maps in Canada is that the address are catalogued by township instead of town. It can make things harder to find.
  • Already abandoned all google services so could care less. Bing has worked perfectly for all my needs.
  • Come on windows phone fans forget about google we have a great mapping experience on windows phone, let's stop giving google anything to beat their chests about our maps are better anyway....really SCREW GOOGLE..haven't use there maps since 2010.
  • Bing maps works well, not Nokia maps (POIs). We need to actively pursue Nokia to update their POI database and/or combine it with Bing's POI database. Then I will be satisfied with Nokia maps.
  • first ditching Exchange support for Gmail client in favor of inferior IMAP. then they said they will not develop any google application for windows platform and now blocking maps. seriously who is the dick here? I have an android tablet and I run Microsoft One note Just fine as well as Sky drive and Bing. do you see any google application in Windows 8 Metro or Phone? F**ck u Google. Now I understand why apple ditched google map for they crappy Map. The realized it sooner
  • In Germany it dont work,too.. But it doesnt matter because i use Nokia Maps :-D
  • OneNote on Android is pretty shi**y and same goes for Bing, MS just can't do good Android apps...besides, whou could blame Google for not making apps for such unpopular OS as WP. Don't get me wrong, I like WP and one of my favourite phones of last year was HTC 8X but WP just never catched on...
  • see, the problem isn't them not making apps for wp right now, it's this actively blocking wp that is pissing ppl off
  • I have Bing on my tablet its actually pretty good. Much better than the Google "app" on Windows Phone
  • And why does MS continue to support apps for android? Like SkyDrive etc..
    Wondering why Google is in bed with Apple but nasty with MS?
  • Apple doesn't offer / include a competing web search service.
    When you search the web from iOS' Spotlight, it opens a Google search.
    When you search for something on a Windows Phone, it uses Bing.
     
    If Apple had their own search engine, and it was built in to the OS from the beginning (how Bing is on a Windows Phone), Google would not be so friendly with Apple.
  • Skydrive is important to have on Android.
    Same with Skype. More people using it, the better.
  • Its been like this for awhile on Windows Phone.
  • Here in Brazil is working normally, even though I use Nokia Maps  
  • We've discussed this before on the forums.. pretty sheisty of google
  • I haven't been able to use google maps on WP since my first 7.0 device, the focus. This is nothing new.
  • This is true. I remember actively discussing this in the forums here approx 2 months ago.
  • Yeah I was part of that discussion (or one just like it). It's been this way for a long time. Months at the very least.
  • I had dropped most Google services a year before today's events. At present I have one Gmail account only used for access to YouTube. Too bad there is nothing else out there besides YouTube...
  • Actually all MS needs to do is revoke Google's EAS license. Without access to Exchange and the EAS features on their own mail/app services Android and Google Apps will be dropped from the enterprise completely.
  • Microsoft prefers partnership over this kind of action. Perhaps EAS license will be revoked but will open MS to legal action.
  • Wow! Google must really fear Microsoft! It's getting ridiculous now.
  • I'm really confused on why 'Scroogle' isn't catching on faster.
  • I have a vimeo account for video shari,g now, so I could get rid if YouTube (which has become too ad infested anyway). Now MS only needs to fix Bing in my country (still in beta) and in the other places where it isn't working well, then I'm google-free. Hey, life on the internet worked before google, why shouldn't it work afterwards !
  • Adblock. I haven't seen an ad on Youtube in years. Though I am rightly disgusted when I used YouTube on someone else's Pc without adblock installed.
  • +11111 I've been using AdMuncher for years and hadn't realize that YouTube has been taken over by ad infestation until I was on someone else's PC and wondered where all the ads came from. Now I laugh whenever I have to go on YouTube and know that I'm not seeing all the ads on there. :)
  • Thus shouldn't be an issue anyway before googles sheisty asses bought YouTube and ruined it.
  • All because Microsoft is making a little extra coin off android phone. Low blow google.
  • Not sure why this is an issue. Google's map (and email and search, etc.) are not that great.
  • Very true
  • I can't access either so this is sad for everyone but this kind of attitude can not be tolerated, especially when you are in a free market and everyone should have acccess to this services.We should do something about it  'cause they have gone too far this time .....
  • Microsoft should step up the game and sue the fuck out of Google. Not that I would use their crappy services anyways.
  • FUCK GOOGLE
  • Google maps is soooo 2009. People should move on.
  • Not sure why this is a big deal.  Google Maps hardly even worked at all in mobile IE anyway.  I can understand Google deciding to end support for it if making it work well was going to take a lot of work that they didn't feel was worth investing in.  Now, if it actually was a mostly or purely political decision, or if they take away YouTube (which works beautifully in mobile IE), then there's something to be upset about.
  • Germany :
    Went to maps.google.com, got redirected to Google Main page (google.com/m?site=local& ).
    i dont care, using nokia maps. :)
  • I have entirely stopped using google services. Google is nothing more than an ad company. They have survived and thrived this long due to their geek cred. But moves like this will turn the tide against them. Once that cachet is gone, it would be easy to overthrow the big g.
  • Not visited google maps for years, been going to Bing. Screw them, I also closed all my google accounts a while back (mainly because I didn't use them)
  • I am 100% Google free :)
  • Me too :)
    And my Company too. Thanks to my Content Firewall.
  • So Microsoft got sued because of packing the Windows operating system with the Internet Explorer browser. Google is going to block all it's services on Windows Phone? If Microsoft would do the same, they would get sued again because it's baaad....
    Google will lose it's own users because of itself, not because of the competition.
  • I guess Google want to play god again...they went against the whole population in China years ago and now they picked WP usesrs. I'd encourage them to pull off windows as a whole and that would certainly do them good. They set 20% of the earth population as enemy already, wouldnt hurt to add another 60% on their list. 
  • So googles really spitting its dummy out now! As much as id love MS to drop the hammer on them and lets face it...they could!! I respect the way MS is standing back and letting google have its little tantrum, everytime google makes a move against MS and not Apple, etc... They simply hand more legal ammunition to MS, with that in mind i say, "Bring it on google!"
  • I tried to navigate to maps.google.com and was greeted with the google search site. Then I realised that I haven't used google maps for ages as Bing and Nokia maps are more than sufficient for me. Add Nokia Drive to the mix and google maps becomes inapplicable.
  • I experienced this issue since the inception of WP8 (I was at Windows Phone 8 launch event). Google somehow think IE10 is inferior where as IE10 is the only browser that supports complete Html5 stack. Google is being weird these days.
  • I also do not use their services, but I could see this being a deal breaker to a less savvy smartphone buyer. "Can't use Google stuff on that one? Oh, guess I'll get Android then..." This is not good. They are slimeballs if doing this intentionally.
  • If Google did that on purpose, they will be officially whores.
  • Not going to miss it. For once apple seems less evil O.O
  • just start a new service called MetroTube.  just kidding. I'm sure this is just a technical error on Google's end for mobile browsers because IE 10 on desktop works fine.  it's not a big practical deal, but a significant symbolic one if otherwise.
  • No seriously.... They should do it, MetroTube ... Since Google loves copying, two (or three/four) can play that game.
  • maps.google.com took me to a mobile version of the search option, .co.uk took me to maps as you would expect. Not sure what to make that result.
  • I have been mostly boycotting Google for a couple of years now for everything but YouTube and the occasional need for StreetView. It's hard to believe what assholes they are becoming but I suppose they feel a bit emboldened after the FTC dropped the ball. If the feds are going to stay out of the fight then it should be fair for Microsoft  to make life miserable for Google on Windows.
  • It certainly seems intentional.  If you change the user agent in Firefox (using User Agent Switcher) to "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows Phone 8.0; Trident/6.0; ARM; Touch; IEMobile/10.0", you get redirected to the google home page. 
    But if you set the user agent to "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows Phne 8.0; Trident/6.0; ARM; Touch; IEMobile/10.0" (notice I intentionally mispelled Windows Phone), the maps.google.com page comes up just fine.
    In other words, the only way I was able to get it to redirect is to have Windows Phone in the user agent string.  So something on Google's side is keying off the user agent for windows phone.
  • That is interesting. That definitely goes a long way towards it looking like (yet another) an intentional attack on Microsoft. How this kind of behavior isn't picked up by the DOJ or FTC is beyond me.
  • The reason I tried this is because I figured it could be possible that an unknown user agent would force the redirect, but when I made the user agent invalid, maps.google.com displayed just fine.  I could see how a coding mistake on google's part could cause unknown user agents to redirect, but in this case, they are clearly recognizing the agent, and redirecting.
  • Has anyone else repro'd this? That's pretty ridiculous - I can't think of any legit reason for this to happen, but then I'm a tad ignorant about what actually happens when you change the user agent--it doesn't change he browser functionality, does it?
     
    I'm getting really sick of this fight between M$ and Google.
     
    Thanks for the heads up, gmlongo.
  • The user agent is really just a string of text that gets passed by the browser to the website to identify which browser is currently requesting the page.  It doesn't affect the browser functionality, but the website that is processing the request can use the user agent to offer a different style sheet for example.  Or in the case of maps.google.com, redirect the user all together.
  • Thanks for the explanation, and again, nice work noticing this. Looks like (according to another post on WPCentral) it's been confirmed by Google that this behavior was intentional. Ugh.
  • Why dont we all email google support asking them to re-clarify they mission statement?
  • Ask Eric Schmidt. He knows google's mission very well.
  • well I have a 920 and Nokia maps...so...yawn.
  • How about a windows update that blocks the use of google services...I bet a solution might be found pretty quick if that were to happen. Even if Google sued, it could take years to work itself out in court. The execs at Msft must have never heard of leverage.
  • Can't beat MS in court, might as well use shady tactics.
  • Its funny, both YouTube and google maps both work fine on both desktop version and mobile version (UK) however this is the first time I've tried to open either of these two websites in over a year! Bothered.....no.
  • Don't care
  • I think the main issue is Microsoft made such a huge splash when Windows 7 seemed to convince the overall market that Microsoft finally got their shit together and Microsoft did such a great job with Bing and possibly the notion Bing doesn't allow advertisers to be first in search queries might have turned some heat on Google. Then there is Windows 8 and Windows 8 tablets and Phones! I am just guessing possibly Googles CEO and Marketing agents are worried because it all ties together and a great self advertising scheme possibly something Google cannot compete with since almost every home computer has possibility opportunity to be upgraded to Windows 8 for $40 USD! I doubt the Chrome books are seeing much market share.. I see it Android isn't much without the OEM's and thanks to Apple Samsung probably feels like it might cause them more trouble later on... Hopefully Apple and Samsung are done... I don't hate Google or Android just Google needs to save face and break bread with Microsoft!
  • Sorry for language but banana YOU GOOGLE AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!!
  • Lol
  • Don't care since I won't use Google products. That sentiment seems to be spreading albeit slowly
  • maps.google.co.uk works fine for me in desktop mode!
  • Same for me.  In fact, it worked far better than I thought it would.  It almost works perfectly.
  • I think - We don't need Google anymore. We have Bing, a super cool and super good search site. We have Bing- or Nokia Maps. Better Maps than Google has. So, WE DONT NEED HELL-GOOGLE
  • For some countries, Bing doesn't work very well for internet searches (still in beta where I live). I hope MS gets its act together and takes care of ALL its customers.
  • Hope this is just an error but it seems Google is afraid of competition.
  • One thing if they dont develop an app or give access. If they restrict the maps itself then i do not think that will go well with google through the antitrust.  They even complained about having IE as the default on windows 8.  So let's see how it goes. I really wish MS stops all these cool apps on androids starting now and see how it goes for google.  
  • If this is true, then its a sad day for technology. The game of creating technology is to create innovations that better the competition, so your products gets the plaudits. Microsoft has truly innovated with Windows Phone, and should get the plaudits & sales it deserves. But how can this be achieved when google deny them the sites & tools that are VITAL for a mobile platform too succeed? Its wrong and unfair
  • "Doh't be evil" my ass.... One more reason why I'm glad I left Google behind and embraced Windows Phone.
     
    F*ck Google.
  • Bing works better I think. The Nokia city lens is awesome. Love my red 920. Google sucks lately I've been posting all my windows 8 wp8 bids to fb works better for me google can kiss my _______!
  • I am in a transition from Gmail to Outlook, from YouTube to Vimeo and Dailymotion, still need a similar service like Google Reader without the Gmail account..
  • Has anybody else tried that redirected page before pulling out the torches and pitchforks?  I was redirected on my Lumia 920, but I was still able to enter a search and get a static mini-map:
    https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=66DEAFBC754C6FF2&id=66DEAFBC754C6FF2!2624
    If you want a rich experience, you should be using the built-in Bing, Bing Maps, Nokia Maps, or Local Scout on your Windows Phone anyway.
  • That is just a search, its not using maps.
    You can try the same thing on a desktop, so I will keep wielding my torch and pitchfork, thank you very much.
  • just closed all google services i ad , waiting a few for my gmail... closing soon! 
  • No problem, use bing search, hotmail nokia maps or bing maps (better than google maps).
  • 'Outside of some really unique situations?' 
    Please, there is a big world outside the United States(yep, it's true, USA != world) where Bing maps are hopeless. So it's not a wise decision by Google to block web access to their maps.
  • Yes, it is time to actively boycott Google. Not just individual efforts, but someone needs to organize something more formal. A clear message needs to be sent.
  • LOL you don't need to boycott Google, Google is making it very easy for Windows Phone users to do that, whether they like it or not :p
  • It's time for Microsoft to stop playing nice and work on a major competitor for YouTube...
  • Google Maps has never worked on Internet Explorer browsers people lol do a little research. Google Maps through mobile browsers is based off web-kit, which the aging Internet Explorer is not lol http://m.gizmodo.com/5973295/google-maps-has-never-been-accessible-on-mo...
  • Gizmodo said something bad about IE. WOW, MIND BLOWN.
  • You sound insane. Google maps has always worked in IE. Lol
  • Works on desktop IE since forever...and Firefox...and Opera. All of which are NOT WebKit browsers.
  • And it since has been retracted by the author himself.
  • WP7.5 no access with both IE profiles :O tragic
  • If Android owned less then 3 percent of the market do you think Microsoft would have skydive and all their other apps on the Play Store? If you do, then you think too highly of microsoft. All I'm saying is that if the roles were reversed, Microsoft would be just as bad as Google. 
  • This is NOT an app we are discussing This is a website that is explicitly blocking windows phone based on the user agent. There is a big difference.
  • I would if Google already made the apps and just needed an "okay" to release it.
  • Everyone should get on twitter, ask why Google is EVIL or whatever and use the hash tag #googleisevil. The news sites love twitter because they don't need to do any work.
  • I'm not entirely sure why WP users aren't taking advantage of ms's ecosystem. Everything a WP user needs is in their hands! Maps and navigation, seriously, how often do you use that? Gmail, what does Gmail have that outlook doesn't? I'm I lost or not getting with the program? Someone help enlighten me!
  • Bing maps are terrible outside the United States. 
    And you don't just switch emails like that, especially if someone has been a long time Gmail user, which millions of people are. Take me for example, I've my Gmail account setup as my login in God knows how many websites, everyone I know knows my Gmail address and I've been using it for nearly 10 years now. I can't just 'switch' to outlook. It's not possible no matter what stop-gap solution you present.
  • It is possible to switch from Gmail to Outlook. It just would take you a lot of effort, and time.
  • Well, all you would do is forward your google email to outlook
  • Can't say much about maps since I hardly use. Bing seems to work fine for me. For mail, its more or less a matter of convenience. Here's what I say, you're using WP, join the family. Start taking advantage. You won't regret.
  • I cant help you there ... I am of the same mind as you.
  • I don't remember how long it was that I had my Gmail account. I was a beta tester for them about a year or two before Gmail went public. So last year I had enough of Google and closed every account with them. Went to all the sites I was concerned about, updated them and never looked back. It's not difficult to change you just have to want to change.
  • My reason for not using bing instead of google as  a internet search tool so far:
    - Bing still in beta in my country
    - Standard bing search results cannot be filtered by date (I use this option a lot). It can be done when searching for news only, but then I lose the ability of searching for sites of more than one language
    - Bing search results just not as good as google's
    Bing might world well for you, in your part of the world, but it sure as hell doesn't in other parts of the world. And as long as Microsofts has customers in parts of the world where bing (or any other MS tools) are not working well, there will always be Microsoft customers using competitors tools.
     
    Sigh ... I don't know why some people S T I L L think if something works for them, it MUST be working for all people. Believe me, this is just not the case.
     
    BTW, I neither use bing maps nor google maps, I'm happy with nokia maps. I also don't use gmail as I have no reason to do so (only had a gmail account because I have used an android phone before).
     
    Edit:  Should have been an answer to the post above.
  • right
  • It is a full conscious move from Google... As I've read this, I also recalled that Google maps used to work on my Zune HD; but when I tried to access today, it also got redirected. It wouldn't surprise me if Google PR says this day or tomorrow that it was in the "best interest of giving users a full experience" or some similar crap
  • Bing Maps >Google Maps >Nokia Maps
  • Huh?
     
  • Microsoft should block Google from W7-8! That would really bite their ass.. Sure 90% of the world would go nutz at first, but once they saw the price for a Mac, and started to use Bing, in time they would forget all about Google. Trust me, the world would move on. If Google can block their services from a OS, then MS should be able to block its OS from their services! Seriously, if this were to happen MS would rule the entire computer landscape desktop, and mobile.
  • This is stupid. I have faith in Microsoft to do the right thing, though.
  • And if Microsoft did that, they'd get in more hot water than Google would, given Windows 90% (roughly) market share on computers (laptops/desktops). MS would soon find it didn't rule anything at all with all the attention they'd get from the FTC and Justice Dept.
    They've already gotten in hot water over abusing their monopoly power and would not want to do so again, especially since repeat behavior would trigger rather more substantial penalties.
  • Maps? Better Nokia's.
    Yes, maps doesn't work here in the UK. Unbelievable how open they are! Time to switch away from all their apps and services. 
  • Its been said before, but just remove the ability for Google to to run in IE and disallow any google program from running in windows.
    There'll be a loud noise from the google camp, Things will have to be settled then.
  • I've never tried accessing google maps on browser using my focus s, 900, and 920, not sure why you would need to do with map apps on the phone.  gmaps on browser would be kind of difficult. 
  • I use Bing maps on my Omnia 7, as soon as I get my Lumia 920 I will use bing and Nokia maps. If Scroogle want to stop .. thats fine by me, but you cant stop supping me, because I stoped useing you.
    The only place I still use google is on a PC, and thats 95% bing search, and 5% Google Search, 95% bing maps, and 5% google Maps, Google Earth, and YouTube.
    If I was 100% off Google it would hurt their add income more than it would hurt me.
  • I never use google for anything at all but just for the heck I went to the mapping website with no problems and did a search as well. Please don't make any one go to a Google site again. HaHa
  • I so wish I decouple myself from Gmail & Chrome. Can Firefox replace Chrome's ability to sync bookmarks, extensions and settings as well as sign into multiple accounts?
  • Yes ff can sync.
  • Yeah and it is better than the crap that is Chrome.
  • I've never been able to access Google Maps via IE on my Lumia 920, desktop mode or not. I've presumed this was a normal thing, although why I would think that does now seem ridiculous.
  • Strange!! It worked on my PC using IE 10, also since im using Windows 8 on my PC, i opend Google maps using its application "Google" then clicked on Apps, then maps and it worked well. Also i wrote the website of maps.google.com on the google apps and it worked fine. But on my phone it didnt work......
    If google is blocking gmaps and maybe all of its services, then i think Microsoft should do too. Block Skype on Andriod and lets see how it wil go. Mircosoft is getting beaten up from google every few days...not cool
  • Anybody down for a complete boycott against google?
  • When Youtube stops having a monopoly on internet video I'll be right there with you but alas... :(
  • im already doing it :P
  • We need to do a smart boycott. You should only use their services that'll bleed Google money. For example, use Gmail for junk mail, sign up for all kind of SPAM and don't clean your mail box. Use Youtube but block all advertising. Use Google voice but don't give them a red cent.
  • LOL, that's what I already do =)
    I have 20 Gmail accounts that I use when I encounter "Enter Email address for coupon code" situations, and they are all filled with gigs of spam. And I haven't seen an ad on Youtube for ages thanks to Adblock+.
  • Well screw it I will close my Google account for good.... Shame on you Google... Bastards.
  • I don't care, I have been using Bing and its better so far, YouTube is all I care about
  • +1 for YouTube.
  • This is whay MS should not allow office on android or ios. Xbox as well should be locked to thier ecosystem, its not right its just the way it is. At least not allow thier properties on android. period.
  • This is from Google's About page.  This is their mission statement:
    "Google’s mission is to organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful." 
    What tools.  I really can't stand Google.  I'm THIS close to being able to close my google account.  And I won't look back.
  • Its taking a long time to move all 11,000 emails off of Google to Outlook but it is worth it. Google is out to make war. No use to be caught in the middle, as much as I can help it.
  • I'm owning a Lumia 920 and have just done a little Wireshark session: when browsing to maps.google.com (as well as www.google.com), the browser uses the User-Agent "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 9.0; Windows Phone OS 7.5; Trident/5.0; IEMobile/9.0)". Browsing to ifconfig.me leads to the usual "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows Phone 8.0; Trident/6.0; IEMobile/10.0; ARM; Touch; NOKIA; Lumia 920)".
    Spoofing the UA for specific sites is not unusual (just have a look at override_downloaded.ini in your Opera's profile folder), as site owners are using browser switches to treat specific browsers different (as Google now)...
    Therefore I expect MSFT will soon update IE10's "override_downloaded.ini", so IE10 is spoofing being something else (e.g. Chrome ;-)) when browsing to Google.
    Nevertheless, out of Google's perspective, WP8 has currently a market share of 0%.
  • Bunch of users here would beg to differ on your 0% comment
  • When Google is looking for "Windows Phone 8.0" in their server logs, they won't find an entry (currently). That's what I meant with 0% out of Google's POV.
  • They definitely will see Windows Phone 8 in their server logs.  It is hitting their server, but their code is choosing to redirect these users.
  • You are saying that's not even one has Windows Phone with 0% market share? And you own a 920!
  • IE10
     
    Using User Agent Switcher spoofing to be an Android Smartphone: image
  • UC Browser is available on iOS, Android, Blackberry, and a number of other platforms. It is not webkit based. I am curious if anyone with an Android phone is able to hit maps.google.com using that browser.
  • here.com is using a browser switch, too. When browing with IE10 on my Lumia, I'm getting a "HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily" with "Location: explore-maps://v1.0/" triggering the system to open the map app.
  • I've never been able to access maps.google.com on my Nokia 822. Got it about 6 weeks ago and it didn't work from day 1... Thought this was known. It did work on my trophy the day prior to that.
  • So this is what happens when the governent tells Google, "We trust you to regulate yourselves."
  • Talk about open isn't that the whole premise behind android/Google. I guess it's only open to non windows users. I wonder how their ad business partners feel about that if true...
  • This has been the case for at least a year, actually.
  • I'm a big user of all things Google. But I'm going to change now. I'm not interested in being part if some pissing contest. Lost one here, geniuses.
  • F that, I rather use the Thomas Guide in my trunk.
  • Right now we must hope the EU steps up and goes after Google since the FCC bent over for all the Google lobbying..The EU takes their populations privacy much more seriously than the US does
  • Let MS support Office and XBox on iOS and leave Android out then listen to Google whine to everyone
  • Im glad I pulled away from all google services except YouTube.. For now
  • So basically you haven't because in order to use Youtube you have to have Google account which means that you're tied to Google+, Gmail and Youtube whether you like it or not.
  • Try gmaps.com on Nokia 920 & then try it on safari on iPhone, totally different results! Very weird
  • What i find BullSh*t id that if that was Microsoft stopping these services they would have been hit with an anti trust fine and bitching in comments wont do anything, im taking action and i will be putting a complaint into the EU as this it wrong. i recommend everyone does this as its the only way you will get this to change as they will keep getting away with it unless we take a stand against them.
    (myself i don't use Google services so this doesn't affect me but there are WP users that do and that includes YouTube i ditched it when i got Windows 8 as i use Xbox Music for my streaming needs)
  • Microsoft isn't doing this... Notice all the people changing the UA and it working/not working
  • Darth Google.. To Microsoft.."Once I was but a learner...
    Now I am the master!"
  • Oh hex MS just block google on win 7-8
  • Google who......................
  • its time to get real by boycotting their services
     
  • Can't say I'm actively boycotting Google but when there is an alternative I ALWAYS pick the alternative.
     
    And that was when I still had an iPhone 3G I stopped using Gmaps after it got me lost several times and I changed the default seach provider to Yahoo.
     
    So currently I'm still using Youtube, Google Reader, and Kindle Fire (Android). As soon as I can get viable replacements for that stuff I can delete my Google account. I wonder if my dormant gmail/g+ account is inflating there numbers anymore than it needs to be...
  • A boycott is great and all, but it'd probably be more useful to start a petition asking for the FTC to look into this specific issue and then once whatever goal you set is reached, forward it to the FTC and Senate members who are on the Commerce Committee. It's much more likely that it will get looked into and possibly force Google's hand than just boycotting their services when it won't be everyone who does so and there's still plenty on other platforms who will use it. Get the attention of the FTC or the Senate committee on this issue and it won't matter how many others continue to use Google, they may be forced to change their ways. Yes, I know they were recently cleared by the FTC, that was on a different issue entirely .
  • I agree.  Boycotting Google will not have an effect.  The WP community is just too small.  A petition "might" work, but then again, I don't think you would get enough signatures from WP users who care or have knowledge about Google's shenanigans.
  • Suppose MS was to cut off access to Skype for all Android users?
  • that would be like quitting a job out of spite, Right now android is too big of a skype user base to take that hit on the wallet. MIcrosft still wont release a skype app for my Blackberry 7 or playbook, not because there lazy, because they dont want to support the compatition. We all have our fingers crossed skype is being made available for BB10. But with these kindoff google attacks going on microsoft probably feels the same way with RIM
     
     
  • yes but ms isnt blocking blackberry from making their own app.  The difference is google is blockign windows device from accessing their service, based off the identity of the device as a windows phone.
  • The only thing I really miss from wp is a good service equivalent to google lattitude. the one in gmaps pro is not as good as the native one. Can you recommend something to me? The people I need to follow use iOS, wp and Android. Thanks
  • Where is the Google once was? Openness, innovate web service, available everywhere as long as there is internet. Now denying a raising phone OS user base...
  • And what was that petition to Google about asking them to write apps for WP8? That might actually give Google idea that screwing WP8 users more is a better idea.
  • scrolling through these comments on my blackberry I saw litteraly 50 ads by google lol. PS, Microsft does this with RIM over skype. 
  • It sucks seeing these google ads every 10 comments-pretty annoying. I'm not a advertising exe but I guess if someone clicks the ad then WPC gets $$?
  • Oh god, get real. I lost all respect for the author and content of this article when i read "Google’s less-than-awesome mapping service" , lets be real. Ok, Bing maps is a steaming pile of shit compared to Google maps. Dont watch MS piss on me and regurgitate their press releases that it's raining. This is supposed to be a third-party independent site, and when you make statements that are so obviously biased and beyond reasoning, you really throw your credibility into question.
    I love this site, I read it multiple times daily and i've tipped a few times and been credited for it. If i didnt i sure as hell wouldnt care to take my time and email in. But this shit is unquestionably not cool. Please tone down the MS fanboy shit and call a spade a spade. In this case, Bing maps kinda do the trick sometimes, but the service needs serious overhaul and improvement to stack up anywhere close to Google maps. They aren't in the same galaxy at the moment, lets not sink to the level of pretending they are because that's what we're kinda stuck with at the moment. That's not right, and when we do it we're just as bad as all the apple fanboys we all know and dislike.
  • How much longer before google.com fails completely on WP? :-o
  • Meh, I prefer Nokia Maps anyways...
  • Can someone do an app called user agent switcher for Windows Phone?
  • I started my boycott long ago.
  • ditto
  • So? I didn't even knew it worked in the first place.
  • Awwww ...... not affect me , LOL
    SInce first day I began using WP on my Lumia , I use only NK Map and Bing Map.
    Except sometimes my friend sent me some pin-point on the Gmap.
  • "we can’t see why you would prefer it over Bing or Nokia Maps"   Daniel, I respect you, this site, and this community, but if you really think and MS or Nokia services hold a candle to Google right now, you're way off.   This is coming from someone who's switching between an 8X and a Nexus 4. This difference is night and day, and it's most definitely in Android's favor.   You cannot be this naive.
  • lolwut?
  • I understand what DSE... means. Sometimes us users for whom some of googles services are working better than the ones if googles competitors (e.g. MS) have the feeling we're not being taken seriously on this site. I, for example, can't believe that some people are STILL not seeing that MS' services aren't best for all of us and suggesting that we just shouldn't use google are not helping at all. I would wish for an article on, say, the reasons what keeps some people from using googles alternatives, maybe together with telling where they live - if only to make seen that we have a voice here, too.
  • Dude, if you are taking about maps then Nokia is,way better and does the job well! Besides gmaps need to be updated, till now the satellite images of my town is like 10 years ago and things have changed but in Bing and Nokia maps ate updated. To me this is a fail! Look yes google has awesome services but I'm not worried at all just YouTube is the only thing you can't replace! dude I switched from iPhone to Nokia Lumia 920 and I didn't go to android even though I would have since In the family we have s2! Its simply a copy cat of the ios and boring! Don't compare wp8 with ur nexus and jelly bean! Android sucked at the beginning and with time it grew and got better and that's for for sure what will happen to wp8 it will get better! Even though I believe that WP 8 is amazing! wp8 is gr8 and awesome and hey they didn't copy iOs! So,don't be stupid and tell us how wow is ur andriod after all of this time.....
  • wow what are you smoking buddy. Google's apps and services dont hold a candle to what MS have, and google maps crap compared to Nokia maps and gps nav.
  • oh my goodness, how sad.
    i never used that crap anyway, Nokia Maps kicks the  fecese out of google maps.
  • This is a good thing, it should encourage MS and Nokia to make more improvements (and much faster) to their own mapping services to make them a more competitive replacement. In the end Google will lose, but all of the customers (regardless of mobile platform) will benefit from this action because there will be more alternatives. So stop your whining and just wait for MS and Nokia to do that... Just use a 3rd-party Google Maps apps (they still work) for now if you're too dependant on Google Maps.
  • If this is true - this is outragoeus!!!
    Definitely boycott!!!
  • Fellow Windows Phone Users!! Boycott Google!! Stop using their hideous services!!
  • I can think of several ways for Microsoft to respond. Buy AdBlock and make a big news out of it (even though MSFT may choose to do nothing of it).   This will strike fear into Google for their wallet.  All reports say that desktop ad revenue is still the lion share of all Google revenue and their mobile ad business is practically not generating anything. Also, AdBlock should not cost that much to MSFT.  Leverage the enterprise dominance by denying access to popular Microsoft offerings from Android devices.  E.g., end support for Chrome (phone or tablet) on SharePoint, deny to sell Exchange client access license to Android devices or charge exorbitant price for the CAL for Android compared to iOS.   
  • I want to thank you Daniel for posting this.  It seems that everyone is catching on now that Google lied about this today.   
  • Since you all criticised Google maps that much, I went ahead and tried Nokia maps (I'm from AC). As a Hongkonger, when I saw all mandarin names in Hong Kong I instantly decided to boycott them. Sorry, but I'm infuriated by this enormous loophole. As if nokia were a communist.
  • Great!! Bing Maps SUCK in SL.. 
    Nokia maps is not available for HTC products ... right.. I'm screwed!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Such is the fate of the underdogs.  Just adds another sting for us who already don't get app support from most things.  Thankfully, I don't ever use google search anymore, so this doesn't affect me at all.  I just hope that we can get a bigger user base in the near future so that you won't have to worry if WP is supported all the time.
    On a sidenote, Google is still being Google...
  • Well.... it was first Microsoft who didn't want Google to bring Chrome to Windows 8 RT, right?
    If MS doesn't want Google on their ARM OSs, so be it....
  • MS has nothing against google making a modern app for RT, Google doesn't want to make it, get your facts correct.
  • Try this website on your phone:
    https://www.google.com/maps?ui=maps
  • The https link is working 2013 : Google is now starting THE big fight because first, he have the crew with him, glued to his services, and second, MS is now a dangerous challenger with the great transition he make last year ( w8 wp8 office365, bing-Nokia maps, SkyDrive, Skype...)
  • Who NEEDS Google??? Going the way of Yahoo, sell that Ogle stock.
  • I know Google may be evil, but I just can't stop using their services ! YouTube has no alternative. Google Maps is unmatched in India. Google Search cannot be replaced (Bing is pretty good but......) GMail ain't important to me.I just use it to check my YouTube responses,but otherwise, Outlook is my primary mail client.
  • That's what I mean .. If googles competitors want people use their services, they need to make them better. Globally, not only in certain places!
  • Google Maps is still working at the local Country addresses, ie. https://maps.google.co.nz
  • I want to know what happened to "We need to pick a fight". Microsoft keeps taking hits and throwing nothing back not even blocking.
  • The workarounds don't seem to work properly on Windows Phone 7.
     
    To anyone with a Windows Phone 8, can you properly use the google maps when it loads? Like, slide your finger and the MAP moves, rather than the entire page?
     
    cheers.
  • What happened to a free and open internet Google or is that only when it's conducive to your business model. #stopsopa
  • Google what? If I talk about maps I mean Nokia Maps. The user should not tolerate such behavior and avoid using google services.
  • Such a shame, a big company like Google shouldn't have to do this to mess with its competitors, they are obviously insecure about their products. I used to think Google is great but I'm a  fan no more.
    Good thing I've learned to live without Google apps, even though still using an android tablet, I use Skydrive and Nokia Maps/Bing Maps with ease, Gmail is the only thing keeping me.
  • Google maps also redirects to search on Harmattan. So ours not just a WP problem.
  • Why do you people even care so much about Google products? If I can be very efficient -even more- without G products.. so can you. 
  • Well,then tell me an internet search tool that delivers as good results as google does. In my country. Sigh. How many times does it have to be repeated that for some countries, some non-google-tools just don't deliver good results?
  • Then, you should continue to use Google, if it works better for you.  For the rest of us, Bing works fine, as well as Bing Maps, Nokia Maps, and Nokia Drive.
     
    Bing may never provide you with the results you need, now or in the future; with that said, no one begrudges you for using Google services on you WP.
  • Google would not be around without Microsoft Windows juggernaut. The founders rake in billions and now got over their heads, forgot their roots and you think Chrome OS will win by doing all these? Just LOL and disappointed with such childish act.
  • If Nokia could get their traffic data up to snuff (it pales compared to google) and implement a Street View equivalent we wouldn't need Google Maps at all....
  • I don't need Google Maps, regardless.    As a matter of fact, I'm pretty adept at navigation my city and the surrounding areas, so I rarely need maps to begin with.  But if I need navigation....
     
    I use Nokia Maps and Nokia Drive.  For non Nokia users, perhaps they want or need Google Maps, but there are alternatives on WP in the Marketplace for non Nokia users.
  • who uses gmaps anymore lol?
  • Lumia 710, Didn't work. Booo
  • OOOOOOHHH BUlll****** you're not gonna do anything, I wanna still use Youtube which means whether I like it or not I'm tied to G+, Gmail and then Youtube via Google account anyway.
  • I said goodbye to Google a couple of days ago. Transferred everything to Hotmail/Outlook, started using Vimeo, Nokia maps (Here.com or Here.net), Vonage (instead of Google Voice), etc. I have survived with just a little effort. Now only if WPC would also stop using YouTube, that would be great.
  • Google is dooming!
  • THATS IT! Im closing my google account down tards! I was planing on buying two small cheap android tablets for the kid to play with but now.... screw them! I disgust how Google has been acting lately.
  • It reminds me much of Microsoft misusing their OS dominance to block Netscape ... I hope Google get fined heavily for this. 
  • What is this "google" you speak of? I Binged it and found nothing. ;-)
  • OMG!!! I'm going to jump off a bridge!  Wait, I don't have access to google maps, so now I can't find any.....oh well.
  • LOL
  • The only thing i use on my wp from google/metrotube is youtube. 
    I dont understand why you want to use google maps when we have nokia maps.
  • If Bing Services were available in all countries.... This wouldn't matter... If we could use FULL BING SERVICES IN PORTUGAL..
  • I don't want to use google maps. I have Nokia maps which rocks. However this is the petty childish response to there already childish decision to cut off windows phone users. Google need a slap. They clearly havent considered the revenue they're losing . They think that limiting users will drive them to their products. IPhone have begun to fail with this approach. Intact there limitations are the very reason I chose WP7 over android
  • It works if you do the following:
    1) Do a Google search for the address you want.
    2) After the results appear then choose "Maps" along the top option bar in Google. This seems to be the only way that it will bring you to the google maps option.
  • I never was able to go to maps.google.com on my WP. Not just recently.
  • Now, Microsoft should buy tomtom or Garmin, or even NAVTEQ and open NOKIA map to all WP users to solve the problem
  • Navteq is a Nokia sister company and Garmin uses Navteq.
  • In this case, Microsoft can block google from running on Windows PC 
  • Very happy I bought a l920. Was tempted to go for a note 2. Today I visited a local phone dealer. I had a quick hands on experience with their demo model. Much to my surprise, it was lagging, as I swiped the homescreens. I thought the jelly bean update had fixed that. Something as basic as a smooth UI... Wtf? Why are WP taking so much heat, for it's minor issues? I don't get it. Screw google.
  •   Apple: We kicked Google maps off iOS and replaced it with our own inferior maps app.   Google: Okay Apple, here’s a shiny new map app that’s even better than Android.   Microsoft: Wait a minute, how about a map app for Windows Phone?   Google: Oh you, thanks for reminding us. Not only will you never get a map app but we’re breaking the browser functionality – bwahahaha!
  • Microsoft: Oh we have a map app fully intergrated into the OS powered via Nokia's excellent mapping technology.
  • The reason behind is that IE10 is still not capable of allowing embedded touch/pan over the map area... making the map useless.
    But they should be more polite displaying something like "not supported due to..."
  • Google is trying to kill themselves
  • Got Nokia maps and drive on my 920, doesn't need that Googles**t...
  • go to Here.com, no need for google maps anymore.
  • WPCentral! Can we start using Vimeo or some other service on this website instead of using YouTube. Some of us have boycotted YouTube already and are now missing out on the videos you guys post.
  • That is so disappointing behavior of Google!
    I am using a lot of Google stuff, and I never had the slightest idea of this stupid behavior from a company of that size! They should be happy for the interest from all kind of users, instead of sorting some of them out and block them with these kind of tricks.
    I hope Google do change now, and let all platforms access their services, and start to develop an excellent app for WP!
  • This has been going on for months....my hd7 hasn't been able to pull google maps since before summer of 2012...the only workaround was to install opera mobile for wp7 from bazaar but then no rotation support...
  • Scroogled! #Droidrage
  • And I have seen today that google have backpeddled giving some lame excuse and their crappy mapping services will once again be available to WP users. I would not touch thier shit with a 10' pole now.
  • Maybe Microsoft should block google os from accessing Skype :)
  • If you guys wanna solve this, use the app USER AGENT SWITCHER.
    I also got redirected from maps.google.com but one changed to fake Android it worked perfectly, so shame on you Google. This is a low measure in your companys history.
  • I wish I could use Bing and Bing maps or Nokia Maps... but Bing is not very good outside the US, and they for sure have no GPS feature for my country..
  • My first Windows Phone was the Samsung Focus.  Back then, I didn't feel Bing was up to snuff, so I carried over my bad habbit of using Google to do all my searching with my newly aquired Lumia 920.  After hearing about the YouTube api blockage and now this, I made a conscious effort to JUST USE BING.  Wow.  So many improvements and WAY BETTER INTEGRATION into the phone OS.  Searching and doing different tasks with the search results is so much more efficient that I wish I made the switch sooner.
    In the words of Ron Burgendy, "Go EFFF yourself, Google."