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Microsoft speaks out against Trump administration's decision to rescind DACA

Echoing comments it made last week (opens in new tab), Microsoft has come out strongly against the Trump administration's decision to end protection under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. In a new statement (opens in new tab), Microsoft President and Chief Legal Officer Brad Smith called the move, which would remove protections preventing deportation for immigrants who were brought to the U.S. illegally as young children, a "big step back for our entire country."

Under the administration's current plan, Congress will have six months to implement DACA legislatively before protections end. In his statement, Smith urges Congress to make this a priority, taking precedence ahead of even tax reform. From Smith:

We say this even though Microsoft, like many other companies, cares greatly about modernizing the tax system and making it fairer and more competitive. But we need to put the humanitarian needs of these 800,000 people on the legislative calendar before a tax bill. As an employer, we appreciate that Dreamers add to the competitiveness and economic success of our company and the entire nation's business community. In short, urgent DACA legislation is both an economic imperative and a humanitarian necessity.As this debate moves forward, we need to remember that these 800,000 individuals came to our nation as children. They grew up in this country. They attended our local schools and count millions of American citizens as friends. They obey our laws, pay taxes here and have registered voluntarily with the federal government for DACA relief. They are loyal to this country and contribute their time and money to local churches, schools and community groups. The Dreamers are part of our nation's fabric. They belong here.

In the event that Congress fails to act, Smith says that Microsoft will commit to legally protecting the 39 Dreamers that it currently employs. Says Smith:

This is why we will work as needed with other companies and the broader business community to vigorously defend the legal rights of all Dreamers. For the 39 Dreamers that we know of who are our employees, our commitment is clear. If Congress fails to act, our company will exercise its legal rights properly to help protect our employees. If the government seeks to deport any one of them, we will provide and pay for their legal counsel. We will also file an amicus brief and explore whether we can directly intervene in any such case. In short, if Dreamers who are our employees are in court, we will be by their side.

Dan Thorp-Lancaster is the Editor in Chief for Windows Central. He began working with Windows Central as a news writer in 2014 and is obsessed with tech of all sorts. You can follow Dan on Twitter @DthorpL and Instagram @heyitsdtl. Got a hot tip? Send it to daniel.thorp-lancaster@futurenet.com.

109 Comments
  • Unlike Obama, Trump wants to remove all illegal immigrants from the country even if they don't have a criminal record.  
  • Check your facts. Trump has said he supports DACA but wants it in a proper form of legislation instead of an easily reversible executive order... but you can't hear that because it doesn't play into your narrative.
  • lol he's even said many times, he just wants to get rid of the "bad hombres". Peoples hate for Trump is so unreal. It's perfectly fine if you wanna hate on the guy, he's said some pretty crappy things, but no reason to make up stuff to hate on.
  • Sure, what he said and what he signed are two different things. The EO he signed signals that if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time you can also be taken away. So, if they're looking for "bad hombres" where you at, and they see you, a "good hombre" with no papers, adios amigo. 
  • And that has been the actual law for quite a while. What the EO did was put the pressure back on Congress to do something. Well, to be honest, the pressure is only there if you contact your congressman and tell them you won't vote for them if they don't act in the next 6 months on this. If you really care, that's what you'll do.
  • We're not making anything up. Trump is deporting people without criminal records.
  • Show me one time that Trump deported anyone. Presidents don't deport people you dope. I've got some interesting news for you, if you're in any country illegally you run the risk of being deported from it regardless of your criminal status.
  • Don't play that intellectual dishonesty BS with me. ICE, the division of Homeland Security that is responsible for immigration enforcement is deporting people without criminal records under the directive of the President.
  • Check your facts. The current laws regarding removal of illegal immagrants from the US have been in place since the late 90's. 
  • Do you actually believe that BS? If he supported DACA, he wouldn't have rescinded it. It's as simple as that. Trump can push for legislation while not removing the current protections. It's not a complicated situation.
  • @Darkness690, that's simply wrong. Trump didn't rescind DACA, he effectively extended it by 6 months to give Congress time to do something. The rational response from people who support DACA should be to thank Trump for giving it the only chance it has to survive, because the conventional wisdom on the upcoming court cases are that it would have been completely struck down. As is often the case in politics and especially with Trump, the criticisms aren't based on facts, but are just a reforming of insults about a caricature of the opponent in power.
  • That's some more right wing nonsense. You have no idea which way the court case would go. Trump is doing this so his Department of Justice doesn't even have to defend it. The xenophobic portion of his base wouldn't like that. Trump put an expiration date on it, that is not an extension. Why can't Trump put pressure on Congress to pass something without holding 800,000 people hostage? Because he is what he is...a coward.
  • @Darkness690, I'm not interested in left wing or right wing, just facts and trying to cut through the political bias. I'm not a legal scholar, so I don't claim expertise on how the court would rule, but friends of mine who are, both on the left and right seem to agree that SCOTUS, at least as currently composed, would more likely rule against DACA that for it. They point to the Fifth Circuit's initial injunction blocking aspects of DACA pending the actual case. (you can read some on it here, and this is a Democrat-leaning source: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/fifth-circuit-obama...). If Trump is a "coward" for pushing it to Congress, does that mean Obama was being, what, bold and dictatorial and autocratic, and perhaps hypocritical? Keep in mind that Obama himself many, many times when defending his inaction on immigration to Hispanic critics said that it was not Constitutional for him, as head of the executive branch, to choose which laws the executive branch would enforce. Agree or disagree with the merits of the law, it clearly says that DACA people are here illegally. Obama's legal logic for why he didn't have the authority to enact something like DACA had been that while he could prioritize enforcement in some areas over others and choose where to allocate resources, he could not direct his Justice Department and Homeland Security Department to simply not enforce some laws. Then, with DACA, shortly before the election against Romney, that's exactly what he did. It was BLATANT pandering to his Hispanic base so as not to lose them and their critical turnout over anger at his immigration inaction -- recall that he had a fully Democratic Congress during his first two years, including a filibuster-proof super-majority in the Senate prior to Ted Kennedy's death and Scott Brown's election and had promised that immigration reform would be first on his agenda to beat McCain. He completely backtracked on his own prior legal assessment, and, unlike Trump's move, a complete end-run around Congress, resulting ultimately in the Fifth Circuit's injunction pending the final litigation of the case. I don't think someone can look at the facts and not conclude that Obama was out of line for the EO that created DACA in the first place, especially given his own words saying it was not within the scope of office of the President of the United States. And with that simple mental step, it's hard to find any fault with Trump's simple request for a vote in Congress, the only part of the government with the Constitutionally-granted authority to legalize the "dreamers."
  • I will believe it when Trump actually does it.
  • Holy hell. That isn't what he said. And the law is the law. I'm going to start breaking the law left and right and I hope all is you come flooding to a message board defending it.
  • By definition, "illegal" immigrants have committed a crime by coming here by other than legal means.
  • That's right. Now we need Windows Central to explain why this might be good for Windows Phone.
  • What we need, actually, is wittier commenters on this site. Current batch is pretty weak.
  • Surface Phone?
  • You can't even formulate a proper question. Please stay on topic or leave.
  • Damn, Dan. You get really butthurt from some common trolling. Don't worry. I'll leave :)
  • Or just don't be a troll in the first place, that also works
  • That's unpastable
  • You mean the fake "Surface Phone" you told everyone was real 2 years ago isn't a topic anymore? Your writers find a way to shoehorn mobile junk into every other "article", why not this one?
  • Let em' have it Dan :)
  • Here's one. When are we deporting NUTELLA? What for you may ask? Oh, I dunno, economic terrorism LOL
  • If they've been in the country so long that they've been through school/college/university, have jobs, contributing to society with their tax $ then they should have an automatic entitlement to stay...
  • Then pass a law to make it so.  That is the point. We have laws. I know Democrats find it hard to understand as they have recently started to pick and choose the federal laws they like and ignore the ones they don't. President Obama made it easy to do.  DACA by its formation has no legal teeth. If you want them to stay tell your Congress represnatives to make an actual law, not some illegal move by a pass President. A move that the Supreme Court would almost certainly call an unconstituional  when it reached their domain.
  • Nice little wall you guys are hiding behind. Just come out and say you believe they should all be deported instead of touting the law and order BS literally a week after Trump just pardoned someone.
  • No, they've been in the country so long that they've exploited untold amounts of welfare and other entitlements.
  • What don't you Trump people understand that illegals can't receive wellfare benefits.
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  • Troubling for those who will be ejected from the US.  Sad for the US who get close to a billion dollars every time a DACA recipient reapplies. Sad for the businesses who will lose the productivity.  But, good news for the GOP.  The DNC have long said they'd become the de facto party of America with enough immigration diversifying the populace.  This is just Republicans trying to keep America great for the white minority. Here's hoping other developed nations open their immigration rosters to these folks.  I hear most are good people.    This was supposed to be a root level comment, but it keeps reappering in this thread..... Grrr.
  • It's always a b***h to have to give up power you've held for 300 years. Trump voters need to keep worrying. If the DREAMers get deported, it'll be but a tiny ripple that will have little effect in averting their fears of white dispossession by 2050. White genocide is STILL coming.
  • Yes it might sound "cruel" to "send poor children out". But they're not going alone, anyway. They'll be accompanied by their parents who will also be deported. Laws exist for a reason. The US has a clear (even if bureaucratic) system for immigration. If people don't want to abide by it, they face the consequences. And since children aren't exempt from following the law... What Obama did was nothing more than a populist move to grant him the vote of illegal aliens who meanwhile found a way to get citizenship whilst trying to appease the conservatives.
    What Trump is doing is simply cleaning the house and putting some order into it (in his own convoluted braggadocious way). If you allow immigration to run rampant you end up with the sh*tshow that Europe has turned into after the fall of the Empires. We were flooded with illegal immigrants who came from the former overseas territories. And then Schengen took care of making a pigs breakfast of the entire continent with those same illegal immigrants finding a way into countries with relaxed immigrations laws who provided them with an European identity card that allowed them to roam freely.
    And now we get those "lovely" Islamic terrorist attacks, fueled by that fat b*tch who runs Germany's policies of wanting to force European countries to take in "refujihadists". Ending DACA might SEEM cruel. But it isn't. It's a step in the right direction of putting order into US immigration. Because ultimately, an orderly immigration process is far more beneficial to America than the current disastrous policies made and mended over the knee by consecutive administrations.
  • EDIT: nevermind, I misread
  • What Trump just did was nothing more than a populist move to his white, racist base.
  • @Dennis Wilson1, by default I assume pretty much every politician seeks to appeal to his/her base to retain support of the electorate. However, I think you may misunderstand what Trump did. He effectively extended DACA by 6 months to let Congress come up with legislation to address. He had to act, due to deadlines in filed lawsuits. And the consensus among legal scholars apperas to be that DACA would have been struck down by SCOTUS eventually anyway. Trump could have simply cancelled DACA. He didn't. I'd say those that support it should be thanking Trump for giving the best possible shot at keeping those "Dreamers" in the US, and making it LEGAL. Note that DACA never made their presence here legal, it just instructed our immigration officials (ICE) not to deport them.
  • Dennis, your racism is showing. Trump did illegals a favor.  He's forcing Congress to address this issue once and for all and to ractify it into law. 
  • Obama made something illegal legal? That way of do the things that have the socialist is bullshit
  • Amen. Far too many snowflakes here at WC. Between Russell Holly, Jen Karner and Jez Corden, I'm surprised anyone knows what bathroom to use LOL
  • You don't live in America and obviously don't understand the laws. Obama did this to get votes? These people can't vote. What don't you understand about that? Just because you might be an a**hole doesn't mean that everyone is. Ending DACA is cruel and pretending otherwise is just you being intellectually dishonest. I have friends who've been in this country for 20 years, yet you want to kick them out of a country you don't live in. You want to destroy their livelihood and send them to a country they don't know. On another note. When did Windows Central become such an alt-right echo chamber?    
  • @Darkness690, I'm not sure if you were directing that comment about getting votes at me or someone else, but in case it was at me: winning an election isn't based on a poll, but on people who go to polls to vote. Because most issues (interstingly) tend to split the country pretty close to 50:50, money to advertise and voter turnout play a larger role than opinion. That means if a candidate of either party can generate strong emotions among his or her base, that candidate will probably win, because that results in writing checks and taking to the time to go vote. There are lots of Democrats who will open their checkbooks and turn out to vote against Trump if they are riled up believing that he's deporting good people, ergo the casting of this story as "Trump destroys DACA and deports children." In reality, Trump extended DACA for 6 months and asked Congress (the only body who really has the Constitutional authority to determine the fate of those immigrants) to do its job and legislate this. If you hear anger on this subject, trace it back to the source, and you'll almost certainly find it from a partisan looking to use this to keep the base agitated for better support, meaning fund-raising dollars right now and, if the anger sustains, turnout in the 2018 midterm elections. (Republicans do the same thing too with their issues, I'm not saying only Democrats or the left are guilty of these tactics) In other words, the fact that the immigrants themselves can't vote is largely immaterial to a comment on a politician doing something for votes.
  • @Darkness690 Just be glad none of these guys are president. I'll take Trump any day of the week vs most here. Granite is right. This wasn't the popular thing to do, and as you can see from the press conference, you can get a better idea of who was pushing to end it(cough* Sessions* cough).Trump was cornered and this was his only way out.  I'm just glad his racist base was too racist to elect Ted Cruz. That guy I considered scary. It's unfortunate I have to live in his state. Pretty soon it's going to be legal to racially profile people here. It's currently stopped by a judge, and we have a KKK member as the Attorney General. So, yeah, not looking good. Wish more people would get out and there and vote. I mean statistically there's more democrats than republicans in Texas anyways. No reason we should have Cruz, Abbot, and Paxton in office.
  • @DJCBS, well said and good to hear the perspective of a legal expert from outside the US. But what is "making a pig's breakfast"? That idiom must not translate so well. :-) I always love your posts. I often disagree with your take on Windows matters, but I always enjoy reading them anyway.
  • Why are we throwing politics on windows central. This article should of never have been published.
  • It affects out tech companies.  I for one am glad WC has chosen to cover this. 
  • "It affects out tech companies."
    Barely. Microsoft has over 100,000 employeees only 39 of which are dreamers.
  • Not your call on that and because Microsoft and many other tech companies have been very vocal on this topic. We cover Microsoft, ergo we cover this. If you find it offensive or not relevant you are free to skip over it.
  • To be clear what is your stance Daniel?  You wanted the Obama EO to stand- despite being legally weak? What exactly is so wrong with this?  it's 6 months to actually prepare legislation. Which is exactly what should be done.  So why all the concern?  IMO, all of this is overblown hyperbole.  If the idiots in congress really "care" about these people they'll do something about it.  But I'm not so sure either side can stop trying to slay the other long enough to actually do anything beneficial for the American people.     
  • I don't understand this argument. Legislation can still be passed without getting rid of DACA in the mean time. You are all trying to pass the blame from Trump.
  • What blame does Trump bear? Did he force Obama to pass a EO that surpasses the president's power? No, Obama is the reason for this issue in the first place.  The congress needs to pass something on this matter, they have 6 months to do so before the things get enforced.   I don't understand all the outrage.  
  • How can I explain my previous comment so you understand? He put an expiration date on DACA, he didn't have to. That is a fact and I blame him for doing that. I'll also blame Congress if they can't pass anything, it's not an either or. Republicans and Trump will share the blame if nothing gets done.
  • The more I see this inane virtue signaling from companies whose sole purpose should be to create things we want to buy, the closer they are coming to an all-out boycott in EVERY thing they make. I don't need a think tank-sanctioned, corporativized ethics lecture from a company that undermines that domestic "competitiveness" by driving down or stagnating wages through blanket immigration they lobby for as an excuse to exploit insourcing and outsourcing, that evades their fair share through tax shelters, and worst of all has products produced by slave labor.
  • You're right that it is corporations and billionaires that are responsible for driving down wages and ensuring it doesn't keep up with the rate of inflation so they can pad their short term profits. You're wrong in blaming immigrants, legal or not, as a scapegoat.
  • A: it makes them a prop in this argument. B: It actually does since the tech industry lobbies behind unrelated fields to exploit worker visa programs, etc. which does ultimately undercuts domestic labor. The current staff can always be replaced, but if they're replaces with foreign labor that works for a fraction of the pay, that by default will create an atmosphere that destroys incentive for competition, since now any domestic worker will now have to compete against someone that got the same eduction but works for less. The individuals aren't doing it intentionally but the people vouching for them and enabling are and they're doing it for ulterior motivations. We all saw this during the earlier migration periods - so many domestic farm workers didn't just simultaneously say "**** it" and quit their jobs picking that fruit...they were squeezed out (pardon the pun) by people who did it for much less and then that became the norm, which then gave birth to the "but who will pick the fruit argument". Finally, to clarify - I'm from a family of immigrants that did it all legitimately and am married to one doing it the right way so I'm not going to blame legal ones because they have legitimacy, and even those here through exploited visa programs have an air of legitimacy at least on paper. These don't - they're in a purgatory and it's because of the people who fostered their status and built a house of cards around a faux-entitlement to be here, yet somehow they are clean as the driven snow in all this. It was a farce for the last president to circumvent his restrictions so an utter, even further capitulation isn't the answer and sets the worst possible example
  • Wrong. Your argument about DREAMers (or immigrants) depreciating wages have long been debunked. They get paid the same as everyone else - so they have no negative effect on wages. What destroyed wages is the systematic destruction of unions in America by both Corporate Republicans and Democrats beginning with Ronald Reagan. It's no coincidence that the rise of the American Middle Class coincided with the rise of unions. It's also no coincidence that the rise of inequality and the collapse of middle class is occurring as Unions keep getting busted. Stop blaming immigrants for that. They didn't destroy unions.
  • DACA has no impact whatsover on the tech industry and that includes those 39 Dreamers the company employs. The MS press release is is just push back against the real game, H-1B visas. If you don't get that, then you haven't a clue about corporate government affairs and lobbying (note this p.r. comes from head of legal) .MS has a rather large lobbying outfit in DC,, tucked away in a big building right there up CT Ave in NW. Before the Clinton admin anti-trust suit against MS, the company had next to no presence in DC. They've learned a bit since. Now, I get that WindowsCentral has a duty to report an official MS announcement, but WC staff should refrain from politicking. We're not here for that and you'll only end up angering one side or other of a community that should be bound in common dedication to this product.
  • @Michael Bromley, good review of the facts. However, I think it's fun to have some occasional political discussion too, as long as it can remain friendly. I think it's interesting that people with whom I agree on many Windows matters may be on the opposite side of something like this and vice versa. It's a good lesson that smart (and not-so-smart) people can hold diverse points of view across various subjects.
  • All they are really mad about is that cheap labor is leaving and they will need to fill it with American citizens.
  • Does anyone really think DACA will be permanently limited to those that were brought here before 2007? With the lax enforcement of existing laws, liberal cities going out of their way to shelter people they know are here illegally, and the perpetual victimization of illegal immigrants by lobbying groups specifically set up to keep any meaningful legislative action from going through, it is inevitable that many children who were brought here after 2007 will find themselves in the exact same situation in a few years. There is no reason to expect the governmental leaders to grow a backbone and start throwing out 20 year old illegal immigrants next decade if they won't do so now. Until the USA can find a way to quickly identify people who are in the country illegally and send them back to their home country the situation will perpetuate itself. If we don't find a way to make it inconvenient and uncomfortable for illegal immigrants to remain in the USA then it will do nothing but encourage others to continue to come here with no fear of repercussion. Any immigration reform legislation needs to draw a hard line in the sand saying under no circumstances will anyone who arrived here illegally after a particular date will ever be eligible for citizenship. That law needs to be enforced uniformly and consistently.
  • Instead of titling the article as if it was something Trump is doing wrong (I know that's the popular thing to do), you could have nad a broader, more accurate title. Something that would show that Trump actually supports the DACA principles, but that it needs legislation because Obama's executive order that put it into law in the first place isn't a permanent or secure solution. Or really anything that's not meant to be click bait for liberals.
  • Wasn't gonna take the bait here, but screw it. There is literally nothing biased about the article title, and any attempt to read it otherwise is disingenuous. The Trump administration opted to rescind the EO implementing DACA. Microsoft spoke out against it. That is all that is in the title of the article. The content of the article reflects that, as I took a purposefully neutral tact in reporting on Microsoft's statement. That is all the article is — a report on what Microsoft has said on the issue. Just because something isn't overtly positioned with a conservative bent doesn't mean it's automatically liberal. This false crusade against "fake news" has caused far too many people to regard even the most neutral of articles as some sort of liberal agenda and it's frankly disgusting. But, hey. Let's just keep impulsively dismissing everything that doesn't conform to our worldview. That seems to be working out great for the world so far.
  • @Dan Thorp-Lancaster, I have no objection to the article or the subject matter. I'd even offer that it's reasonable for this site to default to siding with MS (after all, we're mostly MS fans here). However, there is a huge amount of news that is not validly sourced that is purely anti-Trump. It's not "disgusting" to call that "fake news." It may not be the most professional sounding term (maybe "poorly sourced news" or "opinion pieces masquerading as news" would be better), but it's a criticism that many news organizations have brought on themselves. They made a tactical choice to take a political point-of-view and push an agenda over facts. I think it's much worse and closer to "disgusting" for a news organization that claims to be objective and to use (abuse) that perceived objectivity to influence public opinion, than it is for critics to use less than professional terms to call them out for that betrayal of their trust as objective.
  • Well said Granite
  • Like it or don't like it, I'm tired of companies and people in the spot light speaking out on things that have nothing to do with why they are in the spotlight. Shut up, make your software and hardware and stop spouting off your political views.
  • ^This times 1 million. Shut up companies. If you want to wade into the political arena, then run for office. I don't buy MS products, because they support DACA. It might be best to just stay out of politics...and religion. These are the two things you stay out of if you want to avoid conflict.
  • For companies like MS its all about cheap labor.
  • Yep
  • So much ignorance in these comments. Makes me sad.
  • ^^ EXACTLY!^^
  • I agree!  The complete and utter lack of empathy is both sad and troubling.  I really have no words any more.
  • For those that seem to hide behind what the law is (just enforcing the law right) regarding immigration, women along with blacks were not allowed to vote at one time, interracial marriages was not allowed(you could get arrested for it, imagine that!?!), should trump sign an EO to undo all of those things, I mean, it was the law...right?(before it was changed) The inability of this country to learn from its mistakes and understand what it means to be on the wrong side of history never ceases to amaze me.
  • You don't even have a basic understanding of how laws or executive orders work.
  • Why should a President sign an Executive Order undoing laws that have already been undone? And why are you so fixated on specific classes of people? Why only complain about women (I will assume you are talking about white women) with "blacks" (such as antiquated term for a race of people, and I will also assume you mean men), when you could be complaining about white men with women of another race? Or do you just want to claim that white women with men who are not white were the only people who were descriminated against? You also seem very confused. It was the Democrat party and their members who wanted those very things you are now complaining about. Many of the elected Democrats still feel this way - for example, I think it was Chuck Shumer a few days ago was talking about how certian jobs - construction, housekeeping, etc. - are jobs that people who are not white want or can do. Imagine that, only brown people should be allowed to clean up after white people. The inability of people named Akira X to learn from his/her mistakes and understand history never ceases to amaze me.
  • @Akira X, please understand that what Trump did was push it to Congress and give them 6 months to make the law right. All the President can do with this (whether Obama or Trump) is choose how to enfore the laws passed by Congress. Based on the reasoning in your comment, it seems you would support his move.
  • More retarded politics on this site? Welcome to the verge.
  • Shut the f up Microsoft. Your job is to make software and save Windows phone. Not fing politics.
    The law is the law. The only people these Dreamers have to point the finger at is their parents for breaking the law in the first place.
    Keeping them here is one big step back for the law. This is the law. Time to start following it.
  • Tech wants that cheap labor so badly. Be careful Microsoft, this is why I strayed away from Google in the past couple years.
  • I wish people would take a step back and see the duplicity of the illegal aliens.  Why do they want to come here to the USA in the first place?  Ignoring all the handouts, it's because of the liberties and opportunites that we have here (that most born here often take for granted!)  But how come we have these opportunities compared to most every other country in the world?  It's due to the original principles our country was founded on (although NOT applied equally.)  We built a nation of laws, but the very first thing these people do is to deliberately break our laws.  Many of these illegal aliens are escaping corrupt countries where the rule of law is pretty much meaningless, which creates chaos and destroys liberty, and then come here with the demand to do the exact same thing, causing chaos! Now, specificially to DACA... while it is true that many children at the time of becoming illegal aliens in the USA may not have know they were breaking the law, all of them are old enough now to understand it.  How many other situations where the parents commit the crime do we not hold people accountable just because they have children?  If a parent robs a bank and transfers the money to their kid, do we not take that money back?  Yes!  If a family invaded your home, should you be forced to allow them to stay just because they brought a kid?  Of course not!  The children should NOT be able to profit from their parents' illegal activity, regardless of the crime.  Nobody has the right to invade another country and demand that they, or their offspring, be allowed to stay.  Each country is sovereign and must be allowed to make their own immigration laws.  If they can't, then their not really a country. Unfortunately, as a former 10 year Microsoft employee, it doesn't surprise me at all that the company has hired illegal aliens.  Long ago, I was actually chastised by HR for refusing to hire an illegal alien (from the Middle East) for one of our contracts.  (The applicant freely offered the information - I never asked because I thought HR took care of confirming work eligibility.)   And for those of you might think I'm pro-Trump, I"m NOT!  I'm a military veteran who took an oath to the Constitution (not to a political party) and didn't vote for him.
  • Microsoft can 'exercise its rights' all it wants. If we start enforcing our actual immigration laws, there's nothing they can do. And I fully support the position that anyone here illegally, whether they were brought as children, or came as adults, should return to their country of origin and apply to come here legally. There's also a legal guest worker program that has been around for decades where people with necessary skills (such as farm labor) can come here temporarily to work. There's nothing wrong with our immigration system. You have no right to demand that it be faster, or easier. It's a privilege to be able to come here, not a right.
  • Not to mention, most of these so-called 'dreamers' have been here for decades. Why the hell haven't they applied for citizenship? They have no excuse other than they don't want to pay taxes.
  • Dude, if it were that easy, everyone would be a citizen. It is VERY VERY COMPLICATED! 
  • Tough luck. Its not someone right to be a us citizen. They had decades to do it the right way, time for them to go. 
  • Yeah, but you're saying "They have no exuse other than they don't want to pay taxes," which couldn't be further from the truth.
  • Agreed.  
  • You are an immoral person with no sense of perspective. What do you get out of deporting people to an unfamiliar country? So you can tout the rule of law? Yay!
  • Remember when tech sites reported tech news and tech companies just lobbied instead of making media statements.  I really don't care what Microsoft thinks about the DACA, I don't even need an article on it on a tech site. 
  • Microsoft should care about Windows Phone instead.
  • Oh look, a Tech website has now become a political site, great idea. /s Guess this is what happens when the Windows Phone dies. :D
  • This is not politics, just business. Illegals immigrants are cheap employees. And when the Windows Phone dies Android will finally infect the world.
  • Yeah that is right
  • Two points are important here: 1. DACA is illegal. Regardless of your sympathy with the "dreamers", our government must be guided by the Constitution, or we will soon find ourselves no better off than a 3rd-world dictatorship. President Obama did not have the authority to institute DACA.  If we want this procedure to be enacted, it must be legislated by Congress. 2. Microsoft (and Google, Apple, et al) need to sit down and shut up about political issues.  I don't appreciate corporations with enormous platforms preaching to me about subjects on which they have no expertise.
  • Microsoft would do well to take a look at Kelloggs and Target before ******* off half their customer base!
  • Nobody asks Microsoft to be a political actor. I'm tired with all these tech companies being political. Mind your own business. There are plenty of people MS can hire in its own country.
  • lol, big surprise. Microsoft, a big corporation wants to be able to continue to take advantage of illegals at a cheaper wage because they don't pay taxes... Obama broke the law when he enacted DACA, Trump set things right by rescinding it. It's the Congress' job to create legislation. Perhaps they should actually work for their paycheck. Keep up the great work, Mr. President!
  • Like the rule of law or not we as a country cannot function with open borders. DACA was a feel good move made by Obama that merely kicked the can for another administration to deal with.  I am all for a path to citizenship but this needs to be done lawfully and not following executive orders, but rather under viable laws that can stand the test of time. If you want compassion the last place you want to look for it is in the legal justice system. We can however make long term laws that have compassion built in, but only new laws can fix it. I don't like President Trump, but the problem does belong in Congress to be solved under their processes, and not some Executive Office decision that cannot stand the test of time. Love him or hate the man Trump got this decision right because it's the law makers job to create law and the presidents role is to sign them into law. Get the Democrats to quit whining like babies and make them work together with Republicans to create a law to solve the problem. Why does doing their job have to be such a big issue? 
  • Well, I certainly hope this doesn't hurt Microsoft's business lines. The loss of the 39 people at Micrsoft who this could impact would be devastating to the company.
  • As much as I love Microsoft, I wish they would stay out of political issues. Here are some thoughts that many will not see on network news. I hope that open minded dialogue will prevail and not political hyper spin. CONGRESS must fix this issue, not the news media.   •            Yesterday, faced with the prospect of the potential immediate termination of the entire DACA program, the Trump Administration took the responsible and constitutional step: phasing out the program over the next two years. •            The DACA program was unlawful, its authors said as much, and ran the risk of leaving hundreds of thousands with no legal protection. •            The decision reaffirms the Trump Administration’s long-stated and ongoing commitment to the rule of law, and gives Congress a six-month window to responsibly address federal immigration law. •            The President is committed to fairness and that has to start with being fair to Americans and people here legally. •            We must be fair to the five million American citizens currently unemployed who fall within the age range of DACA recipients. •            We must be fair to legal immigrants who went through the process as it was designed. •            The Responsibility Lies With President Obama, Whose DACA Program Clearly Violated Federal Law. •            President Obama’s DACA program is clearly unlawful. How do we know? President Obama said it himself. In a 2011 town hall, he acknowledged: •            “There are enough laws on the books by Congress that are very clear in terms of how we have to enforce our immigration system that for me to simply through executive order ignore those congressional mandates would not conform with my appropriate role as President.” •            Repeatedly, prior to his 2012 announcement of DACA, President Obama admitted he had no legal authority to ignore federal immigration law. But bowing to politics in an election year, he reversed course to authorize the program in what he even then called “a temporary stopgap measure.” •            The Trump Administration’s Hand Was Forced By A Pending Court Case. Pending litigation from states attorney general with a deadline today forced the Administration to take action. A likely loss meant that the program would be rescinded entirely with no time to avoid inevitable disruptions. •            An Immediate Rescission Of DACA Was Likely. •            The matter is before the same judge who struck down another one of President Obama’s unlawful immigration orders, the Deferred Action for Parents of Americans (DAPA) program earlier this year. That program was terminated, effective immediately. The Administration wanted to avoid a similar ruling that would prevent the necessary runway for an orderly end to the program and time for Congress to act. The President Deserves Credit For Laying Out A Responsible Six-Month Runway For Real Reform. •            No current DACA beneficiaries should have their status expire before March 5, 2018. If their status is scheduled to expire prior to that date, they can apply for a renewal.  This will allow time for Congress to responsibly address federal immigration law in an appropriate and constitutional manner – through the legislative process. •            DACA Was Never Supposed To Be A Permanent Solution. •            Upon its announcement, President Obama declared, DACA is “not a permanent fix.  This is a temporary stopgap measure,” adding “[p]recisely because this is temporary, Congress needs to act.” Even he understood ignoring federal law was not the solution, Congress addressing the laws is the only solution. •            Critics Should Look To Congress For A Solution. •            All those critical of the Administration’s decision have one place to look for a solution: Congress. Republicans and Democrats alike – including members of Congress – understand that it’s Congress’s appropriate and constitutional role to make federal immigration laws. They now have an opportunity to act. •            Rescinding DACA Does Not Lead To Mass Deportation. •            The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) sets enforcement priorities that focuses on convicted criminals, recent illegal entry and visa overstays. These priorities have not and will not change. •            DACA Is A Work Permit And Federal Benefits Program, It’s Not Primarily About Deportation Relief. •            Under the Trump Administration’s enforcement guidelines, the overwhelming majority of DACA recipients need not fear deportation. Recession of the program will eventually lead to work permit renewals being denied, and federal benefits being cut off, not widespread deportation. •            Rescinding DACA Does Not Target Children. •            There is a misconception that DACA beneficiaries are children. While they were minors when entering the United States,  the overwhelming majority are adults. The average person who has received a work permit under DACA is in his or her mid-20s. They range from ages 15 to 36. •            President Obama’s Unlawful Immigration Orders Fueled Illegal Immigration And Undermined The Rule Of Law. •            President Obama’s many unlawful immigration actions, including DACA in 2012, helped fuel illegal immigration. The surge in unaccompanied minors in 2014 was a humanitarian crisis of Washington’s making. Hundreds of thousands of Central American children headed north, creating a boon for criminal gangs and smugglers, under the false promise that America’s immigration laws would not be enforced. •            The Trump Administration Stands For The Rule Of Law. •            Whether enforcing federal law or cracking down on sanctuary cities, the Trump Administration will advocate for the rule of law.   STATEMENT FROM PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP   As President, my highest duty is to defend the American people and the Constitution of the United States of America.  At the same time, I do not favor punishing children, most of whom are now adults, for the actions of their parents.  But we must also recognize that we are nation of opportunity because we are a nation of laws.   The legislative branch, not the executive branch, writes these laws – this is the bedrock of our Constitutional system, which I took a solemn oath to preserve, protect, and defend.   In June of 2012, President Obama bypassed Congress to give work permits, social security numbers, and federal benefits to approximately 800,000 illegal immigrants currently between the ages of 15 and 36.  The typical recipients of this executive amnesty, known as DACA, are in their twenties.  Legislation offering these same benefits had been introduced in Congress on numerous occasions and rejected each time.   In referencing the idea of creating new immigration rules unilaterally, President Obama admitted that “I can’t just do these things by myself” – and yet that is exactly what he did, making an end-run around Congress and violating the core tenets that sustain our Republic.    Officials from 10 States are suing over the program, requiring my Administration to make a decision regarding its legality. The Attorney General of the United States, the Attorneys General of many states, and virtually all other top legal experts have advised that the program is unlawful and unconstitutional and cannot be successfully defended in court. There can be no path to principled immigration reform if the executive branch is able to rewrite or nullify federal laws at will.   The temporary implementation of DACA by the Obama Administration, after Congress repeatedly rejected this amnesty-first approach, also helped spur a humanitarian crisis – the massive surge of unaccompanied minors from Central America including, in some cases, young people who would become members of violent gangs throughout our country, such as MS-13.   Only by the reliable enforcement of immigration law can we produce safe communities, a robust middle class, and economic fairness for all Americans.   Therefore, in the best interests of our country, and in keeping with the obligations of my office, the Department of Homeland Security will begin an orderly transition and wind-down of DACA, one that provides minimum disruption.  While new applications for work permits will not be accepted, all existing work permits will be honored until their date of expiration up to two full years from today.  Furthermore, applications already in the pipeline will be processed, as will renewal applications for those facing near-term expiration.  This is a gradual process, not a sudden phase out.  Permits will not begin to expire for another six months, and will remain active for up to 24 months.  Thus, in effect, I am not going to just cut DACA off, but rather provide a window of opportunity for Congress to finally act. Our enforcement priorities remain unchanged. We are focused on criminals, security threats, recent border-crossers, visa overstays, and repeat violators.  I have advised the Department of Homeland Security that DACA recipients are not enforcement priorities unless they are criminals, are involved in criminal activity, or are members of a gang.   The decades-long failure of Washington, D.C. to enforce federal immigration law has had both predictable and tragic consequences: lower wages and higher unemployment for American workers, substantial burdens on local schools and hospitals, the illicit entry of dangerous drugs and criminal cartels, and many billions of dollars a year in costs paid for by U.S. taxpayers.  Yet few in Washington expressed any compassion for the millions of Americans victimized by this unfair system.  Before we ask what is fair to illegal immigrants, we must also ask what is fair to American families, students, taxpayers, and jobseekers.   Congress now has the opportunity to advance responsible immigration reform that puts American jobs and American security first.  We are facing the symptom of a larger problem, illegal immigration, along with the many other chronic immigration problems Washington has left unsolved.  We must reform our green card system, which now favors low-skilled immigration and puts immense strain on U.S. taxpayers.  We must base future immigration on merit – we want those coming into the country to be able to support themselves financially, to contribute to our economy, and to love our country and the values it stands for.  Under a merit-based system, citizens will enjoy higher employment, rising wages, and a stronger middle class.  Senators Tom Cotton and David Perdue have introduced the RAISE Act, which would establish this merit-based system and produce lasting gains for the American People.   I look forward to working with Republicans and Democrats in Congress to finally address all of these issues in a manner that puts the hardworking citizens of our country first.   As I’ve said before, we will resolve the DACA issue with heart and compassion – but through the lawful Democratic process – while at the same time ensuring that any immigration reform we adopt provides enduring benefits for the American citizens we were elected to serve.  We must also have heart and compassion for unemployed, struggling, and forgotten Americans.   Above all else, we must remember that young Americans have dreams too. Being in government means setting priorities. Our first and highest priority in advancing immigration reform must be to improve jobs, wages and security for American workers and their families.    It is now time for Congress to act!
  • Hello.   My name is Sean, an Israeli – American who was studying computer science, and I had a title insurance broker’s license, before my life changed in an instant in March of 2005.   Now I am speaking fluent English again, walking with a lofstrand crutch for at least 3.500 feet (1,066 m) in physical therapy, am working on presenting my work in both occupational therapy, and the Traumatic Recovery of Universal (TRU) program at the Livingston, New Jersey location.   Therefore. I am going to take life and health insurance, and title insurance starting in May of 2018, because I want to do more, and this election has given me hope for the future.
  • Futhermnore, I wish Microsoft would do as i have suggested several times on here: Continue Windows 10 Mobile (or some Windows OS) on MS branded phones. Continue to develop the next cool new thing and let customers decide if they want a phablet or a phone...two rivers heading to the same place is a win for everyone.
  • Harboring fugitives while letting their core business model die off. Neat trick, right there. #HireAMERICAN
  • I guess the dream had to end some time
  • THANK YOU MICROSOFT!
  • So, when are we finally going to lock this useless political thread. I had not realized this place was turning into Youtube, based upon the comments section.
  • The D stands for deferred. Deferred action for these 25 year old children. Because the worst president ever didn't have a spine to take action and delayed it. If if if if if if if if if if if if if if if... just a bunch of okie doke.
  • Right about now the Billionaire donor class and their corrupt political allies from both the Left and the Right are over the moon celebrating their success at rendering Americans so stupid that they once again blame illegal immigrants for depressed wages instead of their systematic destruction of Unions beginning with Reagan's Presidency. It's no coincidence that the rise of the American Middle Class coincided with the rise to power of Unions. It ain't a coincidence either that inequality rose with their collapse. Wake up ya slaves.
  • So refreshing to see such a push back to the SJW left wing idealogoy that's been slowly destroying western society for the last 50 years. Moved from Europe to escape it, Europe is a massive disaster caused by left wing ideology. I thought USA would be a safe haven. I worry it's gone too far already though. However some of these comments give me hope that we can go back to the founding principles of limited government, state power, and upholding the constitution.
  • Microsoft please stay out of politics! Companies need to remain neutral in this day and age of politics.