Microsoft wants an iTunes Windows 8 app but Apple isn't liking the idea
It will come as no surprise that Microsoft wants Apple to create a Windows 8 app of iTunes, the popular media player that also helps consumers manage iOS hardware and more. A desktop version of iTunes is available and works well in desktop mode on a Windows 8 machine, but what if you're running Windows RT or would like to enjoy a native experience?
So what's preventing an iTunes being listed on the Windows Store? Apple, according to CNN Money. Tami Reller, chief financial officer of Microsoft's Windows division, had the following to comment on the situation:
The Verge has added that iTunes is one of the most searched for apps on the Windows 8 Store, leading Microsoft to actively attempt to secure a native app for its consumer base. So what would a Windows 8 app bring to the platform? A native experience for a start, along with the ability to run on hardware powered by Windows RT.
A touch-friendly experience for those with such an interface would put Apple's media player on the same level as Microsoft's own Xbox Music. The desktop mode is useful, especially if you have a mouse (or similar pointer device) at hand, but it can prove trick to use iTunes with the finger.
So why isn't Apple in a hurry to get an app developed for Microsoft's new desktop UI? It could well be Windows 8 is a competitor to its own OSX and the company already has a desktop version available. It's hard to say when Apple will look to introduce a native app for windows 8, but is the desktop version enough? Let us know your thoughts in the comments.
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By Jez Corden
This is just me looking for 2 minutes on Wikipedia.
One of my iPhone using friends got his phone lost/stolen last week so I lent him my old Lumia 900 and he really likes it! He even likes Zune desktop and was asking about how much the new ones cost but the problem is music management is such a mess right now that I honestly can't recommend him move yet. :/
I've downloaded a few songs specifically to my phone but am using my old Omnia7 as my music player now as I can still use Zune to manage my collection and sync to my phone with no fuss.
The Windows 8 team is getting a lot of grief for "stubbonly" getting rid of the start button but I think the Windows Phone team did a lot more damage by changing things that weren't ready to be changed. I don't mind change at all and was really excited for the Xbox Music switchover but it clearly was about a year away from being truly useful for anything beyond playing music (though initially it wasn't all that good at doing that either...)
As for iTunes, right now it's a better system than what Microsoft offers for Windows Phone. My friends with iPhones can manage and play their music and videos, sync them to their phone, and even backup and restore their phones all within one desktop program. I can't do any of that with one program with Windows Phone 8. Heck, I can't even backup and restore my phone AT ALL.
Sorry, that descended in to a rant I wasn't planning on but suffice to say there are much bigger hurdles to jump than get iTunes onboard right now.
What the heck do they do overthere??? Somebody needs fired over at Microsoft. Why would you want to create compition against your own product?
https://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions/sug... I have also started a WPC thread asking for WPC to bring more attention to the XBM issues. As I don't think MS is taking it very seriously:
I better get off the internet.
Plus, those products make you money, MS wants people to use them, they want to sell more licenses. Taking that away, especially with Office being one of their more profitable software packages iirc, does nothing but hurt everyone and drive them into the arms of the native apps for their ecosystems.
(I know FB events are supported, but I haven't gotten far enough along to see if "private" events show up correctly. I have a workaround in place for Google calendar where I use a middle man, my own server, to grab FB events and rewrite the full calendar to flip Private events to Public. Technically if someone knows my middle man server URL, complete with private FB id and key, they could able to see some event details, but the same is true for anyone with someone's private FB calendar URL. Anyway, if I can point Outlook.com to that private custom URL, I could make the switch.)
Microsoft could've done the same thing with Zune but they didn't which baffles me.
Zune is actually the thing I miss the most with WP7. And its the reason why I think about getting a WP7 device again too.
I have 65GB of music, most bought through Zune. They are synced to my phone (most, 62GB worth on SD), but I have 0 playlists because they will not sync (ZPL, WPL, M3U, none of them). That's the problem. Unless you stream, it sucks and who wants stream their own collection? i.e., pay for music you already own because of data charges.
I don't understand why people think the XBM app is difficult or broke. Now if you are having issues with it crashing and stuff then so be it, but I've yet to have that issue. So far I'm liking the app more every day.
All my music, aside from the live stuff that was never officially released(wich I can't fault them for), I can play on or download to my phone right now without plugging it in.
This is what Microsoft is depending on when it comes to new windows users, anyone who didn't use Zune would not know how poorly implemented the Xbox music/video/games are.
Yes, it would be nice if the wirless synce for playlists would work better, but it's not like playlists can't be done.
And all the people on the (now closed down) 'Master List Of issues' thread:
Not forgetting the WPC thread I started!
I have no problems launching iTunes from the metro interface. The only thing I hate about iTunes is, movies I buy on iTunes can't be put on my windows phone..
And people complain about xbox music...
I don't like iTunes, its a pain to use with the 3 devices we have, but its sadly the best way of dealing with the iphones/ipods. Give me Windows Media Player and drag and drop anyday.
People in US just hate MS and MS should accept it and concentrate on markets where people loves them.
Pop culture is ruining my country, and it goes way beyond product selection.
All this and it doesn't have to refer to an index library file that you don't have to rebuild every time you add new songs. I worst part of using iTunes is having duplicates songs because it needs to auto organize everything and having multiples of the same song with a number added to the end of the filename.
If you have a Pro tablet, then install the desktop version.
This is just another example really of how confusing it was to have 'Win 8 RT' vs 'Win 8 Pro'
Fix Xbox music and video. Then pull all of your apps that are available to apple devices. Done. I fucking hate it when companies receive apps from their competitors but won't give any back.
That being said, I continue to use my Surface as a consumption device and I continue to perform certain functions as if it was a windows phone which gets so frustrating. Microsoft needs to allow developers to be able to write for x86 windows and have an easy way to convert it for RT or they need to make RT more like windows phone so they can code for only 2 platforms and not 3.
One thing iTunes does on purpose it make everything but purchasing difficult. That level of misdirection takes some effort.
It would be impossible for Apple to take iTunes and "convert" it to a Windows store app. It isn't written in C#, or .NET, or any other Microsoft framework. Apple would have to develop a brand new Windows store iTunes client from the ground-up in Microsoft's Windows Store framework. This is exceptionally unlikely.
Apple's long-term plan here is (most likely) to just allow iTunes to whither. iTunes used to be required to use Apple's devices. Now it is optional. You can buy any iOS device and never use iTunes. Over time iTunes becomes less and less important.
itunes is terrible and Xbox music is a hot, steaming mess. I'd be happy if MS fixed Xbox music but I'm not hopeful given how terrible their efforts have been so far. An odd oversight in an otherwise really good OS for both WP8 and W8 metro.
Does this mean there are no plans to improve the craptastic apps that are the default media players on your your own platform? Why not just bring Zune back and call it Xbox Media?