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More details emerge on Nokia's "Mountain View" Android phone, which is still being manufactured by Foxconn

Some new details have emerged on Nokia's alleged "Plan B" to build an Android phone running on Lumia hardware, in case things went South with their Microsoft partnership.

According to CTechCN, a site with a pretty solid history of reporting leaks, Nokia's Beijing Research and Development team designed an Android-powered smartphone codenamed "Mountain View" that was manufactured by Foxconn and had progressed to later stages of testing.

Reportedly the "Mountain View" was based on the Qualcomm Snapdragon 200 8225Q chipset and was what would be considered an economy, or entry-level device.

The project had advanced so far, in fact, that by the time Microsoft had announced that they had purchased Nokia's Devices and Services division, Foxconn had already produced about 10,000 of the devices. In reality, that number seems unlikely, especially since there have been zero leaks of this device. And even more amazing than the number of "Mountain View" phones floating around out there is that rumor has it that they will continue to be manufactured and tested until Nokia shareholders approve the Microsoft sale at the general meeting in November.

So if all of this Android stuff was just a backup plan in case Windows Phone flopped as a platform, why would Nokia continue to manufacture and test the "Mountain View?" One point of knowledge was that the original Microsoft-Nokia partnership was set to start renewal talks in 2014--not too far away. That renegotiation was to extended the Microsoft-Nokia partnership past 2016 as that is when the original deal from 2012 was set to expire. But if a deal was not reached, Nokia would be free to pursue other options, including an Android-based lineup. Having an Android strategy ready to go would have been a wise chip to play in those talks with Microsoft, an idle threat if you will.

There is some chatter that what remains of Nokia could re-establish a hardware division in two years time and pursue an Android strategy. That notion though seems unlikely due to the fact that Microsoft would control a lot of the hardware patents that Nokia used to own and Nokia would have to re-hire and re-establish an entire hardware division--that's a difficult task to pursue. Truth be told, what will remain of Nokia after the Microsoft deal goes through won't be geared towards hardware any longer.

One thing is for certain, Android enthusiasts would love to see an Android-powered device with sleek Nokia styling and packed with the kind of camera technology that Windows Phone users have been fortunate enough to experience.

Source: CTechCN (Translated by Bing); Via: UnwiredView

229 Comments
  • I'm sorry, but if they made a Lumia 1020 that ran Android, I'd totally buy one.
    Feel free to start attacking me now.
  • Pikachu thunderbolt NOW!!! lol
  • GET OFF THIS SITE. TRAITOR! TO THE GALLOWS WITH THING!
  • Haha,, nice one with the pokemon. but seriously, i hate anfroid now. even if nokia pursue android. Who wants an OS that everybody has. Whats unique in that? nothing, even cheap copy phones run on android. and make me sick. if android only give their OS to full fledge manufacturer. then its good, but. IMO, not a good idea to spread it like virus..
  • People who want the features and apps that come with said OS?
  • Android apps are inherently inferior to WP8 apps and the iOS ports they're based off of. There aren't any apps im jealous of when it comes to Cheapdroid. IOS is a different story though.
  • There's one big gotcha though: There're not many Android apps which are based "on" a WP8 version. In fact there're still not many good WP8 applications at all, let alone priceworthy and nastiness free ones (eager permission requests and annoying ads). I just noticed that now Linphone is available as a SIP client which is a good start, but there's still a choice of at least 20 different utilities missing + highend games. Luckily I don't do gaming on my Lumia and have decent devices for my utilities.
  • If you still think all Android apps are based off of iOS ports, then you haven't paid attention to Android in 2+ years. Every app on my phone is built specifically for Android, and is Holo styled (just for Android). Take your Microsoft blinders off and pay attention to what's happening back in the real world.
  • well dont we want WP to become just as popular as Andorid? and when i do see WPs everyday (whenever that is) it will be a weird feeling.
  • That's something I've been pondering myself. In once sense, it'd be awesome for Nokia and Microsoft to reign triumphant once more, like a phoenix rising from the ashes. It'd also be so easy to share and interact with everyone, due to things like Tap+Send and other great Windows Phone social features. The world would play nicely with each other. But at the same time, despite me relentlessly pushing for Nokia to succeed, it'd be the Apple or Android camp all over again. People mindlessly buying devices just to fit in, not think for their own. Windows Phone would lose its unique quality and just become another trend. I'd be somewhat disappointed, my personal decision for choosing Windows Phone above all else would lose all merit because everyone and their brother would be buying them up. With great power comes great responsibility. I'm not entirely sure if I want Windows Phone to wield such power, just yet.
  • Nobody will buy a Windows Phone just to fit in.
     
    However, as you note, people are flocking to carriers and iStores to jump on the latest and greatest Apple device since the latest and greatest Apple device. As Paul Thurott put it, "Think different, indeed."
     
    And with Android, they can buy a phone that will never be like anyone else's no matter how hard they try. Mismashed messes in most cases. Loaded with carrier garbage, different launchers depending upon OEM and carrier, and in many cases, inspite of the great hardware inside, clothed in cheap plastic. Very few of them (perhaps HTC and Samsung aside) are more than throw aways with give away OS. 
     
    Would an Android Nokia be a great device. I am certain it would. Do I think it should happen? Definitely not. Microsoft currently makes a tidy sum on each Android set sold and ongoing legal issues would make putting out an Android phone themselves seem foolhardy.
  • So what if it is everywhere, if something is good it doesn't matter. It just isn't so good. Still if there was a dual boot, so people could run the odd missing app then it'd be handy. Scrapping my phone and swapping WP for Android however, never.
  • I once had android for 2 months.. Ended up having the Windows phone skin on it..
  • ROFL! Funny Pikachu reference.
  • You should buy Android and not wait for Nokia, there are a lot of them running around.
  • I would if there was one that was built like a Nokia with a Nokia/Zeiss camera. There isn't.
    I like WP. I also like Android. Right now, Android seems to be able to do more things, but WP is good as well. If the two could be combined, I'd be really happy. 
  • I used to own a Nokia E32 and I don't know which OS is running but that OS is very slow, and I gave it to my mother.
  • but why your mother? she has lots of patience that you don't have?
  • My mother wouldn't mined she just makes calls but at the moment she has a blackberry which is better than Nokia E32. Later I will give her or buy her a WP8. I don't have patience when it come to making a simple phone calls.
  • My experience with Android is horrible. I used to owned a Galaxy Vibrant that is a P.O.S it always freeze on me when someone calls me and it lags like hell, and on top of it the GPS doesn't work.
  • Android is much different than it was three years ago. That's like judging a current Nokia Windows Phone like the 1020 based on your experiences with a a Samsung Focus.
  • One of my clients secretary has a Galaxy S3 and that's a mess trying to just add a simple exchanged account, and it still lags, but if you compare my old HTC Radar it's still running smooth with no problem.
  • I agree that Android definitely needs more higher powered phones to run smoothly while Windows Phone is smooth on just about anything.
  • My Samsung focus ran just fine without issues, so you comment is not valid when it comes to WP.
  • See my above comment "Android definitely needs more higher powered phones to run smoothly while Windows Phone is smooth on just about anything."
    My point is that you can't compare an operating system from 2010 to an operating system today. The Samsung Vibrant came out in 2010 and ran Android 2.x. The Samsung Focus came out in 2010 and ran WP7. Saying that Android today is just as bad as Android was in 2010 is like saying WP is the same today as WP7 in 2010.
    I wasn't comparing the phone quality. I was comparing the OS.
  • My HTC Radar runs fine too. Forced 7.8 via xda tools, and its a great backup. I primarily use it a remote for my desktop
  • Not true - even now Android still runs like crap on low-end hardware. And if you didn't know, that phone being developed by Nokia is a low-end Android so you're welcome to it. And don't tell me it would be better than all the other low-end Android crap out there because it's a Nokia. A low-end Android is crap no matter who makes it.
  • I had a Samsung Captivate and the GPS didn't work on that one either. So what did Samsung do, they first said that I had to wait for the updates, when that didn't work, then they tried to blame me. I will never go back to Samsung and Android.
  • That's funny we have the same problem with the same company, and two of my friends had the same issue too, and they both sold their phones.
  • IMO, Xperia Z1 is good enough to compete with 1020. If you need Android and has a great camera like 1020, you could consider it. Belive me. It's good enough. I'll stick with my 520 though :)
  • I still have a Sony Experia S1 with windows mobile 6.5 but the keyboard is bad. When it comes to phone Sony doesn't last too.HTC can give Nokia run for the money when it comes to Hardware. If Nokia makes Android I will go back to HTC they make great design and great hardware but crap services.
  • No OIS...
    try trolling with the LG G2 !!!
  • Could you give a link to a trustworthy and unbiased site that has tested the Z1 against the 1020 and said it's good enough to compete? All the reliable sites I know that tested both against the other have all said the 1020's camera is still unbeaten.
  • I think in terms of specs, Nokia's 41mp. Sensor on the 808 in 2012 and the 1020 in 2013 are a bit ahead of their time.
  • Really now? You too confusing..
  • Android will ALWAYS be able to do more things [than windows phone and iphone]. It's open-source. It's the user experience that matters in the end
  • Jf.Vigor I don't think you understand what open source is. In Android it's called open-sores.
  • What crystal ball are you using that allows you to confidently say "ALWAYS"  with regards to future things?!! A low-end Android is crap as it is and none of those low-end Android craps, no matter the maker and I'll throw-in that low-end Android crap Nokia is making into the mix, that can compete with the low-end 520/521
  • What exactly are you trying to do? I had a sgs3 with the works, keyboard, mouse, ps3 control, usb otg... It was a cool set up, but i hardly used it that way. I grew to hate the boring design and dull OS and was quick to pick up a lumia off contract when the price was right. Smartphones need to provide a niche service to the modern human being, more than 'pocket pc' android can provide.
  • Traitor :P
  • Well no need to attack your honesty alot of people would buy it
  • Why attacking? It's a free world and it's your money. It's a non issue though since that didn't happen.
  • Lol tell to some of these people...
  • Attack :)
  • Gun fire !! Fire in the hole delete ur comment ..
  • In a heartbeat. I always wish there was an Android powered Nokia when I left my Nokia E71 for a Nexus One. I hard a time giving up Android for the 900 cause lack of features. No regrets getting a 920 but still flip between the two OS as Android simply has more function. But love WP cause it just works.
  • so in other words... I dont even have a Windows Phone but i write here crap to get attention? wow...
  • I don't have a Windows Phone? I do and I'm looking at it right now. It's the only working cell phone I own. 
    Sometimes people can like two things. You don't have to hate Android because you like Windows Phone or Nokia. That's like saying "You're eating French fries! I thought you said you liked pizza!" You can like both.
    I have a Windows Phone. I have an Android tablet. I like both of them a lot.
  • CTFO
  • You're safe for now, but why would you want what would be under powered for an Android device?
  • I maybe would too.  If they released an android, my next phone would be an android, not necessarily a nokia though.
  • KAMEEEEEEEEHHH HAAAAAAMEEEEE  HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Sorry, but if Nokia developes a 1020 with Android, I won't buy this device.
  • That's fine. People have different opinions on different things. It's good to have choices.
  • Why not HTC One? The best android out there.
  • Hadouken!
  • Yoga fire Yoga flame
  • Okay!
  • SONIC BOOM!!!!!!
  • SPINNING BIRD KICK!!!!
  • Ctrl+alt+del
  • Still stuck in my mind, why the heck wp can't run android apps like bb10 or Jolla??!
  • Napalm strike on standby!
  • In order for Nokia to produce a 1020 on Android that matches the speed and reliability of a WP 1020 you would end up paying about $900-1000 for the device.
  • Same here die Stephen Elop & die Ballmer & Microsoft too..!!
  • You are on the wrong site.
  • Sine my views don't match with a biased/fanatic person like ya I'd prefer to ignore u like invisible sheet. I do poses 100% rights to be on this site and because i hold a WP Lumia 820 an Xperia Z1 iPhone 4. So keep trolling.
  • Die? Really? That's mature.
  • Hmm. That's a bit tribalistic. Please keep in mind that posts remain on sites for years.
    I may be biased, but I am not happy that Steve died or that the google execs should die because they made a bad decision.
  • Just to bandwagon it..Falcon PAWNCH!
  • Yeah! Me too dude.
    It would be better if Nokia provide you choice.
  • As long as Nokia used the standards as they have with WP, I'd give it a test drive too.
  • Hulk, SMASH!
  • I'd buy anything Nokia.
  • They wouldn't. Heavy investment with no reasonable expectation of selling units. Samsung owns Android sales. The mountain view device here is low end and that's the game Nokia would likely play. They could dominate the cheap and mid grade handsets easier than going after the big hitters.
  • 1020% agreed..!!!
  • I would buy a Nokia Android device in a heartbeat!!
    When I lived in Europe I bought the first nokia, and went the whole way up with nokia until I moved to the States. I was given a BB through my job, it was ok, nothing special, mainly for email and calls, then moved to iOS. Its OK, but not everything that apple makes it out to be. I prefer it jailbroken, as I can do so much more with it. 
    BTW I do have a Nexus 4, and again it's fine. I do heartedly agree that a lot of manufacturers mix and mash the OS, and that I dont like, I do like the true android OS, andyone I've spoken to who has a WP gushes about it, and I haven't heard ANY complaints, but I don't know. I love my apps, both on Android and iOS, and I still have feeling for Nokia, they really were THE manufacturer, not if I could dual boot a nokia with WP AND Android, hands down, I would give my 5S away in a heartbeat
  • What about something like a Nokia Lumia 929 that dual boots WP8 and Android 4.3? ;D
  • Of cause Nokia had a plan B, that doesn't mean they were going to follow thru on anything. Its natural that any company would do this. Moving on.
  • Exactly, that's why it's called a plan b. Only if the better plan fails, they try and go for the next best thing. In this case, Android. You could call it a desperation move or a plan b, whatever sound better for you :P
  • I wonder what Blackberry's plan b is? They better dig it out quick!
  • I've read a rumor that said they have an Android OS in one of their hardware but they couldn't make it run well. Perhaps if they were successful in making it run well, they would have profusely leaked it out by now.
  • They already went with plan B, allowing to run android apps on BB. Now they desperately need to run on plan C, D, or whatever.
  • This has been dream of mine....to have a hardware manufacturer release a Windows and Android Phone simultaneously across the world....same hardware, similar specs and price points. Then let the customers loose their minds.
  • What's is the difference between Symbian/Meego to an Android OS, they all look the same to me?
  • Kill it with fire! No Android on Nokia hardware. :)
  • i never Android because Android is harm vulnerabilities fake big apps store i think still WP is the best microsoft forever! i have nokia 925
  • If nokia somehow start making android phones what will happen with WP??ABANDONED
  • That's an extremely big "somehow". What if Microsoft somehow persuaded Google to ditch Android and go with WP? Android ABANDONED.
  • Who cares? There are tons of lagdroid manufacturers.
  • If Nokia made android phone I would buy an iPhone...period
  • HA HA...this might be the best response on the topic I've seen.
  • Yes hum :)
  • Same here, fucking hate android
  • +1020
  • I would buy Jolla Sailfish phone...
  • Android is the poor man's ios.
  • Could still happen, deal isn't done yet even though everyone acts like its signed and sealed. And with Nokia shareholders unhappy with the direction Elop took with WP this info could well persuade them to vote against the MS buyout and go for it with andy. And then what happens to WP? Could get very exciting come November....
  • Err. Doesn't shareholders usually only care about profits? If this sale is profitable for them, why would they object? They have a bright future a head with Nokia focusing on network infrastructure without worrying about mobile division dragging down profits.
  • Maybe, nut they could also care about the company itself and its heritage and not want to see that disappear. Regardless, the deal isn't done, apart from shareholders there are other regulatory approvals to go through so it's still premature to refer to the deal as done.
  • Shareholders care about taking more money for their shares than what they paid for them. Anything else is loss. So this deal means nothing to them but a big loss of money because an infiltrated-CEO didn't heard them when they demanded Android and he went with WP instead. Shareholders aren't looking that kindly towards MS and you can be sure it was because of them that they started developing this Android phone and not because of Eflop or Riisto.
  • hm.... im going to leve this right here for you mr insider.
    http://i.imgur.com/nia0hHl.jpg
  • Here's my advice: buy a dictionary. buy some books on commercial law and economics. Learn the difference between "board of directors" and "shareholders".
  • Disgusting.
  • Also, Apple were at the early stages of using android 1.3 on the 1st gen iPhone. Look at where they are today.
  • Source?
  • Heinz tomato ketchup
  • I am the only one who thinks that android doesn't fit well with the nokia's minimalistic shape?
  • There will be nokia's modifications to the android UI
  • or maybe you mean that they will change a little bit the shape of the phone, but it's ridiculous.
  • An advantage of Android over WP is that Google allows OEMs to shape Android at their will. If you pick up a Samsung, a Sony and an HTC, they can all run the same version of Android but none of them has the same UI.
  • thats one of the things i don't like on android
  • I like that variety. I am bored with WP UI.. :(.. I am looking to buy Asha 502 or 503 before they disappear to get a change once in a while. Hopefully MS will lnot kill these devices before they are launched.
  • That's not an advantage when it comes to Nokia. MS allowed Nokia to make any changes.
  • You know perfectly well that's not true. Otherwise Nokia wouldn't need to keep waiting for MS to release GDRs to allow them to make other stuff.
    Yes, Nokia can add some small things regarding the firmware, but not to the extend OEM's on Android are allowed to change. The only restriction Google seems to make (or that is visible, anyway) is that the OS looks similar. And they do. All Androids look the same but don't act the same. While WP looks the same and acts the same.
  • DJCBS, MS allowed Nokia all the freedom to make any changes. Nokia chose not to. "It could also be a bad day for other Windows Phone OEMs. During today's Financial and Strategy briefing, Nokia CEO Stephen Elop said that the company had a "unique relationship" with Microsoft, and that the deal was "not your mother's OEM deal with Microsoft" and that the deal also allowed Nokia to differentiate itself from other OEMs. Elop said that no details of this deal would be released, but all this talk of a cozy relationship between Microsoft and Nokia must make other OEMs uncomfortable. Nokia has already talked a lot about creating differentiation within the WP ecosystem and come up with unique hardware and services that will only be seen on Nokia handsets. Elop even suggested that Nokia had the power to change the WP UI to suit its needs, something that no other OEM can do. " http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/nokiamicrosoft-partnership-winners-an...
  • or beautiful nokia hardware with junk droid software it doesn't fit .its like putting a virus in your computer :D
  • I love windows phone, and I love android too. If Nokia made a flagship android phone, I would go "Bye bye windows phone!".
  • Me too! :)
  • That makes 3 of us. Nothing against WP but I'm sick of Microsofts attitude and laziness regarding their own OS.
  • they don't only treat Windows Phone, but also other services like Bing, Outlook, SkyDrive, etc. Just to take note.
  • That's why they're a big company. But that doesn't excuse them from the laid back attitude. They want a viable 3rd mobile OS, they must make sure the platform can effectively compete with the other 2. At this moment, WP can't because it lacks tons of stuff. They could have fixed many of those things when they went from WP7 to WP8. They didn't. They had 2 GDR's already to do that. They didn't (and they won't do it on the 3rd).
    They're not established as a hipster-brand like Apple. They can't afford to only change things once a year and ever so slightly.
    If it wasn't for Nokia pushing them and doing their work, we'd probably still be on WP7.
  • I'm curious.  What is stopping you from buying an Android now? Nokia is not the only hardware maker than can make solid well built phones, the HTC One and the latest Sony come to mind.
  • I actually do have an android phone, the nexus 4.
  • if nokia made a flagship android i would go Bye Bye Nokia glad Microsoft Bought Nokia and i hope this deal get approved
  • +1 People seem to forget it was Nokia that wasn't going anywhere, not WP7.
  • Nokia has to have a plan B, but no Android device could be as good as its WP equivalent.
  • I guess that's the whole plan to prove Android doesn't fit in just like WP or may be its a trick to make MS guessing before the deal is done and pitch for more money. I switched to Lumia for better hardware and did not want an Android OS...so I would not switch to Nokia running on Android.
  • Android enthusiasts can eat my cookies.
  • I hope it freezes of they make one for android!
  • Plan B is birth control (or Android)
  • If
  • Funny that the code name is of the city where Microsoft research is based.
  • It's also where the "Googleplex" is.
  • It would take 2 mins to process a photo .lol
  • Lol
  • Not having hardware side isn't actually true. NSN R&D centers that has since NSN created been the most R&D heavy part of the company.
    One mobile or mobile related side they still hold Helsinki R&D center in Otaniemi and Cambridge R&D that is specialised in materials, part of Nokia's Advanced Technologies formed after MS acquisition next to NSN and HERE. Nokia has been leader in graphene and was granted 1.4 billion grant to develope it further year ago.
    Nokia & Advances technologies keeps that. Nokia & Advances tecnhologies essentially holds future patents and old. It's purpose now is to hold patents, create new materials and create new patents. 
    It's not at all hard to imaging Nokia creating new mobile company with +10 billion net cash reserves (and most of all proftable business it holds now). I doubt they will manufacture phones ever after this, but then, neither does Apple.
    They could essentially also buy Jolla for peanuts and put more cash to that. Jolla is after all safe house for Nokia's old MeeGo/Maemo team. 
     
    Granted I think joining Android in 2 years time sounds more plausible. 
  • I think they want to get rid of the devices for now and have an option on 2016 to decide what they want to do. By that time the feature phones will be a think of old.. They can persue the Apple model of using Foxconn and not deal with factories and stuff.. place order and get it done and reap profits.
  • I hate android UI!
  • which one of them??
  • HAHA. Good one!
  • If Nokia builds an android...ill give up smartphones.
  • There is still hope that Nokia shareholders stop this acquisition nonsense. And there's also hope that the Finnish government realizes the harm this will do to their GDP and prohibit it also. Some
    American-arrogance has been trying to pass this deal as done...it's far from done.
    I still hope Nokia survives this hostile move. Although by now I'd rather see them turn to Android, I wouldn't even mind if they kept WP only, as long as they remained independent from Microsloths fat greasy lazy hands.
  • Fuck off with your "American arrogance" shit. There's no basis for that nonsense.
  • Here's the basis: go see from where come all articles that take this deal for granted. Even here at WPC, only Daniel keeps stressing that the deal is not done. Sorry if it bothers you, but that assumption bothers everyone else much more.
  • Daniel is American. You can try to rationalize your bigotry all you want, don't expect me to buy your BS.
  • It's not my fault if you CAN'T READ.
    Or "Some Americans" and "All Americans" is the same to you? If it is...I'm assuming you failed all your english classes.
  • Bigot.
    Stop editing your comments.
  • Is this enough to TTYL this guys account please? WPCentral staff, where you at?
  • They're here. They're just not stupid like you. They know the meaning of "respecting different opinions".
  • DjCBS, fuck off.
  • See: "IMO". ;)
  • The Microsoft European DataCenter is going to Kajaani (or Oulu)
    so the Finnish government is already in the pockets.
    Also they already asked from the major share holders
    so it's a deal
    The Nokia sign will change to Microsoft sign in many places around the Globe
    and no Android phones now!
    It's
    "Lumia" smartphones
    "Asha" feature phones
    "Nokia" basic phones
  • You base all of that in...wishful thinking?
  • go back to your retarded android junk
     
  • as soon as you go back to under the bridge where you came from.
  • im not familiar with your home but thanks for telling me where you live  don't worry i'll come and visit you some day
  • I'm starting to think that this clown has never even used a Windows Phone. I think he's just one of those loser fanboys that troll other sites.
  • I like how it still has a Windows logo button at the bottom. A real image? I dunno about that.