Skype video chat is a fantastic way to keep in touch with friends, family and business contacts, but up until now, it was only as good as who was in front of their device at any given moment. All of that has changed with Skype's new Video Messaging feature, which is essentially video mail.
It allows you to record a video, up to three minutes long, and send it to any contact, whether they are online or offline. Then, once your contact signs in, they will see your message waiting for them and can view and respond at their own leisure. Fantastic, right?
Well, yeah, as long as you are on anything other than Windows Phone. You see, Skype's latest service is available for Skype for Windows desktop, Skype for Windows 8, Skype for Mac, Skype for iPhone, Skype for iPad, Skype for Android and let's throw in Skype for BlackBerry. With Skype being purchased by Microsoft over two years ago, it begs the question, "Huh?"
Sure, despite Skype now being a subsidiary of Microsoft, it is still its own company. However, Microsoft has signaled that Skype will be at the center of communications for all of their devices and services, and yet, they have neglected to include Skype's latest feature in their own operating system whose focus is that of communicating. Meanwhile, they have opted to bring Video Messaging to all of Windows Phone's competitors.
There's not even a mention in the announcement that Skype for Windows Phone will be getting this feature. In fact, they go so far as to say:
Video messaging is now available to all Skype users. You can send and receive as many video messages as you want – completely free of charge. Video messages can be received and viewed on any platform or device running Skype.
Umm, Skype...Aren't you forgetting somebody?
We reached out to Microsoft and the Skype team for a comment on the lack of Windows Phone support and received the following response:
“Windows Phone users can already receive and view Video Messages. We will inform you if we add send capability at a later date.”
So there you go folks: it's not there yet and may come in the future, but it doesn't sound like it's happening anytime soon. Begin ranting in comments in 3, 2, 1...
Source: Skype
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Any hope for my Lumia 800?
I been a loyal Windows Phone user but I feel its time to move to another OS. Windows Phone 8 users are getting no support, even from Microsoft. We always have to wait on third party developers. Glad I waited to see how things are. I will not be upgrading to Windows Phone 8.
We may as well get iPhones if Microsoft is putting everything on other platforms, because if I know that I'm going to get the best experience on other platforms then why not!
Typical MS Response.........ignorant bollocks fob off response, that company can't yell shit from sugar its fcuked
No matter what you all say, i know you love being the new, the alternative, the "think different" people of 2010's, that's why you're a WP user.
Even after three years of WP I still admire the way the OS was originally conceived. A pure information hub, no faux graphics and eye candies, you got so much information in your hand, and that's what WP is all about.
I can't imagine me using a different phone than my Ativ S, this thing is light, thin, has amazing battery, fluid, full of information, great games and is also an awesome business device.
It's just stupid, no excuse is acceptable.I've been with WP since its launch(HTC Mozart) and was palning to get a 925 ASAP, but now I think why should I waste my money and energy defending an OS, when publisher itself don't care about it.
They want to bring it with 8.1? thats six month from now. We are always using an older version of apps, or we don't have those apps when it's an google app, but now it's a MS app, why should Google OS(which dosn't give a c... about us) have this but not the MS os it self.
I'm so damn mad.
I have smart glass in my iPad and I'm sure any MS app in iOS is better than WP8.
Yeh lets hope for that in the next update..
Something tells me MS has something specially for us WP users.
I hope its bake into the os, we would really love that
could be true
Not sure why so much complaint about Skype in wp8? Yes, there few secure issued need to be done before upcoming update coming. Why wouldn't people used the ROOM feature in wp8 to share pictures, calendar, chat, & notes. There is also Skydrive share features too. Are people forgot about these features?
Looks bad, nothing more. Try being a Blackberry owner if you really wanna feel neglected.
Microsoft is dropping the ball while Nokia is holding us up
I can't even attach videos from my library with whatsapp which should be a feature that is a few years old. Now this. Its getting a bit embarrassing. I love the OS and all but sometimes waiting too much makes you tick.
By the time we get the "new" features or apps other platforms have moved onto sth else already.
Blackerry users are celebrating the 3rd largest OS lol
this is sad.......
Screw Them. Freaking Black berry? Are you serious?
What about skype for WP 7.8?
Man , are WP fans really only fans of the exclusives or fans of the design and the OS itself ? Microsoft is hard at work baking these apps into the phone, that takes time and software updates to the OS to implement. When its baked into your contacts or the messaging app, you gonna love it? I will! Besides the more ms gives apple love, the more likely will be to get apple apps coming our way. Patience is a virtue and waiting is worth it to me, nothings gonna get me to change because this OS is still the best! Period!
It took MS 3 years to announce its killer IP game (halo) was coming to WP in a decision that everyone saw as a no-brainer since day one. (and I seriously wouldn't be surprised if if they announced it will be coming to iOS and Android as well)
That's the kind of wait we had to deal with in every little thing since the birth of WP. I was hopeful things would start to pick up by now and a new dawn is ahead, alas it seems we're still in the middle of the night.
ustudio wrote:
Microsoft maybe you should pay your self 100 grand to come up with a skype app for windows phone
What...the...heck...
Talk about giving the wrong message.
Either Microsoft:
-made a big technical mistake (not being able to send a video after rebuilding the entire friggin OS)
-made another massive PR mistake (when a better Skype for WP would be incoming)
- doesn't care about their own platform which is even worse than those two combined.
I sadly fear the last one is true.
Lets hit Joe B on the twitter. This is ridiculous!
微软skype开发者就是大傻逼，一群傻逼
I let them have it on Twitter. Both MS and WindowsPhone. Every WP owner should feel embarrassed and angry. No matter if you use Skype or not
I like this OS and MS products, but it sure gets damn hard to defend them. To keep doing this time after time is just plain stupid, and a slap in the face to those of us who support them.
I'd say someone should be fired over this, but its clear MS is just fine with this. Do they even have a PR team? Do they have the internet? It happens everytime, its all over the internet how MS continues to treat its loyal customers like third class citizens. And what does this do for potential new adopters? Why would they want to go to WP when even MS seems to ignore the OS and updates other platforms first.
And friggin blackberry even?!?!?!? Are you kidding me?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? And Android after what Google does with Youtube?! MS has some serious issues. If I was up for a new phone, id seriously consider dumping WP if this is how MS is going to be
Microsoft is not a land, it's small islands and they have always been at war and hated each other. Now bringing in the new guys from Isla-de-Skype should make any difference?
I think Steve Ballmer have made a great job trying to accelerate all divisions in to unity. But is it enough, and all these years of doing everything there own way, will it ever stop?
All this is still no excuse, but it is a reason. And what it is are Microsoft shooting them self's in the foot ... again. Its just sad. And the WP crowd, were patient and we turn the other cheek, again, and again, and again .....
Every time I open skype, it tells me I have had 10 missed calls! Where's the integration? No toast notifications... Nothing! Well done MS! (Oh my rant)
This just goes to show AGAIN how Microsoft treats WP as a Red-Headed Step Child. No atta-boy, no pat on the head, nothing extra. They'll keep feeding it only because it's a moral issue, but nothing extra. No dessert, no trips to the park, nothing. Just barely survive little guy! If it passes away, then it was all a simple misunderstanding.
I personally cannot wait till iPhone 6 arrives with iOS7. Week after week, Microsoft talks me OUT of their phones.
And to those who think Microsoft is actually worried about WP not doing well in the market. Bill Gates was just named the Richest Person in the WORLD. I don't think he's too worried about this afterthought called Windows Phone. And, with no children of his own, he's only too willing to take care of all the OTHER children (iOS, Android, Blackberry, etc...).
That's a clue about how committed is Microsoft to Windows Phone...
What's next? "coming this fall, Halo 5 and Forza 5, exclusively for the PlayStation 4!!!!"
Can't even get Skype to work, won't call contacts keeps saying number is incorrect, but the number is right!!! useless program
I've being using windows it being winmo or WP since I stop using the sidekick but I've giving Microsoft till the fall to see if they can get their shit together. If not I'm out till they do because I really like the OS but the lack of support is driving me crazy!!!!!!
Ridiculous. Blackberry? Really?? C'mon MS, are you serious about your own friggin' mobile platform or aren't you? By all means update Skype on every platform you can, but Jeezus God make sure you update your own for your most loyal customers, too!
I strongly disagree with my buddy at work about the direction that WP is going but today am really upset with MS. I can't believe that they updated Skype on other platforms before its own. I am a big Nokia fan and that's the reason I own a WP. Nokia 808 sounds pretty good for my next phone until MS gets its sh*t together.
I think Microsoft knows better and they are probably working on a better solution for WP or better yet they are letting everyone else be the beta testers. But who knows... Maybe Skype, who still seems to work somewhat independent from Microsoft had this planned all along and not much MS can do. Who knows what the reasons are but I am sure there is a legitimate reason behind this.
Seriously Microsoft... well done.
Not very often can one see this kind of horrible marketing from any company. It's not so much about WP missing a Skype feature, but rather what kind of message it sends out to the smartphone world. Microsoft is surely todays's laughing stock for sure. What a way to win new users MS !!!!
This.
Exactly!
I refuse to believe that the head honchos over WP/MS are this incompetent, I'm expecting a surprise announcement on June 26th
MS Photosynth = iPhone 1st
MS Office = avail for iPhone
MS XBox Smart Glass = avail for iPhone
MS Skype = new features first on iPhone
For the best Microsoft experience...get an iPhone?? With all of the time, money and energy they spend trying to get 3rd party developers on board, you'd think they'd go down the hall and chat with the IN HOUSE developers.
Haha yeah. I'm cool with MS putting their software on other platforms-- that keeps them dominant. But sweet lord what a boneheaded move to skip THEIR OWN PLATFORM! They even updated for blackberry. Just pathetic.
lol Microsoft
I have a feeling the functionality will be baked in the next release of Windows Phone.
That's cool but not an excuse for not updating it in the meantime.
Then they have to announce it. They have a faithful customer base to respect and hopefully expand. This attitude is unjustifiable and their reply is borderline insolent...
i dont use Skype but this definitely sucks for its users, and it looks like a lot of you are just that. And i agree, if the functionality doesnt work because its Skype's fault MS is still to blame since they own the company.
It's things like this that really make me regret getting a Windows Phone. I love my device, and I do love the OS, but waiting for features and apps is getting pretty tiresome.
I see people saying 'be patient, it's coming' but why? Why should we have to keep being patient when apps come to other devices and we have to wait and see if it'll come to this OS? It's been the same for months/years for some people.
The fact that a Microsoft owned company (whether independent or not) releases an update to ALL platforms bar WP really just feels like a slap in the face.
I really am sorely tempted to jump ship. I'm going to see if anything is announced at the build conference, and weigh my options then.
I can't say I disagree. I'm pretty much all in on the MS ecosystem, but this kind of shit just makes me wonder why sometimes. Apple and android are A-game, but stuff like this from MS is strictly b-game, and you gotta wonder if its nice to be on a team that actually cares about winning.
BS! What is this nonsense! First iOS looking like WP, and no class lawsuit anywhere, second Skype looks to ignore it's MSter, and still no whips flying around anyhow...what kind of anarchy is this! Will go back to mailing VHS tapes @_@ hahah
When this sort of thing happens, it's usually an obvious indicator that the feature is planned for inclusion in the base OS. The obvious answer is that video messages will be a core part of the messaging app in the next win phone 8 OS build. I don't really care too much though. I do, however, like to use quick voice messages such as with talk box, whatsapp, etc. It's the modern voice mail. I suppose video will catch on.. but probably won't get used anywhere near as much. Having to worry about what you look like and what might be behind you is an extra headache i won't want to bother with most of the time.
BREAKING NEWS: Office 2014 is available now for iOS, Android, BB10, Bada, Symbian. No details as yet if it will be released for WP. The Office team spokesidiot said "You can view the new format if you have a Lumia 1010 which will be available at some point, but you just can't create edit save anything currently on WP".
The funny thing is that I won't be really shocked if it were to be announced :)
I actually tweeted Microsoft telling them how stupid they are...8billions for this piece of shit!
LMAO!!! Now, u are a funny guy :D
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LOL .. I love wpcentral :D
I am still a WP fan after all, but the guys in Redmond shouldn't take people like me for granted.
Typical
Every WP user should be upset. Skype user or not.
Many big time app devs refuse to make an app because "the market is not big enough for us". We've heard that many times and we frown whenever we hear/read that. MS is basically saying the same when they're not releasing the WP version of Skype along with their competitors'. What a slap in the face...
Like I and others have written, I don't think that's the reason. I'm pretty sure the reason is that the OS simply can not do this without a major overhaul.
Maybe you are right.
I understood and excused a not so convincing wp7. But seriously, how much more time do they need?
I should have been warned because windows mobile was a terrible experience for an average private user.
What, yet another rewrite of the OS?
Wp8 is Microsoft's final shot at mobile. The market moves on, and they don't get an unlimited amount of re-dos.
Not sure what you mean. Of course they will update the OS, just like Google updates android and Apple updates iOS.
Their final shot...??
Worst of all there are no announcements from MS...we the customers gather on such forums n blogs and keep on guessing as idiots..who reads all these comments n what impact do they have??
Well, there goes my WP love....
I'm a big Skype user. I was excited about the purchase....at first. Now we have a ghosa beta app and fewer features. Thanks for sticking it to all of the WP users, MS!
Why does MS make me realize time n again that I made a mistake by buying a Windows Phone..
Skype has been in beta since ages and the user experience on WP8 is undoubtedly pathetic...
If this is how MS wants to progress with WP then in few months I might be commenting here with an Android or an iOS device...WTF MS..
Why can't MS be like Sony and sue themselves.
I really want to hear that story :)
I don't understand doesn't MS own Skype? Why doesn't it come to WP first when there's new features?
Wechat already able to do that.....
Bullshit.
What is Microsoft doing..supporting everyone else with the latest version of Skype but their own phone operating..seems strange..makes me wonder if I did the right thing by buying a new phone running Windows 8...
First the xbox fuck up and now this. MS r u really trying to loose the rest of loyal Users. I swear I have never seen a company make so many huge mistakes as MS the last week. Get you act together or you Will loose me as a customer asap ☝
Ridiculous. Just ridiculous. I don't really have any use for this feature, but this doesn't make any sense even from a business perspective...
I guess somebody needs to get fired immediately.
If it does not work on Windows Phone, then do not release to any other platform. Pretty easy requirement to remember. If Windows Phone is holding you back for innovating, you need to fix this problem first. What is next, Microsoft Office only on MacOS?
WTF, not even MSFT respects itself
Sometimes I would like to see the age of the posters, side by side with their (nick) names! I see a lot of people panicking at the first statement they read at the media. There is always a reason (or more) for the decisions one company take. There are 2 or 3 that were already advanced here that are logical. Sometimes, I have doubts about Microsoft timings, but the most of times I understand them. So, as someone said, keep your calm and wait for the next days/weeks! MS is a big company, and these are not agile as start up or small/medium companies. WP OS is great, and things are getting better! (not English native)
dotcompt, age 42. Former XDA Developer and using Windows Phone since day one. I left XDA because I was tired defending Windows Phone and see the XDA Moderators and Admins just ignoring the platform I loved so much. I always said WP was a fresh breeze and an amazing OS due to the smoothness, simplicity and the integration focus it had.
Now the OS development is sluggish, fragmented (rememeber what MS said about Android fragmentation?) and Microsoft is pathetic with the lack of timing and stupid decisions from the ignorant Steve Balmer. There are so many things still missing to an OS that has already 3 years, ie, how stupid it is to turn on /off the WiFi.
With decisions like the Skype one, why do you think developers are keeping away from Windows Phone, if Microsoft itself doesnt think is worth it.
The all scenario is not worse because Nokia is doing a superb job with hardware and their amazing phones but unfortunately Microsoft can not keep the pace with software and will bring Nokia down too.
We all love Windoiws Phone but it is time to get real
Well said bro! Nokia giving it all their best, but MSFT drawing them back.
Wish Nokia would adopt the android platform n leave MSFT alone.
This business relationships ain't symbiotic, d Finns' are losing
Hear,hear!!
Windows Phone is likely handcuffing the always impressive Nokia hardware.
If this kind of stuff keeps up, Nokia and WP will go the route of Ahab and the White whale.
I completely agree with dotcompt (btw loved all your work over at XDA), windows phone lacks basic features (coming from a guy who got a WP back in the early days of it) I'm not saying go Android on it or anything, but there is alot of room for improvement. If you look on the developer side of things, its horrible! Many APIs are still missing or broken, it was excusable back when WP first launched but not now! That's also why I would always turn to the homebrew community, they would always have the solution! But now that the WP homebrew community is slowly dismembering and everyone is giving up. MS has prevented homebrewers on WP8 but a side effect of that is that they made WP so tight the normal devs are having trouble. I can't help but wonder was pushing out home brews really a main focus of WP8, instead of fixing APIs adding functionality (Notification Center?). Microsoft had truly went form "developers, developers, developers" to "CEOs, CEOs, CEOs,"....
Are you willing to list these "basic features" that are missing?
I'm willing to bet you'll say something like a notification center, but please by all means tell us what's missing.
What's wrong with listing notification centre? You and I might not find it a useful feature, but the fact that many people expressed it as a desired feature that competitors have should be a compelling reason.
Would be nice to have smart dial, different sound profiles, improved wifi settings, frequent settings drop down menu or tiles (for wifi, bluetooth, airplane mode, etc.) improved calendar, no lag on music player ability to organize the applications list by preference or frequency.
I am going to be as "basic" as I can:
. Notification Centre - why not ? and with support for 3rd party apps.
. Control Centre - How stupid it is to turn On/Off a simple thing like Wi-Fi with the current WP OS, and don´t give me a live tile that opens the anoying settings page, I want to swipe and click.
. VPN Support - this is a big deal for some Business people. And you cannot say WP is Enterprise without VPN.
. Full System Backup - a must.
. Universal Search - another must.
. Microsoft Voice (tellme) is a joke compared with Siri and Google Now and it needs to be updated too.
. Skype full integrated in OS or at least the last fuckxxx version that was available to all the other platforms except Windows Phone, Pathetic.
. Volume profiles - how hard it is to code it
. More Bluetooth features
. Folders - yes I like it, and a lot of pleople like it too if you check those polls that MS doesn´t care to read.
. FM Radio - We dont have to listen the Xbox Music always.
. Calendar Improvements - Does MS knows what is a week view?
. More resolutions - cannot understand why we still do not have 1080p support.
Is this hard to get? Really?
Microsoft needs to put a little bit more effort on Windows Phone and stop developing their apps to other platforms as a priority. Android gets better on every new OS released and Apple is trying that too.
Nokia is doing a superb job with devices and software but Microsoft is failing baddly.
I just hope Blue proves that I am wrong which is unlikely.
Thanks ;-)
Always good to calm down.
But many big names in business-history just disappeared because they were too slow or didn't understand a changing world. Even for Microsoft there is no guarantee to survive. And I'm pretty sure they know that in Redmond because some actions in the past appeared like panic reactions.
Btw. I still love my Lumia and still love the beauty of windows phone. But you can die in beauty.
This post needs to be read, and re-read over and over by people here. I wish I could upvote this mo-fo.
You wanna know who else is a big company: Nokia, Samsung and Apple. Now go check how swiftly they are acting...
• WP is great? Absolutely and I wouldn't be here if it wasn't.
• Things are getting better? Of course, each iteration is a step in the right direction.
The problem is the communication strategy is so lousy and it is taking ages to implement each tiny bit into this wonderful platform, that when it actually starts becoming mature it could be too late for it to succeed. And THAT's what all the fuss is about...
this feature is ZZZZzzzzzzzzZZZ anyway... and honestly i would have liked more if Skype team fixed the Skype experiences instead of adding another useless (for most people) feature that wont do any better.
I know some people like to complain, but it was better if they fixed skype in alot of ways, and people like to cry like little babies like if MS or Skype team was kidnapping their kids or killing their family. pathetic human beings, if you dont like skype you can always find and alternative... or better yet, make your own messaging software, maybe you will see its not easy to do it.
probably the code was there before Microsoft adquired Skype and they just put it and refined it anyway. and they focused in bring it to windows 8 because windows 8 is bigger than windows phone, like it or not.
of course this doesnt mean I care about this feature, and it changes how some bugs in skype are really annoying. so it would have been better if Skype fixed the clients instead of adding a new worthless feature.
you know like fixing Sign in with a Microsoft account, find a solution to have multiple skype accounts in one Win8 machine that is logged with a microsoft account. of the link and unlink of skype with a microsoft account. because when you make a skype microsoft account. that would have been better if they fixed that crap. instead of this video messaging crappy feature, pathethic humans are complaining about like if they are going to use it every minute of their lives.
You apparently completely missed the point.
It's not about Skype itself or the f#@king feature no matter how useful/useless it is. It's about Microsoft showing very little commitment to its own platform and showing even less respect to its users...
If you (like many of us) have stuck with WP since its debut, you would realize how many times users have been let down before by Microsoft's strategy for WP and maybe then you would start to understand why people are right 'to cry like little babies'.
What a joke.
The only reason why I pre-ordered a Xbox One today was because I wanted to use the whole Windows eco-system.
But it seens to be a pretty stupid idea. Silly me.
*Microsoft * doesn't seem to be interested in the Microsoft ecosystem, so why should anybody else be?
Coming a trail position (3rd place) Microsoft seems to not get it. With less than 10% of the market MS is not doing a good pushing the envelope. In the position that wp8 is in, ms should be giving us as many features as they can. They are not even keeping up with the jones' like android and ios. MS should be going above and beyond what others are doing. We should NOT be behind on specs, or features ant more. No more excuses at this point. This goes for other product too, like surface. If MS releases another surface without HD OR better they might as well fold up and go home. If kindle can be HD, no reason for a powerhouse like ms not to be as well. Microsoft is in the position that its in because it came late to the party and instead of running to catch up and pass others they're jogging. Just ranting...love my 920
I sure am glad at least we have Microsoft Office exclusive to Windows Phone......................wait....what? WTF?
Ha ha ha IOS pays for it but we don't, and we have better office layout compare to theirs. Did you see office for iPhone?
7.x version still won't let me sign in with either my MS account or secondary one that I made to test it.
Skype needs money .
as Skype users are mostly IOS and android users they target them more intensively, BB10 has a similar os to android thus easier porting.
Wp8 is full of bugs specially on the communications/notifications front.
And I'm sure Skype is dreading the approval procedures at the WP store
Still love my Lumia
Then they should f@#king explain themselves to WP owners instead of bold and rude statements!!
"We will inform you if we add send capability at a later date"
And THIS is what they give us? THIS??
Though some of your points are valid, Skype is an team at MS, I'm sure they get priority during submissions. Also they have the privilege to use APIs that us normal devs can't (Notifications, etc..) I see no reasonable excuse NOT to update an app on your own platform, especially if you have special privileges given making it easier!
Microsoft Really?
As much as I like WP and want it to succeed... I have to admit that in it's current state, it's an awful mess.
These are the moments when I doubt Microsoft is taking the mobile market seriously. They need to step it up. You are the worlds biggest software company. Act like it.
Where's that lawyer dude?.......RANT RANT RANT
Why exactly did they buy Skype if not to promote their own products?
Microsoft sometimes makes it pretty hard to defend and support windows phone. They still need to build a loyal customer base - better communication and some extras for windows phone fans like me would help.
It doesn't even integrate into the messaging hub, why would you expect something new like this to work?
No, but it integrates into the people hub. Really only a direct link to the app, but still.
This is Lumia 925/928 prototypes all over again. Everybody unloads their buckets of shit and hate on Nokia (in this case, Microsoft) and in the end everybody goes lovelydovely about the outcoming result. So calm down, nobody's going to die because of a... 3 minute video that can send via Skype.
I honestly can't imagine people really being upset about the feature itself. It's just people feeling left out. Thats Microsoft's fault for being vague, I guess... But seriously, people are overreacting. Yes they gave "priority" to other platforms with bigger market share, which is smart (not sure about BB?). You need money from somewhere to pump it into R&D, right? See it at an investment. Okay, still can't fix the whole "we're being left out" feeling, but it does make sense. Just like iPhone using Bing lately!
On another note, perhaps they completely integrated Skype into the 8.1 OS? Wish they could confirm it instead of being vague and receiving a lot of (probably unneeded) hate. But I agree, it does make them look a little unsure about their own product this way
"Yes they gave "priority" to other platforms with bigger market share, which is smart (not sure about BB?). "
I know that for me that is one of the really, really irritating things here. I can maybe see why Android and iOS are supported - they're big moneymakers. But BB10? Really, f*** 'em. I don't care how little effort it required, it just shouldn't happen.
And I'm convinced that this comes down to a technical issue with WP8 not being able to do this. That, however, just makes it worse...
I read someone's comment that BB10 has similar OS like Android and it's easier porting.
I know. Which is why I wrote "I don't care how little effort it required, it just shouldn't happen." They should not give this feature to their closest, minor competitor. Period.
MS needs to communicate with their followers why they took this path not giving WP8 users the same thing they gave the IOS and Adroid to avoid angering people/us. MS is bad communicator!
Ok this right here is the thing... COMMUNICATION. That is the area that MS absolutely sucks at, and all the crying in regard to this is legit IMO.
If they would just step up and TELL PEOPLE what is going on, why it is going on, and when it is going to happen they could effectively eliminate a lot of the FUD that's being spread all over, as well as the vast majority of the negativity that put up on pages like this one. Then they would only be held to their word. But stuff like this is cold to their users. Yes in the grand scheme of things this is pretty minor, but don't just leave it to Skype to answer this. MS needs to tell folks what is going on.
No company does that, but then again no other company has that cloud of doubt hanging over them that so many (wrongfully) put over MS.
Of course it can put a lot of the "writers" who spend their days speculating, and creating rumors about MS the hell out of business but that's very much needed at this point.
From this forums i am starting to realize that even WP fans like me are getting sick of the lack of attention to the OS and the long waited updates, someone here says that updates will be available this summer or early next year. If MS still like this early next year a lot of us will be at other OS
Exactly! I'm holding off upgrading my Lumia 900 for this very reason, not convinced its the way to go because of stupidity like this from MS!
Shit like this that makes me losing faith in MS.
//build is really the make or break for me as an MS fan.
And this is exactly why I'm switching..to android as soon as I get the money. Too many disappointments in wp8 -_- they really need to sort thier priorities, but my question is why are they burying thier own grave ..this is just another thing for ios and android to pick on ..so dissatisfied right now
This is the end for me. That Microsoft can't even be bothered to address this lack of support for what is essentially their main app on their own platform with even a tiny little comment says all that I need to hear, loudly. Windows Phone has no future, and the only reason it is even a goiong concern at all comes down to Nokia's hard work. That's it, and that's all. I actually feel badly for Nokia, they seem to have been as duped as I have been, but it's a lot easier for me to just throw this thing up on Craigslist and migrate to another platform that is vibrant, growing, and supported.
This community is about the only other good thing to come out of all of this, and though this is the first time that I have taken the time to post here, I just wanted to thank all of you for your help, contributions and general coolness. Take care everyone.
I don't give a ... about Microsoft.
But what really makes me angry is all the good work being done by Nokia which risked its own future with switching to windows phone.
I really don't understand what is wrong with my MS. They love their business customers but still neglect the private market. Something what Apple didn't and see where they are now.
They are a bunch of bloody idiots. Can't get anything right
We can't even get voicemail so this doesn't surprise me.
voicemail is from your carrier. I called TMobile to activate my voicemail, FYI.
Microsoft lost their way when their focus shifted from "Developers! Developers! Developers!" to "Microsoft! Microsoft! Microsoft!" Clearly the people at the top have forgotten who was really responsible for their success. Don't worry though, they'll pay the price. All in good time.
I think you, sir, may well have a point.
Attention, ladies and gentlemen! Down here...hello, is this thing on? Greetings. First, I want to apologize for coming across somewhat rude or anything resembling as such...but, seriously what am I missing? Is everyone seriously ONLY focusing on what isn't happening? I hope everyone knows that "video messaging" is already available in Messenger and it would just be redundant in the Skype app for Windows Phone. The drawback is of course the contacts between services, but if you're using Skype with your Microsoft Account, its the same thing...its only if you're still using Skype exclusively with the original Skype account, then its less a matter of available features than Microsoft needing to clean up the accounts and merging them to erase this problem. Its all in the perspective..isn't it better just to send vid messages from messenger anyway? In conclusion, maybe I'm wrong and I'm sure you'll all let me know it. =[
I don't really use video messaging but MS needs to communicate with their followers to avoid this Chaos, and with this some already jumping ship. I think it is best for MS to just give the OS to Nokia, since Nokia is the only one that really work hard to make Windows Phone alive.
Ridiculous!! Sometimes I question their commitment. Makes no sense and even if it did from some weird perspective or angle, from all the others its a message that this mobile OS is insignificant next to the others. Shoot your self in the foot, again, and again why not. Begs the question how many feet do you think you have??? I say this not caring about this feature too..
Who the fuk is responsible for this decision? They are shooting themselves in the foot with this approach. Why should others develop for their platform if their own people doesnt even do it?
Dear Microsoft,
Please remind the Skype team who signs their paychecks.
Sincerely,
Customers and Shareholders
i wonder if maybe microsoft is planning on true, full skype integration with Windows Phone 8.1, which would explain lack of updates and features. I mean, messenger is discontinued, and replaced by skype, yet messages still appear in the Messaging hub (not to mention, you cant contact skype messaging contacts via the hub, but you can microsoft account contacts.). And the background tasks seem a bit iffy at times (i recieve duplicate toasts for message, each 15 to 30 minutes appart, and have missed a call before.) Some big integration with Windows Phone would be awesome, allowing one to use skype straight from the OS, and could somewhat explain lack of updates.
Blackberry first?!?! WTF?
All the games a bought on WP7 went bye bye when WP8 hit,Office and now Skype,this is getting old quick.
Its a shame, how does Microsoft expect people to support them when they barely support themselves? Well, its not all bad I guess, they are investing more money in app development for wp, lets see where that goes..
This is pathetic... I dont understand them... I have a lumia 710 and I never used skype because doesnt support sign in with MS account (still...) . We dont have wp8 all of us... At least give as the chance to sign in... For this reason i use viber 1year now.
Log into skype online then log into live it will link the accounts
Wow... really...???
This type of stuff is worse for WP than this skype mess. You're spreading crap that isn't even true...
This makes no damn sense, its shit like the that just turn potential WP customers off and make current ones loose faith.
I still don't understand why MS has gone to such extremes to lock down most third party access to media files. When not even Apple locks down their OS that much, you know something is not right.
Thinking exactly the same thing. Their desktop os is the most vulnerable one out there and their mobile OS just overdid the security measures. And also, not most apps... "none" of the apps can access video files :(. Not even MS apps
A typical MS announcement. When they will take WP seriously?
If I recall correctly, Whatsapp can't send videos either, due to how the OS works. So maybe there's literally nothing that Skype could do to make this happen, unless MS makes an OS revision.
That just makes me wish that this feature had been held back until WP8 had that capability also, but of course Skype can't do that, they need to invent and stay relevant.
Just a frustrating situation all around, it seems.
You can't blame Skype for this mess. Its MS. It overdid the security precautions on media storage system on WP8 and so no app can send any video files from WP os. (remember WhatsApp can't send any video audio files either). I hope MS working on it and GDR2 removes this issue within the OS. And any app can use media storage system afterwards and Skype will probably update afterwards. They are not very dumb to admit that they overdid their first-thinking on WP8 creation and Skype update unavailability is because of this. That's why they are "mum" on this issue.
What the actual fuck
No.. No...
Golf clap
Wtf?!!!!!!!
WHAT THE F*CK, MICROSOFT... WHAT... THE... F*CK?
Well, Skype are doing their best to stay relevant. They can not afford waiting for wp.
WP is delayed for a reason since w8 got the update. The question is what is the reason? They either plan on more merging of wp8 and w8 with blue so there is no point in wasting resources OR wp8 lacks the appropriate apis ....
I am leaning towards the latter (based on the "We will inform you if we add send capability at a later date" comment)
So, the heads of wp8 apis are to be blamed probably because I have hard time to believe that the hardware or the OS is not capable of recording a video ... !
Regardless of what's preventing it from being implemented, there is simply no excuse to not explain why their own platform has been omitted!
If it is something to do with better integration in WP8.1, then they HAVE to point it (as subtly as they need). And if it is some kind of limitation, then at least explain the situation and make a promise to fix it and make it better later. I mean there are people giving their money and committed to their product for f@#k's sake!!
No matter how one sees it, their attitude is simply inexcusable.
I really feel sorry for Nokia. They have been griding out the goods only to be held back by the OS. Now they are saying Blue won't be out until 2014 for WP? I mean WTF! I love my 920 and I've been on board since day one, but it's getting to the point where It's embarrasing to be a fan. My love for Nokia hardware is the only thing keeping me from bolting.
Microsoft, this is stupid. Put your platform first. You are a terribly fragmented company. Get your act together.
maybe ms reveals in the 8.1 update that skype in fact wil be realy integrated in 8.1 update and then its kinda logical that it is delayed om wp.
Lol you must be new here. We've all been wishing like that for years. The more times we see this the more I expect wp9 to be another restart, this time with an upgrade option. Too much in fighting at Ms to make good strategic decisions, too many internal empires
I think we won't be seeing such integration before WP9. Some consider it being skeptical, I personally consider it being realistic.
What's wrong with you people. If you want that functionality there's plenty of other mobile platforms you can use, stop the wining!!! Just joking, wtf......
Well, I think Microsoft has just noticed that Windows Phone is a complete fail and is terrible.
No, it's a beautiful os. But maybe they should just let Nokia do all the work.
Nokia makes apps and hardware. MAtter of fact they failed so bad at keeping their OS alive, they ended up adopting WP. Do you really tell yourself that MS isn't doing anything at all with THEIR OS?
C'mon man....
You are absolutely right about Nokia failing to keep their OS alive. Most of us are gutted because WP is such a great and fresh platform with a huge potential and we feel Microsoft is taking a bit too long to evolve it. Shame really when you see Nokia doing everything possible to bring features to the OS that MS should have brought instead. That's not to say Nokia is doing it out of courtesy, they have basically no margin of error and MUST act swiftly if they are to recover. To be honest, I feel for people who love WP but own a non Nokia device (Sammy and Htc), they probably feel most betrayed by Microsoft.
Sorry for the long post...
Not to discount Nokia in any way, but I don't see them doing much more than apps and hardware. And that's pretty much what they are expected to be doing.
Microsoft, you surely know how to mess things up. If I were Balmer I would have heads rolling out by the numbers
Microsoft might as well begin funeral planing for WP if they keep doing this crap.
I've already lost one great product and service (Zune) because of Microsoft's poor choices, why do they keep doing this.
They need to learn an give us Microsoft made apps before iOS and Droid and give us the slightly better app.
Key Selling Point of WP7 was Xbox Live then they released a superb app on other platforms.
They have done Zero with Xbox live games. Zilch!
I think Microsoft themselves hate Windows Phone. Balmer uses iphone after all....Whisky Tango Foxtrot.
It seems thta even Microsoft thinks that Windows Phone development is not worth it and they chose to follow the money path, Android and iOS. My Android and iOS friends are pretty happy today, happy enough to get a good laugh one me.
Microsoft sucks big time and if it wasnt Nokia it would suck even more. Steve Ballmer go home we need Bill Gates now.
I agree with the Balmer needs to shift, he was a great bit of PR fun sometimes but he really is an idiot if he is allowing his competition to have the upper hand because his company is giving them the upper hand
W. T. F. ?!?!?
Seriously MSFT, does this not seem like an issue to you?
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WinPhémon: Skype Blue :)
THROW A FREAKIN ROCK.
This is one of the few things that happens regarding WP that really pisses me off. No I'm not leaving, and NO the sky is NOT falling. But barring whatever reason/excuses they have for this not coming to WP it's stuff like this is pretty inexcusable at this point.
Thanks for nothing Skype (Becaue for me the app it's self is STILL buggy)
The ONLY way they can make up for this Skype trash is to make it part of the OS like they originally said.
It would be nice if all of you calm the hell down and not turn this into the next big thing to cry about... but honestly, it's pretty hard to not get at least a little bent outta shape over it. Yet and still this is a Skype issue, not MS. I know some of you pledge odd allegiances to certain companies and their apps, and in doing so place all blame on MS, but I don't think it's them. Maybe Daniel can clear that part up.
Except that Skype IS Microsoft!
Microsoft apparently bought Skype for $8.5 billion so that Skype could get better on iOS, Android & Blackberry but not on Windows.
even Albert Einstein would be scratching his ass...............
right in the kisser...
Microsoft is a joke, they are just not serious about Windows Phone, seems its just a pet project for them
If it wasn't for Nokia I wouldn't be using wp8, and it's a shame Nokia is doing more for the OS than MS is.
i agree.. likewise.. MS needs a BITCH SLAP.
And you ask why devs are not making apps for WP8. If MS doesn't care for their own, they don't have to either.
It's pretty clear, they are waiting for the 100,000 $ bonus to be offered from MS and booom, it's gonna be there
LOL.
So that'll be on top of the $8.5b they paid? Actually may be more accurate than you would think.....:)
If the same company doesn't support their own phone, makes you wonder why should I? I think the only reason I stick around is the awesome hardware Nokia makes, especially the camera, but man, the future is not looking good in regards to my next phone. Sigh
It makes sense. Windows phone doesn't have the market share of android or ios (as much as I hate to say it). They have to cover the places with the largest community. Its just business. Just like when on windows website when a Iphone was placed in front of android and windows phone was the last phone behind the two. More people have Iphones and Androids so of course they get it first just like our apps. I wish that wasn't the case...
That argument makes sense for 3rd party devs, not the actual platform maker. After all how do they expect to increase their marketshare when they themselves wont make it better? They make billions in profit every year, its hard to imagine they cant eat the cost of developing for thier own mobile platform. And these features are free so there is no real revenue that MS is generating so even less of an incentive to priotize those platforms over their own.
Well I guess Microsoft just does what it wants.
The way to build marketshare is to offer something desirable that the others don't... not make sure that everyone else has something that you don't.
Apple once had less than a 0.5% market share and yet it didn't share any apps to Nokia and its Symbian platform with Nokia being 2 times larger company and selling 26 million smartphones quarterly.
I woulnd't say naturally MS had to share the app, but it does make sense. What we are complaining here is that WP is not even offering its own software on its own platform, running on a NT kernel like its most important product, Windows.
How can you grow as a platform if not for the very least offering the same experience as on other platforms? If anything you should be the very least offering the better experience. just like Apple and Google have done at the start on their own services and are still doing.
No it doesn't. It also comes in blackberry....BLACKBERRY AND NOT WP!! *super saiyan furious mode on*
WP8 times up :~|
so skyps is ms and wp is ms but even then skype gets the update on any system exept wp ????
i think ms has to organise stuff a little better . they ruinign their own products
I still think a number of core things in WP aren't done due to having to spend most their time last year on NT shared core based work. This year is catching up with underlying code and systems to add more APIs and foundation code to support things that just aren't possible yet. We'll see if Blue is where that starts to really show. I hope so, it doesn't make a lot of sense otherwise.
da fuck just happened here? lol... any platform BUT WP!?!?... daz fucked up son.
Woah.. I have no idea what's going on with Skype for WP but really? We have no file transfer either which is bad enough.. But everyone else getting the new features before us, that's just messed up.
Lol, I try to defend and show how WP is good on other forums, in this case not really much I can say except wtf MS!!
Msft u suck...
Love Windows Phone, but this is ridiculous. I can't believe that Tony Bates, the guy in charge of Skype, is being touted as the successor to Ballmer. He should be shown the door.
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