There’s a Nokia Lumia 1020 in our Forums right now, see it go against the Lumia 920
Let’s get Rebecca Black (opens in new tab) up in here and get the weekend started, it is Friday after all. What better way to kick off the weekend then by going to the Windows Phone Central Forums where there’s somewhat of an impromptu AMA (Ask me anything) and Nokia Lumia 1020 vs. 920 thread going on.
It just so happens that when of your fellow Windows Phone Central Member unternull has a Lumia 1020 and is answering questions about the device right now. He (or she) is also doing comparison shots from the cameras on both the Lumia 920 and 1020. Below is what a sample of the fun that is taking place right now in there.
Below we took a pair of two photos for a side by side look and zoomed in on the Mario action figure so you can do some quick close up comparisons. On the left is the Lumia 920 Mario and the right has the Lumia 1020 Mario. The Lumia 1020 does appear to produce some more grain compared to the Lumia 920. But that’s understandable seeing as how the pixels are much smaller compared to the Lumia 920.
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Until then you can't really tell what's a result of the 41MP and what's a result of the newest version of the camera software.
And, even with a software boost, I don't think a 920, 8.7 megapixel camera can keep pace with a 41-megapixel shooter.
Nokia needs a "hero" device, and, as such, they won't be holding back any resources when trying to make the 1020 have as amazing of a camera as possible.
I can understand that 920 users will feel some envy if/when their camera gets blown out of the dust, but Nokia isn't going to hold back just to make early adopters feel better (exactly what happened to anyone who picked up a Lumia 900, like me).
And I don't think there's envy in this. The L1020 is a nich phone that the majority will ignore. Those who REALLY care about the amount of MP in a camera will switch from the 920 to or buy a 1020. The others - the majority - won't go waste their money on it (at best they wait a couple of months more for the 1030).
I personally won't pick the 1020 as I don't care that much about the camera (and I truly hate the design of the 1020 with that tumour in the back). I'll wait for Amber to correct the daylight softness in the photos and that's it.
However, the 1020 pic already shows better detail, colours and better depth of field.
I don't understand why you think that's understandable - sure it's pixels are smaller, but isn't it supposed to use data from 7 of those smaller pixels to make each 5 MP picture or something, which supposedly eliminates those effect? I mean, isn't that almost its raison detre?
Hopefully a software update will correct this, because, as another said, this could be a result of over-processing. Nonetheless, in its immediate form, it's rather dissapointing.
Lets start with what we are seeing. Grain vs noise. As a visual effects artist and photographer, I look at grain all day. Grain is good. It helps make your images blend together. It adds a level of sophistication to what we have ever known to be in a smartphone camera. The 1020 is a camera with a phone. It gives you results that will outshine any phone out there. So think of 'grain structure' and the glue that holds your image together. Im sure with different lighting conditions we will get great grain from changing the speed of your ISO. Just look at the close up of the 920 and you get no structure to the image. You can see the blocky edges on the image, that is noise. Noise equals crap- period. So a way to reduce the amount of noise in an image is to use grain. Because noise in compressed images will have a low frequency, meaning it will have large bulky shapes, you add the grain to blend the colors together and help break up that noise. Again, grain is good for you, like fiber.
Also I can see the chromatic aberration on the edges of Marios inner eye edge and on his moustache because of the high contrast. Thats where the RGB channels separate because the lens cant focus properly and you get what looks like a blurry colorful edge.
Next, we have oversampling. Think of oversampling as the processing of the larger image to make a smaller image without loosing visible detail. It keeps the image looking sharp and keeps the pixels on an edge looking clean, so you dont get jaggy edges, because the oversampling uses anti-aliasing, which is a fancy way of saying it smooths pixels together and blends them together when shrinking the pixel.
Lastly is the 'blurry' background. Because the 1020 has a giant area to work with, you will be able to focus on smaller objects. Im assuming that these mario images were small and images were taken up close. So the closer you are to your intended subject to focus on, the more your background is gunna be out of focus, ie- depth of field. Again, this just makes the camera that much better in this phone. It makes it a camera first and a phone second. I cant wait to get my hands on this things! Goodbye 920!
Im sorry for the long post, I hope it helps clear the air about what you are seeing!
Good old times..
But, I assume this phone is aimed at users that didn't get a 920/925/928 yet and is a slight upgraded alternative.
That is good but I'm just not sure the photos does the hump and price justice. You don't even get integrated Qi.
These are compressed jpeg images for the web, hardly the "raw" shots from the phone(s). We didn't get a 38mpx shot from the 1020 either, how can anyone be sure it's the real thing?