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Verizon Lumia 735 not scheduled until early 2015

Verizon has yet to announce the Nokia Lumia 735 as coming to their portfolio, and there may be a good reason for that: it is not due until 2015. Multiple sources have confirmed with Windows Phone Central that the Verizon branded Lumia 735 with LTE, which is in development, is currently not scheduled to come out this calendar year.

Early reports suggest there may be some stability issues with Verizon's dual CDMA/LTE network although it is just as likely that Verizon only wants to schedule it then for their own internal reasons.

This late release for the Lumia 735 is reminiscent of the Lumia Icon, which was supposed to launch in November of 2013, but did not hit shelves until three months later in February 2014. Windows Phone Central had a working Verizon Lumia Icon prototype in possession as early as November of last year.

The Nokia Lumia 735 is already hitting shelves worldwide. Last week, we did an unboxing and first impressions article with the svelte phone and came away impressed. In using the phone as our main Lumia for the last week, the phone has an outstanding design and is just a joy to use. Priced appropriately, and the Lumia 735 could be a hit in the US.

Considering Verizon is the only US carrier planning to get the Lumia 735, this late release date is very troubling for Microsoft, who needs their phones out on the market. Missing the busy holiday shopping season indeed hurts Windows Phone adoption in the US.

Verizon recently retired the Lumia Icon, likely due to poor sales. They currently sell the HTC One for Windows and Samsung ATIV SE, although advertising and promotion for either has been minimal so far. Additionally, Verizon still has not shipped out any Windows Phone 8.1 updates with Lumia Cyan, leaving customers understandably frustrated. Verizon is turning out to be not such a great partner for Microsoft, leaving AT&T as the bulwark in the US.

Release-dates can of course shift and we hope the Lumia 735 for Verizon is officially announced soon with a timely 2014 release instead of next year. Stay tuned.

Daniel Rubino is the Executive Editor of Windows Central, head reviewer, podcast co-host, and analyst. He has been covering Microsoft here since 2007, back when this site was called WMExperts (and later Windows Phone Central). His interests include Windows, Microsoft Surface, laptops, next-gen computing, and arguing with people on the internet.

271 Comments
  • I really hope this changes. The Lumia 735 is a fantastic phone and it kills me to think people in the US cannot get until early 2015.
  • I really want this phone, but I need a new device soon. Do you think it'll be worth it to just get a 5 or 630 series to tide me over if I'm already used to the 521?
  • The 635 is better of the two...
  • Yes, the 635 is much better than the 5 series.
  • 635 Is the best of these phones (i use)...
  • The 635 is nice I have several of them.
  • If your 521 is still going strong just wait for the 735.
  • 635
  • Same here. I hope it isn't true
  • y u guys have such carriers which are always a roadblock. here in India carrier involvement isn't there related to phone updates
  • 3 opinions viscerally matter when it comes to Verizon... InDistinguishable, MikeSo, & awilliams
  • People in the US need to wake up and realize that verizon isn't the great company it once was. I left them a few years ago, now I get better service and I pay way less.
  • This is downright unacceptable 
  • Will this be enough to show Microsoft that Verizon is not their friend?  Stop with the verizon exclusive stuff already.  
  • Nope, they have a lot of money so they have more pull in the US.
  • The real question is when Verizon knows they won't even try to sell the phone, why do they waste time and money to even get these phones? It makes no sense. It's like these people who buy exercise equipment and never use it.
  • I actually asked Verizon that but unfortunately I can't remember the full response. I thought "Verizon-only" phones meant Verizon was involved in the making of the device, lol, and I must've annoyed the hell out of that guy. He made it very clear that Verizon has no interest in WP, including the exclusives they carry. According to him, Verizon knows nothing about their future devices and don't care either way. They get whatever is shipped to them. And that's all I can recall at this time :/
  • Fuck Verizon!!! I have the Icon and have lost complete faith with their ability to sell anything Microsoft. I have been to every carrier as a technology rep for a fitness company and always ask about Windows phones while I am there to just find out what the reps know. Well let me tell you every carrier, and i mean every carrier said they push iPhone first and android second and where told to not push anything Windows!!!...The sales associate stated that this came from management higher up in the company!!! I asked the rep have they actually used or even know the features that windows phone offers and they all reply "not really"...So i show them my ICON and some of the cool interface and functions and the response is "I didn't know windows phone had that, or did this, or had that app!"...So fuck the carriers! I will buy my next windows phone unlocked!!! US phone carriers are the reason why Windows phone cant get more market share! PERIOD
  • Yes yes yes this is what we need more of!! Great comment btw ^^ +928
  • +928 Moving on from Verizon and possibly WP if MS can't take charge of its updates.
  • Odd... I asked for the Lumia 635 at my att, and he didn't know... Then he told me as I was looking around. Not the best, but he knew.
  • +928 so done with Verizon. 
  • I love my icon too. But not Verizon. I can't believe they retired the phone..
  • I think it's clear if you want Windows go AT&T / Cricket.
  • Face it. Verizon is holding out on its customers because it can.
  • I think Microsoft needs to take a page from Google. Their next high-end phone needs to be pushed through direct channels. In other words online store or Microsoft stores. They area done with Nokia branding so this should be easy. They sell the phone unlocked with all the antenna just like the new Nexus 6 or Moto X . And they still can put it to carriers to sell it however they want ...
  •   This is exactly what Microsoft needs to do. Not just their high-end phones but all of them.That way, people can learned trained associates what the phone can do and not be steered towards other devices by people who don't know the product and have no interest in learning about it. Just think about how many sales Microsoft has lost because someone went into a carrier store looking for a WP device and walked out with an Android or an iphone because the sales rep. bad-mouthed the product.
  • Yep. Last year I sent my brother-in-law into Metro PCS to upgrade his phone to the Lumia 521 and he came out with a different phone saying the Store rep pushed him away from the phone.
  • Verizon does nothing good for WP. What an awful company.
  • At some point you guys are gonna have to do the math, and use some deductive reasoning...
    .............
    Bottom line, root cause... Blame MS! Because, in the end it all comes back to MS, and how they have handled WP the past 4 years... I don't care what people say, and are either afraid to admit, or can't understand,, but WP is MS's project, and if it fails at anything it's MS's responsibility to fix that.. Who else's responsible is it? Is it Verizon's? The media's? Who has the power to do something about it? The fact is that nobody else is going to do anything to "fix" WP, so why waste our time pointing fingers everywhere?...... The only logical thing to do is point the finger at MS, because everything else is totally unproductive...
  • Pathetic... It'll be too late.
  • Exactly. Verizon is terrible. They say the network is do great that's why so many people use them. I think it's not a big deal because most people live in a major city and all providers are good in the cities.
  • I was just in a Verizon store last week and this lady was interested in buying the HTC M8 with Windows of course. Do you know the rep that was helping her flat out told her "you don't want that phone, I wouldn't recommend it". It took everything inside of me not to go off on him. I just stood on the outside and listened to them. The lady ended up leaving empty handed. I wanted to run after her to tell her that she was making a great choice, but her husband and daughter was with her. I didn't want to seem like a weirdo. 
  • I witnessed the same thing at an AT&T store and it absolutely drove me mad.  A guy was looking at a Lumia 1520 and the AT&T rep said "Windows Phone is stupid, I'd get an iPhone".  No representative should give such a rude personal opinion of a product that they sell!  I wanted to pull out my Lumia 1520 and shove it in his face.  If I wasn't grandfathered unlimited, I would leave ATT the first chance I get.
  • Yes, that ATT grandfather unlimited data plan...has me wrapped up, tied up, and tangled up. Just can't leave them...and I've tried.
  • My boss has an Icon and brought his old iPhone 4 to Verizon to get it activated for his wife's line. The Verizon guy thought he was replacing his Icon with the iPhone and told him it would be a nice upgrade. There is a VERY large issue with the carriers unfairly pushing certain products and bad mouthing others... I don't know if it's better commissions or what, but until the problem can be fixed I don't think Windows Phone is going to get anywhere.
  • He just needs to come to my store.  I have the 928 and love it.  I give all my customers a fair recommendation on what phone they should get depending on their needs.  I do not like recommending iPhones at all but sometimes but if the new phone is for parents who does not want to learn and their kids have iPhones, it is usually easiest to have the kids teach them.  That is, of course, the last thing I try. I have sold my fair share or Icons and HTC Ones (Windows).  I am the only person at my store who knows anything about Windows Phones so they usually send those customers to me.
  • It all has to do with large corporations, contracts, and favoritism. Like politics in the world of phones. Verizon is teamed up with Google and their priority is to sell Android phones. That's it. They don't want a variety of customers. You'd think they'd carry WP to get more customers but they told me they have no interest in WP users. Phone carriers are ridiculous. Such idiotic politics.
  • I agree
  • The sad thing is, this issnt only happening in the USA, but in Europe to. I live in the Netherlands and no major carrier is pushing Windows Phone. It's like the neglected child of the smartphone world. I'm currently on Android, after years of iPhone, but my next phone wil be a Windows Phone. I've educated my self and know what I want. Windows Phone is an amazing operating system, and I want it badly, so badly that I'm saving up to buy a high end (or maybe the 735, haven't made my mind up entirely) Windows Phone off contract becouse I'm totally over my HTC One M7. But I don't see many people going for something a few people have and no store reps are pushing for.... Posted via Windows Phone Central App
  • Blame MS!
  • Yes!.. We must hold MS accountable for the way stores have no interest in WP.. MS must find a way to change this...
  • Daniel - has there been anything from official VZ or MS channels about the Icon?
  • Nada, but all indications suggest that it is still getting Lumia Cyan. So there's that.
  • What year?
  • 1st quarter 2016.
  • Dan, do you guys have an Icon with cyan? You said you had the icon months before actual release. Its leaving me to assume you know something you can't tell ;)
  • No Icon with Cyan, sorry.
  • Hopefully.  Then there is Denim; hopefully the Icon will get that as well, but I'm not holding my breath on that.
  • My friend with Verizon owns an Icon and the agent he spoke with said that the Icon wouldn't be getting any more updates.  Not sure if the guy knew what he was talking about but if this is true then shame on Verizon.
  • What a great day, I saw Denim on my L928, took a screenshot too, sadly I may never see it again...but hey! I have that screenshot..!
  • Idc about Verizon. World phone plz
  • Nod of approval.
  • I thought I saw something the other day mentioning that Verizon is getting the 830. Are they getting both the 735 AND the 830? Or did I just dream that?
  • They are not getting the Lumia 830. Only AT&T so far.
  • Maybe cricket? No?
  • If Cricket Wireless got the Lumia 735, Windows Phone would explode in the US...
  • But that would make too much sense. This is Microsoft we're talking about...
  • Droid turbo. Thanks vzw. Gonna miss my ICON. Wankers
  • Right?! I've seen that one too. If they could do a WP with those specs.. Damn! And that battery! 3900mah!
  • Lol dang, if they can do that already, the 1530 is going to effin amazing ;D. 4500 Mah battery, 5G ready, 810 pro snapdragon chip, 4K/1080p qhd or ips clear lack display, god I'm drooling X3
  • To my understanding, T-Moblie and Sprint aren't saints either when it comes to pushing out Windows Phone updates. That, too, needs to change.
  • Very true, although you could argue they are smaller, have smaller budgets, etc. Verizon has no excuse.
  • Agreed.
  • Verizon user here...I just commented on the 830 article about it not coming to Verizon, now this? I love my WP, been a supporter since the HTC trophy, it seems someone is really trying to hurt WP. Moves like this, carrier exclusives, no new flagships, wtf?! Really. Unfreaking believable!
  • And how long did we have to wait just to get the HTC Trophy from them? They've been pissing on WP and WP users since day one. I'm looking at other carriers, because I sure as hell won't use Android or iOS.
  • That's true! The trophy was actually a good seller for Verizon, though they would never admit it! The Icon had one of the highest seller ratings too! I was so looking forward to that one, but with limited, if any software updates, I can't do it. I've always said customers want options, or they'll go somewhere else! I'm looking at AT&T... Hopefully, we'll get a nice flagship soon!
  • "it seems someone is really trying to hurt WP" Dude that's exactly how I see it and I feel like its just something against Microsoft in general. Like the media and peoples perspective is just anti Microsoft and its the norm. So many uninformed people out there its crazy lol. Sucks man cuz I really want a next gen windows phone and I was going to settle for the 830 and Tmobile apparently is on the same boat as Verizon. Yeah no word on an 830 release but they have a sign up page for the Nexus 6? which was announced yesterday GTFO dude that's some BS.
  • It's frustrating because there seems to be a small audience who really want the platform to do well! But like I said, with the carrier exclusives, late software updates and the public perception of Microsoft, how can WP get ahead? My girlfriend went from Android to a 928 and loves it! Not that specs are the end all on a phone, I don't want to go from my 928 to a lesser model. There's very little I feel like upgrading to, especially since nothing high end is coming to any carrier! The HTC one m8 looks good, but will it get software updates? That's what worries me. The 830 looks o.k., but I'd have to switch carriers and it doesn't move me that much. My buddy out here in Los Angeles works for T-mobile, and he admitted that he gets more money(incentives) for pushing Android and IOS. I know Microsoft wants to push the low end phones to lure people from the other platforms, but if someone is invested in an ecosystem already, it's going to be hard to sway them to WP, low price or not. Most would rather have a cheap Motorola phone.
  • Awful. Verizon is singlehandedly holding back Windows Phone in the US.
  • Exactly...Microsoft won't stand up to them..all we can do is switch to Att!!
  • ^ as soon as my contact ends that's what I'll be doing
  • Yep same here bro
  • Yes yes they are
  • I think the problem really lies in the fact that Verizon uses CDMA. The standard used on pretty much every other carrier in the world is GSM, and I'm sure this tiny little thing is a major pain in the ass for any phone manufacturer. "Oh yeah, I have to agree with Verizon and make a phone specific to them, whoopie". Verizon represents maybe 5% worldwide WP users at best. Eurofag here, I'm just ranting but that's my honest opinion Posted via the Windows Phone Central App for Android
  • I've always wondered about that whole CDMA thing too... I could be talking out of my arse here, but when foreign visitors travel to the USA, I guess they can't roam on Verizon's network either? Telco companies must make a fair whack of money out of international roaming charges and it strikes me as strange that they would do themselves out this bonus revenue? I understand that their reasons for going CDMA are likely historic, would cost a fortune to change, and probably far outweigh any additional gains they might make. Still seems strange though from an outside perspective. Also, what happens when Verizon customers travel abroad? Are they able to use their devices on foreign networks?
  • Actually, CDMA won the battle. GSM is a form of CDMA. Regardless, I'm with Verizon and I'm going to an AT&T store in the next week or so. I'll give Verizon some time, but I pay for seven devices. We'll see what they can offer.
  • I promised myself I wouldn't say anything negative about Microsoft and their practices so I'm just going to wait for an explanation.
  • I mean, I can see no way in which Microsoft is happy about this at all. It's not their network though, so they have to wait for the green light from Verizon.
  • Why cant Microsoft step up and work with the smaller GSM MVNO's or even T-Mobile and work out a deal to sell them unlocked and provide support? Or just sell them unlocked outright? They have Nokia's hardware division backing them up, they should be able to sell unlocked GSM phones and support them. They cant keep leaving it to the carriers as they are the ones doing their level best NOT to sell Windows Phones. Unless they don't care, which might well be the case in their new 'mobile (ios, android) first, cloud first" world.
  • Microsoft Stores are selling unlocked Lumias now. They have had the unlocked Lumia 1020 and various other phones on sale in their stores and online. They are moving towards that model. However, with all the major carriers having their own LTE bands (and CDMA for some for voice), it complicates things. Also, in the US, it is just uncommon to buy a phone without a contract. Most just buy direct through your carrier. It's just what people know.
  • But at the price of the unlocked 1020, there wont be many takers. However more people are buying the cheaper devices off contract and for a phone like the 735, it could go for $250 plus they could even throw in a free Xbox game or something or offer them at a discount with a Surface. If they price it at the same level as you'd get it on Tmo or ATT off contract that wouldnt ruffle thier feathers and it would still be atrractively priced (not much more than the Blu Win HD for example) and they would sell a lot more than the route they are taking now where one carrier is going to delay then probably retire the phone within months.
  • Microsoft unlocked smartphones are just unlocked exclusive carrier smartphones.  They never gone through the trouble of adding back all the U.S. radios to these phone to make them work for all the U.S. carriers.   It no iPhone or Google Nexus or Google Play Edition smartphones that will work on all U.S. carriers.   Microsoft is one lazy phone manufacturer!  You can buy an unlocked 635 but it only works on the AT&T network.  No T-Mobile radios in it!  
  • Okay but why not try and get these phones on other carriers
  • They're such boobers, always releasing devices around February and barely ANY of them are Red like their brand... They make ZERO sense, the DERP! =/
  • I bought an icon in anticipation of switching to Verizon at year's end. But their lackadaisical attitude is pushing me to ATT. One of the reasons I shied away from them was PMA, but it seems they are accomodating Qi now, so eff you Verizon.
  • Typical Verizon. This is why I am switching carriers next month, although I am literally just waiting for a new flagship phone running 10 probably. If they are releaseing 735 next year, there next one will hit late next year... ridiculous...
  • If they wait, I am switching my 8 lumia 822's to 830's on ATT.
  • Perfect move ..
  • 8?
  • Quantity of 8  model Lumia 822's ... moving all 8 lines to ATT and get Lumia 830's
  • I'll be right behind you and dragging my wife and daughter with me, screaming with their Galaxies in tow.
  • Oh by the way in Sweden the Nokia Lumia 735 can be had at 1990:- SKR from Elgiganten where in some shops the "Almighty" Moto G sells for 2150:- SKR , so Posted via the Windows Phone Central App for Android
  • Verizon the evil empire strikes again! This IS the last straw for me! I will be going to either TMobile or AT&T even if I have to pay an ETF!
  • Tmo will pay the ETF for you. Just a pity they don't have any decent WP devices either. But you could always import an unlocked one.
  • T-Mobile will pay your etf
  • Go for at&t , at least you will get updates...
  • Yep I'm headed straight to att after my contract is up
  • As the guys above said, T-Mobile will reimburse your ETF. I had an Icon and wasn't very happy with Verizon, just moved to T-Mobile this week, coverage is awesome where I am. I was also using a Moto X on Verizon and was pretty happy with it, but VZ and the state of the Icon tipped me over the edge :p I picked up the Lumia 635, decent little phone for the price, I'll use it with a Nexus 5 on T-Mobile, no need to worry about carrier updates with that phone :)
  • Don't go to T-Mobile because they under support devices too. Still waiting on an update for my 925. . .
  • Verizon is full of shit as I've outfitted my entire management staff with the icon and they love it. They seem to be joining everyone else outside of ATT on the smear WP campaign. That's why I don't use Verizon for my personal phone(currently HTC 8X, waiting for the shipment of my green 1520.3)
  • Stay stealthy
  • Death to Verizon, jk...
  • Verizon should be barred by Microsoft from receiving ANY Windows Phones.  They have clearly shown nothing but disrespect for Windows Phones.  "Lack of sales" is a nice way of saying that Verizon sales persons actively pursuaded potential Windows Phone customers to purchase an Android or iPhone instead, something I've personally witnessed and experienced myself.  Yes Microsoft, I would testify for you in your law suit.  Windows Phone sales in other countries have shown a consistent increase and I feel if given a fair chance, could do as well here in the USA.  AT&T would do well to "buddy up" with Microsoft.  With Windows 10 coming right around the corner adding the potential for Developers to go "GA-GA" over the platform, Windows 10 phones could be the iPhone replacement.  And if AT&T has it and Verizon doesn't...well, we've seen that before in the form of an Apple product, haven't we?   :-)
  • Was with you up to the Windows 10 fantasy, never going to happen I'm afraid.
  • A man can dream can't he? lol
  • I got mine three days ago in the middle east , we are very very much supported than the U.S. , they are making the same mistake Sony did .......
  • Can only laugh, what a great partner, another brilliant move! /s. Clearly they want to kill WP, right from the beginning when they only carried the Trophy and as now, did their best not to sell it. When will Microsoft wake up to these saboteurs and stop giving them exclusives?
  • I blame Microsoft , just pay some cash and they will sell it
  • So Microsoft should pay them to sell the phone AND keep the profits from their sales? Sounds like a great plan..../s
  • Theefman , Microsoft should concentrate on the market share not profit , they have tons of other things that gives them profits.
  • Surely MS has a lawyer or two who can add a contract requirement for participating carriers to promptly push updates. The anger at Verizon is bleeding onto MS.
  • I feel lucky being in the UK. You lot from the U.S. have to put up with some serious crap.
  • Those of us who can think for ourselves don't deal with such BS, GSM unicorn 1520.3 all the way!
  • This begs the question, why is Verizon the only US carrier getting this phone? Do the other carriers not want to carry these phones or is this just another carrier exclusive thing that Windows Phones seem to be the only ones subjected to?
  • Here's what I guess:  Verizon says to Microsoft: We're not carrying any of your phones unless they are exclusive to us.  Microsoft, having 4% market share, has no bargaining position, so they relent. This is why Microsoft needs a massive marketing push that moves Windows Phone to 10% US market share, even under current carrier-exclusive conditions.  Then Microsoft would have enough juice to say "forget you, we don't do carrier exclusives anymore" and Verizon might actually have to think about it. It all comes down to market share, something Satya Nadella doesn't think is important.  Not good.
  • Even if this was true its obvious that Verizon doesn't try to sell the phones they get as exclusives so why give them such a deal? The phones aren't getting sold either way so its better to tell VZW to get stuffed and find another avenue to sell the phones.
  • I agree with both of you.
  • What if both AT&T and Verizon are giving Microsoft this same ultimatum?  AT&T is the one that initially was getting flagship Nokia phone exclusives.  At some point, you have to play ball. An aggressive marketing plan that drives WP to 10% and then 20% market share solves all the problems.  Not that it's easy at this point.
  • I saw that in the U.S.; Microsoft is edging on going below 2%!  Microsoft has nothing to sell in the U.S. marketplace.  735 is not until 2015 and 830 is AT&T exclusive.   What about the independents who buy smartphones but are on pre-paid or just use the voice and Wi-Fi?  Some of these people are not poor but the opposite.  Can I say Warren Buffet types?
  • I'm so glad I left Verizon
  • Who else is aghast that Verizon is even mentioned in a headline?
  • All headlines that include the word "Verizon" should also include the word "Blows"
  • Why there is even "carrier thing" in the US , other countries without carrier thing is much better
  • Have you seen who owns our government?
  • Needs to go to T-Mobile and Sprint...
  • Microsoft has to get away from the carrier strangle hold. Could they just partner with a 2nd tier like Cricket and offer new phones in a timely fashion along with updates that are not controlled by the carrier?
  • It should be on ALL prepaid MVNO's. Straight Talk, Net10, Cricket, GoPhone, Joe Bob's Gooder Cell Phone Service. EVERY ONE.
  • Yeah, makes sense, because you really don't want phones like this to be available during the Christmas season.  It might poach sales of Samsung Galaxy.
  • Verizon sucks, I love my Icon why did they rid of it? and why still no Cyan? all ATT phones have it!
  • (cough) Verizon still sells the 928 (cough)
  • This is the phone my friend is really interested in! She has a dying iPhone 4 and is currently using a horrible $20 Android which she despises but is tolerating because I told her the 735 is coming soon and would fit her lifestyle (selfie)
  • Get an unlocked one from Verizon or best buy
  • Better to move a carrier that will support your chosen platform aka ATT.
  • The problem is she wants the 735 because of the selfie cam.  So if Verizon is the only one, there are no other options.  She might have to go for an Android selfie phone since those are popping up at a number of places.
  • Sounds like Verizon is sabotaging Windows Phone sales. This with lagging on firmware releasing... Three strikes you're out. Microsoft crack the whip on Verizon. They're f'ing up your game!
  • Microsoft needs to find a way to gain leverage with Verizon. Verizon and Microsoft may be partners but Verizon isn't taking Microsoft seriously.
  • That's because not even M$ takes Windows Phone seriously.
  • Cant.....argue with that.
  • So sad but true
    MSFT r the biggest enemy to the WP Platform
  • You got that right!  That coming straight from many WP user's point of view!
  • Verizon doesn't give a rat's ass about it's WP users. Denim is about to come out and we still haven't seen Cyan yet. I will.not renew my contract with them.
  • This US carriers' thing is really ridiculous. Here in Brazil, the carriers sell the phones already unlocked and we are free to use it with another carrier.
    There's no way WP will grow this way, without options to consumers.
  • Wasn't there talks a while ago about Verizon slowly easing away from android due to various issues with upkeep and whatnot and start to push windows phone more cause it was overall cheaper overhead? I recall someone in forums mentioning this back after the 928 came out. I take it that plan fell through?
  • Some fake insider probably trying to get more customers on verizon, same crap was said about carriers wanting to move away from the iphone, but the reality is nothing remotely like that has ever occured on any US carrier.
  • Why does MS even try with Verizon? Maybe they should have an advertisement cause.
  • Biggest carrier in the US. They WANT to play ball believe me.
  • If the biggest carrier is actively working against you, getting exclusives then retiring them, releasing them late, witholding updates, and refusing to sell the phones, whats the point? End result is the phones dont get sold, better to work with a smaller fish who will actually sell a few devices as opposed to none on Verizon.
  • Couldn't have said it better myself theefman. F Verizon.
  • +635
  • Dead phone roaming! Dead phone roaming!
  • Glad I had to leave Verizon.
  • Here I was banking on the announcement of a NEW Flagship device from Big Red and now I'm not so sure.  928 contract is up next spring, so I guess I have time to wait and see how all this pans out. Patience Grasshopper...
  • Lack of sales is the only reason all this is happening. If WP was popular all these carriers would be running to MS.
  • How will WP get popular (at least in the US) when the same carriers actively refuse to sell the devices even after getting them as exclusives?
  • Any hopes Verizon will get the 930?
  • Pretty sure we saw a FCC document confirming Sprint will be carrying this phone.
  • I still don't understand why Tmobile doesn't sell high end WP since they sell all their phones at full retail price with no contract. Maybe MS should sell Tmobile variants thru it's stores or online
  • T mobile needs more windows phones because the 521 and 635 both lack a front facing camera and flashlight.I have a 521 and I think its a good phone in all but t mobile really needs to step up their game.
  • Useless carrier...they've been screwing around with WP for a while now...
    The last phone they tried to sell decently was the lumia 822...
  • I was hoping the 735 release would coincide with Icon getting Denim. Release a Denim phone, push the Denim update.
  • Fuck Verizon!!! I have the Icon and have lost complete faith with their ability to sell anything Microsoft. I have been to every carrier as a technology rep for a fitness company and always ask about Windows phones while I am there to just find out what the reps know. Well let me tell you every carrier, and i mean every carrier said they push iPhone first and android second and where told to not push anything Windows!!!...The sales associate stated that this came from management higher up in the company!!! I asked the rep have they actually used or even know the features that windows phone offers and they all reply "not really"...So i show them my ICON and some of the cool interface and functions and the response is "I didn't know windows phone had that, or did this, or had that app!"...So fuck the carriers! I will buy my next windows phone unlocked!!! US phone carriers are the reason why Windows phone cant get more market share! PERIOD!
  • 928 and 822 customers right now, but switching to ATT and the 830 next month. Very frustrated with Verizon. Not customer friendly.
  • +822
  • Verizon is the worst partner for Windows Phone ever...
  • I really, really hope T-Mobile gets this phone. From what I've seen, it's my ideal phone.
  • mother of god
  • Man it's got to suck to be on a carrier other than AT&T in the US if you are a WP fan.
  • At least Verizon made an announcement. There's still no word in T-Mobile's 830. And they still have yet to release Cyan
    :'(
  • The very first sentence states that Verizon has not announced the Lumia 735 as of right now.
  • I'd still rather deal with the issues WP users have with Verizon then what we deal with over at Sprint. If this phone wont release until next year for Verizon, then there's no chance this phone is released on Sprint in the near future. 
  • I switched to Verizon from Sprint because of Sprint's lack of Windows Phone support.  Looks like I may be switching to AT&T soon.
  • What does ATT have though? At least you guys had the Ativ SE, Icon and M8 to choose from, regardless of how bad the support was. What has ATT released this year?
  • They have released the 8.1 update. Lol
  • Yeah.............
  • As a Sprint customer with a Windows Phone; that was my initial thought considering both carriers are CDMA. I hope what you're thinking doesn't come true. I was looking forward this Christmas to potentially getting Sprint's first Nokia phone.  
  • They've made no announcement that they're getting the rumored 735, and the only company that has, Verizon, is pushing it back until 2015.  The last time Sprint announced a Windows Phone, it took nearly 8 months for them. 
  • You're right that there hasn't been an official announcement from Sprint. But Chuong Nguye on this site reported on leaked FCC document filing for Sprint for Lumia 735. So hopefully this will actually be true but I agree Sprint  support of Windows Phone leaves a lot to be desired.  I'm starting to agree with Paul Thurott in that if you really want a Windows Phone you'll likely have to go with AT&T since they're the only carrier that seems to be all in on Windows Phone. http://www.wpcentral.com/microsofts-lumia-735-selfie-phone-could-be-spri...
  • I want 8.1 on my Lumia Icon. I just bought mine about a month ago. So now what? Just run preview for developers until my contract is up? This is ridiculous
  • Maybe Verizon will say no one is buying in 2014, so we will just cancel the 735.
  • True! They seem good at that! Frustrated Verizon user, but my contract is up next month!
  • My Verizon contract ends in December but I was willing to wait for a new phone come spring 2015 before renewing.  I won't renew for a 6 month old phone though.  Verizon needs to get their shit together.  For the first time in the 4 years I've been with Verizon, I'm seriously thinking of switching to AT&T.
  • Yep I'm switching for sure
  • A year from now we will be reading complaints for Verizon 735 owners who are still waiting for Windows Phone 10 lol.
  • Is Verizon skipping cyan and headed right to 10 or are they trying slowly to do away with WP users??
  • I don't believe they're going to update any existing Windows Phone. They literally don't care. If every single Windows Phone user dropped them, the loss of revenue would be a fraction of a percent. They. Do. Not. Care.
  • Is it possible to buy a world verson from another country (say the dual sim) and use it on T-Mobile or AT&T?
  • Don't expect LTE.
  • If its released in Latin America, yes. Just like the Lumia 1520.3 which supports LTE on Tmo and ATT.
  • I checked Epansys and that model is not for sale yet!  They only have the international version? I think!  It is $319 in stock too!   
  • Launch in early 2015 and retire in mid 2015 Déjà vu.
  • Fuck u Verizon ❕❕❕
  • Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck you Verizon
  • Who else thinks Microsoft should be a carrier?
  • Me! Lol, I've thought that before.
  • My dream
  • I heard T-Mobile's for sale... :)  
  • Who would they rent the bandwidth from? ATT is the only network that's comparable in coverage, and there's no way Microsoft is going to build their own infrastructure.
  • What are the odds that Verizon retires it before they release it?
  • JESUS CHRIST.  PUT THIS SHIT ON TMOBILE.  This shit about carrier exclusive is such bullshit.  I suggest verizon users to move to AT&T, Tmobile or Sprint.  Make it known.
  • NOT Sprint. That's just trading one carrier mess for another.
  • Everyone flood their Twitter.  @verizon
  • I hope it comes to at&t the 735 looks really good, design is far better then the 830.
  • 928 contract is up next spring. Count me in for moving from Verizon to AT&T, especially if AT&T is allowing Qi. Been with VZ for as long as I've had a phone but they're driving me insane lately. Plus my corp discount is changing from VZ to AT&T so it seems like a no-brainer.
  • If Tmobile was smart they would release the 735/830/M8 now and offer to pay Verizon Windows Phone users termination fees to switch.
  • The problem is that T-Mobile has to sell iPhones... They dug that grave and now they have to live in it. Seriously, go into the store and they show you the iPhone, then the GS5... Then the check your credit... They they give you te 16GB or 128GB based on your score... lol  
  • The 735 has an exclusivity agreement with Verizon just like the Lumia Icon has!  Plus, the radios frequencies in the 735 are only built for the 1900/2100 frequencies.   It seems it was only suppose to work for either Verizon or AT&T.  No 1700 in the firmware.   I think Nokia/Microsoft had their heart set on either one and did not include the 1700 like they have for the 520 and 635 models and then blocked the approach ones out!  The international version; this time; made sure it would not work with data at all!  I guess Verizon complainted about the 930; and Nokia/Microsoft made sure that nothing would work except voice calls.  LOL!
  • The l735 is a bloody good phone and pricing is perfect £130 on upgrade what more could you want
  • Omg! Are you kidding me?? I've been telling my sister this is the phone she should get! (only Verizon gets signal where they live and she can't afford expensive phones).
  • MS needs to stop being so weak and press the carriers on their practices. Between Verizon pulling crap like this and ATT having reps tell customers not to get a Windows Phone because MS is getting ready to file BK and cancel WP, or Best Buy refusing to carry any WP's at all. Something needs to be done. I've got a theory about why this stuff is happening that I feel confident about but MS needs to do some investigating. I am also thinking of going to places and asking them about WP and documenting everything. This is pathetic and As far as I'm concerned...criminal.
  • What's your theory?
  • i was going to do the same thing.  I wish i had those hidden camera's and catch these pricks lie about WP.
  • How do you suggest they do that? With 3% global marketshare, every carrier in the US could tell Microsoft to go **** themselves. Literally. This isn't the PC market, and Microsoft is barely keeping Windows Phone alive. I predict they will pull the plug in the next 2 years.
  • This is far too late, missing the holiday season is going to really impact sales...
  • Wow. A wimpy phone and late to the party too.
  • Very happy I did not go with Verizon. I pay a little more on AT&T but get great offerings for Windows phone
  • Unless you're on AT&T it doesn't look like your getting any new window phones this year.
  • Carrier exclusivity is the main reason wp can't gain market share in usa. In Europe we usually buy off-contract and wp has already overtaken apple in some countries. Shame on you, Verizon.
  • their chosen transition tech ehrpd lte does support fallback but I assume that was added to the spec after their expansion
  • The reason the icon or don't sell on Verizon is its not windows 8.1 which is the best os
  • I thought Sprint was getting this too right?
  • Chuong Nguye on this site reported that an FCC filing for Sprint for the Lumia 735. So we'll see. I'm trying not to get my hopes up only because Sprint has never been all in on Windows Phone. http://www.wpcentral.com/microsofts-lumia-735-selfie-phone-could-be-spri...
  • Hide and seek with 735!!!!! Fun commercial, makes me want it even more. can't wait!!!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCPL17XyFKQ
  • Why bother with this carrier?
  • I think it's clear if you want Windows go AT&T/Cricket
  • I cant switch carriers because my parents are still paying for my phone bill :)
    And so I've been stuck with whatever VZW offers with WPs. So I had the Trophy, now the 8X and was planning on getting the 735 this fall, but obviously not now.
    And since my phone is on my last leg (I cant believe in saying this) I will be upgrading to the iPhone 6.
    Its time to try something new for me and until the 735 or some nice Lumia hits VZW I will buy that unlocked, but ill be moving on for awhile until MS AND Verizon care about WP
  • Ditto here, HTC Trophy, Lumia 822 and was hoping for 8.1 phone next. Guess it wont happen. The Sony Z3v may be my next phone now-at least I can still use my wireless charging pads and 128gb sdcard.
  • Same here..I had an HTC Trophy, 2 different 822's, and currently a 928! I noticed the z3v as well. I wish WP had a high end with those specs.. Or the Droid Turbo...I want a huge battery and at least an 800 processor. Contract is up next month.
  • Hopefully this changes as they will miss out on alot of sales. However I'm guessing they want to release it with windows 10?? If I recall correctly Lumia Black rolled out around Jan.
  • Screw Verizon and screw Microsoft. Nexus 5 w lollipop my next phone.
  • So sick of Verizon... When is long range wifi coming
  • The reason it's terrible, and I agree, is that it completely misses the 2014 holiday shopping season.  Early 2014, January or February, means the device is dead on arrival, on Verizon wireless in the U.S., that is.
  • And MS needs to SAY something. What's going on, do they have a plan, are they giving up on WP, is this how WP will be from now on, are they willing to let their partners screw their loyal customers? People are panicking and WP lovers are talking iPhone 6 and Lollipop!
  • This is why I dropped Verizon like a hot potato, they are horrible with software updates and seriously lack in windows phone options, not to mention their release cycles are horrid.
  • Microsoft should develop a Lumia phone that is both cdma gsm capable carries every band and sell it unlocked. When people start buying the phone because of the freedom it offers users. Choice to use any carriers network w your preferred device.
  • Damn.  I got excited when I saw the Verizon logo and thought they had released Cyan.  Hopefully, Cyan is released by the time this phone is!
  • Again, a carrier exclusive buries a great device! I still think the secret to Windows Phone World Domination is the MVNO's and smaller manufacturers. Look athe the Blu Win HD for $179. Works with AT&T/T-Mobile and any of their MVNO's and looks good to boot. A gig of RAM and 8GB internal + SD, 5" display and a decent 8MP shooter on the back, it's a steal. Pop that on the talker-less $34.99 plan from Red Pocket (300 Min, Unlimited txt, 2.5GB 4G/Unlimited 2G data) and you have a great deal. If you have to stick to a Lumia though, grabbing the 635 for T-Mobile and their Simple Starter plan for two months will set you back $80 for the phone and $45+tax per month for the two months. When that is done, you can email support and get the unlock code. All in all, the 635 on any GSM network for $175 isn't a bad deal.
  • Yep same here
  • Verizon sucks with Windows Phones, they don't even push for them...im might have to switch to AT&T...sad to say that.
  • Microsoft should make a contract to not port new smartphones to a network without it releasing updates so Verizon 735 would come with denim and older releases getting a fresh features OS This goes for T mobile as well foremost and should be applied to to all carriers contract with Microsoft
  • Why show something and release months later? No one wants by it by then.
  • T mobile and Verizon mobile: Making the least of it's customers and our well demanded and promised updates!
  • Maybe they'll come out with a 830 version first.
    Verizon had a post about the 830 on its blog back when it was announce by MS in Germany.
  • MS put a great device "icon" on Verizon and failed miserably! Why even try there? Stick with the plan with ATT. They'll come if they want it badly.
  • Probably because it's the largest carrier in the country?
    Why not release the 830 on all major carriers as originally rumored?
  • Stick with ATT. Verizon not well known for WP friendliness. Once WP make a name at ATT, then explode! MS just in a rush to show and late to deliver. Not good strategy.
  • Verizon is doing Windows Phone no favors at all
  • DUCK VERIZON, and their cannibalization of the windows phone platform..... Literally in every way..... From lack of promotion, to horrible sales staff, to utterly embarrassing rollout of updates, its no wonder they are retiring the icon. I have the icon, and have convinced at least 3 other people to get one. We are all on the DP, and all love it, and can't see why people live their boring iPhones so much
  • I have an idea, lets pay for exclusives on phones, release them months after they are available, and then not promote them and retire them when they don't sell..... This is smart business
  • Already gave up on the 735 for a Moto G with 4G LTE here in the US. I was waiting, and waiting, and waiting... nothing. Love the WPCentral site, which I found when researching WP devices. Maybe in 2 years when I want a new phone, there'll be a viable Microsoft made WP at a competitive price actually released on time. In the meantime, I might buy a Win JR from BLU just to play around with 8.1.
  • Now how do I say this with about being rude....hmmmm FUCK VERIZON !!!!!!!! Nope,.no other way to put it
  • Why bother?
  • I am done with fucking Verizon along with my 928. Fuck Verizon.
  • WP support by Verizon has been total crap, people are still waiting for 8.1. To hell with Verizon if you want to use a Windows Phone
  • Do you think anyone at Microsoft WP reads the posts on this forum? Seriously. Everytime anything in the headline includes"Verizon" all of us fools who have "V" as a carrier and are waiting for cyan use it as an opportunity to vent our frustrations. And more often than not include Microsoft in the venting. Rightly or wrongly the perception gaining acceptance with the public is that Microsoft cares as little for their customers as Verizon. This at a critical time when they are trying to gain market share. WTF. Really?
  • I could care less about the 830 or the 735 I have a Icon that is better than both of those phones put together. I just want my update. Verizon has gotten to big for it's britches im sick of all these carries that don't support the windows devices I have only had my icon 2 months and now it's retired? We have know idea of any updates that are coming soon and if we do get a update it'll be well into 2015 Hay if it is any xda geniuses on here please make a hack/mode so we can get the updates with out the need for the carriers.
  • How can it be because of lack of sales? The 928, activ, and m8 are selling that good? There has got to be more to it
  • I really wish that the Lumia brand would stop being carrier exclusive, and have Microsoft make them world phones for all carriers and just sell it themselves. If carriers want to see them that would be fine too, but leave it up to me. That way everyone can get it regardless of lockouts and we all can have the same software.
  • At least this time the rest of the world doesn't have to wait like it was with the Icon and the 930..
  • I have to look into other options. Sadly, being on Verizon for the past 7 years isn't helping. Main reason why I went with them first was because most of my family was on it as well: still had to deal with minutes. I'm considering about switching myself, but I can't seem to weigh the options. Too bad the Icon is locked to Verizon... If I were to switch carriers, I need to weight out my options. I need the carrier that gives me heaps of data for a low pricepoint, yet allows their phones to be updated at a timely matter. Verizon just wants your money for the latest and "greatest" iPhone or Android using their EDGE program, in which makes no fucking sense to begin with: give us much more money per month to upgrade faster. But anyway, doesn't T-mo slow you down to 1X after a set amount of data? It's one reason that I might go for AT&T, but then I read various comments about their phones not receiving updates either. Help a guy out.
  • Microsoft should start their own carrier.
  • The whole concept of giving carriers exclusives is misguided. I fault Stephen Elop for this policy. I don't understand why Microsoft sticks with granting exclusives. This policy has obviously failed to substantially increase market share in the US.
  • And this is why I'm on AT&T...
  •     Maybe it’s the conspiracy theorist in me but I think Verizon is deliberately stalling the release to sabotage sales. By the time they release the phone, it will be six months old and everyone else will be announcing their new flagships on top of the fact that  everyone will have forgotten about the 735 which will result in poor sales. That way, they can then play devils’ advocate saying that they are trying to support the WP platform but they’re just not getting the sales. The same thing they did with the Icon.
  • Meh.
  • Of course it is. Brilliant. Just wait until all the Android users have Lollipop.
  • I wish Microsoft would wise up and put all their low end and mid range phones on GSM prepaid networks in the US. ALL of them. Straight Talk, Net10, Cricket, Gophone, all of them. It would boost their marketshare, and get phones into people's hands. This carrier exclusive bullshit is insanity. They don't have clout or market share to compete with high end Android and Apple phones. Microsoft's entire marketing division should be shot.
  • The 630 on Cricket sold like hotcakes. I'm sure plenty of people bought 630/635s for T-Mo, GoPhone, and Straight Talk as well. I would have bought a 735 unlocked for Cricket, but this endless delay coupled with my failing device and Virgin Mobile frustration led me to get a Moto G with LTE and switch to Cricket. If it didn't take months after announcing to release a GSM 735 in the US, I would've bought it. I would've even paid a slight premium for it - the Moto G was $199.99, I would've easily paid $250 for a 735. I might consider selling the G if the 735 ever comes to the US, but I doubt it. I really enjoy the phone and will probably use it for a couple years. Maybe by then Microsoft will learn how to produce and release its own phones directly like Motorola and Google.
  • Microsoft/Nokia should of learn from the Lumia Icon/930 experience and get T-Mobile on board instead of going for the main U.S. carrier or just sell it online at their Microsoft online store and Microsoft retail stores.  Now this is happening to the 735 as it did in the Icon.  LOL!   Looking back; I glad I pulled hte trigger on the iPhone 6; instead of Waiting for Godot!  LOL. 
  • Microsoft has a all lot of work to do with windows phone, it has got to stop pushing out basic features as exclusive updates, features that we just got in 8.1 and a waiting for in denim should have already appeared in the first release, the UI needs much polishing, a fully customizable user interface, android never had those one million apps in the beginning but had a fast app growth because android looked similar to existing OS not something out of the blue like WP and IOS which differs alittle but all the same, windows phone should have been an open platform, do you think apple deserves that 12%? For all the it has been around? Microsoft needs to work on the UI and make sure apps look better and get the same features as other apps, copy from what others have and bring to its OS after all they copied the pull down mat in the first place, they should make the OS more colourful and interactive rather than b&w I don't know why but i think windows for phones should come with the desktop as well
  • Well for what its worth Verizon just retired the 928, was looking at it earlier today on their website and when I looked this evening it was gone.  Online chat confirmed it had been retired.