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Windows Mobile 7: What we expect and what we are hearing

Okay everyone, time to put on your rumor helmets (they're like beer helmets, but filled with vodka). Here's what we are hearing about Windows Mobile 7 from various sources (none of which has been announced by Microsoft). 

We'll spill the beans on what we're hearing about supposed various versions of Seven, two WM7 devices including full specs (the LG "Apollo" and HTC "Obsession") time-frames and even features.

There's a lot below, and we need to start with a disclaimer. What follows are details and speculation from anonymous sources. Some of the details have been corroborated by other sources, but even that doesn't mean they'll end up being true. Other parts have to be taken with a grain of salt, as they seem to be too good to be true, and they may well be. So keep that in mind as you read this piece. Fact is until Microsoft or its partners announce anything, nothing is for certain.

Also note that none of the images below are "new," but rather are recycled images from earlier stories that relate to or corroborate the accompanying information.

Now onto the goods ...

Software

Nomenclature

First, it's not Windows Mobile 7 but just "Seven," so that's how we're going to refer to the OS from now on. Also the phrase "Microsoft Zune Phone Experience" may be tossed around.

Second, we are hearing there will be two versions: Business edition and Media edition — those aren't necessarily the names we'll see them launch with, just different branches of development. We believe this partially explains some of the seemingly contradictory rumors about release dates, as they are not on the same release track.

Windows phone Seven Business edition (BE)

The business edition is the version that is nearest in completion, but one we might not see bare naked. It's a more stripped down version of Seven and while it can still do media, it has less thrill than the Media edition (see below).

This is also the version that most likely will see OEM overlays on top of, like HTC's Sense UI.

This version will also feature the ability to sync "to the cloud" with multiple devices, including your home PC. This won't be so much as syncing though as live manipulation of data — meaning you can work on and edit a Word document stored on your PC or work computer remotely. It reportedly also will allow multiple user access, meaning two or three people can all view and edit the same document dynamically, from different computers, including your Windows phone.  You can even take a photo on your phone and embed it to the document directly.

For most consumers, that's no big deal. But for business users, it promises to be amazing. In fact, Office in general is suppose to be an entirely new, extremely impressive experience — which is actually something we would expect.

Why a more stripped down version of Windows Mobile? Simple.

  1. It allows OEMs more flexibility on customization.
  2. It makes the device less resource-intensive, saving processing power, RAM and battery for cloud services and business applications.

The HTC HD2 reportedly is able to run this version currently and it is slated for a possible October/November upgrade. Also, the HD2 reportedly runs Seven with "minimal lag" at this very early stage of porting.

Minimum resolution for programs on Seven is 800 pixels by 480 pixels (WVGA), which if accurate puts today's top-of-the-line Windows phone at the bottom of tomorrow's specs.  Unfortunately, without actual images, describing the OS seems to be a bit of a challenge. The closest we've heard is 

Think TouchFLO (slider tabs) meeting up with a stock SPB Shell (lots of information on multiple screen) mixed with a very well integrated message and app launcher — almost a 'fun' BlackBerry interface. Seems like the stock shell is more like a really good BB theme than iPhone or Android.

Windows phone Seven Media edition (ME)

This

is the big kahuna. The one that Microsoft is really banking on. The one that is not yet nearly as complete, and, yes, if there was one we probably won't have in our hands till 2011, it's this version.

It's also likely the version we'll see snippets of in Barcelona next month at Mobile World Congress.

Expect portions of this version to be demoed on either a hitherto unseen seen LG or HTC device (more on that below). 

What portions of the OS will be shown off at Mobile World Congress? We're hearing HD video, a Zune-like music player, and possibly streaming TV. Also, bits of the control panel and other aspects of the UI may be shown. Because it is not complete, we won't see the whole OS in action.

It will be a tease, for sure.

The plan for this version on release is to have support for

  • Silverlight
  • Mediaroom (opens in new tab)
  • XBox Live (possibly gameplay)
  • Facebook and Twtter interfaces (similar to Xbox)
  • Zune Music integration

Early reports mention syncing Twitter and Facebook right on your home screen (hardly a new invention) and that Xbox integration is well under way, looking "awesome."

We're also hearing the Media Edition is still very dynamic at this point, with more features being added.  Microsoft is really trying with this one to deliver everything we expect and demand.

While this isn't a "Zune phone" per se, it will very much echo that design and experience.

Windows Sensor and Location Platform: 'Orion'

We learned about this long time ago and haven't heard much since. But while we're dishing everything we've heard ...

"Orion" is a cloud-based assisted GPS system that is supposed to dramatically increase initial location-lock performance. This will guarantee rapid GPS performance across all future Seven devices, regardless of carrier support (currently, aGPS is dependent on individual carrier implementation).

The radio-interface layer (RIL) is being updated to support multiple-tower signal detection and trilateration (think Google's My Location service in Google Maps) and IP resolving. In addition, information garnered from WiFi connections will also be used for faster location detection (also similar to Google Maps).  All of this information is then passed on up via API to third-party software for ease of access and limited instruction sets.

Planned performance for an initial lock (cold start) is targeted at  less than 1 second and would find you within 300 meters. A hot or warm start is targeted at less than 0.25 seconds and would track you at less than 10 meters.

What actually happens with this location-information in terms of end-user services is currently not known — that is we do not know how the OS will utilize it for the the end-user experience. See the video from Channel 9 for some hints.

Interesting tidbit: Orion already is a part of Windows 7 (desktop OS), part of the Windows Sensor and Location Platform initiative. We think this is pretty good evidence of the merging of Windows desktop and Mobile platforms, or perhaps overlap is more apt.  

See "What is Orion Sensor device that shows up on Windows 7 PC?" and a video discussion for the big picture from Microsoft's API developers on Channel 9.

Hardware

What would this article be without some information regarding what Seven hardware may look like? Below are two devices that reportedly are launching this year and will be the model Seven phones. Again, none of this is official or has been announced by Microsoft or any of its partners. It might not happen, and you know how it goes with device dates; later is more likely than sooner. This is just what we've been told.

LG 'Apollo'

The first Seven device that is expected to launch is the LG "Apollo." While we cannot confirm the existence of this device with actual pictures (yet), we do have the supposed specifications.  If it is to be believed, then this is truly drool-worthy.

To us, it sounds like something in the same class as the just announced LG GW990.

Make no mistake about LG — it is a big player with Microsoft, having a team in Redmond working with it directly, releasing the first Snapdragon/pico projector/finger print scanner device in the U.S (eXpo) — LG is playing for keeps.

  • Launching: August/September 2010
  • CPU: Qualcomm QSD8650; 1.3GHz
  • CDMA + GSM (aka a World Phone)
  • EvDO + HSDPA
  • Device Size: 115 x 57.5 x 11.2 mm
  • Memory (RAM/ROM): 1GB/1GB
  • External Storage: MicroSD (up to 32GB)
  • Screen Size/Type: 3.8-inch capacitive AMOLED “Multitouch Supported”
  • Screen Resolution: WXGA 1280 x 720 px
  • Camera: 10-megapixel with flash and autofocus; HD 720p video@ 30fps
  • Video Support: Windows Media Video (WMV), MPEG-4 (MP4/M4V) H.264, DVR-MS4
  • Audio Support: Windows Media Audio (WMA), Advanced Audio Coding (AAC-LC), FairPlay DRM, MP3
  • Battery: Removable 1400 mAh
  • Talk Time: Up to 7.5 hours
  • Standby Time: 288 hours
  • Internet Use: 4.5 hours (3G), 6.5 hours (WiFi)
  • Video Playback: 10 hours
  • Audio Playback: 30 hours

We do question the Qualcomm QSD8650; 1.3GHz number, only because we know that chip can do 1GHz, but not 1.3GHz.  Qualcomm did recently announce a 1.3GHz Snapdragon, but it is the 8X50A, not QSD8650.

Ah, but maybe they forgot the "a"?  See, there is a QSD8650A that does run at 1.3GHz. 

However, there are other potential red flags: screen and camera resolution.

While we would seriously love to have 1280x720 on a 3.8-inch screen, that almost seems out of bounds (and largely unnecessary) for today's technology. We understand that there is 720P video recording out there today, but we have never heard of Samsung or anyone hitting WXGA resolutions on an AMOLED screen yet at that size.

Likewise, the 10MP camera also is on the high end. Of course anything is possible, and LG seems to be serious with competing against the likes of HTC, but even we are a bit skeptical. More likely is that we're looking at the maximum specs the processor will allow.

Devil's advocate: The Qualcomm QSD8650a does support WXGA resolution, and there is a 5-inch WXGA device on the market (see MyRacer Lisse T10 PMP).

A supposed hands-on report with the LG "Apollo" claims that this screen "blows away the HD2."  It is a silver, metallic slab device and is quite light.

The chipset is a CDMA/GSM hybrid and yes, reportedly Sprint and Verizon will be carrying it. Reportedly. We'll just have to see.

Is LG really sitting on such a monster of a device? One would expect that the first Windows Seven phone to be a stunner, and this sure seems to fit the bill. Time will tell.

HTC 'Obsession'

(Note: the above is just an unrelated rendering, not the "Obsession")

This is the device we have a better chance at seeing at Mobile World Congress, as the LG device is still going through some development pains. Think of the Obsession as a slightly smaller HD2.

And yes, HTC is working with Microsoft on Sense UI integration for Seven, we hear there is no tension between them on this feature.

  • Launching: October 2010
  • CPU: Qualcomm QSD8250; 1GHz
  • GSM HSDPA
  • Device Size: 112 x 56 x 11.7 mm
  • Memory (RAM/ROM): 512MB/512MB
  • Internal Storage: 4GB
  • External Storage: MicroSD (up to 32GB)
  • Screen Size/Type: 3.7-inch capacitive AMOLED “Multitouch Supported”
  • Camera: 5.0 Megapixel AF with flash; HD 720p video@ 25fps
  • Video Support: Windows Media Video (WMV), MPEG-4 (MP4/M4V) H.264, DVR-MS4
  • Audio Support: Windows Media Audio (WMA), Advanced Audio Coding (AAC-LC), FairPlay DRM, MP3 (.mp3)
  • Battery:  Removable 1230 mAh
  • Talk Time: Up to 10 hours
  • Standby Time: 240 hours
  • Internet Use: 6 hours (3G), 7.5 hours (WiFi)
  • Video Playback: 7 hours
  • Audio Playback: 24 hours

The "Obsession" reportedly looks like the Verizon Imagio, which if true makes it a good choice.

Look for none other than T-Mobile to be getting this one, followed by other GSM carriers later on.

Conclusion/Analysis

So what to make of the above? We think a lot of this sounds legit and makes sense. Then again, just because things make sense doesn't make them completely accurate. And, again, this is all highly unofficial and unannounced. Things likely will change somewhat.

Like you, we don't have the benefit of actually seeing any of this with our own eyes. Still, when you stand back and look at all the information it starts to come together.

For one, we have seen quite a few "leaked" shots of Seven in the past and while very formal and business looking, they are not full of eye-candy. Yet, we keep hearing about Project Pink, radical overhauls, media- and consumer-centric branches, etc.

Together, all of that doesn't add up, if you're expecting Seven to be just a single operating system. But split it into two branches, and it does make sense: Microsoft has one conservative version, built for professionals and that allows OEMs to customize. The other is the "Microsoft Experience" device, the Zune-phone if you will.

It also helps explain the seemingly contradictory release dates — some parts of the OS are more ready than others.

Still, with only a few weeks left until Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, we think we'll know soon enough how much of this is true or not as we (and others) are convinced that Microsoft will reveal something about Seven during that event.

Finally, we are expecting  more information to come forth in the coming weeks, so keep checking back for updates.

[Thanks 'Z' and Anonymous]

Daniel Rubino
Executive Editor

Daniel Rubino is the Executive Editor of Windows Central, head reviewer, podcast co-host, and analyst. He has been covering Microsoft here since 2007, back when this site was called WMExperts (and later Windows Phone Central). His interests include Windows, Microsoft Surface, laptops, next-gen computing, and arguing with people on the internet.

79 Comments
  • A great screen, great browsing experience, great media experience and (killer) integration with Media Center / Zune / Xbox will bring me back from iPhone I think. Along with a trustworthy app store (i.e. no Droid phishing apps in there).
  • I stumbled across this beauty of a deal while price checking the Droid Eris. This deal by Wirefly offers the phone for free to verizon customers.
  • man those are some sexy specs for a windows phone. cant wait to get my hand on it.
  • I really want a new phone, i've been holding back from getting a HD2 because I want to see how WM7 will turn out. Even if it's got a pro and standard version like it does now, and the pro/business one comes first without all the eyecandy, I might just go ahead and get that as waiting is probably going to kill me. Still, you'll probably be able to upgrade/flash it to the "media" version i'm sure. Just to wait and see how much of this is true.
  • your "hand" lol. just one? whers the other gonna be? down ur pants?
  • Honestly, the LG resolution would be completely pointless for 3,8 inch. Only because "HD" is the latest trend, does not mean everything needs to be "HD". The amounts of pixels on a screen has to be suited for the size and the viewing distance! For 3,8inch WVGA is enough.
  • The third screenshot from the top ("Annual Report.doc") shows the ribbon-UI MS Office - is that for real? Wow.
  • Well, as we've seen already, the Web version of the Office apps do infact have the ribbon UI just like the offline versions though not the whole thing I don't think? So if WM7 does let you work on stuff remotelly and or through office online etc, I don't see why you wouldn't get the whole UI. Specially if you think about using zooming to go in and out, then fitting things on the screen is fine and pretty doable.
  • It's just a concept rendering from a few years ago. The actual ribbon at that size is not a part of mobile Office "for real"
  • Link bait...This is getting worst than the Apple Tablet Unicorn rumors..
  • I wouldn't say that, all they did was take the info out there, real or not, and put it together in one single place. There's some info even I didn't pick up in there and i've been looking around for any WM7 news/tidbits I can find.
  • @Mytho "Link bait" is a bit harsh. We hedge numerous times during the article and don't present anything as fact. Instead we present *what we have heard* and let you, the reader, decide what to take away from the article. There is nothing wrong with presenting highly specific information relayed to us by people with access, so long as we convey our own skepticism and remain honest. Some of this information we have been sitting on for months, other aspects for weeks, till we were able to confirm or other news leaked out, which was too coincidental to ignore. (E.g. the LG info we had *before* that LG CES comment and before their tweet about a Sept release). We also have a decent track record of presenting this type of information and we generally don't run stories unless we have high confidence in the reality of some of the info presented...and some of this info we have corroborated with those who definitely know.
  • This is in no way getting worse than Apple tablet rumors. The idea of an Apple tablet has been kicked around the rumor mill for over a decade, and i'm effin' sick of hearing about it. Mal took a very smart approach in posting info which it does sound like he's been sitting on, especially if you listen to the podcast. If they really wanted to link bait, they would've separated this article into separate pieces and posted a piece a day.
  • i think i'll be one that lined up outside of the verizon store for that LG phone. i'm starting not to like HTC phones. I've had 3 and they were all flacky. my xv6800 has screws bouncing around inside of it. Whats crazy is my ipaq rx3715 still works great. just to bad it runs windows mobile 2003 second edition. if HP was to put out this windows mobile 7 media edition in a ipaq. That would be the ipod touch killer! I can't wait to see what they have to show next month.
  • i meant xv6900
  • With MS and HP working so close now it wouldn't surprise me if HP did show up with a surprise ipaq/smartphone running WM7. Hell, dell is in the market now, why not?
  • Thats all fine and good fro September of 2010. But where is my Sprint TP2 WinMo 6.5 rom/radio update with SenseUI? ;) Shouldn't it be sometime in Jan./Feb.?
  • I've been staying up to date on any WinMo7 (it will always be WM7 in my heart) news, but I have yet to hear anything about the multiple versions. Of all the good things about WM7 I've heard, this multiple versions things is just a shot in the foot. I'm surprised MS hasn't learned their lesson with their desktop OS's and Office versions; picking between different versions with some different features is a pain in the but for the normal consumer who just wants to go out and buy a phone.
  • That may be the case on the desktop where you can mix and match your hardware and so on, but I don't think having multiple SKU's hurts Win7 at all. The number sold at retail is 3, Home Premium, Pro and Ultimate. It's not that hard to pick one. Is your pc for home use? Then you pick Home Premium. Is it for work use? Pro. Do you want it all? Ultimate. It's pretty streight forward imo. Same for WM7 if they do split it into a full and lite version for business. If the media version has a single destinctive UI like it sounds, like how the iphone and all the android devices do. Then the average walk-in phone buyer will see that. The lite versions for business which will have probably other device maker UI's like sense etc will target business uers etc. I don't think it's a hard sell. The business phones with that version could just be sold online, while the stores/shops have the media phones only in them.
  • uhhgg. why LG though. all there products usually are so clunky and crap. i would much rather see those specs on the HTC HD2. that thing is everything i want in a phone. minus wm7 and super phone status as the lg rumored here.
  • I sort of disagree here: the LG eXpo is actually a really nice phone. It's not perfect, but it's damn solid. Snapdragon, finger print scanner,nice screen and excellent build quality--mark my words, LG is one to watch with WinMo. They're going to give HTC a run for their money.
  • I don't know about LG though. I went through about 8 LG feature phones that didn't work properly, thats not a good track record!
  • Wow, I've been through like 25 HTC phones and none of them ever work properly! :P
  • I had the HTC with droid from sprint. It didnt recieve texts, turns out is was an HTC issue, Sprint gave me he run around. Did my own research and HTC wouldn't even admit their phones didn't work. They told Srint it was their issue tho. My point is, I'm not apt to trust either one of these compnaies now!
  • Ha! My LG enV served me well for over 3 years and still has really good battery life and everything. It also had my favorite keyboard layout... until I met the HTC TP2, that is! I'll always think of it fondly though!
  • I actually would like to know about Sprint getting a decent windows mobiel phone, too! And not one with a slide out keyboard. These things already take up enough room in my pocket as it is.
  • George Costanza is going to be pissed when he hears about this.
  • Hey, guys, I've got some cheap Windows Mobile 6.5 phones to sell. They should be good for at least another 3 months ;)
  • AMEN! Exactly! WWSJD? Certainly not this! Not leave the vast majority of the few WM users left out there with no update path to WM7 other than shelling out for one of these brand new superphones. I just bought a TP2. Is that now to be left to wither on the vine like an XP desktop? Every iPhone thus far, regardless of age, got the same OS upgrade as any other. MS still doesn't get it, or just doesn't give a damn. WM6 needs a major upgrade to make it finger friendly and overall more functional, on par with other modern smartphones. WM7 was supposed to offer that path -- now this article forecloses that option to virtually every single current user. Trade up or you get chopped liver. Even Zunes, from the old ones to the new ones, have had equal rights to firmware upgrades as time has progressed. But for the phones, existing users are left out in the cold.
  • Ummm... isn't 6.6/6.5.3 or whatever that "finger friendly update" you're talkin about? 7 looks to be just like Vista when it came out, only more restritive. From the sounds of it, the software will be a bigger pain than the hardware. Nice roundup Mal!
  • @Cath S: what winmo phones do yuo have to sell? Any branded on cdma for sprint? thanks.
  • I am loving what I am hearing so far but I think where most phone manufactures are failing MSFT is failing to include storage on the device itself and always relying on consumers to purchase micro-SDcards.
  • Funny, I ranted about what WM7 needed a few days ago on the WinMo review by Rene on TiPB. I still reckon Microsoft needs to release a MS branded WinMo7/Xbox/Zune/Live phone and market the hell out of it but allow other manufacturers to use the same brands as well. Its interesting that MS are mandating a Microsoft-experience version of WinMo, just like the Google-experience on Android. I think this is the right approach. Microsoft (not HTC or anyone else) will need to spend bucketloads to promote the "MS-experience" version of WinMo7 though for it to be successful. The QSD8650A is the 45nm version of the QSD8650 (which is 65nm). It'll run at a max of 1.3 GHz but to be honest, I'd probably prefer it to be limited to 800 MHz to extend battery life and reduce heat. Kinda disappointed that neither the LG or HTC device are using the 45nm version of Snapdragon (QSD8250A and QSD8650A). Hopefully they're revise the specs and use the newer chip instead. My biggest problem with smartphones is battery life and the newer chips are definitely more efficient. 1280x720 is stupid for such a small screen PERIOD. For a 3.7" screen, 800x480 is more than enough. Is it possible that the rumour mill got it wrong and the device is able to play 1280x720 videos? Oh yeah, what is happening with non-touchscreen devices? Are they going to support it anymore? Also I doubt that ALL WinMo7 devices would require a minimum of 800x480. What about front-facing QWERTY devices? Maybe only "chassis 1" or Media Edition devices must meet these specs.
  • Correction: the LG is using the QSD8650a. It was a mis-print on the spec sheet. Since it's running at 1.3Ghz, that can only be the "a" version.
  • 2011 is too late for the "real" Media-centric WM7. With the pace they are being developed, Android already looks like it will definitely outpace WM7 by 2011 comes... with a wide margin. I'm still set on buying the first Tegra 2 Android in 2010... And by the way what role exactly will the Tegra 2 play in WM7's development??? I see that both flagship devices will have Qualcomm's Snapdragon in them. That's utterly disappointing, on both MS and NVIDIA's behalf. Having a 1280 x 720 px 3.8" screen in your pocket is crazy good, by all accounts. But I still wouldn't hold my breath for it till 2011... I'd rather get my WVGA Tegra 2 Android in 2010, and stream it to a bigger screen when at home or at a friend's place...
  • The first version of the Tegra 2 is targeted at Smartbooks and large MIDs. The slower (probably single-core) and lower power version for phones won't be available till the end of the year. I'm sure it'll be just as easy (if not easier) to get WM6/WM7 running on a Tegra 2 device compared to Android.
  • The Tegra 2 absence didn't slip by us either. Here is my guess: Qualcomm has a very good history/reputation both with WinMo devices and U.S. carriers (yes, even if there business practices are sketchy). They can churn out large volumes of unified chipsets (radios, CPU, GPU) at lower cost--the drivers are there, the history is there, the business relationship is there. Tegra 2 is new, untested, no history. They probably can't match Qualcomm's pricing and production volume (yet). So my guess is Qualcomm did what they could to undercut them at the bargaining table. Just a guess, not fact.
  • These Seven rumors are making me really excited about what's to come in 2010 for this platform.
  • Guys, really... The most popular phone was, and will be iPhone. And there are a lot of arguments. Apps one of the biggest. 120 000 and this number is growing up. I doubt that there exist some companies who doesn`t want to have their apps on iPhone and to be successful at that. Games, online news, journals, news papers... iPhone will be #1 for years. And if it lost some position - new version resume position
  • 2011 will be to late unless the iPhone 4g is a loser. Which I highly doubt it will be. The only thing Android is lacking is an improved media experience, once that gets figured out Winmo is dead..
  • Nah. Don't forget, iPhone is still only on 1 carrier out of 4 major ones in the U.S. I keep telling people: the smartphone world is just starting, not ending. It's not too late, especially for MS who has tons of money to burn. How much did they lose on XBox before it made a profit?
  • Hey WMExperts! Based on your knowledge about WM7, can you please comment on this: http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/01/18/everything-you-need-to-know-about... I really hope that this article is BS, especially the parts about 'no multitasking' and 'no customization'. Without miltitasking, file explorer and registry editor, WM is useless... :(
  • Interesting. I can't comment directly, but off the cuff it sounds like a too literal reading of what MS is trying to do. But I'll look into it ;-) The part that I question is the UI "looks like the ZuneHD"...I've been told explicitly that it does *not* look at all like the ZuneHD, let alone that description. Because of that, my gut tells me this is major BS. But I will *confirm* that it's BS, lol.
  • Here is one more version: http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2010/01/19/microsoft-analyst-se... Maybe the media version is in fact a locked down (no multitasking etc.) version for the project Pink phones? And the business version is Windows Mobile how we're used to it?
  • I thought about the video from WinMo devcamp, where Mel Sampat said he knew at least one article from someone who got it right. Based on your information and what I think is the truth about WM7, I did a quick search through everything I've read about it within the last few months. And I think my theory is true. In short, what I think is the truth about WM7 is explained in this article: http://lituuslimacon.blogspot.com/2009/10/project-pink-windows-mobile-7-...
  • it is exciting, isn't it! the article brings lots of interesting ideas brought together. as we go from 2010 to 2011 we'll see mobile devices differentiate increasingly based on services mobile phones connect to that are not part of the wireless carriers services. apple, google, nokia, msft, and rim are each going to offer increasingly integrated services rendering the carriers into network connectivity to the internet only. - apple has the lead on this via itunes.
    - google, with the nexus one gives google services users (email, picassa, google voice etc.) a better link to their online worlds than can come from an iphone or anyother phone.
    - msft will try to make access to anything from msft to be easier from a windows 7 phone - and when you think about it, there is a lot there. and as the line between phones and laptops blur, they will each plug into these extended, cloud-based services too, so this is bigger than just mobile phones. it all comes down to execution on the details. it's going to be exciting!
  • It reportedly also will allow multiple user access, meaning two or three people can all view and edit the same document dynamically, from different computers, including your Windows phone. You can even take a photo on your phone and embed it to the document directly. Great info
  • I call foul. The LG phone only mentions DRM support for FairPlay. Licensed by Apple. Don't believe it.
  • If I was about to buy a Windows Mobile handset, it wouldn't be from Motorola for sure. Telling as a Symbian UIQ owner which got killed by both Sony and Motorola management, that is not a company to buy anything "smart" from.
  • I would think that both versions will launch this year. The HTC one for the business version and the LG for the media edition. Personally if the LG version is as good as it sounds and comes with the media edition this year then that's the one I will go for.
  • WAO. I want this device. I really hope both this two device also have Tegra 2 to be more insane. I also hope Microsoft with vendor will lauch a Seven Starter Edition with a value gadget with HDSPA / EVDO (I really really hate a super hi end phone that can do all of you can imagine with just GPRS / EDGE).
  • Microsoft has been really good at hyping fluff and making announcements of vaporware. OSes aside this time around everyone around them has shipping products that are continually improving and taking dominant positions while their platform is losing ground. 2 year away on an idea that is shipping will be a has been when it finally ships.
  • This is great stuff Malatesta! It all comes down to Seven. It's what I've been waiting 2 years for while I make do with the iPhone (sorry WM6.x hasn't been doing it for me.) I'll come back to Windows Phone for this.
    Zune + Windows phone = FTW!
  • Bah..WM never more!!!!
  • I bet Dieter and Matt Miller are chuckling at all these rumours since they have most likely seen WinMo 7 during Mobius! Another thing MS has done right is shrouded WinMo 7 in secrecy. It really does get the Internets talking about it. Let's home MS can deliver. BTW, Gizmodo also has a few rumours about WinMo7:
    http://gizmodo.com/5450946/source-windows-mobile-7-handsets-coming-late-...
  • The HTC Obsession will, most likely, debut for AT&T before it does for T-Mobile. As for the LG Apollo, there is supposedly a pure HSDPA versi