Would you want Windows 11 on a Surface Duo?
A developer is working on getting Windows 11 onto the Surface Duo, but people question the benefit of running a PC operating system on a mobile device.
This week, independent developer Gustave Monce managed to get Windows 11 to run on both displays of a Surface Duo. The milestone is the latest step in Monce's quest to get Windows 11 to run on Microsoft's foldable mobile device. At the moment, the Duo still has quite a few limitations while running Windows 11, such as not supporting touch or LTE, but that's to be expected when running an unsupported operating system.
Monce's progress sparked a discussion online about the viability of the Surface Duo running on Windows 11. Some argue that Android is better suited for the device due to the apps that it can run and the fact that it's optimized for smaller screens. Others claim that the underlying OS of Microsoft's mobile device should be Windows, harkening back to the days of Windows Phone.
A key question is repeated several times in the comments section of our piece covering Monce's work, what would you actually gain by having Windows 11 on the Surface Duo? "No need for the replacement of Android with Windows. The Microsoft Launcher and all other Office 365 tools like OneDrive and Teams make it a good experience for productivity," said AlexysDroid. "The target audience doesn't care about the underlying OS. It just needs to be productive and get the job done."
Others have a dream of running the Surface Duo as a productivity powerhouse that can run Windows 11 in hand or expand onto multiple monitors.
Microsoft had a larger foldable device in the works called the Surface Neo that was set to run a version of Windows. That device is at minimum on pause but likely canceled. A large reason Microsoft moved away from the Neo is that Windows 11 is not optimized for such a device. In fact, some argue that the company should release the Surface Neo running Android.
If Microsoft views Windows 11 as unfit for a device like the Neo, it likely feels the same way about running the OS on the smaller Duo. But that's Microsoft. We want to know if you would like a Surface Duo running Windows 11. Let us know in the poll above and in the comments below.
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Actually I would further argue two, and not three, is the magic number the market seems to be able to support: we had Blackberry and WM, both of the companies behind them messed up and two new entries supplanted them: iOS and Android.
I loved WM, I had hopes for WP and I wished it had succeeded but, as it often happens, the best not necessarily wins.
Now, If you say Google will release a feature update that ACCIDENTALLY kill / sabotage that effort....
I will say YES. for 2 reasons
1) It was a feature enhancement update.
2) Accidently is the key word and will not be fixed due to shortage of resources.
I now stream my Laptop Studio to my Duo 2. The screen resolution, microphone, speakers, etc. all work fine, you can share storage and clipboard, and latency on the LAN is very low. However, it is in this experience that I find Windows to be less useful in a device like the Duo. Small screen touch devices are not suitable for full Windows because Windows productivity is highly dependent on the keyboard and mouse/touchpad. The Duo can of course be connected to keyboards and docking stations, but this almost cancels out its advantages for laptops. My point is that if Microsoft does intend to go ahead with the Duo 3 and make it a uniquely competitive product line like the Surface Pro, it does desperately need to gain a core competency in software to win a user base for the product. In terms of hardware, it already does: Surface pen, dual wide screens, and so on. But software-wise, what we've got so far is just a crippled version of Microsoft Launcher, and there are still many bugs. The Microsoft launcher on the Duo deserves more exclusive features than a normal Android phone, not less. So I hope Duo will continue to be Android based, but Microsoft should add features to the launcher it runs to take advantage of its hardware features. It could be something that allows a choice between Android and Windows at launch, or it could be something that allows Windows apps to run through a deeply customized Android OS (similar to the reverse of WSA, or call it ASW?). Or, just like we have Phone Link on Windows, optimize Remote Desktop for Duo's dual screens and become PC Link. The Duo's special hardware form factor would protect these exclusive features from being an easy gimmick for other phone manufacturers. Of course, as the comments above point out, as an Android OEM, Microsoft has to be concerned about Google, and dual-booting might not make Google happy. Relying on streaming is probably the simplest way around.
In fact, everything was lost by changing the management of Microsoft, and then changing the strategy by redirecting to Android applications, instead of using the code of applications written for iOS. Day by day I watch where the operating system is developing and day by day my desire to buy a MacBook increases, as heretical as it sounds. A few years ago, what dreams did I have ...
Just so you could kill his DRAMA, that's no fun.
Windows is already implementing android apps on Windows (via the amazon store) and I think it will work.
https://youtu.be/cyyH4hnBavc It's been a long road
Getting from there to here
It's been a long time
But my time is finally near https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Courier
2009 https://youtu.be/pFQWc79TYcU 2019 Panos Panay: Surface Duo/Neo are examples of "industry pushing technology and technology pushing possibilities" 2022 Windows 11 & Andromeda OS? on Surface Duo 1 (Gustave Monce's DuoWOA github)
Jan2022 Andromeda demo => https://youtu.be/MmfsHI_NSwc Given TechFreak1 comments: "ARM64EC and containerisation of Win32 apps as well as none containerised Win32 in the store now." I choose to believe the possibilities of the 2009 vision of Microsoft Courier are finally near. References:
 Feb2020 What is Windows Core OS (WCOS)? https://beebom.com/windows-core-os-wcos-explained
 Sep2020 The secret history of Windows on Surface Duo https://www.windowscentral.com/surface-duo-andromeda-windows-core-o