Ready to run out next month and pick up your copy of Call of Duty Ghosts alongside your Xbox One? Well, we have some news that you might want to know; Call of Duty Ghosts will not be running natively at full 1080p, but instead a lower 720p.
While this doesn’t sound like the end of the world, consumers should be made aware that the console’s Sony counterpart, PlayStation 4, will be running the game natively at 1080p. Microsoft and Infinity Ward have commented, stating that the Xbox One will upscale games to 1080p and that the unit does a “brilliant” job doing so.
With Microsoft’s Xbox One costing $100 more than the Sony PlayStation 4, and supposedly having a 10 year lifespan, the fact that the new console can’t handle launch titles in 1080p is a major concern. Call of Duty Ghosts isn’t the only title that will be suffering from a native low resolution; Crytek’s major launch title, Ryse, will also be running at 900p (yes, we know – random).
While not all games will be suffering down scaling on the console, it isn’t a good point for Xbox One fans – it is just another “Pro” for Sony PlayStation 4 fans to hold over the heads of Xbox gamers. We are entering a world of 4K gaming and consoles that are 3D compatible. Can we expect Ryse 2 from Crytek to run in 3D at 4K resolution, when it can’t even handle 2D 1080p?
Xbox One is going to continue its battle for console supremacy far past the November 22nd launch date. It is hard to deny that Sony has put full focus on the games, while Microsoft is trying to be a jack of all entertainment.
Questions is: will this affect your purchasing decision?
Source: XboxOneInCanada
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Call of Duty Ghosts to run at 720p; future looks bleak for Xbox One
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Problem solved.you xbox fanboys should start to call it by true name.Xbox 720ppp
XBOX 720p.
So much fail in this article implying no Xbox One games are 1080p. Indeed there are many, Forza is an obvious one. Just because developers are finding their feet with each console does not imply thats how the future looks. Launch games are rarely indicative of what can be done further down the line. Having watched numerous videos about both consoles you'd be hard pressed to tell them apart in 1080 native or upscaled or 900p. Infact many videos so far the Xbox looked better so go figure. It doesnt matter now, but it might later on...
A lot of PS4 games will not be 1080p. COD is a port. Ports performance varys wildly. It wasn't designed for Xbox One and it doesnt take advantage of Xbox One's hardware. PS4's hardware is more compatible with COD because it is more similar to the previous gen hardware that COD was made for.
Wait until the consoles launch and compare all titles graphics quality.
The fact is, some people are really upset that they cannot afford an xbox and want to make excuses for themselves as to why they are getting the PS4. So they will select a particular game and a particular benchmark of quality (graphics, and in particula graphics resolution) and try to frame the conversation to suit their argument.
The more attention they can pull towards one game, COD, and one thing, graphics, and one topic within that thing, resolution, the less people talk about EVERYTHING ELSE that xbox does amazingly well.
Don't let haters frame the conversation.
Considering what Sony published today regarding the limitations of the PS4, I wonder if the author of this hack piece will write a similar doom and gloom article on them?
So if people are saying that the Xbox 1 looks better when running in lower resolution, imagine what it will look like when the developers get used to it and can run the Xbox 1 at native 1080p 60fps as well :) this time next year every top game coming out will probably run in native1080p 60fps on both consoles
This article has poor facts. Google it and find accurate articles. They are missing so much information on this article.
Xbox one up scales to 4k. Game developers are choosing there settings they like because some certain resolution works better then others. So 720p probably loads all pixels faster then 1080p Xbox one has nothing to do with the settings. Its all up to the developers.
The idiots creating the titles for these articles need a good kicking imo bleak future are you serious really console pre ordered are all very high both console are about equal in power according to actual games devs. Lets wait and see shall we...
Picking up my PS4 on launch day, xbone in 3 years if good bundles are out.
bleak? cause of a launch game thats coming out on all consoles new and old? come on man.
What a stupid comment about 4k games. NO games will be native 4k for X1 or PS4. The consoles may be able to upscale to that or output that, but no games will be native 4k. 4k resolution has 4x the pixels of 1080p and 9x the pixels of 720p. Not to mention the fact that 99.99% of people don't have 4k TVs, and the ones that do probably wouldn't be large enough to tell the difference.
Um neither system can output games at 4K resolution. Its been confirmed that the PS4 can output 4K content. I don't know about the XBone, but it wouldn't surprise me. However they specifically said the PS4 can't do 4K games. Also there are fewer 4K TV's out there now than 1080p TV when the 360 was new.
The resolution of games on the consoles is of little consequence to me since I do PC gaming ONLY--I can consistently get better performance, better video and better sound than on any console. Plus, I HATE the stupid console controllers. BUT, this does make me wonder if the video performance on the Xbox One could also suffer in the aspects of the device that I DO want to buy the unit for. If it's going to be under-powered for handling ultra HD video that's coming down the road, then, I might decide to hold off---even though the media and home control aspects really have my attention.
It will not affect my purchase of an XB1. Sony playstation always looks nice on the outside with specs, etc, but fails to deliver anything more than just that. Specs without the backend infrastructure to support the other entertainment aspects involved. Xbox and PS4 use the SAME PROCESSOR, so I don't see this being a long term problem, just need to optimize the software to keep up with the hardware and still deliver a butter smooth experience... Just like how my HTC Trophy still outperforms most quad core android phones. Specs don't make a good experience.
Already cancelled my preorder.
This is a bummer. Might just retract my X1 reserve.
The PS4 ain't all that either. No support for external flash drives for instance is also a "pro" for Xbox One fans ;)
Who hired this negative nancy writer for WPC? This used to be a place where we got news about windows phones and tablets.... now this new guy just posts link bait troll articles that bash microsoft.... find another please..
I saw worse ports for PS3, Bayonetta and SC: Double Agent come to mind, not just resolution, but textures suffered. How come everyone blamed lazy devs then? I know the PS4 is more powerful, but looking at BF4, the disparity is not as big. IW doesn't have the best track record either. Jusayin
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Doing some research on my own I'm forming some opinions that may or may not be shared by you all. I really like this website and most of the commenters, so I'm going to share.
OpenGL vs DirectX11.1 - It's worth talking about. Add on top of that the “AMD Mantle” discussion. I'm seeing a lot of people saying don’t compare racing games, but it should also be noted how close the Forza team is to Microsoft and that they ONLY had to make the game for one system.
Windows 8 runs battlefield better than Windows 7. Xbox is running a Windows 8 Kernel with Hyper-V. Windows is EXTREMELY memory efficient. (I open the same adobe and other programs as another developer on MacOS... he runs out of memory and complains a lot, Mac Book Pro, Memory Maxed out. Never had an issue while running half the memory as him)
While Microsoft is experienced at making Extremely efficient Gaming OSes, they will need some time to acclimate to the APU with shared memory pool, vs the GPU / CPU with their own memory pools.. The Software Development kit will get better and better. John Carmack has said that Microsoft makes a great development environment.
The GPU difference. GPU matters a ton. This part worries me. Physics can be off-loaded to CPU, and the shared memory pool will prove incredible, but both systems have that. I’m not worried that the RAM is faster on PS4, loading textures into memory might be a little faster, which is great for load times, but I want fast frame rates no matter what… and I want it sharp. That means I lose anti-aliasing and shadows. :( The BF4 demo when he’s driving by all the phone lines looks horrible on X1, it just does. Maybe they were rushed, maybe they’ll patch it… blah blah.. who knows.
“Xbox One SoC APU’s GPU could be compared to the AMD Radeon HD7770 and the PlayStation 4 is said to be somewhere between the HD7850 and HD7870"
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Entertainment. Sorry guys, adding the entertainment apps doesn’t make the system less powerful. My gaming rig is dual monitor with photoshop open at the same time as tomb raider, it doesn’t get affected like you might think. If I’m not interacting with other programs, they can be running without hurting a game I have open at the same time. My system has 12GB of RAM, never uses more than 8GB. If anyone can pull off great multitasking, it’s Microsoft. Use an android phone then windows phone, see what I mean? IF X1’s entertainment is as big of a hit as M$ hopes… then Sony might have a hard time competing with Microsoft’s experience making and refining windows all these years.
I’m that nerd with a full Win8 machine in his living room for all the content that is hard to get to without it. I’m hoping X1 will make me not need it. We’ll see.
I am actually really worried. The ps4 is a $100 less and can play cod at 1080p. It feels like you are paying more for less. I really hope next e3 Microsoft comes out with better hardware.
Things could get really messy after some years when games require more powerful hardware to run at 1080p.
You mean software? The hardware is well and truly in its final stages and its no lie that the PS4 has a better graphics card. All Microsoft can do here on is better the performance of its own card by releasing software patches.
An interesting arrival.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-resolutiongate-the-fallout
Stop arguing over this, They're both upgrades from current gen. Get the system with the games that interest you. Whether one looks better than the other doesn't matter. PC for example, everyone has different GPUs. Each PC gamer has different graphics. It's still the same game! Exclusives are what you want to look at. For me, PS4 has what I want so I'll invest in that.
Wow, this is bad... it's 2013 and no fullHD resolutions?! Anyway, i've already decided: PC. At least you can choose your resolution. :/
Absolutely terrible headline. It's hard to believe that a professional(?) writer would write that with no empirical evidence at hand.
Ps4: better performance, PS+, lower price. Every sane person should buy Ps4.
Poor Xboxone.
if the X1 was the same price as the PS4 it wouldnt be an issue for me. But its $100 more and with it doing 720 wheres the incentive to get this? for $500 I dont want my game upscaled to 1080.
The PS4 can't even play music CD's, can't play mp3's, doesn't support DLNA.... And these are launch games. Microsoft did last minute upgrades to hardware and drivers and tools weren't as ready. Devs simply didn't have the chance to optimize for XB1 like they did for PS4. That is why exclusives like Forza 5 and Ryse look so amazing. Head and shoulders above multiplats.
Seems odd that it runs at 720p since the xbone and ps4 have similar gpu's.
Lets hope its just a porting issue and not a console issue. With 4k tvs coming a 720p native res console is going to get dated quick.
I'm getting both consoles so no biggy but hope Microsoft hasn't drop the ball on this gen.
The future is bleak? Really? wow, this coming from a Windows site. Dissapointing that a click-bate headline like this made it through the editorial staff of WPCentral. It's one game. and seeing the side by side, the X1 looked better to my eyes. Plus I read other sites stating that the PS4 version will be running at 900P, (not 1080P) the same as Ryse. Not so random. Being a WP site, the author of this site, more than any other site, should understand that specs dont tell the whole story of a product. Its how its optimized. There is plenty of power in the xb1. To call the future bleak based on one game is absolutely ridiculous and frankly unprofessional. If MS came out and said that no games would run in 1080p, then yes, this headline might make sense. but again, its one game released in the beginning stages of the next gen era. Unreal and dissapointing article from this site.
i stand corrected... 900P was for Battlefield 4. but my arguement remains the same. the nextgen era has just begun and he's basing his headline on one game and its native resolution (upscaled to 1080p).
"~~the fact that the new console can’t handle launch titles in 1080p is a major concern."
Actually, the fact that this is a NEW console makes this a NON-ISSUE. ITS a LAUNCH title on a NEW system. Make an arguement 6 months from now. Make an arguement when both systems are actually released with real games released and real games compared side by side. Even on the current sidebyside, both games looked equally impressive and some even say the xb1 looked sharper with more detail. Its all about the optimizations and compromises and there are compromises on both sides.
I haven't had time to read all the comments.... But, even though this is a more or less Microsoft oriented web site, I must say the title of this article is a bit over dramatic. It ignores alot of things, like Microsoft doing last minute upgrades and drivers were late to be updated etc... Devs had to cut corners to meet launch because of these issues. It's a fact. Look at Ryse, it's arguably the best looking game of any next Gen system. Some people argue that BF4 actually looks better on XB1. And that's with early issues and all. This system is going to be great. Launch games hiccups are hardly an indication of long term "bleakness".
I watched a video of BF4 single player game play from Xbox one today and it looked sick. Next Gen graphics are pretty amazing already imo. Ps4 and Xb1 will barely be any different In how games look, but they will however be very different in terms of software, online experience, and multimedia abilities. XB1 looks to dominate there.
HAHAHAH, I laughed at this flame war so hard. Please stop this, we are all grown-ups, or at least I believe so. Fact is, the PS4 is more powerful, so it's no doubt that games run better on PS4.
PS: And the EYE camera of the PS4 is more advanced (and more expensive) than the Kinect. It is sold at $60, while a similar one we have for experiment costs whooping $2000.
PPS: The reason why some games were ported poorly to PS3 before, because the SDK was tricky. Sony learned their lesson with the PS4.
Wow... Stunned
Sorry Sony wins again.
Also, isn't this more on the devs than on MS. 1080p titles will be available. Then again, people will complain about MS any chance they get. :P
If you're sitting 2ft from the TV you 'might' notice. The average player at the average distance of a few feet (couple of meters) won't be able to tell. It's being made into a bigger issue than it really is.
Overall value trumps a few extra lines of resolution any day of the week.
I'm still getting an XONE at launch. I can't wait!! Not even, I can't wait for this time next year, Halo 5!
No.. It won't affect my decision to purchase the Xbox One!!
Your report sounds mis-leading as the hardware supports 4k for the future. It is up to devs to deliver games over time which they seem committed to doing for Xbox. I'm buying the Xbox mostly because I like the interface, watch Netflix, listen to Xbox music, and stream content from my computer. I also like the voice control.
Who cares? Neither 360 nor PS3 rendered many games at native 1080p, either. Hell, many didn't even hit 720p native. And yet, both consoles produced tons of gorgeous games.
Native rendering resolution is *irrelevant *.
That said, I wouldn't buy either system at launch anyway.
This is the first article I read on this site that is very, very weak with the facts and details pertaining to the news being reported.
Let me explain and hopefully some of you read this.
THIS IS NOT LIMITATION DUE TO XBOX. This is just the developers, call it lazy or w.e its the developers, period. Another thing misleading in the article, Battlefield 4 for PS4 will run at 900p only COD will be native 1080p at launch.
To say "and supposedly having a 10 year lifespan, the fact that the new console can’t handle launch titles in 1080p is a major concern" the console can definitely handle it, it is THE DEVELOPERS.
Heres the tweet from Mark Rubin of CoD franchise "but wanted to confirm that for Xbox One we’re 1080p upscaled from 720p. And, we’re native 1080p on PS4. We optimized each console to hit 60 FPS and the game looks great on both"
Now on to battlefield 4, this is from Eurogamer report "[T]he actual results on PS4 lack the corresponding level of crystal clarity we’d expect of such a significant resolution boost,” Thomas Morgan of Digital Foundry writes. “This should surely be a home run for Sony’s console, but what is likely to be a software-based upscale to 1080p delivers less-than-stellar returns, and for better or worse leaves the Xbox One with an often crisper looking, albeit much more aliased image"
So no this is NOT another 'pro' for PS4 fans at all lol and same thing with Ryse, it is because of the DEVELOPERS that they have decided to code at 900p.
I really would have expected much better on this report from windows phone central, I read this on another site last night and that's where I got all my info. I ain't getting none of the new consoles but I just had to point out the truth so misleading information doesn't get spread.
We are seeing the birth of anti-marketing. Samsung was caught paying journalist to bad mouth competitors. No doubt all this hoopla about XO is coming from Sony. I know ppl hate MS but this is unreal.
There was NO WHERE NEAR this negativity when Halo 3 ran at 540P and other games. Journalism is dead
No
Its still a higher resolution than the Xbox 360, which ran at 600p I believe
Multiplayer online gaming would be better on Xbox One with 300,000 Azure servers.
Just to bring it back to what thus site us supposed to be about. Samsung Galaxy S4 high spec, Nokia 925 lower spec. Which would you rather use?
Lol yet the PS4 can't use media servers via DLNA, play MP3's or Audio CDs. What's is this, 1986?
90% of the average consumer cannot tell the difference. Plus, there is more to gaming graphics than just resolution.
This is more akin to the classic NVIDIA vs AMD battle. Each one will excel at certain games and lag in others. For all we know they made this game for the PS4 and converted to the Xbox One. If a publisher would do it the other way around, it might have the opposite effect.
It's a total non-issue and I highly doubt it's a limitation of the XBone
Not a limitation, not next gen either! I want something different...
Oh no here we go.. Xb1 sucks .jeez. Really?
I've got a pile of unplayed games for my 360 to keep me going well into the launch window. Were the Xbox One backwards compatible with the 360 I'd buy one as I did nearly eight years ago with my beloved console (still on the launch model, still no RROD!)
Neither Sony's nor Microsoft's consoles have a killer title to make me buy it. Xbox had Halo, 360 didn't have a single stand out (other than Geometry Wars) but had an otherwise fantastic launch lineup. Tbh, the console to be playing this Xmas if you're truly a gamer seems to be the Wii U and that is no powerhouse of technology.
This is the kind of article title I expect from Engadget or The Verge. NOT WPCentral.
Very, very surprising.. Glad i decided to go with ps4 first
I can buy a Roku for $100 and it will offer much of the entertainment the Xbox One will deliver besides the gaming. I really had high hopes for the Xbox one, but I am leaning towards the PS4. Why pay more for less when I can get more for less with the PS4.
Read this piece on Ars
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/10/op-ed-why-im-not-too-worked-up-abo...
The resolution does not matter unless like many digitial photographers, your pixel peeking and then your nose better be up by the screen.
I'm sure it was just a matter of IW not having time to optimize the game to run at 1080p/60fps. They probably had to draw a line in the sand 6-8 months ago (based on what MS and Sony had given them at that time) for both consoles and stick to that.
at the xbox E3 show didnt COD dev bang on about the game being 1080p 60fps
When you just look at the words its easy to make judgments but until you see the real world results...I think I can understand how Microsoft is operating their stuff so I'm not dissuaded and look forward to seeing the experience first hand!
Lets not also forget that it's not exclusive to the next ten consoles so of course they may not get 100% pure glass...but that don't matter, is the game play and everything else sound?
thar's another ression why: PC > consoles
That's right, they're bigger, need more power and more components! Lol, jk =P
XB1. PS4 seems to be a duct taped together PS 3.5. No CD, DLNA or Media streaming. No cloud services or gamer policing and much more. Sony rushed to get the PS4 out and it shows. Also Sony is struggling financially and the PS4 owners need to be concerned.
XB1 will play 1080p games. I'm not worried. The number of Sony PS4 whiners appear more worked up at this than anyone. They're the worst.
I pre-order the ONE. If I don't like I will return it.
I don't understand all this freaking out because of one game. The PS4 PORT GOES UP TO 900p. So BOTH next-gen ports will have their resolutions upscaled to 1080p, so the PS4 is not doing real 1080p either. Why ain't anyone also bitching about the PS4?
"~~With Microsoft’s Xbox One costing $100 more than the Sony PlayStation 4, and supposedly having a 10 year lifespan, the fact that the new console can’t handle launch titles in 1080p is a major concern"
Exaclty.
I'm shocked abouit this. I was hoping the X1 would entice me into buying my first console in a while but I defintely wont be rushing in to to buy either of the next gens until I see how the chips fall.
With 4K TVs becoming popular long before the ten year lifecycle for these consoles is up I can't figure out why they would launch such hampered devices. I guess I will just stick with my more performant and cheaper gaming PC.
All i say is Titanfall.
Compare perfect dark on 360 to crysis 3... Its just early releases on a game that has been designed on current/next gen... Forza5 is pure mextgen.. What ever console you get you will enjoy. I have xb1 and f5, cod, bf4 and ass4 ordered.. Will pick up a ps4 at a later date when team ico game comes out
4k gaming will not be a thing on this next generation of consoles. 4k movie file sizes will be over 100GB. Games? HUNDREDS of gigabytes. Does anybody honestly expect this to happen? Not to mention the fact that neither the XBOX One nor the PS4 will be able to handle running titles rated for 4k at high enough FPS.
My own PC with better specs than either console struggles running 2560x1600 with frames higher than 30. The hardware is simply not there yet.
Oh, and before someone says something about streaming, you had better be using Google Fibre, otherwise you're SoL.
3D 4k was never an option either.
TL;DR: Microsoft probably meant the XBOX One will support Solitaire in 4k.
Killer Instinct!!!!
If you are a non-expert in computer graphics, and you're not looking at the two side-by-side, I seriously doubt you'd notice any difference.
The problems with flexing graphics muscles on next-gen consoles this time around are that (1) we're well into the point of diminishing returns now, where even an Xbox One with 8x the power of the 360 doesn't look miles ahead of the current gen COD, and (2) it's no longer delivering not-before-seen graphics quality, since the next-gen consoles are equivalent to mid-range PC rigs.
Personally I find XB1's emphasis on new UX paradigms and home media integration to be much more appealing. Last gen I went with the PS3 on a similar promise, with the integrated blu-ray drive and DNLA support, and am happy I did.
graphics don't sell games or consoles, experience does, and the xbox one can deliver that in bucket loads. besides if you're too far away from your tv you can't tell the difference between 1080p and 720p... i can't and i'm 5ft from my 47" tv...
As for the "get a PC" comments... Ok, point taken, yes PC is the best I agree, but I am a console gamer. I don't like playing games on a PC just like you wont use a console. Each to their own. No doubt PC rules and rules big time..but I use a console..sorry
Honestly, if you want to base your purchasing decisions on counting pixels, have at it. I'm going to buy the games I love, on the console I love. All the PS4 fans can lord this over me if they want and I couldn't care less. I'm buying the system with the the biggest conveniences, dedicated servers for any game that wants it, etc. Sitting 10+ feet away you won't notice a difference between a million more pixels, unless you have a fairly large TV. Developers have yet to fully understand the hardware and how to optimize, so I don't see this as a long-term problem anyway.
I'm sticking with Xbox One. Especially after seeing Halo 4 being played through the cloud on a phone. MS have been saying the power of the cloud can make your Xbox One 4x more powerful. Being in its infancy at the moment though they will be struggling to show the full power of it. I think 5 years down the line this cloud will start becoming more and more relevant to the performance of the Xbox One. Especially when it comes to multiplayer games.
When you look at these comparison video's too, it's pretty clear on the BF4 one that Xbox has more detailed textures. Why is that? Especially when PS4 has the RAM better equipped to deal with textures.
I think all these differences just boil down to PS4 being easier to develop for off the bat with maybe more finalised drivers.
This time next year will be the time to really compare the consoles on graphical prowess. All we know now is that Xbox easily outweighs the PS4 in functionality and scope. If all you want is graphics then PC is the real answer. They're already able to run graphics hungry games at 2160p 120FPS.
Its not good at this stage as the "war" is always hottest before both arrive. Question is, is this a barrier forever? Will no game ever hit 1080p on XB1? Or, like most cycles, as time progresses so does the developers skill. Looking at xbox 360 v Xbox 1 games like AC IV they look identical. That's never right, I feel for about 3 yes, we'll see sub par games visually until this gen ends... However short answer "still getting XB1?" "YES"
It's a launch title.. These things are to be expected.. Launch titles are typically lackluster because developers haven't totally learned how to get the most from the hardware and the games are typically rushed to make the launch deadline.. The problem for the Xbox One is compounded because it is slightly more difficult to develop for than the PS4, so since the PS4 is easier to develop for, the PS4 provided better results when those previously mentioned constraints are factored in.. Look back at the multiplatform games for the PS3 versus the Xbox 360.. The PS3 was way more difficult to develop for and as a result, multiplatform games tended to look and play better on 360.. Over time, as developers figured out the PS3 architecture, the games eventually started to look the same on both platforms.. And the PS3 was DIFFICULT to develop for.. The Xbox One isn't "difficult" to develop for, the PS4 is just easier to develop for at the moment.. So it won't take very long for these problems to be resolved.. Xbox One games should look basically even with PS4 offerings before long as developers learn to get more from the system... As a matter of fact, both consoles will have increasingly better performing games in the coming months and years.. It's just that the Xbox One will still have the arguably better online gaming infrastructure, UI dashboard, and multimedia offerings when compared to the PS4 which is why I personally prefer Microsoft's console.
Don't forget that Microsoft overclock the Xbox gpu. Those games are developed without this.. I preorder a Xbox, if it does work well I will return
If this such a big deal for you guys to warrant 3 paragraph comments, maybe you should save yourself $500+ on the X1 and just get a PC and a $100 mid range video card and join us in the 21st century.
Microsoft cant handle one business of Xbox SkyDrive Office and ppl want Nokia to be sold to Microsoft to send one more legend to garbage like Skype...
Sayyy whaaaaatttt?
The beginning of the 360s life cycle it also didn't run at 1080p until a later update. For me this is not an issue. It will be resolved. I refuse to by a PS4 no matter how much smoke Sony blows up my ass.
This isn't a 360 though, its supposed to be a next gen console. Poor call from Microsoft, this should be 1080p out the box.
Once you start playing the game, and you start focusing on your target, moving around and such, you will hardly see the difference between the two.
Wow.. I think I'm going to just buy a next gen console, play games, and have fun.
You know how we still all wax lyrical about NBA Street: Homecourt on 360, how good it looks? You know, because it was one of the only 1080p games? NBA Street. I think it was back in 2006 ish. No? Yeah that's what I thought. No-one even remembers that game, let alone bangs on about the fidelity of it's graphics. What the fuck does it matter? If resolution was the be-all and end-all of gaming then PC gaming would've wiped consoles of the map by now.
So it makes me angry that people who claim to be gamers find this to be a critical concern. It is a misplaced priority that is indicative of the mentality of the casual gamer, a simplistic and inexperienced view of what makes games consoles great, and one of the reasons why I chose the Xbox brand over Playstation as my sole interest after many years of loving both. A Sony fanboy would happily stare at white noise for hours if you told them it was 1080p. As anyone who really knows about games knows, there are pros and cons to each console, such as fundamental features and capabilities and surely, most importantly; the exclusive games available for each, that far outweight this triflingly noobish matter.
This is nothing but a little flag for those (usually) casual gamers we call Sony fanboys to pathetically wave while I'm playing Titanfall, streaming my music and watching the game all at once on my One. I couldn't care less.
Little disappointed, these tiny things can annoy many customers.
X1 is still mine, but MS needs to go all out in all sides of entertainment.
They should have just made it in 480p... Looks just as good as 720p right?...WRONG!!!!
I am not a gamer, but this seems like a non issue to me. Also, could it be that the code is not yet optimized to run on the Xbox One, while it is on the PS4? Maybe a future software update will solve the issue?
I guess this is a major topic for some. A lot of the titles were upconverted to 1080p did they still look good? Yes, sure people would like that bragging factor because fanboys will be fanboys. If the game is good I will enjoy it no matter of resolution or graphics. This is CoD though and that is a different argument in itself. Do 1080p games get me to buy a console? No, Fresh ideas and gameplay.
Well I doubt people will get this far down in the comments to read this... But Im just gonna say 2 thing and I am gonna keep it very Generic so that I do not break any NDA's...
1. Unless Sony has something MAJOR that they have not told the public about (or their developers for that matter), then the XB1 will be blowing it out of the water in user experience... And I do not just mean in terms of TV functionality, and multitasking... I mean in games...
Personally I really hope that Sony does have something up their sleves, as it would be great for competition. But if so they are not telling their Devs...
2. My Dev XB1 has no trouble outputing 1080p even without optimized code (I could not find anything about talking about resolution in the Microsoft NDA, and if so the COD people broke the NDA FIRST!!!) I cant speak for the PS4, they didnt give me a Dev unit...
If you are legit this actually made me feel a whole lot better.
100% legit... If i could tell you more without getting my pants sued off I would. What microsoft has done is pure INNOVATION.
Again I am not a PS4 hater, but what Microsoft has done is pure gold. Microsoft may screw things up from time to time, but this is not one of those times.
This is definitely something that makes me feel better as well. I was never not going to cancel or change my pre order from and XBOX ONE just nice to hear this. Especially with all the hate its getting.
That is the main reason I posted it, I dont want people to feel like a maginally better CPU and GPU will make any difference in the long run (It didnt last Gen)... I was one of the few Indy Dev's to get invited to thier conference on 10/25/13 (last Friday)...
There is so much more I would like to say... And to be honest I dont really understand Microsoft letting Sony drag their name through the mud this close to the launch date, but they must have their reasons...
Right i have also wondered why microsoft is just taking it! Whatever thier reasons i guess we will have to wait and see. Once again thanks for the information. Really appreciate it.
You are more than welcome!
Wow! Thanks for the input!
Getting Ps4.don't wanna put ugly brick as xbox under my smart tv.BTW my tv can do everything what xbox do
Thanks for the Info!
You have to understand that you can say this all you want however you're a "French Model" to me. I hope what you're saying is true, I honestly do. I hardly want to waste my money on something that will be obsolete in a few years time.
I totally understand what you are saying, and I do not expect blind accpetence to what Im saying... Just wait until after launch before buying a console and you will see what I mean...
EDIT: Oh ya, btw Im not a French Model ;)
Given that you have a Xbox Dev kit...I didn't think you were! LMAO.
Thanks for the info...even a little uplifting news for all things Xbox is nice to hear. I can't help but shake the feeling Sony is paying forum posters to muckrake the hell of MS and Xbox. There is so much negativity surrounding the whole project.
I dont know anything about Sony doing what you proposed. But I totally agree that I dont understand the ultra negativity surrounding the XB1. Hardware for both is gonna be great, but IMHO Microsoft has proved they know what they are doing with Xbox Live over the last generation, where as Sony has struggled very hard to say even remotely relevant with PSN.
As a developer I know where my resources are going first, and then provided that PS4 can accomodate my game's design I will probably eventually port it over...
Oh, I would have no evidence to support my comment. I have honestly never seen such a negative vibe surrounding something something as big as this.
I was an Xbox Live beta tester years ago, I think I was one of the first 1000 or something like that. I remember feeling how cool it was to play Re-Volt against 8 other people! Using a headset...playing Payton Manning football...was an incrdible leap to the future for me. Over the years Xbox Live has always advanced, also shown growth, and IMHO always given the proper "bang for your buck" regardless of a paywall or not.
I wish you luck on your game! Thanks for the positive posts!
I personally get a trip on the posts of Who cares and I can't see the difference anyway.... Sure, take your money and not get everything you expect. It's almost like buying a High end sports car and getting a little baseline v6 in it, sure it will go and have a little pep but, not exactly what you paid top dollar for.
For real, This is the NEXT GEN console, the MOST EXPENSIVE Next gen console, THAT IS NOT EVEN RELEASED YET, Not only should you want the best graphics possable, YOU SHOULD EXPECT IT.
You are the only going to pay $500+ tax for your console ($531 for me), then another $60 for the game, never mind all the other extras you addon to it. You should expect the best gaming experiance available RIGHT NOW, 1080p IS that.
This should of been adressed before the lauch titles were even posted. Microsoft MUST of knew about this a while ago, Why did they not say anything and let the publisher say it a few weeks before the console release ????
Microsoft BETTER make a public statement on this and give everyone the reason for one of the top selling AAA games over the year, on the newest Next gen console is only a 720p game...
There is a HUGE outrage about this all over the net. As I agree 6 months from now, no one will care (once all games at 1080p or higher) but, as of now, right before everyone is spending their money, they should adress this NOW.
Then you know very little. Neither next gen console is powerful compared to pc. So why buy a console ever? Your argument is nonsense.
you are a moron. Fine, let MS take all your money and not give you want you expected and actually deserve.
What is the connection between this article and the windows phone???
Isn't this the same issue the 360 faced with Halo? Many years later, we see how that "disadvantage" played out
Yeah, but this is launch. Two systems are launching at the same time. One is more expensive and does less. It's crazy stupid on MS.
I mean this is supposed to be next gen and we are still upscaling to 1080P? Seriously. This is bad, bad, bad. Like X1 needed anymore bad news.
Im getting ps4
Just my 2 cents - comparing this to launch titles from previous gen is stupid, because this time it's not new hw architecture. Both PS4 and X1 are essentially PCs and very similar at that. I would think them nearly identical in their capabilities so would not take this as any indication of superiority of one over the other.
"With Microsoft’s Xbox One costing $100 more than the Sony PlayStation 4, and supposedly having a 10 year lifespan, the fact that the new console can’t handle launch titles in 1080p is a major concern."
I agree with this statement...its not a matter of X1 upscaled looking better than Ps4 version, its the fact that the X1 couldnt run at 60 FPS in 1080p...for a LAUNCH title is not a good sign. Thankfully im waiting a year or so before deciding whether ill get an X1 or not, since ill definitely not get a PS4. I have both a 360 and Ps3, will not be doing that agagin next gen...big waste of money. My ps3 is a bluray player that was used to enjoy Last of Us and GoW3...thats it.
No where does it say the One CAN'T do it. It just says that the game is in 720
I've become alarmingly addicted to all of the Next Gen console stuff.
I have also admittedly been a staunch Xbox One supporter. Sony hasn't even appeared on my radar. Up, until recently. I understand that consoles take some "getting used to" to produce good results. However, out of the gate the PS4 is out performing it. Plain and simple. Numbers don't lie.
While resolutions may not matter to some, it does matter to a lot of people. As someone posted above, don't get a next-gen console if resolution is the end all be all for you. Get a PC. The PC I would want would cost me more money than I have at the moment. Hell, the Xbox One is going to cost me more money than I have. $500 is not something that I just have falling out my pockets and my wife and I do very well for ourselves.
I think the main reason for the discourse is, why? When you attach a price that is $100 more than your competion to something that is inferior, (even if it has a camera) it begs the question as to why? I personally don't understand it. All the hyperbole from PR "Talking-Heads" won't be able to make it clear for me either.
I get that it is a set-top media box, and I am all in for that. The PS4 will be releasing with severly gimped media functions. Which begs the question as to why is Sony's box $400? It is also using old and out of date hardware. Is it the memory? No. Sony can buy enough to drive the prices down to levels we will never see if we were to purchase it.
As I watch all of this unfold on the internet like some "Twisted Nerd Soap-Opera" I can't help but think if it is all really worth it? Will this be the last generation of consoles? Why would MS faulter so badly on design? Why is Sony releasing such a gimped product? It isn't like gamers are quiet. We're a fairly vocal group, that has a ton of disposable income. Didn't these companies listen to any of us?
I will be getting a Xbox One as I've already invested a ton into the Windows eco-system. I just don't know anymore if it will be Day One or if it will be next year.
Counting the hours down til I can pick up my Xbox One. This will not impact my decision at all.
In terms of specs the consoles aren't that far apart. Between X360 and PS3 there was a larger gap and it was even larger between XBOX and PS2. So this seems like a case of developers needing to get familiar with the hardware.
And who says we're heading into the lands of 4K? The standard is set my the majority, not by the product leader. Lastgen Xbox 360 was considered part of the majority so developers considered it as well. If the Xbox One performs reasonably then it too will decide the standard. The PS4's power will remain largely unused as happened to the PS3 and XBOX before it.
I'm not choosing a console anytime soon but I'm more excited for the Xbox One because its more than just gaming.
I am dissapointed in not having ALL launch games run at 60 FPS and 1080p. Even Dead Rising 3 will only be 30 FPS (not sure about the resolution). Up to a few weeks ago Dead Rising still had some pretty horrible frame rate issues too though they have supposedly been sorted out now.
I hope to hell the damn Kinect isnt taking too much power from the main system and causing some of these issues as I really have no use for it and most likely never will.
Upscale? Upscale no thats crap its NO where near as good or the same as native 1080P
This is just another blow to Microsoft which makes NO sense to consumers. Next Gen is NOT 720P. 1080p, 4K and beyond is NEXT GEN
Not happy with the way Microsoft handled the Xbox One for so many reasons & I am still going to buy an Xbox One.
I personally dont play Call of Duty
This is bad, this is bad.
Nope still getting one
Bleak? I don't think that word means what you think it means.
And now its on here?!?
Why do people care?!?
If you REALLY care about 720p/1080p argument, why not get a PC.......
But just to add, its strange how Forza 5 can run 1080p 6fps though.... Surely its done to the devs to pull their finger out?!?
Without branching out and researching the facts presented in this article, I'm still confused by the wording. Are the two games mentioned specifically not supporing 1080p on XB1 or is it really that the XB1 doesn't support it? The latter is how I intepret the meaning of this article - a meaning that is definitely not good news. On the other hand, if the game doesn't support [it] on XB1 well that is the game's problem as detrimental as it may be to fans of the franchises.
The Xbox One supports 1080p. Don't let this FUD article confuse you, that's what it's meant to do. Create Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.
Yeah, thanks that is what I figured. I did a quick search and discovered that it can support 1080p, but just like many games on current gen hardware, games often come at lower res and are upscaled... and to that extent, some games will be published that dont natively come at 1080p but will at least be upscaled to it. This is an issue for developers not the platform if the platform supports it. Doi! People, come on - the reporting should include some of this for good measure lest people get their impression from one article (and not peruse comments).
These are cross platform games. BF4 and COD. They dont have the time, willingness and resources to port over correctly for he XBONE.
Can we go back to phone talks now as the name of the site implies; WINDOWSPHONE CENTRAL? Thank you.
Dont know if youve noticed. They kind of follow all things Microsoft around here. Its nice.
Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/playstation-4-ultimate-faq-answers-many-questions-closes-many-doors/#ixzz2jKfizJwX
Don't even bother trying to educate consumers. People only tend to care when its against MS. And where MS has the upper hand, people hardly mention it.
Got smart tv so don't care what ps4 can' do.wont to play games not to takl to some stupid big brick as xbox 720p is
Aaaaand this is why I play on a PC...
If I wanted gazillions pixels I'd get a PC which could trump any console, a contemporary living room entertainment box must excel in social/media functions. Love Xbox.
In that respect, you could also get a media center PC that wouldn't be restricted by file formats and have access to more apps than what MS or Sony think you will need and use. There is no point in even buying an expensive weak PC.
They are stuck now. It appears that all the talk about the XBox not having a powerful enough GPU is a fact. They apparently just went too cheap on components.
I believe they should announce a high performance version immediately, and then drop the price on this version to $299.00 just to clear out stock. They should also announce a trade in program for anyone with the original version.
I know they "allowed" Don Mattrick to leave for Zynga right after the announcement, but he may need to go down as the biggest idiot in IT history.
Good analysis. They should definitely hire you instead.
Microsoft is confident that once developers begin to fully utilize the console it will hit 1080p without needing to spend more on memory or processing power. Whether that actually happens remains to be seen for another year or two.
The GPU is weaker than the PS4, but only barely so. The difference isn't as large as you make it out to be.
Blah blah who cares, that's not why i picked the xbone. Games are important, but it runs deeper than resolution.
Getting an xbox one. All things considered the coders got the look they wanted with the tradeoffs in the right place with 720p. Esram and all kinds of novel stuff ms have done take time to find the sweet spot. I'll bet it looks amazing. The matchmaking and services around it on xbox live will be better.
Perhaps the author forgot a /s tag in the headline or something. This kind of flamebait article isn't typical of wpcentral. Weird.
Yes, very odd.
Agree.
amen. weird and dissapointing. almost as if the site was hacked and this article found its way in. Is this a regular author on this site? not familiar with him.
Also chaps, if you dig about a little there are reports of the XB1 dev kits being updated regularly as they weren't exactly optimized. Plus you have an easier to develop for PS4. Article is surely bait...
Also bf4 doesn't run at native res on xbone OR ps4. Maybe Sony fans should also be scared, or maybe people cannot harness the power yet
They're going to be relying on cloud computing, so the future isn't so bleak when it could literally have unlimited potential.
Personally this bothers me very little. Def not enough to sway my pre-order decision. PS3 and 360 had very little difference depsite PS3 being more powerful. The only games you'll notice these differences are on exclusives. My decisions were actually based on the overall value of the system. While gaming is key to me, it was actually all of the other features outside gaming that sealed the deal for me. I see PS4 as literally just a gaming system. Which to many ppl is the whole point of their purchase. But as a gaming enthusiast that already owns a 360, PS3, PS Vita, gaming desktop PC, Alienware laptop, Windows 8.1 tablet and a WP I literally have 100's of games pouring out of my ears. So another system that JUST plays games isn't that exciting for me. Especially when it will be essentlally what Xbox 1 has. Besides, the visuals will be VERY similar each console despite the hardware differences.
Well said.
I agree, but preception is a killer. People expect certain things when they pay a 100 dollar premium over PS4. They at least expect the same kind of game play on both.
It's funny how often you mention perception, especially when nearly this entire article and all its negative comments are in relation to a nearly imperceptible difference in resolution between consoles. If you can really see that big of a difference between 720p and 1080p resolutions, you are sitting waaaay too close to your screen... with a magnifying glass.
Microsoft is confident that once developers begin to fully utilize the console it will hit 1080p without needing to spend more on memory or processing power. Whether that actually happens remains to be seen for another year or two.
A lot of that 100$ goes into the kinect packaged with the console. Kinect might suck now, but who knows? Maybe devs will start to consider it a bit more now that every x1 owner will have one. Voice commands on the 360 kinect are already kind of amusing.
Really? An article like this on WPCentral? Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy about it and yes, MS needs to seriously tweak their developer tools. But do we remember what the 360 looked like at launch compared to current games? The machine is plenty powerful enough and when developers have time to develop a full title on it instead of cramming a port into the launch window things will be fine. I expect overly dramatic articles like this on sites like IGN, not WPCentral. Future looks bleak....sheesh. Even BF4 is running at 900p on the PS4. Not every game is going to nail it at launch.
Seriously guys? Future looks bleak? Bit premature. 900p native for Ryse which is easily one of the best looking next gen games and a launch title doesn't quite agree with your article.
Haha yup i would agree that game is Gorgeous!
If I actually cared about COD I'd care but as long as by the time I get one it runs Halo 5 at 1080p. Or a next Gen Gears of War. I'm sitting on sidelines for a bit tho while kinks are worked out
After the amazing graphics of Halo 4 on 360 I can only imagine what Halo 5 will look like.
This article is ridiculous. Predicitng the whole future on an unreleased console just because a launch title is running lower resolution than the competition. Maybe it has something to do with the developer and not MS...
The title surely is baiting people. I little more research on the writers part, could have penned I better story. For one, yes COD will only be running at 720p on the X1. That could be for a variety of reasons, one of them NOT being a lack of power. Consider Forza 5 for that reason, running natively at 1080p, with many high level features, physics engines and so on. How could it be that Turn 10 can accomplish this goal, yet the X1 somehow is doomed because COD couldn't pull it off? Did anyone care to research anything? Not to say the developers at Activision aren't capable, they may of had different time constraints (releasing on multi-platforms and next-gen consoles), so time could have been an issue. What's better, releasing a game running bad, but can tout 1080p resolution or dropping the resolution, to achieve a better gameplay experience? I would put money on the experience. Even though this could be seen as disappointing news or bad, its clearly not indicative of the X1's future. There are games running natively at high resolution and more to come. When the Xbox 360 released there weren't games running at 1080p, not even 720p, so what again is the big deal? Look where we are now in regards to game quality from 7 years back. Its a different world. Basically, pick the console you want, will enjoy and fits your gaming lifestyle. In the end, it'll all be the same.
Dude, again, you can't compare racing games to FPS. Racing games always look amazing and run at the highest rez because there's not alot going on screen.
Really? Please sir, tell me why Forza is the only racing game on Xbox 360 that can run at 60 FPS?
Surely it must be easy.
Dude BF4 runs 720p on Xbox one and 900p on PS4 so since neither run 1080p natively for that game they are both garbage systems? What ExTrAbUta is saying is that the Xbox one is more than capable of running 1080p DEVELOPERS are choosing the resolution for what they want the game to look like while running 60fps.
O'kay, so COD dev thinks that running 720P on the X1 and 1080P is best for each system, correct? Why not run them both at 1080P? Explain that?
I am not a developer its anybodys guess, i would like to believe its to get 60fps. what i am saying is other developlers are getting games to run at 1080p and some aren't. Why is BF4 not running 1080p on either system, my guess is for the best looking performance they could manage for it to be available at launch of each system. Plus resolution isnt everything when it comes to gaming. If i wanted the best graphics i would get a 2000 dollar gaming PC.
Agreed, but it's perception.
You don't even need $2000. $500 will be okay and anything above that(depending on what parts you get) will do even better.
Microsoft is confident that once developers begin to fully utilize the console it will hit 1080p without needing to spend more on memory or processing power. Whether that actually happens remains to be seen for another year or two.
Go tell COD devs to run the game in 4k HD. They could probably manage it. Have fun at 5fps though.
Exactly. It has nothing to do with the type of game, genre, style or look. I can argue that a racing game has just as many things happening on screen, at speed mind you, the a FPS has. What I am pointing at, as was reiterated, is that these developers are solely in control of how these games will turn out. There are PLENTY of games on either PS3 or Xbox 360, that look horrible, play horrible and are nut good experiences. But, on the other hand we have Halo 4s and Last of Us that go against that same idea. I could judge either systems merits in the game that doesn't push its hardware and we would come to the same conclusion that their not that great. Its why the good developers are the ones being bought up by the companies as first-party and others continue to struggle. The power is there, its up to the developers to use it. Just to throw in a reference to a FPS, I am not skilled at shooting a high powered weapon, so an AR-15 in my hands would look terrible and perform bad. Would that be a testament to the capabilities of the weapon? Or would it be because its in the wrong hands or not being utilized to its potential? The same can then be said for a high powered sports car. If you dint know what your doing on a racetrack, a Ferrari or Lotus Exige will post a horrible lap time, probably matched by something like a Toyota Camry. Would that mean that the cars themselves and their companies have no clue how to build exotic, high performing vehicles? Or is it that the driver doesn't know how to exploit its abilities?
I don't think people are misunderstanding the issue. I think the Author's intent of the article was to scorn. Some are having doubts about the resources the UI is using.
Rubish game = rubish resolution
Rubish console=Xbox 720
Well I already made up my mind on ps4 for many reason, this one extra reason on the list now.
meh who cares. CoD franchise is garbage. for me personally, any third party games i like i get on Steam for PC anyway, so as long as exclusives run in proper HD then i'm happy (Halo).
It's Infinity Ward that has screwed this up. Xbox One can run 1080p just fine, it's just that Infinity Ward doesn't know how to do a good job.
So people, don't be scared.
Wait. So IW decided to make it 720P for X1 and 1080P for PS4? Just because?
If you read a little bit more about this, you'll find out. If others can make 1080p on XboxOne, so can IW. If you wanna know why they decided not to, you got to ask them. XboxOne is more than capable of handling it, just like PS4.
Cancelled my Xbox one preorder. I think drastic price changes are going to occur by next summer for the console. Right now the PS4..just offers better bang for your buck...and I'm an Xbox live user. Microsoft's trump card is their subscription offering but even that is starting to wane IMO. Having said that I still want one..just not now. And I thinks its ultimately the DEV responsibility to optimize their code and the gap will shrink over time. Still worrisome that the PS4 can just 'brute force' it. Makes you wonder if hyper V was the best choice for Xbox.
Actually the PS4 version runs at 900p and gets upscaled to 1080p. So we're talking about 720p vs 900p here. X1 is definitely capable of running games in 1080p, especially CoD, which is known for bad graphics (though they promise stunning graphics every year) and runs on Quake Engine from 2003. All first-party titles run at 1080p, and Forza has much better graphics than CoD (Minceraft has too). Maybe the devs hat devkits before the hardware modification on the X1, so they built the game for that. I also heard from people who played BF4 on X1 (upscaled 720p too) and PS4 (upscaled 900p too) and said they didn't even notice a difference, except that the X1 had less frame drops and richer colors. But I still fear this will be a punch in the face of X1 sales :(
You're being unduly mean to CoD in my opinion, but everything else you say is true and should be heeded.
I fear you are right as far as sales go because not everyone is as clued up and rely on scraps of information to form their half-baked opinions. Editorials with irresponsible headlines like this won't help.
I really wish the click-bait articles would stop. The 720p resolution has nothing to do with Microsoft or the XBox One. It is the DEVELOPER that chooses the resolution. If a DEVELOPER wants to rush a product out the door to be a launch title then it is their fault. The XBox One can do 1080p so stop spreading FUD.
I mean...anyone who is "worried", or "excited", by COD being up-scaled to 1080P on the XB1 should go get a PC. All games are going to look, at least to the common (non-die-hard gamers like myself, who play games for the fun) eye, the same. And if you are really into graphics and raw power, you shouldn't be concerning yourself with the next generation consoles.
I thought it was "upscaled 720p" so pretty much 1080i ?
XBOX One Upsales everygame to 1080p no matter their native resolution be it 720p or 900p.
Microsoft....... The only thing they have that i like is wp8.....and the 360
I don't understand people in charge at Microsoft. Did they gave a child task to design a new Xbone? It can run at 720p and we have 1080p Tv-s and will have UltraHd?? It's the same sh.... like with the phones. Averyone has 1080p, but no, Ms needs to have 720p. PS4 will crush Xbone, and of course resolution does matter. Here are first test results. PS4 is better. Read it at eurogamer
Poor Ms, they are going to have their arses kicked. Ps4 will wipe the floor with Xbone in terms of selling results. Not to mention that there is no xbox live service in many little (and some big) countries where PS4 has it's PS Network.
So much immaturity in this comment. Grow up.
1981 can't be the year you were born anyway
LOL
So call of duty is 720p and the Xbox one displays it at 1080p ?
In order to support the instant swapping of games / TV / Skype / whatever, the OS is going to use up some processor and memory. I don't see how that could be avoided other than to use more power hardware and additional memory. They didn't and so in the near term you're going to have some of this until they learn to efficiently program for this gen. Personally, I'll take the trade-off for a box that is going to rule my living room. Obviously this is bad in the PR war (as was the hacking of the PS3 last gen) and people love to hate MS. I had both last gen, but looking at things now I will probably just do X1 (living room) and PC (real gaming) for this next gen. Sony just failed to impress me last gen.
Simple. Add more memory then. If the UI takes that much, then you need to add more. It's simple fucking math.
Says the person with no experience on the subject at all lol
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