Call of Duty Ghosts to run at 720p; future looks bleak for Xbox One

Professionally calibrated, yeah right.  Now if you said it may be just the opposite on another brand of TV I could have gone for that, but professionally calibrated, doubt it.

I'm confused on what it is your actually trying to say. Can you please clarify your statement?

Footage and screenshots are done via direct capture. TV settings do not factor into it at all.

Capture settings do. Look at the bf4 comparisons. The xb1 is really dark

Isn't this on the developer Infinity Ward, and not MS? Forza 5 runs at 1080p. This early in the console's lifecycle third-party developers are probably still figuring out how to optimize the code.  

That is my thought too.... the fast moving action of Forza can do it but not an FPS? Odd....

Racing games can be a bit easier to get 1080p + 60 FPS because the game is essentially on "rails" and the environment is generally static.  

That's really what seems to be the case. PS3 ran at 720p while XBox 360 ran upscale 1080p yet every one always thought ps3 games looked much better, which was a lie for some games.
I always get all systems as I am a gamer, but it always seems that every one seems to bash X1 for everything, the tables have flipped as its much easier to develop for ps4, so they have yet to crack the x1 development code, but everybody acts as ps4 is going to destroy x1 (far from the truth).
Developers are going to run what's easiest and not waist money. They run the easiest and port for the other.
Half of people don't have a tv screen bigger than 60" so the 720p to 1080p will not be noticeable, especially if you are playing CoD or B4, all that texure and sharpness won't be notice playing a game that fast. "I know I don't play those games to look at how sharp the grass is" I'm more worried about the enemies and getting through the levels.
So people need to give credit where credit is due, I'm not poor so I will be getting both systems, but the X1 is console of more value. 500 gets you a better experience with Kinect packed in, a better camera than the ps4 $60 eye and people may claim that they never will use it or the Skype, and snap, but i will. No one is saying their smartphone is garbage cause its used for internet and apps and say they get it cause its a phone for calling only. X1 does more and i am happy i won't have to switch sources for tv and gaming, Ps4 has more games but many won't come till end of next year. X1 has games now at launch.
So with ps4 "greatness awaits" and i will be there when it arrives but for me, with X1 "Greatness will be there on Nov. 22"
Happy gaming everyone. (regardless of whatever system you choose)

Youre silly to think it takes 60 inch tv to notice difference between 720 and 1080p.

Same can be said for thinking you don't need a 60" to notice the difference.

Wow Henry you really don't know anything about resolution, I can tell difference from 720 to 1080p on my 15 inch laptop and I can sure tell on my 42 inch tv. Probably you never watched movies in blueray full hd

I said the differences will barely be noticeable, not there isn't any noticeable difference. And yes I watched bluray on my TV in full HD, but comparing HD camera resolution on bluray to video game resolution, is comparing apples to oranges. But whatever "Yes there is a big difference in resolution" Your focus on little details is making you miss the whole point of what I was saying. They are similar systems and with X1 1080p upscale from 720p the differences won't be noticeable on any thing under 60", and the differences for the people that do have 60" and above, will barely notice them.

How noticeable specific resolutions are depends on the size of the display and viewing distance.  Get up close to those large jumbotrons and they look like crap, but at typical distances they look pretty decent,  The same goes for anything else.  Stand 10' away from your laptop and you won't notice the difference between 720 and 1080.  If you can, then your eye sight is better than probably anyone else on the planet.  There are calculators out there for determining this.  Believe it or not, but there is a significant portion of the population that can't tell the difference because their TV is too small for their viewing distance.  It's one of the reasons that makes 4k a joke for a lot of people, especially if they have to decrease bit rates to accommodate the larger file sizes of the 4k videos.  I can easily tell the difference, but it is because I have a 95" display with a 16' viewing distance.  There is a good chance I won't be able to notice the difference between 1080p and 4k at my viewing distance.   Here's a chart - http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter/ - I think it is a little on the conservative side.

I've read that the ps4 was up scaling bf4 also

Yep, BF4 on the PS4 runs at 900p but as the Xbox One has dedicated hardware for upscaling the results look much better as the PS4 looks more washed out and blurry from the software upscaling. To be honest I'm really surprised that both new consoles can't do 1080p games easily. I know we're just looking at launch games, but with simple AMD CPUs & graphics cards, surely they know their way around development for these systems already.

Talking about PCs the GPU used in the PS4 and XB1 are not that good in terms of power; so, is this a problem? I think that it'll be, lately people complain more than what it does really affects them. Both consoles looks too weak in my opinion.

I've heard that the PS4 has something like a HD7850 and XB1 has something close to HD7790

That's about right, although with consoles developers can optimize the games better because they know exactly what they have.

Probably not a whole lot of optimisations going on yet.
Hopefully with Mantle the performance on all platforms will go way up. Microsoft seem to have their head up their ass though and are forcing DirectX even if Mantle would give better customer experience for XBone users. My way or the highway style thinking.

A few days ago bought a HD7870 so I'll just have to wait and see about mantle. In the mean time, most of the games I tried so far run 60+ FPS at 1080p and max graphics :)

There's always a limit. You either choose more details or higher resolution. It may be that the CoD team, looking at the upscale capabilities of the XB1, decided that they didn't need to render at 1080P because the console converts 720P to 1080P well enough that there would be more benefit in adding detail.

Funny that Forza will run at 1080P with no issues and thats a racing game.  I think a lot of the blame has to go with the lack of time the developers had with the consoles.  Furthermore, I think Activision is a little sore with MS for making a deal with ReSpawn (Titanfall) and thus focused more on the PS4.  If you also noticed that Battlefield 4 will not run native 1080P on either console.  Also, neither the PS4 or X1 will play games at 4K native resolution, Sony posted this on the PS4 fact site.  I think people should wait and let the dust settle as this is the same crap we heard with the XBOX 360 vs the PS3: and I think the PS3 was supposedlyhad more power than the X360.  I own the PS3 and XBOX 360 and will have both again.  However, I still like my x360 more.

What's so funny about normal cars running well? They're just boxes with tires that look like they're spinning. Barely any animation to worry about, saving it all for the environment.

The is that the game is running is 1080P.  Let's have the 1080P discussion this time next year.  Then the arugument would be valid, otherwise just wait and see. 

Umm, no. Damage means they aren't fixed models, and the amount of reflection in that game is extremely taxing from a graphics standpoint. Gran Tourismo didn't have visible damage until GT5 because they couldn't render it, and even GT5 didn't do it well.

I heard that was a licensing issue.
Carmageddon had a deforming chassis all the way back in 1997.

Just want to throw in my off-topic $.02 and say that Carmageddon was an incredible game for its time!

I have yet to decide for myself which console to get first. That said this is no different then any other console launch it always takes a year or 2 before devs make games to consoles full potential. That said I think this isn't that big of an issue.

I know this is a Microsoft site, but thank you for not being overly biased towards Xbox. For some reason, it seems to get crazy when Xbox is brought up and people just lie to themselves. I love Windows and Windows Phone (practically all I use, just because I enjoy those platforms), but when it comes to gaming, it just doesn't seem like Microsoft gets it. They've never really seemed to care about games or quality. I know they're a business, but they've always seemed like it was all about the money. OT: I don't know if the first comment is talking about COD: Ghosts or BF4, but Battlefield isn't looking so hot, either. http://i.imgur.com/Z7Lq81D.png http://i.minus.com/ibkTxrUV0j959u.gif http://i.imgur.com/HWb79lR.gif http://i.minus.com/ib0gOrDzD8ScKG.gif PS4 looks a lot more realistic and almost exactly like PC version, other than being 900p (Xbox is 720p) and having slightly lower resolution textures. It's not looking good for the future. I was hoping both consoles would be doing a lot better than they are now. Sure, we'll get better visuals in the near future, but in 6 or 7 years they'll be looking VERY dated. I'm going to assume, though, that the noticeable difference between PS4 and Xbox will only increase as the current games are cross generation. I may get an Xbox One in the future, but currently I don't feel compelled to do so.

To be honest, all those comparisons, I don't think either system looks amazing, and I think it's because we're looking at a port of a current gen game. The next gen specific titles are where it's going to matter.

Yeah, I think that'll be the case.

Either that or maybe the gaming PC will have some life breathed into it. I like console games, as well as mobile games, but I love my PC games.

Hold on to your cash for now, decide 2 months from now or something. Also ask about other things it can do, ex: can it play dvd/ bluray, what are the internals like for smoothness, etc.

I think they had it easy with the xbox 360, the share complexity of programming for the ps3 was enough for developers never having the budget to really enhance games for the platform, and because most people had the xbox 360 they would just optimize the games for that platform. X86 changes everything though. Developing will be much easier and a great deal of people seem to be interested in the ps4. I still think microsoft will has a slight edge here since they have the experience in developing games for x86 platforms with directx and even game engines being already optimized for windows, whereas ps4 will have a fedora version of linux, this might change over the years to come when the platform ps4 runs on mature. But for now I reackon games on Xbox will look much better simply because they already do games for pcs. Better hardware is not always what makes games look better... plus we'll have to wait and see whether these rumours are true... I might get a ps4 if it ends up being true, but I'm sure microsoft will come up with another console, these fights is what brings inovation to the table and makes consoles better and better, i just hope they learn from their mistakes :)

I looked at all of those screenshots and my reaction is so what.  The same response the majority of console buyers will have.  I don't buy the console for graphical clarity.  As long as I can see clearly what is going on I could care about a little more clarity here and there.  Also why I don't have a blu-ray player either, because who cares, I can see.

This is the first article I read on this site that is very, very weak with the facts and details pertaining to the news being reported. Let me explain and hopefully some of you read this. THIS IS NOT LIMITATION DUE TO XBOX. This is just the developers, call it lazy or w.e its the developers, period. Another thing misleading in the article, Battlefield 4 for PS4 will run at 900p only COD will be native 1080p at launch. To say "and supposedly having a 10 year lifespan, the fact that the new console can’t handle launch titles in 1080p is a major concern" the console can definitely handle it, it is THE DEVELOPERS. Heres the tweet from Mark Rubin of CoD franchise "but wanted to confirm that for Xbox One we’re 1080p upscaled from 720p. And, we’re native 1080p on PS4. We optimized each console to hit 60 FPS and the game looks great on both" Now on to battlefield 4, this is from Eurogamer report "[T]he actual results on PS4 lack the corresponding level of crystal clarity we’d expect of such a significant resolution boost,” Thomas Morgan of Digital Foundry writes. “This should surely be a home run for Sony’s console, but what is likely to be a software-based upscale to 1080p delivers less-than-stellar returns, and for better or worse leaves the Xbox One with an often crisper looking, albeit much more aliased image" So no this is NOT another 'pro' for PS4 fans at all lol and same thing with Ryse, it is because of the DEVELOPERS that they have decided to code at 900p. I really would have expected much better on this report from windows phone central, I read this on another site last night and that's where I got all my info. I ain't getting none of the new consoles but I just had to point out the truth, so misleading information doesn't get spread.

All I can say is Microsoft can keep the Xbox One if it just upscales and does not support native 1080p games. What the hell is the point of the console upgrade then? I wonder whos head will roll for this one, but the bottom line is if Microsoft does not fix this fast the days of the Xbox are numbered.  

<p>If you had read the other replies you would have seen that it can handle 1080p, some games are coming out with it, but the developers are not making the games with 1080p. Also, you can see from some of the responses that the Xbox running 720p upscaled to 1080p sometimes looks better than a ps4 running the game in native 1080p.</p> <p>In conclusion read previous posts before spouting off something that is completely inaccurate.</p>

Michael, I really hope this isn't an article to get ad impressions and clicks. You have put out pretty good and well thought out posts in the past, I really hope this isn't a WMPU-like move for you. By and large you should know better but I'll give you pass on this one. Realistically, this doesn't paint a negative picture for the console at all. Launch games are rarely, if ever, the pinnacle of what a console can do. Moreover, keeping a frame rate of 60 FPS has always seemed more important to COD devs (IW or Treyarc). If their optimization of the Xbox one landed them lower than that mark while at 1080p (native) then I have no problem with them dropping it. Nor do I have a problem with Battlefield doing it for PS4. They need to set the right experience and have the game play better.

Idk man, 1080p and 720p is a noticeable difference in my opinion. Although, I wouldn't base my purchase over one game's ability to render in 1080.

Yeah, and even if its not launch 1080p, I assume they could released a patch to make it native. Idk, the color is more important to me, so I don't understand people who nitpick by going "oh, look, the Xbox dropped 3 frames while the playstation only had 2" and stuff like that. It doesn't even register to me. We all want different things from a console I guess, but that's just my preference.

People are saying that they dont care because its not the other way around "Xbox One does 1080P, PS4 720P" If it was like that everyone here would be like OMG HAHAHA PS4 FAILS etc. 

YES!

Let's look at the bright side: Xbox One games will come out more optimized and run on a cooler system, while PS4 developers will rely more on the speed of the console and we will end up with unoptimzied games running on a hotter system.

You really don't know that. Remember that the PS3 was more powerful than the 360, yet it was the 360 which suffered from heat issues. Heck, that's despite the fact that Microsoft doesn't put the PSU in the console like Sony.

How was PS3 more powerful than 360? My understanding is that the 360 had more memory than the Xbox. Take a game like Skyrim for example. Bethesda (the developer) pushed the boundaries well for the 360 version, but suffered terribly with the PS3 version and had to abandon 2 planned DLCs because of that

No. They had the same amount of RAM, but the PS3 had it split up. Half was faster RAM. The 360 just had one pool of RAM. So, this time around, it's the Xbox that will have the same problem. All the while, being the weaker console. It's not a very good place Microsoft has put themselves in (only concerning games, I suppose). And, yes, the PS3 had the power supply built into the system and, somehow, didn't have the issues the 360 had. It's crazy to see how big the Xbox One is while not even including the power supply. The PS4 is so much smaller (smaller than the PS3 Slim!) and still includes the power supply and more power. I think Microsoft just wanted to be SUPER careful this time around. :P Hopefully, we don't see any heat issues with the PS4 (I'm sure we won't with the Xbox), but that is Sony's specialty (hardware).

PS3 is faster than the 360...  The problem is that is faster for floating points math (which is excellent for BluRay movies), but not for games which need also general logic processing.  Floating points then need to be converted and massaged (dumbed down) to do the normal processing, which slow down the system.  PS3 needs more cycles for each cycle on the XBOX. For example, a core i7 vs a core i5, even that the i7 runs slower than the i5; the i7 gets more done.  Speed and amount of memory is not the only measurement for work done.  Use the internet to search for: computer pipelines, data pipelines and computer architecture to learn how computer works.  Learn how they are optimized. Its like using a racing car to tow a boat... Its fast, but doesnt get the job done.  It will get there, but an F-150 will be there faster. If you asked, the XBOX One has voice recognition, kinect, and virtualization in the box; all this on top of playing game.  You guys tell me who has the best cpu architecture.

Enough said. Well done! People need to read this and get educated!

Youre theory is horrible : /

Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. If anything, PS4 games will be more optimized. Have you seen PS3 exclusives compared to 360 exclusives? The power gap is only bigger and the PS4 is even easier to develop for. It will just take developers longer to optimize the Xbox to try and lower the gap between the two.

No I wouldn't because games like mw3 & blackops II currently run at 720p and I use hdmi input on my 60" Samsung that's 1080p LED TV and I have no issues at all. Besides if other games run at 1080p on XB1, its does sound like its on the developers; if that's the case then in think article need to clarify clearly instead of list headline to cause an uproar (not saying wpc is doing this because I'm a fan).

It's not. There really aren't any games that run at 1080p, other than a couple(?) that have taken sacrifices to achieve 1080p.

Too accurate. I'm probably never going psX because I'm too lazy to learn psX controls after learning Xbox ones already.

Can you truly notice a difference and to what degree?

The bigger the tv, the more you will notice. I used a 65", I can see the difference from a 720P image to a 1080p image, it's noticable.

It's not the same as watching a 720P vs 1080P movie on a big screen.  They are using sophisticated upscaling it to 1080P, so you won't notice any pixilation.  However, you will lose specific granularity, so edges may appear slightly more fuzzy on the XBox One. Either way, it's unforgivable and will cost Microsoft more money in lost console sales then simply putting in a better GPU.

You watched a game play video from youtube I presume? I would not call that a any kind of test. :D Wait till you see the two next to each other on your +50" HD TV and then make the test. 

Big difference! Same thing is happening with Battlefield 4. Saw this played side by side with PS4. The difference was defiantly noticeably, enough to make think twice about purchasing a Xbox One.

No one ever answered why 720. Was there a limitation or is the Xbox just not powerful enough?

That's what i would like to know, as i thought both x1 and ps4 where using pretty much the same SOC from AMD.

Developer have not had enough time to optimize the games is the issue.

You relaly don't know that. Remember that the PS3 was more pwoerful than the 360, yet it was the 360 which suffered from heat issues. Heck, that's despite the fact that Microsoft doens't put the PSU in the console like Sony. They use the same CPU, but the GPUs aren't identical (the PS4's is stronger).

That's what I want to know too, even though im still getting Xbox one, just gonna cry myself to sleep if thats MS's fault and not developers, watching games side by side

It's about fps. The devs limited the game to 720p to get maximum frames per second.

The developer was targeting a 60 fps framerate. I believe the xbox was running the game at something like 50 fps.

Were the TV's identical and setup identical? What size TV were you comparing them on? 32" or smaller, not a big deal here but larger TV's, 1080p is definitely better.

U rite. That 1080p don't look gud on PS4. When XBONE start pushing their 1080p it's going tu look better than PS4 1080p

Imagine how much better it would be if it was native 1080p. And yes, I'm getting the X1 at the midnight launch at my best buy store.

Yea well that's not saying much. These are just launch titles. Even Halo 3 came out 2 years later at 640p but look at Halo 4 now

People are so quick to call this thing doomed based on launch titles when every new consoles launch title linup is always lacking in graphics and performance compared to games that come out 1 or 2 years later.   The Xbox One HAS games that will run native at 1080p, it's been said.   The system can do it, developers will just have to be willing to code to it.  There are games on the PS4 that don't run native 1080p either, like Battlefield 4 which is 900p on the PS4.   I guess that makes it not next gen either right?   It's like people forget how the first batch of 360 games looked, or how PS3 games looked at launch or the PS2 and so on.  The first batch is always weaker due to a number of reasons.

The sad thing is that it shouldn't even be an issue, regardless of what the PS4 can do.  With today's technology, it should be able to do 1080p without developers having to be "willing to code to it".

Can you build a $400 computer today that will do new-release games at 60fps and 1080p?

No, but I can make a $650 one that would run almost all games at 60 fps and 1080p+ native. Guess what though? Console gamers pay more for games (steam sales constantly drop newer games to $40), you're also locked into a system for years whereas a PC can upgrade a single part if it needs to, $50 a year for services that are free on steam, there is also anti-aliasing, mods, emulators, etc etc. Also, don't even bring up monitor prices because you pay something like $300+ for your TV. In the end, you're likely to pay MORE for your console set up for a locked and weaker system. 

So, in short, no you can't...

It's not the fact that it's in 720p but, it's the fact that it's the most epensive Next Gen console. We dont just want 1080p games, WE EXPECT IT.   This is 2013, not 2008, This is a not even released High end console, we EXPECT 1080p or higher, to see AAA games like Ghosts or BF4 come over in only 720p when Sony gets them in 1080p, is a joke.   I guess for the few release titles, People will forget this in 6 months but, In 3-4 months if all games start coming out in 720p only, I would call it a failure, no matter on how good the games are.   Microsoft Quoted saying 4K support.... this is not even close...

Exactly...

BF4 is only 900p on PS4 not 1080p

Yeah... It's not looking good for the future of these consoles, but especially Xbox. I just don't see the point in focusing on media when people can just get a cheap box that does more if they don't care about games. I know they want to be the all in one box, but they're making too many sacrifices in the games department. Ya know, the thing a games console is supposed to do?
I am really excited for the consoles, though. :P

Oh no! What am I gonna do now?! I can't possibly have any fun with games running in 720p!! Smh

So why are you getting next gen if you don't care about graphics? If you only care about gameplay, which I doubt, stay on your xbox 360/ps3 for the next few years. Please...you console idiots don't even know what next-gen means...it marks an era of higher quality games with higher fps. Xbox STILL can't do 1080p native? At $500 + $50 a year for a game like Ghosts? Absolutely pathetic.

Well if I really cared about graphics, wouldn't I be playing on a PC? What if I want to play some of those games only available on Xbox One? It has nothing to do with graphics. It's not gonna stop me from getting one or enjoying it. Same with a Wii U, people will buy it to play Mario and Zelda no matter how underpowered it is cause most people just don't care about specs. They care about the games and overall experience. I'm an online gamer, Xbox Live is the more powerful network, so I guess it balances it out

Launch titles are what can make or break a console, at least for a while. Look at the Wii U. I'm sure that consoles would being doing much better had Nintendo not delayed the launch's defining titles. Granted this isn't the same exact issue, but the point is if the first couple of games for new consoles don't show off its true potential, the average consumer won't see a reason to upgrade. And the fact that Ghosts was first designed to run on high-end PCs then scaled down to meet the limits of each respective platform is, I think, saying something about the Xbox One version. This really shouldn't be an issue, but the fact that the PS4 and Xbox One are almost identical in terms of hardware, launch games, etc. means every little advantage one platform has is a big advantage.

It already has. Getting a PS4. I want a GREAT gaming console. Not a console trying to be good at alot of things like reading sign language.

What an ignorant thing to say.  I would say they are both great consoles and I highly doubt you can see the difference between 1080 and 720 unless you have a 70 inch television.  People need to stop reading into the hype and buy the system that has the games they prefer.  This hardware debate is really making people look childish and stupid.

The hardware debate is a legitimate one. Microsoft wants to own the living room and they developed a budget gaming console with a media center at its heart and are charging a premium . Whilesony developed a beast . There's no arguing the facts that the ps4 is way more capable than the xb1 at $100 cheaper. Microsoft ruined the Xbox brand . You watch this generation. The Xbox will sell nowhere near as much as the ps4. Every mistake Sony made last Gen Microsoft copied and everything right Microsoft did Sony copied .

I wouldn't take wagers on that if I were you. This console generation will last 6-10 years. Both systems will have their issues out the gate, which will be patched and we'll all move on. Both systems will sell well as they have games/feature that appeal to different people.

Are you sure you did your research?  The hardare is about the same outside of the more expensive memory.  Futhermore, Sony is not telling you the truth as they are selling the PS3 for a loss.  I do not know if this is a good move for a company that just reported a huge quarterlt loss while MS reported over a 5 billion dollar pprofit.  Maybe this is why the PS4 will not let you play your music(CDs, MP3s) on the console and want you to pay for a subscription.  They always say you get what you pay far and Sony in the long run may be making a huge mistake by not considering the Living Room.  Only time will tell.

I've been saying this for months now doesn't anyone else think it's Funny that Sony a Entertainment brand that owned the Living room for the last 2 decades is forfeiting it to a Software company? No Matter what anyone says the fact that they are selling the PS4 at a loss and are engaging this war from the bully pulpit (quick one liners to fuel the Haters) will come back to bite them in the arse. I think Microsoft has positioned itself in this console war  (knowing that PC Gaming will become far more affordable during this next cycle of consoles) in a place to offer more for your buck than PS4 since both can already be beat (albeit at a much higher cost) by a PC

Sony always sells at a loss... I don't know what point you're trying to make... They make their money on software. Same as Microsoft, actually... Nintendo is the only one that makes a profit on consoles sold (because they can't get people to buy much software). The Wii U is sold at a tiny loss, however.

I feel what you're saying but if I can get rid of my bluray player, roku, chromecast, 360 and media player with one box. I'll take that any day over a dedicated device. Oh btw Xbox one plays games too.

What an ignorant prick.

While I disagree with the sentiment here, the fact that such a major title as ghosts will not be running native 1080p on XB1 is totally shocking to me. I did not pre-order either system as I like to wait for hands on reviews but was leaning xb1 before this couldd change my opinion again.

But it will soon

YES THE XBOX WILL MAGICALLY GET BETTER HARDWARE TO RUN NEWER GAMES AT HIGHER RESOLUTION. This is what idiots actually believe? 

No, but the SDKs will make it easier to optimise to output 60fps @ 1080p.   Prick.

May I remind you I feel the XONE will appeal more to the general public, yes "Hardcore" gamers want a console solely for games.  But people want a device to play great games plus more.  I believe The XBOX ONE will do a much better job of that, also Xbox Live is 100 times more stable and well dont than PSN.  I do alot of multiplayer, and  I have more confidence in Microsofts ability  handle that better than Playstation.  The Snap feature looks pretty sweet as well!

Why get a car air conditioning. I wanted a machine that takes me places not a damn climate control system!!! And speaking of stuff my machinery does that isn't it's primary function, why in the hell does my cell phone play music and connect to the internet!!! It's meant to make PHONE CALLS not be an all-in-one device! Dammit!!! When I was a kid I used to jam one game cartridge into my console and I used to have to get off the couch to change games!! HOW DARE THEY MAKE A DEVICE DO MORE THAN ONE THING, FASTER, AND EASIER THAN BEFORE! I WANT 27 ATARI 2600 SIZED DEVICES UNDER MY TV STAND BECAUSE COMPUTING DEVICES SHOULD DO ONE THING AND ONE THING ONLY. Yeah. That's how stupid people complaining about Xbox's media features sound.

1. Air condition is meant to make the main purpose of a car, driving, more comfortable.
2. The Xbox One's "media features" are nowhere near as innovative as the features brought about with the introduction of smartphones. They're literally just new ways to do the same stuff most people can already do with other devices connected to their TV.
Try again.

1. The multitasking, streaming, recording, content consumption features and VOICE controls make gaming on the Xbox more comfortable to use. None of which take away from the ability to play games.
2. New cars with better traction control, stability and fuel efficiency systems aren't really that innovative. They are literally just new ways to do the same stuff most people can already do with the vehicles they own. Try again. ...What an asinine argument. Every new piece doesn't reinvent the wheel. They improve existing things as well as add new. Hell, the new isn't even necessary, improvements are usually enough in the tech world.

The point that I was trying to make was NOT that these features are stupid, useless, unhelpful, etc. In fact I do believe they could prove to be helpful to many. The point I was trying to make is that most of these features really won't push the majority towards the Xbox One because they're truly not as innovative as Microsoft or its fanboys would like you to think. I'm sure XO will still sell well as the 360 did, but I wouldn't go as far as to say "OMG media, xbone will win fosho".
People here really need to realize that criticizing the XO =/= PlayStation fanboyism.

Explain to me how streaming recording, and content consumption features help me play video games?  Playing video games is what my video game console is supposed to do right?  `Voice control isn't bad and could be cool for some games though.  You say these don't take away from the ability to play games, but people are just pissed the xbone isn't running launch at native 1080p.  Its entirely possible that in the future as developers get more accustomed to the xbone they can regularly produce at 1080p native, but as of now that isn't always happening so naturally people feel the xbone is compromising gaming for media.  When the xbone can satisfy everybody by running 1080p natively regularly additional features gearing the console towards being a media powerhouse will start to seem more appealing. Improved features make the experience better.  You bag on cars that are improving their existing features, but then say that they don't need to reinvent the wheel.  Your arguments seem contradicting. Personally, I use a smaller tv so I could care less between 720p and 1080p, but many people use massive tvs that make the differences apparent.  For a lot of these people running anything below 1080p doesn't cut it anymore.  Before anything in general begins to compromise to add additional features it should ensure that its primary features are well established to the point that the compromises are negligible.  Today non-native 1080p isn't negligible.

You need to try again. His comment address the fact that people are acting like a device doing more than it's primary function is a bad thing. His sarcasm was well placed, your response was beyond weak. #1 did not counter his comment but helped it. #2 is opinionated. So you really do need to try again.

BK, have it your way.

I never understood that argument: PS4 is better because it only does games whereas Xbox One sucks because it does a lot of things. When did extra convenience and features become a bad thing? Did you buy a flip phone instead of a smart phone because you only want a phone to make calls? How about a typewriter over a computer because all that extra non-word processing stuff detracts from the word processing ability. And what about a car with a radio in it. Surely that takes away from driving. Such a naive argument. If I'm going to spend hundreds of dollars on a device, I want it to do a ton of awesome shit. The Xbox One does a ton of awesome shit; the PS4 doesn't. I find the PS4 quite boring, actually (although I like the  p hysical design of the console itself). If you're that obsessed with graphics, specs, and resolutions, ditch console gaming entirely and get a high-end PC (but be forewarned, it'll be able to do a lot of extra things besides gaming, which apparently is a downside).

They said the exact opposite at the start of the current generation, coip. The Sony fanboys cited the PS3's ability to do more than just play games (i.e play Bluray movies) as a reason why it is better. Now the other side of the argument suits them. There's no sense to their arguments so don't waste your time looking for it.

then you should get a pc.. i hear they do 4k already...

That's you. For me, I watch a lot more tv than I play video games. I want a console that can enhance my TV watching and play games. If the resolution is a bit lower, I can live with that. The games won't be less fun to play becasue the resolution is lower.

Ymcpa -- If you watch more TV than play games, then why don't you buy a "smart" TV, to enhance your viewing? I don't get your argument, or are you one of those gamers who like prancing around, like a man possessed with "Kinect"....? ha ha ha ha

If you're more into movies and TV than games, than you shouldn't buy either, and buy a much, much cheaper Roku or Apple TV ($99!).

Yeah I will stick with the Xbox one!

Me tu XBONE ALL DAY!

I'm loving seeing these arguments :)

WTF is with the link-bait, trolly titles of the last few xbox one articles..."bleak"?  really? 

And seriously...the most advanced $1000 dollar graphics cards can't do 4k gaming...this will never happen on the xbox one or ps4 unless we are talking geometry wars style games

Acutally... Even the top tier Graphics cards from last Gen (6950 and up) can do 4k... How do I know this you might ask? well simply because I have done it... Yes it was 3D, yes it was 60FPS (actually i was getting almost 70FPS) and yes there was TONS going on... Past that I cant say much as its under NDA... I can also tell you that the specks of both XB1 and PS4 can both do 4k... however in order to do so they will have to be efficent and stop with the photo realistic shaders...      

It's called multi-monitor support and it's been around for a decade.
 

Agreed.  Since when has the visual quality of a single launch title had much of an overall effect on the lifetime of a console? The only time I can recall is GoldenEye for N64.

It's just a symptom of the basic issue that the XB1 has worse hardware than the PS4. It's not a good situation for them to be techically inferior, now all the games can look a little sharper on the competition.

It doesn't have "worse hardware". The game makers have to take advantage of the hardware, which in this case, they didn't use the Xbox to its full potential.

Yeah, but that's what they said about the PS3 as well, which was categorically untrue on a LOT of cross-platform software.

I'd count 50% more powerful GPU on the PS4 as "better hardware". Well, it really comes down to exclusives.

They said that for tha PS3 n still lol... That don't mean nothing XBONE got graphics tu, and it's funny how XBONE 720 look better than PS4 1080p....when they going tu upscale tu 1080p there going tu look sharper than tha PS4

Just by the way you type I can tell you have downs. The PS3 had a cell architecture which was harder to develop on than Xbox's architecture, which led to shittier ports. Now, both have the same x86 architecture through AMD, both are as easy to develop on, and if it DOESN'T look better on the PS4 it is a design choice by a lazy developer. Also, it just said the PS4 is not upscaling Ghosts but is rather native 1080p. Please do your research before posting, thanks.

But the Xbox 360 was "technically" inferior to the PS3 and still tied for 2nd place behind the extremely inferior Wii for consoles sold this generation. And lets not for get that the orginal Xbox had better graphics than the PS2 so pure specs haven't mean squat to the average person for the last 2 console generations.   And don't forget the PS4 is missing a sensor in the box and even if you buy it seperate it is nowhere near as cabable as the Kinect 2. So you get what you don't pay for in that instance.   And by looking at the footage (not that crappy, dark, contrasty footage that Digital Foundary admited they captured poorly), there is not a night and day difference but more like noon and after noon. I don't play still shots of video games. In motion, a truley blind test would probably be a 50/50 split for people choosing console looks best for these third party games.

COD is not a demanding game, so for it to be unable to run at 1080p is worrying for the future. There's so much fanboyism going on in here it's ridiculous. The ps4, from the looks of it at this early stage, will be technically superior to the xbone in terms of graphics. End of story. Whether you'd be willing to sacrifice the most likely better gaming experience on the ps4 for the more media centric xbone is up to you.

COD is not a demanding game?  Oh, and I suppose you are a graphics programmer familiar with next-gen hardware?  Somehow I bet you've never written a single shader in your life.

WPCENTRAL IS SO ANTIMICROSOFT WHO WOULD EVER READ THIS TRAITOROUS PS4-LOVING SITE.

You, apparently.

NICE!

Obviously he's being sarcastic about everyone being offended by the article, just because it says something "bad" about Microsoft.

I was thinking the same thing: "future looks bleak for Xbox One". I never thought I would see such a bait-and-click headline on WPcentral, which has largeley resisted the disturbing trend of faux journalism blogs that have taken over the Web. This is a launch title. The developers didn't have a ton of time to work on the games. Nothing to write home about. Check back in a year. My guess is all games will be running natively at 1080p.

So you want all WPC writers, to write articles about fairies and leprechauns', and how perfect everything Microsoft is? Come on, he's asking if it will affect your purchasing decision, in regards to Xbox One? Furthermore, he has written a good article, give the man credit -- or do you want WPC to be known around the net for biased journalism, like them blind fanboys over at Crackberry?

No, I want all WPC writers to act like responsible journalists. Taking a minor issue--a single launch title by a third-party developer, who are rushing to meet the launch deadline and who didn't have any prior experience coding for the Xbox One because it's brand new, that runs at a slightly lower resolution but still looks better than the same game running at a higher resolution on the competitor's console, the PS4--and deeming it a "bleak future" for the entire console is a ludicrious overreaction. If, 1 year from now the majority of titles are running at 720p on Xbox One, then he can write an article with that title. As of now, though, it's nothing but unresponsible, bait-and-click pseudo-journalism to title an article that, given the actual situation.

Thankyou for clearing that up, I understand your point of view now -- and I respect your opinion. However, how do you know that the developer was rushing to meet the launch date? Have you got a source to back up what you are saying?
You see, when I read the title and the article, it raised questions in my head such as:
Why is PS4 in 1080 and Xbox One isn't, seen as they have similar specs? Does this mean the developers gave preferential treatment to Sony? If so, does this suggest indy developers are pissed at Microsoft? So from my perspective the title wasn't 'click-bait'.
Furthermore, apart from you thinking the title was suspect. What is your view in regards, to how this will affect your next console purchase?

There is no source claiming that they were rushed in their developmen other than industry know-how. It happens every time a new console launches. The fact that this information came out now, a few weeks before the console launches (i.e., right when games go gold--that it, go to press), suggests they ran out of time to get it at 1080p natively. We know the Xbox One can do 1080p natively, so the fact that they didn't get this game to do it suggests a combination of a few things 1. lack of time, 2. lack of resources (they may have devoted more time and staff to the PS4 version of the game), and 3. lack of know-how (the console is brand new and they're just learning how to program for it; that takes time, practice, and experience). The author of this article should've pointed that out. Personally, this doesn't affect my purchase at all. I don't care that much about 'eye candy'. If I did, I'd be a PC gamer running a high end PC. If you look at the comparison shots of this game running on PS4 and Xbox One you'll see that despite the lower native resolution that the Xbox One version actually looks better, further suggesting that people are a little too obsessed with numbers at the expense of reality. My next-gen console purchase was based on several things that gave the edge to Xbox One: a better online network (LIVE > PSN), a better controller (I think the Dual Shock is overrated), better games (Titanfall, Halo), the voice and gesture controls of Kinect 2, and the extra features (TV integration, hot swapping between apps, Skype, Bing and Internet Explorer), etc. The Playstation, honestly, seems kind of boring to me (but I do love the physical design of the console: I think it looks cool).

Best comment here. I totally agree with coip.

Thankyou coip, for your 2nd opinion -- totally NO fanboy crazy talk there mate, unlike most of the comments on this article lol -- respect to you mate.

I'd count 50% more powerful GPU on the PS4 as "better hardware". Well, it really comes down to exclusives.
I really hope they won't run 1080p. I'd much rather have more actual content on screen than just more pixels representing less content.

I'm not even going to mince words, Archambault is their click-bait, doom-and-gloom guy. Rather appalling.

Who cares about launch titles. Let see where both platforms are in year or so. I bet my last penny, XOne will beat PS4.

I really do doubt that. The end sales of both consoles came equal globally in the end. Though Sony's monetization of the system was always very poor compared to Microsoft. meaning Microsfot got the profits.  PS3 got a slight edge in Europe over 360, and this time PS4 will likely absolutely destroy it in sales. Japan goes without saying. PS4 will also no doubt see totally different sales in US. It's the 3rd console curse all over again.  That said Microsoft of course wont be going anywhere even if PS4 ended up totally destroying the competition. Xbox One will also no doubt have the monetization better handled with the software platform it has going on. 

Why, because the PS4 is faster? Remember, the PS3 was the faster console, too, but the 360 ended up on top. The hardware capability is in the "close enough" category for the XB1, and in everything else the XB1 is a win. It'll do just fine.

Agreed. In the long haul the x1 will beat the ps4, why, because Microsoft has taken risks that Sony couldn't simply afford to do. They NEED the ps4 to be a success as the rest of the company is haemorrhaging money. This i think is the reason they again went for more power and will jump on any opportunity to slam the x1. As devices like the DS, iPhone and 360 have shown, power isn't everything content and software and most importantly a unique and innovative UX will prevail. Microsoft themselves realised this after making the original Xbox and have been working since to make the x1. As it stands now, neither machines are next gen for me, to be next gen they should be aiming for 4k.

That's Tru

Get both and be happy all...for the ones that can.

In power? Obviously that's not true... That doesn't even make any sense, what you're saying. The noticeable difference will only be increased, because these are cross generation titles and looks almost the same on all platforms.

Kind of annoying but I have no issue. A lot more to graphics than just the resolution. The non gaming features of the box are what I'm most excited for anyway.

Still getting a xbone, but MS needs to understand spec wars is a big factor in the console war.  With all the negative stuff coming out about the xbone from the beginning and then flip flopping, this is just another hit on a PR standpoint.    Probably will get a ps4 when there is a deal later on, but i think the ps4 is going to beat on the xbone this gen.  At least in the early stages of this generation. 

People are talking specs now because the consoles aren't released yet. Then gamers will be too busy playing games to bitch about similar specs.   The real "specs" people will be playing on PC's.  

Aye MS always got a plan. Don't even worry about it. I was going tu say how XBONE going tu win, but I don't want tu give tha SONY COMPANY no ideas. Let em find out on there own

I don't even know what to say about this comment...

Spec wars are important for the geeks, early on. For Mom buying a Christmas present, she doesn't know the difference. Sees the XB1 with the same games but much more capability otherwise, goes with XB1. You need exponential differences in hardware to get real, tangible differences in graphics at this point. 50% better means 900P vs 720P if the devs don't want to optimize at this point (which is probably the case for games that launch on anything but the next gen consoles,) but it won't be much of a difference after that. Even with 7 year old hardware, the 360 holds up well against the faster PS3.

This game and BF4 run at 720p at 60 fps and PS4 runs 1080p COD and 900P BF4 so these are two games people are over reacting, I am getting a XBOX ONE its on pre-order with RYSE-900p, FORZA-1080p, Deadrising 3 which i think will run 1080p dont quote me on that so what i am getting at it wont be till next year that we see the full potential of each system.  XBOX will be fine and so will teh PS4.  

I really dont see the big deal.  720p looks great. I'm thinking they just need to tweak some things and ran out of time. Buying the X1 regardless.

Smart man

More like a brainwashed moron.

Bell-end.

Activision knows that probably 90% of the sales for Ghosts will be on 360, PS3, and Windows, given that it'll be too early in the XB1/PS4 lifespan for them to have that much market share. It's not that they ran out of time or anything, it's just not worth it for them to really optimize the code for a console that ends up being such a small part of their sales. Let the new consoles get some market penetration and developers will start showing what they're capable of.

Not really. I've decided I'm not buying any of them, from the moment they both decided not to support Media streaming from a PC (well, at least upon launch)   But if this keeps happening to Xbox One, it won't be good indeed. I honestly can't understand how is it possible that, nowadays, games that come specifically on blu-ray aren't all 1080p. It's just stupid, regardless of the console.

Yeah, media streaming is my most used feature. Sure, less power isn't a good thing, but I don't think it will be the deciding factor. I think the price tag is a much bigger one. I'd expect Sony to sell a bit more, at least initially, but I don't see them clearly dominating next gen.

XB1 will be maybe 5% of Ghost sales. Why would Activition worry about optimizing for it? Launch titles that are ports from existing platforms never look that good.

Yea! ps4 does a great job bluring the img to be able to load higher res! =p

Sony wack

No. That's not even true... It only looks that way on YouTube. On the Xbox, there is a lot of post sharpening that adds a lot of noise and increases jaggies, but makes the textures "pop" more. And, with the weird contrast, it makes it look "better" on YouTube, but it looks so unrealistic. It actually looks pretty bad... Here's BF4:
http://i.imgur.com/Z7Lq81D.png
http://i.minus.com/ibkTxrUV0j959u.gif
http://i.imgur.com/HWb79lR.gif
http://i.minus.com/ib0gOrDzD8ScKG.gif The shadows, lighting, textures, contrast, ambient occlusion (non-existent), performance, etc. is all messed up on the Xbone. PS4 looks like PC, but for some reason, Xbone looks a LOT different from PC. I don't know if it's just to "cover things up," but it looks so artificial.

I agree..  while the PS4 looks blurry, it does look better.  The driving glove looks better, but everything else looks jagged and gross.

These screenshots were proven to be inconclusive because Digital Foundry messed up the video, made the PS4 look worse http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87920080&postcount=1

I believe that only addressed ambient occusion and colorspace issues..  the jagged power lines are another story.  Let me be clear, I'm totally getting an X1, but I'm sad if the developer releases the game in this state.  Scroll to the bottom where I wrote a very long impression of this situation.  The GPU power of the X1 can handle full Res with the shadows turned down ... and still get 60 FPS.  its comparable to the Radeon 7770 and you can see it's performance on tomshardware.com.

These screenshots were proven to be inconclusive because Digital Foundry messed up the video, made the PS4 look worse http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87920080&postcount=1

It has taken Sony the existence of Xbox and Xbox 360 to bring a sub par Xbox live 2004 to the table. Ill pass come back at me in 10 years.

Lol. I'm sorry I think its funny that people acting like it don't matter that XBox is running games at 720 but I can only imagine the flaming had it been a reversed situation. There's also other games that will be released that will at 720. It may not matter you but people who care about resolution, just like phone, will make decisions based just on that.

Honestly whenever I go on gaming forums it only seems like the playstation gamers that are bitter. Go look at the post on a negative Xbox story and compare it to the ones on a playstation story. Its not even close. Seems like a lot of playstation users in the US are still butthurt from last generations butt kicking on US soil.

If the situation was reversed, it would be a case of "the machine with the better on-paper specs has worse real-world performance" and so any smug self-righteousness would be justified. It would also still be the logical thing to point out that this early in the lifecycle of the consoles, one data point does not a trend make.

will be sticking with the much better console Xbox One. They have been innovating and taking risks for years while Sony is still playing catch up. Also one game doesn't make the difference, I saw the side by side and the quality was just as good. Forza will be 1080p and 60fps, so its capabale anyways.

Whoa....that's surprising.

Do yourself a favor and go listen to IGN's xbox podcast this week with one of Xbox head executive's Phil Spencer. He states that the gamemakers are deciding on what resolutions to use, in relation to how it looks, framerates, etc. Games are getting to 1080p on the Xbox One, but some folks are choosing lower resolutions because of the wealth of shaders, etc. that the machine can do itself. Made things a LOT clearer for me on the subject.
 

Of course. but the thing is that developer is looking the same performance when it comes to FPS. Especially in game like this, FPS is everything. They had to lower the resolution of Xbox one to get the FPS high enough. 

Don't see Forza 5 having that issue though, do you? Face it, IW have dropped the ball, to be expected though considering COD is pretty much dead creatively.

Forza 1080p   and just for fun, the Xbox 1 version of Battlefield 4 that runs at 720p looks better than the 900p PS4 version

Ryse is said to run at 900p

Link-bait , sensationalist title and article. Just wait for the game developers to come to terms with new hardware, within 1-2 years you will see excellent games at 1080p for newer hardware.

Came here to say the exact same thing, in those exact words.

+One

Also Agree Thumps Up!

Agreed.

Agrees

Totally agree...weak sauce

I saw the gameplay side by side, and i dont know how MS did it but the xbbox version looks better for me and alot people..and by the way the ps4 version is not 1080p is 900p...i saw a video about some new technology or software boost that MS develop for games using less graphic memory and giving more quality per pixels...i know the xbox ine have alot of surprises in the years to come.

Of course. but the thing is that developer is looking the same performance when it comes to FPS. Especially in game like this, FPS is everything. They had to lower the resolution of Xbox one to get the FPS high enough.  Did you see them live or on youtube? I really would not compare absolutely anything HD on a compressed youtube video.

They lowered the resolution, because they couldn't hack the extra tweaks in order to make it happen. Laziness.

No

I'm fully sold on having an X1 in my family room for all of the fucntionality it offers.  The question is, what are the other 2-3 consoles in the house going to be?  While I would love that answer to be X1, Kinect and multimedia isn't as important in these other rooms, just gaming.  So X1 has a lot to prove/overcome if it's going to have the same presence that X360 has in my house.  I've never bought a PS, but that may be the direction I have to go.  MS is rapidly losing mindshare in public.  All of my sons' X360 friends are switching to PS4 because of the botch-job MS has done so far with X1.  I'm not going to make him have an X1 in his room.  Time for MS to put up or relegate X1 to 2nd/3rd place next gen.

I'm actually happy with what you said. I've been hoping kids would be deciding to jump to ps4, to be honest. Less kids on Xbox live is a win for the rest of us! ;)

I don't want X1 to end up like WiiU from a sales perspective.  You see what kind of support that earns from developers.  So it is alarming to me to hear my son's friends are all planning to get PS4.  They are good kids and are very respectful online.

I want an xbox one but this is disappointing new. I expect more from Microsoft, they should be leading the way in every aspect not being out done by Sony. I will probably still get an X1 but i am reconsidering. Think ill try both side by side in store before making my mind up. I do like the fact the x1 is more then just games which is why it got my interest. But im a pc gamer making the transfer so i want the best for games as well. Hummm

You pretty much took the words out of my mouth!

How is it Microsofts fault that a Developer made the choice to run it at 720p. the Xbox One can easily handle 1080p - FORZA is native 1080p. The longer developlers have the hardware the better the games will get.  Take current Gen systems, games look so much better now then 8 years ago.  

It really doesn't mean anything. Y'all act like PS4 put out real graphics. They both really looks tha same, but XBONE just looks a lil sharper

1080p has 2,073,600 pixels.  720p has 921,600 pixels.  That's a difference of 2.25x, which is huge.  Of course, my $350 graphics card from 3 years ago handles all but the most intense games (BF4) at medium to high settings at 1440p, which is 3,686,400 pixels: 1.7x 1080p and 4 times 720p.  It's pathetic and shameful for a supposed next-gen console to not manage a solid 60fps at 1080p with all the bells and whistles at this point.  But this doesn't affect my purchasing decision.  MS was never in the running.

Meh, Couldnt care less about 1080p COD since my tv is only 720p still LOL.  Besides, the XB1 offers more as a living device (to me) than the ps4.  By the time my TV kicks the bucket, the rest of the game developers should be pushing all their titles in 1080p, since the XB1 can obviously handle it.

Most people won't care, and I'm getting both. Great games are to be had on both consoles and I'm sure in the not to distant future, all games on both systems will be running 1080p.

That is the smartest comment I've seen on here so far -- no silly comment like "lets see in a year which one is best, and how the Xbox One will be the best".
The article gives us some good information, and asks us "how will this affect our purchasing decisions", and you have done just that, by saying how -- respect.

I won't tell the difference since I have a 42. Inch tv.

Isn't this the same with the current Gen too? Either way I'll end up with both at some point in the next two years but I won't be buying at launch.

Gaming experience is not just about pixels. Let compare online gaming, XboxLive piss over PSN day or night.

I would consider the PS4 if i could trust the PSN network for multiplayer. (as 99% of my gaming life is multiplayer). Also, ergonomic controller would be desired to. These two elements are more essential than pixel count. (though there really is no excuse for this 720 debacle).

4K and 3D are stupid...that crap only belong in theaters, and stop scaring people. It's going to run on 1080p for the Xboxone, the video is online of it doing so side by side with PS4 and did it much better. People have been claiming that it looks better because it was on a smaller screen HDTV, and that PS4 looks better on 65". But who the hell have a 65" in every room, better yet most people don't have 65" HDTV so that's plain stupid. This is the samething with 4K TV's which only look good on 72" or bigger. I'm just happy with playing on the 42" I have already which I think is too big.

Pmsl, so true especially here in the UK, most houses over here, couldn't even fit a 65" in their living rooms -- I've seen one and the dam thing hurt my eyes it was so close.

PS4 is able to render native 1080p probably because of its GDDR5 , which I believe is running faster and hotter than Xbox One memory. We are yet to see how tolerant PS4 will be to crashes or other heat issues.

You're kidding right??? Sony, Heat issues, and crashes don't go in the same sentence. I don't know why you keep talking about that as if SONY, a Hardware Company can't make Hardware. XBOX ONE is twice as big as the PS4, but already you can't even place that thing vertically cause it will "FAIL!." Given the fact that they both have the same Hardware inside, I don't get why it is so much bigger. Even as the power supply is outside the XBOX ONE! From the leaks, I think the XBOX ONE will look and run better on the screen, but how well the HARDWARE will hold up is up in the air. I don't think they're ready,(E3 showed us why as they were using PCs instead of the console itself) I would wait for a revision. Actually, I am waiting for a revision before I invest in one. Stop spreading nonsense. Sony's devices are Quality...nuff said.

I am not spreading anything. Just my personal speculation.
The fact that Xbox One is bigger would help with cooling inside. They had to raise the CPU frequency by 10% because the system was running really cool and could easily take extra heat. PS4 is smaller and uses a faster memory. It's logical to think about how the console would resolve heating. I use Sony products myself and will be very interested in seeing how the PS4 will do.

Both consoles are rather weak, and that disappointed me greatly. The only thing that's exciting about the next generation is the awesome all-in-one that the Xbox delivers. I will move alot of my gaming to PC, and use the Xbox for casual gaming and all the other great features it gives to my livingroom.

Agree with you. They're both weaker than expected from next gen, but I'm really excited to use Skype and apps on XOne. Sad theres no WMC extender capabilities thou.

The Xbox 1 is doomed

Nah

Michael are you getting the Xbox One or PlayStation 4? Or PC?

I have my Xbox One preordered! :) #VeryExcited

Awesome!

Sigh...when will this baiting on MS end? Apple makes devices with goofy resolutions all the time and no one is complaining then, they could make a game console that's only 360p and everyone would be all over it. Likewise I don't think this is a big deal since there really isn't much of a perceptible difference between 720p and 1080p, also most TVs scale all the video to it's native resolution anyway.

I doubt (highly) that either console will run games in 4k. That will probly be reserved for bluray and videos.
This will not be effecting my decision to get the Xbox one although I do hope Microsoft and developers can get their shit together and further optimize for the hardware.

Ita a shame but honestly I don't really care, ive always wanted a PS4, based on price and specs and that's what I'll get. The Xbox one has never appealed to me.

This is no different from how when last gen launched, most PS3 titles were 720p because they didn't know how to optimize on the new console yet. Launch titles never look as good as the system can do, compare today's 360 games to some launch titles. In a year or so none of this bickering will matter and both systems will be fairly equal. I still choose Xbox One because I prefer the exclusives on that platform, and I can't wait to play Dead Rising 3.

I wasn't getting one anyways after hearing there was not going to be a cheaper Xbox media device. I have 0 interest in any high end console. I just want to be able to stream media and control TV from my Windows Phone/Surface. Oh and also play Blu-Ray. At the most maybe some little arcade style games.

And here I am happily playing my WiiU. :P
Am I the only Nintendo fan around here?

I will join you next year when Smash Bros come around :)

Given these are launch titles that never push a system to it's limits to begin with and final development tools where only recently given to some devs. I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. I would understand if every single game was 720p on the X1 and 1080p PS4 then I would believe this is a bigger issue. Nobody bothers to realize two examples BF4 and COD both went from 2-3 platforms development wise to 4-5 with a shorter amount of time optimize on next gen. Even BF4 isn't native 1080p on either systems furthers the point. Honestly if the experience is the same and just as good on either platform then slight differences in native resolution that is upscaled no less seem like a moot point to me. Combined with the fact most current Gen console games never hit native 1080p and 720p or less was more common. Honestly if COD is the only reason for one to upgrade then your better off waiting anyway since the series has been bleh since MW2 multiplayer wise and the original Black Ops campaign wise. I guess in a magical world every single launch title should max out native resolution, graphics, and features from day one on whatever platform. Realistic expectations.

Who really gives a shit about 720p vs 1080p? ABC broadcasts in 720p and I bet most people wouldn't be able to tell in a comparison.

The FUD in this is incredible. 3D 4K? No console will be doing that in the next 4 years. And 3D isn't even big at all, hell its pretty much dead.

Worst article I've read on WPC. Nice bit of sensationalism, same case as Battlefield 4 and guess what... in IGN's direct comparison the Xbox One version looks quite a bit crisper and cleaner. Bleak future? You're kidding right? All these developers are rookies on these consoles, as time goes on it's likely we see higher and higher res on X1 with high frame rates. Again, sensationalist ramblings, I thought I was reading Cinema Blend for a moment. I won't be reading any more WPC articles from this author.

Yep, I posted about these rumors here when I read them on Neogaf.   Microsoft seriously dropped the ball by making gaming a secondary function of the XBox. They're about to learn quite a hard lesson this generation.

Secondary function? LOL what a troll.

Bullcrap. The system will sell because of people invested in the ecosystem, and because of the exclusives. Most people won't notice the lower native resolution when they're running through the landscapes. Sony made their PS3 more powerful than the Xbox 360, and that did jack for them.

Dude the ps3 exclusives were much better visually than anything on the xb360.the problem for Microsoft is that not only is the ps4 more powerful its also easier to develop for

Exactly this.
  I understand the anger. If you're invested in an XBox it's all good. Provided you accept that you're paying 100 bucks more for a weaker gaming system. One way to justify it is to say you're paying for the spiffy media related features, but even then, they likely only work as advertised in the US at launch. So you're still out of luck. Ball, dropped.

I dont know man, How do you develop a system that cant play audio cds, mp3s or support DLNA at launch, i understand that the PS4 is suppose to be a gaming console, but those are all items that the PS3 supported.

I heard the reason was because of getting 60fps. I'm getting a PS4 because of the price and my friends. May get a Xbox One eventually.

Quantum Break
Halo
Sunset Overdrive
Titanfall
Killer Instinct
Ryse
Dead Rising 3 Plenty of reasons to get an Xbox One. The lower resolutions are expected with the weaker GPU but wont be an issue long term as developer tools improve. Remember the development ceiling is 1080p and no higher .. PS4 will just get there much quicker.I think both platforms will be great and I'll defo be picking up an Xbox One and later next year a PS4. But MS have my attention while they continue to offer TV shows and exclusive games I like. Since when was gaming about counting pixels?

Not a deal breaker for me as I hate cod

There's this too...

"...~~while Microsoft is trying to be a jack of all entertainment."  If they are trying to do that they are already failing. Last I heard it can't even be a WMC extender like the 360.  No Thank You to the One.

How many people use it as a WMC? Less than 1% of owners. Microsoft failed? LOL

I'm not saying that Microsoft failed, I'm saying that if they are trying to be a jack of all entertainment, why remove an entertainment feature?  That's a fail.

Better to remove an almost entirely unused feature and allocate the space to something more useful.  They should get rid of msn while they're at it

I've seen Forza 5 in the flesh running 1080p @60hz it's far and away the most impressive next-gen game on any platform. COD is just 1 poor example

It's a racing car game.  Those are always the highest rez.     I'm still buying it, but I have to say this is bullshit!  This is a next gen system and it's still pulling 720P.  Totally unacceptable in 2013!  c'mon!

"~~This is a next gen system and it's still pulling 720P"   You do realize most games on the PS3 and XB360 never hit 720P...   There is more to realism than pixels used in the target render.  They could drop the texture resolutions and reduce polygon count and get the game back up to 1080p easily.  Instead they wanted the game to look richer/real. Even in the BF4 comparisoin with the XB1 at 720 and the PS4 at 900p, the XB1 has higher quality images. Maybe the PS4 version would look better if it had a better upscaler and the game developer could drop it down to 720p without losing more detail.  

Then take it to IW, MS can get 1080p with Forza, why not IW with COD...?

Like others have said, Forza is a racing game, it's easier to hit 1080p with it.  The environment in cod is always changing, it makes 1080 harder to hit unless they make the textures look like crap.  Especially with ghost, the maps are huge in it.  Thats why BO2 looked nicer I'd imagine, much smaller maps

Dude the xb1 hardware is worse than the ps4's. Its time people wake up and stop looking at unicorns. The Xbox 1 is using a poor graphics card compared to the ps4 plus its harder to develope for. Microsoft screwed up when they decided to try and become a media center.

Thank you for adding nothing intelligent to the conversation.

LOL

LOL

They are almost identical. The biggest difference is the memory is GDDR5 (think DDR3 optimized for graphics) vs DDR3(which is optmized for programs). That and the slightly higher clock speed give the PS4 a slight, but small advantage. If games are properly optmizied for both systems you probably won't notice much of a difference. In this case it sounds like the games on the PS4 were optmized better than the XBone counterparts.

Like others have said, Forza is a racing game, it's easier to hit 1080p with it.  The environment in cod is always changing, it makes 1080 harder to hit unless they make the textures look like crap.  Especially with ghost, the maps are huge in it.  Thats why BO2 looked nicer I'd imagine, much smaller maps CPU is the same, RAM size is the same. RAM is marginally slower, GPU is marginally weaker. No super weak aspect of the xbox compared to the PS4. I'll be picking a PS4 up next year because I like the exclusives (picking up a x1 this year), but not because I think the specs are higher enough to care.

PS4 Period. Its one of the few things Sony does right.

Haha

To bad for Sony fanboys that the Xbox One still looks better. A bigger number doesn't necessarily mean a better picture.

Bigger shell doesn't mean better console

Clearly, gaming is not your department and this article has been put here just to have an Xbox post around.. The developers need more time to work with the consoles.. So no worries. It can handle 1080p.

True...this article is a bit on the wrong side. 

In order to support the instant swapping of games / TV / Skype / whatever, the OS is going to use up some processor and memory. I don't see how that could be avoided other than to use more power hardware and additional memory. They didn't and so in the near term you're going to have some of this until they learn to efficiently program for this gen. Personally, I'll take the trade-off for a box that is going to rule my living room. Obviously this is bad in the PR war (as was the hacking of the PS3 last gen) and people love to hate MS. I had both last gen, but looking at things now I will probably just do X1 (living room) and PC (real gaming) for this next gen. Sony just failed to impress me last gen.

Simple.  Add more memory then.  If the UI takes that much, then you need to add more.  It's simple fucking math.  

Says the person with no experience on the subject at all lol

You don't need expirence.  We all know computers.  If the UI requires that much more to run you don't scarifice the gaming side of it.  You add to it.  What's to understand?  

It's not as simple as just slapping more memory into the box... Ultimately it just doesn't matter.  A tiny % of people actually care about what resolution a game is going to run at.  You're hardly going to notice unless you're right up on the TV.

Microsoft is confident that once developers begin to fully utilize the console it will hit 1080p without needing to spend more on memory or processing power.  Whether that actually happens remains to be seen for another year or two.

I agree. It seems like it would be simple enough if you started out knowing that. They didn't know where Sony would land in terms of hardware and they also didn't know what COD and other top level games would need. I call that a missed opportunity though.   Last gen, everyone dogged MS because their hardware wasn't as powerful as Sony's. At the end of the day, I played most my games on the 360 because of the superior XBL. It was just more fun with the party system. Well see, but I can't help but shake my head.

So call of duty is 720p and the Xbox one displays it at 1080p ?

I don't understand people in charge at Microsoft. Did they gave a child task to design a new Xbone? It can run at 720p and we have 1080p Tv-s and will have UltraHd?? It's the same sh.... like with the phones. Averyone has 1080p, but no, Ms needs to have 720p. PS4 will crush Xbone, and of course resolution does matter. Here are first test results. PS4 is better. Read it at eurogamer Poor Ms, they are going to have their arses kicked. Ps4 will wipe the floor with Xbone in terms of selling results. Not to mention that there is no xbox live service in many little (and some big) countries where PS4 has it's PS Network.

So much immaturity in this comment. Grow up.

1981 can't be the year you were born anyway

LOL

Microsoft....... The only thing they have that i like is wp8.....and the 360

I thought it was "upscaled 720p" so pretty much 1080i ?

XBOX One Upsales everygame to 1080p no matter their native resolution be it 720p or 900p.

I mean...anyone who is "worried", or "excited", by COD being up-scaled to 1080P on the XB1 should go get a PC. All games are going to look, at least to the common (non-die-hard gamers like myself, who play games for the fun) eye, the same. And if you are really into graphics and raw power, you shouldn't be concerning yourself with the next generation consoles.

I really wish the click-bait articles would stop.  The 720p resolution has nothing to do with Microsoft or the XBox One.  It is the DEVELOPER that chooses the resolution.  If a DEVELOPER wants to rush a product out the door to be a launch title then it is their fault.  The XBox One can do 1080p so stop spreading FUD.

Actually the PS4 version runs at 900p and gets upscaled to 1080p. So we're talking about 720p vs 900p here. X1 is definitely capable of running games in 1080p, especially CoD, which is known for bad graphics (though they promise stunning graphics every year) and runs on Quake Engine from 2003. All first-party titles run at 1080p, and Forza has much better graphics than CoD (Minceraft has too). Maybe the devs hat devkits before the hardware modification on the X1, so they built the game for that. I also heard from people who played BF4 on X1 (upscaled 720p too) and PS4 (upscaled 900p too) and said they didn't even notice a difference, except that the X1 had less frame drops and richer colors. But I still fear this will be a punch in the face of X1 sales :(

You're being unduly mean to CoD in my opinion, but everything else you say is true and should be heeded. I fear you are right as far as sales go because not everyone is as clued up and rely on scraps of information to form their half-baked opinions. Editorials with irresponsible headlines like this won't help.

Cancelled my Xbox one preorder. I think drastic price changes are going to occur by next summer for the console. Right now the PS4..just offers better bang for your buck...and I'm an Xbox live user. Microsoft's trump card is their subscription offering but even that is starting to wane IMO. Having said that I still want one..just not now. And I thinks its ultimately the DEV responsibility to optimize their code and the gap will shrink over time. Still worrisome that the PS4 can just 'brute force' it. Makes you wonder if hyper V was the best choice for Xbox.

It's Infinity Ward that has screwed this up. Xbox One can run 1080p just fine, it's just that Infinity Ward doesn't know how to do a good job.  So people, don't be scared. 

Wait. So IW decided to make it 720P for X1 and 1080P for PS4? Just because?

If you read a little bit more about this, you'll find out. If others can make 1080p on XboxOne, so can IW. If you wanna know why they decided not to, you got to ask them. XboxOne is more than capable of handling it, just like PS4.

meh who cares.  CoD franchise is garbage.  for me personally, any third party games i like i get on Steam for PC anyway, so as long as exclusives run in proper HD then i'm happy (Halo).

Well I already made up my mind on ps4 for many reason, this one extra reason on the list now.

Rubish game = rubish resolution

Rubish console=Xbox 720

The title surely is baiting people. I little more research on the writers part, could have penned I better story. For one, yes COD will only be running at 720p on the X1. That could be for a variety of reasons, one of them NOT being a lack of power. Consider Forza 5 for that reason, running natively at 1080p, with many high level features, physics engines and so on. How could it be that Turn 10 can accomplish this goal, yet the X1 somehow is doomed because COD couldn't pull it off? Did anyone care to research anything? Not to say the developers at Activision aren't capable, they may of had different time constraints (releasing on multi-platforms and next-gen consoles), so time could have been an issue. What's better, releasing a game running bad, but can tout 1080p resolution or dropping the resolution, to achieve a better gameplay experience? I would put money on the experience. Even though this could be seen as disappointing news or bad, its clearly not indicative of the X1's future. There are games running natively at high resolution and more to come. When the Xbox 360 released there weren't games running at 1080p, not even 720p, so what again is the big deal? Look where we are now in regards to game quality from 7 years back. Its a different world. Basically, pick the console you want, will enjoy and fits your gaming lifestyle. In the end, it'll all be the same.

Dude, again, you can't compare racing games to FPS.  Racing games always look amazing and run at the highest rez because there's not alot going on screen.  

Really? Please sir, tell me why Forza is the only racing game on Xbox 360 that can run at 60 FPS?   Surely it must be easy.

Dude BF4 runs 720p on Xbox one and 900p on PS4 so since neither run 1080p natively for that game they are both garbage systems?  What ExTrAbUta is saying is that the Xbox one is more than capable of running 1080p DEVELOPERS are choosing the resolution for what they want the game to look like while running 60fps.   

O'kay, so COD dev thinks that running 720P on the X1 and 1080P is best for each system, correct?  Why not run them both at 1080P?   Explain that?  

I am not a developer its anybodys guess, i would like to believe its to get 60fps.  what i am saying is other developlers are getting games to run at 1080p and some aren't.  Why is BF4 not running 1080p on either system, my guess is for the best looking performance they could manage for it to be available at launch of each system.  Plus resolution isnt everything when it comes to gaming.  If i wanted the best graphics i would get a 2000 dollar gaming PC.

Agreed, but it's perception. 

You don't even need $2000. $500 will be okay and anything above that(depending on what parts you get) will do even better.

Microsoft is confident that once developers begin to fully utilize the console it will hit 1080p without needing to spend more on memory or processing power.  Whether that actually happens remains to be seen for another year or two.
Go tell COD devs to run the game in 4k HD. They could probably manage it. Have fun at 5fps though.

Exactly. It has nothing to do with the type of game, genre, style or look. I can argue that a racing game has just as many things happening on screen, at speed mind you, the a FPS has. What I am pointing at, as was reiterated, is that these developers are solely in control of how these games will turn out. There are PLENTY of games on either PS3 or Xbox 360, that look horrible, play horrible and are nut good experiences. But, on the other hand we have Halo 4s and Last of Us that go against that same idea. I could judge either systems merits in the game that doesn't push its hardware and we would come to the same conclusion that their not that great. Its why the good developers are the ones being bought up by the companies as first-party and others continue to struggle. The power is there, its up to the developers to use it. Just to throw in a reference to a FPS, I am not skilled at shooting a high powered weapon, so an AR-15 in my hands would look terrible and perform bad. Would that be a testament to the capabilities of the weapon? Or would it be because its in the wrong hands or not being utilized to its potential? The same can then be said for a high powered sports car. If you dint know what your doing on a racetrack, a Ferrari or Lotus Exige will post a horrible lap time, probably matched by something like a Toyota Camry. Would that mean that the cars themselves and their companies have no clue how to build exotic, high performing vehicles? Or is it that the driver doesn't know how to exploit its abilities?

I don't think people are misunderstanding the issue. I think the Author's intent of the article was to scorn. Some are having doubts about the resources the UI is using.

This article is ridiculous. Predicitng the whole future on an unreleased console just because a launch title is running lower resolution than the competition. Maybe it has something to do with the developer and not MS...

If I actually cared about COD I'd care but as long as by the time I get one it runs Halo 5 at 1080p. Or a next Gen Gears of War. I'm sitting on sidelines for a bit tho while kinks are worked out

After the amazing graphics of Halo 4 on 360 I can only imagine what Halo 5 will look like.

Seriously guys? Future looks bleak? Bit premature. 900p native for Ryse which is easily one of the best looking next gen games and a launch title doesn't quite agree with your article.

Haha yup i would agree that game is Gorgeous!

Really? An article like this on WPCentral? Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy about it and yes, MS needs to seriously tweak their developer tools. But do we remember what the 360 looked like at launch compared to current games? The machine is plenty powerful enough and when developers have time to develop a full title on it instead of cramming a port into the launch window things will be fine. I expect overly dramatic articles like this on sites like IGN, not WPCentral. Future looks bleak....sheesh. Even BF4 is running at 900p on the PS4. Not every game is going to nail it at launch.

Personally this bothers me very little. Def not enough to sway my pre-order decision. PS3 and 360 had very little difference depsite PS3 being more powerful. The only games you'll notice these differences are on exclusives. My decisions were actually based on the overall value of the system. While gaming is key to me, it was actually all of the other features outside gaming that sealed the deal for me. I see PS4 as literally just a gaming system. Which to many ppl is the whole point of their purchase. But as a gaming enthusiast that already owns a 360, PS3, PS Vita, gaming desktop PC, Alienware laptop, Windows 8.1 tablet and a WP I literally have 100's of games pouring out of my ears. So another system that JUST plays games isn't that exciting for me. Especially when it will be essentlally what Xbox 1 has. Besides, the visuals will be VERY similar each console despite the hardware differences. 

Well said.

I agree, but preception is a killer.  People expect certain things when they pay a 100 dollar premium over PS4.  They at least expect the same kind of game play on both.

It's funny how often you mention perception, especially when nearly this entire article and all its negative comments are in relation to a nearly imperceptible difference in resolution between consoles. If you can really see that big of a difference between 720p and 1080p resolutions, you are sitting waaaay too close to your screen... with a magnifying glass.

Microsoft is confident that once developers begin to fully utilize the console it will hit 1080p without needing to spend more on memory or processing power.  Whether that actually happens remains to be seen for another year or two.
A lot of that 100$ goes into the kinect packaged with the console. Kinect might suck now, but who knows? Maybe devs will start to consider it a bit more now that every x1 owner will have one. Voice commands on the 360 kinect are already kind of amusing.

They're going to be relying on cloud computing, so the future isn't so bleak when it could literally have unlimited potential.

Also chaps, if you dig about a little there are reports of the XB1 dev kits being updated regularly as they weren't exactly optimized. Plus you have an easier to develop for PS4. Article is surely bait...

Also bf4 doesn't run at native res on xbone OR ps4. Maybe Sony fans should also be scared, or maybe people cannot harness the power yet

Perhaps the author forgot a /s tag in the headline or something. This kind of flamebait article isn't typical of wpcentral. Weird.

Yes, very odd.

Agree.

amen. weird and dissapointing. almost as if the site was hacked and this article found its way in. Is this a regular author on this site? not familiar with him.

Getting an xbox one. All things considered the coders got the look they wanted with the tradeoffs in the right place with 720p. Esram and all kinds of novel stuff ms have done take time to find the sweet spot. I'll bet it looks amazing. The matchmaking and services around it on xbox live will be better.

Blah blah who cares, that's not why i picked the xbone. Games are important, but it runs deeper than resolution.

They are stuck now.  It appears that all the talk about the XBox not having a powerful enough GPU is a fact.  They apparently just went too cheap on components. I believe they should announce a high performance version immediately, and then drop the price on this version to $299.00 just to clear out stock.  They should also announce a trade in program for anyone with the original version. I know they "allowed" Don Mattrick to leave for Zynga right after the announcement, but he may need to go down as the biggest idiot in IT history.  

Good analysis. They should definitely hire you instead.

Microsoft is confident that once developers begin to fully utilize the console it will hit 1080p without needing to spend more on memory or processing power.  Whether that actually happens remains to be seen for another year or two.
The GPU is weaker than the PS4, but only barely so. The difference isn't as large as you make it out to be.

If I wanted gazillions pixels I'd get a PC which could trump any console, a contemporary living room entertainment box must excel in social/media functions. Love Xbox.

In that respect, you could also get a media center PC that wouldn't be restricted by file formats and have access to more apps than what MS or Sony think you will need and use. There is no point in even buying an expensive weak PC.

Aaaaand this is why I play on a PC...

I would like to point out some MAYJOR LIMITATIONS on the PS4, a least at launch. Customize your storage space… sort of. The good news is that the PS4, much like the PlayStation 3 before it, makes it easy to swap out the included 500GB hard drive for another one. It’s got to be a SATA II hard drive with a minimum capacity of 160GB and a maximum thickness of 9.5mm, but those are the only restrictions. What you won’t be able to do is supplement the included 500GB drive with an attached external drive of any size; the PS4 does not support USB-connected external drives.   Not an ideal music player or streaming box. The PS4′s disc drive supports both DVD and Blu-ray, but it won’t play any audio CDs. The console also won’t be able to read and play any MP3s, though that matters little in light of the fact that you can’t connect any external storage drives. What’s more, the PS4 won’t be usable as a media server, meaning you won’t be able to stream audio/video content to it from a computer on the same local network.

  Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/playstation-4-ultimate-faq-answers-many-questions-closes-many-doors/#ixzz2jKfizJwX
   

Don't even bother trying to educate consumers. People only tend to care when its against MS. And where MS has the upper hand, people hardly mention it.

Got smart tv so don't care what ps4 can' do.wont to play games not to takl to some stupid big brick as xbox 720p is

Can we go back to phone talks now as the name of the site implies; WINDOWSPHONE CENTRAL? Thank you.

Dont know if youve noticed.  They kind of follow all things Microsoft  around here.  Its nice. 

Without branching out and researching the facts presented in this article, I'm still confused by the wording.  Are the two games mentioned specifically not supporing 1080p on XB1 or is it really that the XB1 doesn't support it?  The latter is how I intepret the meaning of this article - a meaning that is definitely not good news.  On the other hand, if the game doesn't support [it] on XB1 well that is the game's problem as detrimental as it may be to fans of the franchises.

The Xbox One supports 1080p. Don't let this FUD article confuse you, that's what it's meant to do. Create Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.

Yeah, thanks that is what I figured. I did a quick search and discovered that it can support 1080p, but just like many games on current gen hardware, games often come at lower res and are upscaled... and to that extent, some games will be published that dont natively come at 1080p but will at least be upscaled to it.  This is an issue for developers not the platform if the platform supports it. Doi!  People, come on - the reporting should include some of this for good measure lest people get their impression from one article (and not peruse comments).

These are cross platform games. BF4 and COD. They dont have the time, willingness and resources to port over correctly for he XBONE.

And now its on here?!?
Why do people care?!? If you REALLY care about 720p/1080p argument, why not get a PC....... But just to add, its strange how Forza 5 can run 1080p 6fps though.... Surely its done to the devs to pull their finger out?!?

Bleak? I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Nope still getting one

This is bad, this is bad.

Upscale? Upscale no thats crap its NO where near as good or the same as native 1080P This is just another blow to Microsoft which makes NO sense to consumers. Next Gen is NOT 720P. 1080p, 4K and beyond is NEXT GEN Not happy with the way Microsoft handled the Xbox One for so many reasons & I am still going to buy an Xbox One.  I personally dont play Call of Duty

I am dissapointed in not having ALL launch games run at 60 FPS and 1080p. Even Dead Rising 3 will only be 30 FPS (not sure about the resolution). Up to a few weeks ago Dead Rising still had some pretty horrible frame rate issues too though they have supposedly been sorted out now. I hope to hell the damn Kinect isnt taking too much power from the main system and causing some of these issues as I really have no use for it and most likely never will.

In terms of specs the consoles aren't that far apart. Between X360 and PS3 there was a larger gap and it was even larger between XBOX and PS2. So this seems like a case of developers needing to get familiar with the hardware.   And who says we're heading into the lands of 4K? The standard is set my the majority, not by the product leader. Lastgen Xbox 360 was considered part of the majority so developers considered it as well. If the Xbox One performs reasonably then it too will decide the standard. The PS4's power will remain largely unused as happened to the PS3 and XBOX before it.   I'm not choosing a console anytime soon but I'm more excited for the Xbox One because its more than just gaming.

Counting the hours down til I can pick up my Xbox One. This will not impact my decision at all.

I've become alarmingly addicted to all of the Next Gen console stuff. I have also admittedly been a staunch Xbox One supporter. Sony hasn't even appeared on my radar. Up, until recently. I understand that consoles take some "getting used to" to produce good results. However, out of the gate the PS4 is out performing it. Plain and simple. Numbers don't lie. While resolutions may not matter to some, it does matter to a lot of people. As someone posted above, don't get a next-gen console if resolution is the end all be all for you. Get a PC. The PC I would want would cost me more money than I have at the moment. Hell, the Xbox One is going to cost me more money than I have. $500 is not something that I just have falling out my pockets and my wife and I do very well for ourselves. I think the main reason for the discourse is, why? When you attach a price that is $100 more than your competion to something that is inferior, (even if it has a camera) it begs the question as to why? I personally don't understand it. All the hyperbole from PR "Talking-Heads" won't be able to make it clear for me either. I get that it is a set-top media box, and I am all in for that. The PS4 will be releasing with severly gimped media functions. Which begs the question as to why is Sony's box $400? It is also using old and out of date hardware. Is it the memory? No. Sony can buy enough to drive the prices down to levels we will never see if we were to purchase it. As I watch all of this unfold on the internet like some "Twisted Nerd Soap-Opera" I can't help but think if it is all really worth it? Will this be the last generation of consoles? Why would MS faulter so badly on design? Why is Sony releasing such a gimped product? It isn't like gamers are quiet. We're a fairly vocal group, that has a ton of disposable income. Didn't these companies listen to any of us? I will be getting a Xbox One as I've already invested a ton into the Windows eco-system. I just don't know anymore if it will be Day One or if it will be next year.  

"With Microsoft’s Xbox One costing $100 more than the Sony PlayStation 4, and supposedly having a 10 year lifespan, the fact that the new console can’t handle launch titles in 1080p is a major concern." I agree with this statement...its not a matter of X1 upscaled looking better than Ps4 version, its the fact that the X1 couldnt run at 60 FPS in 1080p...for a LAUNCH title is not a good sign. Thankfully im waiting a year or so before deciding whether ill get an X1 or not, since ill definitely not get a PS4. I have both a 360 and Ps3, will not be doing that agagin next gen...big waste of money. My ps3 is a bluray player that was used to enjoy Last of Us and GoW3...thats it.

No where does it say the One CAN'T do it. It just says that the game is in 720

Just my 2 cents - comparing this to launch titles from previous gen is stupid, because this time it's not new hw architecture. Both PS4 and X1 are essentially PCs and very similar at that. I would think them nearly identical in their capabilities so would not take this as any indication of superiority of one over the other.

Im getting ps4

I mean this is supposed to be next gen and we are still upscaling to 1080P?   Seriously.  This is bad, bad, bad.   Like X1 needed anymore bad news. 

Isn't this the same issue the 360 faced with Halo? Many years later, we see how that "disadvantage" played out

Yeah, but this is launch.  Two systems are launching at the same time.  One is more expensive and does less.  It's crazy stupid on MS.  

What is the connection between this article and the windows phone???

I personally get a trip on the posts of Who cares and  I can't see the difference anyway.... Sure, take your money and not get everything you expect.  It's almost like buying a High end sports car and getting a little baseline v6 in it, sure it will go and have a little pep but, not exactly what you paid top dollar for.   For real, This is the NEXT GEN console, the MOST EXPENSIVE Next gen console, THAT IS NOT EVEN RELEASED YET, Not only should you want the best graphics possable, YOU SHOULD EXPECT IT.   You are the only going to pay $500+ tax for your console ($531 for me), then another $60 for the game, never mind all the other extras you addon to it. You should expect the best gaming experiance available RIGHT NOW, 1080p IS that.   This should of been adressed before the lauch titles were even posted. Microsoft MUST of knew about this a while ago, Why did they not say anything and let the publisher say it a few weeks before the console release ????   Microsoft BETTER make a public statement on this and give everyone the reason for one of the top selling AAA games over the year, on the newest Next gen console is only a 720p game...   There is a HUGE outrage about this all over the net. As I agree 6 months from now, no one will care (once all games at 1080p or higher) but, as of now, right before everyone is spending their money, they should adress this NOW.

Then you know very little. Neither next gen console is powerful compared to pc. So why buy a console ever? Your argument is nonsense.

you are a moron. Fine, let MS take all your money and not give you want you expected and actually deserve.

Well I doubt people will get this far down in the comments to read this... But Im just gonna say 2 thing and I am gonna keep it very Generic so that I do not break any NDA's... 1. Unless Sony has something MAJOR that they have not told the public about (or their developers for that matter), then the XB1 will be blowing it out of the water in user experience... And I do not just mean in terms of TV functionality, and multitasking... I mean in games... Personally I really hope that Sony does have something up their sleves, as it would be great for competition. But if so they are not telling their Devs... 2. My Dev XB1 has no trouble outputing 1080p even without optimized code (I could not find anything about talking about resolution in the Microsoft NDA, and if so the COD people broke the NDA FIRST!!!) I cant speak for the PS4, they didnt give me a Dev unit...

If you are legit this actually made me feel a whole lot better.  

100% legit... If i could tell you more without getting my pants sued off I would. What microsoft has done is pure INNOVATION. Again I am not a PS4 hater, but what Microsoft has done is pure gold. Microsoft may screw things up from time to time, but this is not one of those times.

This is definitely something that makes me feel better as well.  I was never not going to cancel or change my pre order from and XBOX ONE just nice to hear this.  Especially with all the hate its getting.

That is the main reason I posted it, I dont want people to feel like a maginally better CPU and GPU will make any difference in the long run (It didnt last Gen)... I was one of the few Indy Dev's to get invited to thier conference on 10/25/13 (last Friday)...   There is so much more I would like to say... And to be honest I dont really understand Microsoft letting Sony drag their name through the mud this close to the launch date, but they must have their reasons...

Right i have also wondered why microsoft is just taking it!  Whatever thier reasons i guess we will have to wait and see.  Once again thanks for the information.  Really appreciate it.

You are more than welcome!

Wow!  Thanks for the input!

Getting Ps4.don't wanna put ugly brick as xbox under my smart tv.BTW my tv can do everything what xbox do

Thanks for the Info! 

You have to understand that you can say this all you want however you're a "French Model" to me. I hope what you're saying is true, I honestly do. I hardly want to waste my money on something that will be obsolete in a few years time.

I totally understand what you are saying, and I do not expect blind accpetence to what Im saying... Just wait until after launch before buying a console and you will see what I mean... EDIT: Oh ya, btw Im not a French Model ;)

Given that you have a Xbox Dev kit...I didn't think you were! LMAO. Thanks for the info...even a little uplifting news for all things Xbox is nice to hear. I can't help but shake the feeling Sony is paying forum posters to muckrake the hell of MS and Xbox. There is so much negativity surrounding the whole project.  

I dont know anything about Sony doing what you proposed. But I totally agree that I dont understand the ultra negativity surrounding the XB1. Hardware for both is gonna be great, but IMHO Microsoft has proved they know what they are doing with Xbox Live over the last generation, where as Sony has struggled very hard to say even remotely relevant with PSN. As a developer I know where my resources are going first, and then provided that PS4 can accomodate my game's design I will probably eventually port it over...

Oh, I would have no evidence to support my comment. I have honestly never seen such a negative vibe surrounding something something as big as this. I was an Xbox Live beta tester years ago, I think I was one of the first 1000 or something like that. I remember feeling how cool it was to play Re-Volt against 8 other people! Using a headset...playing Payton Manning football...was an incrdible leap to the future for me. Over the years Xbox Live has always advanced, also shown growth, and IMHO always given the proper "bang for your buck" regardless of a paywall or not. I wish you luck on your game! Thanks for the positive posts!  

I guess this is a major topic for some. A lot of the titles were upconverted to 1080p did they still look good? Yes, sure people would like that bragging factor because fanboys will be fanboys. If the game is good I will enjoy it no matter of resolution or graphics. This is CoD though and that is a different argument in itself. Do 1080p games get me to buy a console? No, Fresh ideas and gameplay.

I am not a gamer, but this seems like a non issue to me. Also, could it be that the code is not yet optimized to run on the Xbox One, while it is on the PS4? Maybe a future software update will solve the issue?

They should have just made it in 480p... Looks just as good as 720p right?...WRONG!!!!

Little disappointed, these tiny things can annoy many customers.
X1 is still mine, but MS needs to go all out in all sides of entertainment.

You know how we still all wax lyrical about NBA Street: Homecourt on 360, how good it looks? You know, because it was one of the only 1080p games? NBA Street. I think it was back in 2006 ish. No? Yeah that's what I thought. No-one even remembers that game, let alone bangs on about the fidelity of it's graphics. What the fuck does it matter? If resolution was the be-all and end-all of gaming then PC gaming would've wiped consoles of the map by now. So it makes me angry that people who claim to be gamers find this to be a critical concern. It is a misplaced priority that is indicative of the mentality of the casual gamer, a simplistic and inexperienced view of what makes games consoles great, and one of the reasons why I chose the Xbox brand over Playstation as my sole interest after many years of loving both. A Sony fanboy would happily stare at white noise for hours if you told them it was 1080p. As anyone who really knows about games knows, there are pros and cons to each console, such as fundamental features and capabilities and surely, most importantly; the exclusive games available for each, that far outweight this triflingly noobish matter. This is nothing but a little flag for those (usually) casual gamers we call Sony fanboys to pathetically wave while I'm playing Titanfall, streaming my music and watching the game all at once on my One. I couldn't care less.

Wow.. I think I'm going to just buy a next gen console, play games, and have fun. 

Once you start playing the game, and you start focusing on your target, moving around and such, you will hardly see the difference between the two.

The beginning of the 360s life cycle it also didn't run at 1080p until a later update. For me this is not an issue. It will be resolved. I refuse to by a PS4 no matter how much smoke Sony blows up my ass.

This isn't a 360 though, its supposed to be a next gen console. Poor call from Microsoft, this should be 1080p out the box.

Microsoft cant handle one business of Xbox SkyDrive Office and ppl want Nokia to be sold to Microsoft to send one more legend to garbage like Skype...

Sayyy whaaaaatttt?

If this such a big deal for you guys to warrant 3 paragraph comments, maybe you should save yourself $500+ on the X1 and just get a PC and a $100 mid range video card and join us in the 21st century.

Don't forget that Microsoft overclock the Xbox gpu. Those games are developed without this.. I preorder a Xbox, if it does work well I will return

It's a launch title.. These things are to be expected.. Launch titles are typically lackluster because developers haven't totally learned how to get the most from the hardware and the games are typically rushed to make the launch deadline.. The problem for the Xbox One is compounded because it is slightly more difficult to develop for than the PS4, so since the PS4 is easier to develop for, the PS4 provided better results when those previously mentioned constraints are factored in.. Look back at the multiplatform games for the PS3 versus the Xbox 360.. The PS3 was way more difficult to develop for and as a result, multiplatform games tended to look and play better on 360.. Over time, as developers figured out the PS3 architecture, the games eventually started to look the same on both platforms.. And the PS3 was DIFFICULT to develop for.. The Xbox One isn't "difficult" to develop for, the PS4 is just easier to develop for at the moment.. So it won't take very long for these problems to be resolved.. Xbox One games should look basically even with PS4 offerings before long as developers learn to get more from the system... As a matter of fact, both consoles will have increasingly better performing games in the coming months and years.. It's just that the Xbox One will still have the arguably better online gaming infrastructure, UI dashboard, and multimedia offerings when compared to the PS4 which is why I personally prefer Microsoft's console.

Its not good at this stage as the "war" is always hottest before both arrive. Question is, is this a barrier forever? Will no game ever hit 1080p on XB1? Or, like most cycles, as time progresses so does the developers skill. Looking at xbox 360 v Xbox 1 games like AC IV they look identical. That's never right, I feel for about 3 yes, we'll see sub par games visually until this gen ends... However short answer "still getting XB1?" "YES"

I'm sticking with Xbox One. Especially after seeing Halo 4 being played through the cloud on a phone. MS have been saying the power of the cloud can make your Xbox One 4x more powerful. Being in its infancy at the moment though they will be struggling to show the full power of it. I think 5 years down the line this cloud will start becoming more and more relevant to the performance of the Xbox One. Especially when it comes to multiplayer games. When you look at these comparison video's too, it's pretty clear on the BF4 one that Xbox has more detailed textures. Why is that? Especially when PS4 has the RAM better equipped to deal with textures. I think all these differences just boil down to PS4 being easier to develop for off the bat with maybe more finalised drivers. This time next year will be the time to really compare the consoles on graphical prowess. All we know now is that Xbox easily outweighs the PS4 in functionality and scope. If all you want is graphics then PC is the real answer. They're already able to run graphics hungry games at 2160p 120FPS.

Honestly, if you want to base your purchasing decisions on counting pixels, have at it. I'm going to buy the games I love, on the console I love. All the PS4 fans can lord this over me if they want and I couldn't care less. I'm buying the system with the the biggest conveniences, dedicated servers for any game that wants it, etc. Sitting 10+ feet away you won't notice a difference between a million more pixels, unless you have a fairly large TV. Developers have yet to fully understand the hardware and how to optimize, so I don't see this as a long-term problem anyway.

As for the "get a PC" comments... Ok, point taken, yes PC is the best I agree, but I am a console gamer. I don't like playing games on a PC just like you wont use a console. Each to their own. No doubt PC rules and rules big time..but I use a console..sorry

graphics don't sell games or consoles, experience does, and the xbox one can deliver that in bucket loads. besides if you're too far away from your tv you can't tell the difference between 1080p and 720p... i can't and i'm 5ft from my 47" tv...

If you are a non-expert in computer graphics, and you're not looking at the two side-by-side, I seriously doubt you'd notice any difference. The problems with flexing graphics muscles on next-gen consoles this time around are that (1) we're well into the point of diminishing returns now, where even an Xbox One with 8x the power of the 360 doesn't look miles ahead of the current gen COD, and (2) it's no longer delivering not-before-seen graphics quality, since the next-gen consoles are equivalent to mid-range PC rigs. Personally I find XB1's emphasis on new UX paradigms and home media integration to be much more appealing. Last gen I went with the PS3 on a similar promise, with the integrated blu-ray drive and DNLA support, and am happy I did.

Killer Instinct!!!!

4k gaming will not be a thing on this next generation of consoles.  4k movie file sizes will be over 100GB.  Games? HUNDREDS of gigabytes.  Does anybody honestly expect this to happen?  Not to mention the fact that neither the XBOX One nor the PS4 will be able to handle running titles rated for 4k at high enough FPS.   My own PC with better specs than either console struggles running 2560x1600 with frames higher than 30.  The hardware is simply not there yet. Oh, and before someone says something about streaming, you had better be using Google Fibre, otherwise you're SoL. 3D 4k was never an option either. TL;DR: Microsoft probably meant the XBOX One will support Solitaire in 4k.

Compare perfect dark on 360 to crysis 3... Its just early releases on a game that has been designed on current/next gen... Forza5 is pure mextgen.. What ever console you get you will enjoy. I have xb1 and f5, cod, bf4 and ass4 ordered.. Will pick up a ps4 at a later date when team ico game comes out

All i say is Titanfall.

With 4K TVs becoming popular long before the ten year lifecycle for these consoles is up I can't figure out why they would launch such hampered devices. I guess I will just stick with my more performant and cheaper gaming PC.

"~~With Microsoft’s Xbox One costing $100 more than the Sony PlayStation 4, and supposedly having a 10 year lifespan, the fact that the new console can’t handle launch titles in 1080p is a major concern" Exaclty. I'm shocked abouit this. I was hoping the X1 would entice me into buying my first console in a while but I defintely wont be rushing in to to buy either of the next gens until I see how the chips fall.

I don't understand all this freaking out because of one game. The PS4 PORT GOES UP TO 900p. So BOTH next-gen ports will have their resolutions upscaled to 1080p, so the PS4 is not doing real 1080p either. Why ain't anyone also bitching about the PS4?

I pre-order the ONE. If I don't like I will return it.

XB1. PS4 seems to be a duct taped together PS 3.5. No CD, DLNA or Media streaming. No cloud services or gamer policing and much more. Sony rushed to get the PS4 out and it shows. Also Sony is struggling financially and the PS4 owners need to be concerned. XB1 will play 1080p games. I'm not worried. The number of Sony PS4 whiners appear more worked up at this than anyone. They're the worst.

thar's another ression why: PC > consoles

That's right, they're bigger, need more power and more components! Lol, jk =P

When you just look at the words its easy to make judgments but until you see the real world results...I think I can understand how Microsoft is operating their stuff so I'm not dissuaded and look forward to seeing the experience first hand!

Lets not also forget that it's not exclusive to the next ten consoles so of course they may not get 100% pure glass...but that don't matter, is the game play and everything else sound?

at the xbox E3 show didnt COD dev  bang on about the game being 1080p 60fps

I'm sure it was just a matter of IW not having time to optimize the game to run at 1080p/60fps. They probably had to draw a line in the sand 6-8 months ago (based on what MS and Sony had given them at that time) for both consoles and stick to that.

Read this piece on Ars http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/10/op-ed-why-im-not-too-worked-up-abo... The resolution does not matter unless like many digitial photographers, your pixel peeking and then your nose better be up by the screen.

I can buy a Roku for $100 and it will offer much of the entertainment the Xbox One will deliver besides the gaming. I really had high hopes for the Xbox one, but I am leaning towards the PS4. Why pay more for less when I can get more for less with the PS4.

Very, very surprising.. Glad i decided to go with ps4 first

This is the kind of article title I expect from Engadget or The Verge. NOT WPCentral.

I've got a pile of unplayed games for my 360 to keep me going well into the launch window. Were the Xbox One backwards compatible with the 360 I'd buy one as I did nearly eight years ago with my beloved console (still on the launch model, still no RROD!) Neither Sony's nor Microsoft's consoles have a killer title to make me buy it. Xbox had Halo, 360 didn't have a single stand out (other than Geometry Wars) but had an otherwise fantastic launch lineup. Tbh, the console to be playing this Xmas if you're truly a gamer seems to be the Wii U and that is no powerhouse of technology.

Oh no here we go.. Xb1 sucks .jeez. Really?

It's a total non-issue and I highly doubt it's a limitation of the XBone

Not a limitation, not next gen either! I want something different...

90% of the average consumer cannot tell the difference. Plus, there is more to gaming graphics than just resolution. This is more akin to the classic NVIDIA vs AMD battle. Each one will excel at certain games and lag in others. For all we know they made this game for the PS4 and converted to the Xbox One. If a publisher would do it the other way around, it might have the opposite effect.

Lol yet the PS4 can't use media servers via DLNA, play MP3's or Audio CDs. What's is this, 1986?

Just to bring it back to what thus site us supposed to be about. Samsung Galaxy S4 high spec, Nokia 925 lower spec. Which would you rather use?

Multiplayer online gaming would be better on Xbox One with 300,000 Azure servers.

Its still a higher resolution than the Xbox 360, which ran at 600p I believe

No

We are seeing the birth of anti-marketing. Samsung was caught paying journalist to bad mouth competitors. No doubt all this hoopla about XO is coming from Sony. I know ppl hate MS but this is unreal. There was NO WHERE NEAR this negativity when Halo 3 ran at 540P and other games. Journalism is dead

This is the first article I read on this site that is very, very weak with the facts and details pertaining to the news being reported. Let me explain and hopefully some of you read this. THIS IS NOT LIMITATION DUE TO XBOX. This is just the developers, call it lazy or w.e its the developers, period. Another thing misleading in the article, Battlefield 4 for PS4 will run at 900p only COD will be native 1080p at launch. To say "and supposedly having a 10 year lifespan, the fact that the new console can’t handle launch titles in 1080p is a major concern" the console can definitely handle it, it is THE DEVELOPERS. Heres the tweet from Mark Rubin of CoD franchise "but wanted to confirm that for Xbox One we’re 1080p upscaled from 720p. And, we’re native 1080p on PS4. We optimized each console to hit 60 FPS and the game looks great on both" Now on to battlefield 4, this is from Eurogamer report "[T]he actual results on PS4 lack the corresponding level of crystal clarity we’d expect of such a significant resolution boost,” Thomas Morgan of Digital Foundry writes. “This should surely be a home run for Sony’s console, but what is likely to be a software-based upscale to 1080p delivers less-than-stellar returns, and for better or worse leaves the Xbox One with an often crisper looking, albeit much more aliased image" So no this is NOT another 'pro' for PS4 fans at all lol and same thing with Ryse, it is because of the DEVELOPERS that they have decided to code at 900p. I really would have expected much better on this report from windows phone central, I read this on another site last night and that's where I got all my info. I ain't getting none of the new consoles but I just had to point out the truth so misleading information doesn't get spread.

Who cares? Neither 360 nor PS3 rendered many games at native 1080p, either. Hell, many didn't even hit 720p native. And yet, both consoles produced tons of gorgeous games. Native rendering resolution is *irrelevant *. That said, I wouldn't buy either system at launch anyway.

Your report sounds mis-leading as the hardware supports 4k for the future. It is up to devs to deliver games over time which they seem committed to doing for Xbox. I'm buying the Xbox mostly because I like the interface, watch Netflix, listen to Xbox music, and stream content from my computer. I also like the voice control.

No.. It won't affect my decision to purchase the Xbox One!!

I'm still getting an XONE at launch. I can't wait!! Not even, I can't wait for this time next year, Halo 5!

If you're sitting 2ft from the TV you 'might' notice.  The average player at the average distance of a few feet (couple of meters) won't be able to tell. It's being made into a bigger issue than it really is.   Overall value trumps a few extra lines of resolution any day of the week.

Also, isn't this more on the devs than on MS. 1080p titles will be available.  Then again, people will complain about MS any chance they get. :P

Sorry Sony wins again.

Wow... Stunned

HAHAHAH, I laughed at this flame war so hard. Please stop this, we are all grown-ups, or at least I believe so. Fact is, the PS4 is more powerful, so it's no doubt that games run better on PS4. PS: And the EYE camera of the PS4 is more advanced (and more expensive) than the Kinect. It is sold at $60, while a similar one we have for experiment costs whooping $2000. PPS: The reason why some games were ported poorly to PS3 before, because the SDK was tricky. Sony learned their lesson with the PS4.

I watched a video of BF4 single player game play from Xbox one today and it looked sick. Next Gen graphics are pretty amazing already imo. Ps4 and Xb1 will barely be any different In how games look, but they will however be very different in terms of software, online experience, and multimedia abilities. XB1 looks to dominate there.

I haven't had time to read all the comments.... But, even though this is a more or less Microsoft oriented web site, I must say the title of this article is a bit over dramatic. It ignores alot of things, like Microsoft doing last minute upgrades and drivers were late to be updated etc... Devs had to cut corners to meet launch because of these issues. It's a fact. Look at Ryse, it's arguably the best looking game of any next Gen system. Some people argue that BF4 actually looks better on XB1. And that's with early issues and all. This system is going to be great. Launch games hiccups are hardly an indication of long term "bleakness".

The future is bleak? Really? wow, this coming from a Windows site. Dissapointing that a click-bate headline like this made it through the editorial staff of WPCentral. It's one game. and seeing the side by side, the X1 looked better to my eyes. Plus I read other sites stating that the PS4 version will be running at 900P, (not 1080P) the same as Ryse. Not so random. Being a WP site, the author of this site, more than any other site, should understand that specs dont tell the whole story of a product. Its how its optimized. There is plenty of power in the xb1. To call the future bleak based on one game is absolutely ridiculous and frankly unprofessional. If MS came out and said that no games would run in 1080p, then yes, this headline might make sense. but again, its one game released in the beginning stages of the next gen era. Unreal and dissapointing article from this site.

i stand corrected... 900P was for Battlefield 4. but my arguement remains the same. the nextgen era has just begun and he's basing his headline on one game and its native resolution (upscaled to 1080p). "~~the fact that the new console can’t handle launch titles in 1080p is a major concern." Actually, the fact that this is a NEW console makes this a NON-ISSUE. ITS a LAUNCH title on a NEW system. Make an arguement 6 months from now. Make an arguement when both systems are actually released with real games released and real games compared side by side. Even on the current sidebyside, both games looked equally impressive and some even say the xb1 looked sharper with more detail. Its all about the optimizations and compromises and there are compromises on both sides.

Seems odd that it runs at 720p since the xbone and ps4 have similar gpu's. Lets hope its just a porting issue and not a console issue. With 4k tvs coming a 720p native res console is going to get dated quick. I'm getting both consoles so no biggy but hope Microsoft hasn't drop the ball on this gen.

if the X1 was the same price as the PS4 it wouldnt be an issue for me. But its $100 more and with it doing 720 wheres the incentive to get this? for $500 I dont want my game upscaled to 1080.

The PS4 can't even play music CD's, can't play mp3's, doesn't support DLNA.... And these are launch games. Microsoft did last minute upgrades to hardware and drivers and tools weren't as ready. Devs simply didn't have the chance to optimize for XB1 like they did for PS4. That is why exclusives like Forza 5 and Ryse look so amazing. Head and shoulders above multiplats.

Poor Xboxone.

Ps4: better performance, PS+, lower price. Every sane person should buy Ps4.

Absolutely terrible headline. It's hard to believe that a professional(?) writer would write that with no empirical evidence at hand.

Wow, this is bad... it's 2013 and no fullHD resolutions?! Anyway, i've already decided: PC. At least you can choose your resolution. :/

Stop arguing over this, They're both upgrades from current gen. Get the system with the games that interest you. Whether one looks better than the other doesn't matter. PC for example, everyone has different GPUs. Each PC gamer has different graphics. It's still the same game! Exclusives are what you want to look at. For me, PS4 has what I want so I'll invest in that.

An interesting arrival. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-resolutiongate-the-fallout

I am actually really worried. The ps4 is a $100 less and can play cod at 1080p. It feels like you are paying more for less. I really hope next e3 Microsoft comes out with better hardware.
Things could get really messy after some years when games require more powerful hardware to run at 1080p.

You mean software? The hardware is well and truly in its final stages and its no lie that the PS4 has a better graphics card. All Microsoft can do here on is better the performance of its own card by releasing software patches.

Text Wall Incoming: Doing some research on my own I'm forming some opinions that may or may not be shared by you all.  I really like this website and most of the commenters, so I'm going to share. OpenGL vs DirectX11.1 -  It's worth talking about.  Add on top of that the “AMD Mantle” discussion. I'm seeing a lot of people saying don’t compare racing games, but it should also be noted how close the Forza team is to Microsoft and that they ONLY had to make the game for one system. Windows 8 runs battlefield better than Windows 7.  Xbox is running a Windows 8 Kernel with Hyper-V.  Windows is EXTREMELY memory efficient.  (I open the same adobe and other programs as another developer on MacOS... he runs out of memory and complains a lot, Mac Book Pro, Memory Maxed out.  Never had an issue while running half the memory as him) While Microsoft is experienced at making Extremely efficient Gaming OSes, they will need some time to acclimate to the APU with shared memory pool, vs the GPU / CPU with their own memory pools.. The Software Development kit will get better and better.  John Carmack has said that Microsoft makes a great development environment.
The GPU difference.  GPU matters a ton.  This part worries me.  Physics can be off-loaded to CPU, and the shared memory pool will prove incredible, but both systems have that.  I’m not worried that the RAM is faster on PS4, loading textures into memory might be a little faster, which is great for load times, but I want fast frame rates no matter what… and I want it sharp.  That means I lose anti-aliasing and shadows.  :(   The BF4 demo when he’s driving by all the phone lines looks horrible on X1, it just does.  Maybe they were rushed, maybe they’ll patch it… blah blah.. who knows. “Xbox One SoC APU’s GPU could be compared to the AMD Radeon HD7770 and the PlayStation 4 is said to be somewhere between the HD7850 and HD7870" Graphics Chart Entertainment.  Sorry guys, adding the entertainment apps doesn’t make the system less powerful.  My gaming rig is dual monitor with photoshop open at the same time as tomb raider, it doesn’t get affected like you might think.  If I’m not interacting with other programs, they can be running without hurting a game I have open at the same time.  My system has 12GB of RAM, never uses more than 8GB.  If anyone can pull off great multitasking, it’s Microsoft.  Use an android phone then windows phone, see what I mean?  IF X1’s entertainment is as big of a hit as M$ hopes… then Sony might have a hard time competing with Microsoft’s experience making and refining windows all these years. I’m that nerd with a full Win8 machine in his living room for all the content that is hard to get to without it.  I’m hoping X1 will make me not need it.  We’ll see.

I saw worse ports for PS3, Bayonetta and SC: Double Agent come to mind, not just resolution, but textures suffered. How come everyone blamed lazy devs then? I know the PS4 is more powerful, but looking at BF4, the disparity is not as big. IW doesn't have the best track record either. Jusayin

Who hired this negative nancy writer for WPC?  This used to be a place where we got news about windows phones and tablets.... now this new guy just posts link bait troll articles that bash microsoft.... find another please..

The PS4 ain't all that either. No support for external flash drives for instance is also a "pro" for Xbox One fans ;)

This is a bummer. Might just retract my X1 reserve.

Already cancelled my preorder.

It will not affect my purchase of an XB1. Sony playstation always looks nice on the outside with specs, etc, but fails to deliver anything more than just that. Specs without the backend infrastructure to support the other entertainment aspects involved. Xbox and PS4 use the SAME PROCESSOR, so I don't see this being a long term problem, just need to optimize the software to keep up with the hardware and still deliver a butter smooth experience... Just like how my HTC Trophy still outperforms most quad core android phones. Specs don't make a good experience.

The resolution of games on the consoles is of little consequence to me since I do PC gaming ONLY--I can consistently get better performance, better video and better sound than on any console.  Plus, I HATE the stupid console controllers.  BUT, this does make me wonder if the video performance on the Xbox One could also suffer in the aspects of the device that I DO want to buy the unit for.  If it's going to be under-powered for handling ultra HD video that's coming down the road, then, I might decide to hold off---even though the media and home control aspects really have my attention.

Um neither system can output games at 4K resolution. Its been confirmed that the PS4 can output 4K content. I don't know about the XBone, but it wouldn't surprise me. However they specifically said the PS4 can't do 4K games. Also there are fewer 4K TV's out there now than 1080p TV when the 360 was new.

What a stupid comment about 4k games. NO games will be native 4k for X1 or PS4.  The consoles may be able to upscale to that or output that, but no games will be native 4k.  4k resolution has 4x the pixels of 1080p and 9x the pixels of 720p.   Not to mention the fact that 99.99% of people don't have 4k TVs, and the ones that do probably wouldn't be large enough to tell the difference.

bleak? cause of a launch game thats coming out on all consoles new and old? come on man.

Picking up my PS4 on launch day, xbone in 3 years if good bundles are out.

The idiots creating the titles for these articles need a good kicking imo bleak future are you serious really console pre ordered are all very high both console are about equal in power according to actual games devs. Lets wait and see shall we...

Xbox one up scales to 4k. Game developers are choosing there settings they like because some certain resolution works better then others. So 720p probably loads all pixels faster then 1080p Xbox one has nothing to do with the settings. Its all up to the developers.

This article has poor facts. Google it and find accurate articles. They are missing so much information on this article.

So if people are saying that the Xbox 1 looks better when running in lower resolution, imagine what it will look like when the developers get used to it and can run the Xbox 1 at native 1080p 60fps as well :) this time next year every top game coming out will probably run in native1080p 60fps on both consoles

Considering what Sony published today regarding the limitations of the PS4, I wonder if the author of this hack piece will write a similar doom and gloom article on them?

A lot of PS4 games will not be 1080p.  COD is a port.  Ports performance varys wildly.  It wasn't designed for Xbox One and it doesnt take advantage of Xbox One's hardware.  PS4's hardware is more compatible with COD because it is more similar to the previous gen hardware that COD was made for. Wait until the consoles launch and compare all titles graphics quality. The fact is, some people are really upset that they cannot afford an xbox and want to make excuses for themselves as to why they are getting the PS4.  So they will select a particular game and a particular benchmark of quality (graphics, and in particula graphics resolution)  and try to frame the conversation to suit their argument. The more attention they can pull towards one game, COD, and one thing, graphics, and one topic within that thing, resolution, the less people talk about EVERYTHING ELSE that xbox does amazingly well. Don't let haters frame the conversation.

So much fail in this article implying no Xbox One games are 1080p. Indeed there are many, Forza is an obvious one. Just because developers are finding their feet with each console does not imply thats how the future looks. Launch games are rarely indicative of what can be done further down the line. Having watched numerous videos about both consoles you'd be hard pressed to tell them apart in 1080 native or upscaled or 900p. Infact many videos so far the Xbox looked better so go figure. It doesnt matter now, but it might later on...

XBOX 720p.

Problem solved.you xbox fanboys should start to call it by true name.Xbox 720ppp