It looks like Microsoft is all set to unveil a new LTE-enabled handset targeted at the budget segment, the Lumia 650. Renders of the device have leaked, giving us a quick look at what's on offer with the handset. The image in question suggests that the Lumia 650 will be a dual-SIM handset, sporting a speaker at the front.
The rumored specs include a 5-inch 720p display, Snapdragon 210, 1GB of RAM and 8GB internal memory. The major differnetiatior between the device and the recently announced Lumia 550 is the screen size, with the latter featuring a 4.7-inch 720p display. [Note: Our sources say a Snapdragon 410, not a 210]
There's no mention of a launch date. It is likely Microsoft may hold off until Mobile World Congress — held in February 2016 — to unveil the handset, although given the relatively low-key launch of the Lumia 550, we may see the Lumia 650 before that.
What do you guys think of the Lumia 650 from the leaked render?
Source: Teiba; Via: PhoneArena
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Leaked render offers a quick look at the upcoming Lumia 650
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Look great not the best look phone still look million better than 950. I almost sell my note 5 to get lumia 950 xl but i borrow my friend 950 xl to test out and oh god look like prototype phone and bugs everywhere camera, people.... MS please
what ever you are making but window phone need stronger & fastest processor & ram also if thinking your going to sell millions of products that's not possible because we are buyers & we see that ever you done in phone. please upgrade your processor for 210 to 801 in Lumia 650 & ram minimum 2gb.
Fking piece of crap if this is it. Just had my hopes high. But no way am gonna buy this crap when I can get 3 times better hardware at same price in android. Its been too much since I was wp fan. Almost 2 years and microsoft is still slow as a turtle. Yes I hated android until lollipop came out. And now with marshmallow coming there is no way I am going to stick around.
Bad design, why are we getting generic crap with their latest efforts. It's not even beautiful or a showoff phone anymore! Getting disappointed with these kinds of samsung/sony/iphone knockoff designs.
Ok, let me get this straight...this rumored upcoming device is carrying specs that the Verizon LG Lancet, which lauched ealier 2015 already has.. And people wonder why WP fans are defecting.. Its like Microsoft isn't even trying. As of late, I gotta agree with a tech reviewer that covers Microsoft's devices... Microsoft does not care about Windows phone.
I don't even care about the RAM or processor here -- 8 GB storage is too little even for budget devices. Even if it has expandable storage (not mentioned), SD cards are slow compared to built-in storage.
I'd like a phone similar to the 920's feature set and price that my perents can upgrade to. They don't need the 950's power, but it seems like anything in a lower series is gimped by low internal memory, low RAM, and/or no OIS for the camera. Can't we just get a refresh of the 920 with 2GB RAM, OIS 10MP camera, 4.5" or 4.7" scren, and 32GB RAM? They don't need or want a large screen device. It could be the Lumia 850 since that device was canceled.
Still would like to see a 5" phone that has Glance and something better than a Snapdragon 400 series. The 720p resolution is fine if it's not AMOLED. Sticking with the 830 for now, but would like to see it replaced in the next year, assuming Windows Phone still exists.
Have a 640xl and I will trade it only for better specs phone. At least 2gb of ram, better touch than this one on 640xl - really week one, and 16gb internal. And, of course, at least 13mp camera. At least. Xl is "must have". You can pare that with snapdragon 600 or 410. Don't care as long as price is reasonable and I can afford it. Come on, Microsoft. Do this for as less fortunate. And, of course, fix this win10 already.
I do hope they start offering the front screen portion available in white like this.
Just waiting for it to release.
useless
Microsoft has learned NOTHING.
Looks nice and being it's low end nature, this is the one Microsoft will surely make available to T-Mobile. It'll be a nice cheap compliment to my V10.
One picture at a time -- LG V10
It looks like an iPhone. Haven't liked the iPhone design since the beautiful 4s. Don't like this at all.
it does look nice. on the outside. where is the 550?
I like it. I think it looks good. Though I'd personally never buy a white phone.
Why are you copying Samsung? The white coloured bezel looks horrible. I have a suggestion for Microsoft. If you want to make phones like these, please don't use the brand name " Lumia". Find some other name like Microsoft "Galaxus" and retire the brand "Lumia".
It looks beautiful in my opinion.
First Lumia with white bezels, if it puts s400 and better camera than 640, I am ready ...otherwise, no thanks ...may be in next black Friday @30
This looks like a good sidegrade from my 925. I mean, sure, it's a downgrade in some aspects, but it's also a new phone and a ton cheaper than the 950s. I got my wife a 640 on Black Friday and I'm pretty impressed by it, so I'm sure this could tide me over for a few years.
I'm thinking like you. My lady has a 640 too and it's actually really good. I like it a lot. Depending on the price of this 650, I'll probably buy it.
What happened to not releasing so many devices? Not surprised, tho! Microsoft has been false stating for years, why stop now?!¡
I really missed Nokia Lumia design.. Microsoft Lumia :(
This looks fantastic. Great design for its class and range.
I am glad Virtual Buttons are becoming standart on Windows Mobile Devices (you can downvote as much as you can lool)
That is an ugly iPhone.
Also, as a 600-series phone, I'd expect it to have a SD410, not a 210. They've always put the 200-series chips in the 400 and 500 series. Then again, the 820 had a high-end chip, then the 830 got a low-end one, so hard telling what they are doing.
I don't understand the people ******** about this phone design. It actually looks really nice with this metal 830-930 like sides. This will probably be my next phone if it comes early enough.
I am definitely buying this if it comes out in January CES 2016. Hoping for at least 1.5 GB RAM. And price less than 210 USD
Why it looks samsungy?
No 650 XL? :-(
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Sent from my 640 XL
It is stupid to see all the Lumia devices are having the smae internals.
1GB RAM, 8GB ROM. It feels like Microsoft is just reselling the same product with minor change.
And why 8GB ROM.
Stupid.
As stated in the Honjo article - the 650 does indeed look a lot like the iphone 5/5s.. atleast from the front (since thats all we see for now)
loooks nice enough, hoping it has atelast a 410 processor as it will then support motion data etc. also and will of course be a differentiation from the 550
Looks like an iPhone...
Is that a metal band around the edges? I'm still trying to figure out why that was omitted from the 950. At a minimum they should have offered a premium back cover that was available in stores, and not just from MOZO. I mean, I ordered my MOZO cover like a month ago, and it still hasn't shipped.
It's weird to see a Lumia with white bezels. It also looks like it'll have a metal/faux metal band and buttons.
Can't see the point in this device really. 640 still great device and new 550 has budget sector covered. Might as well call this 550 XL if they feel they must put another device out. NFC is necessary for me, so makes 640 far better device. MSFT still so intent on banging out more devices than necessary. Is this encouraging OEMs to make window phones?
Think I'll keep my 640 (not that T-Mobile will be offering this if history is any guide).
Looks Apple'ish?
Yeahh everything apple'ish..**** it, bring back the Nokia Lumia design team, they're rocks!!!
It's like they're not even trying to make anything that could be a success any more. Just bland uninspiring garbage.
Looks like an iPhone to me...
It's a 6xx series.. But uses snapdragon 2xx series? If this is true, I think Microsoft missed to layoff the one who could not think straight...
EDIT: Didn't read the update properly. Good thing this is going to be 4xx processor :-)
I had a dual SIM 640xl for a while. Very good phone and an upgrade to my 1320 cricket phone in all but 2 ways: No cricket visual voicemail and no camera button on the 640xl... Looks like the canceled 850 would have skipped the camera button too... I'm ok with sd400/410. The screen resolution of 720p is only a hindrance from my 1520 1080p when viewing PDFs. So I am ok with that too... But I sold my 640xl and kept my 1320... Because of the camera shutter button... It's that important to me...
Looks good!
I have the 640XL and I'll never go back to a sub 5.7" screen. So unless there's a 650XL, won't interest me.
This is kind of backwards for you. From 4xx series processor to 2xx series processor.
EDIT: Sorry... Didn't read the article properly :-) yes.. This seems to be a successor for 640 :-)
640xl rocks infront of this.
Extremely ugly. Microsoft has zero design sense when it comes to phones.
Totally agree they destroyed Nokia's design legacy
So MS is not going to come out with a decently specd mid-range phone, and you can't trust other manufacturers with support (updates) . . . the writing is on the wall
Or wait for a year when the current flagships are selling at half the current price . . .
Decent phone for the enterprise grunts....
POS :-(
Specs are disappointing. Did expect little bit more. Especially stronger camera.
They need something in the SD4xx or 6xx range
That's why this will be a 410 supported..
My Phone is about to die. I was really hoping to see a 2GB device so I could switch to that, but if MS does not release a phone with actual 2015 specs I'm afraid I have to move to another OS (Which I would really hate to do). Why don't they care about people with a slightly lower budget who do want a proper phone? I mean it's clearly possible to cram way better specs in a low end phone, they just ignore it somehow
Harish, please convey my message to Microsoft.
If this Lumia 650 really has Snapdragon 210(or even 410) and is coming with a 2000mah battery for a 5" display, and has those camera which Harish has mentioned, then please please cancel right now, right this very moment. I mean it, seriously, we can still wait for a good midrange (or a budget device ) but has to be a very well thought fully finished phone, not a rushed product like Lumia 950, 950XL and 550. Please Microsoft, either improve its specs or just cancel it. You are going to lose big time with this phone if you ever tried to launch it in market.
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Or better make is with Snapdragon 617 and 2/16 GB with 13/5 mp cam(no selfie flash please) with 27-2800 mah battery for a 5" display with below screen capacitive keys, and make it your sole midranger for the whole year. Then keep updating and upgrading through out the year. I would like to see that fail.
But the kind of device that you have in pipeline, sorry Microsoft, but you are going nowhere
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Thank You! Brother at least you understand.
A snapdragon 617 would be more for a Lumia 750/850. Snapdragon 410 is perfectly fine for a Lumia 650,
Yes but what I am trying to say is that instead of 2 midrangers (1 budget midrange and one proper midrange) they should just release a single model with as much aggressive pricing as they can. And then keep on updating and upgrading it throughout the year, plus marketing a single midrange device is a lot easier than 5 different phones. See, how Apple does it? That also makes it easy for Devs too to update apps and mould them the way the market and fans ask for.
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Front facing speaker, **** yeah!
Looks Great for a Budget Device, metal band looks always more Premium!
Looks like a Samsung phone.
With such minute difference Microsoft might run out of model numbers
The phone has two moles. How cute!:\
8gb. 1gb. Thick bezels. Relatively ugly too.
Is this to replace my 3310 or what? A tip to MS: Cheap does not necessarily have to equal " ******" and "ancient".
"I want a midrange Lumia with pureview camera...and navigation, camera keys....like 830.....are you listening to us...Microsoft."
Its design is perfect instead of having bigger key logos. MS onscreen touch keys are small.
I want real buttons for once.
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A 750 plzzz..or a phone with 1080p screen and 6XX series SoC
I think current 950 & 950xl design could be use for 650 & 650xl and 950 & 950xl design should have been like 930 & 830.... Also surface phone design should be like L925 with bigger screen and stylus.... I hope MS understand fan's mind :)
firstly it has to have minimum of S410. Then it has to have better camras than 640/640XL. finally it HAS TO GET THE PRICING RIGHT. by right I mena it has to be below the current market price of 640 and 640XL. Unless it does so, which is hard to imagine as the current market price of 550 and 640 are almost the same, it won't taste much sucess with this new strategy too.
MS must understand that it is fighting a losing battle and unless it plays on price to build some kind of market share, the days of windows mobile will be numbered
... I am still waiting for 5 inch, fullhd, camera as good as actual L930 at least... Something like L930 :D but little bit newer
Predecessor of 640 in term of specs
Put soc and ram aside, really, there's only one question that matters at this moment ... WHEN IN INDIA????
Same here "WHEN IN INDIA"
630 and 640 both house Sd400...So Clearly 650 will House Sd410.
It's a long time since we've had a decent spec Lumia that isn't massive. When I saw the teardown of the 950, the actual board is tiny compared to the device and screen. It would fit behind a much smaller screen. Make it a little fatter to contain the same mah battery too.
XL edition?
I find this design very elegant! The asymetric speaker looks super!
If the back camera is better than the one of my 640, I might be tempted to upgrade!
PS: On screen buttons are great! Coming from an Android device (actually several), I just love the on deman buttons! No more accidental pressing buttons when fishing the phone out of my pocket, no more accidental pressing when playing games or passing the phone to somebody, etc. I think these on screen, on deman buttons are the future! A dedicated camera button however, is something I truly miss...
I wish 5" would remain the standard. Love my 950 but I'd have preferred probably even smaller than 5
So microsoft is leaving traditional Lumia design?
Traditional Lumia designs didn't bring market share..soo...
Want to use smartphones with maximum bezels and bland fugly design, with old Snapdragon processors in 2016?
Try Microsoft Lumia 650, 750 and 850. Satirical.
The 950 was traditional and people are still complaining about its design (while using it).
These guys are here to complain.. Never mind..
Nice! More options, morr choices for first time Windows Phone users.
Next time I will buy a Nokia device even If it is Android OS after my Lumia 730 is dead
After L730 is dead?.. So you are not going to upgrade in this life time?
This actually looks pretty decent.
Nokia designs were better. :/
Wait a minute.....does the design team don't know how to change the code for the cnc machine, cause it pretty look like they are only resizing one shape,
I will buy the same day when available if it has sd 410 or 400 8MP+5MP ,clearblack + glance display
This phone is ugly. Sorry
And the iPhone is revolutionary... /s
Hey. Neither the iphone nor this lumia is revolutionary.
It looks just like an iPhone 4
Nice looking phone ... but:
I really hope they do not use a Snapdragon 210. Whats it with Microsoft cloning their phones with different model numbers? Enough already why even bother with a "new" phone if it has the same specs than an existing one with only a minimal difference in screen real estate?
500 -> 200 series
600 -> 400 series
7/800 -> 600 series
900 -> 800 series
that would make sense ... a flood of 4/500 with 200 series and 6/7/800 with 400 series like they did before is almost insulting, do not start this bs again microsoft.
There is no 7XX 8XX lumias.. Sorry
Tell that to my Nokia Lumia 735..
"Hey mayblast's L735, I'm afraid there won't be any L735 successor ..sorry.."
Happy?..:D :D
It is a rumour about soc210.. It will be snapdragon410..
My lumia 520 is superior than this
How i wish that they could take that design, make it a bit bigger and put a 5inch screen, front camera, flash, and below 8mm thin, 1G Ram
520 is superior???.. HAHAHAHAHA XD
Design wise every bit true
He was not talking about the design.. Right?
Hope it has band 12 and WiFi calling otherwise I can't give it a second look vs my 640. Though based on the processor I'm not sure I would anyway.
Not impressed with 410?
Love Windows 10 and 10M but this is so nondescript in design it's virtually invisible. Lumia's should stand out and shout I AM LUMIA HERE ME ROAR!! Sorry but IMO this is just meh!
This is what I was speaking of yesterday.... See.
The design language is still a little better looking than 950 and 950 XL. I wish white version of 950 XL came with front white bezels and similar curves. Oh well.
More dull low end guff. Hopefully it shifts better than the other low end guff. Meh.
No XL? :/
Its actually a Lumia 550XL.. Got it? ;)
It's only 5" :/
4.7>5 .. So ,there is that..
Yawn... Dull iPhone clone.
Design looks good from the front, kind of looks like an iPhone doesn't it?
Front firing speakers would be awesome. But if it's a 210 that would just be ridiclious.
What if it's not a 210... Its 410.. Read the article again..
this one also looks better than 950
It was so ugly tbh....
It WAS.. Not any more.. :P
Snapdragon 210 is a Joke!
Its 410.. Read man..Read
Glad to see an organised line-up of phones. Low end, mid range, and high end. Tidier than releasing 15 phones a year.
Hi-ends are only for business users. Lo-ends have bullcrap specs and look like a joke. There is no mid-level phone at the moment.
Hi-end is for geeks. The Surface line will be for business use. Well, anyone can of course buy and use what ever they want.
Awesome looking phone. When it will release I will surely buy it .
Same here.. This could be my back up device..
I hate buttons on screen, they looks ugly especially the new Lumia phones
That's your view
No noticeable diff btw 550 and this apart from screen size, what the ****? Just make a attractive looking 8xx series lumia phone with thin bizzels and a metallic body
That's reserved for other OEMs..sorry..
Not attractive, I bet these are old designs. Why can't Microsoft phones have thin bezel for christ sake. Other oem are making their phone looks thin and attractive with an already robust android OS, if this all Microsoft can offer once again then I'd be really disappointed.
Ugh. To many different devices. You, Microsoft, are the reason the average phone consumer is confused when looking at Windows phones.
There will be less going forward.
Yes, just 6.
Or may be 5 ...
Budget - L550-L650
FLAGSHIP- PANOS phone( for business),L950,L950XL
Looks like dual front speaker
It looks fine, but 8G memory is so 2012 we need at least 16 of internal memory, and 2G of RAM
I have been waiting for a white Lumia for ages. Don't care of the specs. MC mobile is always fluid. Its about design!!!!!!!!
The 640 xl would be still better than the new budget and mid range phones. Microsoft gas forgotten how to make well featured budget phone. They are simply ignoring the competition in the market by not making competitive budget devices. Earlier nokia tried to win a little share with devices like 520,720,920 bcoz of design and specs. Now smartphones have become cheap. Phones like one plus one and UTC have good design and features. Microsoft has made a good premium phone 950 xl with mozo cover available but budget phones are what we are expecting to be good. If they provide right specs for the given price someone might give a try to windows 10 mobile too. Sure Microsoft wants to put a dent into apples iPhone revenue but its not easy to convince apple fanboys to buy Windows devices. Surface book and pro got attention not first bcoz it ran full windows. A pro 4 with Windows RT again would have been a flop. Microsoft is trying hard to get devs from other platforms with UW stratergy. But atleast they should provide proper specs so that ppl can invest in windows 10 mobile providing a postive word of mouth feedback. Microsoft has also stopped advertising their lumias here in India. I haven't seen any advertisement on tv for 950,950xl and 550. Their Lumia marketing team is a mess.
When Microsoft is going to listen to the Lumia fans, when they are going to improve their design, use latest Snapdragon processors( 415, 618, 620) in Low and Mid-range Lumias and announce their support for Windows 10 mobile. Tech world want latest chips, best design and best specifications for optimum price.
Why to own a Windows Smartphone that has no good App store( no local apps, low quality apps, no latest Social and Games apps), and no unique features with unreasonable price fluctuations( eg. In US, price dropping of Lumia 640 from around 180$ to 50$), and no quality best looking designs?
That fienst mean u degrade the design and improve it.
Hey Harish, what do you think? Isn't it a bit ignorant if Microsoft to completely ignore the current market? I mean what is stopping them to jump to 16 GB from 8 GB for their midrangers.?? How long do we have to wait for this "innovation!"?
Also, no improvement in camera department in real sense since late 2013, and then MS complains of poor customers interest and pull the plug on certain segment? Without even trying or giving their best shot? How does one expect MS to make any mark in the market whatsoever?
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But this won't be a mid-ranger. The Lumia 650 in all likelihood will be a budget device. Until made official by Microsoft, the specs are just a rumor.
Even if we consider it a budget device, it still isn't a match for Android low-ends, the like of Moto E and Lenovo Vibe A2010 and Xiaomi. Considering the fact that MS owns both hardware(OEM) and software portions of their smartphones, this is really really not their best effort. It's not even good.
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And Microsoft Lumia 650 won't be no match for looks, quality build and design, and specifications as compared to Moto G 2015 which is also a budget device, how it would be comparable to Moto G 2016 or similar 2016 Android phones
640 was a mid ranger.. How can its successor be a budget device?
I think MS must step up their game in lower end segment. They should go with SD 400 series on low end devices, SD 600/800 series on mid range and for the flagship only the top hand picked CPU must be present.
I think MS must step up their game in lower end segment. They should go with SD 400 series on low end devices, SD 600/800 series on mid range and for the flagship only the top hand picked CPU must be present.
Terrible looks. It has exactly the same look like 80% of Android phones. Nokia come back please, those Americans (or whoever designed that) have no idea what does the "great design" is.
Go brush your teeth.
Shut up.. Dont call those fools back.. This is a nokia designed phone
How do you know that?
Not impressed. This render looks like the 850 render. I hate renders.
It resembles common Samsung phones. Like a Galaxy A5.
Galaxy y noooooooo
Corrected. My fault :)
Nope, galaxy A5(2016) looks a lot more premium and nice.
Resembles.
I laugh at the criticism of the 2.3% =/
Most people in general do not know what they want.
Because that 2.3% want something nice smartphones hardware, specifications in every price segments running Windows 10 mobile
Snapdragon 617 or 620
Ram 2GB
Is it too much to ask from Microsoft?
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Lumia 650 with 5 inch 720p LG IPS LCD display, 2 gb Ram, 16 gb internal memory and Snapdragon 415 1.4 Ghz octa-core processor with reduced bezels( especially the top and bottom bezels) would be for mine choice, and Microsoft can do retail pricing can be done around 225$-250$.
I think Microsoft should avoid Snapdragon 410 or its higher clocked variant Snapdragon 412 processor in Lumia 650. They should use Snapdragon 415 processor for Lumia 650 that would be the processor to be comparable for Moto G 2016, the design is ok, but the bezels are too much and, the phone speaker and loudspeaker should be inside the glass, as in Lumia 950.
Then people will be complaining about the price.. This is not a midrange device.. Its a budget phone.. So the budget specs..
And the price would at least be responsible for its quality and specs when the price drops. Not like low quality Lumia 630.
This phone looks more like an android phone
Sooooo ugly
Are you sure is not a Samsung???
It's the new phone from Texas Instruments/s
Man, back in the day this many fans never said they didn't like the design of a Lumia... Practically nobody disliked the design, and everyone was exited... Read the comments now! Wow!
Y snap 210. Microsoft is ******* stupid in making properly featured budget phones. It should be snap 400.
Nooooooo... The specs are ****.. Look at the android phones getting specs on mid rangers.. They r way better than WP.. Who will switch to WP from android seeing this specs on a mid ranger
It has 410 dude
Read the article man.. You guys sucks..
It that one camera for windows hello???
Nope
See no reason to shift my 640 for 650. Almost the same.
True..
FFC is 5MP.. How could that be almost same to .9MP FFC in 640 .. SD410 is better than SD400 .. Front facing speakers .. Better design.. Think.. But no one is forcing.. This may be for new customers.. Not an upgrade for 640..
I need a 830 successor with 2GB RAM, 1080p Screen, Qualcomm 615 processor, Glance and SD Card slot. Is that too much to ask? 830 was a beautiful phone. It's sad that they cancelled 850 >_>
615 is support so maybe
This. A million times, this.
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MS you need to f***ing hear this.. :/
For an 8xx range device (so midrange) these specs would be good - something along the lines of the Lumia 930 but w/ glance and an SD Card slot would be nice.
I will wait for more information
Well if its sd210 then the phone is useless.. Hope ur sources are right!!
Definitely 410..
There should bee a 5xx series, a 7xx series combining 640/730 and the 9xx series. If the 9xx series is a hit they can release an additional 8xx later as cheap flagship.
No, not another low range phone. It looks like *** and 1GB RAM? For real? It's not 2012 anymore.
For low range, I'd say that's an improvement. The 1020 had 2 GB ram.
Yes, but it's over 2 years old. The Lumia 920 had 1GB of RAM. It wouldn't hurt anybody, if they released a phone for high-end with 3GB, a low-end device with 1GB and a phone perfectly in the middle with 2GB. Who needs a second phone in the low-end segment? I really hope this phone is just a rumor and vanishes asap.
I don't see any resemblance to a 5s. It looks more like an A3 or A5 from Samsung.
No way this looks like galaxy A3 or A5, look at galaxy A3(2016), galaxy A5(2016), they are premium looking and has much better material, design, quality construction and looks. By this leaks, Lumia 650 looks fugly... Should be crowned the maximum bezel having and most asymmetrical smartphone of year 2016.
It cant be snapdragon 210!!
Yeah I'm would say the 410
Design is somewhat different than current Lumia models.. (I think that way)
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