Let's talk about that Surface Duo 2 leak

Duo 2 Leak
Duo 2 Leak (Image credit: YouTube - Tech Rat)

Surface duo 2 Leak

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Yesterday, images of a near-final Surface Duo 2 handset leaked revealing that Microsoft's next dual-screen phone will finally include a competent triple-lens camera system housed in a very typical camera bump, just like other smartphones on the market. So far, however, response to these images has been somewhat negative, with comments critiquing how the camera looks out of place and now hinders the ability to lay the Duo flat on itself in single-screen mode.

Right off the bat, I want to quickly address some people's assumptions that the leak is fake or of an older prototype with an unfinished design. According to my sources, the prototype in these photos is the real deal and features the design that Microsoft intends to ship. We may see minor adjustments to things like materials and colors, but the camera bump, shape, and size is all set-in stone.

It's really hard to judge how good or bad a device is going to be based on leaked grainy photos. It's pretty much a fact that leaked photos always look worse than the real thing. When the iPhone 11 Pro first leaked, the design of the camera was polarizing, but then the device was announced and started shipping, and people got over it. I fully expect the same thing to happen with Surface Duo 2.

Duo 2 leak

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However, that doesn't address the usability problem in regard to using the device in single-screen mode. Yes, the camera bump will prevent the device from laying completely flat on itself, which on paper seems like a usability nightmare. But I bet this isn't as big of a deal as it seems. You can kind of simulate how this is going to look and feel on a Surface Duo 1 by placing a Surface Slim Pen between the two halves.

I tried this myself last night, and it's honestly a non-issue for things like typing or navigating the OS. In fact, I think it makes holding the Surface Duo a bit easier because you now have a thicker area to grab on to. Of course, the aesthetic of this isn't going to be to everyone's taste, but this is another thing most people will "get over" with time, and may even grow to like.

Would I prefer if it did lay flat? Of course. But is it the end of the world that it doesn't? I really don't think so.

There are also structural concerns about whether or not the camera bump could possibly bend or break when closing the two sides together. Again, a legitimate concern, but I feel like Microsoft would already have tested this extensively. I would bet that if it was a problem, Microsoft wouldn't be shipping the device with this design. Still, this is one of those "we'll have to wait and see" kind of things.

Just like the Surface Book

Surface Book 3 Review Side Ports Type C

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This all reminds me of when Microsoft announced the first Surface Book. When that was announced, the design around the hinge and the fact that the lid wouldn't close flush with the keyboard deck was a real concern for people. Some people found it ugly, others were worried about whether the gap would let in dirt or allow the lid to bend over time.

It turned out, none of those concerns were a problem. We're now on the third-generation Surface Book five years in, and not one person is questioning the structural design of the hinge or lid anymore. It's just how it is, and I think a lot people have actually grown to like it. I think we're going to see the exact same thing happen with Surface Duo 2.

Sure, it's annoying that the first-generation Surface Duo can sit flush and the second one can't, but it's also annoying that the first-generation Surface Duo can't take good photos. As someone who isn't even that into smartphone photography, I still want better cameras on my Surface Duo. I want an ultrawide lens, and I want to be able to take photos quickly without having to fold the device into a specific mode first.

I think a lot of people complaining about the Surface Duo 2 camera have never actually used a Surface Duo 1. As someone who has daily driven a Surface Duo since September 2020, I can tell you that a camera system on the outside of the device is going to be so much better. The single camera on the inside is a nightmare to use, and I've missed many photo opportunities because of it.

It's pretty clear to me that Microsoft is trying to make Surface Duo 2 a good phone. Surface Duo 1 nailed the fundamentals of being a Surface, but it wasn't a good phone. The poor camera, lack of NFC, 5G, high-refresh displays, and an outdated processor were all reasons why the device wasn't a good phone. That, and the fact that the OS was (and is) incredibly buggy.

For Microsoft to make Surface Duo 2 a good phone, it needs to address these concerns. And luckily, it appears to be doing so. It will have a better camera, but the only way to do that is to add a camera bump, as the Duo itself is too thin to house any competent camera system inside the body. So this is literally the only thing they can do without sacrificing something else such as battery life or overall device thickness.

The original Surface Duo set out to be a device that excels in productivity, multitasking, and inking. That doesn't change with the Surface Duo 2 and its camera bump. It's still a dual-screen device, and it's still the only good one on the market. Sure, you won't be able to fold it completely flat on itself in single-screen mode anymore, but if that's a showstopper for you, then maybe you're not the target demographic for a device like the Duo anyway.

As a Surface Duo 1 customer, I am very excited about Surface Duo 2. I think, if Microsoft can nail the software, this will be the first Surface Duo I can comfortably recommend to "normal folks" who may be mesmerized by mine when they see me using it in a public setting. We expect Surface Duo 2 to begin shipping in September or October, though we don't yet know how much it'll cost.

Zac Bowden
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Zac Bowden is a Senior Editor at Windows Central. Bringing you exclusive coverage into the world of Windows on PCs, tablets, phones, and more. Also an avid collector of rare Microsoft prototype devices! Keep in touch on Twitter: @zacbowden.

  • There's a photo of the camera bump showing that it's "wedge" shape, so it seems like this would allow the Duo 2 to open as much as the Duo 1 with a bumper case on.
  • Really? I hadn't seen that one. But sounds like it would alleviate some of these concerns. If there needs to be a bump in order to get a decent camera, I understand, but they should still try to minimize the wedge effect as much as they can.
  • Here's the photo: https://i.imgur.com/4Pm5PEK.png Not sure how that wedge would look in person, but as someone who used the bumper on their Duo anyways, I don't think the bump will affect me much. On a side note, the USB-C port on that black Duo 2 looks cracked 😬
  • It sure looks like it won't open all the way.
  • Still don't think it's necessary. Microsoft has already filed a patent for a type of camera sensor that would obviate the need for such a pronounced bump. Here's hoping they implement this in the Duo3. With the right software and sensor setup, this phone still only needs one camera for both selfie and subject use,and could be just as fast to use as any multi-camera kit.
  • I do not think it is as easy as that. You see a camera bump with about every phone (which makes decent photos) now while companies like eg Apple invest lots of money in camera R&D. But maybe they can reduce or flush the bump a bit further over time.
  • My hope is that they can eventually create a device with half the camera assembly in each screen and they become one when the device is folded together. Even if that's a possibility though, it may be some way off yet.
  • I can still see if someone flips it fast enough the camera can crack
  • I doubt it. From the pictures I saw, it looked like there was a rim around the camera housing so the back of the other screen would never actually the lens covers.
  • Surface Duo 3, here I wait for you. Surface Book's gap at the hinge makes it more like a book but the Surface Duo 2' gap at the other end makes it ugly. But I agree it will not be as big of a problem since we will not use the it in that posture for long time except for when on a call and not using any hands free.
  • Knowing me, I'd probably buy it just to have. Whether or not it would replace my daily driver remains to be seen. I have many use cases where a single screen phone still works in my ecosystem of devices and daily tasks. My Duo 1 almost fits my uses cases, but not all, e.g. doesn't fit in existing car phone mount, no waterproof case when I go to the beach/pool, can't use for one handed operation or visibility of notifications.But the Duo 1 works best when I am at home/work consuming media and/or multitasking for work.
  • "doesn't fit in existing car phone mount", that seems like something easy to fix, just add a bigger car phone mount? Maybe a (universal) tablet holder.
  • My experience is similar to yours; my Duo 1 is my base phone however I often carry my work phone because it has NFC. If things work out with the upcoming Duo 2 there will be no need to carry a work phone for that purpose (just for on-call). In any event, a slab phone is a bygone adventure for me.
  • now the problem is you can't have the thing folded and still use the camera. it will be in this awkward half open angle?
  • No it will not (be alright), nor should we chill out. This is a stumbling and bumbling shot in the dark - NOT an integrated solution by any means - and now the Duo has lost it's one winning feature - a sophisticated and elegant design alternative to the folded thickness of the Samsung and other offerings... The real focus should be on what's inside and the weakness of software support in the Android universe - maybe they will do that but you won't be able to overlook the scarred device.
  • The Duo 2 is still the thinnest folding device when closed. When I say it will be all right, I mean it's not going to cause usability issues when in single-screen mode. You can still fold the device 355 degrees and use just one screen if you'd like, and you will barely notice the discrepancy. At most, it'll just look weird. But it'll be fine to use.
  • It's not a folding device to start with. It's a two devices with different and separate components inside, held together with hinge. Just like your laptop is not a folding device. Know the difference. Folding device is a device with a shared folding SINGLE component that folds itself, like a screen for example. And no, wires inside the hinges don't count. Actually, problem is you do know the difference... If we are honest and accurate in the terminology, lots of things would be better in this world. You don't call your interior doors "folding walls" don't you? Just like in your laptop you have one portion called a screen and other called keyboard. Duo just has two screens. Nothing foldable here.
    dstrauss is right, now Samsung's Fold's gap doesn't seem such of an issue to the Duo "perfectly folding device, because when you aren't ready with the tech (folding screens) you should not use it" fanatics anymore. Interesting how narratives change. Hypocritical
  • folding
    (of a piece of furniture or equipment) able to be bent or rearranged into a flatter or more compact shape, typically in order to make it easier to store or carry. Can't help thinking by that definition it is a folding device, what you describe is a folding screen device.
  • ok whatever you say pal. I agree with you 100%. But again, by that definition and your interpretation of it a simple question - do you call your doors "folding walls"?
  • I'm sorry but there is no world in which this is not a foldable device. That is meant in contrast to candy bar devices. And I don't call a door a foldable wall because it is a door. But there are folding walls: https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=folding+wall&FORM=HDRSC2&PC=MOZB That said, this device doesn't have a foldable screen, which my next phone will.
  • I rest my case. Have fun.
  • Who says "foldables" only apply to devices with flexible screens? I think this gatekeeping is unnecessary. The Duo folds, the Galaxy folds, they all fold in different ways to achieve different postures.
  • So when you fold a piece of A4 paper in half, you are actually folding it, right? So far so good. Now if you slice it in half and stick the two parts with a tape and still fold it (you're actually folding the tape), is it the same thing for you, just because you reduce the size in half?
  • Wow. Literally everyone in the industry disagrees with you. Yes a laptop is a "folding device"... Seriously it's in the definition of a laptop: A laptop, laptop computer, or notebook computer is a small, portable personal computer with a screen and alphanumeric keyboard. These typically have a "clamshell" form factor, typically having the screen mounted on the inside of the upper lid and the keyboard on the inside of the lower lid, although 2-in-1 PCs with a detachable keyboard are often marketed as laptops or as having a "laptop mode." Laptops are FOLDED shut for transportation, and thus are suitable for mobile use. Its name comes from lap, as it was deemed practical to be placed on a person's lap when being used. FOLDING is the action taken on the device to make it portable. No one said the Duo has a folding screen, but it is a foldable device because it can be folded in half. Learn the difference.
  • That's a pretty interesting analogy, however I don't think it satisfies the dynamics for this discussion. Think of it like this....we refer to the bending of the radius and ulna bones from the humerus bone as bending of the arm, not activation of the elbow joint socket because all bones in the arm serve a collective purpose. Yes, both screens on the Duo can function independently, it is still a device that serves a collective purpose so, it's referenced as a single device with dual screens that fold.
  • What about when using it flat on a table? like a tablet. one of the nice features about the Duo 1 was using it like a tablet, and not always in the hand. the Camera bump made the Note Series pretty much require a case. now this phone is going to require a case to make up for bad design.
  • I think if they could make the bump white on the white phone it would look much better.
    For "normal folks", a bad camera is much more of a put-off than esthetics when spending $1,000+
  • "I think a lot of people complaining about the Surface Duo 2 camera have never actually used a Surface Duo 1. " I think you're wrong... in fact, I'd say a lot of those of us who bought the Duo and have continued to use it are upset about the possibility of losing the form factor/usability and elegance of the first device. There's a reason some people never added the bumper case (which was itself a lame compromise). Also, how is this making it a better phone when it's going to be harder to use AS a phone (i.e. in single-screen mode and held up to your ear) because it no longer lies flat? Duo 1 was already difficult to hold up to your ear... now it's going to be even harder. (And yes, headphones will solve that last issue... but I'm not sure how making those even MORE necessary is a good thing for the phone-usage of the device.) I get that you and Daniel apparently don't use the Duo in any way that is negatively impacted by this change, but handwaving complaints as if they were only from people who weren't true fans is dumb. Anyway, that's my rant. Hopefully, Duo 3 will have a less half-assed solution.
  • I use my Surface Duo in single-screen mode about 60% of the time, and I don't see the bump making it harder to use in single-screen mode at all. Sure, it'll look weird, but from a usability perspective, it changes nothing. You can still use the Duo 2 in single-screen mode, and you won't have any issues doing so. It's not like it's a 90-degree compromise, we're talking a few degrees at most.
  • Exactly Zac. I'd say even using the current bumper with the Duo, it already does not close flat in phone mode. I bet the new camera hardly adds 1 or 2 more degrees to the bumper angle.
  • "(And yes, headphones will solve that last issue... but I'm not sure how making those even MORE necessary is a good thing for the phone-usage of the device.)", or just put it on speaker. For those rare private calls that you have to make I do not really see a problem with that. If you need to make lots of phone calls than the Duo was never a good device for that and a camera bump or not won't change that.
  • All I can think is that writing/sketching on this will be terrible.
  • Now think about simple typing on a tilted device in your hand...
  • Not being able to use the Duo open & flat for (stylus) writing is WAY worse than this stupid camera debate
  • Left screen will be flat. Right screen will need a bumper like device to keep it from wobbling. Then writing will work fine. If you ever use Duo with a bumper, it is fine.
  • I have been a Duo user since day one. Sorry, I don't agree Zac. Not being able to lay the Duo V2 flat is an issue. Having to open the Duo to take a photo is an issue. Ruining the Duos beautiful aesthetics is an issue. Well, it is an issue to me. Saying that, I'm a hypocrite and will be getting one... or a Neo depending how that goes..
  • You've always been required to open the Duo to take a photo, because the camera is on the inside on Duo 1. Plus, Duo 2 still has an inside camera if you want to keep using it. You just now have the ability to use (good) outside cameras too. These "issues" aren't actually issues, they're just things that this one does differently. If you don't like it, sure, but calling them issues is a stretch.
  • Like you I've been a Surface Duo owner since day one, and to be quite honest the productivity and functionality cancel out the software bugs for me at least. I think we're over hyping the bump. If it's equivalent to the lip on the bumper, then we're not going to really notice any change. Not to mention some friends of mine have actually bought full cases and the thickness is considerable to the issues bumpers with the device but still not that bad. If you've ever an iPhone and Android with a case with no problem, then the thickness shouldn't really bother you. I'm more interested about the notifications you get without needing to fully open up the device, and more applications that utilize the spanning feature, which with gesture orientation doesn't really impede the functionality of the device despite the center hinge. I will definitely be getting the next generation, but honestly I won't be in too much of a rush because for the most part, I'm satisfied with the Duo Ver1.
  • The entire Surface line of devices are full with compromises...
  • So is life ...
  • Every device has compromises, bit useless comment.
  • I wonder if you laid the Duo 2 flat if the gyroscope inside or whatever would automatically change the orientation of the screens? That would be annoying.
  • Probably same as with other phones, with my current phone (with bare Android OS) I have no issues with it.
  • It looks like a clumsy, horrible afterthought and it isn't needed. There could easily be a double-height internal camera just to the right of the existing internal camera and whether by design or luck the space on the opposite screen (upper left) is unused. The new thicker internal camera bump could easily fit into the unused space when folded and wouldn't change the exterior view or the feel when folded.
  • You're missing the point. For MS to add any sort of good camera, it needs to be in a bump. The Duo is too thin to house anything more than a tiny selfie sensor inside the body, which is what we have on Duo 1. Now, if you think the Duo doesn't need a good camera, that's your own opinion. But I think you're wrong on that, because the Duo 2 is supposed to be a phone, and people want good cameras on their phones.
  • I agree 100% with Zac. In addition, Microsoft has included in its staff Surface Ari Partinen to make excellent cameras, especially for the Duo which is, however innovative, still a Smartphone. To make a second version of the Duo equal to the first he would not have invested money to hire a great like Ari Partinen.
  • The abandon with which you throw the word "easily" around indicates that you are either a phone engineer or full of crap. The fact that pretty much EVERY phone has a camera bump these days suggests that designing a phone with a good camera and no bump is not easy at all, but you enjoy your fantasy world.
  • What a pationate topic!!!! I always try to keep things balanced and most should do the same. What we are witnessing is the sadness of seeing a concept become a real product. We have all tried sooooo hard to love and defend the duo no matter what, that some have become irrational about it. Haters should compare the duo as a concept car, inevitably they become usable and they work as intended with less extreme and appealing look. I really love the duo and yes I also have discomfort, looking at the camera bump. But it will bring the final touch the duo never had : a decent camera. Not to mention all the things it will also have and will make it an awesome device to use in any scenario.
  • They should just remove the second screen, it isn’t needed. Duo 1 didn’t prove it useful and adding a better camera won’t fix it. Dual screen doesn’t make for a compelling device. We see no copycat devices, it didn’t catch on. If this one doesn’t move the needle, it will be fine to try something else.
  • If they remove the second screen, then it's not a Duo. It's a mono. And it also becomes just another android phone, in a sea of android phones. The only thing that separates the duo from literally every other phone on the planet is the second screen. Even contemplating its removal would sound the death knell of the surface phone dream
  • Don't you ever get sick of trying to convince people that they shouldn't want something just because you don't?
  • He doesn't. It's his lot in life.
  • If MSFT followed your advice the Surface Pro line would've failed. There were no copy cat devices when the Surface Pro first came out either.
  • So, you haven't used the Duo yet.
  • Completely disagree with this entire article. Again, for 2 years MS has insisted the Duo was not a phone. It was a productivity device that made phone calls. Now they are chasing the phone market and copying what everyone else is doing. This is exactly what they did with Windows Phone. They have so little conviction that they can't even stay committed to their own vision of a product. And then there is this statement: "Sure, you won't be able to fold it completely flat on itself in single-screen mode anymore, but if that's a showstopper for you, then maybe you're not the target demographic for a device like the Duo anyway". Umm, seriously. This is one of the most misguided statements ever written on here. The ability to fold it completely flat was literally one of the main selling points of the device. The people who wanted that ARE the target audience!! The target audience was not people looking for a flagship phone with the best camera in the world. I love photography, I own 4 way too expensive cameras to go with my 3 way to expensive flagship phones. I am taking pictures all the time. But losing the design and function of the Duo, which was the most impressive thing about it, isn't worth it in my opinion. There are a few OEM's that have found a way to make competent camera systems without a hump, they could have made it better without shooting for the stars. This will fail. It still won't be a good enough phone for the critics and the masses, and now it won't be as easily used, and pocketed for the productivity folks. I was getting really excited for the next Duo, this is a good reminder of why I have been so disappointed in MS over the last 5 or 6 years.
  • If you ever use Duo with the bumper, it is a non issue.
  • MS has never said it's not a phone. When asked if it's a phone, they replied with "It's a Surface." Microsoft is actually putting more effort into making Duo 2 a better phone, because the idea that Duo isn't a phone hasn't worked. Nobody bought into it. This is why you're getting more phone-like features such as NFC, 5G, good cameras, and high-refresh rate displays.
  • "high-refresh rate displays", nice.
  • One of the biggest problems with the Duo's camera is that it's bad even in comparison to other phones that don't have a camera hump. I've used plenty of non-hump phones that don't have the same problems like the Duo, such as blurry pictures, inability to focus, or blown contrast. I'm not convinced that the Duo 2 absolutely needed a gigantic camera hump in order to get good pictures. Even a small camera hump would have been acceptable. After all, the iPhone SE takes much better pictures than the Duo and it only has a tiny hump. Heck, I could pull out my Lumia 1520 and at least take pictures that I'm more confident in.
  • Why did Microsoft wait for version 2 to put a decent camera on the duo? Presumably, when the original Duo was being shipped, Microsoft would have known that the camera was subpar and would hold the device back. I think we can also presume that Microsoft would have had better camera options to pick from, but they would have caused a camera bump. So, if the plan was always to just stick a big camera bump on the device anyway, why didn't they just accept that outcome in the original design process and put a decent but ugly looking camera on the Duo 1? Why ship their first flagship phone in years with a crappy, pre 2013 camera? Doesn't make sense
  • Zac mentioned before that the Duo hardware a done years ago. There is an article about it that he wrote. I'm glad Duo 2 is on track to be released. They are not abandoning the form factor. Been using Duo as daily driver since launch. Will pre-order Duo 2 on day one.
  • I think because the Duo 1 was more of a prototype / halo device, not really an optimized phone design.
  • MS had the first Surface Duo's design pretty much done for a long while before it was announced/shipped. That's why.
  • Y'all can stan this phone to death, that doesn't mean this isn't awful design that betrays the elegance of the core idea of the device. Comparing it to the Book doesn't work, the Book was designed to look and feel good that way. This camera bump is a ratchet job in terms of engineering...they really ought to make it an optional SKU for those who want a good camera that badly.
  • I don't disagree with having an additional SKU
  • I wonder if real life ridicule will play a factor in the Duo 2's perception. I know we don't often think about public mockery when it comes to phones, especially since modern smartphones are so bland that they all blend together. But imagine telling someone you just spent a thousand dollars, or more, on a smartphone. Then you get a phone call and you're fumbling trying to hold a device that looks flawed because of the awkward gap. Sure, tech nerds might "get it," but will general consumers? First impressions matter, and if the first thing people notice is that you can't hold your phone -- like a phone -- they may sour on the Duo 2 real fast. They may even mock you for something that looks flawed.
  • I'll just do what I do now, pop in my Surface earbuds. Then, as I do now, I'll talk on the phone while taking notes, looking up stuff, or finishing that email.
    To most people, it will still look like magic.
  • Yeah, I usually use ear buds. Holding a phone to the ear is so old fashion. I frequently get compliments whenever I use the Duo in public, and never ridicule, if you actually care about what other people think. Lmao.
  • When I first saw this I assumed/expected that the bump would be the same width and depth (and colour) as the slim pen so it would fit neatly beneath it. It seems far too long for this to be the case, though can appreciate that its a long bump so as to minimise flex of the screen when its pressed up against it (like what would happen if the bump was just in the corner).
  • Totally agree that a camera on the back is a major improvement over one on the screen. That current location on the Duo 1 is a major pain (at least with the current software). However, I am in the camp that's worried about the holding the Duo 2 as a phone that doesn't flip all the way around and lay flat. It's already a little bit too big when holding it up to your ear as a phone. I would think this would make it feel much bigger, even if there are no other problems. Having said all of that, I really do trust that Panos is several steps ahead of us on this. If he thought it was good, it's probably good. I'm certainly willing to hope for the best.
  • A frequent use case for me with the Duo 1 is to leave it folded open. Then it's just like a "regular" smartphone. I frequently put it in my pocket that way, so I won't have to fold it open when I grab it (opening it often requires 2 hands, but leaving it folded open ensures I can grab and use it 1-handed). I am concerned that this camera position and that it won't open flat breaks a primary strength and essential use case with the Duo's physical design. I hope Panos has us covered on this somehow. I confess that I'm not sure how he solves this if the phone doesn't fold open at least well enough to go in a pocket that way. Maybe the camera bump is thinner than it looks, so even though it won't close flat, it gets almost flat?
  • I use it like that too, with and without a bumper. I have used it with a bumper for several months. It's fine even when not completely closed with the screen on the outside. Put a bumper and try it.
  • Why the design language is very similar to Lumia 950/XL ? cheap looking plastic !
  • Design of the 950XL was very nice actually and durable too. Anyway this looks nothing like the 950/XL, since this is glass and that was plastic. Both look good but different.
  • Perhaps these engineering models are plastic but it has been reported that the final device will be glass on the outer surface, so just as expensive looking as any other flagship. Plastic is generally used when the back needs to be removable, as it was in the 950XL. Those days are pretty much gone. As a 950XL owner though, I appreciated it, because I was able to get multiple backplates in leather, wood and PU to change the look of my phone without adding the bulk of a case.
  • Someone make a bumper, that fills in the area near the camera, with a Surface Slim Pen "Silo" and I'll be happy 😊
  • I believe for a foldable smartphone it is the duo's solution. All the other proposals of the competition are so far incomplete: the horrible fold on the display; the fact that you can not open the exhibition outside; the thickness of a brick etc.
  • I'm quite prepared to accept that, at this stage at least, including a camera bump was the only way that they could get a camera of acceptable quality into the device. The quality of the camera was one of the biggest criticisms of the original Duo so they clearly had to do this. My issue is what it will be like to actually hold the Duo 2 in order to take a photo. You won't be able to hold the device with one hand to take a photo in portrait like you would with a regular phone, because folding the screen back would cover the camera. You also won't be able to hold it two-handed to take a landscape shot the way you would with a regular phone. The device will basically have to be open flat in order to take a photo, which will make holding it awkward. I guess we'll see but I think that there's probably no way to make the most of the device ergonomically while also including a flagship-standard camera with the technology currently available.
  • So sounds like MS have ticked the boxes for 5G, better cameras, and nfc. I suppose the question we all want answered now is are they doing something about those embarrassingly dated large bezels that I haven't seen on a Samsung galaxy since the s7 5 years ago?
  • i am hopping there will be two varians which would satisfy different interest.
    i would definitly choose a no bump Camera.😁
  • Probably there is a way to make the two screens fold completely flat in phone mode by designing the other part of the screen with a hole area same size of the camera bump so the camera bump can fit inside when folded
  • Not a fan of that camera bump unless it was really small and small enough to fold the Duo Over. I use the Duo in Phone Mode 90% of the time. This is a must for it to fold flat.
  • Device with productivity idea, photo filters, gaming with sensitive touch, vaporwares, chat, devs …
    Several models ?
    It's difficult to have in first time, see for more with this Duo 2.
    Not possible for it without surprise in this trouble time, or give tools as in enterprise at mainstream public and influencers ?
  • My surface duo back has already cracked from sitting on it in my back pocket. Unless they change the material on the back, this one will crack apart too. Wish warranty would work with damage. This new one better have wireless charging too. The hinge side of the screens should be curved so it seems more like one giant screen.
  • I’m angry because that ugly camera bump will prevent the phone from opening all the way, it ruins the sleekness, it looks like an afterthought, and it’s, well, ugly. Not as bad looking in black, but I feel like I’ve been hoping for red bottoms under the Christmas tree and I got Uggs instead. It hurts.