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Microsoft drops support for the Lumia 640 and 640 XL with the Windows 10 Mobile Fall Creators Update

Microsoft has today published a list (opens in new tab) of supported devices for the upcoming Windows 10 Mobile Fall Creators Update, and it appears the company is omitting yet more Windows phones from its list of supported handsets. This time, the Lumia 640 and Lumia 640 XL series are being abandoned on the Creators Update, with no official upgrade path to the Fall Creators Update.

Many of the flagship Windows 10 Mobile devices that went on sale are still supported, including the HP Elite x3 and Microsoft's own Lumia 950 series. Lumia 550 and 650 owners are also still in support. The list of supported devices for the Fall Creators Update is below:

  • HP Elite x3.
  • HP Elite x3 (Verizon).
  • HP Elite x3 (Telstra).
  • Wileyfox Pro.
  • Microsoft Lumia 550.
  • Microsoft Lumia 650.
  • Microsoft Lumia 950/950 XL.
  • Alcatel IDOL 4S.
  • Alcatel IDOL 4S Pro.
  • Alcatel OneTouch Fierce XL.
  • Softbank 503LV.
  • VAIO Phone Biz.
  • MouseComputer MADOSMA Q601.
  • Trinity NuAns Neo.

Also worth noting; Microsoft lists both the Wileyfox Pro and HP Elite x3 Verizon devices as still in support with the Fall Creators Update, but both of these devices aren't actually on sale. Perhaps new Windows phones (for the enterprise) are in-bound after all.

Microsoft tells us the Windows 10 Mobile Fall Creators Update is expected to roll out in the same timeframe as the PC release, so should be any day now.

Lumia 640 and 640 XL owners are going to be upset at the abandonment of their devices, but this news shouldn't come as much of a surprise. Microsoft has been omitting older devices from its list of supported handsets since Windows 10 Mobile rolled out officially, and with this release that doesn't appear to be changing.

We suspect more devices will be dropped from support with the next release of Windows 10 Mobile too, if there is a "next release."

Zac Bowden
Senior Editor

Zac Bowden is a Senior Editor at Windows Central. Bringing you exclusive coverage into the world of Windows 10 on PCs, tablets, phones, and more. Also an avid collector of rare Microsoft prototype devices! Keep in touch on Twitter: @zacbowden.

  • I dont get it. the fall creators update is a cumulative update for w10m
  • I am finally disappointed in Microsoft.
  • I'm feeling all *meh* because of Microsoft, i guess i have to turn to other platforms Buh I'm still holding on to my 640XL because there is something that draws me back to WM10 sake of how is being setup hence Microsoft left me stranded 😒
  • My WP is now my music player when doing yard work. Just the truth! I kept it for updates, keeping up with the platform. After no more updates I decided to say screw it! But it is really handy! lol
  • Minus Groove.
  • Trust me, I feel stranded here on Android. I miss not on only the live tiles, but many features that were only available on W10M
  • I setup a Google Pixel for someone at work. And I couldn't imagine myself using such a device. It was a dead screen with nothing going on, compared to our awesome tiles on W10M. Alas! Don't know what I'm going to do if I have to replace my 950XL. I'll probably just buy another from somewhere.
  • I'm still rocking Lumia 930 and it will serve me well until...we...get something better. By "better" I mean other than Android and IOS. I mean another Windows device with mobile capabilities.
  • You can even get FCU in Lumia 930 with interop tools registry perfect.....look up interop tools online/youtube
  • I was thinking about it but not sure. Don't want to brick my phone 😁
  • Could you please link to anything about doing this on a Lumia 640?
  • @Lateef Salami Im BEYOND disappointment, Im indiferent
  • Not supported just means they don't feel like testing on those devices. It's not that it won't work its just they don't want to spend the time to test it. So in a general sense Not Support = Untested
  • Do you really think they test windows 10 mobile devices? With all the bugs available, and they tell you to log it in the feedback hub? Heck there is an edge keyboard bug that haven't been fixed since the creators update
  • Of course they test it they have to you can't blindly write or edit software without any testing. They just want to limit what they have to test on so they don't have to test a bunch of devices. Not to mention the 640s are old.
  • Yes they do test it
  • It´s impossible that Microsoft test anything! Switched to IOS a week ago. Have no idea of why i struggled all this years with Microsofts terrible Mobile effort. Everything works perfect, no reboots, no battery drain. I can take a traced run and listen to music. I can listen to Spotify on my Bluetooth speaker without factory reset, rebooting and reinstalling things. I can stream content to my Chromecast. The only thing that doesn’t work like a charm is of course Microsofts apps. Dynamics is **** even on IOS. Microsoft is in some serious trouble if you ask me. I believed that they where the only company that were on the right path but i was wrong. Next thing i will get rid of i my Xbox One and a Microsoft Wireless adapter that works randomly. I will think moore than twice before i adopt anything new from that company. The developers has left them out in the cold for good reasons. Nothing they release is ready for prime time. Tired of struggling with their unfinished products. But I really hope they get their **** together someday. If that ever happens Il may be back. Not sure because I like what I seen so far on the “other” side. Hate Apple and Google but they know how to make things usable and user-friendly.
  • I got the fall update yesterday!! Did anyone else?
  • On what device did you get it?
  • Lumia 950. And, I'm not in ANY insider program..
    My guess is that MS knows how much I like (or used to anyways) WP, and that does not make them happy. They figure they can move on to other things if fans like me would finally STFU... So, they made me a early tester in hopes that my phone would implode. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
    Well, my phone SURVIVED! HAHAHAHA! Jokes on you, Microsoft! Lol😲
  • Man, the article is about the dropping of 640's... I thought you got FCU on one of those devices. But anyway, the 950 series will be the next drop-off
  • Yep. Come November, the 950 series will be 2 years old. That's end of supported lifespan. 
  • Note9 time, MicroMarketing doesn't come with something first.
  • In fairness, Windows 10 Mobile sucks no matter what. I rolled all my 640's back to 8.1 and they're better off for it.
  • yup.mine is 535 DS & 640XL DS. 8.1 is still the best. below is my finding...###535 DS ...1) 8.1 - smooth, responsive (im stick with this version)...2) 10 - stutter / lag...###640 XL DS...1) 8.1 - smooth, responsive...2) 10 (10586) - smooth, responsive (im stick with this version. windows update disable)...3) 10 (14393 or above) - stutter / lag. app with fluent design cause more stutter / lag
  • How about insiders?
  • Just last night I set my wife's 640 & 640XL to Fast Insider and immediately after the reboot the update to the latest version installed. W10 1709 10.0.15254.1 Both devices run as expected. No issues.
  • Will "release preview" also work?
  • I upgraded mine on Release Preview a couple days ago. Working fine. Today, after the announcement.....?
  • Well... It's not worth it to join any program and later make any registry hack. For the upcoming software patches to update built in hardware that's not present on L640's, will brick those phones... And you will have to "go to cry to the church"
  • I am getting lost with the "updates".  It's bizarre that fixes are not provided to handsets for a cumulative update.  I can understand IF new products were coming out but this just doesn't make sense.
  • The captain has abandoned ship. Wat are you guys waiting for?
  • ...Something better then android or IOS for one thing
  • Oh please, don't be a snob.  Android is great.  And there's nothing else to wait for because nothing else is on the horizon.
  • Get off crack. Android is disgusting, as is Google.
  • Wow...  what could possibly be your reasonings behind this opinion?  Or is it just to "be different"? 
  • Getting really mad about phones is a thing apparently.
  • i think it's not about being mad, its people being condescending, and this RLD guy is clearly shoving android in our throat when clearly there is also iPhone.  and Windows mobile isn't technically dead, I'm still using it as a phone and microsofts services.  Windows store is still open, Office, and the most basic and used apps like facebook are still there. 
  • Right. It's still just a phone. If you want to discuss something disgusting, Foxconn has to put suicide prevention nets around their factories to keep their borderline slave laborers from offing themselves. But hey, it's all about tiles that spin around man.
  • You talking about people offing themselves, as in their own choice. If you really want to mention something that's not Flipping Tiles, then how about people, including kids, being executed in Myanmar?
  • It's a sickness.  
  • Just to be different is REASON ENOUGH!... Seems like you're one of those insucre type who are intimidated by people that aren't like you, and the way you think. Trolls like you are enough for anyone to want to "just be different". Do you have a problem with that?
  • Actually, I'm using the One Plus 5 now and it's quite a lovely device, I actually love it and I can't say I loved my Lumia 950 XL (I loved the camera). Android has cleaned up a lot over the years and has a lot of nice functionality WP never got around to getting. Don't be stuck in a bubble like Apple fanboys, making outdated critiques about an OS you don't even use. If you get a stock, or near stock like the OnePlus 5, you can pretty much avoid all Google services if you wish. You can even get the 3rd party app store like Amazon. It's time to give it up, you're being left behind.
  • I'm glad you like it. But the truth is, I still can't handle it. I do have a Galaxy 4 thingamabob, and i simply can't get used to the kiddish interface with cartoonish icons and literally no at-a-glance info unless I put a widget of all the apps I use. And every widget is a performance draw.
  • Good for you maybe lol . I keep clear from anything Google . If nothing on the horizon then why change from win10 mobile ?
  • Because nobody makes phones anymore for w10m?  Will you be saying the same thing in 3,4,5 years when your old w10m phone only lasts an hour due to it's ancient battery? 
  • I can buy batteries for my 640 now .
  • I'll keep using my 950. It's not like it'll stop working all of the sudden.
  • First of all, no.. If my phone gives out today I will be getting a Stupid ass, bad ass, ugly ass, nice ass, cliché ass, app having ass, Note 8.... It's not that big of a deal..
    But, what if I did say yes I will never get an Android device? WTF do you care, and why does it bother you so bad that WP fans are WP fans, and we still want WP device?... How does that affect you?
  • Loved my 1520, was meh about my 950xl aside from the awesome camera. I have a note8 now and it's a BEAST. But I'll still come back if Microsoft gets back in the game even with an enterprise phone. My phone is all business and no snap chat and productivity was always WM10's strong suit. And will suit me just fine.
  • Yeah. Like I'm supposed to dump a perfectly good working phone because some iDroid troll is ready for me to.. Wow! These guys really have no life, worrying about what others are using... How stupid would it be for me to be on Android Central caring about what device those guys are using?.. I don't, and I never will. Only someone who has serious loneliness issues would troll an article based on products they don't even like.
  • iOS looks like Windows 3.1 at this point.  Andriod is security swiss cheese and unless you have a Google Phone you chance of getting any updates is marginal if at all.  They both suck in their own respect.  We are down to crappy choices pick the best crap that you feel like supporting.  I have moved on because I was forced by my company and am not happy with Andriod but that is what I need to live with.  Andriod is not great.  It is a choice when there are not many other choices available.
  • I love Windows phones unfortunately, Microsoft chickened out so easily.
  • If Android is so great why are you not on a Windows only article, an Android article, or on Android central?... You're here, on a Windows Phone SPECIFIC article that has NOTHING to do with anything else but WP... What does this article have to do with Android, and why did you click on it?
    So, you're either a troll, or you love WP.... Which one is it?
  • You might think he is a snob, but I understand him. Every damn time I use an Android device (something I cannot avoid) I feel like smashing the thing on the floor. Everything is stupid on Android: the home screen with the ridiculously limited grid of windows 95 icons (yes, Android has widgets, but aside the weather and clock what apps prioritize widgets?), the absurd file structure, the horrible GUI in general, etc. At least iOS has some coherence in the icons on their ultra retarded grid on the home screen. Don't get me wrong, with Windows 10 Microsoft took a huge dump on the Windows awesome GUI (Edge lack of live tiles when pinning sites is half of all the problems), but overall it's still not as horrible as Android. Unfortunately, Windows 10 Mobile is very close to not being worth the hassle anymore, whereas Windows phone was pretty enough to make it worth it even if it was lagging behing Android in apps. The gazillions of bugs in Windows 10 Mobile and the GUI inconsistencies which almost rival Android's (Outlook Mail anyone) do not help either. As flybywire54 said, some of us are waiting for something better than Android or iOS. I would be tempted to try Jolla's Sailfish OS GUI if I had the chance, but they have so many issues I'm afraid to invest the time and energy. Unfortunately, I will probably have to give up windows mobile any day now. That will be a sad day for me.
    And, what's up with these lonely iDroid fans caring, wishing, praying, hoping, and downright begging, WP fans to switch?
    WTF do they care what anyone wants, uses, or dreams about using??🤔🤔🤔
    That's one reason enough not to want to get a played out, last fad ass iDroid device... The thought of being grouped in with these trolling, dependent on WP fans for attention, losers...
    This is Windows PHONE Central, and We love WP..
    Get over it, move on, and get a life..... Windows on mobile is what we want, and it's what we will have. If that ruins your day then there's the door.. We we're here before you hating trolls, and we'll be here after you.
    😛 🤓😆😛 🤓😆😛 🤓😆
  • Well said 👍 👍
  • **** man, you really have: 1. An over active imagination about future hardware choices. 2. Far too much time on your hands. Losers? Their platform has 80% market share. Windows has zero. Effectively zero. I use a Windows phone before you start spouting playground "iDroid" *****. Get a grip.
  • Answer this... Just like iDroid trolls,
    1. Why do you lose sleep over peoples comments?
    2. Why do you lose sleep over peoples comments?
    3. Why do you lose sleep over peoples comments?
    4. Why do you lose sleep over peoples comments?
    5. Why do you lose sleep over peoples comments?
    6. And, why do in the universe do you think I give a rats as about what you personally think about me?🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔❓
  • You really do base your identity on here, don't you? It's a comments forum. This place will be like PreCentral in three years. Where will you go then? There is no next for you. It's android or iOS. Binary choice long term.
  • Yes, I do, and Daniel Rubino is my father. I have WC underwear on right now! Wanna see????
    And you will still lose sleep over what I choose to do, obviously because you are so concerned about my well being💜💜... Nevertheless, I could care **** about what you do, and the feeling is not mutual. So, my question remains... WTF do you care? Answer.
  • Roflmao.
  • Wait a minute... Look at your profile picture. 😂😂😂😂😂 OK, ok. I get it now.. This is a joke. Man, you almost had me. You silly goose⛽⛽⛽
  • I always dont get it whats this thing with you.. all the way back @ phonearena days... first i have never seen anywhere people talk bad or diry on windows phone (though eveeybody know wp/wm sucks) yet you are among the very few individuala that talk sh**t about ios/droid. Got me thinking insecurity complex got you
  • Wait a minute.. 😂😂😂😂 wait. Hahahaha. You're saying that on Phone Arena those trolls never talked bad about WP, but you remember me specifically talking bad about iDroid?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
    And, I have some kind of inferiority complex about a phone I can have anytime I please? One, I'm most likely getting? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂... Wait a minute.. Hahahaha! I can't breathe, I can't breath over here. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.. Stop! Hahahaha hahahaha.. You gotta be joking!!! Lol. I had a Lumia 1520! Lol. A terrific device, with a GREAT OS!.. LOL., But, you're saying that I was trolling on Android? Lol Hahahahahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.... Like you're doing now!... Wait a minute.... Wait, wait wait.. So, you say WP sucks, and you're on a totally WP exclusive article talking about someone trolling??❓❓❓❓❓❓ BBbhhjaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!! Lol... Hahahahahahaha😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🎈🎈 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓😏😏😏😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆... Dude, lol. Lol. Lol. Lol.. When does your comedy special premier? You're gonna be rich. WHHEEEEEEEEW. WOW! Thanks man. Lol. I needed that.... Uggggggggg lol.😛😛😛😛
  • 🤣🤣🤣🤣
  • Lol. My guts are literally all over the floor. This guy is like watching Eddie Murphy Raw.. Freekin hilarious. 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
  • 🤣🤣😅😅😂😂
  • Hahaha!! Huh, Ahhhhhh. Lol dudes been smoking bath salts laced with crack, and rat poison. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
    Sittin over there with two different shoes on, and $hit.. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
  • 😴😴😴
  • 😌
  • First I meant that you are talking bad about others OSs (which is not true they re just fine not like the picture you draw over here) now not then.... Then you take on anyone challenging wp like an enemy... lotta'f harsh words... STOP THAT..... I love tech I have devices from all OSs thats why I never understand some guys like you thinking the world revolves around A billion Windows Devices
  • Where you at??? Where?.. Tell me that. Where are you at?
  • Right here
  • No, you're not there. You're where I say you are.. And, I say you're on WINDOWS PHONE CENTRAL.. Better recognize.
  • Refer my answer (Right here), but I dont like when you call people stupid like the one above over simple things like this
  • Sorry Rodney,  its WINDOWS CENTRAL....not windows phone central!  stopped being that years ago when MS stopped supporting phone!
  • 🤣🤣🤣
  • Doesn't matter if it's Betty Crocker Central.. Have some respect for people's prerogative, and quit intentionally pestering people about their opinions. You know there's a lot of Windows fans here, and still a lot of WP fans here. That's the nature of the site... People here are gonna want Windows in their pocket. We've had it that way for over a decade, and it shouldn't surprise you that we wish for more... It doesn't matter if YOU don't agree with that; and if you don't agree with that, then fine. But, if you, and the other trolls, can't discuss these topics in a non pestering fashion then just keep it to yourself. It's as simple as that, and even a fool would agree with that. If you don't want people calling you a troll, and you want people to respect your opinion, quit grouping yourself with the pathetic trolls.
    IDK why you want to do that anyways. You're probably the only one of the trolls who has some amount of sense, and can make good points. Boggles my mind.
  • Please take your own advice.  
  • Just a heads up from a recent 950XL to Galaxy S8+ convert (phone broke, no choice): Android has a launcher called Launch 10 that has the tile interface including resizing tiles, LIVE TILES (paid), tile notifications (paid), folders, pin/unpin, and the jump list for the apps. Sure, the rest of the OS is Android, but the home screen and app list are what you'll interact with most. It helped me during my transition, but I'm trying to use what came installed on the S8+. My biggest gripe right now is Outlook on Android won't load all my Gmail calendars. It only loads the main one. Thankfully the pre-installed calendar app loads everything. Why can the Windows mobile calendar app load everything, but the Android Outlook version can't? Seems like a basic feature these days. Why the S8+? I considered the Pixel 2, but my 950XL had more features. With the S8+ I'm gaining features instead of losing them. The retina unlock is faster than the 950XL, fingerprint reader is placed well for my large hands, and that screen! It also has a microSD card slot. I took the card out of the Lumia and dropped it in without any issues. I do miss Windows mobile, but buying another 950XL on Ebay was tough to justify.
  • We know🙄
  • I won't be deterred.
  • Would just like to say I'm not here trying to force anybody to switch. I only put down my Lumia 950 three months ago. I'm a Windows fan, I loved Windows Phone, and it was hard for me to switch too. A big part of that was thinking I couldn't get an Android phone that could perform as well as a WP. Two or three years ago, that may have been the case, but times have changed and there is at least one with the OnePlus 5 and I've unexpectedly fallen in love with it like I used to with Lumias. I get all my Microsoft stuff (sans the Windows Photo Gallery and Movies & TV), it's blazing fast, always getting bug and feature updates, isn't loaded with 3rd party apps (Google built-in apps can be disabled), and just provides a modern experience for a smartphone. People get caught up in their bubble and don't realize the improvements made elsewhere, hence me mention Apple fanboys who have no clue of Windows improvements. If you want to stick with your WP, so be it, but all this trash talking about other OS isn't necessary and isn't making any Windows fan any better than Android fanboys trolling.
  • Nice!
  • Lol... Well as an owner of the IDOL 4S, this should buy me a little time. 
  • I just picked one up myself.  Where I live now, I am rather limited by which phones I can get as I am with T-Mobile and require wifi calling.  This should fit the bill.  How are you liking or Idol 4?
  • The Idol4 has been great! Upgrading from the 640 I automatically seen improvements in different areas. Speed was one of the big differences. I'm sure the 4GB of ram is uses made the difference.  
  • So farewell to my Lumia 640Xl now its time to switch to Android Phone
  • Yeah , those droids never get updated
  • if you buy cheap samsung and lg phones or unknown brands this is what you get but even like this most snapdragon/exynos phones support custom roms unlike windows phone devices
  • Every Android phone gets update every few weeks directly by Google. New features are added, APIs are updated and some security issues are patched. That is how even 5+ year old devices can still support new apps. Android version updates aren't that important these days. You won't even tell a difference with most manufacturer skins.
  • Protect the scroogle/lagdrid hive.  Lagdroid NEVER gets updated every few weeks, they haven't even updated the KRACK vulnerability and most android phones will not get it.
  • Every Android phone regularly receives updates and new APIs through Google Play Services. This how Google fixed the fragmentation issue from a few years ago.
  • I hate how Android requires that you install all apps on internal memory and not the SD card. It is mess up how Android changed their OS and stopped giving you the option to install them on the SD card. It just made Android phones more expensive since you have to pay through the nose for internal memory. 
  • That sounds nice but is simply not true.  Most androids are lucky if they even get security patches.  Since the Vast majority of androids are low end/mid grade, they don't get patches.  Even now the other than the Nexus/Pixels, no phones have the wifi patch and most won't get it.  Same with the Bluetooth hack discovered last month.  Upgrades and security pushed to devices is not android's strength. Google may update the play store and a few other things, but that is not the same as a system update, bug fix update or most importantly a security update.  Other than the Nexus/Pixel google phones and top of the line samsungs and LG's, the vast majority of androids seldom see security updates pushed to the phone, let alone a system update.  The reasons for this are myriad but mostly it is because of the carriers and manufacturers.  
  • My OnePlus 5 gets security, bug, and feature updates every month.
  • To put your comment into context, some cheap (comparable to the Lumia 640 series prices) Androids like the Nokia 5 & 6 and the recently released Xiaomi Mi A1 (Android One) are the only devices from well known brands which get monthly software and security updates. All others cheap devices either get updated once a quarter (Moto G5 series, Honor 6X) or once a year.
  • So annoying. I have been passionately attached to Lumia 640 XL and today, Microsoft disappointed 😞 me. It hurt me so bad that my 640 XL is abandoned. Well, I will hold onto it till thy kingdom come.
  • It's hard to do this Microsofts defense, I have a Sony Xperia XA Ultra that was literally released like a year ago that has all but been abandoned by Sony. 
  • who ese got a 1703 update on the lumia 950 xl about a couple a days ago
  • Me . Got the 1703 few days back on my 640
  • Only native W10M devices left. Also, HP Elite x3 (Verizon)...hmm.
  • It's sad.
    Anyway, what's that X3 Verizon?
    Does it mean some organisations are really demanding X3 through Verizon?
  • Ours is. Any major phone deployments are preferred through Verizon. The only reason we didn't deploy Windows phones recently was because the lack of Verizon support. Oh well, may I'll be the only person in the company to get one now as we have moved on after years of waiting.
  • Well that just moves me even more closer to the Samsung I've been looking at. Man am I going to miss Live tiles though.
  • Samsung ? You want to fry an egg ?
  • Using Launcher 10 from the Play store allows you to get the entire Windows 10 Mobile tile experience, including live tiles. For live tiles, you have to pay an extra $5.99, and another $3.99 to get rid of the ads, but for basically adding $10 to the price of the phone you can turn it into a nice Windows Phone with live tiles. With all the extra apps on Android, you won't miss Windows 10 Mobile any longer. You can ingtegrate Cortana, install Edge, and pretty much do stuff like you do now. I installed LineageOS on my new device and now get all the regular security updates when Google patches security holes, so no worries there either. I get updates every Thursday morning and the security updates comes once per month.
  • It's better to checkout OnePlus 5 instead of Samsung.
  • Ouch.
  • Anyone know if the mobile update is rolling out?
  • Just got one update on my 640
  • You'll get cumulative update every month. But not Fall Creators update as non-insider user.
  • Was hesitant but now time to replace my old 640 by a new 950 . Cheap nowadays
  • This is bad news to me. I am using 640 XL.
  • 😂😂😂
    Then you got three options.
    1. Keep going with no updates, and wait for MS's mobile device.
    2. Get a stankdroid phone
    3. Get an iPhone🤣🤣
  • 4. buy a Lumia 950 / Lumia 950 XL / HP Elite x3 /  Acatel Idol S4 You are welcome ;)
  • That's a waste of money... Just get a Stankdroid device, so at least you'll have some resale value when it's time to switch back to Windows.