Now that the Windows 10 Anniversary Update is out, Microsoft has shifted focus over to the next major update for Windows 10 codenamed 'Redstone 2'. As Insiders, it's our job to help Microsoft test these major updates weeks and months in advance, so it should come as no surprise to hear Microsoft is now ready to begin a new round of preview builds for Insiders.
Sources who are familiar with the matter say Microsoft is aiming to get the first Redstone 2 build out for Insiders this week at the earliest, with the latest time being sometime next week. Microsoft is wasting no time in getting the next major update for Windows 10 tested by Insiders, and that's exciting given Insiders have had to wait a few weeks since the last build dropped.
Core Insider Program on Twitter has heard that the build Microsoft wants to drop first is build 14901, which according to my contacts has been in internal testing since Saturday. If internal testing has gone well, we should see this build drop this week. If not, then we'll see a drop happen next week instead.
Regardless, Microsoft is now ready to start dropping Redstone 2 builds for Insiders and begin testing and collecting feedback, which is exciting, to say the least.
Stay tuned at Windows Central for more regarding Windows 10 Insider Preview builds and Windows 10 Redstone 2 news.
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Microsoft preparing to drop first Windows 10 'Redstone 2' build for Insiders this week
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As far as I'm concerned redstone 2 turns Microsoft's focus from PC to mobile. Can't wait for the new features and apps that will come!!
What's the point?
you still have no market share, no pokemon go and I would guess that the few customers you have want to leave to Android.
I know I do
If you want to keep complaining about msft without a constructive criticism, keep out of Windows Central and just move on with what you like. Don't tell me you enjoy this. I have seen a lot of your comments written in the same way again and again.
Where is updated for phone...????
I adore the insider program. Frustrating at times but yet fantastic all around. Keep em coming Microsoft.
Intriguing. Wonder if it is anything beyond minor code cha ges to test the core design. Not expecting major features this quickly.
RS2 isn't due until the spring, so I think I'll stay in the release ring until the new year and let the fanboys do the heavy lifting. Good luck with that.
I'm hoping see a 64 bit version and more win32 injection
Wow. I guess I better get moving on my clean install of the Anniversary Update. Wanted to do this to fix a few MSA issues.
Hope it comes with centralized download manager, OTG support and LED notifications for supported devices
ready for new builds :) will put my wife's 930 on production though as she kept nagging about rebooting to install updates the last couple of months :)
I heard RS2 was a reboot around a Linux core
The best way to be a microsoft Insider is to have extra gear to test the builds on so if you can get a cheap but good used PC and good used Windows 10 mobile capable sdmrt phobe & become a Windows insider. It can be fun but some builds can brick your test device so make a backup ISO disk
I have the Windows 10 aniverssary update on my old -IBM- ThinkCentre business PC. I wont put any windows insider builds on it but I have a laptop PC and A PC I built from a empty case up to test the Redstone-2 insider builds on. So bring it on Microsoft show me what you got !
Hey Zac, great article, but why wouldn't you mention that this next update is supposed to be mobile focused? It IS a big deal!
Switching to slow ring, at least for the time being...
cool :)
Should
Looks like i shoild go back to be an insider
So no polishing the mess that is RS1 and dive at the deep end which will be RS builds that will be even messier? Great planning, msft.
Way many disagree with you, anyway, what is your issue?
Let’s start with Edge. it couldn't even load this page now, I had to use chrome to open it. Whenever you start typing in Edge, it messes up what you type by putting the first letter somewhere else, if you start type too fast after opening edge or loading a page where you typing it. Every time on start-up there is some sort of a pop up window that disappears quickly, but still is visible. None of the wireless screen sharing option work properly with my TV from my SP4, its all glitchy and horrible. Calendar, email, groove, Cortana - all work unreliably, sometimes they do what is needed, but half the time it’s just a joke. Edge is not opening most of the websites that use Estonian ID card security features and says "its vintage tech" while it’s just because the stupid browser doesn’t support the technology, cause no one at MSFT bothered to check what people actually need. The search in the page user interface in Edge is vintage though and takes up so much space... I can go on and on, but at the end of the line, everything that MSFT is releasing nowadays is just an unfinished beta, not suitable for human use. They seemed to forget, that not all of us are "Insiders" and some people expect a €1500 device to run a smooth OS and not make me tear my eyes out.
Crazy how far this has come since the beginning. So many issues but now its solid. Only a couple bugs here and there but no OS is 100% perfect.
I will switch to fast ring, until it gets on slow too. Excited
We are excited to see what RS2 and 3 will bring to W10, lets see how things will (or suppose to) work together.
Firstu fix the thing you broke thru annuversary update like vanihing HDD etc
by the way how many of you think that MS ditch us Today without any Anniversary update for non insiders ?
Just Like if u think it ditches and unlike if u think it release the update today. No need of comments, i know what people gonna write. hahaha
lol.... u rich kids have no. of phones and can't understand the pain of middle class mobile users. We were suffering for past 1 yr i think but still no solutions. Yes it improved a lot but there r very basic issues in the OS which need to be resolved ASAP, with anniversary update they only trying to get new features but no improvements, u see more people whining than me after Ann. update.
I have to use my brother mobile to set alarm and wakeup in the morning, bcz after .494 production build update ringtones and alarms volume decreased very low that I always miss the alarms..... i am heavily depends on MS Edge as we don't have lot of apps like Android, the freezing issues cause me to pay anything twice for me.
I don't want to talk about battery issue anymore, no use of it.
I tweeted MS, gave feedbacks but got no response, bcz ?
There is a volume change with alarms in Anniversary Update -- they are quiet the first time played, then if not dismissed, they come back louder and louder. The final volume is either the same as or louder than the original alarm before the Anniversary Update. Now, if you have a really long alarm audio file (say a 5 minute song), then the whole first play through will be quiet, which could be an issue, but personally, I prefer the new way they manage the volume increases over the previous one that went from silent to loud in a few seconds.
I have found Edge to be a solid browser now too. I don't doubt that there may be a few sites that don't work with it, but I'm not immediately aware of any. Great browser now. For me, the only downgrade I can think of off the top of my head compared to the prior Windows 10 release, and it's minor, in the process of being improved, and really an app more than an OS issue, is the new UWP Skype app is still a little buggy. I also miss the Kids Corner, but I understand that was not used by many of us and was removed intentionally, so I don't consider that something that broke with the update.
Compared to 8.1, there are a few additional problems for me -- e-mail still doesn't scale to the right size, so I often have to manually zoom, battery life is not quite as good (to be expected from an OS that's doing a lot more). But those are relatively minor problems in a sea of improvements.
with new cumulative update .545 battery drains completely to 0 in 10hrs.... i only use WIFI, disabled all BG apps, most of the apps I have notification OFF. i went on to a trip for 2 days after 16hrs my mobile got switched OFF
@Like wise1, when you say you "only use WIFI," do you mean you've turned off your cellular connection, so it's not a phone anymore, or do you mean WIFI + cellular, but no Bluetooth? If using cellular, battery life is HIGHLY DEPENDENT on cellular signal strength -- low strength (1 bar) can consume all of your battery in a few (2-4) hours as the phone struggles to maintain a connection, while high signal strength (4 or 5 bars) can sip at the battery so it lasts for 24+ hours. 10-16 hours doesn't sound bad at all to me if the phone is not in Airplane mode. In fact 16 hours sounds quite good. One way to test if it's a signal-strength issue is to put your phone in Airplane Mode and make sure all the radios remain off, then see how long the battery lasts. Does it last longer? If so, it's the radios that are eating up your battery life.
Also, when you do you use an app, how do you close it? Do you just hit the back arrow, which leaves many apps running in the background (depends on the app), or do you long-press the back button and swipe down to actually close the app?
Lastly, if you're saying that your battery life has decreased recently, even though most of us have found that the recent updates have extended our battery life, keep in mind that all batteries do slowly fail with age. A phone with a battery that lasted 20 hours when new, will last less than 20 hours 1 year later, and much less than that 2 years later. The failure rate of the batteries are on a bell curve, so every once in a while, someone will get a battery that just fails within a few months or a year, while some lucky soul will get one that's still going strong 4 years later, but in general, a phone battery should still hold the majority of it's charging capacity for about 18 months, before you really notice that its time-between-charges has decreased significantly. And running it all the way to dead before recharging can dramatically accelerate battery failure (so it won't hold a charge). Keeping the battery well charged most of the time greatly extends the overall life of the battery.
let me clear u on this, I am only using WIFI not cellular data, I only use cellular Data when I am in Travel only, that too I check msgs once in 1/2 n hr and close mobile Data.
The problem is not just me it is present with my friend mobiles who are using L730, L640, L640XL... recently I switched back to win8.1 and checked how long my phone keeps working, it works more than 24hr easily. I always take care about my background apps, I close all the apps after exiting. I use to take care all the things in my phone but still its draining like a HELL.
Before sleep my mobile battery is at 100% and by the time I wokeup after 6 hrs it reduced to 70-75%. Its in idle and how it is draining battery ? I disabled all the bg apps in settings.
I moved my desktop and laptop to Fast in order to get the AU sooner but they've been dropped back to Release Preview now. My Surface 3 has been on Fast since fairly early Redstone builds so I'll leave it there and see how RS2 looks early on. It only gets used while I'm commuting so I can live with issues on it. My main gripe during RS1 development was that they broke WiFi HotSpot and I had lots of issues connecting it to my Lumia 950 XL, which was also on the Fast ring. They sorted that out just before the AU officially dropped so hopefully it stays that way.
Could somebody tell me the link to these wallpapers?
RS2 will have delta updates. Yay!
FULL DARK THEME FOR CORTANA!!!!!!!!!!
Switching my primary devices to slow ring !
Switching my primary devices to slow ring !
I'm looking forward to the new live tiles and the new action center, and now MS is focusing on mobile this year and the next
They said they will, but come one, they broke every promise for mobile, so they will break this one too.
Well RS2 and 3 will be more for mobile devices
Why MS hates production build users ?
They don't. They just hate you because you whine about nothing without giving an idea of what it is you think you're whinging about. Stop whining and MS will love you as much as everyone else.
Eagerly Waiting...
Edge extensions for Mobile please!
That would be fantastic. I'm not all that optimistic we'll get those, but if possible and can be done without violating security or battery life requirements (or with a choice to let users opt in after understanding the risks), then extension support would be an amazing productivity enhancement. The LastPass extension on Edge on mobile would vastly increase the speed and amount of work I could do on my phone.
Let me turn off insider fast ring, I want to be able to use my phone. I'll turn it on for the later updates.
My Lumia 830 has never left the Release Preview ring, just like my Lumia 640 will never leave the Fast Ring.
This alone confirms to me that the singularity will actually occur
Push the button.
Don't tell Ninjacat what to do.
MS needs to fix this current RS1 release first. When that's done and it's to the public's liking and acceptance then anything afterwards will be great. The problem with MS is that in trying to satisfy public dimming opinion they're releasing unfinished or quirky builds then have to fix. Why not do proper testing on the lowest end hardware to ensure that anything released to the higher end will have a better chance of not having any issues. I sometimes wonder if MS hires the rejects from Google and Apple to work on Windows Mobile.
I think people (like the media) are turning a blind eye to, you know, how software development works. Has everybody forgotten how Android 5.0 Lollipop ran when it was first released? Or any first release of iOS ever? This is how it works. Just like with Threshold, Microsoft will work on RS2 while simultaneously releasing patches for RS1 over the course of the next six months. Don't like it, you can always move to...oh wait, every other platform works in a similar way. They spend a whole year simultaneously working on the next big release while fixing the last one. The only difference is that Microsoft is way more open about their progress and does it way faster.
Thing is, they do work on existing builds (in the form of cumulative updates) and fix issues with them.
Yeah, because software developers always wait until they have the current release working perfectly before they start on the next version... or not. This is the way Windows has always been developed and other software by other developers too. It's more obvious to us now because they're releasing builds to Insiders but they have always been working on multiple versions at the same time. If they didn't on such major projects then the time between versions would be much greater. Some might say that that wouldn't be a bad thing and they may even be right but that's not the way the software industry works or has worked any time in recent memory.
I would love to see tablet mode get drastically better with RS2.
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Tablet mode, more unified dark and light themes, horizontal Start Screen on Mobile (and horizontal Action Center), interactive Live Tiles, more customization (translucency on Mobile anyone?). Those are the big features I'm looking for.
I like this list. But I'd be happy with the return of the stability that has been missing since WP 8.1. Cortana notificatons work one month then stop working for no reason, same with live tiles and notifications, battery reliable some days then horrible the next. Outlook Mail still has a long way to go, Bluetooth & Wi-FI issues, apps crashing, etc. And these are all issues on Release Preview builds. These basic things NEED to improve. It's been over a year!
It's still a faster experience than Threshold 1. But I agree there are those lingering issues that need to and will be fixed as cumulative patches over the coming months.
Landscape mode yea
Rs2 pre-release 14901 under testing :D could be the one relesed to insiders
I wish on Mobile I could get the Fast Ring app updates but be in the Release Preview for the OS releases.
I would love that too.
For that to be possible, those apps would have to be precluded from using features of the new OS builds, which would mean that no new OS features could be tested publicly in apps until the OS was released publicly. That's not going to happen.
My question is, what is the space and ram requrements going to be. I'm sure this is going to come with a TON of debug code in tow.
Internal testing? Yeah that's a good joke! And when can we expect the next windows central app update? Tired of the CRASHING and notifications failing!!!
How is the Windows Central app related to the insider builds?
Um I don't know. They both crash and have bugs?
Wow!! and ready... bring it on!!
Isn't RS2 supposed to be bringing x64 bit windows mobile?
yes i think it may actually later in the builds bring 64bit support. I think they maybe be a lot of changes on the mobile side coming in rs2 and being polished off in rs3.
I certainly hope so. High end Windows phones are being held back a little bit because of it.
As far as I know it's been rumored but not confirmed to be coming in RS2, but everything I've seen says it's coming eventually.
64-bit has done absolutely nothing for other platforms so let's hope it does something for Windows 10.
That is not true. It may not have done a ton for iOS, which is already a very streamlined operating system, but Android's RAM management would just not work on a 32-bit system. I honestly could explain that better but the change from 32-bit to 64-bit is extremely complicated and typically leads to better RAM management, further potential in where an OS can advance, etcetera.
Android still wastes most of the ram, it can just handle more of it. Performance wise 64 is actually less efficient on small programs and apps since the overhead ia four times as big on 64 bit to allocate memory. 99% of all apps perform worse on 64 bit. Android would actually work better on 32 bit with the new memory manager that came with 5.0
Yes, 32-bit is more efficient for small programs (exactly why lower end Windows tablets are 32-bit but on the higher end 64-bit would give quite a few advantages and the processing power available neglects that overhead. I'm not saying it would be good for low end Windows phones (if there are low end 64-bit ARM processors...I'm not certain) but I could certainly see the advantages for future high end Windows phones...especially something like the rumored Surface Phone.
No. There is no performance gain at all, only more overhead over 32 bit
Not really, it just adds overhead over the already crippled performance of that "os"
That too.
The major advantage for most people who move to a 64-bit OS is the ability to utilise more than 4GB of RAM. That's not an issue for phones yet so a 64-bit phone OS is not likely to make any practical difference for any phone user. It's more about pleasing spec-whores and future-proofing.
Well, here comes more 1000 positions for some UI elements and... thats it xD Mobile Focused!
You do know there are a lot of difference between TH2 and RS1, right? Other than UI elements moving around?
So you think an OS is just an UI?
Anyone on phones other than x50 series or any OEM equivalent can say goodbye to RS2. Windows mobile is evolving and won't wish to carry antiques and associated issues. So to all those die hards whom still hang on to Lx20's , upgrade.
have actually seen a picture of the rs2 build running on the 830.
Yeah I feel like that's coming eventually. I'm on the 929 so I am certain my days are numbered. I hope they allow RS2, but I wouldn't be surprised if I get cut off at some point.
Bad thing is, I don't have an upgrade path. So not sure what to do when that day comes.
You can't buy a modern device?
929 is Verizon, IIRC, and there's no modern Windows phone on Verizon.
Switch to att I left after 20 years and don't miss big red.
No AT&T coverage for miles around here. Verizon is only option. Sad. I'd MUCH prefer to be on AT&T for the phone selection, but obviously I can't switch to a carrier that doesn't have any towers in the area.
I can certainly relate with the struggle. While I liked many of TMo's "uncarrier" moves, I have to be on AT&T because T has almost no service in Nebraska and LA in California (where my sister and I are sharing plans). Not complaining, though, ATT has been very reasonable and the service/speed is very good.
You know what's crazy? The unlocked 950 XL actually has the Verizon CDMA band support but Verizon is actively blocking its SIMs from registering on to the VZ network from Lumia 950s. Verizon can be such a pain. Monopolistic control freaks.
Ain't it the truth.
Phones that can handle it will get it. Windows 10 is already doing phenomenally better with updates than Android. We may not be iOS but we're getting there.
Whut? Plenty of third party devices are (still) supported and will do so for the forseable future, especially those that launched with Windows 10 Mobile. Meanwhile, for the Lumia series, there is no indication that the third generation Lumia devices are getting cut of. Let alone the 4th generation. The only Lumia's that are really at risk of getting cut of by now are the Lumia 929 and 1520.
This is the best platform ever. Updates are the reason why I love my windows Mobile OS. That's why I will forever be a windows fan. Either the OS dies or not. Just hoping a better hard ware is released next year. Though getting the Lumia 950xl at the next black Friday deal. Lol. Loving me some Lumia feeling me some updates
Yup, it is my number one thing to talk about to all the jealous android users I meet. ☺ "Oh, you got an update last year? I got 14 last month.
That's the ish, keep bombing em y'all.
So the anniversary update I'll be geting on or after the 16th is a Redstone build? The final Redstone 1 build? Then eventually we on production will start getting the Redstone 2 stuff? I've never been an insider yet. Guess i should have paid more attention.
On 16th (or whatever the release date is), you'll get Anniversary update (Complete Redstone1). Insider's will soon begin to receive the first development builds of Redstone 2. If you decide to pay insider programme more attention now, I'd recommend jumping to Slow Ring for now and keeping an eye on WC articles. When the first RS2 build has been released if you feel you can deal with the bugs that will be listed, and want to test it, then jump to Fast Ring. Otherwise, you can just wait til a future fast ring build (or stable slow ring) build before jumping. Just remember the insider builds are Beta testing builds, so they won't be as stable at times as non-insider builds
If you have never paid attention to the insider builds, stay on Release Preview at first. Neither on Slow nor on Fast ring. You will regret it if you do.
Release Preview will deliver pre-release version of cumulative updates for RS1, so the build number will remain 14393 and the release number after that will increase, just has been the case for TH2 build 10586. They are the same updates as Production users but a bit sooner and maybe the odd one that gets superseded before release to Production. I too would suggest that to begin with, until you hear that a Slow or Fast build has been released that most people are finding to be relatively stable. Even then, be prepared for some issues with more to be expected on fast than Slow.
I'm so excited for this!
Sounds like the perfect time to switch to Retail branch. Hopefully it won't be as bad as those RS builds from before the spring.
I'm going to try to be just a little brave and go to slow ring from fast.
i think the rs2 builds will be better from the beginning because the main onecore of 10 is pretty good at this point, but as with all preview software you can expect bugs crashes and all the other good stuff.
Shouldn't be if they are just building upon the current RS 1 build. The first RS build on Insider program was a complete rework from what I understand.
YOLO!
My main laptop is now on Release Preview (moved it the moment RS1 was released to, ah, Release) but my new HP tablet is, and will remain, on the Fast Ring, so I can be on the forefront.
Heh, have my home desktop, primary phone and Surface 3 all in the fast ring =P
Hopefully it fixes the KB covering the textboxes.
Does someone know what will be new for Mobile in Redstone 2 ? Thanks
Ability to open Multiple windows I hope
No firm info on features. Likely just plumbing on first few releases, so don't expect too much for awhile just like RS1.
yup i doubt if you will start seeing new stuff until at least september or so, I think the new build will drop after wednesday.
I think september is a bit early too... I'm expecting november-december for the biggest features and then start the year with bugfix/performance/reliability builds.
So again work at the core of Windows only. I am dying for interactive tiles, hope they appear soon.
I'm already excited though. RS2 is going to be nice.
Just like rs1. Nothing new
Have you gone back and used Threshold in a while ? Cause, sure, there's nothing really MAJOR, but there's a huge difference between Threshold and Redstone. I couldn't stand when I went back to Threshold.
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@mflotron, in the beggining they will say that even will implement a feature that will allow the OS to upgrade itself. In the end, the only thing we will get will be some new store "update" button position (they have tried almost every position already, so i look forward to see their creativity).
Instead of buttons positions we need big changes and update the UI to something similar to pc, we only have tiles, they are awesome, but old now. And what about the phone we are waiting? The surface phone that can run win32 apps? They don't even give us a date.... Say something, at least give us hope!
The thing is: Design department of Windows Mobile must be just a few amators changing UI element positions to see if it looks "cool". In the past year appeared some UI concepts (made by SINGLE fans) that make actual WM UI look like a bad joke, so i really don't get how those amators are keeping their job.
Regarding coders, MS must have some of the best in the world, the shame is that they are all focused on Desktop version, while the interns keep mobile running, on a baby steps basis. I found so neat that they almost made a party for the chaseable live tiles, without noticing that now people can't even open those live tiles without going to the article shown (while keeping them turned on, which is the purpose) xD Maybe next thing is reinvent the turn off of your phone, but removing any way to turn it on... We'll see!
Lol...this is the first article about RS 2. Give it some time.
Don't know if there is any word on that but I hope they bring at least horizontal start screen and split screen with two apps
PDF Reader, Kids Corner and FM Radio.
Bring on RS2!
Sweet
Great future i see
Will redstone 2 focus more on Mobile or PC?
As previous info and sources said, it will be focused on Mobile. Since those builds will be released with the launching of the rumored Surface Phone.
Where exactly are these sources? I've not seen any, or is it more fan fantasy again?
It was from a direct MS source either last year or beginning of this year. They stated themselves that RS1 was going to be PC focused due to the bigger consumer market, then RS2 will be 10Mobile focused.
Yeah, the same that told that RS1 was going to be released at the same time on pc and mobile, that pokemon go was coming to WM, that all 8.1 devices would get 10, and a lot of other broken promises?
Keep yourself on the defensive side, if you don't wanna get disapointed.
I'm not sure if anyone ever said that W10 was coming to all W8.1 phones, I think they said since the beginning that W10 would only be supported by phones with 1Gb of ram
You should be sure :) They even stated all 8.0: http://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-claims-windows-10-upgrades-all-l...
That only lasted a couple of months until they realised it wasn't possible due to bad feedback. You choosed to ignore them for over a year.
Couple months? Then show me the date of the first article stating that it wouldn't come to all devices :) All you do is keep talking, but in the 2 replies you didn't provide 1 link... Fanboy much? Oh we both know you are ;) (to be fare, most people there knows it) cough*zwame*cough
As I've said it before, in case you prefered to look the other way...
Look, it's right here: "we PLAN to" (nov.14)
http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/13/7216421/microsoft-says-every-lumia-wi...
"NOT EVERY phone" (jan.15):
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2874481/microsoft-reneges-on-windows-10-u...
Hater much? Oh we both know you are ;)
Yikes you actually got 1 thing right :D So proud of you :') Yet, your lumia must be crying as, with a better soc, is left behind while lumia 430 is supported xD
Make that 2 :D because I'm running the last redstone on it :)
Here's your link:
http://www.nokiapoweruser.com/hack-to-get-windows-10-mobile-redstone-bui...
Actually that was pretty easy :)
You're still at 1 right... "HACK" is the keyword here ;) But by the way, how does it run? Do you have performance issues?
Nope. It's a simple app that let's you chage your device name. That app only has acess to the registry part that MS let's you view (and maybe change). There's a lot that you don't even see unless you hack your device and unlock the bootloader.
It's running very well. Like wp8 I would say, but I lost my beloved glance screen. Maybe that's one reason they don't recommend/support it oficially :)
Still an HACK. Without a computer and a 3rd party app you can't do it, so there goes 99% of people.
So, do you think that lack of glance would be the reason, when a lot of devices don't have it and after their flagships had gone like half a year without DTTW? xD
But thats what i wanted you to say, regarding the performance, as it destroys every argument that people replying me made up until now xD So what will it be now? xD People have to just face it... Microsoft keeps failing people, and thats the reason of their 1% marketshare
I'm sorry I don't agree. And I didn't even user a PC for that.
I didn't said it was THE reason. Sure is one of them. You want another reason? They sure weren't tested so they can't guarantee you it will work flawlessly (and it doesn't).
Why are you so single minded? Google doesn't fail people? They know their users live with unsecure (not so old) devices and do nothing to protect them. To me, that's a REAL BIG FAILURE!
And they hadn't lied. Half way through development they realised by insider info and telemetry that as Win10M required 1GB to run properly, it wasn't running well enough on 512mb phones. At least they tried to make it work, til they knew they couldn't try anymore. Your argument would be more valid if they had said they would try, then hadn't tried at all. But that not the case :) That's not a broken promise. That's the life of OS development.
Oh is it really? Damn how i beber though of that! Oh but sair, isnt Lumia 430 suportes and 920 (qnd many more) left out? The 920 i know has 1gb ram, qnd the soc is fairly better than 430... Humm ;)
That is correct
Who told you that Pokémon Go is coming to Windows?
Microsoft PR on facebook, and then it said that it had been misunderstood: http://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-portugal-claims-pokemon-go-coming-windo...
Really misunderstood there...
Hey, did they said it wouldn't come?
Yikes, then tive me the link to download it :D otherwise, i think you should really shut up :D
They didn't say when so, if you don't like to wait go fo android/ios
Wait until when? Do you really think that if it was coming MS wouldn't already made a party with the users rather than telling they were misunderstood? By each day that passes, they are loosing users because of that app, so if it was coming, we would already know (with the usual "soon", of course as it happened with facebook and instagram)
BTW so cute how people like to press Vote Down because of me telling the truth xD But now think, what do you think that will do? xD I couldn't care less about that, and i even think its funny to see some delluded users here xD But i really would like to know what do you think that you will accomplish by that xD
First things first. It's not an app. It's a game. A boring silly game.
Its an APP. Might be a Gaming APP, but its an app.
Regarding the other part, you only think that because you can't play it ("i have an android/iphone" lies incoming) xD
Yo are wrong. I played it. I had PoGo when it worked. I didn't like it. It is silly.
And no, games are not apps, don't fool yourself by saying they are apps. They are games.
LOL do you even compare POGO to Pokemon Go? POGO, even though i must salute the developers for their effort, is in a early alpha state, with lots of bugs and lots of missing features, so its like saying that a buggati sucks because your rusty Renault 5 sucks...
Regarding the app, LOL you may say what you want, i wont even try to educate you. Some people just like to live in the ignorance xD But follow my advice... Try to read some articles about it, and then your opinion will change :D
Boy, I was playing games before you were born. Now I rarely do. It's a waste of time.
I don't care what you did. In fact, if that's true, you are the living proof that experience does not mean wisdom...
And by the way, while you keep playing games, i keep coding them ;)
What did you code, a hello world?
They said it will come soon, and then said they are doing everything they can for that matter. To me, it's all the same.
And then they said they were misunderstood, so they backed down on that comment as it was a pre-made reply
Why do you said they backed down? did they said it wouldn't come afterall?
Yup, they removed that post and said they were misunderstood on what they told. Nontheless, as you can read on the article i posted, there is few to be misunderstood as they are very direct about it...
Give me a link where they say CLEARLY it's not gonna happen and I'll say you got 1 right! :p
It was all phones that came with 8.1
Lumia 530, 630, 635, 636, 638 would disagree with you. And i'm just refering to 8.1, of course, but they even said ALL 8.0 as you can see here : http://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-claims-windows-10-upgrades-all-l...
Microsoft promised that all Windows Phone 8 phones that could upgrade to Windows 8.1 would be upgraded to Windows 10
They never said the same time, all phones could get w10 but not all would get support, who knows what niantic had planned for Pokemon Go at the time... There really are no broken promises here...
Many cannot get Windows 10, qnd the pokemon go reply das fairly New (like 1 ir 2 weeks ago), so yeah, lots of broken promises here.
But everybody was offered to get it and as I said. Do you know if niantic told Microsoft it was coming? See, you don't have a lot of grounds for your claims.
If niantic would say something like that to MS, we would know by now. Why? Because MS is loosing users on a daily basis because of that app, so what MS would do (and did for Facebook and Instagram too) would be a official statement of the coming of the app with their original date "Soon" instead of saying they were misunderstood. This is just MS 101 (or if you prefer, how they work)
Nah, Microsoft arent losing users because of that game. The game itself is losing users though. Point is, you have no idea what agreement Niantic and MS has. It might have been on its way and then something needed a bit more fixing. Maybe it is still coming soon... It hasn't been more than a week since that rumor started and you are making it sound like it has been years... Why are you exaggerating so much?
Thats where you are wrong. As you can see in this post (that links you to the windows phone subreddit) you can easily see the impact the game has on users. The rest is just denial.
Regarding my exaggeration, its not it. Its just how things are going. If they wanted to maintain what they said, they would just keep it as a Soon, and not remove the post (the same day) and tell people they were misunderstood. And, in fact, MS is not a company that worries much about not being on schedule as we have seen on the past half year, with multiple delays. The removal and denial of that post alone is the proof that they just backed down on what they said. Of course that some people will keep saying "it might come" until no one remembers that (even if it takes 10 years) and then puff, not important anymore.
*if* people were to have read the W10M compatability release notes, that were on MS website, they would ha e seen the caveats relating to devices and updates. It stated that availability would be subject to 'carriers, device performance and *other* factors'. Insiders tested TH on devices and feedback was showing that certain devices couldn't cope, or perform to a standard deemed satisfactory. People were reporting continual freezing, reboots and general poor behaviour. Thus, those devices were excluded due to these issues. That's the idea of the insider program.
Now, if this were Android, or Apple, dropping support, you wouldn't hear much about it. There were mumblings when Apple recently released an update, because the first gen devices were left out. Android on the other hand drop devices all the time, OEM's drop devices all the time. Old nexus devices are being dropped with the release of 7. Even on 6, the older nexus devices struggle. The note 3, which I cooked roms for was dropped pretty quickly. Thankfully, there is the XDA to keep older devices running.
If people were to read the article i publisher, it would know that MS said before the release, that ALL Windows phone 8.0 decides would be upgraded. But i will play along with you... So the problem is performance right? Then explain the fact that lumia 920 is out of Windows 10 and lumia 430 is supported :D that must be because santa thought it would be Nice :D
I think you're refering to what Terry Meyerson said right? he did say that they were focusing on PC, but didnt explicitly say that RS2 would be for mobile, I believe this is the wincentral article:
http://www.windowscentral.com/microsofts-committed-windows-10-mobile
I cant remember the source, but there was another that they said that RS2 was going to be Mobile based and people got angry because they had to wait through all of RS1 before they got mobile focused updates, while others were confused and had misunderstood, thinking it meant Mobile wasn't getting any updates til RS2
I don't get it. Why would Zac not mention that on the article?
On Mobile it seems
Lets hope it does focus on Mobile
I believe they are going to focus on Mobile this time, Redstone 2 it's going to launch next year, the same year they say they where gonna focus more on Mobile
Three is supposed to focus on Mobile.
The binary in me says, "Yes."
Unlikely they would use any resources for failed mobile platform.
@vhyr They will. Even you do ;)
Really? You need to get out more, or have less private time after you have dreamt up your gamechanging statements
Gotta love your "Failed platform" statements on every win10 article. Here's the attention you have been demanding for the last.. Few months(?)
Already? Can we get a breather? It's raining preview builds!!
*Aulready
Oh the *Sarkasm ;-)
That's called slow ring or release previews lol
My L640XL is about to get outdated......
Same with me, but I'll be looking for the hack for continuum such as successfully with the 830
You'll still get RS2, won't you?
Phenomenal!
*Phenomen-Aul
Phenome-not-any-m-Aul :p
WOW......... That fast
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