Microsoft hints it has plans for higher end Lumia 1020-like cameras for future phones

From a photography standpoint an iPhone is a step down from any pureview camera, how could they be tempting.

I think because we don't know for sure what camera enhancements the new iPhones will have. I for one can say, owning my Icon, I really dislike how long it takes to take a photo and also the front camera takes horrible quality pictures compared to the iPhone and some Android phones. Yes, they announced the new Lumia Camera that should help some with speed, but Icon hasn't even gotten Lumia Cyan yet so I don't expect to see that feature anytime soon. At least I don't expect to see it before the new iPhones are announced.  I think if iPhone does slightly better at low light imaging and adds optical image stabilization it could be tempting for many dissatisfied Windows Phone users who in particular are unhappy in the camera department.  IDK how Apple does it, but their phones can take photos extremely quick and sometimes that is more important than taking a higher detail 20 MP image at a much slower speed (especially if the moment is missed). Lumia Denim... whenever it arrives will hopefully help dramatically in this department.

I think the higher res image is more important to me. I have never had a problem catching an image on the fly. I just hit the camera button as I'm pulling it out of my pocket, and then I half hold it to steady for a quick image. Works for me.

That is nice that works for you but for a lot of people that doesn't work.  Even MS acknowledged this in the keynote yesterday.  The iPhone is quick at taking pictures because of the way it handles background processing for images.  This is also why MS and Nokia said that they have completely rewritten image processing and background processing with the Denim firmware. 

I don't care about the speed of it. I care more about quality

I agree 100%.  I've tried pressing the camera button on my iPhone but I can't find it.  Which one is it?

Good post.  I agree that the new iPhone could be very tempting if they improve the low light imaging and add OIS.  I've got a 920 and the 830 is tempting.

I agree with you. The 830 seems like a solid upgrade for the aging 920 - the 930 is more of a flagship, but the difference for most users will be minimal.
After seeing the 830, I think ATT would do well by skipping the 930 and go right to the 1030 - assuming they can ship it by Thanksgiving. If either ATT or Microsoft cant make it by November, then and only then should they release the 930 for ATT.
There is a problem with too few models and too many clashing models. Finding the balance is key.

Truth here.

A while back I think an article was posted here announcing that Apple poached the Nokia guy who managed the camera department. So expect Apple to announce a magical Lumia...er.....Apple camera in the iPhone 6. A shame they let that guy go. Camera quality is something Nokia always stood out with.

Just a guess but IMO almost 100% sure not to happen this year (even if they did what I dreamed of below :) ).

Yup.. Could tie with the threshold release where rt and wp merge

I'd rather not wait that long. No reason it can't come out for the winter holidays and be updated to Threshold in the Spring.

My hope too.. But if there is a kernel level change then is more likely the 7.8 to 8.0 situation again

There will be no kernel change, that's been stayed many times. 7.5 to 8 was an unfortunate one off. I am pretty sure MS have already confirmed all WP8 phones will get 9, but if not anything released with 8.1 def will, I wouldn't worry about that. MS won't shoot themselves in the foot again.

theres not going to be a kernal elvel change, it was a one time thing.

MS needs to "leak" their roadmap if no flagship is coming out during the holidays else there could be a small level of exodus to ios and android ecosystems. Ppl have been holding out for a year now....

A whole year!! Most people don't even think of upgrading for two years when their contracts expire. A year between model releases is standard, Samsung, Apple, HTC they all do that. I expect no less from MS. We will get 1030 in Q4.

Agreed. Apple may do a yearly release, but the Android crowd is a bit quicker than that. The Samsung S4 for example, was announced on March 14, 2013, while the Samsung S5 was announced on 24 February 2014 - less than a year later. Granted, the upgrades were not incredible, but still, a new version with more horsepower. The 1020 launced on July 26, 2013. We're now at September 5, with only rumors of a replacement at some point in the future. No question that MS has a lot more to think about, and they're going to raise their market share with the 530, 630, 730, and 830 a lot more than they will with the benchmarks, but from a marketing perspective, the benchmarks should be updated within a year to keep the higher end buyers interested in converting to WP, and the existing higher end WP customers to stay with WP.

And it should be the time for 1030 already. Every phone from 520 to 920 have been upgraded. And back then 1020 launched before 1520/1320. So my prediction is that the next phone that will be announced is 1030. And, I know that what I am going to say next is not important and Nokia has already made up their mind about this, but I really wish to see a Yellow phone! Please Nokia.

Yellow!!!!!! PLEASE

Agreed... apart from keeping the current ecosystem interested, the competition with the iphone, One and Galaxy is primarily the 9xx, 10xx and 15xx each having it own unique usp. A refresh to these on a regular basis is essential, at least in developed markets, to keep the momentum going and acquiring more into the wp ecosystem. Barring a few, most phone announcements from Windows over the past several months have only been about budget, affordable etc targeting a lower spectrum. There are several folks in the Android and iOS systems whose contracts are expiring and when they visit a store the flagships of WP are not new enough to get enticed (although MS has done an excellent job in keeping the OS fresh). The other problem is Moore's law, although WP is not as depended as in Android, newer features suggest that its becoming relevant.

This!...The next wave of smartphones will definitely temp some WP users...I'd really love to see roadmap from Microsoft....Maybe we'll hear something at the end of September.

There is a reason that it won't show up this year.... it's not ready.  I get that people are bummed about this no highend phone. I am one of you, and come iPhone 6 I may not be back to this site but I think if MS had a phone that they could put out they would do it now. In addition to that, when was the last time we heard about a phone that hasn't leaked? Every Nokia phones has leaked in advanced for a very long time if some phone was going to come out we would have heard about it. This sucks but it's true.  People, we should either be disgruntled and wait for this vaporware phone to come out, or move on to different phone platforms.  I have been with Windows Phone since the Samsung Focus and it pains me to say that but it really is as simple as staying or leaving.  I keep going back and forth myself. If Denim didn't look so good I would leave for sure on Tuesday..... but that 4k image capture was really awesome, so was the add/remove flash feature.  Pretty much on the fence......

I agree, given Jo Harlow vague references to investing in the camera technology for the future, it really doesn't sound like they have anything in the works at the moment.  plus, I am sure we would have heard of something by now. at least a codename or something. I would be surprised if Microsoft came out with a 41 mp phone in 2015.  maybe 2016.  maybe.

an iPhone?  For real? Don't be a fool. At least get an adroid device.  Get your money's worth.

I couldn't help but chuckle at "don't be a fool."  I don't hear that said very often.

*don't be evil lol

Same here! The iPhone announcement next week will be mighty tempting. MS better start announcing some new products soon cuz I'm starting to lose faith in MS, seriously. Snails pace, late to market keep them behind and its getting old fast.

Apple annouces 1 (now two) phone a year, with minimal changes.  The big thing this year is a larger screen, talk about late to market.  The larger sceen does make it more appealing as the iPhone 5 was still too small.  I love what I am seeing out of the screen sizes for the Icon/930/830.  5" may be perfect.  The Icon is virtually the same size as my 928, with .5" larger screen.

Be fair.  Microsoft has produced a lot of phones in its line up.  It is not just adding/omitting features from a single phone build, either. They have different form factors, budgets, technology, etc.  They are like any other vendor, really.  They may not be producing the phone you want, but they aren't exactly sitting on their arses any more than any other vendor but for one.... Since you mention Apple, they do one (or two) launches a year and some of them are just minor improvements/enhancement to the existing lineage. That isn't to say this year won't be different, but lets keep perspective.

As others have said below, that's not fair. Apple have one phone a year and usually they are way behind in many specs in comparison to the market. MS/Nokia release half a dozen phones a year and for WP there's HTC and 20 other companies coming out with phones this year. Sure i want a 1030 or something like that as well, but I think expecting it less than a year before the 1020 was released is unrealistic.

I used to have an IPhone4, which my mom's still using. The only temptation of iPhone is the syncing with Mac stuffs, because I've been a long term Mac user. I chose WP because of its camera and design, which I didnt see much this year....I mean the colorful design is still eye-catching, but I've been very satisfied with my 1520...no other coming devices that actually tempts me to buy... What happened? 

"MS better start announcing some new products soon cuz I'm starting to lose faith in MS, seriously." I agree 100%.  I mean there hasn't been a single new phone or even a sniff of an OS improvement from Microsoft in weeks.  Apple, on the other hand, announce new phones every 30 minutes and their operating system is upgraded every day at 3:00pm.  Ok, well, no it isn't.  But it's Apple, FFS.  Just saying.

I'm in the same boat as you, got three upgrades coming and I want to be sold not teased.

It is tempting, I like it's look of the OS on outside and inside and software is easy on eyes and smooth, but I'd rather go for 1440 x 2560  Display and 3Gb of ram instead of that 5.5 inch iPhone with 1704x960  Display and probably 1Gb of ram. I think that the 1030 will either use Snapdragon 805 or 810 with 4Gb,.. Also 64bit, about ram I don't know, but it's needed to compete with other OEMs and of course more ram doesn't hurt on the phone :) The 810 supports up to 55 Megapixels with Dual ISP, so that sounds like right for 1030. I'd rather spend money on that, but okay if you can afford them both :) And yes I prefer Windows Phone, I see great potential in it.

I think the hold up on this has been about improving ease of use and performance on the 1020 successor. Additional RAM would more than likely improve speed and maybe enable the device to do some high quality rapid shutter work.  Also, they need to make the camera perform a little better for the simple-minded user.  Where it can compete with some these higher pixel count quick shot cameras.

What hold up, it's not even been a year since the 1020 came out. Apple take two years to bring out new phones (the S line always being minor spec bumps in the intervening year).

Its been over a year. Was released July 26th I believe here in the states.

It has been over a year since the 1020 came out. The 1020 was released late July last year. 

Whoa, I didn't realize the 1020 was released last summer. I thought it was earlier than that. Now wonder my wife looked at me like I had 6 heads when I said I wanted a new phone a few months back. I got mine November 12, 2013.

Same day I got mine lol

I've found that using the OOTB MS Camera for rapid shots works very well. I use the Nokia Camera to get the best quality, DSLR setting photos, and switch the MS Camera that was updated for 8.1 to get the rest. It's more than good enough for me. I just wish it had the 930/Icon's 5" screen and 1080p resolution, not to mention the additional horsepower that those processors bring.

I'm wondering if that cross licensing deal with Canon is actually gunna speed the post processing up using Digic processing. If it comes to fruition, really hope the next camera grip comes out of the box with slr lens attachment ability

I'm not sure but I think that we won't see a WP of 64 bits even for next year.

I agree 100%.  I mean Apple has 64 bits, don't they.  OK, they only turn on 32 bits but they could turn on the other 32 bits any timne they wanted, couldn't they.  That's what being a market leader means.  Put a 64 bit chip in your phone, only turn on 32 bits and tell everyone they're missing the point.  OK.  I'm missing the point too.  But it's Apple FFS.

The next round of iPhones "could" have some issues.  I be a bit wary.  It's quite a shift to go from one size fits all to what is circulating in the rumors.  Just saying. My contract is up in October (I think) and, I too, am getting antsy for some super sweet WP.  But, I keep reminding myself, two years is a long time.  Be patient and get something you really want!

Don't your upgrades roll over?

Oh really? You must be a preteen

Typical rabid fanboy BS. So, someone says that they're looking at getting an iPhone, and they're automatically a preteen? FYI, there's a lot of people smarter and richer than your dumbass that use an iPhone. People like you really shame this community.

I have two upgrades right now as well and am looking forward to a quad core 1020 replacement with a high res screen and....maybe with two forward facing speakers.

Like the speaker idea, speaker on the 1020 is my inly real fault with it.

I have got to say it. The iPhone does seem to take great photos every time. I'm a little disappointed with my 920 results sometimes in terms of edge distortion and blur.
More pixels, faster pocket to shot, high speed frames per second video, wide angle. Microsoft really needs to pile on the investment to justify the Lumia perception as market leader in smartphone imaging.

I WANT IT NOW!!!

Indeed. All I want is a mash up of the 1020 and 930 with an added SD slot and I'd be happy. But untill then I'll stick with the joy that is the 1020.

Agree, I love the look of the 930 and if it had the 41MP camera it would be a slam-dunk for me.

same here. id love to see them combine the too and maybe throw in a better processor

Just re-activate the 5.2" McLaren now!  With the Denim enchancement of camera tech (speed, Moment Capture, Rich Capture) and the Snapdragon 805 processor with 3GB RAM, the Lumia 1030 will conquer the world.  Once you are in the 41MP camera league, it is hard to get out.  You want more!

Well my guess, with a lot of emphasis on guess, is that MS had the McLaren/1030 in the pipeline but they had to push on the break to give HTC a chance. M8 should get at least 4 to 6 months as high end WP before MS release a new killer Lumia.

1020 (2nd generation) or M8?
1020 (2nd generation) or M8?
1020 (2nd generation) or M8?
Ahhhhh!!!!

Really? That isn't a question. The M8 camera sucks, if you want a 1030, why would you even consider a M8?

Well first. We have no idea when this phone is coming out and having new hardware sounds very appealing to me. Majority of photos I take will end up being posted to IG which reduces the quality of the photo either way however I do value a good camera
on a smartphone but enough to wait another 12 months at this point.
I won't start making any changes until the M8 arrives on at&t which I still think its at least 2 months away and that gives me plenty of time to weigh my decision.

So ultra pixel really is crap like people say?

I wouldn't say "crap" but it's definitely no 41 mp that's for sure. I would say it compares to a 10-16 mp

nokia works with HTC, mix their idea + phone.... BOOOM!!! Oh.... my..... god..... Nokia x HTC lumia One (M8) feature 2x 41MP rear camera, 16K UHD recording @ 30fps, 8k @60fps, 4k @ 90fps, 1080p @ 120fps 16MP FFC, 4k @ 90fps, 1080p @ 120fps, 720p @ 150fps nvidia graphic (if supported), quad core 64-bit processor. comes with 2 version - 5 inch 1080p full HD display & 6 inch 2K UHD display

And 8h battery life!

if they could flatten that camera hump by making the battery bigger some of us don't mind the extra weight!

Wishful thinking

Definitely the M8. I need you to support the current WP devices while I wait for the 1020 (2nd Gen) or WP9 devices, lol.

No, but thanks Microsoft. We don't need it. We're good with what we got. :p

Same here dude

Yup.  As a happy 1020 owner, there is simply nothing I can possibly upgrade to unless it is an advancement of the 1020 camera.  I don't care about screen size, new CPUs, miracast, passive voice activation, none of that matters if the camera isn't better than the 1020.  If it takes MS three years to bring out a suitable replacement, I'll wait that long.  I've even owned the 1520 and while that was really good, it's still not comparable to the 1020.  I'm a professional photographer, so nothing is trumping that damn amazing 1020 camera. 

The advantage in a new CPU is decreasing the picture delay.  Right now the S4 Pro is holding on as the little engine that could.  But when I'm showing off the camera in the phone it's a little embarrasing to whip it out, hit the button and wait 4 seconds for the camera to "resume" then 3 seconds between each picture.  My friend with the iPhone has taken 50 pictures at that point and probably caught the moment I was trying to, but missed.

I hear you on the speed.  It takes a lot of power to push 41 megapixels, and the S4Pro is overworked in that regard.  But I'm after image quality.  And I mean, image quality good enough that I don't have to bring a REAL camera anywhere I go.  And I'm a picky professional. 

I agree with someone further up the thread that they might be waiting on possible 64-bit support coming from Threshold and possibly new support for more advanced imaging stacks. I'd rather wait a little longer, and get an epic camera that is able to shoot quick and relatively fast photos. The 64-bit architecture will help a lot with processing images, especially if they want to do more pixel manipulation like oversampling, 4K zooming and make use of the Pelican sensors (imagine 4 20MP pelican sensors...) - they might also be waiting on some new adjustable aperture tech that they recently just patented I think (sorry, no source), and THAT would be a killer feature for photographers like me. Otherwise, I'm pretty happy with the 1020 despite minor annoyances like the uncalibrated AMOLED screen and slow shooting speeds (the latter I can deal with). It's still an epic camera, besides if this new iPhone beats it out in low-light, you can still post-process and oversample it and probably get similar results!!

Is the camera really THAT good?  Honestly, just curious.  I'm just commoner that likes to take cool pictures.   But, I am curious to know how the pro's rate it.  What kind of stuff do you do with it (someone, please don't respond with take pictures)?  Does it have close to hi-res capabilities?  Micro/macro?  Please forgive my ignorance.

Take a look in the forums, I think there is a photography section. There will be some great stuff on there.

Yes it is. Go into the 1020 forum and look at the pictures thread.   What MS should do is just bump the CPU up in the current version and call it 1020.1 or 1021. 

I've made a few threads about my experiences with the 1020 camera if you are interested: http://forums.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-1020/242115-im-pro-photographer-got-1020-wow-im-impressed-few-samples-inside-%3D.html http://forums.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-1020/242524-pro-photog-1020-part-2-taking-1020-next-level-macro-edition.html http://forums.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-1020/245278-pro-photog-1020-part-3-taking-1020-next-level-studio-edition.html   In short, YES it lives up to it's reputation.  The image quality is totally unmatched.  The manual controls are fantastic.  The real Xenon flash opens up HUGE doors for still photography lighting.  The ultra high max shutter speed even opens up doors to high speed photography.  Even the fastest DSLR in the world cannot hit a shutter speed of 1/16800  

Cool beans. I'll defnitely check your threads. Thanks.

Your photos are awesome. I wish I can take pictures like you.
 

Wow. Very impressive photos! The macro stuff you did was amazing. I didn't know about using Tiffen filters.  Just being able to scotch tape them on and start shooting those quality of photos is crazy!  I'm going to have to re-think my next lumia now (I was dead set on the next version of 1520, but now I'm leaning towards the next 1020 version) I've noticed with my 920, with all of the rounds of updates (I'm currently running the dev preview), the camera has dramatically improved for very close shots. I was so surprised that when I held my phone RIGHT ONTOP of a flower, large beatle, raspberries, of how well it eventually autofocussed after I clicked the button. Before pushing the button, it would be so burry, like it was just to close to focus, but then auto-magically focussed after pushing. I mean...the raspberry hairs had EXCELLENT detail.  Nothing like what you did, but not bad for average 920. Great work. 

We're in the same boat,nothing else comes close

Totally agree with AccentAE86. There is no way I'm downgrading to anything less than a camera comparable to the 1020!

Wow, professional photographer with cell phone :) Okay...

I'll go ahead and leave this right here... http://youtu.be/-Zf4MIBSnGc

I said next year because that is 18 month life span... Also 805... Also peoples upgrades... Also the McLaren was supposedly canceled, I don't want a rushed product.

i hope they will release 1030 when they release WP9 :D

YES! YES! YES! Posted via Windows Phone Central App

Can't wait! Love my 1020, really hope the next version has sdcard or USB otg

Waitin for one desperately!!

Bring it! Get back in the high end. Don't let apple and google keep the spotlight through Q1 of 2015.

Yes, this. I can't believe Microsoft is letting Samsung, Motorola, and the like announce new flag ships, but leave a major carrier like att high and dry. While I will buy a 1520 if I have to, a 1030 would be a nice option. Have and update in November along with a lot of 920 owners and I'm sure they would all rather have a newly released flag ship rather then an iPhone.

1030 would be cool.  But, I'd rather have a 1530 or whatever the heck they'll call it.

Indeed. I'm going from my 920 to iPhone 6. Bring on the high end!

1030

Joe Belfiore was teasing something that could be a new 1020 on twitter yesterday.

Really? What did he say? {yes, being lazy here}

Something about how good the zoom was. He was taking it at a concert. Seems to fit this new 1020 thing. Maybe he was using an M8. Where's Daniel Rubino when you need his speculation skills.

Unfortunately, there's no need to speculate. He stated clearly that he took the picture(s) with a 1020. https://twitter.com/joebelfiore/status/507678206543929344

That tweet was right after he posted that he was trying out an 830 wasn't it? I think it was just a zoom on an 830 photo.

+1030 Or 1040... whatever.  Here is my wishlist: - wireless charging - no larger then 5 inch screen. - fast camera launch and pic-to-pic times (my only major complaint on the 1020 is this lag) - preserve glance feature - microSD slot. - cyan or purple body color option (a swappable back plate would be perfect.

Ditto

^ This; especially a 5 inch screen and wireless charging should be build in and not through a extra case Plus:
- DualSIM (I want to use my dutch and german SIM in one high end device)
- High end Processor (Snapdragon 810? ;) )  

Couldn't agree more! I'd already own a 1020 if it wasn't for the lack of microSD.

Would we be interested? Good lord man, are you kidding!?!?

Right? Silly question of the day, for sure! :D

  There is a worrying "WMPU question at the end of every f..ing story" contamination going on in WPCentral lately.. :P

This is very much what I wanted to hear, I can hold on to my 1020 and wait or go to the Note Edge for 2 years and come back to Windows.

And that's what Microsoft needs to hear: that the lack of a product would allow people to go to other products for a time period. No manufacturer should be willing to say "oh we'll get them back". There's no guarantees that people will come back.

Yes!! I was waiting for this!! Come to papa!

Two sim cards. SD card support. 42 megapixel camera on the back. 5 megapixel camera on the front and make it as big and as fast as the 1520 and it would be epic!

Totally agree!

Omg epic indeed hahahah

Put it on Verizon and take my money.

God no, make it the size of the 1020 with a better screen so the accessories don't have to be repurchased.

No no no... none of that six inch bull. I want it to fit in my pocket. Personally I'm more than happy with 720p 4.5" display... but I know it will probably be 5" 1080p which would be fine.

The 930 isn't much bigger than the 1020. the 1020 has a pretty big bezel. So going from 4.5" on the 1020 to a 1030 with 5" wouldn't be that much of a difference in size if they gave it a small bezel.

Exactly!  

Sure, like i said, that's ok... but not a priority for me. Far more interested in speed and SDCard.

You are here complaining and two months with Lumia 1520 and it's already looking small, I can't take any phone less than 6". Note that it fits very well in all of my pockets

That quite clearly fits into the category of "your problem".  Most of us need better portability than that. The 1520 already has a 20 megapixel camera... I think if you are in the demographic that wants a ginormous screen you should be able to make do with that, given that you already have every other spec.  .  The 1020 is in serious need of an update for the processor, and making it a 6" device would completely alienate the large group of us that are still waiting for a decent sized (meaning NOT requiring a briefcase), powerful, well equiped camera phone.

Roster wood, keep going

As long as its 6 inch. Then I can exchange my 1520!;)

6 inches of what!?

6 inches of Nokia goodness!

Came here to say the same thing. Lol. I'd even settle for 5.5" if it had that camera.

Yeah 6" is the REAL sweet spot. I wonder people all over saying 5"... in two years time this will change to 6" for the same group

Never! 5" and no bigger! I had the 1520 for 3 weeks as a replacement and I was mega happy as my 1020 returned from repairs. The 6" of that 1520 gave me enormous problems storing it since I rarely have a jacket on warm days I either had to wear cargo pants with side pockets (and I only have two of these) or put the phone into my back pockets of my pants where I always feared it would break or fall out and i had to take it out when I wanted to sit down. It was a horrible experience carrying that monstrosity around. I also felt stupid putting it to my ear while calling due to me neither having headphone with a mic nor a Bluetooth headset.
So please don't make the successor of the 1020 bigger than 5"; that would be a big turn down!

+1 anything over 5" is horrible. Phablets are ridiculous and laughable when people are holding the giant bricks up to their heads. I think the real sweet spot is 4.3" to 5". Anything more and it's a deal-breaker.

Christmas and Easter all rolled into one today.

If its not in the pipeline now..sorry but too late for me..1020 is end of life and receiving minimal love from what I can tell in software updates so it will be time to "move on" unfortunately...bungled opportunities MS

Minimul love?  What do you want someone to come and install a new chipset?  lol MS has updated software and firmware continuously and has just hinted at the next iteration.        

You don't need a new chip for every feature. Living images or whatever it's called, worked on 1020 in beta, but then they took it away.

Yes... WP8.1, Cyan firmware, continued development on Nokia Camera... No support at all... SMH

DJCBS, what do you think? I'm starting to see what you mean by "Nokia products actually being Microsoft products" now. Posted via Windows Phone Central App

Loooove it :)

They need to hint at some high-end flagship type stuff soon.  There seems to be nothing on the horizion and there are a whole lot of 920 users whose contracts are running up in the next few months. 

No lie here. I've had this 920 for some time now and have been waiting patiently for a 1020 successor. If this doesnt come soon are at least something more tangible than a brief comment, I dont know what I might do by years end. 

Yup. Would be amazing and amazingly sad and amateurish if they had no almost ready to go back up plan for the cancelled McLaren.

Bingo, this is on the money. Everything they have announced is pretty compromised in some way. A significant portion of us on 920 contracts might walk if there's no replacement, especially on AT&T who has nothing if you don't want a phablet. I'm not looking for phones with features cut for savings... I need a badass phone with a badass camera.

And, that doesn't seem too much to ask to me.

Yes, we have 2 contracts to renew in November.

I hope they have a newer 41mp sensor built onto an ultra-high end phone next time around.
Having a sensor so spectacularly awesome coupled with mid-range/last-last-gen hardware should never happen again. Who wants to wait ten seconds to take a photo? Nobody.

Price is no object. Give me the best damn hardware you got, Microsoft.

Haha. Exactly.

I hope they don't release anything soon. I just switched to a 1520 from a 1020 yesterday. :/

There's no way I would have downgraded to the 1520 from the 1020.  Plus that thing is just WAY too big.  A 5 inch device would be pretty much perfect with a camera improved upon the one in the 1020.

Nah, it's not a downgrade because the screen is larger.  The specs are better (except for the camera, obviously).  Plus the battery life on the 1020 is terrible.  It would last 6-12 hours with moderate to heavy usage.  I agree that 5" (although I'd prefer 5.5") is the sweet spot, but I'm on AT&T and we don't have any devices with a screen that size.

I agree, Good upgrade. Im on verizon and would pick 1520 over icon cause I also think 5.5" is the sweet spot. Posted via the WPC App for Android!

Well then you made the right choice. Posted via Windows Phone Central App for Android!

The King still lives! Hail the Lumia 1020!

Erm. My answer is yes lol. Didn't take me long to think about it

The sooner the better

They better be quick because the 1020 is getting old quick and right now there isn't a real alternative for people who want to upgrade on Windows Phone.

There isn't an alternative to the 1020 in Apple or Android either, so how would that lure people.

There isn't a 41 megapixel alternative, but there are a couple of good cameras on Android, and I'm sure others a coming. The thing is, we need to be quick to make sure we are first, like we were with the 1020. And by the way, I personally wouldn't switch for an Android, I think the Windows OS is amazing and I'm not ready to give it up, but people that switched to Windows Phone for the camera might be tempted to switch to something else if their phone breaks and they release something on Android first. So I'm not saying there is any real alternative right now, but we better be quick to make sure it stays that way!

yes there is, he will going to buy to 2 xperia with 20mp camera :p

I dont understand such statements, either. For picture quality, the L1020 is unrivalled, only slow camera startup and shot to shot time are major negatives so if anyone cared about the camera nothing else would do. No matter how many cores it has.

As I said to sporosarcina, I know there isn't a real alternative right now, but when there is (and I'm pretty sure that many companies are working on it) it'll be too late to say "we need a new phone quick", we need to make sure that phone is ready before there is an alternative. We need to be proactive, not reactive. Also, since the 1020, as I mentionned, is getting old, it'd be nice if people who's contacts are coming to an end could upgrade to a new phone while they're upgrading their contract instead of getting stuck with the same old phone for another 2-3 years.

Ermmm...hmmm...u guys have lumias and fail to understand the most important thing about WP... It never gets old, no matter what device u have. That is the beauty of it. 1020 has 2 GB of ram, and that will keep it alive for many many years from now on. I have Lumia 820 and except camera, there is NOTHING a Lumia 1520 can do and I can't. In fact, there is nothing a 1520 can do and a 520 can't. That is how good WP is compared to all the trash from lagdroid and icrap.

You should read the news from the past few days... They announced the next firmware update and there are many features that won't work on the 1020 because it's not fast enough and it's missing some features, and if it wasn't already pretty sad, many of those features are camera related (4K video and fun stuff like that). So we'll have the best camera available on Windows Phone, but we won't have the best camera features... Also, apparently the 1020 won't be compatible with the new Miracast gadget Microsoft is starting to sell.

I was just about to create a forum titled:  WHY I STILL HAVE MY L920 and one of the reasons is because I want something like 1020, a great camera with great performance.  When the 1020 was announced I had just gotten my 920 and so it was a no go to upgrade, so now I am waiting for the successor of the 1020.  The 1520 is just to big and would only accept one if someone gave it to me for free and then I would use it in my classroom as a walk around tablet.  Anyone willing?

+1 4,5'' is the maximum size what I can / want use. Come on MS, give me high-end HW with compact size!

So I guess there'll be no upgrade for me in WP section until that new beast comes out...

Great news! But rather than (perhaps) waiting 1.5-2 years to release one, how about just slapping a faster processor and higher res screen in the 1020 body, and callilng it the 1025 to bridge the gap? Sure, probably much much harder to do in practise than just saying it, but just a thought.. :)

Yes!

Too many expenses for Microsoft just to bridge the gap.

Probably, depending on how big the gap is though. Knowing how execs lose talk and how many Nokia projects have gotten side tracked or delayed, would not be surprised if the gap is MUCH longer than we would hope or guess. If the gap is long, MS may want to take the hit to not loose the niche.

Yes, I go with that, evolution would be fine, no point in revolution when so close to perfection.

Ohhhhhh! That would be great!!! Same freaking awesome camera, faster phone, better battery, more features!!! Yeah, that would be great if they did that until the next big thing is released!

With a 5 inch or 5.5inch qhd screen, 3g Ram and memory card slot. Would buy in a heartbeat.

Buying day 1. Sko!

I'm just gonna point out: He said "absolutely". That's not a hint, it's rock solid confirmation that were will see another high end Lumia with a crazy sensor. What I'd like is a Lumia that can dock into a dslr-like she'll, use canon or Nikon lenses and offer some high end touch screen control over video recording at 4k.

Jo Harlow is a 'she' btw :P

Please, i want it  right now......

that comment sounds more like a response trying to say that we are still in the game, not that they have a plan to release hardware.

Hate the huge camera bump on the back

I like that bump! It's what is beautiful part of L1020 ;)

I have no problem with the bump. But wouldn't mind it disappearing either.

They should eliminate the bump for the 1030 and increase the size of the screen its time for the 5" now had enough of the 4.5 and 4.7

I only mind it when I'm using my phone on a table in landscape mode. Which is really rare, most of the time I'm using it in portrait mode, and the bump is great in those occasions since it tilts the phone towards you.

Jah i dnt think it rests comfortably on the table

I actually like it. I think the 1020 is the best looking windows phone.. Posted via Windows Phone Central App for Android!

It's actually non existent to me now. I don't even notice it. The only things I notice are the amazing images that it produces.

Interms of images or the best there is I almost bought not until Microsoft said its the EOL for it

Me too!

My favourite bit is the hump.

Come on Microsoft bring it on. Waiting on this phone myself.
I thought Nokia strategy was fairly ok... Big screen flagship, big camera flagship, in the middle flagship and then round it off with phones at lower price points.

Release before the new year. The new Apple iPhone and other phones are direct competition in terms of holiday sales. Hope they have the product in the works. We want to see the phone have a nice healthy sales from the launch. I would get it instantaneously!

Release before the new year. The new Apple iPhone and other phones are direct competition in terms of holiday sales. Hope they have the product in the works. We want to see the phone have nice healthy sales from the launch. I would get it instantaneously!

High speed imaging with Lumia Camera and a high end sensor would be epic! I hope they don't compromise on the specs though.

The new m core from Intel is a mega monster. If that is in a phone wow.

Microsoft/Nokia doesn't know anything else except camera..730 and 830 also are about camera..

One way you are correct! What else do you expect from a smart phone?

Well... Their phone are also fast, and the OS is amazing, and some of them also have a special touchscreen that works with gloves, and a glance screen, and wireless charging, and the 1020 has a special case for photography, am I forgetting something? I think Nokia phones are much more than just a good camera! Only think missing is two speakers like the HTC phone.

Announce and release SOMETHING!  The 830 is a dud.  If there isn't anything come November I'm saying goodbye WP and hello Android.  What's so hard about a 4.7inch, full HD, sd card support, removable battery, Qi and glance support.  There is still no worthy successor to my 920 and I'm running out of patient :(

You can forget about Qi in US.

Why do you say that??

He probably means on AT&T. But if it had removable battery, that would mean removable back, which would mean you could import a Qi enabled back at least.

MS should bring successor of 920, 1020 and 1520. I mean true successor.
My contract of Lumia 920 will expire in Jan. I can't see any option for upgrade. I may look into M8 if it would be released in UK. But I'm more interested in Lumia devices.

I'm in the same boat, waiting for a true 920 successor

me too.  If the 930 had Glance I would go for that. I can upgrade at the end of this month but have nothing to upgrade to

930 + Glance + SD-Card support (+ swappable back cover (830 like)) = instant buy until then I will keep my 920. "old N9/900/920 design" would be great but the design of the 930/830 ist fine. Especally if you can change the back cover. 

Tubing for 1530 and 1030:). These are next in pipeline, yeah. Liking my 1520 but....

It'd be awesome to have a 1520 with the camera from the 1020...

My contract wont be up for a year they need to release a new version by then

Definitely the sooner the better........

I smell a 1020 successor..

If they crank up the horsepower then ya, love the camera hated the phones performance. It ran smooth overall but the camera was just to slow, Nokia suggested using 5mp photos what's the point in having 41 advertised and only using 5. Used it for a few months and bought a phone capable of burst photos. I'll definitely shell out money if I could get a faster snapper.

The new Denim Firmware with luck will address the camera slowness issues we all suffer.

Remember Canon, it's coming...

This is the vague kind info I've been waiting for (honestly) I have a 1020 and love it not just for been a great WP but also for the camera. After real flagships began to be cancelled, my fear was that I wouldn't have an exciting upgrade option available once my contract runs out. This at least gives me hope that I may have a 1020 successor come upgrade time (about a years time from now)

We don't ask much with 1030, just speed bump with snapdragon 801 SoC, Is it too much? Now put that selfie camera on the front! LOL!  

Also add SDcard please. And don't lose the other features like Glance and Qi.

oh Yes, How I missed Micro SD part!

That's right! The Lumia 1030 must have sd card and Qi it's amazing!!

801? C'mon dude! Aim for the stars ... 810 SoC!

Personally I want to see either an Nvidia Tegra K1 Denver ARMv8 processor or an Intel Broadwell x64 processor with full Windows capabilities after the merging of Windows. Snapdragon processors are so 2013 and are being outperformed now.

ABSOLUTELY!!!!  I'm holding on to my Lumia 1020 until a real successor comes out.  There is absolutely no reason for me to throw my money away on the most recent devices.

What s stupid question at the end of the article. Seriously. Was the end game supposed to be the "affordable flagship" phone? 1020 owners are pretty damn adamant about getting an upgrade and nothing less.

Exactly, we 1020 owners want a phone which is better in every respect before we upgrade, that includes the camera.

The future is NOW....

Solid! Lets see for 1025 or 1030. Bit light in weight quite good in screen size and thinner with bold and attractive pure view zeiss optics and clubbed with windowsphone9! Its like icing on the cake. Cool, exited and remarkable step Microsoft!

Finally! I've been waiting so long for this news!

Yes yes yes !!!!

I would love it if it came in a size akin to the 1520.

+1

All I gotta say is make it powerful, make it fast, not too big to hold, and available on all and I mean ALL networks including T-Mobile! And I'll be buying it! If it is another ATT exclusive, I'll be very upset!

Very interested, loved my 1020, except for the lack of Miracast and Micro SD. But i gave up waiting and got a 1520 last month.
I am really hoping the 1020 successor is at least 8X zoom on stills and more on video, including on the 4K video.
Also hoping for a 6" screen version with min 5mp selfie.

they dont really need to make the next greatest thing, just update the 1020 with current hardware like snapdragon 800-801 that already gives it a lot more in terms of imaging, 4k recording would be one, so there should be a 925 with the best looks-specs every year, along with a giant 6" version, and a 41mp equipped version aka 1020-1030-1040, btw if they want that "pureview" brand to mean something they should include a xenon flash in every pureview branded lumia, no excuses, and stop the minimalistic camera designs, they should stand out like the 920-928 with a long metal strip surrounding the lens, not just making it look like another iPhone or xperia phone

5" - 5.5" screen

Make it dual SIM with SD card and I will jump on it in an instance, even though I really got used to the size of my 1520.

Give me a 930 with a 41mp main camera, 5mp front camera, and a micro SD slot please. :)

This would work too.

And a glance-compatible screen. No more part-downgrade upgrades! Those are the most ridiculous things about the Lumia line.

If 1030 doesn't came with an SD-Card slot then I'm not interested.
I'm so fed up with the lack of SD-Card Slots in 900 and 1000 phones...

It most definitely needs an SD card solution

My plan runs out in March 2015 but I'm able to upgrade at XMas. The 830 is not an option leaving only the 930. Cmon MS ill hold out to March if there's something decent coming out around 6 months time.

Yes, this it's exactly what I'm waiting for. A super fast WP with 41mp (+?) camera. An SD drive and exchangeable battery would be a bonus. Until then I'm sticking with the great 1020.

No WP on the market has my attention right now, not even the HTC One M8. I'm waiting on Mobile World Congress to see what's coming.

Nokia doesn't usually announce big news there anymore.

Don't forget about CES & Build :p

I don't know if Nokia will be announcing phones at all anymore after this year so we'll have to see.

Absolutely buy this phn!! This type of phn with best camera...who doesn't want to buy it...

I'd be completely onboard with an updated 1020! Love my current 1020 and cannot imagine trading it for a phone with less of a camera. The images it captures are truly amazing!

Totally agree, nothing else comes close

I actually had a dream Wednesday night that Microsoft surprised everyone at IFA and announced the 1030 instead of the 830. I was so excited. Then I woke up. Told my wife about the dream and she thinks I'm a dork....which is probably true. Never had a dream about a phone before.

I love my 1020 - I'd love to see built-in Qi charging and faster off-to-shot/shot-to-shot times in a 1030. Also, a 64GB model or SD slot would be wonderful. If it has all that, I'll be stoked.

Bit off-topic.
Did MSFT also buy PureView or it remained with Nokia as part of IP?

If I remember pureview is still a Nokia thing, Ms did sign a cross license with canon though, some reports say future Ms phones will get digic processing from canon and possibly canon lenses rather than ziess, and canon gets free windows on cameras since the screen is under 8inches, but who knows, would love to find out more myself. How awesome would it be if the next camera grip allowed slr lenses to attach!

1030 gimme. of course we are interested :)

I need a flagship on 11/2014, like when WP7 launched (11/2010) and WP8 launched (11/2012). Please MS!

I didn't get the 1020 till October. I am still hopeful that an upgrade is coming soon but I have my doubts.

I was waiting for a High end Phone but nothing and it will be awkward to go from 920 to 830...1020 is one year old. 1520 to big. I wanted a successor of 1020 or 920 either one

Don't like 930?

Camera... The Camera...

930 is not available in US, except for Verizon Icon. Since he has a 920 he's on AT&T.

you can grab unlocked 930 here for 500 http://www.1shopmobile.com/Nokia-Lumia-930.html

With no US LTE support.  That's a huge hit on a high end phone.

It would be a nice device to release alongside threshold.

Would love to have the Lumia 1020, if it would work on the Verizon network. I just hope they come out with one on Verizon not exclusive to AT&T.

I just want a viable replacement for my l920 coming up for renewal in November.... Is that to much to ask att???!!!?!?

Cross your fingers and hope that the One comes to AT&T by then. That's what mosh of us are waiting for.

Not really. I want a high end Lumia.

I want to like the one.... I do... But crappy camera, and no dedicated camera button a big negative for me. Otherwise I'd be on board, especially for the accessories. Also would prefer to stick with the Lumia brand.

Want a 1030 with:
1.8 aperture
Much quicker shoot time
120 fps slow mo video.
Ability to focus during video.
Next Gen sensor tech.

Ujuuu, that'll be my next smartphone.

I would not only be interested but have been waiting for it come out. I need me some new Models in the 1*** range to hit the ATT soon with 40+mp of imaging love. ALSO: Qi instead of that PowerMat or whatever crap please!!

Give me a new HTC One (M9) for Windows with pureview ois and the ultrapixel depth sensor. It'd be the perfect device.

Yes indeed

Same size as 1020 with 5" screen, 64GB AND SD-CARD!!
SOLD!!

Yes!  With that high of mega pixs, it desperately needs expandable memory.

Wouldn't be surprised if the next WP flagship comes out after Windows Threshold is released.  WP9 in other words.

been holding off on my upgrade for an upgraded 1020.... which is hard since i am on a 920 now.... the 1520 is too big for what i need anyways.

And people was freakin out about a 1020 Successor yesterday ... Well, here you go everyone.

Not really a "here ya go"... no timeframe at all attached to this, and them not screwing it up is far from a sure thing.

I doubt they will screw it up .... The 1020 have a Snapdragon S4, that's barely equal to the S400 series, it can't get any worse lol.
If I was Microsoft I'd hold out & use an S810 ... Just think of the possibilities of what they can do with that monster.

I'm sure they will give it a nice, fast processor.  I'm more talking about the other aspects: Glance, Qi, SD Card.  Also, I am hoping they will offer something like the Camera Grip again... love it!

It seems that Microsoft want to push Qi hard this time, especially with it built-into the 730, 830 & 930 ... Not to mention, they just introduced the 2nd generation charging plates ... It would be odd not to include it into the 1020's successor. Fingers crossed for an SD ... They probably learned their lesson with the 1020.
I don't know about Glance though ... It looks like a Hit-Or-Miss thing so far.

The concern with Qi is not Microsoft, it's AT&T's nasty method of trying to snuff it out in favor of PMA.  They hacked it out of the 1520, and haven't released any phones with it in a long time.

Amen to that processor

+1

I'd put my money on the Nvidia Erista SoC instead. The Tegra K1 outperformed the Snapdragon 800 by miles, and the Erista is expected to outperform the Snapdragon processors in 2015 too.

I have a 1020 and im just waiting on a better phone from Lumia but nothing has come out that's better. 1020 just needs a 5 inch screen and a 5 megapixel front facing camera.

I reckon CES 2015 they'll have something to show. The 1020 is still good for another 9 months. It makes more sense for high end phones like these to have a biannual release since 90% of them sold are going to be on 2 year contracts. I hope they retain similar dimensions to the 1020, and release another camera grip for it. Hopefully a high end camera grip with changeable lenses.

Absolutely

PRESTO! Do it! The chineses temptations are on my door...(meizu,huawei ecc.)

LoL! Android fever?

Yes, have been waiting for those kind of news!

They are waiting on WP 9....

I also guess they await 64 bit WP and Processor! 

Hopefully MS will release 1030 with 4.5" HD display, Snapdragon 800 processor, 2GB RAM, 41mp camera and 16/32GB expandable upto 128GB and more importantly price it sanely.

I would want it to be higher than an 800.

I'm specifically waiting for this phone. I love my 1020 and would love to buy another with just upgrade specs/screen (keep it AMOLED).

My AMOLED 1030 screen seems to be wearing badly. Kind of yellowish and dim. Looks much worse than my 920 LED which got at least as much use. Am I alone?

Apparently, my 1020 still looks gorgeous!! AMOLED is so nice with true black. The 920 is not LED, it's LCD.

LCD with LED backlight I assume though. I agree on the AMOLED blacks of course.  I cringe when I see the Glance screen on non-AMOLEDs.  Not only because of the blacks, but also because they clearly are turning down the backlight as low as possible to save battery so it's very dim. But I'm really not liking the color push and brightness reduction I'm seeing on my 1020.  It's pretty noticable to anyone who's a fan of a nice screen (in other words, no, my mother wouldn't notice it).

My 920 screen is actually the best screen I have come across. My daughter bought a 630 and that is good, but it has a weird shimmer going on. However, it is nowhere near as bad as an Iphone 4. I can barely look at them, shimmer like hell to me. Don't know why.

Absolutely!!!!

I will definitely be on the lookout for this type of device, as long as it doesn't have the words 'Microsoft' or 'Windows' printed/engraved on the front or back of the device - the Windows logo on the home key is enough!  I would accept the word 'Lumia' though.

Oh good lord.

Music to my ears - give me a 4.5-5" Lumia 1030 with integrated Qi-charging and a Snapdragon 80x processor (for "Hey Cortana" capabilities) on AT&T and I'm sold. Maybe a bigger battery, sd-card and a dedicated camera processing chip for faster shots...and absolutely no bigger than 5" - the 1520 is way too big for me!! I want a phone, not a tablet/phablet!

Add Glance and I'm in on your list.

Who's body is ready?

Want it fast.

Cant wait. Love my 1020

Be interested? Well deeerrr.... YES! Bring it on.

I hate my Lumia 1020, I can't wait until the iPhone 6 this month. Windows phone OS + Nokia bulky hardware = 1 horrible year. Thank god I have AT&T next.

you could've checked out phone before purchasing the 1020, don't call it bulky ,it's for the main part , the camera

This is the kind of news I want to know about. I will not upgrade from my Lumia 1020(unlocked for T-Mobile) until either a 20mp 930-ish flagship with SD slot or a direct 1020 replacement with updated specs is announced for T-Mobile. I will not settle for anything less than a flagship with a great camera experience. I was tempted by the One for Windows(sacrificing a rich camera experience for gorgeous hardware and the confirmed "coming soon" for my carrier) but I want it all and its clear that the 1020 will not be able to take advantage of mist of the cooler and richer camera experiences that Nokia is bringing to its new phones and new Denim software. The great thing about the 1020 is that i don't have to wait to enjoy real imaging quality in the meantime.

No, not really ... The Camera while an excellent one is good to have ... Its not not on the top of my priority list when I shop for a phone. The Screen, Build quality, Speakers & Storage takes priority for me

Awesome Camera Qi wireless BUILT IN  next gen capable if possible Slimmer Removable Battery Battery life like in the HTC One (this battery rocks) Water Proof SD 128 gb support Camera button Power button in same spot as now - Hate it on top on the HTC One    

I would buy this in a heartbeat.... I'm still waiting on news regarding the Lumia 1525 from T-Mo b/c I wouldn't mind that being my next upgrade... but a next-iteration of the Lumia 1020 would be PERFECT   That god damn camera was amazing (I broke mine and bought a Lumia 925 instead :'(, T-Mo sucks)...    I used to head out on a boat or floating the river or hiking or whatever and I always had my 1020 handy - even inside a waterproof bag / case the damn thing took amazing pics...    #925

Interested? I'm counting on it!!!

I could see this being the windows thing great camera features. Perfect for a photogenic generation

I'll buy it!

Eagerly waiting for the successor of Lumia 1020...want a whopping 50mp cam and 4.5x lossless zoom. This will be our of the world if they can incorporate any settings that can change aperture!!!! ^_*

Finally!!!   Give us a true 920/1020 successor in one device with all the latest specs in a 5.2" screen with Glance! Take my money!!!!!!!  #MORELUMIA

Yes! And they can take their time getting it just right; I expect my 1520 to keep me happy at least a year more...

Yes need this as an upgrade to my 920. This needs to be on all carriers and don't allow Att to remove the wireless charging. Please keep it 5"

Microsoft is probably trying to do more. Because the "PureView" tech belongs to Nokia and is no longer exclusive to Windows Phones, I'm certain they're trying to do something with the camera that goes beyond what they license from Nokia which currently is everything. Otherwise the likes of Samsung can easily smash anything Microsoft presents by simply licensing the same technology from Nokia.

Best case scenaril is that MS will release a 1020 successor after the IPhone release with better specs at a better price point. I have only two more months ( like a lot of 8X and 920 people) on my contract and am just waiting for my new phone to be announced. This would surely fit the bill. 5 inch (or less) 1020 pureview equivalent (or better) new broadcom chip 2x2 mimo, ac Updated processor wireless charging 32gb + expansion microsd miracast I really dont think its too much to ask.

Your contract will be up way before anything like that shows up.

I"m still wondering why over a year has passed and this is the first we have heard ot it. Makes me think it's not a close release, but not until Windows 9. That's too bad, because I am ready. My screens cracked.

Definitely interested!

Camera technology is the #1 factor when I consider a phone. I'm NOT saying I have to have the best one available, but if its not within the top 2 or 3, I will not consider it

I won't put my money on it if it will be shown "no love" within a year just like 1020...

Love and I mean an all caps LOVE my 1020 . . . and think I'm the only one who'd love it more if reinvented in a smaller package. Those big phones are too strange looking and require big pockets. Bring back the days when things were getting better, faster and smaller . . . Is this just my fantasy?

If only this fantasy turns into a real thing!

I'm in! Preferably at 5 inches

When the Nokia 808 came out I was dejected because it ran on Symbian, not to mention not a single US carrier picked it up. I moved to Android after my HTC Touch Pro and hated just about every minute of it. I wanted to get back to a Microsoft OS so bad and when the 1020 was announced, I knew immediately that I HAD to have it! It was my dream phone and I love it. My only complaints about the 1020 are that it won't support passive voice activation and opening the camera from scratch is as slow as my HTC Evo that's 5 years obsolete now, but this rumored new one I guarantee will be better on both issues and probably include so much more! I can't wait to see this story develop!

Bring it on. I'm all ready.

A phone without the camera hump is great. As long as they keep the Lumia tradition going.

Sold!!!!

Bring it to Verizon and take my money!!!

+1020 can't wait to get my hands on it

Would I be interested? The camera is my top criterion for my next phone, so yeah, you could say it's a big deal to me. It's not the only thing that's important to me, but I'd probably even strongly consider an iPhone if it had a 1020's camera...

I'll take one. Would get rid of my canon and replace my 920... I don't mind if it takes a few months to wait for that next big thing

1030 would be my next Windows Phone, do it MS!

Ditto....1030 Plz

Absolutely yes. Bring it.
 

Absolutely!  No one is even close to the 1020 in camera specs.  They could release a phone with updated hardware and the same camera and I would buy it!  If I had my druthers, I would like them to make a case that could accept a standard lens and have controls to drive the lens.  Basically have your phone act as the digital part of your SLR but let the mechanical parts be add on features via custom cases.  In a pinch a photographer could use this phone as a backup with all the lenses they already own.  Maybe work with OneDrive to offer higher amounts of storage for certain file types if they come from a lumia too....  MS could make existing products from other categories (photography ) sell their phones for them......

Can't wait. My 920 isn't getting any younger

Its sold already. Get your finger out. Make it to order, then customers can have what they want in it. . Il have a silver device. With all the latest gear. . Sd card.

Heck yeah. 5-inch with glane screen support, 3GB Ram, 32GB Storage, MSD slot up to 128GB, Snapdragon 810 (Octo core )  55Mp  main camera, 5Mp front camera, hardware camera button, NFC, Virtual keys with gradiant back color like Moto X, USB 3.0, Laser Focus (Super fast focusing), Super small bezel, Interchangeable battery, wireless charging built in, released on all carriers! Am I missing anything?

Need more phones.

This is a MUST do for Microsoft, IMO. Just because of the notariety of the 1020, even if people didn't buy one, they will probably buy the next one.  I know people who were amazed at the picture quality of my 1020, and were interested in taking the plunge, but they didn't believe it was true.  If there was a next iteration in the technology, design, etc, I think it would move some devices. It seems photography has trumped almost any other use on a smartphone just because of social media integration and the fact it is always the best camera (because it is the one you have with you).

Whatever the nextgen Lumia 1020 is, no matter the cost, it will be mine :)

We needed this snippet of info to quell the fiery curiosity :) why don't they seek the Lumia 1020 really cheap now that it's old-ish? I imagine people in India would go crazy for a high end Lumia at a decent price

Hopefully soon. Love WP, but contract up soon, and the new Moto X looks more promising to me than anything currently available

Just tell me the sto you have it or you'll have at. Please make the sto close to a bank. I'll rob the bank on my way there, and pay cash for this baby. Emmm make it 5.5" Phone size PLEASE

Oh, and put it out in orange without gimped wireless charging.

Want one of these badly.  Wanted the 1020 almost to the point of breaking my Verizon contract and going to AT&T.  The next one definitely better be on Big Red.

Exactly what you speak of is what I'm waiting to upgrade to.

Microsoft Mobile + Canon + Snapdragon 800 + SD support + 5" = Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes

The 1020's camera was a bit excessive. 41MP? It's certainly a niche market,,,  

Yes someone will cry becuase of too much mega pixels. smh

Put it on tmobile and take my money? Nokia glace support.. quad core... 40mp... NFC and Qi charging please. :)

Icon with an oreo.  I'd take it.

High mp is for zooming... Its not niche.. The phone auto deletes the super high res if you don't use it

It's always the future.. Like hold on wait on us.. While we watch Samsung users get better and better software and devices.

Sold!

MicroKia should have announced this phone yesterday. After 9.9.14 the general tech media will forget the 730/735 and 830. Any comparison will be those phones against the new Moto X/G while the iPhone and Galaxy grab the lion share of attention. MicroKia should attack on all fronts. Too slow, too defensive, too safe...as usual

I hear what you're saying but I don't think a phone with a high-end camera like the 1020 will be out any time soon. I'd say the earliest would be at least until next summer 2015. If then.

I would definitely upgrade my Lumia 1020 if the option was available in the next 3-6 months.  The "41MP" camera is excellent but needs to have a faster processor to get the camera loaded and auto-focus teed up.  I miss moments because of the time it takes to load the Nokia Camera app, which has lead me to running with the Microsoft Camera app instead.  On top of that, the 720p screen is nice but doesn't give me a great idea of how my photos actually turned out since the resolution of those photos are so great.  Also, those high-res photos are 36MP, not 41, since the extra 5 is from a secondary photo stored for sharing purposes. Honestly, the extra MPs are for the zoom feature.  If Microsoft can develop greater digital zoom capabilities or build a small optical zoom into the camera that would be best.  The 20MP sensors on the 930 & Icon are more than plenty for any camera.  Their primary focus should be speeding up the camera, removing the camera hump (or minimizing it), and adding a higher-res screen in a new 1020 follow-up - or just use some of that tech going forward in the flagship phones but not make a true 1020 successor.  Using zoom accessories would be the best way to use your phone as your point-n-shoot camera without having to commit to high resolution cameras and bulges out of the phone.

One it better be on every cellphone company and two it got to have the new cool stuff. Also it needs more than just 3-4 different colors

shutupandtakemymoney.jpg

It's got to be much better and bigger than camera on Nokia Lumia 1020 and Nokia 808 Pure View!!!!!!

I'm happy this is finally coming! Hope it improves a lot! :D

Yes I would be interested. It's what I'm waiting for before I consider upgrading.

Absolutely! Love my 1020. Would love to see the next model with quad core and SD card expansion. Why is there not a 1030 being announced?

Wonderful news. And not at all surprising since Microsoft mobile markets its phone over its imaging prowess.

If they could reduce that bezel/bump by about half it would be a great phone. As a 1020 owner I'm tired of the huge bump and top heavy feel.

That's what I wanna hear!

Well, Microsoft and Canon teamed up to share camera patents so my expectations is that they will bring powerful imaging to their future phones.

I sure hope they release it soon. I'm still gonna buy the 930, since I don't need 41MP and 20MP is plenty for my cropping needs. But it is imperative that 1020 successor rises!

YES PLEASE!!!!!! I have been patiently waiting for a successor to my Lumia 1020. I hope they do not take to much longer though.

If Windows is still alive then - yes!

Yep, waiting on the 1020 replacement, love my 1020 at the moment, hoping the replacement comes with a 5" or greater screen size! Just need to add a little more speed on the camera..

I just need these minimum improvements from the successor: 41MP or more expandable storage longer battery life like that of 1520 or even greater  

Next to my Nikon D7100 my Lumia 1020 is still the best thing. Its beautiful and fast enough for me i can wait another year Still think its an awesome phone.  

Just signed up to be notified when the Note Edge is available on AT&T would much rather stay with Windows but I just started to think I don't want to limp along with a 1020 that is missing out on the updates waiting for Microsoft to get it's act together. I was told at AT&T that the only way for it to be feasible for me to join the Next Plan was to lower my unlimited data plan, this doesn't seem feasible with all the texts and other stuff I look up daily

55MP + lens from Canon
Let's guess? ;-) Max

Definitely. 920 contract up in November. I'll probably hold out for this. 930 not enough to move me.

I'd be interested in that phone this Christmas! Lucky I have a 1520 and the 1020 itself. How they're so off with phone releases I don't know.

If its got the 1520's specs or higher with a fantastic camera i know what im gonna be buying then !

Saving my upgrade/Next Program/will sell my current devices for this!

Well no more money from me 'till the next flagship phone for the 1020.  MS is way too focusing on low/mid phones, and forgot that many are waiting for highend one.

I suspect, and I'm probably right, that there won't be another major Lumia flagship in 2014. We won't see one until Threshold, next year, probably Summer 2015 or so.

Shut up and take my money Microsoft I have a 1020 and ill take w/e you call the new one

Absolutely! That will be the wife's and my new phone! If it comes out this year, it will be cheaper when we can upgrade in the spring!!!!

Yes take my money right now

Sprint better get this phone! Posted via Windows Phone Central App

My contract ends in april 2015, so i am definetely interested in the follower of the lumia 1020. Hopefully it will be released until then. Some of you already mentioned some negative points about the 1020 but it seems that one you've forgotten. I have a 920 but in youtube i discovered that the 1020 also makes videos with too high saturation and contrast. The photos of my 920 are great and the 1020's photos are for sure better but i really can't stand many videos for the disturbing effects i see. My old desire s shot videos that i could enjoy although the quality was significantly worse but at least i didn't had all these strong and flickering colours. Change that weak point and offer a sd card slot - then the 1030 is mine if i am lucky enough in regard to the end of my current contract.

Not even one of the vid I've taken were oversaturated.. Still you can use Lumia vid editor to tone it down if you're really that picky

I'm excited about the 830 but much rather had this 1030 (even though I love my 1020) I'd love a 5" screen & faster shot to shot time. Hm, wait a little longer or get the 830?

Lumia 1020 is the best phone I've ever had and it's also largely replaced my Canon Ixus 80i. Of course I'm keen on seeing how the 1030 could improve upon this. It seems Denim will improve the lag times with the camera anyway, so I'm happy to patiently wait and watch.

Key words "computational photography". I don't expect the next 1020 to be zoom focused. I think it is more likely a sleek phone with an array camera.

A 1030 with sd80x processor, 2gb ram, internal 16 GB expandable upto 128 GB, 5" screen, 50MP pureview or much better camera,10MP front facing camera. And the necessary hardware to get windows 9 without any lag. And surround sound. Price ₹50k or less! That's enough!! For me.

Was Sad when the McClaren was cancelled.  I was looking at that one to be the upgrade for the 1020.  I have since upgraded to the 1520 but still use my 1020 as my main camera.

Lets hope this is coming soon. I understand that the L1020 was not a big seller, but it almost single handedly created the brand of Lumia as a top of the line camera phone, and the technology has been pushed down to low and mid range phones now, giving them an attractive seeking point. Meanwhile the best camera pics of the world I'd about to go end of life with no replacement in sight. It creates the impression that Microsoft has given up and will cede this to the iPhone. Unfortunately this year had been so tumultuous for Nokia that I great they haven't been able to get this model done at the same time that the push for better low and mid range phones has been on. Lets hear more about this!

The new 1030!

This is all i ask of Microsoft for this phone and future phones    -  launch globally at least a month after announcement, unlocked versions can be sold at Microsoft Store also , give users different models with size options 32GB,64GB & even 128 GB if possible if you're not including a micro-sd with the this flag ship

Yeah, sure, considering they try to cut unnecessary expenses and bring a "cheap" phone for us to buy

I really hope that Microsoft will bring a successor to the 1020. Today I'm using the 920, because the 1020 wasn't announced back then. But when the 1020 was announced I realm wanted to have the 1020 instead of the 920, so if there will be a 1030 I don't have to think about what will be my new phone

What makes you think it will be about the megapixels? There are other camera technologies on the horizon.

Thank you Baby Jesus!  

Definitely! Fast startup, fast processing with imaging chip, continuous shot, bigger storage, bigger battery! If you have above then shut up and take my money!

This is all what I need to upgrade my 920. Make it quick Microsoft.

Joe Belfiore also hinted on twitter yesterday with a super zoom shot

I'd be into it if it was offered on a +1520 form factor!!

Lytro

I suddenly remembered the patent they bought from Canon.

I'd definitely be interested.  When the time comes to get a new phone I'll be disappointed if there isn't a worthy successor to the 1020.  

This is actually something i've been waiting for :D

An updated 1020 is what I've been waiting on. Really really want a 1030.

YES, PLEASE TAKE MY MONEY ALREADY!!!

Can't wait. I mean I have a 1020 so I can't wait much longer till next year. If till December there is no leak about the 1030, I'll buy 1520.
Seriously why wait?

+1020

Such news almost makes me religious...

Love my Lumia 1020

Definitely interested... Have my credit card ready to go!! ;)

this phone will be my new WP. whenever it comes out, ill stick with my ATIV S since it's release from day 1.

What kind of a question is that? Please please please let me buy a Windowsphone with as good of hardware or better than the next iPhone

Can't wait to have a successor for my Lumia 1020 with enhanced camera hardware. Really need SD card slot, and better battery in it :) So my wife will get my Lumia 1020 and will enjoy the jump from her Lumia 800.

I know they have plans to release another xbox after the XB1. It doesn't mean it will arrive anytime soon. And off course they are going to say this. They can't say "oh no way" even if that will be the de-facto answer.

Love my 1020, but i would love 930 with 1020's Camera..

Yes. I will stay with my 1020 until there is a replacement phone with superior camera capabilities. Bring it on!!!!

Yes, i need a new high-end phone by the end of the year. The Icon will already be 6 months old by then.

I have a feeling that 1030 will be there first one to support the 3D touch

They have a habit of launcing new phones alongside new firmware, and isn't 8.1 supposed to get three updates this year? Lumia Denim/8.1 Update 1 launches with 73x and 830. So maybe we'll see a high-end Lumia with 8.1 Update 2 

This is the only WP I've been waiting for; I'm still using a Lumia 920 and don't plan to upgrade until there's a 1030 to upgrade to. I've been looking forward to the 1030 ever since the terrrible day I found out the 1020 would have a hideous PenTile screen. I really want that camera, but I can't stand the way PenTile looks.

Another thing is stop removing Nokia off of everthing....

Absolubtly yes! i have not change my current 1020 for the new devices just because of those amazing 41 megapixel!
 

Give me a 5.5" phone with Lumia 1020 imaging capabiltities and I'm sold, even though I only bought my 1520 4 months ago.

If they build it I will come.

That's the one I want!

This is great news!!  Bring them on.  I could never use another phone without a camera equal to or better then the 1020 again.  It must also have wireless charging as well.  I can't imagine searchingfor and plugging a charger into my phone ever again either.  Windows and Nokia have so spolied me...

Me too. I really don't need super quick camera when taking photos. My Lumia 930 is far enough to shots of a scene.

they better come out with a new high end phone pretty soon cause im getting tired of my 925 and I want a high end one

I think we'll see it November. With WP 8 GDR2 we saw the Lumia 925 launch
With WP 8 GDR3 we saw the Lumia 1520/Icon launch
With WP 8.1 we saw the 530/630/635/930 launch
With WP 8.1 Update 1 we saw the 730/735/830 launch (and HTC One)
WP 8.1 Update 2 is expected Oct/Nov, if history follows there is going to be some device launching in Nov... WP 8.1 Update 2 is also the first to support the Snapdragon 805 SoC which is the first in the Snapdragon line to officially support camera sensors up to 55MP. Even the 800/801 only officially support 21MP. The Image stack was rewritten to allow the 1020 and it's S4 Plus SoC to use a 41MP camera but anyone who's used it would know it's not exactly fast at processing images. It only makes sense to launch a 1020 refresh (likely 1030) with a SoC that can properly handle a large camera sensor. I don't have any proof but I'd still bet money on Nov.

around tax time and I'll getting that, but I'm getting that for certain, even if I have to jump carriers

Would I be interested? Why, off course!

Yeah I'd be interested but I don't plan to stop using my 1020 for wrote a few years. Although the phone not being a Nokia makes me not really want to buy it.

Lumia 1030 in Q4

Well this is exciting

I believe the response from the guy was general regarding camera technology, i still have doubts of a 1020 successor.

YES!

Question. In my lifetime? The high end phones with the 3D interface were cancelled with nary a word from MS. No more high end phones?  Only mid-level and low-level refreshes? Sure MS can't market their way out of a paper bag and their response, but you would think that some sort of response might be in order. Apple is very good about releasing phones in cadence with their end of contract terms. MS not so much.  Think of all the 920 users - high end phone of the time - are now off contract.  Do they upgrade to the now 9month old 1520 - or maybe the older 1020. Sure the 1520 still has some leggs, provided you get the International version RM-937 version, but we want the new hottness. My 920 can barely keep a charge for 4 hours. My camera died the other day and I need a new phone.

this little bit of "news" has brought a tear to my eye. Yes! Yes, bring on the 1020 successor (wiping tear from eye, voice filled with hope and barley overcoming an urge to cry out in happines.) could this be the light at the end of the tunnel or mearly a mirage tormenting us with a glimpse of our inner most desires?

love my 1020

Nokia Lumia 1030 should been same or better with the below specs such as:  41MP Rear Camera Carl Zeiss Optics (OIS), Xenon Flash, Dual Led Video Light, 5MP Front Camera Carl Zeiss Optics (OIS),  3GB DDR3 RAM, 64bit QuadCore Processor, 4.5 inch Display with 1600x900 Resolution, 64GB Internal Memory with SD upgrade to 128GB, 3.400mAh Battery, Solar and Wireless Charging Back Cover, 2x Big High Quality Stereo Speakers, FM Transmiter, Micro HDMI, USB On-The-Go, WaterProof, That phone i am waiting to buy.

Absolutely, I'm extremely happy with my current 1020, hoping to see its successor very soon

Please. I will only upgrade my lumia 1020 with a new device that has a similar camera. No way I downgrade the camera Posted via Windows Phone Central App

I NEED! However, push the technology further, get crazy with it, throw in like 60 megapixels, bigger lenses, maybe even some Lytro type tech (even though they have software emulating the refocusing ability), better OIS. They raised the bar very high with the 1020, the next iteration needs to be out of this world.

Absolutely!  I really love my 1020. Something Microsoft should also consider.  I have a physical disability and I only have use of one hand.  I tried other phones and I have a tremendous amount of difficulty using the cameras on those phones.  I can use the 1020 pretty easily with the camera grip. I know that the vast majority of the population has use of both hands.  Nevertheless I think most people would find it convenient to be able to snap a picture one-handed.  For example, if they were holding a drink or even their child in one arm, how would someone take a picture?

Reading through the comments, I have to agree with another point. MS isn't getting the necessary credit that's due for the phone releases. We all want the next big thing from Windowsphone, but MS isn't just sitting around twiddling their thumbs. Of all the major manufacturer's for phones, MS has on of the biggest lineups, if not the biggest. Apple produces the iPhone and a cheaper "C" version. Two models, that's it. Samsung (arguably the Android leader) produces about 3 phones. The Galaxy S series, mini series and the Note. Three phones total. MS having bought Nokia is creating a lineup of phones covering all price points, singlehandedly. Lets see, they have the Lumia 5xx, 6xx, 7xx, 8xx, 9xx, 10xx AND 15xx, models of phones. Not to mention a few basic models for emerging markets. That's 7 models. Seven. Seis. For one company to produce this many models or at least now own/control.a company that did, is a major accomplishment. Give credit where credit is due. Lets have some patience.

This is the phone I will wait for!

Nokia World on October!

This is what Microsoft needs. I loved my 1020 but it lacked in the CPU department. If they make a flagship with the equivalent camera and expandable storage, I'll be all over it.

1020 needs some more horsepower for quicker pics. Apart from that its perfect.

Still waiting for WB Bracketing, Manual Kelvin WB, and manual focus in video
http://lumiabetaapps.uservoice.com/

Take me to a 1030, this time build in wireless charging!

Good to hear! I won't give up my 1020 until there is something better, camera-wise.

IPhone camera will never have anything in Lumia. Honestly every iPhone pic I took is not even an equal to every pic I took with a Lumia

Lumia's front and back cameras are above the average, absolutely nothing wrong to where you would trade in for an iPhone. IPhone=quick snap, fast processing doesn't mean nice pic all the time...just saying

Yes, I want the next phone of Lumia 1020

Put that lense on the 930 and I'm SOLD. Even though I just got a 930

Yes Im Interested, just put a Snapdragon 8xx to speed up the process.

Would I be interested?  It's all I've been waiting for!

Once you use the Lumia 1020 camera, you can't go back, just does'nt feel right haha

Thank you baby Jebus! This is the news I have been waiting for! I was getting scared that ill be stuck on my 1020 forever. Wasn't going to upgrade to a lesser camera ever.

ok, I'll save up for this!

First of all fix the infinity blur problem with 1020 or the "yellow jpeg" and then you can speak about future plans.idiots

Let's keep that in mind for now first. With McLaren already dropped, I'm not pinning high hopes with their so called plans anymore.

Hell yes! Bring on the optics MS! :)

Oh yeah!!! There is still a lot of improvement above the 1020!

Whatever happened to that Microsoft & Canon deal to share technology?

Patent deals are always non-specific as the details can be very technical.

How to remove the scratches on my black 1020?

hell yeah! am intrested! already using 1020 n am lovin it! and also theres no point in buying low end int terms of camera mobile phone after using 1020!

I would definitely be interested in a 1020 successor.

I've been guilty of being an MS apologist but I'm honestly over waiting for a real flagship. What MS have to realize is that peeps in the west have $$$ and WILL spend rather than wait!!!

Of course I will get one.  Need a high-end phone with high-end processor, more battery life, high-end Camera, sd card slot etc., etc.

As a owner of the Lumia 1020 I will definitely buy it!

1020 is the best phone I have ever had. I cannot see ever downgrading the camera, so there will need to be a path in the future.

Love my 1020 and would definitely go for a new version.

Me and my wife have 1020s for our main phone/cameras for our round-the-world trip and it's been great. Bring out a 1030 with an improved screen (not bigger than 5"), quad core, and micro-SD slot and we'll line up for it. Sold...

Have a better hardware to support the great camera pls

1030 with WP9, 1080 screen, and a super camera grip with interchangeable lenses!

Yes yes yes, YES! I love the picture uality of my 1020. I take pictures every day and can't get enough of the quality and easy of the camera and every single option/function it has. The smoothness of 8.1 now, I don't know if I will ever go back to Android. Not a fan of Apple, work supplied, not a fan.

Battery, battery, battery!

Prosim naj bo 1030 5,5 amoled in 3 ram spomina in 52 mil fotoaparat!

Shooting in 4K without the micro SD is disappointing

For me, not really. I have the 1020 but I'm not a big photographer. I had no problem with the 920's 8.7mp camera. New Nokias today seem to have 20mp, which is more than most flagships on other OS's. I really don't care much for MP count as long as it doesn't add a camera hump, or slow camera speed

   Hell YEAH! You put that 41 mp monster in a slightly slimmer frame with a 1080p screen, 3GB ram, snapdragon 805 processor, 32 GB internal with sd card and 8.1 with the denim update and we have a new flagship.

Yes !! I have always had a Nokia with the better camera since the N95..  My 1020 is wonderful, but I still have a soft spot for the "first one" .    So YES I am looking for ward to the next upgrade !   I really hope for a memory card slot, most of the time I have no access to the cloud, and a memory card slot is easier than carrying a cord and usb drive for back ups.   Ran

definately waiting for that one.