Nokia 'Monarch' could turn out to be the Lumia 635 for T-Mobile

Why don't you just give me $400+ to buy me one! Ok kick rocks then!

Wait, what are you bitching about then?  If T-Mobile offered a high end WP it would certainly be $400+.

Same thing you're crying about, yeah but T-Mobile will let me jump to it without putting anything down and I can pay monthly. Plus my T-Mobile here in GA is good, I rarely have any drop calls, I have service (LTE) all the time just about.. So what's your point.

Why won't you pay upfront?

We're not all rich. That's the point of upgrade plans.

Get a 925. Good price at moment and does everything. I did the calcs and it was cheaper here in Australia to buy a new 925 and keep my current plan than it is to upgrade to an emaciated overpriced plan with a new device. Even using a credit card it is cheaper. Assuming int. 925 works on your network.

last I checked you are not exactly saving money when you get a phone with contract.  On ATT the gimped version of the 1520 will set you back $25/mo for 20mo, which turns out to be $600.  T-Mo is good, but they are still going to charge a similar ammount. Meanwhile on Amazon you can get the normal non-nerfed version of the 1520 with NFC and 32GB of memory for just under $500.  Slap that thing on a credit card at an outragious APR of 20% and pay it off over the course of a year.  You end up paying ~$60 in interest with a grand total of $560 for a nice large non-nerfed phone.  Plus, because you are buying it direct from Nokia it helps them out more (no carrier middle man). Only negative is that there would be no LTE, which is a big deal for some people, but most of us have wifi everywhere and local maps on the phone, so it is not typically a big deal. That said, if you really want it, then stop crying and save up for it.

LMFAO well said

So, why not tell T-Mobile to put up like AT&T has. It's up to them really, they just don't see it financially beneficial. I'm sure you and all the other T-Mobilers will keep whining. A budget service gives you budget devices. Pretty obvious, especially for an OS in third place.

We only get budget Windows Phones but the best of the best when it comes to Android and iPhone. Trust me I will constantly make my voice heard for all the people who don't want another non flash, no FFC, low storage, non 720/1080p display phone. And no we don't want another 925 debacle with 16gb and no SD slot! I will make sure T-Mobile understands this and I believe they will start to deliver the goods.

Maybe im out of the loop but I'm pretty sure the 938 was proven to be bogus purposely mislabeled by a vendor. Welp looks like I will be leaving Tmo in august unless they actually get an updated 1520 with WP 8.1.  Sick and tired of them negelecting Windows Phone.

ATT can give it to you! T-Mobile's Service must be good in your area or you were just looking to save money, because I can pretty much tell you that their service sucks pretty much across the whole state of Texas and I will never go to them no matter what they're offering unless it's completely free

Same thing you're crying about, yeah but T-Mobile will let me jump to it without putting anything down and I can pay monthly. Plus my T-Mobile here in GA is good, I rarely have any drop calls, I have service (LTE) all the time just about.. So what's your point..

I beg to differ. In Dallas-Fort Worth, the 4rh largest metro area in the country, I get 4G LTE all day everyday. This gpes for Austin, San Antonio too. I also get good signal in other areas as well.

I will never go to Texas no matter what they're offering unless it's completely free.

I think its become obvious that T-Mobil wants to treat WP as a budget line. That being said its still a win for Microsoft/Nokia, we get people using the OS, using core MS services (oneDrive, Outlook, office etc.), buying apps (which in turn entices developers to make WP apps). Unfortunately that sucks for WP fans using T-Mobil, but its good for WP as a whole.

dont be dramatic. ATT paid for an exclusive on the 920, so TMo didnt get it right away. When exclusivity ended TMo ended up getting the 925. The 1020 is not a big seller (though it is a cool device), so they did not bother carrying it. The 1520 is still exclusive, but that should be ending in another few months and I half expect VZW and TMo to pick up a varient. The 930/Icon is a VZW exclusive, but after exclusivity is over I am sure that ATT and TMo will pick it (or a variant) up. Potentially the best thing about Nokia being bought out by MS is that they will have some real money to play with, which may mean the end of these silly exclusivity deals.

Same here, its BS that T-Mobile (the only truly unlimited) takes forever bringing premium WP and then getting the one with the least GB. I want a 5" or higher, I love my 925 but I constantly have to erase stuff.

This isn't premium. 8GB of onboard storage is the least of the problems with this phone since it can use an SD card.

That's exactly why I didn't get the 925. It was truly almost perfect.

I bet the 930 comes to T-Mobile down the road... Posted via the WPC App for Android!

I hope so

Indeed. The Lumia 925 will keep me happy with its still very admirable specs and high ppi. However, a next generation windows phone would be great for Tmobile too. Ah well, developer preview coming in a few days to Lumia 925 on Tmobile makes me a happy camper nonetheless.

I think you need the Lumia 930! High end phone! 5inch, 32gb built in but no memory slot, 802.11 AC, 20mp Pureview! Definitely Full HD, Snapdragon 800 great for games like modern combat and Halo, wonderful colours to choose and hell yeah built by NOKIA! xD

Where is the Rum-o-meter????

I was wondering the same thing...

No, it sounds lame.

Need the 930. Sick of trying to get mms working on all the unlocked devices and u don't get amber alerts etc.

Yes the 930. We need it. 

We want the 930!

You'll get a 925 upgrade and you'll like it.

I already have the 925 but i want the 930

Then get on Verizon or order the international when it comes. Otherwise, it's exclusive to Verizon in the US.

I dont want verizon or the icon. I want the 930 on tmobile

Want in one hand and crap in the other, see which gets filled fitlrst.

Same here

High five

Me to

'Monarch' not a fit codename for 635.

Yeah, must be a very small country monarch :)

Monaco has a royal family...and it's basically a town

Aaaah Monaco The prize for being more than just rich....

Except that the ruler of Monaco is usually referred to as a Prince rather than a Monarch.

I was thinking Monarch butterfly. Haha! I think that's more fitting for this phone.

Monarch is not a title, it's a position. A prince IS a monarch if he is the ruler.

I always said it was called Monarch because T-Mobile customers are going to get royally screwed.

Ding!

Lol

Could be a fit name. Maybe the marketing campaign will be: 635, the Mercury Monarch of phones!

Looking like T-MO US may not be getting a high end to replace the L925

Probably later around the time the 925 came out

Didn't the 925 come out around June

I think it was July, but yeah sometime in summer. Wait and see, I guess. Though if this is really cheap it might be worth trying out, I suppose.

July 17, 2013. Not that I'm keeping track or anything.

I think it was July 17th. Not far off, but still allows more time for the theory.

They might get the yet to be revealed 935, lol.

If this is true, T-Mobile will have disappointed us once again.

We need the 930

Sadly. Fortunately I feel the L925 still holds its own against the next generation of smart phones. Runs as smooth and quick as it did the day I bought it.

+925. I can't really say any recent models have that much advantage over the 925, certainly none that seem to warrant shelling out significant cash for.

I just don't want a gigantic phone. My 925 is the perfect size with the 4.5 inch screen. The 1520 is way too big for my taste and the 930 is just ugly to me compared to the 925. And again, too big. Just give me a 925 with an upgraded processor.  Pleassssssssse Nokia!

The 16gig memory is what makes it not worth while

That can be true.

That's why I bought the 1520 (rm-938) from newegg! T-Mobile doesn't get Flagships. They just don't. I couldn't tell though with this 1520 SCREAMING on their network. 40 down 15 up. Screw carriers and they're bloatware, ridiculous firmware update wait times and their lack of support. Pay extra and buy your own phone!

I was wondering how well the 1520 does in T-Mobile. Do you get 3G, 4G or LTE?

The RM-938, or sometimes referred to as Lumia 1520.3, includes all US bands so it works absolutely perfect on T-Mobile and AT&T. That model of the phone was produced for Latin America and is unlocked, but has no issues with US carriers. There is an incredible thread in the forums about it. The thread actually convinced me to buy one yesterday. The one I purchased was from newegg.

I have Lumia 1520 unlocked from AT&T and that I am using on T-Mobile in Dallas where we have refactored LTE bands and I get same speeds. I am at mercy of AT&T though for updates. Else LTE works very well.

Since even AT&T now offers discounts on their plans if you bring your own device, wouldn't it be nice if Microsoft would start selling unlocked, unbranded phones in the US that could receive updates without carrier interference or workarounds like the developer preview? It's crazy that I can buy an unlocked iPhone from Apple, Nexus and Google Play edition phones from Google, along with the unlocked Moto G and X phones, but I can't get a "Signature" (i.e. like the PCs they sell) Windows Phone.

Maybe that's why Nokia will be removed from future handset after the deal is completed.

Does the Lumia 1020 they also sell on NewEgg work just like the 1520 they sell? It says it had US LTE bands, but says it only works on 2G for T-Mobile as it says on the 1520 listings, but according to you it doesn't.

Being that I bought the unlocked one with all of T-Mobiles bands it works as if I bought the phone from mobile themselves!!

I've been waiting to see the Latin America 1520 for sale in the US, didn't know Newegg had it. Very tempting - but now with buttonless WP 8.1 phones coming out, I don't know... Argh.

True it was murphy's law that did bite me. 1520.3 showed up a week after I bought mine from Att. Sob*

  I have the ATT version of the Nokia Lumia 1520 on T-Mobile here in the Phoenix area and it works like a champ. I have 4G and LTE No issue whatsoever...

I'd love to do this again. I've done it the 920 and ATIV S from Rogers. I'm using the ATIV S now. I just really need Tmo's WiFi app.

Even when I had the 925 the WiFi Calling sucked...people could hardly hear me and I could hardly hear them. Lead me to believe that WiFi calling is overrated. Therefore I bought the 1520.3 (Model# RM938) from NewEgg.com and never regretted it. I have 2G, 3G, H, H+ & 4G LTE access on T-Mobile Network.
WINNING!

Hmm I'm gonna research this. I could've sworn I read that phone was missing Tmo's LTE bands

The NewEgg.com website is wrong in its listing of bands that work on T-Mobile.
So maybe check-out the 1520.3 on NegriElectronics.com since they have the correct listing.

Hey if he's happy that's all that matters. I found a link that says it doesn't have all the LTE bands.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/32GB-Nokia-Lumia-1520-now-available-at-Ex...

You do realize there are several 1520 Models out in the wild?
Models RM937, RM940 & RM938. The RM938 aka the Nokia Lumia 1520.3 has all the T-Mobile Bands including 4G LTE.

T-Mo gets flagships from every other producer except Nokia.  S5, iPhone, etc. But not for WP.

To be fair, it took a loooong time before T-mobile got the iPhone.

I also bought the RM-938 Lumia 1520.3 from Newegg! Its a great phone, and the only way to get a high end phone on T-mobile. Its a little pricey but well worth it! Works perfectly on T-mobile. Just do a search for "1520.3" on the WPC forums to read more.

This is very good news. I'm gonna check out Newegg!

Being a Mexican, I never thought I'd see the day people from the US imported high end electronics from Latin America :P

Orale soypan!!

The Newegg version says only 16GB of storage. For $30 more at Negri Electronics you can get a 1520.3 version with 32 GB with the same US LTE frequencies.

The specs on the Newegg site incorrect and don't represent the actual size device. It's 32gb as it should be - all the threads and reviews confirm this.

Cool. Might use my tax refund on this... So tempting!

Thanks for the clarification. I'm trying to decided between this and the 930. I need to go to the MIcrosoft store to hold the 1520. I'm still a bit unsure it it's too bigor not.

What time will wp8.1 will be released on 14th? Morning or evening?? (IST)

Nobody knows...*SLAP!*

That joke is so s... *shoots you in face with gun!*

Besides my jokes seem faster

Ah, but the real question is will your jokes run on my Lum*SLAP!*

Most likely in the evening...

Because this is absolutely relevant to this article...isn't it ;)

But most of us are excited right. Wp8.1 is imp till the release

It's just a way to rekindle the fire doused by the not-so-great reveal of the "un-monarch" 635.

Don't talk like that. You aren't Daniel. Only Daniel talks like that.

Most likely nearing midnight.

Delayed for a week :D

Source?

Link below; :D :D :D :D

9 pm

Pakka?

Yes bhai, GDR 3 Preview was also released around this time only ;)

I'm already running it, aren't you? Seems faster too...

No one knows.  However, MS historically turns on Windows Phone updates at 10am Pacific time.  That's when I'd start cheking...  :)

I'll start checking the moment I wake up on Monday.

Monday can't come soon enough. Need WP 8.1 on my 1020.

+1020

+920

+720

+620

+720

+625

+620

Since nobody above did it i will put in my +1520.

No love for +820?

Or +520?

+925

+920 & +1020.

+930...oh, wait not got it yet.....damn

Hooray for early adopters! Eagerly awaiting your problem reports.

+521

+920

+920

Still there is martini and rock which evleaks confirmed as lumia 530.

windows 8.1 + cortana.. can't wait till monday? what if I die on sunday midnight? :o no!!!!!!!!!!!

Later you will say the same thing to w8.2

let me survive for 8.1 first.

Take your phone with u update it in heaven or hell.

Hahahahaha!

Hahaha lmao

i don't think god will permit that. :(

Well you could go haunt google, people will be traumatized there then android will fall out of the top 3 and windows phone will rise to the top !!!! Muwhahahahahahahahahahahaha 

Lol

i will haunt windows people instead so that in future they will not repeat the same things. !! MUWHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Lol smh!

Check if WiFi connection is there otherwise strive to live anyhow till monday

Im ready to ditch AT&T for T-Mobile. I'm just waiting for a flagship Nokia for T-Mobile like the 925 to switch.

Don't hold your breath. =/

+925

Whose breathe should he hold then?

I may and take my 920 over there. But I rather get a new high end one if they ever get one

As a European I can't get it... Just buy the L930 / Icon for ~600 USD and then get a contract for about ~ 20-30 USD / month. Thats how we do it here... a lot of benefits: You can buy / sell a phone whenever you  want, you can change the provider whenever you want (some contracts here can be cancelled every month...). Whydo americans buy everything on credit  (subsidized phone by the contract)? ~.~

the thing is, in the US, all the carriers use completely different LTE bands. those bands are also completely different from international carriers. so if you want LTE, you have to buy phones from that carrier. it sucks :\

That's not 100% true for all cases; for example, the unlocked 1520.3, aka the RM-938, is an international phone and works perfectly for T-Mo and AT&T.  Get it off contract and get a cheap plan through T-Mo and you're set!

might as well just stick with the L925, doesn't look like Tmobile will be getting a better windows phone for a whil. Besides, the L925 is just as beautiful and fast as the day I got it. It really is the perfect size too.

Lol don't come to T-Mobile for a high)end WP. Your best bet is unlocking your device and bring it over. My unlocked 920 works flawlessly except I can only send/receive MMS when I'm on 4G/E which proves to be quite a task since I get LTE 98% of the time now. Besides the MMS and not being able to enable WiFi tethering, its almost as if I bought the phone through T-Mobile.

I think phones like the 520/1 and 635 are more important to windows phone to increase marketshare than fringe expensive devices like the 1520 ever could. Plus its likely to be the cheapest LTE "budget" phone in the market, with the worlds fastest virtual keyboard, notifications, and Cortana. This phone, like I said in past comments about the 520/1, could be the most important windows phone yet.

I agree but Tmobile needs a High End W8Phone too. I jumped my 925 to a Note 3 because I wanted a High End Big Screen phone. The 635 doesn't persuade me to leave my note 3. A 935, 1525 or ATIV SE I'd have jumped on immediately. Posted via the WPC App for Android!

The 635 is rolling out first. The 930 is following close behind. I think they were smarter issuing a 521 sequel first as they likely had more of those customers. Best wishes on scoring the 930 too when it gets its release.

I just wish the 635 had something the 521 doesn't. Front facing camera, flash or more memory, for example. It doesn't.

That's exactly how I am feeling right now. I was actually looking to get myself a Note 3 because T-Mobile cannot get a freakin flagship phone - and when I say flagship, I mean that it is their flagship and not any carrier will have the same phone *cough*AT&T*cougfh. That's what really pissed me off. AT&T could get T-Mobile flagship phones, but T-Mobile cannot get AT&T flagship phone.
 

But how many people really want a phone missing such commonplace features like FFCs and flash and more than a tiny bit of storage? More importantly how many people don't already have a phone more capable than this? But the numbers show as with the 520, some people can enjoy the starter phones with the low price.

Moto G, no lte is likely motorolas best selling phone this year, even with the wood backs on the Moto maker (drool). Samsung has similar but lte pricing typically starts around $300, (in Canada). Now offer consumers a sub $200 (hoping) LTE version. Tmobile, ATT,Verizon get more subs on their faster lines, hell Rogers, TELUS, and Fido too. There's a bigger market in the lower end. More phones to buy for kids, relatives etc. You have better. Great. Wait your turn. Mine I'm waiting for a 1020 sequel. But I'll be likely buying 5-8 of these 635 when they launch for nephews, nieces, etc. 930 looks lacking without glance for me.

I said this about 2 weeks ago and got Blasted because I got it off WMPoweruser. LOL.. Everyone said WMPoweruser stuff was bogus. I guess not :)
Don't get me wrong I prefer WPCentral but I like them too.

And the funny thing is, nobody will tell you sorry lol

Haha, they don't have to. We knew I was right all along.

Sorry. Even a blind hen finds a corn sometimes. ;)

Nope nope nope. Need a high end phone.

NO. Omfg evleaks please be wrong about this. This is BULL I have NOT used my JUMP upgrade waiting for a damn High End Phone. I'm not gonna throw $400+ at a unlocked phone when I'm still paying EIP balances on my current phone. I want a JUMP UPGRADE to a higher end phone Tmobile. Listen to your customers. /endrant

Same here!

My feelings exactly. So basically if you're a Windows Phone die-hard on T-Mobile, it's pointless to sign up for JUMP...like I did.

This is why I "jumped" and bought the 925 for $200 at Newegg. It sucks to be a WP user at TMO. Need I remind everyone of the 810 that TMO orphaned? I would not recommend getting JUMP for WP.

I have 1020 love it, nobody else around here has one though, i wonder too do low end devices promote the ecosystem better than these superphones, can't wait to have 8.1 on this badboy!!

Bring on the 1830

OPERATION CWAL!

Dang...I was hoping Monarch would mean Flagship...like a L1525....or L1025....not a L635...

They didn't look up the definition of monarch.lol The 635 is far from it.

You can easily remove carrier apps but I agree with you on the phone part 100%.

What about ugly carrier logos?

Monarch-one superior to all others of the same kind. I really hope they didn't waste such a great codename on such an underwhelming device. I m really going to make my voice heard to T-Mobile this year when it comes to picking better Lumia devices. I mean it's fine if you wanna do the budget/entry phone thing but at least give the people who've been around awhile a truly good reason to upgrade and not some 16gb, non SD slot almost flagship like the 925.(my old HTC Titan had the same amount of storage). We need more 920s, 1520s, and 930s of the world on our carrier.

+925

Just buy the 1520 unlocked and use it on T-Mobile. Works perfectly! The rm-938 version.

You are my friend.lol Cause that's exactly what I'm going to do. It's clearly the best available Lumia(size my take adjusting to). Camera is really excellent, new chipsets and power, addition of SD slot(missing in 920, 928, 930, 925, 1020) and has Glance. The omission of Qi charging is a non factor for me. And the size will be great when gaming and watching media.

What a let down! A lot of people are going to be disappointed :-( The word "monarch" is such a misnomer for the 635! But then again, if the 635 turns out to be an unmitigated hit, then it will indeed be the 'monarch" of WP8.1. I hope, it is in this sense that the 635 will earn the moniker "monarch".

Monarch is also a low cost British airline...just sayin' :P

This shouldn't surprise anyone, T-Mobile has always been an android shop, then they got the iphone and nothing else matters to them. If you're not prepared to import a better phone att/AIO may be your best bet for a flagship WP device.

You must be talking about sprint lol

Nobody talks about Sprint here

Lol

Yeah LOL

One of the many reasons I moved to AIO :)

Please turn over or throw out that broken record already.

T-Mobile continues to deliver the bad experiences, especially for WP fans. That broken record is something THEY need to fix.

Sucks to tmo...

I was going to switch to windows phone but is still lacks printer support, chrome and other google apps, plus candy crush. I don't understand the 635, is it replacement for 520? If it is it should be price accordingly, however the 620 had front camera and I think flash on back which the 635 lacks. Nokia needs to be able to beet motorola g, since they will make lte version of it this year. Well I am probably going to get project ara for my next phone, so I never have to buy a new phone I just upgrade modules, I really wish Microsoft would make a modular phone, maybe they could even use googpe's hardware since google said anyone can sell it, but if you want to be on their store you have to follow their rules.

I was going to switch to windows phone but is still lacks printer support, chrome and other google apps, plus candy crush. I don't understand the 635, is it replacement for 520? If it is it should be price accordingly, however the 620 had front camera and I think flash on back which the 635 lacks. Nokia needs to be able to beet motorola g, since they will make lte version of it this year. Well I am probably going to get project ara for my next phone, so I never have to buy a new phone I just upgrade modules, I really wish Microsoft would make a modular phone, maybe they could even use googpe's hardware since google said anyone can sell it, but if you want to be on their store you have to follow their rules.

Their is printer support and Candy Crush for Windows Phones so what are you talking about!?

I can print to my Epson printer with print hand, but candy crush?

Their isn't candy crush and probably 3/4 of the games he or she plays on wp. One of the bug reasons I won't go back to wp. Also the lack of notification light and lack of customization. Posted via the WPC App for Android!

U can try hexix from microsoft studios or frozen free fall. We dont need candy crush anymore. The lack of Google apps u may feel dor which goofle is to be blamed as they are afraid of microsoft. But u can for microsoft services which are also equally good.

Check out "PrintHand" for Windows Phone http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=bf7b7201-d6dc-46de-8e85-aa6234045fca

If you are primarily a user of Google products and want to remain so, don't get a Windows Phone.

I'm glad I'm not with t-mobile. They're getting crappy wp8 devices. Where's the Lumia 935?

Makes no sense to me, just get the 925.

1520 Spec'd device for T-Mobile would be great with or without 6in display

You need stop wishing and hoping. Just switch carriers.

Switching carriers is not an option

Then get the One M8, s5, or iPhone.

No thank you I actually enjoy Windows OS very much hasx everything i use iphone is too small for me always has been Ive never owned one for more than week. Android has come along way and the HTC is really nice but I have no reason to change my mobile OS I just wished TMo woud step their game up

Well, that's disappointing, I thought it could be a new phone :-(

Im not going to buy that shit.... We need 930 in all carriers like Samsung does with the Galaxy

Verizon exclusive...

I guess i will stick with my Rogers unlocked 920 and save some more to get another flagship phone if Rogers gets it, the 810 was probably my last phone from T-Mobile

Me too. The way T-Mobile treated 810 owners is unreal. 

.....was planning on switching to Tmobile. But if they don't get something like the 930 then boo on them.

Zero reason to upgrade from my Lumia 521 to this, except for load times for apps possibly. Very, very disappointing.

Not sure what's going on at Nokia but this sucks for T-Mobile customers. Yeah we aren't getting the 930 on AT&T but we have the 1520 and 1020.

Seriously, being on AT&T means you can get any international phones out there. If you want a 930, buy it.

Sure, sounds like a splendid idea if you only want your data speeds to go up to HSPA+. Who needs LTE anyway?

Damn T Mobile. I hope this isn't true.

Switching carriers is not an option I use about 30gig a month. I low month is 10gigs my bill is $80

I wonder if t-mobile will get the icon or another high end device....i currently have the Lumia 925.....but if they don't then my next phone might have to go to iPhone 6.....that's of course if t mobile gets it or if Verizon or at&t makes a better plan

Another phone T-Mobile will undoubtedly lose interest in and EOL while leaving their customers holding the bag with lack of updates and support. Don't think so? Just ask any Lumia 810 owner. Buy unlocked handsets and add the service you want; not what the telecoms want to give you. I will never buy a proprietary mobile phone again. 

They have supported both Lumia 925 and 521 with updates.

... So far

That's great; I don't have a 925 or a 521 - I have an 810 and that's what concerns me.

The one reason I won't switch to Tmobile. VZW just supports its vendors of phones better. :) And that Ativ SE is pretty damn sexy, too.

No it's not

Huge letdown.

Why can't T-Mobile get a 1020 or 1520?! It's Killin me! Posted via the WPC App for Android!

I am at a wedding this weekend. There are guests here on T-Mobile with 1 bar 2G outside and no signal inside, looks like the GS4 isn't even getting the 2G outside. This kind of experience is a large reason I left T-Mobile after 7 years. The Lumia 1020 I have on AIO? 5 bars of LTE everywhere here.

Who cares? Good for you.

God for me :) and everyone else that managed to get away from T-Mobile.

Even better, at least two of the wedding guests I talked to went out and switched the next day.  Nothing like real world examples to wake people up. :)

It's okay. We're waiting for Nokia Goldfinger anyways

Another fail from T-Mobile. This phone won't sell and be dropped from support just like the 810.

No!! I want the 930

Tmobile needs the 930

Ugh. Nice phone, nice processor... gutless on RAM though. No go.

It could be worse TMO users........ it could be worse

Yeah we could be like Sprint. Ouch.

Man, I feel bad for 925 & 521 owners. Guess they'll be joining us 810 and 710 in the bin of forgotten customers soon.

Well, looks like I'll be trading my 521 in for an iPhone. If the 925 had more storage or even a memory card slot, I'd consider it but without a high end Windows phone to switch to, don't have many options... Anyone know which high end Windows phones are easier to get fully working on t-mobile? LTE, SMS/MMS, etc? I'm thinking about just buying an unlocked Windows phone on eBay or something. I'd much prefer that to an iPhone but am tired of low end WP.

Definitely try the 920. It's the ideal phone. You don't even need a Rogers version because the AT&T one should work just as well.

Search for Lumia 1520.3 on Newegg. You'll get an unlocked device originally from South America that has both AT&T and T-Mobile LTE bands, 32GB storage, and built in wireless charging. Note that Newegg has incorrect specs listed when they say you only get 16GB and 3G. See the WPCentral forum "Finally!! Lumia 1520 RM-938 for sale!! BUT..." starting at about page 5 for more details on people's experiences.

I'm sorry, but there's nothing "Monarch" about the 635. Ridiculous if this is it. With that being said, I'm sticking with my 925 regardless.

Another crappy phone for T-Mobile.. T-Mobile should keep all lower budget phones on Metro PCS. The mid to upper range phones should be on T-Mobile. I get it when it comes to T-Mobile.. They don't support Windows phone, they just carry cheap Windows phone for the hell of it. Yet they have nooooo problem carrying the the Galaxy5 or new iPhones. Great. I'm sending a break up letter to T-Mobile. I had already warned their customer service reps of how displeased I am about T-Mobile lack of real Windows Phone support. I'm done.

bye<..>

Ok we know Martini and Monarch. Where is the Goldfinger????? Has it been cancelled?

Le sigh. High-end On T Mobile or bust.

Calling the 635 a "Monarch" is pathetic. What kingdom could it possibly rule? It's an upper low-end device meant for new smartphone users and those with tight budgets. T-Mobile offers high-end Apple and Android devices, so there's no excuse for denying the carrier high-end Windows Phones.  And I'm tired of posts telling T-Mobile customers to switch to AT&T or Verizon in order to obtain more sophisticated windows phones. Neither company offers affordable international plans compared to T-Mobile. Half the year someone in my family plan is in Europe, and T-Mobile is the absolute best choice in my situation. Legitimate plan usage choices aside, people shouldn't have to switch carriers in order to have a high-end windows phone. It's ludricous. Again, other manufacturers have their devices accross the carriers. Is Nokia is so fragile it must partner so closely with AT&T?  Finally, telling people to just go buy an AT&T phone and take it to T-Mobile isn't as black and white as you think. First, you lose the wi-fi calling feature if the phone isn't natively supported at T-Mobile. The T-Mobile haters out there know many of us do benefit from wi-fi calling in the suburbs. Second, obtaining future OS updates will be more difficult as well. T-Mobile customers shouldn't have to accept second-class service, especially since no other OS is forcing the same treatment. If Microsoft is content with the low-end market globally and AT&T and Verizon as its real partners in the US, then it's time to reevaluate whether the rest of us should even bother with Windows Phone. After all, it's just a phone. They all make calls, collect messages, and take pictures. I loved Blackberry, then I really enjoyed Windows Phone. But enough is enough. Microsoft and T-Mobile really need to figure this out sooner than later.

The hell with this phone. I want the 930, it would make the upgrade from my 925 worth it. One can only dream.....

I have been with T-Mobile for 10 years now, and if they don't get a flagship level device, I'm switching finally to Verizon. I have the L810. They obviously don't want a Windows Phone that can compete against flagship Android devices so screw them.

I have been with T-Mobile for 10 years now, and if they don't get a flagship level device, I'm switching finally to Verizon. I have the L810. They obviously don't want a Windows Phone that can compete against flagship Android devices so screw them.

I have Nokia 810 as well, and I like it. But I too am waiting for T-Mobil to get something like the Nokia 1520. They are like Sprint, they just can't break the blue and reds hold on flagship Windows Phones.

He is Jewish?

Well then I guess I need to do research to find out what the downsides would be if I purchase an unlocked phone. I don't want to leave T-Mo but I also would like a 5" high end WP. So if my only choice is stick with my 925 or buy an unlocked I might have to buy an unlocked providing the downsides if any are minimal. I don't travel out of the country, heck I don't even ever really leave Oregon so I'll wait to be sure the Monarch is indeed another low end device.

I f*cking called it.  I knew it!  hahaha... Oh man.  Once again... let's not put too much stock in a name.   Monarch =/= flagship

How could they not put a FFC on this phone? Even if it's a low-end. Selfies are part of everyday life now, especially for young people. Hello?

As a UK based Windows Phone lover and having o2 (the highest WP stockist out of the decent amount of stockists) as my service provider......i feel bad for the USA's WP fans, all i ever read is "does it work on blah" "world phone" "subsidised" and "variant" i suggest you all head over to a facility that lets voices be heard and start shouting about what you want, coming here to tell us all your woes won't work, go forth and announce how many people actually love Nokia and WP!!! :D

There is nothing Monarch about the 635. Would I buy it for me?? Hell NO! I would buy it for my son to replace his 521 on T-mob. I bought the Nokia L925 last year when it came out. I was the first one to pick one up at my local T-Mob store. I still love this 925 phone. However I did get bit with the Nokia 1520 bug and I bought an ATT version and was able to get unlock code and now the 1520 & 925 share duty on my T-Mob account. I think T-Mob should take a look at its so called uncarrier image and expand the menu of High End Phones for those folks that have stepped out of the IOs and Android Matrix..and demand our own high device for Windows Phone Lovers...Apple fans have a "low end" in the 5c and a "high end" in the 5S. Android now has the latest this weeks flavor in the GS 5...Window phone lovers need the same...Monarch means top echelon, top dog, top in Specs and Features...fingers crossed for better toys...but in the mean time my 1520 & 925 will hold me over...